Sherlock: A Scandal in Belgravia (John & Irene)

[@lucyhartwell2134]

John: "Sherlock doesn't follow me everywhere!" Sherlock: Is in fact following John

[@sorrowandsufferin924]

Has the energy of: A: B would never do that stupid thing. Cut. B is doing the stupid thing.

[@bigbirdmusic8199]

@@sorrowandsufferin924 well yeah generally jokes are structured

[@wristdisabledwriter2893]

“I’m not hungry let’s have dinner “ second best flirt “not dead let’s have dine” best lol

[@martinhodges572]

Not dead let's dine

[@marukchozt6744]

I wonder if people have ever tried it

[@zuzanasambergerova2896]

@@marukchozt6744 My BF used to do it

[@ftldesignbureau7891]

@@marukchozt6744 one day im going too

[@maggiewang2888]

For some reason, I really like every scene where Irene and John interact. They are two contrasting characters witty and charming each in their own way, and their subtle rivalry at times are just precious.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

''for some reason'' - proceeds to immediately explain the reason...

[@Celtopia]

I have to agree.....

[@yukohori9786]

な

[@youtubefan8459]

I had forgotten how angrily John said, "You've texted him a lot!"

[@Lana-221B]

omg yes!!!

[@youngkyle5516]

" Sherlock doesn't follow me anyway. " Pffff... Yeah right..

[@jelly4074]

Everywhere*

[@aether413]

"I'm not gay" "Well I am" Great way to come out to your friends XD accuse them of being gay and then reveal that you are

[@gmb9862]

One year later but I'm here to tell you that she was said means she's just a dumb as john and not actually gay. But thats just a fun fact

[@aurell3259]

@@gmb9862 she literally has sex with women on the show but ok i guess

[@gmb9862]

@@aurell3259 i dont know why i said that weird but what i ment to say was, that's her way of asserting dominance between them. She's obviously bi and is attracted to women ya, but she was in love with sherlock

[@emagneticfield]

Personally I feel Irene should give up on Sherlock and flirt with Molly. That would make a much more stable couple. Molly is smart, loves people but shy and Irene is sexy, smart and mischievous. They could bring out the best in each other. That both of them were involved with Jim Moriarty it’s possible that both characters are already closet friends. I am surprised that the female characters of BBC Sherlock are not developed more. I believe that was part of the point of The Abominable Bride episode.

[@aurell3259]

@@emagneticfieldtotally agree with u 100% i love this idea so much !!

[@littlepanda6796]

John became so angry, because Irene kind of broke Sherlocks heart, and won't tell him that she is alive, thats so sweet

[@TheFFilipp]

Or maybe he’s just jealous

[@littlepanda6796]

Yeah that too of course

[@user-lr1rt3sz9u]

@@TheFFilipp both

[@enikovarga2533]

John's love (be it intellectual, platonic or romantic) towards Sherlock is so pure and powerful. He, despite his love not being requited, he wants Sherlock to be happy even if it's with Irene. He literally incourages The Woman to text the man he loves.

[@ciaranbrk]

@@TheFFilipp na that’s anger he is watching his friend in mourning that could have been avoided with a text message not jealousy.

[@emmanuelgutierrez8725]

The acting in this scene is superb.

[@zahrablythe3376]

Yes, the way they both utter the dialogues is just👌

[@riverangelmk]

1. Great casting. This whole series just gold. 2. John would have a million questions in that first moment. But what did he say? "Tell him you're alive." I need a best friend like that. This will always be one of the best scenes in any movie or tv show.

[@xaonrider92]

For me, the scene when John says that he's not gay and Irene says that she is, but "look at us both", it's saying that both John and Irene DO love/are attracted to Sherlock despite their respective sexual orientations. Because Love isn't necessarily synonymous with Sexual Attraction. IMO, there IS some form of attraction between Sherlock and Irene, and there IS love between Sherlock and John, but it is not necessarily a sexual attraction/love. It could be romantic, could be intellectual, but perhaps not sexual.

[@SilverGallowglass]

​@Snoi Med It is true that for a lot of people sexuality and love are linked but not always for all people. You have found that to be true in your life, but that isn't always the case. Asexuals can find romantic love and platonic love. Aromatics can have platonic love and sexual love. Someone who is both aro and ace can still have lifelong platonic companionship. We usually expect our romantic and sexual love to agree though because that is seen as the norm. Which can cause some to be confused about how they love someone when it doesn't agree because it might feel the same. All forms of love are able to be just as powerful as the others and so when you love someone intensely you might not think to question how you love them, you just know you do. You might assume that because it is intense that it has to be romantic and sexual because that's what it was the last time you felt this intensely for someone. It is all subjective and confusing because everyone loves differently and every type of love is different, so no one but yourself can really know how feeling love works for you (and even we have trouble knowing ourselves) but that is part of the journey of living. The thing is that sometimes our attractions are not static. There is a fluidity to attraction that means that sometimes you experience something unique that might fall out of line with your expectations for how you are attracted, which is partly what I think is happening in this scene. She has never loved a man and John has never loved a man, at least not how they love Sherlock (as to how they love him, that is up to them) but it is different to the love they have felt in the past and there is an understanding there.

[@AmarEcd1233]

Well if its not sexual and its platonically (friends) why tf are lonely weird fucks trying so hard to make them gay

[@esrakurechy]

I think john not gay just friend with sherlock and he admire sherlock

[@peckgardner]

@@AmarEcd1233 they are not trying to make them gay. They are reading the subtext and the lot of references moftiss put there. It is there for a reason u know

[@in_vino_veritas7938]

I always thought different types of love were obvious, still do. Of course John loves Sherlock, he's his best friend. That doesn't mean gay. I do like how they make fun of the assumption in the show. Wish it was still on Netflix!

[@actual.lizard7804]

“I’m not actually gay.” “Well I am. Look at us both.” Irene’s pointing out the fact that even though John is “not gay” and she is, they’re still both in love with Sherlock Holmes. I can’t quite figure out the last part, though. Any ideas? “I don’t think so...do you?”

[@UnlessIWin]

She just meant she didn't think they should follow him

[@dhorn4005]

When I first saw this scene, I totally got differently from now. To begin with, I was obsessed with the idea of Sherlock an Adler being in this sick idea of love; while I also was sligthly pissed of by the recurring joke of everybody confusing Jon and Sherlock as a couple... but now the message is far deeper. Both Jon and Irene have a clear sexual identity... both love women. But still, both have found a particular person in the world from whom they are absolutelly unable of not being atracted to. There is no need this to be a sexual atraction; simply they found themselves bound to follow Sherlock. They are amazed for him. Althoug he denies any sexual relation (as none of them is interested in it) Jon still finds himself forced to live with the man and follow him in his adventures... ... Irene, however; whose line of work is obiously more sexual; she finds herself filtring with a man; as any schoolirl would. And even if she is rejected, ignored (and there is no sexual aspect in their relation either) she continues to orbitate toward him; even if she it is against her own nature. Irene sees this; how she and Watson are actually atracted tho the very same man, not nowing either of them what are they actualy looking or expecting from a relation with that man. And of course, the inhabillity of controling thoose feelings amazes and wonders a master of controling the desires and the feelings... brilliant

[@actual.lizard7804]

Dhorn Beautifully written my friend🙌

[@pyrrhusnikos242]

As far as the final question, I think she was trying to be slightly humorous to hide her disappointment...in other words, "I think that's a no from him, don't you?"

[@sourpotatoo]

He would outlive god to have a last word. Does that make me special? I don't know maybe. (Text) and then that conversation Sherlock's phone pings I don't think so, do you? (So she probably went back to the discussion about if she's special to Sherlock or not since Sherlock DIDN'T "outlive god" or something to talk to Irene as John had put it. Irene was just at hands reach for Sherlock but he didn't try to talk even though John thought Sherlock wanted to.)

[@3kbschannel288]

John "He doesn't follow me everywhere" Me "or does he?"

[@transtonerlars]

3:10 is the most satisfying thing I've heard in the entire series tbh

[@RexKarrs]

1:45 has got to come close.

[@atadbitahistory9660]

"He's writing sad music, doesn't eat, barely talks only to correct the television, I'd say he was heartbroken, but he's Sherlock, he does all that anyway".

[@viviantsang9763]

"We're not a couple!" "Yes, you are." :)))))))))

[@NachanOca]

Irene: Are you jealous? John: ... we're not a couple. He never said "no". He just said they aren't a couple. Like "I can't be jealous cause he is not my boyfriend"

[@sanlos3041]

NAshe Benoca thats pretty damn true

[@finland2050]

True

[@syednoorerasul]

Isn't that obvious?

[@kaicreech7336]

You can be jealous of people you aren't in love with.

[@user-lr1rt3sz9u]

@@kaicreech7336 you definitely can when you're not certain about your feelings but do feel somehow attracted to someone as well as love towards them.

[@maruramal]

Irene: you jealous? John: we're not a couple. Irene: yes, you are. John: **gay silence**

[@esrakurechy]

Aren’t they just friend?

[@navyfox6]

@@esrakurechy A really good friend x) John kill the taxi driver to save Sherlock at the first episode ( so when they just met ) He also try to save him from Moriarty in the pool scene even if i have to die BC of the bombs in the parka Damn i wish a friend like that sometimes lmao

[@dr.khushbooagarwal786]

Poor John

[@PimpMacSlickBac]

I remember finding this show all those years ago on Netflix. I love the old Sherlock films and books, but I turned it off immediately as it opened on a war flashback for John. I didn't think it was a show I'd be into. Sat back down to give it a second chance months later, easily a favorite show. But when it came to this moment, and the text notification sounded... I recall the feeling and emotion brought from that silly little sound. What a fantastic show, thank you Mark Gatiss.

[@ianwinters8935]

The fact that Dr. Watson was a doctor injured while fighting for the British army in Afghanistan was I suspect a critical moment of "ah ha!" for the updated retelling. Also, I liked how they replaced telegrams with texts. Some things just slotted too well.

[@actuallyace184]

This is so sad. Johns face when he heard the text alert from Sherlock’s phone and how he rushed to go follow Sherlock. I feel so bad for both of them

[@Favorite010499450]

John doesn't angry at Irene because he's in love with Sherlock. He angry because his almighty, greatest of all time best friend become sad just because of her. He thinks she's not deserve it. But now when she do, how dare she plays with his almighty best friend.

[@theVolunteer24]

John isn’t jealous, he upset that his best friend is being actively hurt and manipulated by the one person he’s had more than platonic feeling for.

[@TheFFilipp]

That’s... very heteronormative

[@agoolliletizia1110]

oh please, john is very VERY jealous. He literally counts Sherlock's messages! Irene wants to make John jealous!

[@Adirondaque]

@@TheFFilipp What the actual f? Get out of here with your bs.

[@madhukardhamale3220]

Agreed, finally someone intellectual.

[@pisces2569]

No he’s jealous but he cares more about Sherlock’s feelings than his jealousy

[@sell8789]

The people here debate whether or not they are gay. Moffitis always stated that there would be no Johnlock, which is all joke and such. But I do not understand the scope of this' joke ', where whole scenes like this are produced, not with subtexts, but openly (' are you jealous? ',' We are not a couple ',' yes, you are ',' look at us two ') just for the sake of' play '? Oh really? I think Sherlock has some attraction to Irene, and in other episodes, like 'The Abominable Bride' and 'The Final Problem', proves this, but I believe it's something that's just a fascination for both. Irene is a lesbian and Sherlock declared 'girlfriends is not her area' and that is exactly why they were confused by this fascination that arose. I also believe that if they stop their silly games and relate to each other, they will both discover that they can be just friends (But I would not be upset if they did, they would become a couple.I even like Irene) With John it's totally different. Sherlock risked his career, health, happiness and his life by his doctor. I understand the discomfort with the gay thing, but everyone who actually watched the show, can not deny that all seasons have revolved around John Watson, since when Sherlock laid eyes on him in the lab on Bart, until Sherlock rescued him from the pit where Eurus drowned Redbeard (especially now that it was discovered that who was behind Moriarty was Eurus) What I can say is: John is the true love of Sherlock, and Irene the only woman Sherlock loved.

[@TheHsnwazir]

Its confirmed that he had sex with irene after he saved her. He ain't gay lol

[@sell8789]

in fact nothing has been confirmed, but the evidence of the canon indicates that it happened. I personally believe it did. But as for his argument that Sherlock is not gay because he had sex with Irene sounds a little weak. I mean, it's not news that a person has sex, gets married and even has children with someone of the opposite sex and later 'discovers' that he is gay. It happens more often than we think. Celebrities are there to prove it. Besides, do not forget that Irene is admittedly gay. So you mean she's not a lesbian because she had sex with Sherlock?

[@christinabeyer9298]

selama boblue Yes, you are right. It's Irenes job as a domina to sleep for money with men too, it plays no role that she is actually a lesbian woman. She could also have had sex with Sherlock after he saved her life, who knows, why not. It would have been possible. But I don't really believe it. He was more attracted to her intelligence and cleverness than in a physical way was not means that he hadn't true feelings for her. He was honestly affected by her "death.' For this reason he composed this sad music. I think Irene was a mirror to Sherlock. He had found himself in her.

[@christinabeyer9298]

@@TheHsnwazir In fact is nothing confirmed, because the creators said nothing like this, only that both never met again after Sherlock saved Irene's life. And Sherlock Holmes is a man who isn't interested to women. Should be actually well-known.

[@finehomemadewine]

Only one thing confuses me, in the book he had enormous respect for her and in this series he seems to have none.

[@like_miaow]

Lol but their phones are seriously slow in transmitting text messages

[@arifamzar1]

Maybe sherlock muted his phone,then he played the sound from youtube or something just to be dramatic

[@utsavsrivastava2843]

@@arifamzar1 whut🤣🤣

[@mrsfahrenheit]

@@arifamzar1 hahaha amazing😂😂

[@bitsnthings]

I've never seen anyone comment on what john says before that famous "i'm not actually gay" line, but he actually says: "Who the hell knows about sherlock holmes, but, for the record, if anyone out there still cares, i'm not actually gay." I SPAT. So it could mean two things: either he thinks Sherlock is definitely Not Straight, or he thinks that Sherlock believes he's gay. Both are glorious.

[@chandie5298]

@bitsnthings he's saying that Sherlock is such a complex person that the ONLY person who actually knows about Sherlock is Sherlock himself. I think you're intentionally reading into it what you wish were the case.

[@kitria2854]

I honestly don't know whether Sherlock is sadder at the fact that John ISN'T gay or that Irene IS.

[@allthrees3]

😂😂😂

[@user-lr1rt3sz9u]

Not being gay doen't mean not liking people of the same gender. You could literally be pansexual, bisexual, demisexual or whatever honestly and still like the same sex while not being labeled as gay.

[@brookew.6218]

@@user-lr1rt3sz9u You need to be given an award. I mean that

[@enikovarga2533]

they are both obsessed with him soooo.

[@dr.khushbooagarwal786]

@@user-lr1rt3sz9u bi bi bi

[@louisemacallister6561]

Without question, one of my favourite scenes in the entire series.

[@elimkwok938]

Tldr: Watson :"I ain't gay" Adler: "Bitch , I gay and you are too"

[@lilypeterson4496]

I love how the first thing John says when he sees her isn’t how or why, it’s “Tell him you’re alive.”

[@kitria2854]

John: I'm not gay Irene: Well, I am Me in my room, alone: I AM TOO

[@nicolebroissin9123]

Me reading this comment: I AM HELLA GAY TOO

[@madness_237]

@@nicolebroissin9123 me too 👉👈

[@Ali-xs2ij]

Cinematography and visuals in this series were great

[@khalisus]

The camerawork and the background music at the beginning fit so well

[@boringlemon1594]

John is so in love with Sherlock

[@florellaestella]

"...Sherlock don't follows me everywhere." meh, i don't know...😂

[@skygamingoneway]

I like how after Irene states she's gay and implies their both in love with sherlock, John doesn't try to deny it again. in fact he acts as if he got caught.

[@weirdnoise11]

Ok, I still think this is the best episode in the show

[@Anesh10]

I personally want to teach John, the word 'bisexual'

[@eonsilver88]

I like that the first thing he say is tell him because he knew how heart broken his best friend is

[@alistair3010]

‘We’re not a couple’ ‘Yes you are’ 2:53

[@seangrand3885]

3:33 my favourite part of Irene's theme

[@ladycapuccino3628]

This scene is one of the strongest evidence that John is in love with Sherlock. So much. And desperately. Irene is great at exposing people, because the series presents she to us as a person who knows what the others WANT. John wants Sherlock. And that is reciprocal.

[@valdornas]

kkkkkkk bullshit... watch the interviews with the creators and Ben... you didn't get the episode LOL

[@abhinayamarykoshy1264]

valéria Dornas Wait, what is it? What is the inference in this scene and episode?

[@ladycapuccino3628]

valéria Dornas Apparently you are unaware of the fact that the viewers' interpretation of the series is as valid as that of the creators. Irene IS AN ASSUMIDALLY LESBIAN WOMAN. And to me she was not cured of her homosexuality by Sherlock's big gold dick. Even because, this is impossible. What exists between them is a mutual attraction, by each other's intellect, that made the most domineering party (in this case, Irene) cease in submission for the sake of awe. It's purely emotional. And it's easy to remember Sherlock's words: "Girlfriends? No, not really my area." "I'm not interested in naked women." #peace

[@friskkey169]

John-How many times have I told this,IM NOT GAY!!

[@ladycapuccino3628]

Frisk Key We get this, Dude. But how many times i have told this: BISEXUAL PEOPLE DOES EXIST.

[@ladycapuccino3628]

JOHN WATSON IS IN LOVE WITH SHERLOCK HOLMES AND THIS SCENE IS A PURE PROOF OF THIS. Keep it going.

[@palpytine]

Stuff and nonsense. The actors have said he's not gay, the creators, writers, producers and directors have said he's not gay. _What more do you want?_ Sherlock is a Victorian-era creation and, if anything, he brings much of that period's attitude towards keeping one's brain free of sexual thoughts in the name of "purity" - the original novels even imply that he flat-shares with a man *specifically* to remove himself from the temptation of women. This is one of the best scenes in one of the best episodes across all four series... The writing, pacing, editing, blocking, lighting, cinematography, camera angles, composition, etc, etc are all just about as good as it gets, and all you care about is inventing this alleged subtext. Can folk please just get over the need to project their own fantasies onto this scene already! Paul McGuigan, Fabian Wagner and Charlie Phillips absolutely outdid themselves here, and these lame puerile fanfic obsessions only serve to undermine that achievement. By all means, if this fantasy offers you comfort and helps you to sleep at night then please do continue to hold it close to your heart, but please do also keep it to just yourself and stop SHOUTING it across KZbin, because it's utterly unsubstantiated rubbish.

[@chocoholic299]

What the fuck

[@ducker6421]

Kevin Wright “I’m not actually gay.” “Well I am. Look at us both.” Meaning despite them both liking women, they still fell in love with Sherlock. It ain’t a fantasy!

[@christinabeyer9298]

@@palpytine "Girlfriend? No, not really my area." Sherlock, Asip "A boyfriend? Which is fine, by the way?" John. "I know it's fine." Sherlock. In my opinion is Sherlock more attracted to men than to woman, I think. When he is not gay, then may be asexual, what not means, that he can not fall in love with someone in a platonic way. But in no case he is straight.

[@sell8789]

@@palpytine friend, you came here on you tube to write your opinion that the opinion of others is rubbish. So you can get out of the comfort of your bed and shout your opinion, but shouldn't others do the same? Cut the hypocrisy, okay ?? Don't like it, give your opinion, but don't be a complete idiot.

[@a_sleepy_cat6680]

John: I'm not gay Irene: I am

[@semtek777]

this can be resumed to "Hey you know who's gay? Us."

[@maxmel1778]

I love her theme

[@moviestv5988]

“He will outlive the god trying to have the last word” He actually did in Doctor strange Dormamu vs strange

[@noorulhudasheikha6568]

Irene sees right through you John... Right through you and your denial 😉

[@Kamraan86]

This is one hell of scene ,Power performance by all three specially the one who didn't said a word. You know who

[@Zlda-uq3pj]

2:10 John is jealous, right? 😂

[@muffemod]

😂😂😂 HE MAD

[@Glo.07]

Thsi mans is more angry that when my brother ate a burrito I made for myself😭 oh I want me a burrito rn anyway he is hella mad and jelly😂 it's cute

[@TeaCub]

Ah, the good old days of Series 1 and 2 when John actually cared about Sherlock's feelings.

[@djjohnson8657]

Why should John care more for Sherlock's feelings than Sherlock cares for John's feelings? I think that the end of season 2 was a good reason for John to withdraw from Sherlock. Sherlock forced John to watch him jump from a building and see his bloody "body". So John had to live 2 years thinking he had failed Sherlock when he couldn't talk him out of suicide. Sherlock saw John crying graveside; he heard him too. But he couldn't trust John to not give his being alive away. But he could trust Sherlock's own parents to fake caring; he could trust random government workers to never tell; he could trust random street people to never tell (though they would have good reason to - to get off the streets. Tabloids would pay a lot for a story about how Sherlock lives!). I think that John would have gone along with the fake suicide if Sherlock had explained to John that giving the secret away would mean the deaths of Mrs. Hudson and Lestrade. He would have willingly gone to visit Sherlock's "grave" if it mean saving them. Then Sherlock forced John to go through the terror of waiting to die in the underground to make him admit he still admired Sherlock. Then laughed at him for being afraid. If we go back to the 2nd episode of series 2, then what about Sherlock secretly feeding John, a PTSD sufferer, a hallucinogen that caused test subjects to commit suicide years before. Sherlock could have tested the sugar BEFORE, in the same lab where he tortured John. In series 4 they switched roles. Sherlock became the caring one; John became the abuser.

[@Adirondaque]

@@djjohnson8657 So basically, a lovely toxic friendship that feed and enable both. Lovely.

[@smolopossummaxwell9624]

@@djjohnson8657 I kinda have the feeling that sherlock wanted to tell John, but mycroft stopped him.

[@djohnson3274]

@@smolopossummaxwell9624 Did you see something I missed in the episode (2.3 and 3.1)? I can't imagine Sherlock being stopped by Mycroft. He's more likely to do the exact opposite of what Mycroft demands. "sibling revelry" and all.

[@sell8789]

@@djjohnson8657 I absolutely loved your answer. Every now and then I come across people who criticize John for the way he acted in TLD. Can I use your points to reply to them ??

[@nextlifedreams8655]

I never think that that 'gay' talk is about being sexually attracted to Sherlock Holmes. But It's the deep rooted affection between the men. I don't know why people are shipping John and Sherlock. They're best friends and friendship is pure . And ofcourse they care about each other so much. Irene knew this . Who else can't love Sherlock? Even the jealous detectives admire him.

[@yanyan639]

Irene: What do I say? John (screams): WHAT DO YOU NORMALLY SAY?! YOU"VE TEXTED HIM A LOT! Yep, definitely not jealous at all lol

[@ColinIngus1]

John: "I'm not gay" Irene: "T T T T TOUCHY!"

[@tyyger28]

So my opinion.... I think with the actors in this episode...Benedict/Lara we as an audience see sexual attraction. But as Sherlock and Irene, it's not sexual... it's an attraction, but not sexual. He admires her intellect and strength.... With John, Sherlock has never been as close to anyone as he is with John. There is a love there as well, but not sexual. But again with the actors... Benedict/Martin... again the audience sees attraction as in sexual (look at some the fan art that has been created) But again it's love, but not sexual. As someone said in the comments both Irene and John love Sherlock, not strictly sexual love, but someone they cannot help but follow... no matter where he leads them.... LOL!

[@bea3018]

ohhh john youre so jellyyyyyy omg !

[@Mawwiiee]

For those who debate about John Watson being gay (or bisexual) or not, let's all remember the first episode where Sherlock Fucking Holmes the genius detective we all know thought John was interested in him. Remember the line "i'm flattered by your interest...". You know what ? I'm pretty sure if Sherlock Holmes think you're flirting with him, there's a good chance you actually are.

[@hiyasarmah7922]

2:25 john's face...stay away from my men.

[@jimpatrick5918]

This show was so so good! It was like television duck fat after decades of corn oil. More. I need more! But I guess getting Martin and Benedict in the same room together ever again without either having a hissy fit has become impossible. And so it goes….again.

[@weirdnoise11]

It's not about them not being friendly, it's about how poorly Series 3 and 4 were written and received. Tbh they were probably not gonna continue the show after Sherlock's death but it became too popular to end.

[@ianwinters8935]

The fact they put my least favorite trope (jumping in front of a bullet) in Season four killed it in an instant.

[@curious968]

The real deal is that both have become way too popular and way too busy to come together for a BBC series, sadly enough. Think about the number of _franchises_, never mind other films, the two have been in since this thing ended.

[@dejavu-lb1sw]

Sherlock indeed follows Watson everywhere. Lol

[@MrRelim1]

0:28 - Sherlock doesn't follow me everywhere. It's not a bad Chekhov's gun that fires at the end of the scene.

[@alicegoodwill507]

Can somebody explain the, "I don't think so. Do you?" part?

[@yourwallflower1412]

I think it refers to when John said that Sherlock doesn't follow him everywhere

[@KatieCatWalker]

It's because both know Sherlock is pissed.

[@florellaestella]

''I'm not actually gay.'' ''Well, i am.'' 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@AnliaTheGothicGirl]

Sherlock and John are not gay. I'm bisexual myself, but I get only best friend vibes from them. Denying romantic relationships with best friend doesn't mean they're really a couple. So they're love each other as best friends and brothers. Moffat and Gatiss also said they're not a couple. Gatiss once said "We're not against it, but that's not the story we want to tell". And you can see John only dated with women and his love of his life was Mary. And Irene seems she is bi. She loved Sherlock, but also she likes women and Sherlock loved her too. And Sherlock is asexual. Moffat confirmed it. And you can see Sherlock and Molly has feelings for each other during this series, but Sherlock wasn't really into romantic relationships in the first episodes. However, I don't hate Johnlock fanfictions ect. and I don't mind to read them, but I don't ship Johnlock as couple. I ship them as best friends and the soul brothers. John is like the brother Sherlock never had and the brothers and friends can be jelaous for each other too. But anyway imagine if you're best friends with someone, but some people think you're couple, isn't it annoying? I had these kind of experiences too and it was bit hard to tell the others "We're only friends", but all people didn't believe me. Of course Sherlock and John are fictional characters, but you know what I mean. As bi I think if they're really a couple, I'm not against it, but the screenwriters wanted to respect the original Sherlock Holmes books, where Sherlock and John were best friends like in this series too. People can love each other in many ways. ❤️💕😊

[@gunsandkithes6900]

"He Is Mr. Punchline, He Will outlive God to have the Last Word" Charles Augustus Magnussen *left* the chat..........

[@joesr31]

If he can’t have the last word, he will blow their brains out haha

[@kaizoisevil]

Dormammu, I’ve come to bargain.

[@alatarielfelagund7602]

Please can someone tell me the title of the piano music playing at 1:15?

[@veronicaelders4823]

It's Irene's theme. Just Google it. It's the BBC version.

[@alatarielfelagund7602]

@@veronicaelders4823 Thanks

[@gabrielkrows488]

“I’ll come after you if you don’t” “I believe you” Because he’s always next to Sherlock, it’s easy to forget who John is. He was a captain in the British Army, saw combat, has confirmed kills, and has withstood battle conditions far worse than any Sherlock villain has put him through. Not to mention he is a crack shot. All of this in a truly moral, doggedly loyal and *fiercely* determined and unshakable man. Having Dr. John Watson coming after you may be just as scary as having Sherlock coming after you.

[@Somethingdrawto]

And that's the proof that "sherlock doesn't follow me anyway" aja

[@guadalupeescobar1516]

00:25 sherlok doesn't follow me everywhere. 3:18 ☺

[@eclaire_x88x]

"I'll come after you if you dont" 😟 John ❤

[@nqtrading]

John: Sherlock doesn't follow me everywhere. Sherlock: Are you kiddin?

[@misa1999..]

Gay people can detect when other people around them are also gay. Call it a gay instinct.

[@what-mz8oo]

gaydar

[@Starkiller2725]

@@what-mz8oo, this has a "millennium ring" to it and i do hope we are on the same page as to what this means.

[@funnier_in_enochian]

So far I can think of gaydar and bi-fi but I think there's more

[@jeddtam9085]

Sherlock storms away because the ringtone reveals his presence! It's not because he finds out she's alive because he would be able to hear her voice, and it's not because he finds out John loves him because John never says that in any way. I don't see any gay subtext. I just see Sherlock and John and two friends who love each other platonically. They care more each other the way best friends do.

[@VeniVidiVici..]

Jedd Tam I agree with the Platonic love between them. He cares for Sherlock but not in that way. Watson and Sherlock are a couple but as best friends.

[@daliamohammedali5906]

Thank god ,finally someone believes that john and sherlock are just friends who care so much for each other

[@intj1434]

I feel like the people who think John and Holmes are gay for each other have had a very different relationship with their best friends (or maybe they havent?). I love and admire my best friend the way John does Holmes, but just platonically. You can be fascinated by someone without sexual attraction, you can be close to someone without being in love with them that way. I also have a guy friend who I will always see as just a close friend.

[@sell8789]

You don't see any gay subtext because there are none. It's all openly there.

[@Komorebiki]

Do you really believe that Sherlock Holmes, the consulting detective, the mastermind, didn't foretell his phone notification giving away his location? Come on

[@justins8634]

Only thing I don't understand is why it took 30 seconds for that text to reach Sherlock

[@psyolytesaille]

If one is in proximity it can take a bit to register. Especially in a building like that.

[@Wanderer628]

You know what I love? All the people screaming that this confirms Sherlock and Watson are gay and in love and Martin Freeman just came out and confirmed that Watson and Holmes are 100% not gay in the show.

[@ladycapuccino3628]

Do you know what I love? Almost immediately after that statement, Benedict Cumberbatch gave an interview saying he found his comment "pathetic", he said you can't blame the fans for that and other things, and it is the writer's job to deal with the different interpretations of the audience and fans about the relationship between John and Sherlock :)

[@Wanderer628]

What? You either didn't do any research or you're lying through your teeth. Benedict criticised him because Martin said he didn't like the show now that it was popular and he was being pressured to film more seasons. He never said anything about Freemans comments about the relationship between Holmes and Watson. A simple google search showed this. Perhaps you should do some research next time and not make yourself look like an idiot.

[@End15421]

Right ;)

[@christinabeyer9298]

Yes, and girlfriends are not really Sherlocks area. And a man, who is so clearly not interested in women, is of course straight. 😅 And John only said he is not gay. Of, course, that's right. But he had never said he is straight. But the writers, especially Moffat said in the past not always the truth about the relationship between Sherlock and John. You can't not always take serious what they say.

[@bug3954]

And Benedict cumberbatch said Sherlock was asexual, that still means he can love anyone he wants. And just let people have their fun. Why do you have to rain on everyone’s parade? They aren’t hurting anyone.

[@classicrockaddict6793]

I love how the show thinks through all the small details for later episodes. Like how his phone being set to that text tone and him not being able to turn it off gave away that he was listening later because he can’t put it to silent

[@Pelerin985]

Games, they're all playing games... Even at themselves

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

Isn't it what life is? Honestly, before our 6 ft under.

[@mariamihailik5310]

John is definitely jealous lmao

[@Opal_Obsidian]

"If anyone actually still cares, I'm not actually gay." Sorry to break it to you buddy, but Johnlock fans are far too powerful for you and sherlock. And also... we don't care.

[@pjosepha]

But I do

[@Seize-g4v]

For me, Johnlock isn't real (even if they're cute together) Sherlock loves apparently Irene but I think his relationship with John is superior to everything (He’ll probably chose John if he had to keep only one)

[@sketch6041]

Sherlock isn't in love with irene??? lol??? you see how limited their interactions were right. she was just playing the game, and he was impressed with her intellectual ability as well as her looks. in the original books, he couldn't deny the charm of an attractive woman. he found her charming. that doesn't mean he was in love with her AT ALL (as if he'd fall that easily?? they barely interacted dude lol) and he was hardly even infatuated with her. he just knew that she was beautiful and cunning, as unaware of beauty as he usually is. there dynamic is interesting, yes, but irene's interest in sherlock is 100% unrequited.

[@sketch6041]

yeah he cared for her well being, I suppose that is a sort of love, but I think saying he was *in love* was a bit of a stretch.

[@Seize-g4v]

if you read correctly my comment, I said "apparently" because I not agree with the people who say that Sherlock loves her. I agree with you, and I like Sherlock because his priority is his brain and not his love stories. Fall in love isn't for him, he's a sociopath !

[@ladycapuccino3628]

Seize For God's sake, he's NOT a sociopath. It is truly unbelievable that people watch a series made to illustrate the process of humanizing a character that everyone has always considered cold and relentless, and yet, after so many demonstrations of how much Sherlock is an emotional creature that accumulates a lot of feelings (for God's sake, does he make his heart beat by John Watson only in the last episode of S3, how can a sociopath be able to?) and after all that, still think he's the same man who was at the beginning of the series. Sherlock Holmes is kind, gentle, friendly, he loves very much and to many people and no, he is not a sociopath. As for the truthfulness of the Johnlock argument in the canon, it is up to us all to interpret their relationship as we deem most appropriate. In my case, they love each other in a romantic way, yes, a lot.

[@Seize-g4v]

Lady Capuccino ok but for god’s sake, I let you think that Johnlock is real (they don’t love each other in the romantic way but it’s your point of view) so let me think that Sherlock is a sociopath

[@Wink114]

John is SUCH A good FRIEND!!

[@Celtopia]

Thank you.

[@vulpeslagopus1]

What year is that, there’s like a minute delayed on message sent and received. Is that 1G technology?

[@semtek777]

makes me think of the asdf movie that goes "hey you know who's gay? us"

[@kravenv2391]

what does she say at 3:13

[@rainbowdrop2666]

Look at us both

[@kravenv2391]

Rainbow Drop thanks XD I could make it out

[@kravenv2391]

Rainbow Drop it's totally clear now lol

[@jasmineapril300]

Cherrell Boyd Look at us both. Initially saying that they are both attracted to women, but somehow fell in love with Sherlock.

[@ritaneremijastrial7167]

What's the name of the music? It's sooo beautiful!

[@thetraveler2339]

It’s Irene Adlers theme

[@dumbsow9420]

Honestly this is one of them things where I do like to image Sherlock and Watson can be a thing but doesn't have to be gay full sexual attractions for eachother for it to be love. For me don't care what others think, I do think they're attracted to eachother in a more intellectual romantic love but not sexual, that's my stance on it. Do find it a rediculous though and in some cases hilarious with how crazy some people get with this topic. On one hand we got the crazy shippers who think Sherlock and Watson want to have steaming hot sex together every night and attack anyone who thinks different then the other side where people flip their biscuits at people who ship them and think they all think the same way and attack em because of it. Guess that's shipping for ya.

[@Cupidssatan]

This scene shook me😂❤️

[@SnowMenAtWork]

I will keep repeating 2:51 until I die

[@bubblessnuggles3341]

What does she mean when she says "I don't think so, do you?" help

[@camierangel1260]

she and John all know that sound is from Irene's phone which is kept by Sherlock, it mean she don't think that Sherlock following John

[@bubblessnuggles3341]

Phuc Le thank you so much :D

[@ddwow566]

Daniel The Spaniel No. John was going to follow sherlock but she told him not to becuase he needed time alone

[@NgocAnhNguyen-mf8jr]

Anyone know why Irene can demand Mycroft's people (the girl)?

[@jamesthevulture777]

1:46 is the best part

[@elsiehastings3400]

He’s so jelly

[@hemlockvii7027]

What episode is this?

[@LeoNardo-ku2wy]

A scandal in Belgravia

[@gmb9862]

You know, best friends can be quite close and...not gay...you guys know that right? Also Irene and John both aren't gay. She was even losing her breath when she heard his alarm. Its quite common for girls to become visibly nervous when their love interest is spontaneously nearby

[@biancabors4716]

Omg you people....she just said she is gay...just because she likes Sherlock doesn't mean she's bi...Sherlock can just be the exception. I don't actually know if this is correct but it's just how I see the things( I've been through this before myself)

[@gmb9862]

@@biancabors4716 just because she said she was gay doesnt mean she was. She doesnt want to admit to john she loves sherlock she wants to win the fight

[@nobodysalive991]

Irene is lesbian and drawn to Sherlock, but she doesn't love him. John is bi and loves Sherlock and then Mary. Sherlock is gay and in love with John, but is attracted to Irene. I hope this can explain you everything.

[@nobodysalive991]

@@gmb9862 Irene IS lesbian and NOT in love with Sherlock.

[@gmb9862]

Emma Cinti this is just fandom

[@JulesOdd]

9 TF YEARS AGO

[@joesr31]

What does the “I don’t think so do you?” Line mean?

[@mariaoliveira-ox7uu]

Nobody knows

[@katherinedonovan974]

3:20--When did you get here, Sherlock?!

[@akshadk7]

What is the theme at the Beginning???

[@SarcasmReckless]

this scene is my villain origin story

[@gmb9862]

To anyone wondering Irene is bi and said to John she's gay so that sherlock doesnt figure out her password and win her heart

[@teaink1312]

yeah but she follows that up with "look at us both," meaning that she still comes out as bi to john (and implying the same for john)

[@emeden7909]

'how come i can see you when i dont even want too'😅🤣 savage. savage john.