Ships on the Horizon - 6 ft to 1200 ft - Perth Australia

I am located near the base of Princes St in Cottesloe Perth, Australia. Looking West. I climb to 1200 ft twice and at the end turn to show Princes St which is the location I have used many times in previous Sunset videos.

[@CoolHardLogic]

Great footage. Funny flattard excuse: the "our eyes can only see so far" special pleading. Unsurprisingly they still can't explain why these supposedly limited eyes can suddenly see further when higher up, and in a manner that works as a function of height, and with results that are exactly the same as if the Earth were a spheroid ~12,700km across. :-D

[@anthonythomas1735]

CoolHardLogic, Oh my God!! You must mean that our planet is a globe, I knew that the flat Earth crowd was full of the proverbial Brown stuff but this just just slam dunks the cherry on the cake for me. Great footage, well done to the makers of this video!

[@flatyoungearthchristian1675]

Da earth is flat, I can see mountains 200 miles away at ground level, ta da globers (=

[@zombywoof1072]

As our friend Mahrai Ziller has pointed out, there's an interesting quirk to FE perspective. As the drone gains altitude, the camera actually becomes more distant from the ships. If distance alone makes things merge into the horizon bottom first (through some mysterious FE version of perspective and the "vanishing point") the farther away you are the more they would merge, yes? Which means that on a flat earth with flat earth laws of vanishing point perspective, the lookout should be on the deck, not up in the crow's nest. See: The Earth is Flat, Rory Cooper says so! Part II: The Horizon Problem

[@elonesnah]

ground level, lol

[@flatyoungearthchristian1675]

Where's the proof of gravity curvature or the motion of the earth? None. All taken on faith. Globe-faithers are the real tards.

[@herbderbler1585]

It's so awesome that the propellers on your drone move enough air to change the temperature around you, thus altering the atmospheric refractive index enough to make those ships come back over the apparent horizon. That thing must be a beast. Don't stand under it, you'll get blown right out to sea.

[@feathered3167]

i.imgur.com/leymwyW.png

[@herbderbler1585]

The world looks very flat from down here under my bridge.

[@Sableagle]

You realise, in Australia, you're *above* the bridge, don't you?

[@feathered3167]

@@satunnainenkatselija4478 It wasn't the temperature change part that was the trolling, the severity and places that would need to heat up and by how much is the problem, and hopefully I'm not getting r/woosh'd. As for that last sentence there; If I'm not mistaken you forgot to mention the hypotenuse of the quadrilateral as it equatorialized the sound waves.

[@DANGJOS]

Pretty cool to see the horizon move behind the ships

[@JohnMichaelson]

I'm very impressed by the steadiness of the camera, especially at altitudes like that. But, of course we know what we'll hear next from the atmospheric lensing perspective special pleaders. To them the crows nests on old ships were simply there to keep up the pretense that sailors were looking further over a spherical horizon. Who knew all they really needed was a zoom lens, right flat earthers?

[@GeistView]

John Michaelson or why Radars are always on the highest parts of the ship. Why have a mast full of radars and comms antenna's. If the earth was flat then it would not matter. Just like the crows nest.

[@alexquant1335]

Wow! That didn't take long to show the horizon moving further away from view!

[@GeistView]

Alex Quant That pesky horizon.

[@Requiem4aDr3Am]

but but perception and reasons and thangs

[@anthonythomas1735]

The horizon is a slippery little fucker!!

[@thetruthshallsetyoufree3136]

funny how u think the horizon moving further away means ball. it clearly means that the first horizon was not the beginning of the curve

[@Sableagle]

The curve has a beginning now? Oh shit. Here I thought we were living on an oblate spheroid and it turns out to be a 12.7 x 99 Mm rifle round.

[@td8916]

You live in paradise mate. Yet again another great vid, be interesting to see what the flatties say about this. Their usual excuse is 'the reason the ships disappear is due to the distance and limits of the eye, not a curve' but as the drone gets higher the distance between ship and drone becomes larger, so using their theory we should see no ships and less ocean.. lol

[@Wolfie6020]

+TD, that is a good point I didn't even consider. Yes the distance between Drone and Ship does increase as we go higher.

[@jjevans1693]

So does the vanishing point of the human eye. The higher up the further the vanishing point. That's all

[@Cara.314]

fantastic, nice work!

[@Wolfie6020]

Thanks Cara.

[@anthonythomas1735]

The flat Earth argument that we don't feel the Earth moving at 1,000 miles per hour, I always thought was because we are travelling at a constant speed so you would only notice if we were to suddenly speed up or rapidly slow down, plus if you think about it we have been accustomed to the speed all our lives from birth just like we don't feel the atmospheric pressure of 14lbs per square inch all over our bodies.

[@jayarenneilson6049]

shhhh - that's too obvious to be the truth...

[@AtheosAtheos]

Is this a drone ? It would be great if I could copy this video on my channel (with a link to your channel) as example of the earth curvature. Thanks

[@Wolfie6020]

+Atheos Thanks and yes it was done with a small DJI Mavic drone. Please feel free to copy this video to your channel.

[@AtheosAtheos]

Thanks a lot 🙂

[@AtheosAtheos]

Oh... I may chose another one of your videos... let me see, I'll tell you later.

[@anonymousguest9290]

How does this video translate into "flat earth speak" when compared to videos zooming in to show that ships do not vanish under the horizon? What explains the observation in both type of videos? Curvature or perspective or something else? I set the mouse pointer at the horizon at take off and observed it dropping as the drone ascended. The horizon did not hold at eye level(theodolite level).

[@elonesnah]

ships do vanish below the horizon, if not they didnt cross the horizon

[@2010Blissful]

Hi wolfie. Love your logical points for the flatties. The earth is a rotating sphere can be easily seen now (16 July 2018) clearly, like the Sun, we can see Mars at the horizon just after sunset and around midnight it is almost on our head. Thanks for your all videos.

[@ecsolha]

nice video

[@vincentb9827]

Thanks a lot !

[@Wolfie6020]

+Vincent B - great video Vincent. I plan to make one similar soon.

[@boatymcboatface666]

Nice!

[@mohamednabeel3222]

But how do you know they are on the horizon?

[@feathered3167]

0:06 They are at the horizon when viewed from ground level.

[@dragonmcmx]

Go to 1:22, set speed to 2x, use your mouse cursor (or some other reference) and notice how clearly the horizon is dropping below eye level.

[@dragonmcmx]

And no, it's not the drone tilting because of wind or something. If it was that windy, it would be swaying back and forth notably.

[@Kualinar]

Nice. Also, putting a straight edge against my screen, I can discern the curve of the horizon. It's only a couple of pixels, but, it's there.

[@frankdebrouwer-leiden]

Well done! Especially at around 10:00 where the two ships at the right completely disappear behind the horizon. I'll bet that FE-earthers will react with: "but you didn't zoom in. If you had, they would be in full view again". Ignoring off course that all the other boats are in full view when not zoomed in. And off course ignoring that zooming in doesn't change one bit to the image, it just enlarges it. Thumbs up!

[@dallassegno]

so you spend your life watching flat earth videos thinking you're dunking on strangers?

[@frankdebrouwer-leiden]

@@dallassegno And you spend your life commenting on 6-year-old videos. And on top of that, you are a flat earther. I don't know what's worse, I guess the latter.

[@dexterxjh5150]

The Earth and ocean are curved. When viewing from lower altitude, the horizon is nearer. When viewing from higher altitude, the horizon is farther. at 5:45 and 8:50 , at the center there is a big ship used as a reference point, but towards the right there are two ships farther away that have silhouettes that pop up above the horizon. at 6:33, those two ships are now somewhere in the middle of the ocean, and the horizon has moved farther away past those two silhouettes which no longer pop up above the horizon, because we now see more of the ocean curvature farther away. at 9:15, the horizon is moving closer, and is beginning to partially obscure those two ships which are farther away.

[@feathered3167]

Flat Earth logic: Want so see something behind something else; then whip out a pair of your trusty flat earth x-ray binoculars!

[@nebtheweb8885]

Nice! Great way to use a drone.

[@mni_7]

if you try this same experiment but instead of 1200 ft the camera is like 10cm above the ground yould still see the same stuff, objects 200 metres aaway wont be visible, as long as the are 30cm long

[@mrdavester]

Muhammad Nazir that would be too low as the ocean's waves would ruin the results

[@grzegorz16100]

Sure but you also have many videos proving no curvature. How do you explain that?

[@Sableagle]

Identify which video *proves* that there is *no* curvature and explain exactly how ..... or fuck right off, please. Either one's good.

[@FrenchCrow]

Simple. Sometimes the point of the video is not to prove the curvature.

[@keyanmoradi5088]

None of his videos disprove curvature. On the contrary, they confirm it.

[@IbrahimALsaggaf]

الارض مسطحة 👍

[@Wolfie6020]

لا ليس كذلك. الأرض غلوب.

[@luzdaviola]

You sir are a genius! Thanks for putting this nonsense to rest with all your great videos. So many people are wasting energy over this stupid debate about whether the Earth is flat or a globe. So many great minds (Santos Bonacci, Marty Leeds and others) have been sucked into this. It has caused massive disruption to a once pretty unified truth seeking movement. I live in Perth too and am proud that someone in my hometown can really prove the Earth is a globe. I look forward to showing my mate who is a Flat Earther your videos so I can debunk him and watch him fall FLAT on his ass! What do you do for a living? Are you a pilot? I intend to share your videos to Mel Fabregas from Veritas radio in the USA who has had Eric Dubay on his show a couple of times talking about the FE etc. Well done once again mate!!!

[@anthonythomas1735]

On a flat Earth map the Sun and Moon are shown to be above the equator at opposites to each other, so what I want to know is, what force is keeping the Sun and Moon in the sky? Is it some mystical magical force? Or ultra thick transparent fishing line? Or maybe an entirely new form of physics?

[@danielverwey4701]

Too bad they don't feel the need to answer how their claims work

[@stephanhaak50]

Nice video! A perfectly flat out horizon. It's very good that the gimbal keeps the horizon nice centered. This is also the view out of a plane. That's also the reason why 30 years ago the Hr. Ms. Tromp a Dutch navy commando ship anchored of Den Helder that's 60 km North of Amsterdam could regulate the airtraffic above Paris with his 3D radar. For that time sophisticated equipement.

[@Wolfie6020]

+stephanhaak50 So do you think you would see curvature from just 1200 ft with a camera zoomed in to a FOV of less than 50 degrees? I could have told you before shooting this video that it would not be evident. Why wouldn't a Dutch navy commando ship be able to regulate traffic with a 3D radar over Paris on a curved Earth? I am curious... how small do you think the Earth is?

[@reversecourse]

Obvious CGI. How much does the Australian govt pay you to make these videos and pose as a pilot. And do you really think nobody would notice that "wolfie" spelled backwards is eiflow?? As in E.I.F.L.O.W. = Earth Is Flat Like Our Water

[@Wolfie6020]

I get paid millions per video - how else do you think I could afford to buy that jet ;-)

[@reversecourse]

Wolfie6020 Yep. I knew it. You can't stump the reversecourse.

[@Sableagle]

Can I get in on that? I could do with a few million myself. Tell them I'm a pilot too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXzUaJWdadlsg6s kzbin.info/www/bejne/onvMp3ljr5hkkJI See? Those vids're even CGI. They'll love 'em.

[@n.s.3410]

Flatards asside.. this is really wonderful footage.

[@alankevin_007]

Et 6 platistes qui hésitent encore entre la corde et les médocs. :)))

[@schnitzelsaus4785]

I really appreciate Wolfie's work, especially the way he comments. But he doesn't want to discuss the credibility of NASA. I wonder if he believes in the heliocentric model (not FE) and I also wonder if he believes NASA?

[@nebtheweb8885]

And why should he? The video he made has nothing to do with NASA or our heliocentric solar system.

[@clownspike]

Flat Earth bubble - Burst.

[@Requiem4aDr3Am]

dome shattering?:P

[@clownspike]

Firmament Frying.

[@jimmyv.495]

Ice wall Melting?

[@AboSufian313]

I think there is a different between curvature and perspective. You prove the perspective not curvature.

[@Andrea2601M]

Wrong. Try again.

[@algladyou]

now that's how horizon works.

[@johnpetrov6602]

There are some high IQ people who believe in FE. Not many but some.

[@Wolfie6020]

+John Petrov. It does amaze me. One thing I have noticed with every flat Earther I have encountered is a weakness in basic Math and Geometry skills. It seems to be a common denominator. I guess even smart people can have those weaknesses.

[@johnpetrov6602]

@@Wolfie6020 It's a reminder to be humble and openminded. Just imagine what cognitive weaknesses exist for the whole human race?

[@Wolfie6020]

@@johnpetrov6602 Very true. I know I have weaknesses. I am just terrible at music, dancing or anything artistic.

[@johnpetrov6602]

@@Wolfie6020 And I can't get girls, Wolfie! Don't bother trying to help me, I'm hopeless! 60 seconds in and I'm discussing my stamp collection.

[@johnpetrov6602]

Satunnainen Katselija it’s true women are dull.

[@FrenchCrow]

I missed that video 3 years ago. Nice footage that makes me feel like I'm indeed on a sphere... About right to left curvature that flatties would like to see : I tried a capture at the highest elevation and compressed the image horizontally. The horizon is curved.

[@oxy9126]

applause Wolfie, a very clear video, drones are cool, bye bye flat earth, thx and cheers

[@FlatEarthMath]

You clearly don't understand perspective. ;-) Flat Earth Perspective is the phenomena which makes distant objects appear as if they're on a globe. But since we all know the Earth is Flat, then, well, it's just Perspective! (Perspective is like a "MacGuffin" in Hollywood movies.) wikipedia DOt org/wiki/MacGuffin

[@motokid6008]

Flat Earth Math I laughed out loud.

[@DANGJOS]

Flat Earth Math You've got to be the coolest troll I know lol

[@pierrevallet6188]

Sure that he is a cool troll, just for info, perspective doesn't exist as "phenomena", perspective is just a set of rules which uses to simulate the 3rd dimension on a drawing, picture or any 2 dimension support. Perhaps you could add the way of the brain use the information that the eyes give it to create a representation on the world, but perspective doesn't exist by itself.

[@FlatEarthMath]

+BB 64 You teach at a local college? Then you're part of the conspiraceeeeh! ;-) Sorry for the original post, mate, I was having some fun. If you look up MacGuffin you'll see why I called "Perspective" the MacGuffin of the Flat Earth Debate. Are you familiar with this image? upload DOT wikimedia DOT org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Staircase_perspective.jpg It looks like some of the lines drawn to vanishing points are actually guide lines and not lines in the final image. Epic! I remember to this day when I learned about perspective. It was a summer art program in my Junior High school roughly 39 years ago, and it blew me away. I've never forgotten the lesson, and have had fun with the technique (my favorite is 3 point perspective).

[@FlatEarthMath]

+BB 64, I'd never heard of five or six point perspective! Very cool examples online. :-)

[@anounceofsaltperday6492]

W... all you are demonstrating is the vanishing point. If you do you a zooming lens from ground level, the ships that disappear will come back into view. Why are those ships visible at all? To someone standing at the shoreline, the horizon is less than 4km away. I have done this experiment a hundred times in Port Philip bay. Port Melbourne is clearly visible in a telescope from Pt Lonsdale. No matter how high you fly, the horizontal is at horizontal eye level... even in your film at 45,000'

[@Wolfie6020]

+anounceofsaltperday. No my friend. Once again, the Horizon is not at eye level even from 45,000 ft. I have explained that very clearly and answered all your questions (about the inconsistency) clearly. I see it drop every time I fly clearly in the HUD> If you still can't see how and why that belief is completely wrong then clearly I am wasting your time. Have you seen this video? I want to try it myself. Perhaps we can when come to Melbourne. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpyQpZ6viZekndU Can you show me on Google Earth exactly what part of Pt Lonsdale and what part of Port Melbourne you can see?. I will try that too when I come down. In the meantime, can you post a video or photo next time you do it so I can see exactly where you mean.

[@anounceofsaltperday6492]

I don't see what you see. I don't accept the decision of the HUD because we have agreed that it is being "adjusted" during flight. It is also inconsistent with the maximum horizon level of this pic, taken from the new sky diving record at 135,890' which should have the horizon nearly 7 degrees from the horizontal. The curve shown here is consistent with Cyclone Debbie curvature. www.dropbox.com/s/j3vlyddg6vl10ha/Record%20Sky%20Dive.JPG?dl=0

[@jimmyv.495]

anounceofridiculousness "I don't see what you see". Of course you don't. Anything that clearly disputes your nonsense via accurate measurements and instruments gets dismissed by FE F@cktards. Well, I dont trust your lying eyes.

[@anounceofsaltperday6492]

I confirm your numbers JA. i suggest that deflection of 7o from the horizontal is easily detected by the eye. I see no such outcome. Lets do balloon experiments with simple optical dumpy levels connected to cameras which take pics whenever the dumpy level is horizontal. One day, i will do this experiment.

[@Wolfie6020]

+anounceofsaltperday. I don't know how to get the point across to you mate. That is a great photo from 135,890 feet but you have NO way to tell how far the horizon has dropped from true level. There is no reference at all. It could be 7 degrees, it could be 10, there is no reference so we don't know. Yes the HUD adjusts for local level that is true - did I not explain what happens when we approach clouds - what happens in the HUD? I thought I did as I have explained it to others many times but if not I will happily do so again for you. All it would take is one flight and you would realize the HUD is an accurate indication of local true level.

[@evolutionCEO]

Looks pretty flat to me. :D

[@Dynodon64]

Nice flat horizon there. Can't see any curve. Look how the horizon always stays at eye level as you go up. If the Earth was a globe, it would fall away as you go up. Nice flat Earth demo there. Great job! Will share with other Flat Earthers.

[@Wolfie6020]

+Dynodon64 - Yes Thanks please do share it with other Flat Earthers, It will help sort out the men from the boys as anyone who thinks curvature should be visible at just 1200 ft with a zoomed in camera is too silly to waste my time with... I gave you a thumbs up for that. Yes, the Horizon does drop away, you are not looking closely enough, I have a later video that proves this too, Cheers.

[@bradboy1975]

Dynodon64 Hahaha, nice joke. Unfortunately some flat earthers are going to believe you about the horizon and won't bother confirming that it doesn't rise to eye level! Well done sobbing exactly like them!

[@Dynodon64]

Don't be so hard on yourself, you can learn too.

[@bradboy1975]

Sphere Doomer​ Most of them are. Bit I'm sure you've run into some that have run away and never came back after a hard question. Well, hard for a flat earther. I like to think those ones closed the books on the flat earth nonsense. The problem with stupid people is that now are made all the time. The benefit of sharing our knowledge is that a stupid person can gain this knowledge. And Wolfie is one of the ones leading the charge!

[@Sasoon2006]

As it was mentioned in one of the comments, go to 1:22 in video, place mouse cursor at horizon, and whatch how horizon goes down as drone gets higher

[@TheTitouf06]

Australia is fake, nothing exists downside equator but... Look at 9:22 the third boat from the left (or 2nd from the right): is it a desapearing hull down the sea level? My god! call 911 boat sinking!

[@TheTitouf06]

No way, you just saw what happens to a boat when it goes over the horizon. Thx mate, welcome on the Globe!

[@flatyoungearthchristian1675]

No curvature. Boats don't drop over curvature. Gravity is BS.

[@Wolfie6020]

+Even unto death. Wrong on all points mate.

[@flatyoungearthchristian1675]

How so? Show me boats going under curve? The sinking bottom first is a distortion from the atmosphere, which is further proved by your video 100%. The ocean water is flat 100%. So what the hell is going below curvature?

[@Wolfie6020]

+Even unto death. Sorry the water is not flat 100%. What about tides? Do you know Broome has 10 meter tides (30 ft) while Perth has less than 2 meters (6ft) How is water flat? Why doesn't the water rush in torrents down the West coast of Australia every time Broome has a high tide? Not flat at all. Here is a boat disappearing below the Horizon. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6WtaaOuoquAeJI kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWmQnH6ogparj7M

[@Wolfie6020]

+Even unto death. As for gravity - jump up and see what happens. No, that is not caused by density. Density alone does nothing. Without gravity, water and air float around each other. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYXUfYSFaLFngdE

[@grahvis]

Even unto death So what causes weight? Nice simple question you cannot answer.

[@sevenhill54]

Great video proving a Flat Earth once again. Thare is no Curvature to be seen at all. You Ballers cannot have it both ways, we do not live on a TUBE. The horizon should have curvature both ways if we lived on an "Globe"

[@bbgub5748]

Casey Zevenbergen how much curve do you expect to see. The earth is bigger then you think pal

[@FranciscoRodriguez-zn3pz]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYaqnoqrmL-gftE

[@keyanmoradi5088]

Seems like someone’s having trouble grasping the difference between the horizon curve and the Earth curving away from you. Can’t expect any better from a flatwit. 🤣

[@fablb9006]

Casey Zevenbergen do the same experiment in all directions and the result will be the same, there will be curvature in all directions, as we are a sphere, and not like in a tube... the horizon is not the curve of the earth but the limite of the part of earth that is still visible from each specific point of view, at our altitude there is no geometric reason why we could see a curved horizon. This would be seen only at very high altitudes. You are looking for the wrong thing.

[@danielverwey4701]

Because you can see about 1/1000th of the full circumference in any direction at these altitudes. It's an approximation but you are demanding way too much from the available scale.