Anime’s Most Tragic Downgrades

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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love You and your work man🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

[@Sonicfalcon16]

I jungle de iku in this list?

[@FGBFGB-vt7tc]

Rant all you want man. Your reviews made me avoid Anime train-wrecks before and recommended me gems, like "A Place Further than the Universe".

[@wintremourn]

isnt this the one that copied spin rhythm and shoved it into their game?

[@marocat4749]

When reading erserk, it starts rough and a bit over the top edgy, and emm grape. Withthe point him being at his lowest but ,em a bit edgy graphic, with a poit tou a, and it can be very wholestome still. And dark humor.

[@crazysicko47]

I remember in season 2 of FLCL when one character looks straight at the camera and says something like "you can never recreate a cherished moment, and trying to is just chasing nostalgia." It felt strangely self-aware.

[@anthonynorman7545]

I thought the show was going to turn amazing when they said that. Then it became a point of absolute seething anger when I watched the show a second time to see if I missed something.

[@gabrielgomes4228]

I still can't grasp anime having "seasons". I kinda stopped following new anime some years ago, but when I was more of an enthusiast every anime was either this one block of episodes that told a complete story or had sequels, but those where treated like new shows. A series having seasons is for me a western concept. I just had to say that. Now, about FLCL, it really didn't need any sequels. It was this unique piece of art, this experimental crazy thing. You don't replicate that. Maybe they added that self-aware part exactly to control the damage of it not being as good as the original. Not that it worked, though.

[@stevenharper9108]

The only time FLCL should have had a sequel should have been right after season 1. But it didn’t… and the second and third season are both bad.

[@doctordoom85]

@@gabrielgomes4228 I mean, you must have stopped watching anime a LONG time ago to find it odd that anime get follow up seasons. Even the 2000’s had sequel seasons, like Code Geass, Haruhi Suzumiya, Gundam 00, Full Metal Panic and School Rumble. Even some shows older than that did like Slayers (yes, Slayers didn’t call them “seasons”, but it’s the exact same thing). Even if anime does have more follow up seasons these days, it’s definitely never been a foreign concept to the medium.

[@FFKonoko]

​@doctordoom85 yeah, I'm assuming he means his frame of reference is the dragonball z era. Even back then there were 12 ep runs, but not televised over here, more once things like disc releases caught on.

[@rd0676]

I just wish The Promised Neverland had gotten a 2nd season

[@SenkoisWatchingYoutube]

What second season?

[@joshuagregoire9504]

They did

[@justaninkling]

There is no season 2 in ba sing se

[@emirulin5323]

I know man, I remember binging half of it in an entire day. It _slapped,_ I wonder why they dropped it...

[@jakariashafin1695]

Good thing I didn't see season 1 to begin with.

[@GoddoDoggo]

Honestly, "The children of Inuyasha, Kagome, Sesshomaru, and other characters are magical girls fighting demons in modern day Tokyo in order to save their parents" is a fantastic idea that should have been one singular movie _and nothing else._

[@colonelmustang854]

I dropped out when they decided it was a good idea to have it be canon that Sesshomaru f**ked his adopted daughter Rin and had a kid with her. Twice. They brought David Kaye back after he was absent from The Final Act, only to 7 Deadly Sins-ify his character. Real nice.

[@LoverOfSesshy]

​@@colonelmustang854 i knoooow. Such a huge fan of InuYasha and was so hype for Yashahime. Like you, i was completely disgusted by the Rin and Sesshoumaru angle. Now I just say final act was the end haha.

[@LaCabraAsada]

I just wish the story was a bit more centered (and that Sesshomaru hadn't fucked Rin ofcourse). Literally for half the series Setsuna had no motivation to deal with Towa's bs. And half way through, Sesshomaru just decides to release Setsuna from her curse which was LITERALLY THE MOTIVATION OF THE MCs. But now I guess they have to go save Rin now that the curse was lifted and-- oh, look at that, the problem was solved in like two episodes. It felt like they were just throwing plot points at the wall hoping something would stick and make a coherent narrative. Overall, *Moroha is still best girl.*

[@LaCabraAsada]

​@@colonelmustang854 I always found the way this cold, harsh, beast adopted this small girl as if she were his kid to be really cute. It's kind of ruined for me by the sequel. If they needed a love interest for Sesshoumaru, they could've jist brought back Kagura as a human with some weird bs magic.

[@andrewb6194]

Sesshomaru and Rin getting together is like Piccolo and Gohan getting together Something that should only exist in bad fanfiction

[@HeisenbergFam]

"to enjoy anime is to doom oneself to a life of quiet, yet constant disappointment" Bro is truly the Socrates of 21st century

[@slartymcguarty2954]

Basement is one eloquent fellow

[@cadethumann8605]

"Keep your expectations low, and you'll never be disappointed" - Kratos. I'd also advise holding off from watching a series, movie, or any piece of entertainment until positive word of mouth comes out. Sure helped save me a lot of money, time, and emotional health.

[@bakasta5992]

Nut sock-rates

[@Jayfive276]

So you just take something from the first minute of the video to get your comment in quick then? Boring one trick pony yet people fall over themselves to congratulate him.

[@Flinch9000]

@@Jayfive276Yep. No way he’s a real person. He’s a bot.

[@Hugelag]

The second you said "Planet Sheen," I understood your pain. That is an experience nobody should have to go through.

[@eatatjoes6751]

AaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

[@byronrush9802]

​@@eatatjoes6751so much rage I cannot quantify how much I wanted to burn the world that day we got this piece of s*** instead of continuing Jimmy neutron

[@brandonlego]

Planet Sheen was one of those shows as to why does it exist? Jimmy Neutron was a Great show and it was just as popular as SpongeBob, Danny Phantom, and the Fairy Oddparents which also suffered from issues of why it just keep continuing over & over again while SpongeBob is getting spinoffs which people were also not interested in. It felt like such a Nothing show that had nothing to do with Jimmy Neutron

[@alysskuriyama5538]

I'm honestly shocked that you didn't mention the baby in The Devil is A Part-Timer Season 2. I saw people commenting while the season was airing that adding that child was like when sitcoms add a new baby character in a ratings stunt and I honestly have to agree. She's largely there to force Emi and Mao to interact in a civil manner and that's one of my least favorite tropes in romance plots.

[@maybelijah]

Me personally I love that baby idk about the rest of yall

[@lynntaylor9681]

Same. I don't like the second season as much as the first only because of the baby. I think it's annoying.

[@rueblie2627]

The baby did happen in the light novel so there wasn’t much the anime could do about that if they wanted to keep following the story.

[@depthsparade]

the art style was the biggest loss to me, since the baby was originally part of the series i feel like she'd be tolerable if the anime maintained its unique style

[@TheSlipperyNUwUdle]

@@depthsparadethe strangest thing to me is how much younger the main character looks in the newer artstyle…? Like, maybe it’s just me, but I find it unsettling lol

[@alicethemad1613]

Honestly the way things just happen with little to no explanation in FLCL and rely mostly on vibes or vague symbolism to understand is part of the point, in my opinion. You’re really there, WITH Naota, not knowing any more than he does and being just as overwhelmed and confused and frustrated as he is (and as Mamimi is). Anything that tries to codify a “power system” or clarify backstories kind of ruins the entire idea of it. FLCL isn’t about the giant robots or alien girls or planet eating corporations, it’s just about how much it sucks to be between kid and adult, how pointless life can feel, how hard it is to express these intangible exploding emotions, how poverty and abuse makes your relationships to other people unstable, etc.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

For that reason I liked the 3rd season the best

[@simopen]

You understand exactly

[@stoops187]

It was the punkest show I had ever seen, in every essence of the word. Loved the original, but alternative and progressive were just wastes of time..

[@DeviBuster]

I love flcl so much, it's genuinely one of the best series I've seen

[@77mcmarine]

I set myself up for success by 1. Always assuming there will be no 2nd season 2. 2nd will suck. 3. Being drunk on first watch of it. 4. Crying in the corner

[@stoops187]

Same

[@vxicepickxv]

Have ADHD and watch one episode of one show a week. Never get to season 2.

[@Hawk21480]

"It really sucks to have a piece of art that you love turned against you." Yeah, trying being a fan of Transformers since 1984. I feel that.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Literally 1984

[@eatatjoes6751]

Me with whatever the hell they did to Kim Possible.

[@warangelcpgamebreak]

I knew from the trailer they messed up Beast Wars. Beast wars is self contained. Why do you need to have to Optimus primes in one movie?

[@Future_Vantas]

The IDW Transformers comics are very very good. That and Beast Wars is how I got into Transformers.

[@SinHurr]

We'll always have the one, perfect movie, which came out in 1986.

[@maleiaty]

That sound balance for the mic-peeaking joke was 100%. Whoever managed that edit just showed up every single sound engineer in all of entertainment.

[@morganqorishchi8181]

Geoff: "No one saw Rin and Sesshomaru coming." My mom, a psychologist: "I did. A *lot* of people fantasize about a rich older person who can protect them from harm and lift them out of financial instability coming along and they [Rin/Sesshomaru] were already that. It's why 50 Shades of Grey was popular, except this is healthier." Me, my mind breaking as I realize she's not wrong but good lord do I want her to be: "...watching these vids with you is always an experience, Mom." (Yes, she watched Inuyasha back in the day. Multiple patients of hers recommended it and it was easily accessible. That, Gundam Wing and Chobits (her most hated anime of all time) were her pre-Geoff anime experiences. Post-Geoff she now has substantially more shows under her belt, though her hatred for Chobits continues and remains unrivaled.)

[@DKNguyen3.1415]

I refuse to accept this.

[@mothersbasement]

…Don’t tell your mom but I watched Chobits as a teenage boy and therefore like it quite a lot

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

Her anime experience must be very limited because chobits is nowhere near the worst.

[@essneyallen6777]

@@mothersbasement I read Chobits as a teenage girl (glowingly recommended by a male friend) and the depth of my contempt is immeasurable (I mean, contempt for Chobits, not its readers)

[@KrytenKoro]

Another former teenage boy who hated it here.

[@esotericauthor]

Is it possible to wish something remained dead... before the first season even finished? Wonder Egg Priority was something beautiful and meaningful and heartfelt and after a point it just... stops being those things.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Wonder egg priority: *sisterhood*

[@GirtheAlienGoldfish]

Wonder Egg started off so cool and interesting and beautiful and then it devolved into one of the biggest attempts to destroy your soul ever. As if Madoka Magica didn't already break us.

[@IT.93]

Unpopular Opinion: OPM season 2 was far from being bad.

[@Gloomdrake]

Narratively, sure, it was even better, but as an anime it kinda lives or dies by it’s animation quality, and the animation quality of season 2 is only industry standard, not outstanding

[@bravado2809]

And far from being as good as season 1. Maybe it doesn't deserve the hate but it doesn't make me like it.

[@IT.93]

@@Gloomdrake i disagree that the animation quality of the second season was just "industry standard". Yes it was no where near the quality of the first season but it was still really good most parts.

[@Gloomdrake]

@@IT.93 survivorship bias on my part. I forgot that I don’t watch the poorly animated anime as often

[@yuuichi4356]

I totally agree with you.

[@ThePandaProcrastinates]

Don't forget the Cowboy Bebop Movie was an example of expanding the series the right way. It just felt like a really long episode.

[@makeanimegreatagain4482]

As all things should be.

[@kadosho02]

Plus it was a masterpiece, and that soundtrack, so good.

[@CrowTRobot]

But more than just a long episode, it felt cinematic and had a bigger scale. Great compliment to the series.

[@Indeeee]

Love that movie

[@ovalteen4404]

A lot of anime movies just look like longer episodes. It's just a shame that in many cases, the episode is really boring (accusing stare at Inuyasha). Seems like in most cases, the budget is all sunk into the animation itself and none into the story.

[@PineappleLiar]

My most powerful ability is my complete lack of concern about needing to finish a story I start. If things start going south I have no sunk cost inclinations towards sticking it out until the end. Fun fact: 99 times out of 100 is a show/manga has entered a death spiral, it’s not gonna get better. Just enjoy what you got, imagine a better ending and read fanfiction if the blue balls ar ereally bad.

[@cluesagi]

God please let the new Spice and Wolf reboot not suck

[@mothersbasement]

I trust in Kevin Penkin

[@light819]

i think it is less a reboot and more a Fullmetal alchemist brotherhood where it tries to correct any discrepancies from the original and then adapt the rest of the material, I hope we get to see a homage to that horse though

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@light819I just hope that they put as much effort into the previously adapted material as I’m kinda sick of remakes rushing the beginnings which makes the adaptations feel incomplete.

[@Charok1]

Reboot??? oh that does not sound good. At least Konosuba is back.

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@Charok1 hasn’t it been like 15 years? The animation from the 2000s is so different than it is now. It would be jarring to have it be a sequel.

[@katelynpringle5506]

All of us will be bitter about the second season of The Promised Neverland until our dying breath.

[@Bloodglas]

all of us except for all the people still reusing the lame "season 2 doesn't exist" joke.

[@jaredarenas7542]

Until they decide to create a reboot that properly adapts the manga, and title it "The Promised Neverland: Motherhood"

[@reezwave]

​@@Bloodglaswhat's lame about that? They're the same side with us

[@Bloodglas]

@@reezwave it's lame because it's an overused joke. either that or they're not joking and are actually in denial. just accept that it exists and is trash, that way you can properly be wary of any future projects by the people that made TPN s2. if it doesn't exist we have no reason to dislike the people that made it since they didn't ruin the anime, right?

[@344shadowking]

For real, ir was such an amazing 1st season and then they 💩 all over it with season 2

[@gentlemandemon]

You really nailed what felt off to me about Yasahime. I went in tentatively excited, but the plot devolved so quickly into excuses about why the parents couldn't be involved in the story. It truly felt like filler, almost from the get-go, and I ended up up dropping it really quick. At least moving the primary action of the series from the Sengoku era to modern Tokyo would've been an idea to build off from.

[@tyrant-den884]

the painful part is that the handful of times they did progress relations from the first show, like the five minutes they get to spend with their parents at the very end, or when Moroha has to help out the tanuki kingdom: its good. Everything else is mediocre. made worse by there being character episodes which are treated the same as any filler episode.

[@pills-]

What's weird is my favorite episodes from the original Inuyasha were the filler ones where Inuyasha visited modern Tokyo. So when they started there in Yasahime, i was interested. But then they went back in time...

[@Morpheus.897]

I had finished Yashahime 3 years ago, after that There was nothing, the show just kind of stopped, there was no buildup no tension, the only thing I could vaguely remember about the plot has had the most relevancy was Inuyasha and Kagome being trapped, or lost in some kind of dimension like the fucking Twilight Zone Kinimaru is just a non-existent villain that IS implied to be the main characters teacher in modern Japan, but that doesn't really go into main plot territory because every episode is too focused on tying loose ends on the entire Kagome/Innyasha missing subplot which is more like a REALLY long Side Mission that almost never fucking ends, and its nothing but loose ends and ambiguity around lore and worldbuilding because at the end of the day, its nothing more then a modified story of the original, trying desperately to claw unto you just to GIVE you a sense of nostalgia, but fails in the end.

[@HeyLeFay]

Like the kids being trapped in the future and trying to go home to their parents would've been a decent enough motivating factor.

[@jackkatz8604]

The original Digimom felt like everyone had a part to play, and they all meaningfully changed along the way. The new version made it feel like if a character wasn't Tai or Agumon, they would be a static wallflower if they're lucky.

[@Ryan-qr3xg]

Another difference between og and current is that the rest of the team get their mega digimon that was only reserved for the games.

[@cadekachelmeier7251]

The first 3 episodes are a good standalone arc at least. And I at least think Mimi is pretty great in the new series, so I think going through and watching all the Mimi based episodes is worth it. But most of the cast ended up with really bland personalities. And they barely had any team conflicts because they were mostly just letting the plot carry them along.

[@DMurphysLore]

Throughout Digimon 2020 I was just ... hoping that it'd hit the moment where it would get good, and capture some of that great character-building, ensemble cast work, and social commentary of the first series, and it just never did.

[@maki55556]

you get it

[@notthegreenranger3726]

Loved loved loved digimon season, but season 3 was leagues above it.

[@slartymcguarty2954]

When your favorite anime is brought back, but they did it with Ra'as Al Ghul's Lazarus Pit so it's all fucked up

[@SuperSamZero69]

Accurate 😭😩

[@thescumgod658]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@charlesbaldwin3166]

Or worse buried in the pet cemetery out back.

[@Not_DIO_1]

Couldn't have said it better

[@CantRead1]

The anime that went "Red Hood" on our asses.

[@ashamatronichow2226]

Can’t tell you how ECSTATIC I am that you mentioned Yashahime, the original was one of my first and favorites and I just ended up bored and disappointed for ANYTHING outside of the interactions between Inuyasha, Kagome and Moroha which I’d probably be disappointed in too because of how clunky they are if I hadn’t shipped Kagome and Inuyasha so hard back in the day. I’d absolutely eat up a whole roast of Yashahime if it were served

[@riemaennchen]

You know the Skullgreymon moment in the Original Digimon is a good one when Saturo Gojo himself references it.

[@Jeal0usJelly]

Saturo 🤯💀

[@jakey14344]

Funny since Geto is voiced by WarGreymon in English.

[@RuneKatashima]

@@jakey14344 WarGreymon the goat

[@edwardsimpson119]

The Devil is a Part-Timer season 2 coming out finally got me to get around to watching The Devil is a Part-Timer season 1, so SOME good came out of it.

[@heahterranier6926]

I only watched Devil is a Part-Timer 5 years ago, so my disappointment wasn't as crushing as if I'd waited the whole decade. Still stings though~

[@Serrot304]

watching the original and then seeing the second seasons downgrade of quality was heartbreaking especially since the studio has put out some great stuff as well

[@RyuLightorb]

Atleast it was only an animation downgrade and not a story downgrade

[@nagatodan]

​@@RyuLightorbI agree on that, it did throw me off with the animation quality but the story pulls me back into it

[@nagatodan]

​@@Serrot304nothing beats the first season, it was hyped and delivered all around, it's top

[@TeamSoraPresents]

Execs: "You used to love this series!" Fans: "Yes, we did, the first time. You need to get some new material." Execs: "Or maybe you need to forget our old material!"

[@ThePlayerWithPaws]

I'm glad Digimon is on this list. Hell, Jujutsu Kaisen just used the Skullgreymon bit as an analogy.

[@344shadowking]

Skull greymon was nostalgic, was one of the most epic episodes, how can they just scrap it like it never existed

[@elemomnialpha]

​@@344shadowkingthey didn't actually they pushed it till later

[@V-Jes]

@@344shadowking By making it even more epic with an even better Digimon later on.

[@KrytenKoro]

​@@V-Jeseh...it missed the point, honestly.

[@ireysword]

I've never seen a fandom abort themselves so quickly and unanimously as the yashahime fandom on tumblr. When a new episode came out it was always trending so I took a look and was like "huh. So Seshomaru does fuck.". But when it was revealed that not only Rin was the mother but that she had been 14! Boy! It was one big explosion and then silence. Barely any posts about the following episodes. They did not like that. Rightfully so.

[@WobblesandBean]

Japan is the reason I fell out of love with anime. So many "wtf Japan" moments involving sexualizing little girls.

[@byronrush9802]

Yep I guessed that from the early episodes I was joking with a friend about it then I stopped watching before the reveal I was watching different animes at the time

[@shani4688]

That reveal became such a hot button issue in one of my anime groups that the mods essentially banned anyone from making posts about it from then on. 😬😬😬

[@hypothalapotamus5293]

Me seeing opening: It's not the anime they wanted. It's the anime they deserved.

[@mariuspoppFM]

😂😂😂

[@ryanchase9332]

FLCL Season 2 did give us Kari Wahlgren being able to go absolutely nuts with her favorite character she's ever voiced, and deserves a place in this world for that alone.

[@LittleGreenSoldier]

The only part of Yashahime that really matters at all to me is Moroha reuniting with her parents. Specifically how Inuyasha doesn't know what to do until he's literally shoved into it by Kagome, at which point he is ALWAYS in physical contact with Moroha until she has to leave for plot reasons. He's just constantly holding her and rubbing his face on her face and hair like a proper dog-dad.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Yes! This was my favorite moment of the whole show and was very sweet. Sadly, even copious amounts of my favorite character, Sesshomaru, couldn't save that anime and how "Boruto" it felt, lol. I could've gone my whole life without seeing Rin end up with Sesshomaru, the villians were half-assedly introduced by only giving them title cards (instead of verbally using their names, which makes it stick a lot better), and the plotlines weren't very great. I love pretty much all things Inuyasha but Yashahime is definitely one of the worst parts of the series (next to the movie Affections Touching Across Time, and the inaccurate artstyle of the characters, lol. That movie just sticks out as such a sore thumb compared to the show and the later movies).

[@isadoracostahamsi163]

Didn't get this far. That is cool. I actually got super annoyed at the girls not having cat ears. Super silly, but I couldn't stop thinking about it.

[@00ammy00]

I gave up watching the show after about 8 episodes cause it was so boring and then awhile later saw that reunion clip on KZbin, and just like you said, it was literally all I needed - glad I didn't waste my time with the rest of the show.

[@mray4784]

@@isadoracostahamsi163 Dog ears.

[@Tengokuchi]

​@@mray4784nah. They're cat ears.

[@vincentweiss8727]

Man, I really hope Dorohedoro gets a second season. But it's been 4 years. If it does get a second season, I hope it's actually good.

[@murderman8578]

Doubt It's very niche and was just a passion project

[@Indeeee]

The director is working on Aot now so maybe once it ends.

[@coffeeinhandproductions3238]

I was hoping this as well as it's the perfect balance between quirk, horror, and intrigue. The Manga is wild though and gets progressively much darker than it begins.

[@ThatGreyGentleman]

Idk, dorohedoro kinda felt…done? I was pretty satisfied with how it ended tbh

[@murderman8578]

@@ThatGreyGentleman It's not a Compete story, Anime ends on a Cliffhanger

[@cosfreye]

The clip of your editor... I felt that so hard. I am also a HUGE Berserk fan and I happily await your Berserk-related content after you become a fan next month. *cheer*

[@arbknight12]

There is only one anime that should NEVER have a sequel series. The ENGLISH DUB of 'Ghost Stories'. That is pure perfection.

[@beepbeeplettuce5890]

Could you imagine how bad and try hard itd be if that happened *shudders*

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

​@@beepbeeplettuce5890the cringe *THE CRINGE*

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

The main reason is that most of their jokes wouldn't fly on the current internet era This isn't even a "Twitter, cancel culture, snowflake" thing, a lot of people just wouldn't vibe with the humor

[@Dekomata]

Good thing that's never happening. the original anime was a bomb in japan so there's no way they'd make more material just for an english dub company to continue making fun of it.

[@tinkerer3399]

​@HiJackMan18 Wouldn't necessarily need to have one to happen. Due to the nature of the Ghost Stories dub all they need to do is grab another dime a dozen anime and say it's a sequel. Really Robotech it.

[@alexandreduarte4448]

Oh I feel so vindicated about adventure 2020. What they did to Tai was bad and what they did to the rest of the crew was even worse. TK, Kari and even Tai's mom... all became braindead..... so sad

[@dangerousdays2052]

I feel sorry for all the scrubs that have only seen the garbo censored dub of the original Digimon Adventure and not the real version.

[@ashelygordon669]

I wholeheartedly agree and while I wasn’t as annoyed personally, even I can agree that they used Tai way too much for my and aside from Mimi, they didn’t even balance out the screentime for all of the main characters. 😡🤬😬 Why else people in the fandom infamously called the Taichi and people hate the reboot with a passion and a lot of the criticisms and hatred felt valid!!! 😕😐😰 I’m personally fatigued by the pandering of Digimon Adventure like don’t get me wrong because I know there’s people who did enjoy it which more to themselves but the reboot is not my cup of tea honestly!!! 🤯😡😖

[@TrueZero2]

I think the issue some MotW shows face is the idea of who the final boss should be. Digimon 2020 had Milleniumon, the biggest bad in the franchise, and the show kept going for 10+ episode after their defeat. Sentai had a similar problem last year. We knew the villain team were not the leaders of their faction, but the actual leaders appeared once and then never appeared again after that. Our actual final bosses were in all of 2 episodes, encountered the heroes all of once, and stole the powers they used to fight with from a couple of other villains, so they didn’t even get a cool unique form. The unusual part was that it was a pair of villains, not a single bad guy.

[@dracosfire7247]

I haven't watched it, but the way Geoff talked about it, it sounds like they turned Tai into a Mary Sue

[@wonderer2632]

The 2020 version did some things right, at least regarding Kari and the darkness calling. But I stopped watching around the time I felt like they not only screwed up the original plot, but the plot of 02 while they were at it. Do they plan on remaking 02 cause it wouldn’t make sense otherwise. Not that I’d sit through another disaster.

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

It is such a miracle that the Monogatari series kept itself mostly great from the first to the last season. Finishing it in a high note that made me sad that it was over, but also really happy for having watched it.

[@slevinchannel7589]

WHY does Boruto s-ck? Well, Dygo-Knight explains.

[@hypothalapotamus5293]

People should not say anything about Monogatari or they'll Boruto it with Koyomi's incest kids.

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

@@hypothalapotamus5293 They are probably projecting xD

[@Benxall]

​@@hypothalapotamus5293the novels go on a for a long while so we good for the hopefully eventual next seasons 👍

[@orochimochi905]

Okay, but as Aldnoah Zeros strongest soldier, I would kill and die for a full Mother's Basement breakdown of everything wrong with Slaine's dumb brain, stupid face, and terrible effing plan. We can dunk on Season 2 Inaho too, to keep it even. Maybe do some comparisons to other mecha anime. Please?

[@duncanlutz3698]

A huge problem with Aldnoah Zero? The stealth bait and switch. Loved the first three episodes? Kept watching hoping to sniff a bit more of that early high? Well that first arc was written by none other than The Butcher himself, Gen Urobuchi. The rest of the series... was not. Need I say more? All the nuance and little moments in the first arc that made us fall in love with the series... were either lost on the following writers or they just didn't have the skill to bring them to justice. S2 was simply the shark jumping moment, but the series was already dead.

[@darkdestiny9106]

THANK YOU! Finally there is someone out there that can see the garbage fire that Digimon Adventure 2020 is. The digimon partners always had this theme of values and growth associated with their human partners - that was why the kids were there in the first place, and that's why the original was so good. Omegamon/Omnimon was supposed to be the ultimate culmination in the friendship/rivalry that Tai and Yamato/Matt always had, and the final overcoming of a new threat to humankind. New digimon adventure just fucking let them do that when Tai and Yamato meet for the FIRST TIME in the second episode. How fucking dumb is that? Yes, digimon was literally "friendship is power" the anime, but they executed it well, letting each character grow while their digimon partners actually manifest that growth in a new stage of evolution. That was literally the point of the original and the remake just decided to throw it out the window. What a disgrace.

[@bretginn1419]

Most people dislike Digimon Adventure 2020 though. Especially because it decided to remove a lot of the best parts of the original. Like, that's not a new revelation, it's been bashed since it came out by the entire fanbase. Only Digimon related things that were bashed harder I can think of are Tri and that Digimon Tamers vs political correctness thing that was shown a few years back.

[@darkdestiny9106]

@@bretginn1419 Thank god that I wasn't the only one that felt that. I don't really follow many digimon youtubers, so I've only heard a few youtubers that shared the opinion that it was good so I thought that reflected on the general opinion of it. Thank the heavens the fandom hates it as much as I do. Thought I was irrationally hating on it for no reason.

[@scienceface8884]

​@darkdestiny9106 even if there turns out to not be a secret wellspring of Digimon fans that hate the 2020 series, just know that I'm in the exact same position: just couldn't bring myself to be excited to be watching that and Tri, but figured I was the odd one out. After all, you can only really experience a show for the first time once, and maybe I'm just getting too old to empathize with a 12 year old the way I used to. But maybe it's not nostalgia at all and the shows just genuinely got dumber.

[@eatatjoes6751]

Digimon hurts me personally because I was initially under the mistaken impression that it ripped off Pokémon and never watched it as a kid in protest of that until Pokèmon became too repetitive. With Adventure 2020 and tri. it feels like Toei finally decided to prove me goddamn right.

[@Omnicrom]

For those curious how the Digimon Adventure remake progressed after episode 10, covid ripped it in half. Metal Greymon showing up when he did was IMO fine and totally fit with the show, the theme, and where it was going. It was way better than Jeff is making it sound. The problem is that it only kept going in that direction and being pretty good for a little while longer before they ran out of track and it all collapsed. It's transparent that many, many, MANY of the bad decisions made were done because it was 2020 and they couldn't safely get more than a couple of people in a recording booth together and so the characters just stopped interacting. Taichi continued to be amazingly Overexposed, but without the ability to actually write character stories they don't do anything with him despite him being in every single episode. By the end of the show it was clear production was completely exhausted and doing it only for the paycheck. A chunk of the final Arc episodes were flagrantly first drafts, and you could tell almost in advance which episode was going to be watchable based off of who it starred. If you were not one of the three or so main characters the show liked then too bad so sad, you got nothing and that included Taichi. Looking back at really could have been something, the action was gorgeous, back when characters were characterized they did some interesting modern-day retakes for the cast that felt really cool, a lot of the show's ideas were exciting, and it had a really great Digimon cast of non-partner digimon, but it's still really sucked. Honestly that all makes it even worse. And the punchline? It's still the best thing branded as Digimon Adventure this side of 02. The movies were dire... on the other hand we got Digimon Ghost Game immediately afterwards so maybe it all worked out in the end.

[@SecretIdentityStudio]

Kemono Friends was a big one. After the franchise crashed when they fired the director and studio for (checks notes) doing bonus material that Kadokawa hadn't actually cared about them doing before the show got popular, they still pushed forward by giving the show to the lowest bidder, and the result wasn't just cheap, it didn't have any heart or love for the source material. Not to mention the new protagonist is a jerk shilled by the narrative as someone who truly belonged there, while the original protag is retconned to be nobody special, easily forgotten by everyone whose lives she changed, and destined to die and fade from history immediately. Not to mention that, while it's understandable that the producer would have been upset with fans sending hate mail and black faxes and basically treating the studio like scabs, the fact that he was caught picking fights with angry fans online under a sock might explain why KF2's plot and characters seem so spiteful to fans who wanted more of what we got in the first one. And then we got Welcome to Japari Park, which starts every episode with "sorry this isn't lore compliant, we didn't care as much as you do."

[@mariuspoppFM]

Black faxes is a great idea, must apply it to my workplace

[@purewhiteloverbizarrejelly]

In Digi2020’s defense, there was a “SkullGreymon” moment and it got me to tear up worse than the original. Really emotional stuff

[@MarbleVirus]

The biggest problem is just how late the big moment came, it surely doesn't make the entire series beforehand worth it. Buuuut at the same time I can eat so much Digimon shaped slop that it really did not matter to me I consumed it all and got to that moment which made it all just. *Hhhooughhhh yeahhhh that's the stuff*

[@magicturbo9]

yeah but the pacing wasn't tight which dilutes the magic of the original, still not bad as a whole

[@frankwest5388]

@@magicturbo9I only watched the first episode of the reboot and really disliked the favoritism given to Tai and Matt (I don’t know or could spell the original names). But they also lessened the epic reveal of Greymon by dropping him immediately alongside Agumon having it lack build up I know most watchers were fans already and knew about the most iconic monsters but it still was a let down and probably killed excitement for potential newer fans

[@raxcyz6168]

@@frankwest5388 by what you said, i think its good you only watched the first episode...who the brought out in episode 3 already was way worse, still watched all of it and liked it but its by far not as good as the og show

[@andrewshearsby8125]

Not a terrible season but not brilliant

[@ThePhilatron]

It was both heartwarming and sad to hear my exact feelings on The Devil is a Par-Timer expressed so eloquently in this video.

[@kerikerieri5917]

The promised neverland season 2 is to this day the biggest heartbreak of my life

[@0uttaS1TE]

Or, it would be. If it existed.

[@Laeshen]

There's a second season?

[@pazd8151]

Yeah. The first season is my fav anime ever, I read the whole manga because of it. Second season had EVERYTHING to be incredible. But at the end, the only salvageable thing from it was the soundtrack. Still pains me to remember what it could have been.

[@SuperKendoman]

It is absolutely criminal that we didn't get the Goldy Pond Saga animated. That was the best arc and we see the most amount of character growth in Yugo/mister, who is an amazingly well written anti-hero.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

Honestly, the signs were all there. TPN Season 1 was a mediocre adaptation.

[@NaritaZaraki]

No "fall off" has ever hurt me as much as S2 of The Promised Neverland. That shit still sends me into a ranting spiral if I think about it for more than a minute XD

[@declanhickie1394]

Especially when the manga they were adapting was so good. It’s still my favorite manga to this day and they skipped so much of the good stuff.

[@SakuraKotoni]

Rather than an anime I wished stayed dead and rather an anime I wished never existed WHILE still being a fan of the source material, there's Rosario+Vampire. It's honestly probably the reason I am so into anime and manga, and it was releasing in a time where digital releases weren't super popular yet so whenever the next volume released in English I'd get my mother to take me to the bookstore that actually stocked them and spend my hard earned, very limited pocket money on the books just to see what happened next. Honestly it's an exciting and emotional journey of not only self-acceptance for multiple characters but also acceptance for others too, masquerading as a harem. Then the anime exists. Which took all that character development, the excitement, the lore, and threw it all out for fanservice. I die a little whenever I remember it. I wish that anime was dead.

[@Kcoldraz]

I kinda like the Homonculus lore in the FMA original. It just hits me how connected they are to those who use taboo of human transmutation.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

It was an interesting idea but I don't think it went all that well with the original Homunculus designs and naming convention. It just raises too many questions. E.g. "What sort weird, freakish human was Gluttony?" "Why are they named after the Seven Deadly Sins?" "Why are there specifically seven of them?" "Are there ALWAYS seven? Or is this just some massive, cosmic coincidence?"

[@ihatetacocasa]

@@ThePreciseClimber It introduces a lot of plot holes you have to ignore but it's a more interesting story than they were all created by 1 homonculous

[@Kcoldraz]

I don't know greed and envy seemed to fit. I don't really remember the others. Sloth definitely doesn't fit the naming convention. Their connection makes sense since they are part of the few that broke taboo and they are specifically studying it. So it makes sense they cross paths with the fruits of the taboo. So I see the problem there.

[@SamuelPulkkinen-jp8ev]

@@ThePreciseClimber they elude to the fact that there have been prior homunculi and when they die (for some reason) their name gets passed to the new one. Dante has some weird obsession with having themed names, I guess.

[@mray4784]

@@ihatetacocasa No.

[@LeafMaltieze]

Friendly reminder that before Progressive, and Alternative, Trigger wanted to do a FLCL project, but Gainax said no. For some reason they later decided to give it to Production I.G.. Would it have been good if Trigger did it instead? idk, but I'd really like to see what they wanted to do.

[@KamikazeChinaman]

No surprise there, Gainax executives are simply evil.

[@soulrio]

Production IG had a half rights to FLCL franchise, because Gainax after Evangelion and before Gurren Lagann had a financial problems and made collaborations with other studios, for example, Mahoromantic is a collab with Madhouse. And imo Trigger will do it better.

[@MetalSonicReject]

In all fairness to The Devil is a Part Timer season 2, Funimation and English dub cast did their best to give the dialogue the same charm that season 1 did, which makes the season more enjoyable to watch. I almost spat out my drink when Ashiya was explaining the legend of the kappas. Those writers deserved a raise. 😂

[@salvator228]

Spoony Betrayal Count: 2 Sometimes I think Geoff drops these Internet of Antiquity references in just to confuse the younger audience members. And I love it.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

If that's he's goal than he definitely succeeded Also what's spoony betrayal?

[@salvator228]

@@airplanes_aren.t_real Spoony is a movie and game reviewer from the late 2000s through the mid 2010s. That clip of him yelling "Betrayal!" was his reaction to seeing a demo of the XCOM first person shooter at E3 2010.

[@Tzilandi]

@@salvator228 Was it really that long ago? Now I feel old...

[@sirius_raspberry]

With how often these years-later anime comebacks seem to fall completely flat, it almost feels like a miracle that Durarara!! X2 came out near completely intact as a continuation, staff and all. Definitely a strong exception to the rule.

[@sirius_raspberry]

@@zUJ7EjVD Can't disagree more with that but you do you

[@Delsin42]

​@@zUJ7EjVDhonestly a hot take,may you mind elaborating as to why you think that

[@LaydiNite]

Berserk is one of those rare cases where every single accolade and bit of praise it's received through the years is not only earned, but if anything is underselling it.

[@Cthululululu]

It's just... A beautiful blend of brutal, awesome, glorious ultra violence- And really, really deep emotional story telling.

[@GirtheAlienGoldfish]

I think it's oversold.

[@mariuspoppFM]

Most overrated manga ever

[@yodamvpplayer]

@@mariuspoppFM Can you name a better manga in the same genre?

[@I5g58]

Centuria

[@Omnipotentmonkey]

Here's the thing you didn't get on to with Sacred Star of Milos. on top of missing the bag as a thematic extension of the world or an elaboration on its characters. which most shonen non-canon movies also fail to do by their nature. it also UTTERLY fails to just be FUN and use its non-canon nature to give us cool shit. Gohan decking a resurrected Frieza in a single punch in DBZ: Fusion Reborn, The double All For One Scene from MHA: Heroes Rising, The Kyuubi vs Kyuubi battle from Naruto: Road to Ninja, all these cool, outlandish, fun things to do that couldn't really fit into canon, that's what these movies excel at, just giving us that little bite of wish-fulfilment outside the constraints of a story. but because Sacred Star is just this split off event where most of the canon characters simply aren't present, there's not much fun to be had. give us Edward making an exception to the rule and cutting loose with a Philosopher's stone like Al did in canon, it'd be out of character, but fuck it, it's non-canon and it'd be cool. give us Greed being sent by Father to keep an eye on the Elric Brothers going so far out of field, and have him fight Mustang or Armstrong or some shit. give us Edward improvising and trying his hand as Mustang's flame alchemy and blowing up a massive amount of shit by accident, just... something! you are outside the constraints of status quo, if you're not going to give us a meaningful story, DO... COOL SHIT...

[@amymak93]

That climactic scene with that animation and music in Heroes Rising is freaking amazing. But they also managed to make the film feel meaningful aside from that, despite being unable to advance the plot, by having it focus on Bakugou and Deku’s relationship. Which is a great idea, because their relationship is so complex, it’s easy to make a whole film devoted to examining their dynamic, even if they don’t advance it. Two Heroes and World Heroes Mission suffer a lot in comparison, as they also don’t advance the plot, but they don’t devote much time to character relationships that are meaningful in canon. (Though Rody is actually a really fun, engaging character for an anime OC. So the whole road trip second act with him was surprisingly meaningful.)

[@Omnipotentmonkey]

@@amymak93 I'd also say that Heroes Rising wins for having the bright idea of scattering a bunch of seriously badass moments across all of Class 1-A. Uraraka probably gets more highlights in that movie than she does in the entire manga prior the final arc.

[@SinHurr]

Almost anything can be forgiven if it's rad as fuckin' hell.

[@ShukakuTheCrazy1]

Now if they were like the one piece movies and more of a what if scenario I think these side pieces would be more enjoyable

[@robertmarsh5322]

​@banquetoftheleviathan1404other ass movie. Shambala was a movie of FMA original. Milo's was a movie for FMA: Brotherhood.

[@dunethewanderer8944]

I feel for Yazy. At least if you like a mecha anime there's a chance that a Super Robot Wars game will come along and fix things, but if you're not you sometimes just get... Neverland'd.

[@TheAzulmagia]

I want Zatch Bell to get a remake that looks nice, covers the whole manga, and then leads into the sequel series. But knowing my luck, the Monkey Paw will curl a finger and it'll just wind up being like Shaman King's remake.

[@thomasffrench3639]

And hopefully allows for the manga to be reprinted or retranslated

[@elmerzcosta]

​@@thomasffrench3639 I'm just happy the manga now has a sequel

[@brunetteartist24]

I wish every person looking forward for a any specific reboot a very happy fate of fruits basket 2019

[@faktorijele]

That reboot was everything, loooove it

[@witteefool]

Unfortunately I then had to discover how absolutely awful the ending to the manga is, though. I wish I’d stayed ignorant.

[@00ammy00]

​@@witteefoolWhat do you mean? The manga ended the same way as the reboot.

[@witteefool]

@@00ammy00 yes. That’s the problem.

[@00ammy00]

@@witteefool Okay now I'm wondering why you found it awful, it was a happy ending for all the characters.

[@notreallyanameatall]

I know why The Promised Neverland 2nd season was awful. I have the perspective of having been part of the very small online fandom of the scanlated manga. There was a tiny but loud subset of fans who bullied the writer terribly about mainly two things: the idea that the ending was too happy, and the idea that the main characters should have committed a genocide. I called these fans the pro-genocide faction. The writer was inexperienced in dealing with toxic fans. Fortunately, the manga was essentially finished by the time these pressures were brought to bear on the writer, so the ideas pushed by toxic fans didn't affect the manga. However, the writer became full of second-guessing and openly said that the toxic fans were right and said that different, more tragic, storylines should have been pursued and that some of the best material in the manga should have been skipped. This pressure then died down because the fandom was quite small and the manga was finished. Then, the 1st season of the anime came out and the fandom exploded in size, but these same toxic fans (who had begun to drift away to other things) came out of the woodwork again and this time pressured the writer to make sure that the 2nd season of the anime went in a very different direction than the manga. The writer doesn't really have that power, okay, but the writer still came out and said once again that they would support these various toxic-fan ideas in the second season as much as possible. With how the 2nd season turned out, I assume that some of these ideas must have went via the writer into the anime; at the very least the idea that something had to be very different in the story. So, you can blame a very small number of toxic fans who were able to pressure an inexperienced writer for how the second season went sour.

[@Veritanky]

reason why season 2 was bad was not because plot, or how story of manga was they put 40 chapters into slideshow. Thats it. Thats the reason.

[@pan6529]

What are you talking about? There was no season 2

[@blacksmoke6292]

If they were threatening them or were super hateful then I can understand if you hate that. I kind felt that way when others were super hateful towards the AoT creator. But I agree with some of that criticism. I really dislike the fact that Emma was able to easily convince people who were against the demons, despite what all the trauma and pain the demons put them through and kept bending over backwards to make it go Emma's way. The horror aspect also felt ruined too since their were no stakes, like I'm pretty sure majority of the kids from the first arc are still alive.

[@pablocasas5906]

Man, I've watched tons of bad anime in my life but I always shrugged it off and told to myself "well, that was bad, but I'm the one who watched it, why should I complain". But Promised Neverland S2 was the first anime where I was genuinely angry at the people who made, especially since I enjoyed season 1 so much

[@declanhickie1394]

I’m still pissed that we never got YUGO. Probably one of the most important characters in the story. And no Goldy pond either.

[@rirururu4697]

As someone who was in the Inuyasha fandom back in 2006, I can confirm that a ton of people saw Rin and Sesshomaru coming.

[@SinHurr]

They really should have kept that sort of thing behind closed doors.

[@raccoonchild]

This. I still can't believe people were surprised.

[@GoddoDoggo]

@@raccoonchild Every single one of my friends shipped Rin and Sesshomaru and I was the one singular "No that will never happen he's her father figure!" holdout. I was a very naive sweet summer child, as the youth say.

[@youtube-kit9450]

I personally didn't "see it coming" because 1. I didn't think anyone would ever continue the story of Inuyasha 2. I really tend to hope that people don't usagi drop us.

[@cjstevenson143]

In the manga sesshomaru doesn't look a day over 19. 19 is his physical age, though you'd never guess from the anime. I never saw it as grooming since sesshomaru never raised rin, only provided safety and protection. Rin was raised by jaken. Jaken taught her how to get food, played with her, accompanied her for the weeks in a row sesshomaru would leave them alone. Her puberty years were spent with humans too. I would've been fine if sesshrin hadn't happened, but I'm not bothered that it did. It was never outside the realm of possibilities hehehehejw

[@Cynimax]

Never thought I'd see someone pull out a Spoony "BETRAYAL" in 2023. Hats off to you.

[@kyleserfass4455]

Simpler times of the early internet...

[@morganqorishchi8181]

See, that joke made me laugh, but my mom, as a psychologist, got all sad about it because she feels bad for Spoony's untreated Bipolar Disorder and wishes she could intervene in his life. And now I feel bad for laughing because she didn't laugh. Am I a bad person for laughing, y'all? Someone clarify this for me.

[@joesurname3568]

@@morganqorishchi8181 Laughing at a joke Spoony made on purpose isn't inherently bad; it's laughing at his ongoing crisis that would be bad, and you probably aren't doing that.

[@BluePhoenixAlex]

I really wish otherside picnic could get a sequel despite not liking it, simply because the novels are so incredible and the anime never got to when the story really picks up

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

The one about lesbians and monsters?

[@AllegedlyHuman]

​@@airplanes_aren.t_real yup, that's the one

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

@@zUJ7EjVD bro that's just Scooby-Doo

[@siginotmylastname3969]

Fully agreed lmaooooo

[@MrZer093]

This is why I wait for an entire season to come out before I bother watching anything. Including remakes and sequels to stuff I like. Because I know very well that a lot of the time it really is just a bunch of suits thinking “oh wow! It’s that thing I know! Here’s money!” always works. On that note, I really hope Panty and Stocking season 2 is good

[@DeckDogs4Life]

I do have some high hopes for the new Panty and Stocking project. Mostly because I feel like, if anyone is going to get it right, it'll be the guy that was in charge to begin with, Hiroyuki Imaishi

[@arilumani6194]

This is Studio Trigger we're talking about. You know THE spiritual successor to Gainax. They can pull of insanely creative animation with or without Imaishi. But still there is a chance for Imaishi to come back as a director seeing how he founded Trigger along Masahiko Otsuka.

[@pete5516]

I hope they honour the original by being hammered when they write it 😂

[@thevioletbee5879]

I’m just curious how they’ll handle every black character having minstrel lips in the year of our lord 2024(?). Sure it’ll air in Japan fine, but ain’t no way that’ll pass on Adult Swim.

[@pete5516]

@@thevioletbee5879 it’s a parody of older America cartoons that were offensive af to many groups (Asians especially). If adult swim wanna pretend their country doesn’t have a disturbing history that’s fine but they could at least admit they’re being awful people.

[@thevioletbee5879]

@@pete5516 That’s fair… but seriously though, I hope they at least have more than, like, one design for a black background character. There’s a difference between satire, and using satire as a defense for laziness.

[@aliciarose_art]

I was so excited for the next Devil is a Part Timer season.... only to be let down soooo much I couldn't even finish it. I guess I'll just watch season 1 again and pretend it ends there lol

[@reihasgau8062]

I was so sad about Devil is a Part-timer. I watched the original back when it first came out and it was so good. I was pumped for the new season and it just looked so bad. I haven't even finished the first half. 😢

[@IridescentIrene]

slaine troyard was one of my favorite characters in fiction, his motivations and how he acted made so much sense, his rise to power was sick and then.... they surgically remove his decision making lobe

[@Shadowcam00]

It still burns me how they set up a superior protagonist with Slaine, put him through all sorts of frustrating nonsense to make us sympathize with him leading up to his turn at the twist ending, then just undo the ending and turn Inaho into even more of a plot-armored Gundam protagonist instead. They really didn't read the room with that decision; mecha fans were already frustrated with the stoic protagonists who are magically better than everyone else.

[@denstruction]

i was personally a pretty big fan of FLCL alternative as just an alternate universe (i mean you could call it a prequel but i'd say it's more a sidequel), like yeah obviously it wasnt gonna capture the same chaotic magic that the original has, but it works as an excellent thematic companion piece in my opinion. where the original is all about not being in a hurry to grow up and trying to make sense of the chaotic world around you, alternative goes "don't refuse to grow up and reject that reality all together by clinging to nostalgia, the people around you will change beyond your control but that's okay just don't forget you can change along with them aswell". my only real complaint is that it really didnt need to expound on what medical mechanica does or how the head warping works, but all in all i don't think alternative had entirely no reason to exist.

[@Crystre]

I never fully finished the Tokyo Mew Mew remake due to the site I was watching it on being annoying, but it was of few remakes I enjoy over the original. It gave aoyama, the main love interest an actual personality unlike the og which has most people shipping the Mc with the toxic yandere. It has so many improvements like that I can’t help but prefer it. I just wish all remakes could be as good.

[@eri_noemi1462]

Oh my God no, the Tokyo Mew Mew remake is TERRIBLE. It doesn't follow the manga at all. Therefore it is garbage.

[@Crystre]

@@eri_noemi1462 your joking right?

[@cutiepie120048]

Nooo, not the Irresponsible Captain Tylor 😭😭😭

[@alexm-e4910]

Bro, fellow Canadian tall boi, your Anime Holiness, Aldonah Zero sits atop my stack of favourite moments in anime with that colony drop. I actually jumped off my couch in shock and awe the first time I saw in highschool. Then… season two happened and… I’ve never trusted anime again

[@SeventhSwell]

Eureka 7 was such an amazing show. Everything that came after the original series is like a wound from a morgul blade, it's never truly healed and still hurts sometimes. I know I'll never be rid of AO until I finally sail into the west. It's one of those rare times where I'm just like, it never happened. There's no Alien movies after Aliens, there's no Terminator movies after T2, and there's no Eureka 7 after the original series.

[@CaedenV]

To be fair, I feel like Prometheus made a pretty decent Alien 3.... but otherwise, yeah, I think I agree on all counts. I rewatched Eureka 7 (along with a lot of other great Bones shows) last year, and so many of their early work was just so awesome! Not without issues (typically around pacing, or ending a climax), but a lot of great nostalgia bait came from Bones! FMA, Scrapped Princess, E7, Darker than Black, RahXephon, Xam'd, Soul Eater... All amazing shows! And then 2009 hit and... its like they just completely lost the plot! Gemini, AO, Not, I would even say Space Dandy was just odd and lots of other shows with weird and zany animation much better and with more of a point. I understand they have some shows now that I would enjoy again... but the disappointment is already there. Hard to go back to a studio that took so many wrong turns in a row. Even if I like a newer show they make, I'm just afraid they well ruin it.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

​@@CaedenVThe saddest thing about _Prometheus_ (which would more be _Alien 0_ since it's an[other unnecessary] prequel) is that even if you somehow liked it, then the *even worse* (by like a full magnitude somehow) _Alien: Covenant_ just shits all over it anyway in all of its monumental stupidity.

[@nanneichii9811]

i am the self proclaimed biggest eureka seven fan and i have to say. i watched ao episode by episode and ive never felt such a soul sucking reality check. greater than taxes on an artist i’m so glad you’ve been bringing up e7 lately

[@HalibelKnight]

I love Eureka 7 ❤ I remember watching AO and thinking how this just couldn’t be it 😂 I was so bored! Years later and I’m glad to see everyone felt the same.

[@LadyAlligator]

This is how I felt when I first saw what pocket full of rainbows did to the series. It felt like a betrayal. Conversely AI enjoyed AO quite a bit but nirvash redesign left me feeling meh at best.

[@csidesummit]

Just a bit of input for Devil is a Part Timer. I didn’t see this 10 years ago, it missed me completely. So when my friend and I started watching we watched with 2 seasons already in place. WE did notice the art change. But we’re both still very much enjoying the series.

[@tani7895]

Good to see I also didn’t notice any art change. Lol

[@Venandi_]

I didnt even know there was a second season of the Devil is a Part Timer, I first watched it some 7-ish years ago on netflix. When you showed the new season, i got such a hard case of style whiplash that i physically recoiled from the screen WHAT DID THEY DOOOOOO

[@CaedenV]

I was stoked for S2! Bought the S1 discs, and showed it to my kids in prep for the new season! This was going to be the first anime I have EVER watched in real time as it was being released! We all watched ep1 of season 2 together as soon as it had subtitles... and decided it was best to move on to something else. So sad.

[@allisonbennett2716]

New studio used the manga/light novel artstyle.

[@madkoala2130]

Get ready for ending, because even mangaka showed middle finger to those few who actually followed manga.

[@serenity3157]

​@@allisonbennett2716Manga has still solid art than season 2 tho

[@hammerfallsokk]

Another big one is fuckin' Darker than black. I've never been more deeply confused over why anyone would feel like they needed to make the mc into an alcoholic, take away his powers and move the focus on to a random girl who spawns a sniper rifle out of her chest. The original show is one of those great mystery anime which left you asking: "oh man, what even is all of this. There's so much left unanswered." And then 2 years later you get what you imagine is gonna be a continuation of the show just to have it be the most confusing and least appealing thing you could possible imagine. And it's made by what is ostensibly the same cast, director and animation team... you know late 2000s studio BONES. They had everything they needed to land that banger but instead they kicked in the door and told me to shut the fuck up and enjoy some depressed hei.

[@LaineMann]

Yup. I sat through that whole show going “okay, but why is Hei a hobo? Can someone answer me!?”

[@arilumani6194]

This is why you need to watch Gaiden first which is a 4-episodes OVA and takes place between these 2 shows. Hei's characterization in the sequel makes much more sense after watching the OVA first. Trust me, I did the same think when I bingewatched it in November of 2022 and it was worth it. Just watch Gaiden first then the sequel second and then you can give it a new appreciation.

[@hammerfallsokk]

@@arilumani6194 Just so we're clear here; as far as i am aware gaiden came out in 2010 a full year after season 2. This was not the order most viewers at the time would have experienced the content, unless you got the combined DVD with both. I've watched it and it is a fine expanding of Hei and Yin relationship, but the main reason why season 2 to me is such a farce is the fact that the ensemble cast from season 1 is so strong, and all of the characterbuilding and setup in the first season is just thrown to the wolfs. I do not, tho think it fixes the issues of moving the focus of the show from Hei to Suou and taking away his powers. My personal feeling is the direction they took the show resulted in something less interesting as a result of this creative choice. I also personally feel that requiring you to see an OVA or movie prior to viewing season 2 of the same show is... odd. I know other shows do this as well, and i equally do not enjoy it when pieces of media can't stand alone on their own creative merits. There seems to be a pretty clear divide in the community surrounding if they think season 2 was trope subverting and found Suou interesting as a protag, versus people like me who find that it wasted most of the potential by trying to be subversive. If you go on to MAL and just read the reviews of season 1 and compare them to the reviews of season 2 it becomes fairly clear that there's been a split perception of that show since it came out, and similarly to you a lot of them tell potential viewers to watch the OVA first.

[@AeonKnigh432]

Honestly, I'm glad that I went to read The Devil is a Part Timer light novels immediately after finishing the anime. It was my first anime that wasn't either finished, a shonen thing stuck in the endless forever jail, or Pokemon which is arguably also that second thing, so I absolutely NEEDED to see how that ended. And so I did, I read the light novels. And now I will not watch s2 ever because I don't hate myself.

[@lookalivebrett]

This is some of your best work. What an insightful retrospective and analysis. I'm actually blown away by this one. It might be the E7 fan in me, but you summed up my contempt with the sequels and movies so well. Good Yazy cameo despite the wisdom debuff.

[@nccish]

Man, that Spoony "betrayal" bit never fails to make me laugh. It's just obscure enough as well.

[@wdcain1]

I can't believe LordKat whines that it ruined his career in Hollywood because he's next to Spoony.

[@niles.5987]

@@wdcain1I genuinely know nothing about him beyond that rant. I find it hard to believe he was ever relevant enough to have an image to ruin

[@jakey14344]

@@wdcain1 Spoony though? He's already fucked.

[@Ashtarte3D]

@@niles.5987 Spoony was kind of a big deal back in the heyday of That Guy With The Glasses being relevant. When everyone was trying to copy AVGN Spoony took the idea of shitting on bad games in a less rage-fueled direction that aped Mystery Science Theatre and it was great. Then he sort of melted down, got kicked from TGWTG and then further melted down, apparently also scamming his fans at some point. But yes the "BETRAYAL" scream is still an A+ meme.

[@niles.5987]

@@Ashtarte3D guess I should’ve clarified, I meant lordkat lol. Ik about spoony and his whole deal, I’ll never forgot how he hospitalized a family in a car crash

[@illustriousrocket4476]

I would honestly die to see you do a deep dive into the downfall of Eureka Seven. It's not really like anything else, imo - not only is it a franchise that keeps coming back and attempting to cash in with diminishing returns, but when you really get into the content of the sequels, *especially* Hi-Evolution, what you find is a series that goes to absolutely insane lengths to undo its previous installments. The second movie, the Anemone one, erases the entire franchise from existence.

[@Shadowcam00]

I'm glad i noped out of the franchise when the sequels started coming; it's one of my favorite anime from that era, and i'd like to keep it that way.

[@hypothalapotamus5293]

Hi evolution is semi-acceptable if you tell yourself that none of it is canon and it's mostly delusional stuff that's happening when Anemone is interfacing with the scub coral (ie not on a bunch of drugs to get her awake).

[@YazzyDream]

16:08 Your explanation for skullgraymon really helped my understanding of Gojo's metaphor for tengen. Like, i got the general gist before but didn't know specifics. Lol. So thanks for that.

[@CaedenV]

Ive always loved Darker than Black. I mean, what a neat weird world, with interesting concepts to explore. But they warped up the whole thing in 1 season so nice and neatly, and it would be really difficult do pick it up and continue the story with anything. But man... could you imagine if they made a 2nd season? There is no way that could be anything good.

[@DKNguyen3.1415]

Like code Geass. Time to watch the only season of darker than black again .

[@Theaverageazn247]

@@DKNguyen3.1415 code geass had a good ending. china arc was pretty mid though

[@Shadowcam00]

@@DKNguyen3.1415 I just think of the weirdness in season 2 as Lelouche trying to stop his father from ripping off the plot of Eva. XD

[@DKNguyen3.1415]

@@Shadowcam00 Most shows aren't able to recover after such stupidity.

[@lathyrusloon]

There is no second season. There is. No. Second. Season.

[@Rakshasaka]

Aldnoah Zero's Planetfall is one of the most badass moment we ever got out of a mecha anime, and it was a fantastic table setting for a really dope first season. What they ended up doing with the meandering and haphazard season two is straight up tragic.

[@russetwolf13]

I love how Spoony screamed "BETRAYAL!" so loud it echoed into eternity.

[@ragnarockerbunny]

Wild that Geoff hasn't seen or read Berserk. Sorry about the feels heading your way, but just know we all stand together in our hatred for Griffith. Yes, he did everything wrong.

[@DieAlteistwiederda]

Don't trust anyone who unironically says "Griffith did nothing wrong".

[@344shadowking]

Agreed! Griffith is deffo most hated character in anime and for good reason lol

[@SinHurr]

Or did he? Michael, VSauce here.

[@ragnarockerbunny]

@@zUJ7EjVD It is very easy to write of Berserk as misery porn, as edgelord bullshit for people who can't imagine joy. Berserk is at times the cruelest, horrific and unrelenting story I've ever read. It is also the story of two sexual assault survivors finding a moment of quiet intimacy despite their trauma. It's the story of a man who has every reason to be a violent angry loner picking up the pieces and finding comradery again, and again. It's an scathing rebuke of the divine right of kings, it is a swashbuckling pirate adventure, it is... It's the kind of story that makes you feel seen as a fellow struggler fighting for existence every day. And even with the demons that plague you at night and the bits of your body and soul that the world takes from you... That you are not only worthy, but that it is inevitable that you will find your way to precious comrades again. Is it for everyone? No. But like... Miura just gets it, man. He just gets it.

[@aggelospapagg2105]

​​@@zUJ7EjVDUnless you dont care about great characters, engaging stories with twitsts and turns and possibly some of the best art ever created for a manga yourr really missing out dude. Ngl they way you say that sounds kinda dickish lol

[@FerraticaTheBard]

I actually went and watch The Irresponsible Captain Tylor a few months back after watching your video on it. 1) if anything, you undersold it on just how good it is. And 2) there is now an eternally burning hole in my heart over the fact that not only will there never be any more of that beautiful, outrageous anime, they haven't even translated the novels, so I can't even try to sate my hunger for more content there! I guess it's true what they say - only the good die young. TT_TT

[@VaanG0v]

I would like to add Fullmetal Panic to the list. S1-S3 was so damn good. My first anime too, I remember being more tense than I had ever been in my life during the plane hijacking. When I heard about season 4 coming out. I was READY to love it. It was so awful, I don't even wanna think about it.

[@Sukenus]

I dodged a massive bullet with that one by not even trying to watch the new season.

[@RuneKatashima]

Me and S3 of Nanatsu no Taizai

[@kadosho02]

Wait Full Metal Panic too. 🤦 Why Ugh. Just jeezus I only watched the original series and the oddball spinoff. I'm good.

[@robertmarsh5322]

I mean it was what it promised... and not a single millimeter more.

[@hokutology1718]

​@@kadosho02You need to watch Second Raid, it's the high point of the franchise as far as anime goes.

[@AnIllinoisan]

This may have been one of your most chaotic and entertaining episodes ever Jeff

[@DarthCool99]

you're such a good presenter dude, your intros are to the point, funny, and they don't ramble. I watch way too much yt, and your shit is legit well made.

[@Bones-2039]

I never wanted more FLCL. I love FLCL, but I feel the reason i love it is because i was part of the audience at the right time. I've never seen anything beyond the original OVAs. I have my FLCL, I never needed more.

[@ZeroZmm]

I'm still hoping for Dorohedoro's season 2..seeing how studio Mappa has been turning out bangers I hope it doesn't disappoint when it eventually drops 🙏

[@eoghanfeighery7383]

Fingers crossed even if I'm still skiddish over Mappa taking on too many projects. Kinda makes me worried that if I enjoy a Mappa anime, I'd turn a blind eye to the animators who experienced a lot of crunch.

[@yasmineh.1333]

Me with Silver Spoon season 3. I'm delusional, it's been ten years, A-1 pictures probably has some more profitable shit to do, but god damn it I refuse to believe the first two seasons were a flop in the slightest.

[@jacobbrock6631]

It’s coming now 🙏🤞

[@ZeroZmm]

@@jacobbrock6631 Finally 🥺🙏

[@jadonrowe273]

I like sailor moon crystal after season 3 cause the animation stoped being butt ugly and the art style was saved but the plot for crystal was a lot tighter and more accurate and crystal doesn’t hate sailor Saturn (my favorite character) so like over all my preference is the Manga lol

[@t59112]

The first two seasons were produced for a web-series which kinda explains the low budget animation

[@BlueDog241]

Tenchi Muyo was one of my first anime obsession's. I had to have every VHS and manga that came out. Imagine my delight when Tenchi in Tokyo came out. ....Now imagine how I felt after watching it...

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

That is a classic example of a real rug pull. Then again the entire Tenchi Muyo franchise is kind of peaks and valleys.

[@catantcha99]

Tenchi muyo gpx was pretty bad also but at least the op is really good

[@JohnDoe-wq5eu]

@@catantcha99 Still not the lowest point of the series I'm sure.

[@NostalGamation]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is also why we need to go back to the early 2000s kind of anime releases where the standard episodes 24, 25, 26 and sometimes up to episode 50 the anime ends. No release per season so as to lessen the dissapointment.

[@Christopher._M]

I still prefer the way anime is released today. So much of the 2000's anime is unwatchable because it drags on with filler in-between episodes and arcs. That's the reason they had 24-50 episodes. Naruto and bleach probably are 30-50% filler. One piece is like 30% filler and 30% dragged out in pacing. I don't want to return to that

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@Christopher._Mhe’s not referring to adaptations, he’s referring to the shows that are completed in 50 episodes instead of 13 episodes without another season.

[@Theycallmetomu]

So, when Slayers Revolution dropped, I was ecstatic. It had been over a decade since the end of Try, and I was amazed that a series I thought had ended had more to tell. Of course, I hadn't read the light novels-still haven't if I'm being honest (hey, those are BOOKS, I wanna watch CARTOONS). But there was definitely something that felt like it was missing. Plot beats that felt like that didn't really make sense for what had come before (again, no clue if that's an adaptation problem or if it was the novels fault) But then Evolution R dropped and I was like "No, wait, this is great." But there's more to tell, and it's been another decade, so now I'm just hoping for another Revolution if I'm being perfectly honest.

[@leomcruz95]

Spoony reference in 2023. Man, been a pleasure to keep up with your videos since the start of this year. Cheers Geoff and whoever else is a part of this, great entertainment 👍

[@Omega_1998_]

The Devil is a Part-timer is actually parody,but I still liked how Geoff mentioned it in this topic.

[@Diox990]

I'm happy Digimon 2020 got a mention here. From what I read seems like part of the reason they were so focused with Tai and couldn't actually use the other kids that much was because during the pandemic they couldn't actually bring in too many people at the same time to work in the studios which affected the amount of characters an episode could have (as all the voice actors couldn't all meet at the same time) and because they had to separate the staff into multiple small groups it caused issues with the writing of the series too. I don't know how much this actually affected the end product but it's such a shame to know there was a chance we could have gotten something really good but was screwed by some very bad timing with the pandemic being a thing.

[@frankwest5388]

I call Bull on that one The show came out April 2020, the pandemic became a problem world wide in late December 2019 the earliest. This type of show is in development for about 2 years all things considered and voice work doesn’t change the script that hard especially when every episode was already animated and scripted for large parts. Maybe near the end of development there have been some issues but there is no way that this is why they wrote what they did. What I think actually happened is that Agumon and Tai are the most marketable and recognizable characters in the series and they were desperate to cash in on that. Whereas the original was more focused on showing off all the different digimon, the reboot focused on pushing the biggest seller. This is why they also always force in a new “Agumon” as the partner of the MC. So executive meddling or marketing bias made them do this

[@KrytenKoro]

If they had to focus on just one character, then do an anime make of v-tamer. Vtamer is one of the best things in the entire. Give the artist whatever money he asks for, and make an anime

[@Diox990]

@@frankwest5388 Pre-production is not 2 years, is usually around 6 months and considering the release of Kisuna was earlier that year they probably weren't all in on this one either. Also this information is not from rumors but from the information given by members of the staff during interviews and DigimonCon when asked about the challenges they faced during the production of this series.

[@LivingGuy484]

I will forever be disappointed that Saiki K's English voice cast was replaced after the 1st season

[@thaearthquake]

Seeing how Eureka 7 was treated actually hurt me in a way I don’t think any other media has. It was my favorite anime through my teen years and after recently rewatching it, it’s still as amazing as I remember. It’s just sad when a creator can’t let a story end and leave it that way. I know the director Tomoki Kyouda had to change his vision of a more bittersweet ending but I think his pride or ego caused him to drag his magnum opus through the mud and really ruin its legacy.

[@ConvincingPeople]

I honestly felt this way about the semi-recent remake of Kino's Journey, not because it was "bad" per se, but because of how much of it retrod portions of the light novels which the original series had already adapted excellently, often to much lesser effect, and how the sleeker "modernised" style of this new series lost a lot of the charm and uniqueness of the original adaptation's particular storybook-like style. Like, the definitive versions of "The Land of Adults", "Coliseum" and *especially* "A Kind Land" already existed; if you wanted to bring the show back, simply adapting a whole new slate of fan-favourite stories would be the way to go, but they only went halfway with it. All around just very frustrating.

[@stoops187]

Honestly I really enjoyed the remake

[@ConvincingPeople]

@@stoops187 I mean, I'm glad you did. It's certainly nowhere near as much of a dud as some of what's covered in this video, and even then, I have to imagine that most of them have at least a few sincere defenders. I know a friend of mine who's a big fan of the Shaman King manga has been enjoying the new adaptation no matter what some folks might say about it.

[@Lcirex]

As an anime watcher since 1992. I am just grateful that I have a chance of having access to light novels and manga for anime that cliffhangered me.

[@maximomutt0018]

the shot of your editor surrounded by merch was heartbreakingly beautiful

[@Argobus1]

Gunslinger Girl. Madhouse did an absolutely amazing job with season 1, with an unique art style, sombre atmosphere and a slow pacing befitting the story, not to mention the opera-esque soundtrack by Toshihiko Sahashi, the likes of wich I have not heard again since. Season two by Artland basically sanded down everything that made S1 special, going for a much more generic look and feel, along with a notable dip in animation quality. The story is still there, underneath it all, but there is little reason not to continue with the manga after S1.

[@rikacreature]

its been years and i'm still so, so mad that il teatrino exists, especially since it apparently covers what are considered to be the best parts of the manga

[@moore9793]

The worst part is, Artland's portion technically follows the plot of the manga better than Madhouse's did, but the dip in quality holds it back so hard that it doesn't really matter

[@Red_PlaysYT]

I’ve never felt so disappointed until berserk 2016-2017 came out

[@LuffyDYami]

intro music went hard af tho, story carried the animation so still watched anyways

[@Charok1]

I was enjoying the dubbed berserk band of the hawk arc until the demon ending that was bad in so many ways that I'll not watch that show ever again.

[@spectralknight7142]

It was so bad I dropped berserk and never thought about it again until I read the manga. Unfortunately I finished the manga a couple months before Miura passed so my first chapter release was his last

[@Wutever]

Yeah it was bad. I REALLY knew it was going to be worse then i could possibly imagine when they fucked up the horse