Shonen Jump’s Biggest Failures

[@mothersbasement]

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[@orbito9112]

LOL how is this posted 50 mins ago when this hasn't even been up for kore then 2 mins?? 💀

[@thesirenfox3017]

Get that bag

[@Rigilaurus]

God tier glaze

[@mrdelirious8706]

I genuinely thought they shut this down, since i hadn't had it shilled to me for like 2 years! Nostalgic, to see it again here.

[@Eamonshort1]

No.

[@casualfanatic4217]

Please, I am begging you. Do not cancel Ichi the Witch. Shiro Usazaki doesn’t deserve another work to be cancelled and it’s actually shaping to be a good fantasy manga

[@jonathanrich9281]

Oh, I just started reading this one!

[@goldmemberpb]

I have kinda just stopped reading new shonen jump series because it just feels like you wasted your time when they get cancelled 20 weeks in. I just wait until those manga survive a year or two or they get some good word of mouth.

[@YoutubeCommentor1]

​@@goldmemberpb basically what I started doing as well. As much as I love finding new series, I'm tired of them getting canned just as they're getting good.

[@sajohnson09]

Randomly coming across this comment right when I was trying to remember the name of the girl who got screwed over because of the author she was drawing for is wild. I'd been wondering if she managed to get back out there.

[@manuelmaa8196]

Also written by mairimashita iruma kun’s author so there’s a lot of potential there.

[@MusicMaestro221]

The cancellation of Tenmaku Cinema was the one that hurt me the most. There were SO many potential stories to tell and the cast was a god damn delight.

[@zzz43344]

Yeah... 😞

[@Aaronrules380]

As another who has suffered through all of Samurai 8, it's a really good example of why it becomes a problem when a creator gets so big that editors get afraid to give any meaningful feedback and just let a creator's worst impulses run unchecked, because Kishimoto is someone's whose success was always on the back of strong feedback from editorial (I mean, that's why Sasuke even existed), and it's clear no editor was giving any meaningful feedback to that mess

[@freebrickproductions]

Wasn't that one of the big issues during Star Wars Episode 1's production as well in regards to George Lucas?

[@jordanvance1657]

​@freebrickproductions yess in a very big way. Both kishimoto and george lucas are idea guys but they need someone else with them who can help them excute their ideas properly.

[@cww2490]

​@@freebrickproductionsThat's probably just critics of the original trilogy who deified it and dislike everything or almost everything after it.

[@freebrickproductions]

@@cww2490 I seem to recall hearing that apparently the original draft George wrote for Episode IV was pretty close to what Episode I wound-up becoming.

[@felonyx5123]

@@freebrickproductions There's some notable similarities but I wouldn't go that far.

[@dalblackrose5388]

The fact that Tenmaku Cinema was cancelled was a crime. I read that weekly for a few months until it ended, and I got SO invested into it. The characters, the story… Everything was amazing. And then I saw that it was axed… I’m still heartbroken about it to this day. And what’s worse is that we never even got the Epilogue chapter in English. I would kill to read it :(

[@jakey14344]

Unfortunately, Shonen execs think of profitability than interesting stories. Hence, Tenmaku Cinema got cancelled cuz low sales.

[@zzz43344]

Yeah

[@whiteraven562]

the fact that that shonen jump video is 2 years old is terrifying

[@reighfreuden6473]

why did you have to point this out

[@edmundthespiffing2920]

Like how? For me it was the end of last year! Oh my....

[@everforward5561]

It feels like the people in charge of jump have unrealistic expectations. With all their big titles gradually going away, and One Piece ending on the horizon, they want the "next big things". The problem is that they keep chasing a smash success when they should just focus on steady readership.

[@templarknight7]

they have steady readership... there's only so many series you can give page real estate to in the magazines. you need the big successes to pay for all the other titles that can't pull their weight yet.

[@harebrainedasmr]

I am convinced that when One Piece finally ends, it will be the death knell of the magazine as a whole tbh.

[@templarknight7]

@@harebrainedasmr this comment shows how ignorant you are of the economics and the business as a whole. profit will definitely take a hit when OP ends, but it won't be enough to kill the company. Heck, they could just coast on licensing OP like they do Dragon Ball. The magazine won't die as it's basically Shueisha's R&D department; it's an incubator to create popular franchises that can be licensed out for more money.

[@murderman8578]

They number 1 due to those expectations

[@ma.2089]

They’re like the current American animation industry. Something doesn’t get popular within a week? Doesn’t reach the height of SpongeBob immediately? Cancel it! Except Shounen Jump has been like this for ages and the American industry has only become like this after execs stupidly believed that 2020’s streaming numbers were permanent fixtures going forward and not a result of COVID

[@mangaboy989]

When Geoff said, "a second rate studio with a third rate animation director." I yelled out, "my grandpa's studio has no bad animators, Kaiba!"

[@danielzakgaim2764]

For anyone interested, Araki had another manga BEFORE Baoh called "Cool Shock BT", about a kid genius named BT who solves crimes and defeats bad guys magic tricks. It recently got 2 sequel chapters titled "Cool Old Shock BT" where BT and his sodekick Koichi (unrelated) are now in tjeir late 60s.

[@harebrainedasmr]

But is this Koichi also a reliable guy?

[@Shahars71]

BT Is also literally Dio and it's funny how obvious that is.

[@jasozilux3791]

"The Hunters Guild: Red Hood" ended in such a beautiful but tragic way. It literally broke the 4th wall. So sad but interesting.

[@mothersbasement]

I covered that one in the last cancelled jump video! I was a huge fan from chapter 1

[@G_Rez]

As someone who used to compete in local golf tournaments, and being the only person in my friendgroup that played, I love sharing Green Green Greens with friends. The story was moving along real well, and it truly felt like it had only gotten started by the time it wrapped up. To me, it was very special to share my experiences with golf with my friends through an approachable medium for them, and I'll always love Green Green Greens for that. Wish I coulda rode that high for longer, but such is life

[@MikoYotsuya292]

I have never heard of Green Green Greens until now. But I have watched Green Green before 🤔🤔

[@squabbbb]

​@@MikoYotsuya292Green Green Greens Green is a good introduction to the type of storytelling you can expect to see in Green Green Greens, which I think makes it a better jumping on point for Green Green fans

[@Barbara_R-u2w]

Thank you for defending ultimate exorcist kiyoshi that Manga is actually funny with a unique character design.

[@jacobwismer1512]

I was really rooting for Martial Master Asumi, but i guess the subject matter and family drama didnt resonate with the core demo

[@harebrainedasmr]

My biggest issue, with that one, was the amount of "tell don't show". We were constantly TOLD about cool things that happened off-screen, but barely ever actually saw any of it.

[@chrissolace]

Even then, it had a ton of action to couple along with it, great flow and technicality, and great art to boot. I really feel like they could’ve addressed the “show don’t tell” issues as well if they just had more time and a good editor. But alas… it was not the explosive new “big thing” so it got axed.

[@theunknownsoldier04]

Hearing that Kishimoto's grand expenditure into giving women a more prominent role in his story is to make them a Wondrous Physick with boobs should shock me more than not at all.

[@muntu1221]

That's not even what happened. The concept of princesses wasn't even the end all be all of women in the story. The story got axed right after introducing a girl that was do powerful that she had powers before even becoming a samurai, the strongest human samurai in the universe is a woman, and one of the keys they hadn't been properly revealed yet was a woman.

[@TheRockerX]

​@@muntu1221too little too late, I guess

[@ValkyrieTiara]

I'm STILL mad about Ayashimon getting cancelled.

[@liesureleeminis8268]

Same, I was positively hooked from the first chapter

[@argnator]

Never thought I'd see another Ayashimon enjoyer out in the wild.

[@dvast]

now im sad

[@ivanbluecool]

We will see the next generation of manga dropped incoming. With mha and jjk rushed out the door they are already preparing for the next generation of fans

[@thaearthquake]

Gege genuinely shocked me with how he’s been handling JJK 😞

[@ivanbluecool]

@@thaearthquake honestly his world building is probably the worst of it all. Destorys it's own story by saying only Japan can make sorcerers or something. If mha said quirks only appear in Japan if you need a comparison

[@MegaDman16]

​@@ivanbluecool there are sorcerers outside of japan they're just rare also it's because of Tengens barriers that more sorcerers don't pop up.

[@ivanbluecool]

@@MegaDman16 and somehow nobody can replicate that to a smaller degree anywhere in the world. Not gonna fly there. Especially through science someone would have figured out something or some way to manage it. Heck we have sorcerers from other countries too. They could go to any spiritual spot and try someone out. It's not like yuji was that special or nobara who's a literal nobody.

[@Hawk7886]

​@@ivanbluecoolnah, there's nothing wrong with basing your story around one specific spot in the world. You just have to make it internally and externally consistent.

[@robertfaulkkner5508]

I was kinda glad when Samurai 8 wasn't covered in your last "Jump FAILS" video, but now my empathy is gone, I cannot WAIT to hear you tear this one eight different a-holes. I've also been putting off watching the Baoh OVA, so maybe this'll give me that push.

[@johndavidtibbetts7320]

You should watch it Baoh has a laser cannon :3

[@griffindault]

@@johndavidtibbetts7320 Baoh BREAK DARK THUNDER!!

[@mep15067]

Samurai 8 is a pall on my soul because I actually like the lore set up for the story and unironically love the art style and designs. But knowing how it turns out just curses me, I was actively cursing when I had to read the lore justifications for princesses. Like I get samurai have to have a lord to serve, and there was a bit of set up to imply that the "princess" role was not necessarily always having to be a female role or one necessitating submission and weakness. But Its such a bad foot to start on especially after what he did in ALL OF NARUTO

[@muntu1221]

One of the first characters we see is a female samurai, who is the most powerful hero in the story. Interpreting princesses as built in misogyny for male heroes is a bad faith criticism.

[@mep15067]

@@muntu1221 I didn't mention that samurai had to be female, I get the point your making but that part seems not well thought out or related to the topic i mentiones since im talking about *princesses*. Though One of the things I actually liked about the way the world was set up was that gender roles and presentations were very loose at least for samurai, with a gender ambiguous character being set up as a friendly rival and surprisingly progressive message about said topic in the early chapters, but the clear description of a princess in the setting is the role of a person who exists to give a samurai strength and reason to fight to be protected irrespective of the samurais goals or motives before or after becoming a samurai. perhaps if the story had proper time to mature and expand on this it could've been clarified but my point is that the role of princess in the story is *inherently* objectifiyng and predicates itself on a dependency on a samurai. And is therefore misogynistic due to the overwhelming representation we have in how all the princesses we see are female. All the character building we see never seems to tangibly address this fact even if kishimoto tries to establish unique angles and opinions of the characters in the story who *are* princesses, their function is going to be to provide the samurai strength or further character development, a criticism thats existed for kishimotos work for decades now, in that the purpose of the woman in this scenario is to further the arc of the main character and nothing else, even if the Mc was female to begin with it would still be considered an example of this criticism

[@muntu1221]

@mep15067 I don't think you can really apply this as a criticism in a hypothetical scenario where the leaf samurai is a woman, because it's not at all the issue that was the case with Naruto. Also, presenting a scenario where a character can experience objectification is not an indication of misogyny in the writing. The point of princesses as a narrative device was to introduce a dichotomy to be challenged by the cast. A lot of characters we meet live under the assumption that boys become samurai and the closest girl to them becomes their princess. This is challenged by the narrative as a backward, ignorant assumption. Anne has an arc that begins with her having to address this being the basis for her choosing to be a princess. The story ends with her implied to have chosen to be both a princess and a bushi. One of the themes of the story was that perception can be both true and incomplete. Hachimaru says he's a samurai, but he's also still the scrawny toothpick he started as. This was likely to address how in many pieces of media, characters will be cured of disabilities. But Hachimaru learned to embrace that he was still technically disabled. Anne is shown throughout the story to be extremely brave, just like a samurai. When any boy she's friends with is in danger, she doesn't pray. She jumps in front of them or tries to fight. This directly contrasts with the stated role of princesses. Also, we learn from another samurai duo that many, many princesses just straight up dip on their samurai who get too presumptuous about their dynamic. Daruma also explains that samrai are not _the_ important aspect of the trinity. They're part of a team, and learning that the princess has an active and important role isn't just for learning lessons. The samurai is there to assist her as well, and not everything is about fighting. I get what you're saying, but the story implies and shows us that not only is the universe not just focused on combat, but the princesses we meet may not even remain damsels. Princesses are also choosing it as their job, which is directly counter to the idea that it's objectifying. What I mean is that they are entirely capable of choosing to be samurai, and we see with Ichigo that the exact types of gifts that would make a girl a great princess could also make them an extremely powerful samurai. The issue in Naruto wasn't that many healers were women. It was that the women who _did_ exist had extremely shallow arcs, or they were sidelined or reduced to being very dumb because they were boy crazy. It didn't help that Naruto ended up making the entire world operate on who can punch the hardest, and all the women who could objectively punch harder than their male counterparts were skipped over for the EOS buffs. I can't say Kishimoto wouldn't end up making the same mistakes, but when he starts the story with this world's Hashirama being a woman, and he peppers the story dismantling a misogynistic system, and he ultimately ends it with the female support character putting on a katana in order to lead a team to save the galaxy, I can't simply say that the story is still suffering from the same issues as Naruto. Especially when he actively subverts traits from old characters, like making Anne just actually have a stutter she inherited from. Her brother teaching her broken language instead of her being shy and timid.

[@bloatytoegaming246]

I thought Fabricant 100 was doing some interesting things until it was suddenly over after 36 chapters.

[@DrGandW]

God so many of these series I’m like, “oh god why can’t Jump just let them keep going in another form I hate this business model that chews up people’s coolest ideas”

[@Skimmer951]

Fabricant was so good it broke my heart to see it end so early.

[@Guywholikesbirds]

So my cat snuck up on me while I was watching this video on my phone and by the time I noticed he was there, he was absolutely CAPTIVATED. You have my cat's seal of approval.

[@ApexGale]

Most Shounen Jump manga fails because the sharks at the top are fishing for the next big thing to pull in numbers. I feel like every artist who has been serialized weekly in Jump has horror stories about it in later interviews

[@rondorock2563]

Yep, sharks feed.

[@khclupus]

Ryogo Narita’s style would never have fit within Jump’s style or like you said, the 19 pages of a weekly serial. At least Stealth Symphony failing gave us Dead Mount Death Play.

[@murderman8578]

Which 22 pgs monthly

[@jackofdiamonds7303]

Some series that really made me sad when I heard of their cancellation were Two on Ice, MaMaYuYu, and Green Green Greens. Two on Ice and GGG were both character driven sports stories that captivated me in so little time, while MMYY’s concept was just so interesting it managed to offset the blandness of its characters. Edit: Since you brought it up, I need to talk about Shadow Eliminators. It felt like the most generic thing I’ve ever read, from the title, to the world, to the characters, just everything. It was kinda hilarious how basic the whole thing was.

[@samt3412]

I hope MMYY's author could land himself as half of an artist-writer duo, because if he's putting his pen and incredible paneling to a well-told story, he'd be unstoppable.

[@DrGandW]

You need a cool idea, a cool world, interesting characters, and hype IMMEDIATELY. It’s so unfair I genuinely want to just go read some other magazine with some freaking stability. It’s demoralizing.

[@murderman8578]

2 on ice didn't have the sauce and figure skating just doesn't fit the readership

[@murderman8578]

​@DrGandW Jump is Stable because,they only keep the ones that are selling

[@RoxxieRaeVA]

"Kishimoto even manged to find an even lazier way to write women and relationships." I'm sorry W H A T

[@northstarjakobs]

This video has finally taught me what OVA stands for (original video animation). Somehow, despite being an anime fan for years and a fan of this channel for most of that time, somehow I never learned what it actually stands for.

[@rainous1]

I thought it meant "anime music video" in middle school, because of old KZbin

[@Gloomdrake]

@@rainous1ova?

[@TheRockerX]

​@@rainous1how the hell would OVA stand for anime music video (AMV)?

[@leithaziz2716]

@@rainous1 I think you're reffering to AMVs, A Music Video.

[@chiyowee2721]

My most recent disappointment was with a cute Jump+ series called Moebana from 2022-2023. It wasn't the best thing in the world, but it resonated with me so I liked it a lot. Got cancelled RIGHT at the climax of the moment the entire series had been leading up to at that point, then the last chapter ended with a sudden timeskip and huge reveal shoved in at the end. I still haven't read the whole chapter so I can pretend it's still going on. rest in PEACE ah great video BTW !! always love learning more from ya

[@fanatica1338]

If you make another one of these could you maybe cover Beet the Vandel Buster? It holds a special place in my heart as one of the first manga I read

[@mothersbasement]

Sure! I’ll put it on the list

[@fanatica1338]

@@mothersbasement Actually I did just look it up and it turns out it did actually make a return a while ago and is currently ongoing so it might not count anymore lol. Still if you can find an excuse to talk about it, I would appreciate that.

[@samlewis6487]

It's a shame Tenmaku Cinema ended so early, but at least we have Beat and Motion which is very different but does have a main character with a very similar (though much more adult) arc.

[@RemniStrath]

I'll always remember what we could have had with more Psyren. That manga was so good and I really wish we could see an anime adaptation of it with a not so rushed ending.

[@jetblackangelX]

It's crazy that psyren never animated

[@Jetflash6999]

I would go nuts for an animated Psyren series with a slightly slowed pacing. You can really tell with that series that the editors said “step on the gas” at a certain point, then an obvious “finish ASAP” moment later. Even with those problems, it remains one of my all-time favorites.

[@karayura10]

Imagine Melchsee's being animated, gah

[@murderman8578]

​@@jetblackangelXbarely broke a 1 mil

[@pippy6973]

as an MMA fan I really enjoyed Martial Master Asumi. I was bummed to see it get cancelled.

[@BlurryHeart15]

MaMaYuYu, Green Green Greens, MMA, and Tenmaku Cinema getting canceled were such a shame. I REALLY enjoyed those Manga and when they suddenly ended I was super sad

[@argnator]

Ryuhei Tamura needs his own damn video at this point. Author of Beelzebub, one of 2000s era Jump's Big Hits - until they gave him 10 chapters to wrap it up. Then he kept rising back up only to get knocked down in what feels like a "why give him this much room just to force a rushed ending" ESPECIALLY with Cop and Dolphin. I'm just bitter because it seems like they don't understand what a good thing they had going. Beelzebub was like a more genre-savvy Gintama and it got raw-dealed in multiple ways almost spitefully.

[@cerulean1003]

at the very least it seems like hes found some success over at Shogakukan with Cosmos (which last i checked is doing pretty well) but yeah from what i know of his series they really fumbled all three of them

[@Garrettheparrot]

Boy I blocked out more of Samurai 8 in my memory than I thought.

[@northstarjakobs]

I literally said "ooo yippee" out loud when I refreshed KZbin and saw this upload.

[@tylergoodman3560]

These manga are proof that not every concept needs to be greenlit. Great video from mothers basement. 🎉

[@VaellinTheBard]

Except most of these were pretty good based on MBs review...

[@kingkoolkattz]

good lord Samurai 8 is just soup of shonen ideas that have been done elsewhere and is so massively frontloaded rather than spread out, its both incomprehensibly detailed but tells a bunch of half baked ideas at the same time

[@supersizesenpai]

Catching spirits to use like Pokémon is an anime I didn't know I wanted in my life and now I can't have it. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@mothersbasement]

Have you heard about a little game series called Yokai Watch

[@supersizesenpai]

@@mothersbasement I was hoping for something a bit less Fox Kids..lol

[@ilikestuff9250]

Shin Megami Tensei does exist

[@purewhiteloverbizarrejelly]

Isekai, harem, and exorcist all need to have a tournament arc to see which genre is the most banal trope to plague anime and manga

[@murderman8578]

They keep buying them up and consume That's the market

[@SinHurr]

RIP Araki. He's not dead. I just hope he gets a good night's rest. It's good for his health.

[@markthetopfabricator6047]

It made me sad that Martial Master Asumi got caned😢, i would have loved a big time MMA manga in shonen jump.

[@DNeonLamp]

I was really hoping to finally hear someone else's take on Ginka & Gluna. The only other time I've ever been surprised by the "the end" tag appearing at the end of a chapter was Phantom Seer, and I could understand that one in retrospect if not agree with it. Ginka & Gluna meanwhile I wasn't even aware could possibly be on the chopping block because my friends and I were talking weekly about its whimsical adventure through fantastical settings.

[@mothersbasement]

I wrote a section about ginka and gluna that had to be cut for time actually. Long story short, I think it’s a gorgeous manga but the plot didn’t really have enough in the way of structure or concrete goals to hold most readers’ attention and the magic system was a little *too* open ended to create engaging stories

[@DNeonLamp]

​​​@@mothersbasement I personally felt that the open ended magic system was mostly just making way for "One Punch Man but magic" to make their way through the world with enough to grip on to for their party of followers to evolve themselves, and the plot hook was more similar to Avatar the Last Airbender in providing eventual destinations that backdrop the great characters and fun adventure exploring the world. I really enjoyed how open it was because the ride to get wherever it was going was well worth it each chapter and let me be constantly surprised.

[@barbarrojaa.c.4761]

Someone loving on Ultimate Exorcist Kyoshi makes me happy. It feels a fresh take on a ver tired niche. I hope it can go the distance.

[@samlewis6487]

Okay but "the one where the monsters are called MAGA" is actually pretty decent. It's not my favorite but it's not bad.

[@hollowshield2315]

Mike Tyson in his prime has no chance against a badass like me who's 100% completed Sekiro on hard mode

[@leithaziz2716]

Shaw!

[@greenapple9477]

I want Geoff to discuss fans who insist subs are always better than dubs or that dubs are always bad. Fans who generally just hate localization for some stupid reason.

[@tonyjoestar2632]

The ending of Resident Evil 5 is BASICALLY the ending to Battle Tendency

[@DogDudeRulez]

I like this new ichi the witch manga. Cool power system and the main character is just charmingly focused

[@nibblitman]

If you want more of this just giving a shout out to the Shonen Flop podcast

[@GenericSoda]

I remember being REALLY excited for Stealth Symphony; I'm not just a fan of Baccano! and DRRR!!, but Yoichi Amano is one of my favorite unsung artists in Jump with a pretty decent body of work with cancelled series like Akaboshi and submitting a winning boss design for Mega Man 7 in Slash Man under his belt. I'm always rooting for him whenever he he gets a serialization, and hope one day he manages to land a hit. Also the reminders of Ayashimon and Phantom Seer were painful - Ayashimon moreso after finishing Jigokuraku, though Phantom Seer's uniquely grotesque art was a joy to read at the time. Phantom Seer's creator commented on Fujimoto's oneshots in a way that makes me think he has a good head on his shoulders. Excited to see what he does next.

[@tipulsar85]

Well it got mentioned, which mean I'm obligated to say the following quote from the dub...: "Baoh has a laser canon!" No, you don't get context for the line.

[@mmem4264]

I still feel angry when I remember why the princess’s brother died in Samurai 8 and that the MC acted like the reasoning was honorable/justifiable. I don’t remember much else from the series though. Maybe there was a puppet hand character or something??? Anyway I dropped it and never looked back lol.

[@colebarber8485]

Centuria is another really good one I fear could be cancelled but it's genuinely phenomenal thus far. With Berserk style art and some great character work.

[@jstarstudios7110]

EPILEPSY WARNING: The segment "Kamen Rider's Bizarre Adventure" contains EXTREME white flashing lights that even gave me, non-epileptic myself, eyestrain! Use epilepsy warnings, dude, god dan!

[@GurrenLagann98]

L

[@HallowedKhaos91]

How about no?

[@antonydrossos5719]

As for “Baoh the Visitor”, I read it back when Viz translated it. Araki thought up a version of “Bullet Time” 10 years before the Matrix!

[@Oldage429]

Hey man, Raid Shadow Legends is made by an Israeli company, so it might be best to drop them as a sponsor if you are contractually able to do so

[@Taydar]

You have illustrated the point that the anime and manga industry is by far the most creatively bankrupt industry in the world and does nothing but reiterate on the same few basic ideas.

[@Unexpectedstuff]

This is already way too sad and frustrating to watch. Thank you

[@Nintentohtori]

Asumi's axe punched me to the nuts harder than mostly anything in years

[@cerberusofbass]

Idk if you've talked about it already, but Dogsred is already one of my favorite sports manga. The characters and comedic timing are truly something special, and it's great to see hockey having time to shine in manga form. I strongly reccommend.

[@WaffleMenu]

Green Green Greens was one of my favorite things in such a long time. Such a shame it was cut…

[@evanroznoy940]

MMA, Tenmaku and Red Hood were all super depressing axes for me. They really felt like they had the confidence in their visions that many doomed new series (and some non axed Nue ones sonehow) lack. Honestly Kiyoshi also seems to lack that confidence as well, but it's just so fun I'm really rooting for it to succeed.

[@cww2490]

Samurai 8 sounds like it could have been great if it slowed things down both story and power scaling wise. That insane summary of chapter 1 doesn't sound that crazy if it wasn't shoved into 1 chapter, but instead over 50-100 chapters. And by rushing the power levels of fights he speed runs the problems of the latter parts of Naruto into the first few chapters. For anyone who remembers chapter 1 of Naruto had a short introduction of the 9 tails battle in the leaf, Naruto doing a prank, Naruto being tricked into stealing a treasure, the reveal he has the 9 tails sealed inside him, learning his signature move and defeating a bad guy and being acknowledged as a Ninja. In all of that only 4 characters are shown. It flows perfectly and doesn't have any info dump sessions and doesn't escape the small episode of Naruto learning the big secret and becoming a offical Ninja. I swear if the author tried rewriting Naruto today he would reveal all the major characters of the first half in episode 1-2 and have Naruto immediately learn to use the 9 tails or Sage Mode. He would also tease the alien ninja freaks.

[@rjjm88]

I absolutely love how varied your tastes are. I've been exposed to so much anime I never would have watched because you talk about JJK, Kaguya-Sama, My Deer Friend, Frieren, and Konosuba all with the same passion and enthusiasm. Thanks for continuing to bring us your thoughts and opinions. ♥

[@griffindault]

Is that Baoh in the thumbnail?!?! Love me some Baoh especially when he gets a laser cannon

[@KRDiStort]

Aside from the ones you mentioned at the start, in the video itself, and in the last video, here's a roundup of every axed Jump manga I had actively been reading: ByeByeBye, Set it and Forget it, Skeleton Double, Witch Enforcer, MamaYuyu, The Pension Life Vampire, Diasporaiser (though that might've just been a mini-series, not an actual cancellation), Service Wars, The Ichinose Family's Deadly Sins, Ghostbuster Osamu, Do Retry, Fabricant 100, The Kajiki Chef, and Ginka and Gluna. Let me stress, this is only the stuff I had been actively reading, not accounting for a shitload of other stuff that I either wasn't interested in or dropped prematurely. Something you quickly learn when you start reading Jump regularly: nobody is truly safe from the axe.

[@AllenWalker15735]

D.Gray - Man is the Manga that helped pioneered the exercise genre and recently had its 20th anniversary. Shueisha is its publisher also.

[@jackkatz8604]

LittleKuriboh loves Kamen Rider, so I'd bet he'd love Baoh

[@thaearthquake]

Love the fact that I’m seeing LK mentioned in 2024

[@jackkatz8604]

@@thaearthquake He's still putting out Yugioh Abridged after all these years.

[@KamauKazemoto]

Hearing the Custom Robo OST was not something I was expecting, but I welcome it greatly

[@redkingrauri3769]

Baoh was an Araki story?! Wow. How could it have failed though? Baoh has a laser cannon!

[@plstmb6000]

I feel the weekly/monthly release is one of the biggest Japanese comic obstacle: you have a good concept of a story from beginning till the end, but the real time reader's feedback and publisher involvement could drastically change your next step of writing the story and potentially alter your story, because you want to satisfy both the publisher and the readers.

[@claytonrios1]

Shonen Jumps editors are so cutthroat that even most pirate crews in One Piece would say they're a bit harsh! Buggy the Clown would say they're scary!

[@Sandshrew282]

YEAH BAOH MY BOI BAOH WOO HOO I adore the Baoh manga, and this is the first I'm hearing of it having an OVA! Thanks for bringing the OVA to my attention, I'll be sure to check it out! And I can't believe I didn't make the connection to Kamen Rider before... as a superfan of both, I should have realized part of why I love them both so much is they have so much in common! Also as a fun fact: the Kamen Rider airing at the same time as Baoh was in publication was Kamen Rider ZX, who only has a movie and a manga tie-in rather than a full season. Just like Baoh, the series was canceled before it could get off the ground.

[@bakuhakudraws5603]

HINOMARUZUMO MENTIONED LET'S GOOOOOO I legitimately never enjoyed a sports manga before Hinomaru, but because it did such a good job of immersing me into and teaching me about Sumo wrestling, I became a legitimate fan of the sport while simultaneously getting me invested in the manga itself. I am gonna need to go read Martial Master Asumi because I trust it to actually teach me to understand MMA while simultaneously getting me hype for it.

[@ddjacksonjr97]

RIP Kyokuto Necromance, Shadow Eliminators, Phantom Seer, and Ayashimon. I was rooting for them so hard.

[@shawnheatherly]

Baoh is actually fantastic. It deserves the praise.

[@Droseraceae]

I feel really bad about Kyokuto Necromance 😢 the set up was really cool and I liked the art a lot. It deserved better.

[@murderman8578]

It didn't do anything interesting

[@chloeligma3883]

One thing for me about why Martial Master Asumi would have failed is that the story kind of introduces Asumi as already being an expert in grappling which is much more difficult to communicate visually when compared to striking. This ended up making a lot of the depictions of grappling seem kind of out of touch as the characters all treat something like mount as if It's super high level and mind-blowing when really it's kind of the first thing most people do when they're trying to hit you while you're both on the ground but because asumi is supposed to be already experienced in grappling It preemptively closes off the opportunity for the audience to learn more intricate things alongside him while also making it hard for people who would already be interested in MMA to take an interest in the fights because the fights are mostly just characters talking about really basic techniques as if they're super advanced and unbeatable. So ultimately, I don't think the issue was that MMA is too broad but that much of the manga felt like it was being written by somebody just didn't have much experience with MMA or at the very least couldn't communicate that knowledge in the way that you would expect a sports manga to

[@samuelmelendez7566]

I can't believe I'm this early, also I remember Baoh because of JJBA All Star Battle

[@LucasChro]

After MMA and Two on Ice got cancelled, I unfortunately didn’t give GGG a chance because I didn’t want to read another sports manga, just for it to get cancelled. Wish I was wrong and it’s a shame based on how you described the manga.

[@samlewis6487]

Nue's Exorcist sucks so bad and it definitely will get a definitive end and it absolutely does not deserve it. And I genuinely don't know why I'm still reading it actually, I think I will probably stop. Yokai Buster Murakami and Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi are both really good. Murakami is definitely worse but I also definitely like it more even though the humor is very dumb.

[@nenafan1]

Basically blander, reskinned Bleach

[@murderman8578]

Nue has been getting and has a lot style Sales numbers back this up

[@ivanbluecool]

Word of advice for people in This gen of manga. Don't be "that" person that acts like your series is be all end all. Compare to worst herione when your girl does something cool once(then dropped off the face of the world) since eventually it will get old and fade into the abyss and you'll become the old one talking to the next gen fans. Be respectful and be responsible and be open to the next series Aside one piece that thing will never end at this rate

[@allanolley4874]

Geoff contemplating the most depraved act a human can commit murder by golf?! Pokeymony type exorcist story where spirits fight each other, so like Shaman King?

[@lorenzoantonelli6467]

Since you mentioned Stealth Symphony I'd like to recommend Youichi Amano's sadly axed three volumes series "Akaboshi: Ibun Suikoden" which had amazing art, characters, characters design and humour. To this day I wonder why it got cancelled so fast. Give it a try!

[@Soppy-0]

While not huge failures, I'll forever mourn series like Mx0 and Double Arts

[@ivanbluecool]

Next video idea. "my favorite mangaka made another manga?" Since we see less famous manga from the Beelzebub. Nura rise of the yokai clan bleach etc mangaka and people should hear about it Heck dress up doll with Marin isn't the first manga they did either. I liked the stuff done before that became big.

[@Oops-All-Ghosts]

I'm gonna be honest I didn't even realize Tenmaku was cancelled. I thought that was just the actual endpoint they were going for.

[@sajohnson09]

I'm not even gonna lie, I had plans to start samurai 8.... But then stopped paying attention and forgot the name of it and mixed it up with kajiu no 8... So for the longest time until I actually finished the anime of Kaiju no 8 I thought that was it thinking it did well enough to get animated... Then I was like, nah something ain't right.

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

The biggest surprise from this video for me was that Blue Exorcist is still running. (And it's making me realise that Gothic Sports was probably cancelled. I always thought the final chapters were rushed.)

[@kmurphy0620]

Oh god, a Raid commercial. Say no to gambling kids. This game is garbage.

[@jinnsmoke6484]

The biggest mistake in my books was never giving Psyren an anime adaptation

[@digitaljanus]

Wow, Baoh was one of those same 12 anime titles you saw on every video store's shelves in the early 90s, but I never got around to watching it. Thanks for the reminder!

[@FaTerokiMenra]

Wild that he STILL missed another exorcist manga as Oversleeping Takahashi is on Jump+/MangaPlus. But maybe this video has been in the works longer than its 10 chapters have been out. And debatable Insect Girl if you count that. So maybe TWO more.

[@mdudegamer]

You mentioned Tenmaku Cinema and I had a vocal reaction. I was really enjoying that story.

[@Addlexx]

Hey I just feel like throwing in another Shueisha/MangaPlus exorcist manga that's still ongoing and I like: Make the Exorcist Fall in Love. Yeah the title isn't that great, but it's hitting a topic I didn't expect a manga to hit: Christian guilt.

[@HurricaneDDragon]

It’s a shame that Samurai 8 was such a mess, because it looks like it had a really cool general aesthetic.

[@twobarsfourstars]

Thank you for covering green green grass, it was so damn good and worthy of recognition

[@tabathacarruthers5122]

There was a manga I loved which I think ended unfinished. It was about people being transported to another world through pay phones. Never thought a dead item could be so amazing.

[@Zac-hv3pn]

I'm still so sad that they axed Cipher Academy. Don't get me wrong, I understand why, it really isn't a "Jump manga", but it was by far the manga that I looked forward to reading the most each week (even more so than chainsaw man part 2). I know that Nisioisin said in an interview that he wanted to make at least one more manga in Shonen Jump before he dies, but as a fan I can't help but wish that he chose a different publisher...

[@danielg.w5733]

I feel so bad for the Samurai 8 artist. the guy deserves to apply his great art to a good story

[@Shahars71]

Everything you said about Samurai 8 just reminded me so much of the end of Naruto, and I think people were pretty sick of that style of writing, leading to just nobody buying Samurai 8.