EVO 2013 SSBM Top 8 - Dr PeePee (Falco) vs Mango (Fox)

[@semperpee]

You can tell the one anouncer with the deeper voice knows what he's talking about much more.

[@TheWallsocket]

That's prog, one of the oldest and best melee announcers

[@sh0shin]

sometimes I think prog forgets how to get words out of his mouth

[@mrgoodfight14]

why no down air at 7:11 by pp?????

[@TheKmanOfSmash]

That's fine. It's hard to accept things that are different from what we're used to. But whether we, who are familiar with the game, personally liked the commentary or not doesn't really matter, imo, because the most important variable was a large chunk of the stream audience who had absolutely no idea what competitive Melee is and I think Mr. Chen's elementary analyses of the matches was optimal in getting those new viewers up to speed. It's always about the viewers!

[@favourites4]

I wish this was 3/5 :(

[@starfox300]

How did Mango know at the end that PP had no jump?

[@lagalil]

When you double jump concentrical rings briefly appear below your characters. It is difficult to notice though.

[@NickKrishnan]

He didn't have to grabbing the ledge is good despite whether pp had a jump or not

[@JeezImSoBored]

there's enough time to do the suicide dair on reaction against the firefox at that moment, pp just doesnt do that very often and prob wanted to do a safe edgeguard

[@mynombreiscool]

dr pp really choked on that last stock

[@MewcePewpz]

Indeed, these would have been exponentially more hype if prog got to choose his co-commentator, but for the other communities a compromise had to be made, i speculate

[@cabbagegun]

close! wish there could have been another round

[@DelanHaar6]

Man, such a close last match... Good stuff, PPMD!

[@199789638]

He was learning as he went. He fixed his mistakes by picking up on what prog was saying. Sure, we call them "lasers" and he says "gunshots" but literally anyone would relate the two as the same thing from what they see. I don't hate having an old school FGC player and prominent current commentator to cast Melee. Considering he didn't know anything at all about competitive smash in-depth until like a few weeks before this, he did very well with the help of prog.

[@monicasimms6481]

lawdy 3 years is a long time

[@sortofjosh]

epic fistbump at the beginning

[@dboy09277]

a real stock of champions on that last stock game 2

[@eragonrules1234]

mango said himself that Falco cant win on isolated hits, and game 1 was a exemplification of that statement.

[@rooksman64]

but none of that happened did it? so it was not close...as I implied

[@JBpaperstacks123]

I love James Chen but it's painfully noticeable that he doesn't understand or know much about smash . He didn't know the stage names , the terminology , the moves . He knew some stuff , but it was obvious that he was just trying to use general terms that applied to the situation

[@MewcePewpz]

You're right, he could have.. damn

[@KashiwaDaisuke]

mango has figured out the anti-everything game

[@danielvutran]

Oh man.... I hope he reads this. You're totally right lol >_>

[@belcurve]

dr peepee with the great gunshots

[@shaolinotter]

The first move pp does is like a lagless laser without hopping, wtf?

[@cygnus8047]

He did hop it is just that he pressed 'b' late. Its a lot harder to time because its really easy to get a blank shot.

[@shaolinotter]

okay, thanks.

[@chupacabra747]

No suicide dair on firefox that last stock??? Peepee could've had game 3

[@mrm64]

It's ok PPMD, jut wait for Apex 2014...oooh boy...

[@guitarskate613]

james chen's commentary is cringeworthy

[@alexmorsey1362]

"Just like those gunshots!" what... gunshots?

[@ShinGouki1337]

Why is he commentating on SSBM in the first place? He's one of the Street Fighter folks.

[@JBpaperstacks123]

Yessss

[@rooksman64]

2-0 isn't close for a match, >100% on last stock of a single game is close. Match was not close. I'm not confused. I'm right

[@Azzucips]

he was a good, hype commentator for the n00bs that don't completely understand the game

[@AcydRayne666]

pp had a jump he didn't use on that last stock, right side of fountain.

[@wendellsouza102]

AcydRayne666 he didn’t. If you slowdown the match at this moment you will see that falco gets out of tumble in the frame before the upsmash hits meaning pp pressed jump.

[@1sillybanana]

he jumped into the reverse upsmash, so he lost his second jump.

[@eragonrules1234]

mango has figured out the anti-falco game: dont get shined. just look at first match lol

[@kik0le]

Everything aside, this was a good match. Good stuff from both sides.

[@victalfaithful2003]

mango went so close to neo its insane

[@shualloret]

You obviously have not seen a good kirby ditto.

[@shlomr]

he says it in talk

[@WillToWinvlog]

His commentary is better than your commentary on his commentary

[@strawhats100]

hmm...mango shield drops now 4:21. Just never stops adding layers to his game

[@somaghost]

Winner bracket Mango is a traveshamockery!

[@demetadimming3272]

Good kirby ditto you say? interesting

[@zhongwennihongo]

i object. a motivated mango is not vergil with swords. a motivated mango actually has skill.

[@SS4xShinobi]

if he woulda went for that and mango woulda side B'd instead of up B'd, then pee would've been fucked. he couldnt risk his last stock on that

[@DagoBrotherC]

They both wipe their noses almost every time they lose a stock

[@Azzucips]

that would be weird

[@ShotofCyanide1]

I suppose he deserves more credit than what i have given him. I do appreciate him taking the time to study up on the melee metagame. Perhaps i am just to used the regular melee commentators that, any new commentary sits weird with me. That and i still just dont like james chens voice, sorry just imo.

[@hi-jt7uj]

GUNSHOTS LOL

[@BuIIetBiII]

lol that's far easier said than done

[@aajj9891]

dr pp become so strong but mango is just too great

[@kristof6670]

lets de play ehm, you know this is 2013, right?

[@celica7104]

Gabe Simmons WTF are you talking about. Last time PPMD and Mango faced each other was at MLG Anaheim 2014, and Mango *won*. PPMD's last tournament was Apex 2015 however, but he didn't even face Mango.

[@Metazoa54321]

At least it's not Skisonic.

[@etohhhh]

I wonder how they picked james chen to comment in the finals, literally any of the other commentators would have been better.

[@GladRichGirl]

ultrachen is annoying to listen too when it comes to commentating smash

[@Jbdkaizer]

I believe you are confused with the concept of close...that word means that something almost happened. Mango was over 100% on his last stock when he won, that is called a close match.

[@mrgoodfight14]

exept the armada in his prime game

[@eragonrules1234]

lol, i never said it was easy, i was just pointing out how shitty of a character Falco is if u take away his shine combos. Mango got shined like less than 5 times game 1

[@jungshin87]

This is the real mango. kings of cali mango was a sham mango.

[@patelkedar]

Lol that other commentator.

[@Hypethug]

Your sooooooo goood mango

[@starfox300]

pp almost had it in the last game

[@mctaylor24]

Seriously though, how come in gaming tournaments they never just refer to the competitors by their real names? Can't really take Dr. Peepee seriously. lol

[@ghost245353]

mango respecting dr. pp

[@RMahna94]

toward b's

[@JCno28]

lmao peepee was mad af

[@Azzucips]

I think he meant to but fucked up

[@TheKmanOfSmash]

How disrespectful. For how little he knew of the games, its mechanics and terminology prior to the donation drive, Mr. Chen was able to commentate well enough for a stream audience mostly unfamiliar with competitive Smash, which shows how much he prepared for this event. Plus, having James Chen commentating Melee is like one of the greatest honors Melee's ever been given in the FGC. Besides... well, being at Evo of course. Also, I personally found his commentary to be just fine. No hate here.

[@henkvandendungen6239]

0p

[@archmint3774]

Mango's good. Dr. peepee still better. bext fox vs best falco unfortunately fox wins. Man I am kind of mad. lame mango laame

[@lovebirdrica22]

damn mango so fancy