Shoot MASSIVE FLAMES with Open Flash Tablet Tune!! Subaru BRZ | Scion FRS | Toyota 86

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Just a quick update since a bunch of ppl have been asking: I am no longer running an OFT tune since I got tuned on ecutek for my Jackson racing supercharger, so I cannot run this tune anymore (not that I did too much anyway). For anyone still wondering how it is and if it’s safe, long term effects of a pop/flame tune are generally not “good” especially if you’re doing it a lot with the car parked. I’ve moved past this mod phase, it was fun while it lasted lol.

[@frsthinh]

cant you change maps for it to not pop and bang

[@Ajaxburger]

@@frsthinh As long as you have the tablet on you, yup. Tablet can hold 4 custom maps + stock.

[@ziraakk]

Ahhhh, just watching this makes me so excited to get catless headers. Can't wait to try this once I get my hands on one, and an OFT 😂😂

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Yea man it's gonna be sick! Try it now and you'll get catless headers for free 😂

[@JacobZika]

For those of you wanting to run E-85 like myself, I can confirm that this method will work great. I found that by changing the first two columns, I got more consistent and louder pops versus just changing the first column. I used the numbers as shown in the video for my own experimental purposes. Now I can run E-85 with pops and bangs and it’s been amazing so far. As far as flames go, I haven’t noticed any and would probably have better luck with 91. If you’re wanting to know if this is a “good” thing or not, I do not have an answer for you. I think it’s good just for the smiles alone but do this at your own risk and do your research to determine if it’s something you wanna do or not. Side note: I only changed the first two columns as shown in the video on base timing B. Leave A alone.

[@Javon-Frs2013]

As you were wondering, yes they are the same in a automatic

[@CrispyImmy]

this guy put me in the video smh

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Had to credit you for the sick clip 😂👌🏽👌🏽

[@PAWG_champ]

yooo that star liner is sick!

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Yea it's honestly my favorite mod haha you can DIY it too! Check out my channel for a tutorial 👍🏽

[@PAWG_champ]

LivingAsleepHD oh, that’s awesome. I’ll definitely check it out!

[@ep_140]

Running mine daily at -7.98 from 2600 to 7000 RPM. Definitely don’t have problems with my muffler packing as long as your not popping it all the time so the muffler can cool off. But the Tomei type 80 comes with high heat resistance glass packing from what I heard so it really shouldn’t be an issue with Tomei but idk 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Lol yea it definitely depends on the quality of your exhaust but it would still be a long term concern anyway. Just wanted to give ample warning to people 😂 cats are more susceptible to the damage than mufflers though!

[@ARHAMALVI]

🔥 soooonnnnn

[@danielstack5205]

Could you do a walkthrough on how to use Romraider and customize the tune? I want to mainly see how to get the tune into the folder so that you can pull it up onto the romraider software.

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Hey unfortunately I’m not using the OFT anymore since I’m tuned with ecutek for my supercharger. I did find some great information here though (there’s also a lot of helpful threads on the Ft86club forum): kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4TOg6WBbbVkmZo

[@tristandaniel]

Nice setup 😍

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Thank you!!

[@aaronthomson22]

Hey I’m from Whitby as well we should meet up sometime and your build has inspired me to get my 2013 Scion FR-S and love it

[@aaronthomson22]

Can we meet up sometime?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Hey that's awesome man let's do it! Message me on IG (@zafarhsayed). Appreciate the support and glad I could help in any way!

[@aaronthomson22]

Messaged you on ig

[@JokRKidd]

is it only the timing B that is getting changed? and not timing A? I've seen another video where the guy does both

[@noahgoldenberg7331]

Can u do an in depth installation because im stuck on how to do thr conpiter things

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Sure, I'll make a video soon!

[@Alex5ohh]

I had the stage 1 tune with backfire at -15 on first line and when i installed the uel header and went catless, it shoots 2 feet long flames so i just left it on the stage 1

[@LivingAsleepHD]

You'll want to go stage 2+ V4 OFT tune if you are using a catless header to make use of any of the benefits of the header itself! Otherwise you're losing on the potential power gains and offset your AFR significantly while actually driving. The -15 will work in both stage 1/2 but stage 1 is meant specifically for the stock header I believe. Make sure you look after the health of your car first and foremost 😁

[@Odzyn]

Does it make a difference if i keep a stock over pipe? Or does it shoot better flames with a aftermarket overpipe?

[@seekingkashh]

where was that tunnel

[@tsenmuawa101]

Is yours on 91,93, or e85? Just wondering if e85 would do it too. Heard some people say the flames aren't visible as the other octanes

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I run 93/94 up in Toronto, Canada since we don't have any E85 closeby sadly 😭... This will work on E85 with some modifications I've read but it does run less heat and different timing than pump gas so the Base Timing B table would look pretty different for E85. There is also an overrun method specifically for E85 here: www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129251

[@AustinDrwid]

I tried the tune on e85 and with 91 octane. with e85 it gargles more and 91 gives me the bigger pops n doesn't gargle as much. exhaust setup: Borla V2 headers Stock Overpipe Tomei Front Pipe Stock Resonator/Muffler delete

[@JojoushiPWI]

That's good to know, as I'm running in e85 as well and tuned on e85. Was wondering about this.

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Overrun is a popular way for pops/bangs/flames on E85, check this out if you’re interested: www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129251

[@JojoushiPWI]

@@LivingAsleepHD Thank you very much ^_^

[@ThtGuyIzRippin]

also sick video!

[@atilaarjmand8971]

Catback invidia n1 would not work?

[@lekooky2877]

How is it holding up? I am about to do this to my car. I experimented with the standard -8 on the first column and it's pretty good but I want to see some flames haha.

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Haha I don't run this daily as it crackles a LOT when you're casually driving and that's not really my taste. I just flash to it when I want to be rowdy and shoot flames (the daily tune is either a regular stage 2+ tune or some minor burbles/crackles). That being said it has been reliable for me! Just gotta find the sweet spot for the big gunshot pop up in the mid-high RPM range and that's usually a flame!

[@lekooky2877]

@@LivingAsleepHD Haha that's awesome dude. I also daily with the regular stage 2+. I want the flame tune to be obnoxious. I also have 2 e85 pumps near me so I have a map for e85 if I know I am racing. But that's awesome, I'm going to try this tomorrow with some friends on the 4th.

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Awesome bro take some sick fireworks and exhaust flame pics 😂 sadly I don't get E85 in the Toronto area but this can be done with E85 as well, check the ft86club forum for E85 fueling overrun crackles/pops/flames map and try that at some point as well ✌🏽✌🏽

[@lekooky2877]

@@LivingAsleepHD Another question is what is your launch control set at? Does it help when doing this at all?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I haven't touched the launch control setting so it's still set for 5500 rpm (I believe the actual value in the map is a delta of 2000 or something). It works with that setting so I guess it's helpful enough with my setup - the effects of the timing changes are different at higher rpm so it would need some experimenting to see how well it would work or if it needs some modifications if you get rid of the launch control. I've been thinking about playing some more with this to tune in some high rpm flames but I'm still learning haha

[@rykuo6420]

Why is yours -.12 on the end of the map

[@arenbumanglag3689]

What lip/sideskirt kit are you running mate?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Hey, I'm running a replica STI style diffuser, HT Auto V2 rear spats, and CS style side skirts and front lip! Love it and the fitment was really good for all parts, except the Greddy Revolution RS exhaust tip and muffler is too big for the diffuser cutout so it does push on it a little bit. Nothing too bad most wouldn't notice a thing ;)

[@omarz864]

2 questions would Thais work on a remark axle back muffler delete, and do we really need your exhaust setup

[@LivingAsleepHD]

You can do this with a muffler delete and any setup but if you still have any factory cats they will be damaged at some point due to the pops and flames. Don't need my exact setup but I would highly recommend considering some type of catless setup, or be prepared to have non functioning cats. Good luck :)

[@omarz864]

LivingAsleepHD thanks bro bc I have almost the same set up as u and I was going to do this tune today but u helped by telling me I need all after market catless bc I would brake it so thx

[@LivingAsleepHD]

No problem man!

[@matthewbredestege7026]

Is this the same settings for base timing A too?

[@hayleyminish3421]

I did this tune and now I keep getting a check engine light for too much fuel in the exhaust. Any way to fix?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Go back to a normal tune. This tune gets flames by dumping unburnt fuel into the exhaust so this can happen.

[@zeus.1006]

Did it do anything wrong to the car when you were running the tune or did you change the tune back to how you had before doing this?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I only ran the tune for short periods just to shoot flames, and always reverted back to a regular stage 2+ tune or a light burble tune otherwise. I wouldn’t recommend running this long term

[@kadehuffaker]

Hey so I got this tune and it’s great, but I’m not getting flames. I have three resonators(dual resonator front pipe) and the other resonator on my Invidia n2 exhaust. Would the resonators have anything do to with not spitting flames and making it quieter?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I had 3 resonators in this video, shouldn’t be a problem they don’t affect the flames. You should be able to shoot flames, at this point it’s more technique and finding the sweet spot in your setup!

[@paoloenriquejavier4922]

Great vid. In your opinion, would just a pop/bang tune (no flames) be problematic for stock headers and catback exhaust setup?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Yup I’ve seen regular pops/bangs/burble tunes destroy cats as well, they’re less aggressive but they still ignite fuel (although it is less than a flame tune) into the exhaust which damages the stock catalytic converters. I’d be careful with that!

[@paoloenriquejavier4922]

Thanks for the response. Bummer.. I would love to go catless but exhaust laws are so strict where I stay.

[@timothymitchell2831]

I've been running a pop tune on my FRS with openflash stage 1 and -8 on the timing for almost a year without any noticable issues on my stock header. Passed emissions too

[@Flunoir]

@@timothymitchell2831 if you don’t mind me asking, what state are you in? There’s no way you passed emissions here with the tune in Cali 😭😭

[@boyishdog123]

whats ur wheel and tire specs bro! Love the fitment. Any spacers? Also how much camber

[@LivingAsleepHD]

18x9.5 +30 with 215/40/18 tires in this setup, no spacers. -6.8 rear and -4.2 front 👌🏽

[@loganbarr1768]

hey man, did you leave the ignition timing a charger alone when you did this, or did you do -15 and -6 on a and b?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Only change the B table, the A table is for something else (idle/limp mode)

[@SSRAdventuresMotovlog]

Can you run this 24/7 without any problems? Except the exhaust thing

[@LivingAsleepHD]

The tune itself is fine to run for your engine, it'll blow out cats and potentially muffler packing if you have them in your setup. I don't run it unless I specifically want to shoot flames as I have a different daily tune.

[@SSRAdventuresMotovlog]

LivingAsleepHD ok that’s good I’ve been running this tune with the numbers you had on the video for a couple of days now I’m completely catless so I should be fine

[@jayveesanpedro4974]

amrit still running the tune?

[@davido3495]

@@SSRAdventuresMotovlog are you still running the tune daily any problems ?

[@SSRAdventuresMotovlog]

@@davido3495 yup running daily no issues at all car runs the same

[@liamleporati3320]

Hey mate what's your muffler like in your cutback is it stuffed?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I think I can see through it pretty much, the packing is around the perimeter of the muffler exit since it’s a single exit pass through style. Haven’t looked really hard though haha

[@ashveensharma5468]

How safe is this if you're fully catless? I'm on a -8 tune for the first column only at the moment.

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Safe in what aspect? There's a parameter that contains the max negative value which is -20 I believe. So going to -15 shouldn't be problematic itself, I don't know for sure but I'd hope there is a mechanism that overrides values set past -20 (but I won't test that). In terms of your exhaust, this will blow out any packing in the piping so mufflers and cat mesh, not sure about resonators it might depend on the type. For the engine .. well people run minor negative timing for long periods without significant effects but I would even be cautious at -15, hence why I only run this tune for novelty. It's definitely not my daily tune lol. I personally haven't seen engine failure due to these tunes specifically but it will add unnecessary heat and load to engine/exhaust components so caution and maintenance should be increased when trying this tune.

[@ashveensharma5468]

@@LivingAsleepHD perfect thank you so much! And for the bottom of your chart did you edit them to say 0.15? Mine have numbers in the 40s

[@LivingAsleepHD]

That's the table definitions from the v4 tunes, you might need to update yours or the calid might be wrong?

[@ashveensharma5468]

@@LivingAsleepHD Weird I have V4 tunes but mine didn't look like that. I manually updated the last row as I found those were all +45 for me before. Rest were consistent enough

[@Alex-bc7wz]

@@LivingAsleepHD I have this tune set from 2600-6400 rpm’s and I cruise and daily my car 2000 rpm’s or less cause I like to baby it most of the time. This tune would be safe to run as a daily tune as long as I’m not hitting those rpm’s (2600-6400) correct?

[@jahazielfuentes5103]

Very helpful video! 🔥🔥🔥 I just did the same set up on mine, I got a 2019 gt86 Trd. My few mods so far are: Perrin intake, 1320 headers, Koyorad radiator very helpful for better temps, rear resonator delete, mine comes with the Trd exhaust, it is very loud, and this tune is very good, thanks man 🤙🏼 thank you for sharing your set up💯

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Hey thanks man I’m glad to hear it works well for you! This will also be a good reference for others. Keep killing it bro ✌🏽

[@jahazielfuentes5103]

@@LivingAsleepHD I really appreciate it bro, keep it 🆙 with these good videos ✌🏼🔥💯

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Got some sick things happening in spring stay tuned bro!

[@jahazielfuentes5103]

@@LivingAsleepHD Alright alright!!!!! Got cha !! 🔥🔥🔥 sounds good 👌 Can’t wait 💯🤙🏼

[@jayveesanpedro4974]

what do you normally drive around on? do u drive around with this map constantly ?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I usually drive around on the regular OFT stage 2+ tune or a modified one for very slight burbles/pops but nothing overly aggressive. My exhaust is loud and aggressive as it is lol

[@jayveesanpedro4974]

LivingAsleepHD i wonder if it’s safe to run this as a main tune, but for now i’ll just switch back and forth

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I know people run these tunes long term but for me the biggest drawback is the driveability and fuel consumption. The throttle response really sucks with these tunes so daily and spirited driving suffers a lot. So it's fun to play with here and there :p for me at least!

[@jayveesanpedro4974]

LivingAsleepHD there’s an overrun method i saw on the forums that eliminate the jerkiness and dead pedal, i’d like to try it but i’m not sure how reliable it is vs the base timing b method

[@jayveesanpedro4974]

i’d like to try it but i don’t want to risk damaging my engine lol

[@evosmoove]

El catless headers Catless front pipe muffler delete When I edit the tune, what stage do I edit on because currently, I edited stage 1 with stock headers? What's your social media, I have more questions

[@LivingAsleepHD]

You should most likely download and edit the newest stage 2+ tune for catless headers. And you can msg me on IG: instagram.com/zafarhsayed/

[@naastyytv2886]

Hey bro should the only changes be the timing set to -7 (tune wise)??

[@LivingAsleepHD]

For my setup I used -15 and -6 in the first 2 columns from 2200-7000 rpm, -7 can work if you get it hot enough and are catless depending on your setup but the flames might not be as big

[@naastyytv2886]

LivingAsleepHD that's sweet. I want to know I have UEL headers, stock mid pipe and over pipe and an invidia n1 cat back exhaust. Would I be able to use your tune for crackle and tunes? Also does cat back mean the exhaust has cats ? Thanks for all your help bro I subbed :)

[@LivingAsleepHD]

The catback is the part of the exhaust after all of the catalytic converters, so after the front pipe in this car, you could have cats or not - if you do then a crackle/pop tune will eventually destroy your cats in the stock front pipe and the header if yours is still catted. If you just want crackles and not specifically flames you can use -5 to -10 which will range from a burbly sound to crackles to louder pops, depending on your preference. Thanks for the sub man! Really appreciate it

[@naastyytv2886]

LivingAsleepHD all good man keep up the great content love your BRZ videos!!!

[@samjackson2882]

I just went full catless with Tomei uel catless header, mxp comp rs catback and a invidia resonated front pipe with that -7 and it shoots little baby flames

[@notgynx1851]

will this work if you have cats?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

You’ll blow your cats.

[@ThtGuyIzRippin]

yo would this be good with a tomei type 80 invidia catless fp and tomei uel headers.

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Yea for sure! Close enough setup to mine

[@ThtGuyIzRippin]

@@LivingAsleepHD dude i just tried it out and its insane lmfao pops so much, is this shit safe bro? It actually pops a lot if i give the throttle the lightest touch. And yo are u in the whatsapp group for toronto 86s?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Yeah it’s absolutely crazy 😂 i don’t think any pop or flame tune is safe but this one especially I wouldn’t run daily or long term. I used to run a very light burble tune and only switched to this for fun a couple times a month. I don’t run any of these anymore though since I’m tuned on ecutek for my supercharger . Yeah I am in the group but msg me on IG instead if you need anything (@livingasleephd)

[@liamleporati3320]

Would the tomie 80 sound the same?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

It sounds pretty similar to my catback just a minor change in tone since it’s titanium. But yeah

[@dhillonmaharaj4863]

Can I set a launch control on an automatic?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I would check the latest version of the OFT tune for your specific car and see if that feature is included. I think it is but I have a manual so maybe it's different.

[@dhillonmaharaj4863]

Do you daily this tune?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Nah I used to flash this and run it for a bit just to shoot flames and have fun. I ran a light burble tune or a regular stage 2+ tune normally. But now I'm tuned on ecutek so I don't use this tune anymore.

[@dhillonmaharaj4863]

@@LivingAsleepHD gotcha, when you did run it did it every mess up your muffler packing? I’m running almost the same exhaust setup as you

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Nah not really since the Greddy Revolution RS has barely any lol, thing is basically a straight pipe canon. Never had any issues with that but I know ppl that have blown out their cats for sure.

[@dhillonmaharaj4863]

@@LivingAsleepHD oh yeah for sure lol I’m full catless so no need to worry there lol, you got instagram bro?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Yeah man try out the tune see how it goes! And yep check me out at instagram.com/zafarhsayed/ 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@noahgoldenberg7331]

Should i change the whole map or only the first two columns

[@LivingAsleepHD]

You only need to edit the first 2 columns, the rest of the table should be more or less the same depending on your specific car's calibration file when you load it into ROM raider

[@Srtalonso392]

I got a muffler Delete will this work? Or damage anything?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Nah you'll be fine, no mufflers to damage ;) are you catless? If not you'll eventually destroy them but then you can just run the catless OFT tune anyway.

[@javiehernandez1896]

Would these numbers be the same for the stage 2+ E85 map?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Not sure, I don’t get E85 in my area 😢 I heard the pops will be different with the same numbers for sure

[@jo312o7]

how do i access that map graph ?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I showed the “Base Timing B” table which you can access through ROM Raider. When you open your tune file, expand the “Ignition Timing - Advance” menu to find it

[@Jasperseda]

Can you shoot flames with just the catless header and stock front pipe? i have an mxp comp rs exhaust btw.

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Well this tune will definitely blow the cat in the stock front pipe then you'll shoot a ton of flames haha.. so yes it'll "work" with that setup :)

[@Jasperseda]

LivingAsleepHD haha fasho thanks!

[@DistortedGameYT]

Yo what wheels are those! clean af!

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Thanks dude! Aodhan AH02, 18x9.5 +30 :)

[@aleccorpora8576]

What is your base tune?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I started with the OFT stage 2+ v4 tune and edited the Base Timing B table for the flames

[@davido3495]

@@LivingAsleepHD so you didn’t mess with the base a timing ?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Nope don't edit Base Timing A at all. I think that has to do with either cold start, limp mode, or something similar (can check on the forums) and is better left as-is. Just edit B.

[@zadaofficial8091]

Is the table of fuel (like Power Commander on bikes) or spark advance/retardation???

[@ajp1697]

What’s your rev limiter set to?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

My launch control setting is at 5500 rpm I believe.

[@nabeelsamad5485]

Will it work in an automatic?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Yessir I know some ppl with this tune on an auto and it will work just fine ;)

[@andrewmilne7787]

I mean I’m not mad if it blows my cats out

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Lol might end up with a code and more volume but then it’s a good reason to go aftermarket 😁

[@Liam-nt8hn]

As soon as I heard, " I'm not responsible for your car" i said hell no, this man tryna break my sh*t, getting outta here

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Yeah I'm trying to break your car. Lmaoooo okay man

[@Liam-nt8hn]

@@LivingAsleepHD it's a joke calm down, seriously though, if your tune was good for the car why you gotta say that

[@LivingAsleepHD]

I never said it was good for the car (in fact I say the opposite) - no flame tune ever is. So I'm saying "I'm not responsible for how this tune that works for MY car reacts on YOUR car". This has been stated numerous times in the video and in the comments so your joke doesn't carry across. Try it out or not, modify it accordingly, whatever you like. Lol I'm just a guy on the internet sharing my experience, but even the professional tuners will do the job at YOUR risk.

[@Liam-nt8hn]

@@LivingAsleepHD didnt watch the video long enough to get that

[@LivingAsleepHD]

That's fine - like I said to others in the comments and private msgs it's just a tune to have fun with and I never ran it daily because of the abuse it puts on the car. Some ppl might interpret that differently and just send it redlining all day to blow flames and stuff, and since every engine is different, that won't work for everyone. So I claim no responsibility for damage caused by a cars owner. Hopefully others read this as well.

[@WyattWebster]

so sick! I liked and subbed! We have a frs on our channel come check it out!

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Thanks for the support will definitely check you out!

[@WyattWebster]

LivingAsleepHD thanks bro🔥

[@-dominguez4415]

Can it do this while moving?

[@LivingAsleepHD]

It definitely can, just need to get the exhaust hot enough and find the sweet spot for a flame in your setup. Working on getting a clip of it lol

[@Hold.My.Tacoss]

“So you wanna shoot flames huh?” Then proceeds to struggle to produce any flames, I didn’t know ppl still do this ricer shit 😭😭😭

[@LivingAsleepHD]

Lol complains but watched the vid anyway. Thanks bro!

[@suhhlowbrz]

I mean shoot massive flames is a nice click bait, this was more of a crackle pop video with some flame pops..