Shonen Jump’s Biggest Failures

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[@orbito9112]

LOL how is this posted 50 mins ago when this hasn't even been up for kore then 2 mins?? 💀

[@thesirenfox3017]

Get that bag

[@Rigilaurus]

God tier glaze

[@mrdelirious8706]

I genuinely thought they shut this down, since i hadn't had it shilled to me for like 2 years! Nostalgic, to see it again here.

[@Eamonshort1]

No.

[@mangaboy989]

When Geoff said, "a second rate studio with a third rate animation director." I yelled out, "my grandpa's studio has no bad animators, Kaiba!"

[@primaroxas]

"except maybe Kuriboh"

[@RipePineapples]

​@@primaroxas Kuriboh has more use cases than Celtic guardian or magical hats. At least Kuriboh is searchable.

[@I5g58]

RipePineapples Frankly, kuribo is arguably more useful the majority of his, given his reliance on low attack normal monsters.

[@robertsonmcnaughton4850]

Kaibas comment to Joey is at least a backhanded compliment. Second rate duelist with a third rate deck

[@TeamGhostRyderINC]

@mangaboy989 .......Science Saru? LoL

[@casualfanatic4217]

Please, I am begging you. Do not cancel Ichi the Witch. Shiro Usazaki doesn’t deserve another work to be cancelled and it’s actually shaping to be a good fantasy manga

[@jonathanrich9281]

Oh, I just started reading this one!

[@goldmemberpb]

I have kinda just stopped reading new shonen jump series because it just feels like you wasted your time when they get cancelled 20 weeks in. I just wait until those manga survive a year or two or they get some good word of mouth.

[@midwestbox]

​@@goldmemberpb basically what I started doing as well. As much as I love finding new series, I'm tired of them getting canned just as they're getting good.

[@sajohnson09]

Randomly coming across this comment right when I was trying to remember the name of the girl who got screwed over because of the author she was drawing for is wild. I'd been wondering if she managed to get back out there.

[@manuelmaa8196]

Also written by mairimashita iruma kun’s author so there’s a lot of potential there.

[@Guywholikesbirds]

So my cat snuck up on me while I was watching this video on my phone and by the time I noticed he was there, he was absolutely CAPTIVATED. You have my cat's seal of approval.

[@nathanielvaughn6728]

_"Jellicle Jumps for Jellicle Cats..."_

[@MusicMaestro221]

The cancellation of Tenmaku Cinema was the one that hurt me the most. There were SO many potential stories to tell and the cast was a god damn delight.

[@zzz43344]

Yeah... 😞

[@Rirawl1]

I really liked Tenmaku and Green x3 :(

[@Unquestionable]

Yeah I was considering starting it when I saw it in the app only to obviously jump on too late

[@fukunaga-kane]

It sucks that we keep getting copycats of every shounen out there (like JJK, the fights aren;t even original. They just trace them from existing media), while original ideas are left to rot.

[@AZ-zz4kn]

Yeah I had hopes for that one, and the art was actually gorgeous from the artists who did Food Wars. Unfortunately when they announced it was cancelled I just ended up dropping it

[@whiteraven562]

the fact that that shonen jump video is 2 years old is terrifying

[@reighfreuden6473]

why did you have to point this out

[@edmundthespiffing2920]

Like how? For me it was the end of last year! Oh my....

[@Densoro]

Samurai 8 could’ve been a blast if it just had the confidence to _not explain itself. Not a word._ Imagine the raw imagery. Watching a dude reach for an orb. Orb produces a knife. Dude does the deed with the knife - why? But then your expectations get flipped around, and rather than dying, he takes a more powerful form. The whole time, your mind is buzzing with questions. So many authors need to listen to Depeche Mode. Enjoy the Silence.

[@YTwoKay]

The issue w/ 70 percent of anime. But it usually takes writers many stories to build up confidence, and in comics the ability to add exposition to generate easy panels is too strong a temptation.

[@MrGksarathy]

I think that principle only goes so far because then we have shit like JJK which absolutely refuses to explain itself to its own detriment, and even Bleach is as divisive as it is because Kubo prefers show, don't tell.

[@TheTrainFan9]

That depeche mode reference was amazing. You might be my own personal Jesus now.

[@fruitpunchsamurai4837]

@@MrGksarathy But then all of later Gintama absolutely refuses to explain itself or what the characters are thinking, it just shows you what's going on through their actions and expressions. I haven't read JJK or Bleach, but Gintama's my absolute favorite and I've never heard anyone complain about the lack of exposition

[@MrGksarathy]

@@fruitpunchsamurai4837 Gintama isn't really of the same genre as either, though. Do you expect much exposition from what is mostly a parody/gag work? JJK bills itself as a mostly serious shonen tragedy, and Bleach is shonen as they come.

[@Aaronrules380]

As another who has suffered through all of Samurai 8, it's a really good example of why it becomes a problem when a creator gets so big that editors get afraid to give any meaningful feedback and just let a creator's worst impulses run unchecked, because Kishimoto is someone's whose success was always on the back of strong feedback from editorial (I mean, that's why Sasuke even existed), and it's clear no editor was giving any meaningful feedback to that mess

[@freebrickproductions]

Wasn't that one of the big issues during Star Wars Episode 1's production as well in regards to George Lucas?

[@jordanvance1657]

​@freebrickproductions yess in a very big way. Both kishimoto and george lucas are idea guys but they need someone else with them who can help them excute their ideas properly.

[@cww2490]

​@@freebrickproductionsThat's probably just critics of the original trilogy who deified it and dislike everything or almost everything after it.

[@freebrickproductions]

@@cww2490 I seem to recall hearing that apparently the original draft George wrote for Episode IV was pretty close to what Episode I wound-up becoming.

[@felonyx5123]

@@freebrickproductions There's some notable similarities but I wouldn't go that far.

[@danielzakgaim2764]

For anyone interested, Araki had another manga BEFORE Baoh called "Cool Shock BT", about a kid genius named BT who solves crimes and defeats bad guys magic tricks. It recently got 2 sequel chapters titled "Cool Old Shock BT" where BT and his sodekick Koichi (unrelated) are now in tjeir late 60s.

[@Shahars71]

BT Is also literally Dio and it's funny how obvious that is.

[@happyslapsgiving5421]

There's also *Gorgeous Irene.*

[@jaybeans981]

You forgot the best part: Old Cool Shock BT is written by Nisio Isin (Monogatari) and drawn by Posuka Demizu (The Promised Neverland)

[@jaktrep]

You sure it wasn't Guanglai Kangyi?

[@ShonenFlop]

Cool Shock BT is unironically dope and literally has kids fighting nazis and robbing museums

[@jasozilux3791]

"The Hunters Guild: Red Hood" ended in such a beautiful but tragic way. It literally broke the 4th wall. So sad but interesting.

[@mothersbasement]

I covered that one in the last cancelled jump video! I was a huge fan from chapter 1

[@M.F.Hafizhan]

Still sad that it got axed

[@devingrayman8497]

This was a great manga that should have been able to continue.

[@shoobzy3431]

That was the one made by horikoshi's assistant right? I vaguely remember catching up to it when it had like 5 chapters and it was kinda creepy but cool. Didn't know it got cancelled but I'm not surprised.

[@everforward5561]

It feels like the people in charge of jump have unrealistic expectations. With all their big titles gradually going away, and One Piece ending on the horizon, they want the "next big things". The problem is that they keep chasing a smash success when they should just focus on steady readership.

[@templarknight7]

they have steady readership... there's only so many series you can give page real estate to in the magazines. you need the big successes to pay for all the other titles that can't pull their weight yet.

[@templarknight7]

@harebrainedasmr this comment shows how ignorant you are of the economics and the business as a whole. profit will definitely take a hit when OP ends, but it won't be enough to kill the company. Heck, they could just coast on licensing OP like they do Dragon Ball. The magazine won't die as it's basically Shueisha's R&D department; it's an incubator to create popular franchises that can be licensed out for more money.

[@murderman8578]

They number 1 due to those expectations

[@ma.2089]

They’re like the current American animation industry. Something doesn’t get popular within a week? Doesn’t reach the height of SpongeBob immediately? Cancel it! Except Shounen Jump has been like this for ages and the American industry has only become like this after execs stupidly believed that 2020’s streaming numbers were permanent fixtures going forward and not a result of COVID

[@ma.2089]

@@templarknight7 maybe they’d be more successful if it didn’t ruin their successes with the workload they give those mangaka and allow more variety so they’d have multiple successful series

[@G_Rez]

As someone who used to compete in local golf tournaments, and being the only person in my friendgroup that played, I love sharing Green Green Greens with friends. The story was moving along real well, and it truly felt like it had only gotten started by the time it wrapped up. To me, it was very special to share my experiences with golf with my friends through an approachable medium for them, and I'll always love Green Green Greens for that. Wish I coulda rode that high for longer, but such is life

[@MikoYotsuya292]

I have never heard of Green Green Greens until now. But I have watched Green Green before 🤔🤔

[@squabbbb]

​@@MikoYotsuya292Green Green Greens Green is a good introduction to the type of storytelling you can expect to see in Green Green Greens, which I think makes it a better jumping on point for Green Green fans

[@il3fortunato664]

There are a lot of new golf Anime like Birdie Wings, Tonbo or Rising Impact. You can share those series with friends that can treat the sport really well.

[@minkstar9021]

I was always afraid it wouldn't get the chance to spread its wings properly, sadly i was right. It was such a nice read, good characters, a cool casual pace, and some really expressive art considering the subject matter was very small scale.

[@dalblackrose5388]

The fact that Tenmaku Cinema was cancelled was a crime. I read that weekly for a few months until it ended, and I got SO invested into it. The characters, the story… Everything was amazing. And then I saw that it was axed… I’m still heartbroken about it to this day. And what’s worse is that we never even got the Epilogue chapter in English. I would kill to read it :(

[@jakey14344]

Unfortunately, Shonen execs think of profitability than interesting stories. Hence, Tenmaku Cinema got cancelled cuz low sales.

[@zzz43344]

Yeah

[@jaybeans981]

For the epilogue, Viz will eventually release the series in volumes. It’ll be there.

[@clydu91]

​Interesting stories that don't sell don't pay the electricity bill.

[@HaganeNoGijutsushi]

Tenmaku Cinema, Green Green Greens and Martial Master Asumi were all fantastic and I wish Jump could have simply knocked them down to the + app or something. They didn't deserve cancellation altogether.

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

I hear Samurai 8's exposition, and I can practically feel my brain melt out of my ears to escape.

[@youtube-kit9450]

I just am baffled Kishi thought it was a good idea to cram exposition that could've been given naturally over dozens of chapters into one chapter.

[@abiean222]

half way through it all just became noise.

[@arashimiyazawa8165]

I feel like Raid Shadow Legends is some sort of elaborate psyop because I have never once heard of anyone actually playing the game despite it being constantly advertised.

[@D0cSwiss]

Hell, no one even writes fanfic or does fanart of it, that's some serious levels of "no one cares about it"

[@Brianna-eo8nu]

Not to mention extremely little fanart or fanfics or… really any sizeable fandom. Especially compared to other popular Videogames.

[@PhoenicopterusR]

I'll be honest, I downloaded it to see if it could pass the time while I was in a deep post-break up sadness. There's a reason it exists solely to fund content creators, it's neither fun nor engaging in any capacity past "number go up" and "oohh shiny". I actually preferred laying in bed doing nothing over playing Raid Shadow Legends.

[@WC_553]

mother’s basement is yet another spineless sellout.

[@juannaym8488]

​@@PhoenicopterusRraid shadow legends is the video game equivalent of unseasoned gruel. It's the most substance and flavorless it can be

[@letsreadtextbook1687]

Is there anyone remember that in an early volume of naruto (forgot which one), there's a meta page that says that Kishimoto wanted to make a seinen-vibe mafia manga that would be titled "Mario" with unironically hardass looking guy in the concept art, after he'd finish Naruto? No? Yeah basically I wonder if he'd be better off doing that instead of wanting to replicate naruto success

[@Vesperitis]

You know what’s a manga that baffles me it got cancelled? Spider-Man Red. A literal Spider-Man manga couldn’t get enough readers, and it got cancelled after like 12 chapters. And it was a GREAT Spider-Man story, an exploration of the meaning of responsibility and the power of the Everyman, in a brand new way that had never been done before!

[@SomeRandomJackAss]

Don't worry, there's a new Spider-Man manga on the horizon! Spider-Man: Octo-Girl! A story about Doc Ock's mind mistakenly being transferred to a Japanese Schoolgirl's body. I wish I was joking.

[@senpainoticeme9675]

The problem is that it is published for Japanese viewers. The Japanese manga industry only caters and cares for what their domestic audience reads. It would be a different case if it was published for a world wide audience. This is why a lot of interesting mangas for people outside of Japan gets axed because the target demographic inside Japan finds it uninteresting. Until the Japanese manga industry changes how they view readership metrics, expect a lot more mangas to be canned.

[@Xick]

@@senpainoticeme9675 Yeah, but, isn't Japan weirdly crazy about Spider-Man?

[@senpainoticeme9675]

@@Xick idk about the younger demographics. And for what it is worth, spiderman IP belongs to Marvel, so most likely Japanese publishers see little benefit for them to promote it extensively. It all boils down to merchandise sales and Marvel would undoubtedly take a majority cut of the profits. Hardly an appealing proposition for Japanese publishers.

[@M.F.Hafizhan]

Fake Red was awesome, that burning building scene still gives me goosebumps even now

[@LaZodiac]

The ultimate tragedy of MMA's cancellation is that while it was going down the "I love to fight and get stronger" simple characterization route... it was doing something with that! Namely, that THIS IS THE REAL WORLD! The desire to fight and hurt people and get stronger and hurt more people is FREAK SHIT and one of the things our hero has to learn is how to enjoy the sport without becoming a sadist! That's so genuinely compelling for a series about one of if not the most violent combat sports!

[@argnator]

Ryuhei Tamura needs his own damn video at this point. Author of Beelzebub, one of 2000s era Jump's Big Hits - until they gave him 10 chapters to wrap it up. Then he kept rising back up only to get knocked down in what feels like a "why give him this much room just to force a rushed ending" ESPECIALLY with Cop and Dolphin. I'm just bitter because it seems like they don't understand what a good thing they had going. Beelzebub was like a more genre-savvy Gintama and it got raw-dealed in multiple ways almost spitefully.

[@cerulean1003]

at the very least it seems like hes found some success over at Shogakukan with Cosmos (which last i checked is doing pretty well) but yeah from what i know of his series they really fumbled all three of them

[@ShonenFlop]

Hardboiled is one of the best manga jump axed :(

[@Lyendith]

Hungry Marie was admittedly a mess though.

[@toddclawson2840]

I didn't realize cop and dolphin was made by the same guy who did Beelzebub. It makes sense now that you mentioned it. That one was a shame as I was really enjoying the absurdity of it.

[@ShonenFlop]

@@Lyendith Oh absolutely the author even said as such

[@theunknownsoldier04]

Hearing that Kishimoto's grand expenditure into giving women a more prominent role in his story is to make them a Wondrous Physick with boobs should shock me more than not at all.

[@muntu1221]

That's not even what happened. The concept of princesses wasn't even the end all be all of women in the story. The story got axed right after introducing a girl that was do powerful that she had powers before even becoming a samurai, the strongest human samurai in the universe is a woman, and one of the keys they hadn't been properly revealed yet was a woman.

[@TheRockerX]

​@@muntu1221too little too late, I guess

[@lilaculots]

"her special princess truffle hog powers" took me tf out

[@grinko1222]

The power to enchance someone else is really good. But why does someone with a supporting power inherently imply she's just an object?

[@kingkoolkattz]

good lord Samurai 8 is just soup of shonen ideas that have been done elsewhere and is so massively frontloaded rather than spread out, its both incomprehensibly detailed but tells a bunch of half baked ideas at the same time

[@SinHurr]

RIP Araki. He's not dead. I just hope he gets a good night's rest. It's good for his health.

[@SomeRandomJackAss]

The same goes for all mangaka, really. The stress of the job can lead one to an early grave, a la Kentaro Miura, leaving the world a worse place.

[@ashleightompkins3200]

Same to Oda. I'm genuinely worried about him.

[@aino-kaisav5504]

Don't try to cause people heart attacks!

[@goroakechi6126]

Can’t wait for the next JoJoLands chapter! Get that man a nice warm bed and as much tea or coffee as he wants!

[@RoxxieRaeVA]

"Kishimoto even manged to find an even lazier way to write women and relationships." I'm sorry W H A T

[@sovietcanuckistanian]

If shonen has taught me anything it’s that there’s always a higher power level.

[@pyrosianheir]

Yeeaaahhhhh... I was a big fan of Samurai 8, but the whole "Princess," thing was basically the worst part of the power set-up, since it was so hard-coded as "this is the Samurai's predestined love interest." Big big oof there.

[@MrGksarathy]

@@RoxxieRaeVA Yeah, it was bad. Seriously, Kishimoto might as well just write a BL manga for how bad he is at writing women. At least his art style in Naruto gave us tons of great waifus regardless. Ikemoto's art style for Boruto just doesn't vibe with me, except for Eida.

[@MrGksarathy]

@@RoxxieRaeVA Yeah, it was bad. Seriously, Kishimoto might as well just write a BL manga for how bad he is at writing women. At least his art style in Naruto gave us tons of great waifus regardless. Ikemoto's art style for Boruto just doesn't vibe with me, except for Eida.

[@aptalsandvic5355]

And the princess thing could've worked in the hands of a self aware writer. Explore how Samurais feel about this -basically arranged marriages-. Explore what the Princesses feel. Do they hate this? Is being a Princess a huge social status boost for a woman? Can people grow to love eachother when their relationship is this transactional? What if a princess absolutely hates her Samurai? What if the relationship is abusive? There is potential! Ugh.

[@ApexGale]

Most Shounen Jump manga fails because the sharks at the top are fishing for the next big thing to pull in numbers. I feel like every artist who has been serialized weekly in Jump has horror stories about it in later interviews

[@rondorock2563]

Yep, sharks feed.

[@goroakechi6126]

They’re holding onto their last big series by a thread, to be honest.

[@jacobwismer1512]

I was really rooting for Martial Master Asumi, but i guess the subject matter and family drama didnt resonate with the core demo

[@chrissolace]

Even then, it had a ton of action to couple along with it, great flow and technicality, and great art to boot. I really feel like they could’ve addressed the “show don’t tell” issues as well if they just had more time and a good editor. But alas… it was not the explosive new “big thing” so it got axed.

[@marocat4749]

Too, whats wit decently mixed between tones martial arts manga and being cancelled :( Was rooting too.

[@ShonenFlop]

It also sucks that the womans fight was arguably the best fight of the series and was near the end

[@Sneednfeedn]

I was genuinely heartbroken when it got axed.

[@olympusgolemoflight7198]

It ended right before the big bro fight. I was pissed.

[@2pppppppppppppp657]

I love the concept of these videos - giving promising series who died before their time proper eulogies, rather than letting them just die quietly and unceremoniously in the background

[@BenMarcWilliams]

I am _so_ happy that the section for Green Green Greens is titled, "No Relation to Kirby".

[@OnionKnightRises]

I could not pinpoint why I struggled reading Samurai 8, until one panel where I realized the artist was not taught about foreground and background well enough. I had such a problem locating the characters in that single panel with them walking through some kind of junkyard, the characters completely blending into the immense detail of said junkyard. Also Kishimoto definitely just wanted to get back into the groove of things and speed up the beginning, so it felt incredibly rushed and felt like we were just expected to like the characters. The main character's emotional journey through the first chapter with his dad did not have nearly as much heart as Naruto's story with Iruka at the very beginning of Naruto.

[@hollowshield2315]

Mike Tyson in his prime has no chance against a badass like me who's 100% completed Sekiro on hard mode

[@leithaziz2716]

Shaw!

[@northstarjakobs]

This video has finally taught me what OVA stands for (original video animation). Somehow, despite being an anime fan for years and a fan of this channel for most of that time, somehow I never learned what it actually stands for.

[@rainous1]

I thought it meant "anime music video" in middle school, because of old KZbin

[@Gloomdrake]

@@rainous1ova?

[@TheRockerX]

​@@rainous1how the hell would OVA stand for anime music video (AMV)?

[@leithaziz2716]

@@rainous1 I think you're reffering to AMVs, A Music Video.

[@ValkyrieTiara]

I'm STILL mad about Ayashimon getting cancelled.

[@liesureleeminis8268]

Same, I was positively hooked from the first chapter

[@argnator]

Never thought I'd see another Ayashimon enjoyer out in the wild.

[@dvast]

now im sad

[@marocat4749]

Yes, it gave me beelzebub vibes but better planned and right in the good stuff, and i am mad we didnt see them and the biker having more tiome to become friends and them having more adventures geting allies, giving room to breatth too and a more rounded pace for the characters to grow. like she is solid too and the other spirit. yess grrr

[@Graysett]

Somehow Geoff hit 4 manga that I'm never gonna get over being canceled in this video. Ayashimon, Green Green Greens, Martial Master Asumi, and Stealth Symphony. Pain.

[@AlexTenThousand]

Samurai 8 had a big issue: Kishimoto's writing is kinda.... meh. With Naruto, it was a different thing: it started out great, despite Kishimoto not really knowing what he was going to do with the story, yet as the power scaling and character building got out of hand, the quality started plummeting towards an event horizon, and as proven by Boruto's drop-off, most people stuck with it just to see how it would end, out some sort of masochistic commitment. 10 years ago, I made the comparison to experiencing the passing of a long-ill friend, feeling sadness because they are no more, yet also relief, knowing that they weren't suffering anymore. Samurai 8 is ALL of Naruto's late-stage writing issues, crammed into a new series.

[@saltyk9869]

I assume you're talking about the War Arc in particular. People love the Pain Arc, for example.

[@Sage447]

Kishimoto writhing is kinda meh? In shonen standard kishimoto is top tier. You have to realize mangaka is writing and drawing a chapter every week. Compared that to any other form of storytelling where the first drafts of a story can take months/years. Most Mangaka are good writers

[@AlexTenThousand]

@@saltyk9869 @Sage447 the point I was trying to make was that Kishimoto clearly tosses a billion ideas out, but he definitely needs an editor who will help him pick the viable ones. It's pretty clear with the last few arcs of Naruto, the entirety of Samurai 8 and Boruto that he's reached a point where the Shueisha big wigs are almost too scared to really assign an editor to him, and the only readers left are the ones obsessed with meaningless power scaling.

[@WC_553]

@@AlexTenThousand god you sound very obnoxious 💀💀💀 please stfu

[@GrandisArcanum]

Boruto is peak now

[@glenmunson]

Thanks for reminding me how "AI" hasn't ever made something worth putting in a video like this. Even if these are "bad," there is a story there about how gracefully to handle cancellation, how important it is to ask others for their perspective on your creative work, and a thousand others. Drawings are a conduit of feelings between author and reader, and computers don't feel anything.

[@LordArikado]

Funny you should say that. Apparently Eiken, the sloppiest of all the ecchi slop, recently got an official remake that uses AI art. It somehow manages to look even worse than the frequently-off-model original by looking like the first google image result for "manga". It's so sterile and lacks any artistic identity, in a manga who's selling point was busty girls breasting boobily.

[@GreySpectre610]

“MMA is a relatively recent sport” Pankration in Ancient Greece: “Am I a joke to you…?”

[@Painocus]

Honestly If I worked for Jump and my manga got cancelled before it even gets started I would not have the maturity to not pull a Go Nagai and have it end with the villians brutally murdering the entire main cast during what would seem like a normal fight before delivering a monologue directly to the audience about how hopes and dreams are worthless while the main character bleeds out on the ground. Yes even if it was a sports manga.

[@sajohnson09]

I'm not even gonna lie, I had plans to start samurai 8.... But then stopped paying attention and forgot the name of it and mixed it up with kajiu no 8... So for the longest time until I actually finished the anime of Kaiju no 8 I thought that was it thinking it did well enough to get animated... Then I was like, nah something ain't right.

[@ddjacksonjr97]

RIP Kyokuto Necromance, Shadow Eliminators, Phantom Seer, and Ayashimon. I was rooting for them so hard.

[@kingsleycy3450]

Everything about Samurai 8 sounds over complicated. A lot of successful veteran writers do this: they will tell a simple story in the most incomprehensible way possible

[@Lyendith]

It’s very weird how Samurai 8 feels like the awkward first attempt an inexperienced Kishimoto would have written before Naruto… only it was published afterwards. Like, chapter 1 alone is filled with literal beginner mistakes, it’s crazy. How the editor didn’t notice that the constant expo-dump completely killed the pacing and engagement is beyond me.

[@Darktusken]

i think that is precisely the issue, he got too confident and wasnt checked by editors , even demanded "patience" from readers, he got used to the idea that people would follow him no matter what he wrote like the the latter parts of naruto , he could at tat point afford it as a lot of readers were far too invested at that point to simply drop it and wanted to know how it would end no matter the quality , but here there was nothing to get invested in at the start and it got axed

[@cww2490]

Samurai 8 sounds like it could have been great if it slowed things down both story and power scaling wise. That insane summary of chapter 1 doesn't sound that crazy if it wasn't shoved into 1 chapter, but instead over 50-100 chapters. And by rushing the power levels of fights he speed runs the problems of the latter parts of Naruto into the first few chapters. For anyone who remembers chapter 1 of Naruto had a short introduction of the 9 tails battle in the leaf, Naruto doing a prank, Naruto being tricked into stealing a treasure, the reveal he has the 9 tails sealed inside him, learning his signature move and defeating a bad guy and being acknowledged as a Ninja. In all of that only 4 characters are shown. It flows perfectly and doesn't have any info dump sessions and doesn't escape the small episode of Naruto learning the big secret and becoming a offical Ninja. I swear if the author tried rewriting Naruto today he would reveal all the major characters of the first half in episode 1-2 and have Naruto immediately learn to use the 9 tails or Sage Mode. He would also tease the alien ninja freaks.

[@air1744]

He's trying to avoid the "Kaguya comes out of nowhere! There's no set up!" Situation. Problem is, he's doing it too hard lol.

[@ayhamahmad2277]

It was probably was going to be cancelled that why it was rushed don't forget how shonan manga quickly

[@khclupus]

Ryogo Narita’s style would never have fit within Jump’s style or like you said, the 19 pages of a weekly serial. At least Stealth Symphony failing gave us Dead Mount Death Play.

[@murderman8578]

Which 22 pgs monthly

[@berrim26]

I feel like this story catalyzed into Blood Blockade Battlefront

[@ivanbluecool]

We will see the next generation of manga dropped incoming. With mha and jjk rushed out the door they are already preparing for the next generation of fans

[@thaearthquake]

Gege genuinely shocked me with how he’s been handling JJK 😞

[@ivanbluecool]

@@thaearthquake honestly his world building is probably the worst of it all. Destorys it's own story by saying only Japan can make sorcerers or something. If mha said quirks only appear in Japan if you need a comparison

[@MegaDman16]

​@@ivanbluecool there are sorcerers outside of japan they're just rare also it's because of Tengens barriers that more sorcerers don't pop up.

[@ivanbluecool]

@@MegaDman16 and somehow nobody can replicate that to a smaller degree anywhere in the world. Not gonna fly there. Especially through science someone would have figured out something or some way to manage it. Heck we have sorcerers from other countries too. They could go to any spiritual spot and try someone out. It's not like yuji was that special or nobara who's a literal nobody.

[@Hawk7886]

​@@ivanbluecoolnah, there's nothing wrong with basing your story around one specific spot in the world. You just have to make it internally and externally consistent.

[@jstarstudios7110]

EPILEPSY WARNING: The segment "Kamen Rider's Bizarre Adventure" contains EXTREME white flashing lights that even gave me, non-epileptic myself, eyestrain! Use epilepsy warnings, dude, god dan!

[@GurrenLagann98]

L

[@HallowedKhaos91]

How about no?

[@Dancinglemon]

People get so upset when you (rightfully ask) for epilepsy warnings and I genuinely don’t know why. It’s such an easy and simple thing to add.

[@Silburific]

​@@Dancinglemonpeople are ableist, simple as that. They hate any concessions being made to anyone who isn't them, even if that concession doesn't affect them in any way.

[@jvever4904]

Hoping this comment gets more attention!

[@barbarrojaa.c.4761]

Someone loving on Ultimate Exorcist Kyoshi makes me happy. It feels a fresh take on a ver tired niche. I hope it can go the distance.

[@RiverdudeCovers]

I'm so sad about Green Green Greens ending, it was essentially the dream golf manga I always wanted. I hope it one day gets a continuation but I'm not gonna hold my breath

[@MrBoltstrike]

Your explanation of the samurai powers was so confusing it got my puppy to stop barking. Thanks.

[@tonyjoestar2632]

The ending of Resident Evil 5 is BASICALLY the ending to Battle Tendency

[@jerrodwendland]

It's been decades since I saw a trailer for the Baoh OVA on videotape, but I am still haunted by the slogan: [Announcer Voice]: It Lives in your Brain... And it Won't let you Die!!!

[@Sabshark]

...you made me cry for Tenmaku Cinema. I never even knew it existed. I don't even really like movies. And you made me cry for it.

[@GenZComicReviewer]

D.Gray - Man is the Manga that helped pioneered the exercise genre and recently had its 20th anniversary. Shueisha is its publisher also.

[@Nadia1989]

I miss D.Gray-Man. I read a lot of scanlations, and even managed to buy volumes 1 and 2 before running out of money.

[@rikospostmodernlife]

💪❔️

[@ghoulchan7525]

@@Nadia1989 it's still going to this day..

[@EvenstarSK]

But D.Gray-Man was never cancelled. It's just moved magazine a few times due to the Mangaka's health and rights issues. It's still ongoing on a quarterly basis. It is constantly forgotten though and I agree that not mentioning it in this video's exorcism section was a miss.

[@Yggdraseed]

You will now receive the honor of this being the video I watch while I eat my lunch because my ADHD makes me not be able to eat without watching something, you should be proud

[@mothersbasement]

That is the highest honour a KZbinr can receive

[@DNeonLamp]

I was really hoping to finally hear someone else's take on Ginka & Gluna. The only other time I've ever been surprised by the "the end" tag appearing at the end of a chapter was Phantom Seer, and I could understand that one in retrospect if not agree with it. Ginka & Gluna meanwhile I wasn't even aware could possibly be on the chopping block because my friends and I were talking weekly about its whimsical adventure through fantastical settings.

[@mothersbasement]

I wrote a section about ginka and gluna that had to be cut for time actually. Long story short, I think it’s a gorgeous manga but the plot didn’t really have enough in the way of structure or concrete goals to hold most readers’ attention and the magic system was a little *too* open ended to create engaging stories

[@DNeonLamp]

​​​@@mothersbasement I personally felt that the open ended magic system was mostly just making way for "One Punch Man but magic" to make their way through the world with enough to grip on to for their party of followers to evolve themselves, and the plot hook was more similar to Avatar the Last Airbender in providing eventual destinations that backdrop the great characters and fun adventure exploring the world. I really enjoyed how open it was because the ride to get wherever it was going was well worth it each chapter and let me be constantly surprised.

[@robertfaulkkner5508]

I was kinda glad when Samurai 8 wasn't covered in your last "Jump FAILS" video, but now my empathy is gone, I cannot WAIT to hear you tear this one eight different a-holes. I've also been putting off watching the Baoh OVA, so maybe this'll give me that push.

[@johndavidtibbetts7320]

You should watch it Baoh has a laser cannon :3

[@griffindault]

@@johndavidtibbetts7320 Baoh BREAK DARK THUNDER!!

[@Sage447]

Weird comment

[@WC_553]

@@Sage447 for some reason people think it’s cool to disrespect kishimoto and it’s been like for a while now

[@plstmb6000]

I feel the weekly/monthly release is one of the biggest Japanese comic obstacle: you have a good concept of a story from beginning till the end, but the real time reader's feedback and publisher involvement could drastically change your next step of writing the story and potentially alter your story, because you want to satisfy both the publisher and the readers.

[@saltyk9869]

To be fair, Shonen Jump plays around with the release schedule on some series. Boruto is a monthly release. Kaiju No 8 does one chapter a week for three weeks then a week off which usually just releases cover art of the previous chapters. It's not all weekly. Hell, they allowed Ruri Dragon to go on hiatus for a while and brought it back without a hiccup.

[@plstmb6000]

Yes, sometimes they experiment to give them some breathing room. But, the point is that unfinished story will probably be altered by audience's real time feedback, unlike other media (movies, western comic, novels) where usually they finish the product before the feedback comes in.

[@AZ-zz4kn]

@@saltyk9869I was surprised how long SJ allowed Ruri Dragon to go on hiatus, what was it almost 2 years? Glad to see it back tho

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

The biggest surprise from this video for me was that Blue Exorcist is still running. (And it's making me realise that Gothic Sports was probably cancelled. I always thought the final chapters were rushed.)

[@SoulTaker78]

New season of the anime starts in a couple weeks as well!

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

@@SoulTaker78 I bought a volume of it in like 2016, in my "Buy discounted manga online" phase, and never thought of it since, but thanks for the information.

[@hadesedits1501]

yeah i genuinely had no idea that was STILL ongoing

[@TwoPairSA]

Seeing stat screens and hearing the kid's gamer skillz make him a good fighter makes Samurai 8 sound like Kishimoto wanted to write an isekai but didn't want to pull the trigger and have the kid die first before sending him to the other magical world.

[@redkingrauri3769]

Baoh was an Araki story?! Wow. How could it have failed though? Baoh has a laser cannon!

[@bloatytoegaming246]

I thought Fabricant 100 was doing some interesting things until it was suddenly over after 36 chapters.

[@DrGandW]

God so many of these series I’m like, “oh god why can’t Jump just let them keep going in another form I hate this business model that chews up people’s coolest ideas”

[@Skimmer951]

Fabricant was so good it broke my heart to see it end so early.

[@saltyk9869]

I was a little surprised by that one.

[@ShonenFlop]

It had one of the best threaded needle endings of a cancelled manga luckily

[@akabaneolivia9550]

Same!

[@jackofdiamonds7303]

Some series that really made me sad when I heard of their cancellation were Two on Ice, MaMaYuYu, and Green Green Greens. Two on Ice and GGG were both character driven sports stories that captivated me in so little time, while MMYY’s concept was just so interesting it managed to offset the blandness of its characters. Edit: Since you brought it up, I need to talk about Shadow Eliminators. It felt like the most generic thing I’ve ever read, from the title, to the world, to the characters, just everything. It was kinda hilarious how basic the whole thing was.

[@Bighomie39]

I hope MMYY's author could land himself as half of an artist-writer duo, because if he's putting his pen and incredible paneling to a well-told story, he'd be unstoppable.

[@DrGandW]

You need a cool idea, a cool world, interesting characters, and hype IMMEDIATELY. It’s so unfair I genuinely want to just go read some other magazine with some freaking stability. It’s demoralizing.

[@murderman8578]

2 on ice didn't have the sauce and figure skating just doesn't fit the readership

[@murderman8578]

​@DrGandW Jump is Stable because,they only keep the ones that are selling

[@kakashiuchiha33]

Felt like MamaYuyu went away from its concept almost immediately. I don't know if the mom character just wasn't doing it for the readers, but without the Mama in Mamayuyu, what's the point really?

[@fanatica1338]

If you make another one of these could you maybe cover Beet the Vandel Buster? It holds a special place in my heart as one of the first manga I read

[@mothersbasement]

Sure! I’ll put it on the list

[@fanatica1338]

@@mothersbasement Actually I did just look it up and it turns out it did actually make a return a while ago and is currently ongoing so it might not count anymore lol. Still if you can find an excuse to talk about it, I would appreciate that.

[@daltonwilliams1723]

I remember that. Has a surprisingly dark opening arc. Reminded me a bit of rave master with the transforming weapon gimmick

[@0cedced]

i remember watching an anime of that way, god it's been so long

[@pippy6973]

as an MMA fan I really enjoyed Martial Master Asumi. I was bummed to see it get cancelled.

[@AeonKnigh432]

It's a shame Tenmaku Cinema ended so early, but at least we have Beat and Motion which is very different but does have a main character with a very similar (though much more adult) arc.

[@erok0809]

Beat and Motion is one of my favorites

[@purewhiteloverbizarrejelly]

Isekai, harem, and exorcist all need to have a tournament arc to see which genre is the most banal trope to plague anime and manga

[@murderman8578]

They keep buying them up and consume That's the market

[@Amuro1X]

It will forever bring me joy and satisfaction that Samurai 8 was a complete failure and Edens Zero got a full run of 33 Volumes. All while Mashima was doing 100 Years Quest on the side. I didn't even realize Samurai 8 wasn't drawn by Kishimoto. I guess that explains why the it was so fucking painful to look at.

[@ayhamahmad2277]

It has great ideas but if it was drawn by kishimoto and it was longer it could work just look at minato one shot it was great

[@northstarjakobs]

I literally said "ooo yippee" out loud when I refreshed KZbin and saw this upload.

[@RemniStrath]

I'll always remember what we could have had with more Psyren. That manga was so good and I really wish we could see an anime adaptation of it with a not so rushed ending.

[@jetblackangelX]

It's crazy that psyren never animated

[@Jetflash6999]

I would go nuts for an animated Psyren series with a slightly slowed pacing. You can really tell with that series that the editors said “step on the gas” at a certain point, then an obvious “finish ASAP” moment later. Even with those problems, it remains one of my all-time favorites.

[@karayura10]

Imagine Melchsee's being animated, gah

[@murderman8578]

​@@jetblackangelXbarely broke a 1 mil

[@andrewowens4421]

@@murderman8578 I think because, despite it having a very original story... it suffered from a lot of cliche tropes. It felt a lot like Bleach but not as detailed. Don't get me wrong, I love Psyren and I think it would have been awesome animated but it was just a bit _too_ by the books instead of willing to do something adventurous.

[@Yam_King]

I would really love for Jeff to take a look at what is probably the wildest cancelled Shounen Jump series, Agravity Boys. It is a weird space gag series that is incomprehensible and every week when it would come out I'd have to share panels with friends in the attempt to assure myself that I wasn't hallucinating

[@lrgogo1517]

...it'll do. Welcome back, _State of Shonen Jump_

[@mothersbasement]

I guess with my last two jump videos I kinda did make one of those huh

[@ivanbluecool]

Next video idea. "my favorite mangaka made another manga?" Since we see less famous manga from the Beelzebub. Nura rise of the yokai clan bleach etc mangaka and people should hear about it Heck dress up doll with Marin isn't the first manga they did either. I liked the stuff done before that became big.

[@Garrettheparrot]

Boy I blocked out more of Samurai 8 in my memory than I thought.

[@Night_Raptor_5991]

I'm here to make you remember again

[@chiyowee2721]

My most recent disappointment was with a cute Jump+ series called Moebana from 2022-2023. It wasn't the best thing in the world, but it resonated with me so I liked it a lot. Got cancelled RIGHT at the climax of the moment the entire series had been leading up to at that point, then the last chapter ended with a sudden timeskip and huge reveal shoved in at the end. I still haven't read the whole chapter so I can pretend it's still going on. rest in PEACE ah great video BTW !! always love learning more from ya

[@temple_of_juno]

Moebana was fantastic and cute, I was so disappointed when it just ended all of a sudden

[@chiyowee2721]

@@temple_of_juno Same here 😔 I'll miss it! I hope the mangaka gets the chance to make a longer running series

[@tres7351]

Thank you for addressing the exorcist oversaturation. I've been noticing those but didn't realize just how many there were geez.

[@GenericSoda]

I remember being REALLY excited for Stealth Symphony; I'm not just a fan of Baccano! and DRRR!!, but Yoichi Amano is one of my favorite unsung artists in Jump with a pretty decent body of work with cancelled series like Akaboshi and submitting a winning boss design for Mega Man 7 in Slash Man under his belt. I'm always rooting for him whenever he he gets a serialization, and hope one day he manages to land a hit. Also the reminders of Ayashimon and Phantom Seer were painful - Ayashimon moreso after finishing Jigokuraku, though Phantom Seer's uniquely grotesque art was a joy to read at the time. Phantom Seer's creator commented on Fujimoto's oneshots in a way that makes me think he has a good head on his shoulders. Excited to see what he does next.

[@kyobomusudv2249]

Green Green Green was the first cancellation that truly hurt me (Tenmaku came close). It was such a delightful read, a uniquely contemplative sports manga that fit the primarily self-challenging sport it was based on. The panel of the main character utilizing himself as the ideal to score the final shot is burned into my brain forever.

[@Sandshrew282]

YEAH BAOH MY BOI BAOH WOO HOO I adore the Baoh manga, and this is the first I'm hearing of it having an OVA! Thanks for bringing the OVA to my attention, I'll be sure to check it out! And I can't believe I didn't make the connection to Kamen Rider before... as a superfan of both, I should have realized part of why I love them both so much is they have so much in common! Also as a fun fact: the Kamen Rider airing at the same time as Baoh was in publication was Kamen Rider ZX, who only has a movie and a manga tie-in rather than a full season. Just like Baoh, the series was canceled before it could get off the ground.

[@kittenwishstar]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Make The Exorcist Fall In Love for your exorcist section! It's an underrated j+ manga but it does insanely well in its characters, story beats, and overall tragedy

[@Yixdy]

Somehow i watched the Baoh OVA without knowing it was Araki, but in hindsight it makes total sense now

[@cynxmanga]

What I'm getting from this video mostly is that all the canceled works STILL had insane art quality and this really tells something. If someone dreams of even having any chance of at least having their oneshot published by Shonen Jump, ar least once, their art quality and paneling has to be absolutely top notch - and even then, the best they can ever hope for is being featured for one week and be seen by the Japanese readers as some short, little, forgettable curio among their usual content. The bar is sooo insanely high... Edit: it's nice that you mentioned NoName. The writer is from my country and I'm very proud of his achievement. He and his artist managed to do smth almost impossible for Western creators.

[@borby4584]

Another fun note is that the term for Baoh's transformation (Armed Phenomenon) was also used in Megaman Zero for the Four Guardians' big machine transformations, and later in Azure Striker Gunvolt for the transformation that all the bosses do before you fight them. So someone at Capcom and Inti Creates was definitely a fan

[@griffindault]

Is that Baoh in the thumbnail?!?! Love me some Baoh especially when he gets a laser cannon

[@SquipperPines]

D.Gray-Man is also still running in Jump SQ.Rise, so add that to the exorcism club

[@markthetopfabricator6047]

It made me sad that Martial Master Asumi got caned😢, i would have loved a big time MMA manga in shonen jump.

[@Oops-All-Ghosts]

I'm gonna be honest I didn't even realize Tenmaku was cancelled. I thought that was just the actual endpoint they were going for.

[@yasumedia9528]

Thank you for talking about Martial Master Asumi! Criminally underrated.

[@BlurryHeart15]

MaMaYuYu, Green Green Greens, MMA, and Tenmaku Cinema getting canceled were such a shame. I REALLY enjoyed those Manga and when they suddenly ended I was super sad

[@ReapsVsTheWorld1]

You perfectly articulated why I gave up on Samurai 8. I remember reading it when it debuted and I was so overwhelmed but I couldn't put my finger on it. I just couldn't grasp what was going on while reading it. Glad I wasn't the only one.

[@Addlexx]

Hey I just feel like throwing in another Shueisha/MangaPlus exorcist manga that's still ongoing and I like: Make the Exorcist Fall in Love. Yeah the title isn't that great, but it's hitting a topic I didn't expect a manga to hit: Christian guilt.

[@baechat]

“Wow, that sounds so cool, gotta add that to my TBR” I think once again, three seconds before remembering for the nth time that every series listed here has suffered an untimely demise

[@KRDiStort]

Aside from the ones you mentioned at the start, in the video itself, and in the last video, here's a roundup of every axed Jump manga I had actively been reading: ByeByeBye, Set it and Forget it, Skeleton Double, Witch Enforcer, MamaYuyu, The Pension Life Vampire, Diasporaiser (though that might've just been a mini-series, not an actual cancellation), Service Wars, The Ichinose Family's Deadly Sins, Ghostbuster Osamu, Do Retry, Fabricant 100, The Kajiki Chef, and Ginka and Gluna. Let me stress, this is only the stuff I had been actively reading, not accounting for a shitload of other stuff that I either wasn't interested in or dropped prematurely. Something you quickly learn when you start reading Jump regularly: nobody is truly safe from the axe.

[@saltyk9869]

Fabricant 100 and Ginka and Gluna surprised me when they got cancelled. Do Retry not so much.

[@catantcha99]

I also really liked Ghostbuster osamu but it seems like most people didn't even know it existed

[@Only2late]

Man, am I happy to hear Green Green Greens being mentioned. I literally got chills when he was crawling through his memories and realized a shot he'd made before was the most optimal. It was really good and I'm sad it ended.

[@chloeligma3883]

One thing for me about why Martial Master Asumi would have failed is that the story kind of introduces Asumi as already being an expert in grappling which is much more difficult to communicate visually when compared to striking. This ended up making a lot of the depictions of grappling seem kind of out of touch as the characters all treat something like mount as if It's super high level and mind-blowing when really it's kind of the first thing most people do when they're trying to hit you while you're both on the ground but because asumi is supposed to be already experienced in grappling It preemptively closes off the opportunity for the audience to learn more intricate things alongside him while also making it hard for people who would already be interested in MMA to take an interest in the fights because the fights are mostly just characters talking about really basic techniques as if they're super advanced and unbeatable. So ultimately, I don't think the issue was that MMA is too broad but that much of the manga felt like it was being written by somebody just didn't have much experience with MMA or at the very least couldn't communicate that knowledge in the way that you would expect a sports manga to

[@a.dackee9737]

Samurai 8 has a special hatred in my heart cause god damn i genuinely couldnt understand or see what tf was happening while reading this back in highschool

[@rjjm88]

I absolutely love how varied your tastes are. I've been exposed to so much anime I never would have watched because you talk about JJK, Kaguya-Sama, My Deer Friend, Frieren, and Konosuba all with the same passion and enthusiasm. Thanks for continuing to bring us your thoughts and opinions. ♥

[@meikaishi]

Man those videos leave such a bittersweet taste in my mouth, getting to know some potentially great mangas but the catch is that they're all dead

[@mep15067]

Samurai 8 is a pall on my soul because I actually like the lore set up for the story and unironically love the art style and designs. But knowing how it turns out just curses me, I was actively cursing when I had to read the lore justifications for princesses. Like I get samurai have to have a lord to serve, and there was a bit of set up to imply that the "princess" role was not necessarily always having to be a female role or one necessitating submission and weakness. But Its such a bad foot to start on especially after what he did in ALL OF NARUTO

[@muntu1221]

One of the first characters we see is a female samurai, who is the most powerful hero in the story. Interpreting princesses as built in misogyny for male heroes is a bad faith criticism.

[@mep15067]

@@muntu1221 I didn't mention that samurai had to be female, I get the point your making but that part seems not well thought out or related to the topic i mentiones since im talking about *princesses*. Though One of the things I actually liked about the way the world was set up was that gender roles and presentations were very loose at least for samurai, with a gender ambiguous character being set up as a friendly rival and surprisingly progressive message about said topic in the early chapters, but the clear description of a princess in the setting is the role of a person who exists to give a samurai strength and reason to fight to be protected irrespective of the samurais goals or motives before or after becoming a samurai. perhaps if the story had proper time to mature and expand on this it could've been clarified but my point is that the role of princess in the story is *inherently* objectifiyng and predicates itself on a dependency on a samurai. And is therefore misogynistic due to the overwhelming representation we have in how all the princesses we see are female. All the character building we see never seems to tangibly address this fact even if kishimoto tries to establish unique angles and opinions of the characters in the story who *are* princesses, their function is going to be to provide the samurai strength or further character development, a criticism thats existed for kishimotos work for decades now, in that the purpose of the woman in this scenario is to further the arc of the main character and nothing else, even if the Mc was female to begin with it would still be considered an example of this criticism

[@muntu1221]

@mep15067 I don't think you can really apply this as a criticism in a hypothetical scenario where the leaf samurai is a woman, because it's not at all the issue that was the case with Naruto. Also, presenting a scenario where a character can experience objectification is not an indication of misogyny in the writing. The point of princesses as a narrative device was to introduce a dichotomy to be challenged by the cast. A lot of characters we meet live under the assumption that boys become samurai and the closest girl to them becomes their princess. This is challenged by the narrative as a backward, ignorant assumption. Anne has an arc that begins with her having to address this being the basis for her choosing to be a princess. The story ends with her implied to have chosen to be both a princess and a bushi. One of the themes of the story was that perception can be both true and incomplete. Hachimaru says he's a samurai, but he's also still the scrawny toothpick he started as. This was likely to address how in many pieces of media, characters will be cured of disabilities. But Hachimaru learned to embrace that he was still technically disabled. Anne is shown throughout the story to be extremely brave, just like a samurai. When any boy she's friends with is in danger, she doesn't pray. She jumps in front of them or tries to fight. This directly contrasts with the stated role of princesses. Also, we learn from another samurai duo that many, many princesses just straight up dip on their samurai who get too presumptuous about their dynamic. Daruma also explains that samrai are not _the_ important aspect of the trinity. They're part of a team, and learning that the princess has an active and important role isn't just for learning lessons. The samurai is there to assist her as well, and not everything is about fighting. I get what you're saying, but the story implies and shows us that not only is the universe not just focused on combat, but the princesses we meet may not even remain damsels. Princesses are also choosing it as their job, which is directly counter to the idea that it's objectifying. What I mean is that they are entirely capable of choosing to be samurai, and we see with Ichigo that the exact types of gifts that would make a girl a great princess could also make them an extremely powerful samurai. The issue in Naruto wasn't that many healers were women. It was that the women who _did_ exist had extremely shallow arcs, or they were sidelined or reduced to being very dumb because they were boy crazy. It didn't help that Naruto ended up making the entire world operate on who can punch the hardest, and all the women who could objectively punch harder than their male counterparts were skipped over for the EOS buffs. I can't say Kishimoto wouldn't end up making the same mistakes, but when he starts the story with this world's Hashirama being a woman, and he peppers the story dismantling a misogynistic system, and he ultimately ends it with the female support character putting on a katana in order to lead a team to save the galaxy, I can't simply say that the story is still suffering from the same issues as Naruto. Especially when he actively subverts traits from old characters, like making Anne just actually have a stutter she inherited from. Her brother teaching her broken language instead of her being shy and timid.

[@ayhamahmad2277]

​It has great ideas but get cancelled instantly if it was longer it could work like 5 or 15 isn't enough just @@muntu1221

[@10puppyluv]

I was listening to this while doing chores and i had to stop multiple times to just confusedly stare at the screen as you explained the plot of Samurai 8

[@samuelmelendez7566]

I can't believe I'm this early, also I remember Baoh because of JJBA All Star Battle

[@ivanbluecool]

Word of advice for people in This gen of manga. Don't be "that" person that acts like your series is be all end all. Compare to worst herione when your girl does something cool once(then dropped off the face of the world) since eventually it will get old and fade into the abyss and you'll become the old one talking to the next gen fans. Be respectful and be responsible and be open to the next series Aside one piece that thing will never end at this rate

[@demitrinarrow]

Dude I was so mad to find out Stealth Symphony got cancelled! The characters were fun, and the art was "chef kiss*

[@deykuzor]

Add D. Gray-Man to the exorcist adjacent list. It's ongoing but every 3 months now.

[@toddclawson2840]

It is still going? I remember the author going on a long hiatus, but I thought it would have either finished or been canceled by now. Man I remember watching the show as a teen and then switching to the manga when it stopped. Liked it quite a bit, but it went in weird directions and I eventually lost interest.

[@Ammy-q4w]

@@toddclawson2840 It's still going. I recommend re-readding the manga and catching up. The current chapters are crazy, and the mangaka's art is very beautiful, so it's definitely worth your time.