This $200 phone can do ANYTHING!!! - Pine64 Pinephone

[@askopte]

Turn on the phone 1st time Immediately throw you to terminal Now that's genuine *Linux* experience

[@peace9272]

A true Unbloated Linux experience! Just the shell, no Sudo.

[@Reshyurem]

This needs more attention. After trying arch, reading this comment has me laughing so hard

[@MaxRamos8]

So in other words Linux is an L, figures. So stupid

[@Jambion]

@@Reshyurem how long did you take to install arch?

[@chipminion7887]

@Jacob Ahem, GNU/Linux kernel /s

[@fooferbob9230]

If I ever develop a product I will make the box super difficult to get open. Then, I will include instructions on how to open the box inside the box!

[@crhu319]

Also a license saying you agreed to awful stuff just by opening the box.

[@manictiger]

@@crhu319 And when the box is opened, it just has a note that says "call this number with credit or debit card in hand to unlock this DLC".

[@roderik1990]

How can you live with yourself?! Such evilness...

[@oskarcobb1324]

Ok, satan

[@Pacbandit13]

Evil you're pure evil 😁😁

[@ShortCircuit]

Sorry about the issue regarding the flicker, we're investigating! - Jono

[@qwerasdfhjkio]

Hey Jono, can you get me a keyboard?

[@photognate88]

I have seen this a couple of times recently. It always seems to be on the closeup shot from the right-hand side. I have had this type of issue happen during the recording of clips when a single error happens on a frame during recording. I am not saying that is what happened here but maybe double-check the raw file. My instance happened with p2 media. It was super weird ended up being a bad internal connection. Thought I would share as while it's not common it can happen.

[@ShadowReaper8919]

Dont think its your issue noticed it on a few video uploaded by other content creators today as well.

[@SirMcNoodle]

I've noticed these occasionally too. The same green flicker also happened on Hacksmiths video from today so maybe it's an issue on KZbins end?

[@martianingreen]

I don't think it's a problem on your end. I've noticed it in a few videos since 2 days ago. I think it's a problem with KZbin.

[@npswm1314]

Update! PINE64 switched off of using Mobian as its primary and now uses Manjaro with Plasma Mobile as the DE. And it works great now.

[@BobISuppose]

What happened or the status of phosh and the alpine os for it. Was that another project of software and hardware or from version 1?

[@mr.pigeon0]

@@BobISuppose phosh got a bunch of updates and is much better now

[@mr.pigeon0]

and i wouldnt recomend mobian as it doesnt work at all for me

[@hariranormal5584]

Gentoo on phone: featuring: - the experience of pain - now portable - compiling a single package using 8 phones and distcc - waiting - recompiling kernel and then wondering how it went wrong - reading manuals 24/7 using a different phone all of this and more for the admireable price of your sanity

[@Zi7ar21]

Nah it would just explode

[@nicolashermosillapolanco6870]

I remember trying Gentoo a few years ago in a terrible laptop with an AMD E-350 APU. My whole experience can be defined as "waiting".

[@hariranormal5584]

@@nicolashermosillapolanco6870 I tried it on a i7-7500U laptop with bad cooling. Safe to say going with the bloatiest DE's and stuff it took over 3 days of compiling 24/7 and then I just stopped doing it as it kept on getting harder to just run KDE and all its utilities

[@waldotheranger3987]

That's just gentoo though. The other oses are much more polished, and don't take nearly as much work to get working. just make sure you do some research into which cellular providers are compatible with your os of choice, as that's the hardest thing to get working right now. Tracfone prepaid sims are the ones that work most reliably, but some success has been had with pre-activated verzion sims

[@pajeetsingh]

emerge dev-lang/rust

[@amateurwizard]

I can't believe all 7 Librem phone owners disliked this

[@riccardik]

Now they are 60 more, it is clearly the future!

[@LINMOBnet]

The UI Mobian uses would not exist without Purism's Librem 5 effort. So.. they have a point ;-)

[@PurpleKnightmare]

79 now.

[@yunfeichen9255]

To be fair it seems pretty bad compared to the Poco

[@Galexlol]

DAMNNNNN

[@Alpeyy]

Anthony...the God of Linux is back once again to bless us

[@Alpeyy]

Just got a heart from himself. Never felt so blessed before

[@firesnake6311]

But his init system is systemd

[@AlLiberali]

@@firesnake6311 and his kernel is linux. Long live actual unices

[@TAP7a]

@@AlLiberali I guess "I use BSD btw" is too subtle for the BSD crowd?

[@AlLiberali]

@@TAP7a idk ask bsd crowd i use solaris(illumos) distros

[@novh4ck]

Anthony seemed a bit surprised to see the last dipswitch for the headphone jack. It actually doesn't disable the port but switches between audio and hardware UART mode. It can be used to debug the phone with a 3.5mm to USB cable.

[@FixedAFT]

dude. thats dope. Pushing that to Cars. a FItech (fuel injection conversion kit for old cars-carb replacement) uses a audio jack as the USB connector for its tuner. considering this is a linuxed based phone and hardware control is at your fingertips so to speak.. i wonder.....

[@ahmadeid3016]

we really need a "Learn linux with anthony" series

[@mikumiku4u942]

@Archont1978 exactly

[@ediodimacaroni]

@@FujiLivz i will only simp for Anthony

[@satteshlikes]

Yasss!

[@Mastercorban]

Thats a great idea. He's so watchable and i feel like i'm learning just with him on my screen

[@Adamchevy]

I 100 percent agree! A natural teacher Anthony is! I would love to watch that.

[@kidlzr]

There should be a custom “Linux Tech Tips” into for Linux deep dives

[@Zestyclose-Big3127]

so...Wendell? Then again I'm here but not over at any of his channels (not usually anyway) so maybe there's still soemthing else right an LMG Linux Tech Tips channel can do his channels aren't quite doing yet.

[@blockbertus]

As Kerstkrans Ya-Mian already said... Level1Techs and their subchannels have deeper dives into Linux.

[@mxpsii]

@Jacob this tbh give anthony his own linux channel

[@VRtechman]

YEAH! Something that says I AM AN LEDGE LORD! 😈 BOW BEFORE ME! OR SHALL ZOMBIFY YOUR PC! 😅

[@flowstate5465]

Yeeeeess

[@churrosgratis]

9:35 Linus on the test video: "is breathtaking" Anthony, the loving guy: "you're breathtaking"

[@tj71520]

Actually I got a little worried by that comment

[@Masterf-ub3fu]

that keanu reeves quote

[@SimulatedGoat]

Yvonne better watch out, anthony might steal her man

[@dolbitnormalno8294]

that sh*t got me rolling actually lmao

[@BradenAlbrecht]

I think privacy/security is what this is for and I'm so glad it exists. I can see more like this becoming a thing as time goes on.

[@alexthomas6602]

Im trying to get these for the team i work with as a security manager i cant explain how much the hardware switches for wifi Bluetooth and camera turned me on lmao

[@iloveplasticbottles]

I can't. It's too underpowered.

[@koxukoshu]

Having phones where you could remove the back makes me feel young again

[@MrClauried]

okay boomer (i feel you bro)

[@jonnyOysters]

Lol check out the Ultra budget phone market a lot of those phones have. Atleast from a couple of years ago might of changed with the newer ones

[@TharsanJeyachandran]

@@MrClauried mat e abdomen is people born like 80 years ago

[@MrClauried]

@@TharsanJeyachandran *m a t e a b d o m e n*

[@void1754]

The last one I got that had a removable back/battery was the Galaxy S1

[@indianboy0453]

I would personally love to see more stuff like this. Just a LITTLE bit more processing power and it's gold.

[@osaobeid7828]

stfu

[@jackass123455]

Put a snapdragon or something from a more recent Android in one and you'd be golden I think

[@osaobeid7828]

@@za-se4jv stfu

[@nicolaim4275]

@@jackass123455 The problem is that the processor and GPU has to be compatible with the mainline Linux kernel and most Android phones run on weird binary blobs. The next Pinephone iteration is meant to run on a CPU closer to a Raspberry Pi 4 in terms of power, but it will likely be two years from now for a realistic consumer product.

@@nicolaim4275 But atleast it shows that you don't need Android or iOS on a "mobile phone" and in the end will be able to have a choice of which Distro you want run on your device without any vendor lockin

[@thesaltonsea1]

Please make a series that has Anthony teaching Linux to Madison :)

[@ashpatel7164]

Upvote hard lads

[@dragon2knight]

Why do you hate Anthony???

[@informitas0117]

Y E S

[@BluePoloYT]

Yes

[@nitePhyyre]

That'd be gold.

[@novh4ck]

The development continues and the Pinephone operating systems are much faster these days. There is still a lot of space for improvement though and hopefully the whole ecosystem will be ready once Pinephone 2 hits the market. I kinda don't expect Pinephone 1 to ever come out of the beta stage.

[@mateowoetam]

If they refine this device in a few years I'm definitely getting it.

[@cyancoyote7366]

It's hard to make a fully open source phone okay? Give the guys some slack

[@mateowoetam]

@@cyancoyote7366 I never said it was bad, it's great, I just don't have a need for that rn so in a few years when I decide to change phone I will go for one of these, and since it would have been a few years the device would be much better.

[@Angel-mh8em]

The phone has been refined so much in the last months, I now use it as a daily driver and I love it. It is not great and there are a lot of flaws, but 6 months ago when using this phone, I would have laughed if someone said to use the pinephone as a daily driver.

[@Angel-mh8em]

@@ekaanshahuja5535 The device is meant to be cheap and low power to help developers of linux on mobile to have a low price point to get the device and develop for it. its a $150 phone and you are bashing it? I don't understand that mindset. The phone has poor performance since the software is not mature enough, phosh is built in gtk3 which has no support for hardware acceleration. Over time there will come improvements and saying something is shit before it is even a marketable product is ignorant at best.

[@MrDavibu]

@@ekaanshahuja5535 Even though I'm not a fan of this phone, I can't agree.(Librem copy cat) You always need to consider the sales. Even if they would match the specs of a cheap android phone, they wouldn't sell that many and thus their cost increases.(More volume decreases manufacturing cost and impact of fixed cost)

[@ShaiyanHossain]

this phone is a throwback to when phones were actually designed with repairability in mind

[@Mbeluba]

But they were never designed with repairability in mind? They were always closed systems to throw out after two years.

[@hl9252]

This phone should be the new punishment for hardcore criminals no need to hang them just hand this phone to them soon they will hang themselves in their cell 😂😂😂

[@IPlayKindred]

Just a buy a goddam case and move on

[@t0x1cl]

@@hl9252 what

[@manuelmunguia616]

@@Mbeluba dont know where you are pulling that 2 years, galaxy s4 still works heck even galaxy s3 works to this day... curently using a galaxy s8+

[@matekovacs2696]

Do you know what the coolest feature of the PinePhone is? The 6 golden pins under the back panel. They are called 'pogo pins', and they provide unsolicited access to the battery (giving the user the ability to expand the battery with a back cover mod), and a full I2C interface, enabling modders to create their custom back panels and add limitless functionality. There is already a fingerprint mod available, and someone did a thermal camera mod. It really is for the community who would like to fiddle with this stuff.

[@bluef1sh926]

So what? The phone has poor performance, you can add any mod you like, but the phone is still barely usable due to poor performance...

[@matekovacs2696]

@@bluef1sh926 It is not intended as a daily driver. It is intended primarily for developers and modders, with the goal of once becoming a consumer device. The PinePhone is basically a glorified devkit, but I don't think that is a bad thing. We definitely need that (we as in the people who would like to tinker with it)

[@maplemeep]

@@matekovacs2696 how much r&d has been poured into a device that will never bring its creators profit

[@matekovacs2696]

@@maplemeep Eventually the successors of this device will bring them profit...

[@set-l1520]

@@matekovacs2696 why do they need to profit?

[@kiraweidman]

I love the depth and systematic approach Anthony takes when reviewing. Love ya Anthony!

[@atlys258]

Nearly 15 uninterrupted minutes of Anthony being Anthony, also there's a device review. 👌👌👌

[@sabni8668]

How the fuck would you know? You’ve never met him

[@atlys258]

@@sabni8668 ffs, who pissed in your cheerios?

[@Iisakki3000]

Soooooo much better than unbox therapy. Astronomically better.

[@DavosTheDegen]

@@sabni8668 Someone's got daddy issues

[@sabni8668]

@@DavosTheDegen Keep your daddy issues to yourself bud, don't need to announce it to the world

[@Reshyurem]

Me reading the title and expecting a phone that can process 8k and ray trace without a need for any cooling

[@abramhansen]

It can, just not in real time. Really far away from real time.

[@definetlynotgerman9954]

From which anime is your pfp?

[@thekell]

It definitely could. It might takes a few months to process one scene but it definitely could

[@oskrm]

Phones shouldn't process 8K and do any kind of ray tracing.

[@thekell]

@@oskrm no they shouldn't but on a technical level it would be possible It would just take forever

[@maltheman96]

Anthony "That you can use for whatever you need to use it for, like you can run.." Me "A drug ring? Cartel? Secret society meetings? Anthony "automation scripts" Me "oh yea that too"

[@ov3rkill]

Yep, an automation script for drug rings, cartel, and secret society meetings.

[@priyanshujindal1995]

Well you can run a tor server on it, so not totally wrong

[@karthiksubramanianlakshmi]

@@priyanshujindal1995 bro, where to buy in India?

[@dzvxo]

@@karthiksubramanianlakshmi many units have been confiscated at the indian border so they do not ship there anymore

[@NeilHaskins]

@@dzvxo Presumably India doesn't have specific laws against FOSS phones. Why are they getting confiscated?

[@kobegarcia6747]

I really liked this video. The fact that a $200 smartphone can do a lot of things in 2021 is not as surprising. But its so cool too see that technology is become a bit more cheaper and advanced.

[@schassis_eddi]

This reminds me of like 12 years ago when all android phones had removable batteries and SD card slots... and CyanogenMod. I miss rooted phones and jailbroken iPhones... so many rad apps you could run... But I don't miss an OTA update breaking all the cool modded apps...

[@ajemajh]

im pretty sure you can still root your android phone

[@elimalinsky7069]

@@ajemajh Exynos Samsung phones are still rootable out of the box.

[@ajemajh]

@@elimalinsky7069 i thought you can root with snapdragon phone

[@FamousWolfe]

My 2010 LG Optimus 2X is STILL waiting for Android 4.0 IceCream Sandwich 😂🤣 (yes, LG promised it but never actually rolled it out). I miss those days when phone manufacturers weren’t such d*cks and would actually let us root our phones and install custom ROMs (in fact for many years that was one of the “selling points” of Android phones vs. iPhones). Nowadays a lot of Android phones have locked their boot sequence which makes rooting and custom ROM usage a real PITA. Sigh I miss the simpler times lol.

[@elimalinsky7069]

@@ajemajh Not sure about Snapdragon, but any unlocked Exynos Samsung phone is easily rootable.

[@siroj4249]

Ubuntu Touch just has way more development time. The other OSes will catch up one day.

[@dd28924]

Technically they are all the same OS. They are just different distros.

[@toaster_bloke9999]

​@@dd28924 yes, we all GNU that...

[@ikt32]

Edit - Apparently Ubuntu isn't developed by Canonical any more and has also become community maintained, sorry!

[@penguin86bitals]

@@ikt32 Ubuntu Touch has been abandoned by Canoncal like 5 years ago, if not more. Just community is maintaining it now.

[@stonium69]

@@ikt32 Ubuntu touch was abandoned by canonical several years ago. The ubports Ubuntu Touch did have somewhat of a headstart because of previous canonical support, but they also started earlier (2016/2017) compared to plasma mobile (early 2019). I have no idea when Phosh development started (sometime between the Librem 5 kickstarter and today), but given that it's funded by Librem, that should explain its current state.

[@the_everything_ops]

Remind me of the struggle of old Linux in Desktop in 2000s, but be patient 5 years from now you can have decent full linux experience in Smartphone.

[@lepidotos]

A lot of people complain about linux in the 2000s, and maybe it did suck, but I was young enough that it didn't matter and I still look back on stuff like Mandriva fondly.

[@saltyrice821]

Yeah like....... android

[@lepidotos]

@@r2com641 Installing video drivers sucked, sure, but that was mainly me being dumb and not downloading them beforehand. Besides that, I can't really think of a reason for it to "suck" anymore. WINE can run just about any game you throw at it and handles programs just as well as long as they aren't expecting direct hardware access. FOSS equivalents to paid software (when said software isn't already Linux native) are pretty much just as functional as their proprietary counterparts, even if they aren't as pretty -- I know of at least one, Blender, that's now a real competitor in the 3D graphics industry. Not to mention, no subscription licensing, once you download it you have it forever. Linux just works now, and has for at least the last five years. I suspect as more people get tired of Microsoft making you pay $150 to be a beta tester, things will get even better.

[@rzul]

@@saltyrice821 new news: when people talk about Linux, they don't actually mean the kernel

[@kdog4033]

I'm good with my droid interface

[@Alexithymiander]

I'll buy this as soon as it has 2x the hardware.

[@aaronthomas6155]

There were phones released with Ubuntu Touch and "modern" hardware a few years ago.....but they had crap sales so they got discontinued....

[@cityguyable]

@@aaronthomas6155 is there anything out there now that you would recommend.

[@stonium69]

the pinephone pro was just announced for 400 dollars with 6 cores on a somewhat newer version of ARM, 4gb of ram, etc. it's basically 2x the hardware of this

[@cityguyable]

@@stonium69 Do you have to be a programmer to use one of these or is it pretty user friendly?

[@stonium69]

@@cityguyable At this stage id recommend them only if you have a good knowledge of linux and the linux command line but no you don't need to be a programmer.

[@jonothan]

Could LTT make an entire channel dedicated to open projects/software/hardware?

[@ccelik97]

nope, won't get that much attention

[@computeraidedworld1148]

That would be sweet

[@computeraidedworld1148]

@Ethan Atchley I agree, alot of tech guys are into open source already, and this would probably engage with the older viewers better. Just put Anthony as the host and you are set.

[@jonothan]

@Ethan Atchley I think that as more and more people become part of open source projects through school, uni, work and as more and more infrastructure becomes a fundamental tangible part of more lives (outside of existing infrastructure), I think it might not be a massive money spinner now for LTT, but it would be a great resource and leave great legacy considering Linus' and I'm sure the team's feelings about the environmental and other impact of their work.

[@jonothan]

@@ccelik97 perhaps not a huge amount now, but perhaps it'd draw new attention to and be part of a new generation of people who feel strongly about democratising opportunities and open infrastructure.

[@a-aron2276]

The back cover just pulling off was surprisingly refreshing. Phone manufacturers can definitely make a cover come off and still be water resistant if they wanted to.

[@Videotubelord]

First Sony water resistant phones where with removable rear covers, so as samsung galaxy s5

[@philipcooksey3422]

They can, but it has trade offs which most people don't care for

[@EoRdE6]

The S5 had that but it's waterproofing was pretty bad, I lost one to water damage after a light splash of water.

[@ShowXTech]

But the S5 had a Micro USB 3.0 Port... This was so stupid...

[@InfernosReaper]

@@ShowXTech don't think USB actually existed then, so it having the normal USB3 port like you'd see on a hard drive enclosure or something wasn't bad. The S6 going to 2.0 microB was a real travesty.

[@CrippleX89]

"15 minutes? I'll just get the gist and go on with my life" 15 minutes later...

[@Jessev741]

That's an Anthony video for ya

[@awetisimgaming7473]

Despite being a bit poop compared to a flagship or something, it's still totally usable for people that like open source, and might want to give the bird to big business. I also love the Debian logo on the back, I usually run phone cases, so I would probably paint my own on one, or get a sticker or something

[@BITCOIlN]

This is what I expected nowadays phones to be, imagine having a phone using outside and later pluging in to a monitor and use it as a desktop.

[@vwbug1975]

People either forgot about, or never knew about, Motorola's LapDock (laptop style dock with keyboard & mouse), or the built-in DesktopUI for when you plugged into the onboard microHDMI port with a monitor, then used a mouse & keyboard, making it into a full desktop computer.

[@tristan6509]

It's called Samsung Dex and has been a thing for ages...

[@n4ppyboyx]

That's already possible with most phones and Samsung even has a special UI/UX for it... DEX

[@endurologic2705]

Sony xperia did one few years bk with mini hdmi output

[@alvallac2171]

*plugging

[@georgebezman4883]

Honestly now, who dislikes a video with Anthony as host? He's wholesome AF. If anything, Anthony is the only person that could get even a 60yr old grandma interested in tech lol

[@ligametis]

Maybe small minority doesn't like overweigh hosts no matter how nice and honest they are. Anthony is lovely , but I can't blame if for some people beauty and physical qualities also matter.

[@sabni8668]

He’s cool but he deffo needs to lost the weight so we can keep hearing from him for a long time to come

[@nopebro2471]

as i said on ltt video a week ago, anthony is best waifu

[@georgebezman4883]

@@sabni8668 Losing that amount of weight sure ain't easy. And I think we've all noticed he's trying. He did lose some weight lately, so let's not give the dude a hard time 'aight?

[@sabni8668]

@@georgebezman4883 He's gonna die way too young if he doesn't, so don't you give him a 'hard time' by looking the other way

[@Fozzedout]

I would love for Anthony to daily driver this for a few weeks and give a completed review on the main channel

[@myownsite]

Daily driving a phone that slow would make anyone gouge their eyeballs out.

[@waldotheranger3987]

@@myownsite it's slow right now, but the primary reason for that is that Gpu acceleration is not enabled for most apps yet. So of course it's going to be a rough experience for a little bit longer, but if you've been following this thing, it went from having no oses and zero apps a little over a year ago to where it is now. and you saw it working well with ubuntu touch, which does have gpu acceleration for it's browser. that's enough proof that the hardware isn't the issue (at least not for everyday tasks. obviously you're playing any modern mobile games on it) So basically, anthony might want to wait a bit longer for that test, but once it's more ready I think it's a great idea to do a full review

[@quantumIO]

It should be a crime to make a phone without an easy to replace battery.

[@ghosthunter0950]

@@robertlee6338 what a dumb comment, batteries should always be replacable on any device, they're always guaranteed to die why throw the whole thing away? there are plenty of uses for old phones, and why be forced to switch not on your own terms? not to mention "it's time to get 5x better phone" is just not true and hasn't been for quite a few years now.

[@Thisandthat8908]

this thing reminded me of my old S2.

[@mycommentmyopinion]

@@robertlee6338 One of the dumbest comments I've ever read

[@archangel8172]

@@ghosthunter0950 On any phone it is easy to replace the battery. What is hard is to open the phone XD. Replacing the battery is at worst soldering 2 wires. But yes anti repair practices should be banned.

[@SF-bh7rd]

@@ghosthunter0950 At the very least it should be false marketing for a company like Apple to claim they care about the environment while directly making choices that lead to more e-waste

[@an7ech]

Anthony: " it's actually cooler than I'm letting on " That's how we all think of you

[@omeadpooladzandi9786]

I really enjoy these kinds of videos. As somebody who's watched LTT and family for a few years, it's hard to come by videos from y'all that teach me something these days. I still really enjoy all the tech videos the same way I really enjoy carpool critics. But I'm glad that you guys still get the chance to put in nich and informative segments. Keep it up! I for one really enjoy it.

[@jaybee6280]

I know its not everyone's favorite thing, but I certainly appreciate the enthusiasm and coverage for some Linux topics even if they arent quite for the masses :p

[@quintus3236]

I love it too! I just love the tinkering and error solving.

[@vaibhavsrivastva1253]

The designer(s) of this phone = GENIUS ! All the necessary hardware control features are present; and if stock android is flashed on it, this could be a very good phone.

[@AnWe79]

Stock android would completely defeat the purpose of this phone. It's specifically made so you don't have to run an OS that's made to track your every move to spew ads in your face.

[@vaibhavsrivastva1253]

@@AnWe79 You misspelled iOS.

[@AnWe79]

@@vaibhavsrivastva1253 iOS, Android same difference if privacy is the goal. AOSP is different though, but that's another can of worms.

[@iamfrankstallone]

I worked at a local IT shop for 5 years after college. Anthony is 100% the type of people I loved to work with. Curious, authentic and a deep knowledge! Fun video... I'll never own one of these weird phones but good to know they exist!

[@karanssh]

I like KDE more than gnome - THANK YOU. The lord has spoken

[@Videotubelord]

QT is too buggy. Ubuntu is more promising.

[@hexa3389]

Peasants, bow before your king... Openbox

[@randomname3566]

@@Videotubelord But ubuntu touch is running on qt

[@AlexanderAhjolinna]

I also like KDE on desktop but on my phone I like to use SailfishOS (Xperia 10)

[@akojic5486]

Between I use Lxde ;-D

[@becca125]

“That is breath taking” *” You’re breath taking.”*

[@indianathe3rd742]

I was heavy breathing when I read that

[@aryehabramov5430]

Cyberpunk 2077

[@Beaches_south_of_L.A.]

That's not really your name.

[@alexioscoulissegur6733]

No you're👉 breath taking

[@encycl07pedia-]

breathtaking*

[@ryanfrommontana5236]

I know this vid is a bit old now but I just really enjoy Anthony’s reviews. Such a great calm personality. I really enjoy you dude !

[@KamBoat11]

"Well this seems to be a thing with my short circuits isn't it..." Poor Anthony lmaoo

[@avrahamhollander9296]

I really want a Linux phone that has good specs.

[@overlyobsolete2797]

Linux isn't android. It doesn't have to run stupidly ram heavy java apps. 1gb of ram is more than enough for linux, unless you're running something as bloated as ubuntu. The pinephone has extremely good specs for a linux device

[@avrahamhollander9296]

“1gb of ram is more than enough for Linux” If you want to install ANY modern Linux distribution and run things like a web browser alongside other apps, you’re gonna need at least 4 gigs of RAM to be comfortable. Technically, Linux is capable of running on mere megabytes of memory, but that’s a moot point here. Even the iPhone 12, running heavily optimized iOS, still has 6GB of RAM. Hell, my own machine running KDE with various services loaded uses 1.6GB at idle. Also, Ubuntu isn’t “bloated.” GNOME, which is the default desktop environment for Ubuntu, happens to use slightly more system resources than other desktop environments. So what you’re trying to say is that GNOME is “bloated,” which is also a ridiculously over exaggerated statement used by people who don’t like GNOME’s UI. Also, you can literally see the UI animations stuttering in the video. I’m sure there’s more software optimization to be done, but the PinePhone is made of very low-end hardware. Even a Core 2 Duo with 4GB of RAM will run Linux better than the PinePhone.

[@overlyobsolete2797]

@@avrahamhollander9296 you evidently have little experience with linux if you consider kde to be a light desktop environment. My daily is a pentium m machine with 1gb of ram running slitaz. Works fine

[@nikhilchouhan1802]

@@overlyobsolete2797 I think you don't have any experience with kde then. Kde in 2021 is using less ram than xfce. I don't know why, maybe xfce loads some apps beforehand but you gotta appreciate kde

[@vaibhavsrivastva1253]

@@overlyobsolete2797 People like you are the reason that the LINUX community is looked down upon.

[@itsdeonlol]

Even Anthony makes this $200 phone look cool! Also, it's very rare to see phones with removal back covers these days too.

[@Stevesteacher]

I would love Linux mobile to become more of a thing, have more focus on the OS, better hardware etc. This is pretty cool too, if I had $200 just laying around I would've definately got it so I can toy around with it

[@alvallac2171]

*would definitely get *so I could

[@Stevesteacher]

@@alvallac2171 The student has surpassed the teacher

[@kodyballard49]

PureOS, PostMarketOS, & SailfishOS are pretty interesting & great projects for Linux Phone OS options

[@tommygarson8592]

@@alvallac2171 no one cares lol

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

What's the point, they should just port it to Google Pixel phones.

[@_unseenhunter_5093]

If you're looking at modularity, the fairphone is a very interesting company. They make most of their phone modular so you can reduce the wastage from upgrading your phone and they source their metals using ethical supply chains they set up. I did a case study on them and was amazed by how they didn't just put out a public statement of how they are against wastage and took out the charger but instead, made a change through their product and sources. I would love to see a short circuit on it, even if the product isn't too complex.

[@craigmurray4746]

The only issue with Fairphone is getting one out of Europe. For whatever reason, Fairphone limits themselves to Europe and doesn't seem to be in a rush to expand. Even in Africa where they source much of the materials from.

[@ArtOfHealth]

Iode? Interesting philosophy.

[@prodge64]

I almost bought one but I read that there's a bug that screwed with either the call speaker or microphone, effectively rendering it not very good as an actual phone.

[@saranaili9518]

Fairphone is flagged as a scam

[@ArtOfHealth]

@@saranaili9518 I get seemingly honest emails from e.foundation. Whre did you hear that they were like that? Thanks

[@fuchsjan2337]

Plot twist: 1:12 the box was so much hard to open so that Anthony had to use his super speed and opened it with his secret super strength and the line that we see is the light created from the impact Edit: they got rid of the evidence of Anthony's super powers

[@shabbir.akhtar]

DUDE I thought my phone was broken, I’m so glad someone else saw this

[@monke5198]

Is the line fixed now? I can’t see it

[@jrk1]

@@monke5198 Ye it's fixed. Seem like KZbin re-process the whole video.

[@simmorsal]

I cant believe you didn't hook up the phone to a monitor and test that!

[@neko-san5965]

Honestly, with it struggling as much as it was just to simply be a phone, I doubt hooking it up would've improved the experience. I love Linux, but I can't honestly say I'd move to either of the mentioned devices when they are such a pain to use.

[@digitalspecter]

@@neko-san5965 Well, imagine getting it with non-ancient hardware.. I think a lot of the usability problems were due to the lack of processing power.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

@@digitalspecter That and not having a big corporation behind it

[@Roset03]

I was hoping he would test that as well, especially with UB Ports. (edit: spelling for 'test')

[@softwarelivre2389]

@@digitalspecter you mean the Pinephone Pro?

[@bartobowman3052]

Nobody: Anthony: I have another sd-card here with 30 operating systems

[@ryanb6503]

Anthony, answering the questions we never imagined to ask but should have.

[@davidmalkowski7850]

Tara is a garbage brawler, change my mind

[@zakmorgan9320]

That's BDE if I've ever seen it

[@izaicslinux6961]

He was testing Megi's Pboot bootloader demo... do note that it's running out of date software, as it's only a demo.

[@razzeeee]

Yeah, really hope he updated

[@danct12cp]

Just in case if you don't know, the ethernet is not gigabit. And the convergence package has 3GB RAM and 32GB storage.

[@riccardik]

I would guess that is because the usb is just 2.0

[@LINMOBnet]

@@riccardik That's part of it - the chipset in the dock just does 100 MBit/s.

[@Ikxi]

Yea, they should probably verify such things, and not just guess/assume.

[@InfernosReaper]

That's honestly okay because most people aren't going to need more than that on a phone whose storage and RAM aren't fast enough to matter. I'm more concerned with how everything else could end up bogging down on that dock.

[@quasarito]

11:20 "Okay, it is no longer decent", say Anthony the moment Riley appears on the screen. I don't know how to interpret this.

[@crypticnomad]

I ordered the newer pinephone last month and they said mid month this month for estimated shipments. I can't wait! I've been a full time linux user for over a decade and I've been waiting for something like this to come out at this level of functionality.

[@seshpenguin]

This is all about getting hardware into the hands of developers and enthusiasts! It solves the chicken+egg problem of developers don't have phone hardware to develop for, and most hardware won't come until the software.

[@Akkbar21]

It’s still a piece of garbage.

[@jdatlas4668]

@@Akkbar21 unlike the Librem it’s cheap enough to be legit interesting to tinker with though. Sure this isn’t for consumers as a real smartphone yet, but it’s amazing for enthusiasts and it’s sold at a price point where many of the, can justify it. I know I’m very tempted by it.

[@vgamesx1]

@@jdatlas4668 I agree that the price is reasonable but man, it still hurts knowing that you can go to pretty much any store and get a prepaid $100 smartphone that's something like 5 times better than this... In the next one they really need to at least match that sort of phone at double the price.

[@lcrazy8l]

@@Akkbar21 yea. I like to compare a Pi4 to a threadripper 3970x too.

[@Angel-mh8em]

@@vgamesx1 but can it run linux?

[@Arctic_silverstreak]

"It's got a vibrator~" _Anthony young 2021_

[@mattm1841]

"oww im gonna find that app" - also Anthony 2021-

[@arjdroid]

Damn, this is really impressive, I have a feeling that the Pinephone and its successors are going to become the raspberry pi of the phone market in terms of being awesome for tinkerers!

[@randombytes]

While they do need abit more work (although the pinephone pro is a step up from the original), they are more promising down the road. They just need to have more financial and developer support to get it up and going at a pace that can compete with android (especially since the phone has the potential of running android apps as well)

[@Ghi102]

I'm not sure it will be. Raspberry Pi 1 was what ~30$ on initial release? The latest Pi is also pretty cheap. That price point for a mini computer is attractive. Not so much 200$ for a sub par experience

[@ThirtytwoJ]

Moto z with the dev kit breadboard was actually quite tempting itself. Too bad lenovo is google on crack.

[@toboekey1273]

Its a piece of shit phone 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@damiengates7581]

@@Ghi102 rasberry pi and minimum attachments to make it usable has to be at least 100$ now

[@IrelandVonVicious]

They offer a 3gb ram version now. I bought for everyday use. I value not being spied on. I'm a Linux user but not an enthusiast. It's very comparable to Android phones in the same price range as far as hardware goes.

[@alesksander]

Nice. So witch OS is most suitable for basic functions?

[@TheTommyb171]

You can get a reconditioned oneplus 5t /6 at the same price, I love privacy in a Linux usare but at this price honestly you cant give people his shitty cpu

[@foc2241]

Wait, KZbin runs in the Background? Thats what we've been waiting for lol

[@PhilippBlum]

lmao. I run postmarket os on the galaxy a5 and that was literally also a topic I was blown away. Like yeahh Whatsapp etc. Who gives a f, but KZbin in the background? That's the stuff I want to have :D

[@rexsceleratorum1632]

Android is also perfectly capable of doing it, I think they originally killed it for battery reasons and now they seem to want to charge you money for it

[@PhilippBlum]

@@rexsceleratorum1632 of course. It's always the same.

[@sabin97]

i do that with firefox. the add-on is called "video background play fix". havent had any problems with it. you can send firefox to the background and still play youtube videos.

[@qlus]

@@chairmancat3668 a man of culture

[@cianbrady1557]

Finally something I can play cyberpunk on

[@jokinglimitreached1503]

Yeeaa, some Stadia or other cloud game streaming directly to the phone

[@airy_co]

Ubuntu touch looks great, what a shame he didn't play with it a bit more

[@destrierofdark_]

Of all the systems available, due to its age, it is the most mature. However, it is not even close to the things you would expect from Canonical's own breed; no apt update for you, because that will brick the system.

[@Cobalt985]

@@destrierofdark_ Ubuntu Touch is now exclusively a community project, but that's a bit disappointing for me. Personally I'd rather use KDE mobile, assuming it's at least a little less laggy than Phosh. All I really want is the Librem 5 but with an actually reasonable amount of power.

[@destrierofdark_]

@@Cobalt985 That will not happen unless Freescale/NXP step their game up and try to diverge out of the embedded space. The higher the sales of the Librem (and other phones with i.MX chips in them) the more financial incentive they will have to make a phone specific i.MX chip, fully open as we want it. On the other hand, yes, I know UT is now a community project, but it still bears, and will continue to carry, Canonical's genes. And this is not a bad thing, though the entire Pinephone (and mobile space in general) will require more optimization going forward. Graphics performance doesn't suck due to a weak GPU, it sucks due to a lack of optimization and acceleration.

[@Ellieakacija]

Just ordered this phone to play around with a couple of days ago Can’t wait to get it! Kinda regretting not getting the one with the dock though… just in case I need an external keyboard

[@kurosmael]

There is a strange glitch at 1:12. Except that, I'm really hyped by full Linux on phones 🥳

[@stevenbmeza]

I see it happening a lot more recently on LTT videos

[@toriel9780]

@@stevenbmeza I saw it not only on LTT videos multiple youtubers have that problem. I think it's a youtube issue.

[@stevenbmeza]

@@toriel9780 I don't watch a lot of anything else so it's quite likely it's a KZbin thing if it's affecting others.

[@Mohoutje015]

Im searching everywhere but i dont see a glitch at all

[@johnhankey3058]

@@toriel9780 Yea, it's been happening across all sorts of channels. My guess is that either it's a new bug in whatever editing software a bunch of KZbinrs collectively use, or it's a KZbin bug. Either way, no one seems to be talking about it yet

[@mozaic_channel]

The six contacts on the back are pogo pins, for accessories: keyboard is in the works, wireless charging back case, IR cameras, etc... it’s a cool tinker device but really cool community to check out. I’m going to try Sailfish OS next on mine which appears to be a decent experience

[@TerminalWorld]

"I have an SD Card with 30 operating systems on it!" Make a video about that!

[@cadywelp235]

My USB stick has about 15, using Ventoy

[@Chris03528]

"Will it play KZbin videos?" Now that's a phrase straight from the prehistoric era.

[@ashpatel7164]

I see Anthony, I click. Watched to the end.missed an important meeting, not even mad. Totally worth it

[@OddlyIncredible]

The words "important meeting" almost never belong together in a sentence.

[@jojobobbubble5688]

I see Anthony and Linux, I watch, click like and leave a comment for the algorithms.

[@DigitalMoonlight]

The eMMC module is removable and can be put into a USB caddy to use as a thumb drive if all else fails. It's also replaceable so it is impossible to brick it in software and if the storage dies you can still get reasonably fast replacement storage and even larger storage.

[@jkeezy93]

You can replace a really really slow phone really fast! So you can get back to going slow again!

[@0x1EGEN]

I feel like they made it more complicated to use a removable eMMC instead of just a normal MMC... AKA: An SD card. eMMC stands for "embedded multimedia card". Effectively an SD card soldered to the board. They took something already removable, made it non removable and then made it removable again. Lol

[@DigitalMoonlight]

​@@0x1EGEN The devil is in the details, eMMC and it's parent protocol MMC are not quite the same as SD cards, they have a wider bus width which allows for better performance than the basic SDXC controllers you usually get on cheap devices. They also tend to have much better endurance than most SD cards. Theres some other minor considerations to make but eMMC is the better option in this specific case imho.

[@0x1EGEN]

@@DigitalMoonlight The endurance aren't that much better. They both use the exact same type of flash memory. But yeah I suppose for the performance the trade off is better.

[@a.sanusinazareth9213]

I love the way you describe and explain it on detail. It's like a tutorial in a bunch of product review. Great experience here. Thanks

[@Voyajer.]

One of these with a modern screen resolution and processor is my dream phone.

[@skybldev]

Sadly a lot of modern processors are made by Qualcomm or MedaTek which have very privacy-limiting features baked in.

[@josuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu1780]

"Imagine a removable battery." - this post was made by the young people gang

[@overlyobsolete2797]

- imagine being so young you haven't used a phone prior to 2015

[@Cobalt985]

@@overlyobsolete2797 yeah idk, I'm 18 and a few years ago my main phone was an LG G4 which does have a removable battery

[@mikebiff]

The way he removed it and ripped off the tool that helps you remove it after... Lmao

[@p6n7l]

@@Cobalt985 yeah i ve had a phone with a removable battery way after 2015 lmao

[@paulstubbs2778]

@@mikebiff Amazing he didn't do a segway into an ifixit toolkit ad.

[@asuugurung]

linus in the video : "that is breath taking!" Anthony: you are breath taking 😂

[@DynoRC]

That's what i commented on the original video :)

[@psisis7423]

@@imran5373 yeah and so is your profile

[@norayr3975]

This was the weirdest tech video I had ever seen, and I loved it. I'm still laughing because of that keyboard part.

[@thearousedeunuch]

Think of it as a compact Raspberry Pi with a touch screen, and it starts to make some sense. Ubuntu Touch helped things a lot on the performance department. However, I feel like those toggles should be on the outside, with a plastic or glass cover over them. It would make sense for someone to want to enable/disable those in a hurry, with as little stuff getting in the way as possible.

[@Ke3per88]

It's got to the point where I see Anthony in the thumb and think, yep, that'll be good, lets go.

[@HeikkiKetoharju]

THIS is the kind of content I like! Hacking with weird stuff. "Three days later: can we get it to boot today?"

[@IM-jk4kf]

man, i have been wanting this so bad for so long, i just need to make calls, receive sms and get a real terminal that can run code. This is the makers dream phone

[@Manks08]

Those hardware switches were very interesting, would love to see more privacy tools built into phones going forward.

[@Rolley189]

I know it would add cost but I really like the retractable front camera idea. Or maybe a visible iris.

[@toutenmagma7140]

the microphone switch would have been nice outside, imagine you're getting a call and you're just there staring at your nerdy life decisions, waiting for the phone to stop ringing so you can open it...

[@Rolley189]

@@toutenmagma7140 Maybe have them recessed on the side/bottom.

[@Garrettdx1988]

I feel like Ubuntu touch is the most developed. Remember everybody putting that on their Nexuses back in the day?

[@АлексейГриднев-и7р]

"Back in the day"? I'm doing it now! :-D

[@ParsianTV]

I had it on my HTC HD2 ;) good old days when HTC was around and they didn't lock things up.

[@AlucardaPapere]

Finallly, I waited this video for AGES! I honestly can't wait for an updated version of this with something like the rk3566

[@moved5600]

Using Mobian on my Pinephone right now and things have improved a lot, especially with the camera.

[@RichieW]

If you think this was a bad setup... I spent an hour looking for something to open the simcard drawer on my new iphone in my house when I got it only to learn, just after I was successful that there was one provided in the box. XD

[@paulstubbs2778]

Shsss, don't speak to loud, or it will go the way of the included charger.

[@MrReese]

These Anthony first impression videos are amazing, keep em coming!

[@Duffman19370]

3:55 genius Anthony you bring so much to this crew, we thank you 🙌

[@mdo]

I love what they're trying to do here but damn that hardware is ancient. I had the Mali 400 in my first tablet 10 years ago and even back then it was painfully slow.

[@necromax13]

Thsts like the GPU on the very first Moto G. That's rough.

[@ApplePi1]

Yay! Another ShortCircuit video with Anthony!

[@BlommaBaumbart]

The Community Edition isn't for Linux enthusiasts, it's for Linux developers. It's a devboard for developing phone software.

[@izaicslinux6961]

I'm involved with pine64, and i can say for a fact that it is actually intended for enthusiasts too who have solid experience. It says so on the store page as well. It's just not intended to be bought by consumers yet (aka people with little linux experience or none at all).

[@expertbacon6447]

It now in beta (was in alpha) so it for sure for enthusiast but not consumers

[@rayproductionsbackupchanne3862]

@@izaicslinux6961 is there going to be way more capable devices coming in the somewhat near future? I've been trying to get Linux working on a lumia 950 xl for ages so i can learn and dive more into linux since I love hand held but the device lacks the support.. Any decent device would be amazing to mess around with

[@SoundToxin]

@@rayproductionsbackupchanne3862 Check out the list of devices supported by postmarketOS. Besides the PinePhone, they also support a bunch of Android phones and tablets.

[@BlommaBaumbart]

@@expertbacon6447 ​ @IzaicNix ​It is NOW in Beta, it wasn't in the Mobian CE reviewed here. And Erecinski wrote a mere four days ago: "the software isn’t yet at a stage where we’d be comfortable selling the PinePhone as an end-user ready product; even if the target end-users of the PinePhone are informed Linux enthusiasts." The store page only says "[if you're an enthusiast] the PinePhone may be the next Phone for you", it doesn't say that the phone is already usable for that right now.

[@deathsyth8888]

Muta has found his new phone. Now only if you could create a VM on it, then it would be perfect!

[@mynameisearlb]

I bet you probably could, however getting the display to work is probably another story.

[@Friedermanns]

Good review, quite critic and worthy. I'd like to see more about the Ubuntu Touch OS and the PinePone screen capabilities, but you tried more than one OS in the same video..Well, keep it on.

[@spooforbrains]

I had written this thing off until he mentioned the price. To be able to sell something like that for $200 is extremely impressive.

[@davideyt1242]

it's a "community" price, this device is being improved, but still clings mostly to linux users, or people who want an alternative to giant tech, the phone is functional but still have it's own bugs and glitches. if this phone was being commercially developed, and had offered customer support instead of a community support, it would cost at least $100-150 more

[@simplybeanjelly]

Actually, having a dock included is awesome! You have a full Linux computer that fits in your pocket and you could have the dock plugged into a monitor, keyboard, and mouse on a desk that you can just plug it into when you want extra functionality. I think that's awesome and I would actually consider buying something like this for that reason. I just think they need a little more time for development

[@meinbherpieg4723]

"I'm just gonna go ahead and, peel that right off..." oh yeah, that's the good stuff.

[@aashaynandoskar6862]

Gasps in Andy!

[@loganhebert7475]

My dude. You should try minoxidil and finsteride. I was as bad as you. Trying to help a brother out.

[@zzzacksnacxx1407]

Can you guys just give it to Anthony and have him daily drive it for a few months and turn it to a beast

[@cedricpomerleau5586]

I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t want to daily drive it... It’s incredibly slow and it’s literally the opposite of what Anthony loves in a phone : iOS.

[@zzzacksnacxx1407]

@@cedricpomerleau5586 I get that but just imagine what he could do with it with time. I wish they would do follow up video's with stuff like these to show what they are capable of when time is invested into it

[@ludwiglilienstrom7756]

Yaay. Andy! Video quality increases by at least 69% when he is hosting. Nice.

[@Beaches_south_of_L.A.]

This guy is cool. He's really smart and actually I think he's the glue that keeps LTT ship afloat.

[@yourmum69_420]

@TechMarxist is that sarcasm?

[@1olddoggie]

I havent yet found anyone who will talk about which cell phone networks it can work on. I couldnt quickly see that obvious question addressed in the reviews and their site. I enjoy your videos. I am a newbie to Linux and learnimg a lot.

[@SAEWMD]

Still waiting for that Linux with Anthony series!