You've NEVER seen a Caveat this big - PeakDo mmWave Handheld

[@JKHYT]

for the love of god what is the point if I'm going to be within line of sight of the actual device anyway??? this is the most smooth brain device I've seen all year

[@handlemonium]

Perfect passive parential controls for helicopter parents IMO 😏👌

[@kychu1116]

I honestly think there is niche for this product i don't this I will get it but I can see a small market for it

[@Overflow066]

I could maybe see me using this in my bed next to my desk where my laptop is. But really getting a TV for that price might be a better option.

[@danielschinke6992]

You can use it with an extension cord and have it function in the whole room, like an antenna. I have a 1000$ handheld that 70% of the time i use it laying in my room. this solution would me lighter, have more battery time and would allow me to have way better graphics and performance for when Im using it like that. And it has a plus side of being compatible with any hdmi console. The tecnology is sound but I dont know if this product can do it, but its also possible to have multiple "antennas" transmiting the signal through the house so that you can use it in any room.

[@Viirax]

It's such a big oversight, like, most consoles and desktop PCs have the HDMI port on the back, where it can't be seen unless the user has specifically set it up sideways to make it visible. If it wasn't for that and the very high price, I could almost justify it for a dual screen emulation device or something, but yikes, I couldn't use it with my PC or any of my consoles even if I was still sitting in front of all my monitors...

[@lianglqufo]

Purpose of streaming handheld: you don’t have to stay in front of your source. PeakDo: hold my beer. 😂

[@WickedGamerCollector]

Yup.. what a problem that is 😅

[@Xjuijau]

Yeah at this point I would rather just get very long hdmi cable 😅

[@tinnyfoiler7126]

why cant you just have a large tv big enough to see from bed and controller why would anyone need a handheld tiny screen and less freedom u have to hold it up

[@theElemDragon]

Not only this, but you need a seperate USB hub JUST for the damn thing. I mean what the hell? two separate chargers for each "fauxcon", another for the display part, another USB to power the wireless HDMI dongle, and yet another for the bluetooth adapter (assuming the computer doesn't have built-in bluetooth)?

[@whollymindless]

How can we release something even more lame than the Playstation Portal?

[@jturk9855]

Thank god! I always dreamed of playing my nintendo switch as a portable device!

[@NinjAsylum]

You mean as a 'NON' Portable device .. right?

[@Pixel_J]

I think jturk9855 was being sarcastic

[@simonrockstream]

this isnt even portable.

[@chompsxbite3050]

Petition to make a symbol for sarcasm in text.

[@jaymills1111]

@@chompsxbite3050 /s

[@gren8215]

I’m so confused at why they included a travel case

[@imperialdra-mon5907]

Thank God I wasn't the only one

[@nucleard3]

The only reason I can think of is to keep track of all the cables and stuff when you get sick of the thing after a few hours.

[@danfr]

Presumably so they could also target a niche market of people that already travel with gaming laptops but also play games that they think this would be a better form factor for.

[@chadmasta5]

I wouldn't be surprised if the case and controllers weren't even made by them and were just 3rd party switch accessories they got cheap and threw in the box.

[@Better4YourSoulFood]

The case is for your ROG ASUS OR STEAM DECK

[@rikou1986]

Wait you need line of sight with the computer? Why don't you just plug a controller in at that point.

[@bandito241]

Maybe you want to play with your back to it, for some reason.

[@marekmiks5177]

​@@bandito241Well this can't do that, your back would cover the line of sight 😂

[@AltonV]

@@marekmiks5177 hdmi extension cable

[@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis]

​. Also a usb extension cable

[@marekmiks5177]

@@exdeathex3949 Honestly, at that point you could just get a little portable monitor and a controller 😂

[@martinturner5484]

Finally someone has made a device that lets me play on my PC when I'm sitting in front of my PC. I've been waiting years for something like this.

[@PixelatedH2O]

The idea behind this seemed to be "how much can we borrow from Nintendo while also being really inconvenient and complicated?"

[@karehaqt]

Borrow is such a weird way to spell the word steal.

[@PixelatedH2O]

@@karehaqt well I don't know for sure that they couldn't legally take what they did

[@readyforlol]

Or "how much can we strip out of a Steam Deck while keeping the same price ?"

[@christopherhart7008]

I mean it’s really how I played the Wii U. It basically turns all devices into a Wii U

[@chadmasta5]

There's no way this isn't infringing on a patent with those joycon rails lol.

[@Poisons666]

Even with Riley's charm as a host, you can't make this look like more than e-waste

[@marcialpena2730]

"There was a time when game streaming was looked down upon" proceeds to introduce the worst possible use case for game streaming I've ever seen

[@DocNx]

I can't imagine the use case I wouldn't just use my PC with a regular controller if I was right in front of my PC..

[@pismodude2]

Someone just ran into your home and stole your monitor, you're waiting for a new one to arrive in the mail, time to bust out this bad boy for a few days am I right

[@gjorgdy]

@@pismodude2 That's why we have next day delivery

[@Haven1500]

im a student and my pc is my room; it would be nice to have my pc performace from my bed scince its not far away

[@RyTrapp0]

@@gjorgdy I live 30 mins from an Amazon distro - bet I could find some same day delivery monitors LOL

[@imperialdra-mon5907]

​​@@Haven1500 did you watch the video kid?

[@ignaspincevicius3134]

Other than a very limited use case for such device, I find it bizarre to think that you have to have it in line of sight, but also requires HDMI which is basically always at the back of your device. If it's a PC or a console, it'll be probably facing the wall or something and would require a HDMI extension cable to then hang it somewhere on the wall so it can "see" further. Both of my consoles are in a cabinet, so there's no clear line of sight to the back of them from any angle, so goes for my PC, it's where all the cables are, I hide them.

[@MrGedem]

In Spider Man section I can count 2 frames of latency at 30 fps youtube video - it is about 66 ms video latency. Really this device fails in it's only selling feature.

[@Damian-rp2iv]

what's wrong with an extension cable? it pretty nice to not have a dongle with a "forced" cable on it, then it's up to you to use it properly But that indeed need a lot of planning, as for console you may also want to use a HDMI splitter if you does not plan to use it only through this. To me the usecase is clear tho: A family's room with a TV and a console/pc, but something you want to play while someone else want to watch the TV so you take the second screen. Not something too unusual as even Nintendo invest into this at some point

[@ignaspincevicius3134]

@@Damian-rp2iv Sure, but if you are in the room with other people, it's likely they would move around, which means you lose the connection, because it's so sensitive. Again, it's cool and all, but HTC Vive had a wireless adapter which also uses 60GHz signal to transmit the gameplay wirelessly from your PC and I remember it being less jank.

[@Damian-rp2iv]

@@ignaspincevicius3134 If someone goes in front of the TV you're using you would also "lose the connection" :D But yeah, totally agree on the weakness of this tech If it was really lag free it could be super interesting, but I've indeed had latency as low using cloud gaming so... In another hand, I still like the "software free" setup, where you really just have to plug a "wireless" hdmi device that this kind of tech offer, and the switch form factor for the screen is interesting So not perfect, but some usage and still cool that it exist :)

[@xathridtech727]

​@@Damian-rp2ivsometimes things that are "cool that it exist" flop so hard that no other company will dare try it

[@Secret_Takodachi]

I love my 256Gb Steam Deck, no thoughts on this product. "If you've got nothing nice to say..." and all that.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

Yup and you can also stream your pc to the steam deck or the steam deck to your pc if you really want to lol .

[@chadmasta5]

​@@ThaexakaMavroPlus there's ps4/5 and xbox remote play apps you can run on it too. The only console you can't remote play is switch but you can either emulate that or just use a switch. Which is already portable.

[@stick100-1]

It's too bad they didn't include both 5ghz and 60ghz then you could have exceptional streaming in line of sight and decent otherwise. As it is it's super limited and not quite cheap enough, and a cheap steamdeck seems like a much better idea. If this got down to $100 I could see it as a perfect use in a living room with one per console for multiple uses as a basic tv replacement but as is it costs too much for what you get. It also really needs to come with clips to let you use a xbox controller/ps5 controller with it natively.

[@NamanArusia]

This feels more like a proof-of-concept than anything else. PeakDo were so busy with whether they could, they never stopped to think if they should.

[@DanielHands]

If you pause at 8:52 and go frame by frame with the < and > keys you can see about a 2 frame latency difference between the laptop and the handheld.

[@jakep1481]

Literal e-waste out the door. The line of sight requirement defeats the purpose of streaming the game to a handheld. What about tower pcs where the hdmi output is going to be on the backside?

[@jorge69696]

Also on the back for consoles plus a pain in the ass having to get back there to turn it on or off.

[@othi-k2k]

This is indeed one of the device of all time

[@typingcat1814]

I recently strongly considered a Peakdo (because my use case is pretty much exactly what Riley describes). I'm glad I didn't. Instead, I got a crappy old laptop, and set up Moonlight on it (and Sunshine on my gaming desktop), and the performance is absolutely mind-blowing. It requires a bit more setup compared to mmWave, but it also gives me more options--I can go wired over Ethernet, for example, if I want top performance without worrying about my WiFi signal.

[@jivewig]

Exactly!! Moonlight is awesome and it makes so much more sense. I used it a lot alongside my Nvidia laptop using Nvidia Gamestream (RIP) and I’m a big fan of it! You can play games in a different room, or with IPv6, even in a different house without any problems. Not just that, you can also use the service to use the client device as a screen share over the network with touchscreen support. This keeps all of the fan noise and the heat away from you. The mmWave thing seems so pointless if a line of sight is mandatory.

[@greylawson6352]

I love that their marketing says “No built in CPU” as if you could just run a whole OS and stream games with just a screen attached to an empty box 😂

[@accik]

Yeah and the other marketing bs

[@ougonce]

This is very petty. The point they're making with "no built in CPU" is that the games are not processed on the handheld, and it's very clear to everyone.

[@greylawson6352]

@@ougonce It’s not petty, their marketing is just blatantly inaccurate. In the tech space, details and accuracy matters because every little component plays a role in the overall experience of using the product.

[@ougonce]

@@greylawson6352 Except it isn't, because marketing isn't shoving a spec sheet in front of potential buyers. It's the same reason why you don't see HDDs being advertised in Tebibytes. Being truthful about specs is definitely important, and not doing so could even be illegal (which, in my opinion, HDD size advertisement should fall into). But claiming a device doesn't have a CPU when it ☝🤓 ackshually has one for decoding the video signal is not misleading. It's like saying Apple is misleading their customers by not factoring in the hidden emergency battery in their advertised battery life specs. It makes no sense.

[@mintyemerald3935]

I like how the controller on it is literally just a switch third-party joycon in fact I think that might be specifically a BinBok Joycon

[@FluttershyIsAGoddess]

10:05 Homie, what's the point of streaming switch? It's already portable.

[@thebuddercweeper]

this basically turns anything with a HDMI port into a Wii U. I really wish it had a bit more conventional (maybe wifi direct?) backup because the line of sight requirement seems like it will get in the way quite a bit.

[@alexatkin]

That and the transmitter being a dongle, so on a console you'd need the rear facing you for it to work at all, kinda silly.

[@coryvallad7578]

@@alexatkin most consoles have a usb port on the front ....

[@greenprotag]

I have been using this general "type" of in-home streaming tech for ages, but the millimeter waves tuff is just not affordable... yet. Now IF this was around the $99-199 mark you MIGHT see an uptick in sales. Primarily because using your PC like a WiiU is a really NICE option. I wonder if you could have this hooked up to a KVM along with a logitch wireless keyboard and use hotkeys to cycle through different devices? Just have 3 + devices hooked up and just cycle through them as long as the dongle and the "host" machine support the controller interface... you are golden.

[@fearbot69]

I've been doing this with my Vita and Switch for a while now. Pretty much all of those little emulator consoles on the market running Linux with built in WiFi can run Moonlight also. Thank you Nvidia for the Shield and thanks to all the folks who worked on Moonlight and Sunlight.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

Just bought a Shield. Haven't even gotten into any of the finer points of it's use but it already rules. Been playing free demos on GeForce Now and it's been great. Haven't been a vidya gaymer in 20 years and I'm loving it!

[@samstokman2956]

I just use my phone( with a controller clip) or tablet with controller or keyboard and mouse. Works flawlessly, just a few milliseconds of latancy but I can manage if it enables me to play on the other side of the country with just a few milliseconds of lag

[@doslover]

Amazing! Now I can sit directly in front of my computer and stream games from it without having to actually look at it for only $350!

[@tyler3201]

I expected it to be 150 max. That 350 price is outrageous.

[@plaonder]

Reminds me of the Wii U, cool to use since you can play the console when someone else is using the TV, but you couldn’t go anywhere else with it. That’s what I ended up falling in love with on the switch and steam deck. The ability to go anywhere I want and have a good gaming experience is too valuable to me.

[@imperialdra-mon5907]

The wij u is better

[@plaonder]

@@imperialdra-mon5907 I love my Wii U

[@ZeoWorks]

As someone who works with programming streaming software it's honestly more convenient to use GPU Encoding/Decoding over network. Latency is as low as 10ms these days for HEVC.

[@FoleyOver]

lets take the switch (a portable handheld console) and stream games to a portable handheld device that we cant use if we're more than 10ft away. Revolutionary technology. These guys are changing the game and I'm here for it

[@Zealdesu]

i mean it did confirmed one of the claim being that it has almost no latency but it also fails because it loses the purpose of being a handheld

[@zodiacfml]

I found a use case that I might consider. What if you a type of person that can't buy a TV or monitor because you travel and/or renting a small space but can't go without a console or PC? This is the solution. However at this price, micro-oled glasses is a strong contender. A more expensive option are portable laser projectors at $700-$800

[@CookinBeatloaf]

They make travel monitors that are basically a dump iPad with audio video input

[@AnotherFreakingDude]

A kinda weird setup I used some years ago, was to carry a desktop PC in a backpack (I had made a backpack PC hybrid at the time), and to plug it into the wall, it would stream to my (considerably less powerful) laptop or phone over a 5GHz wifi dongle over at a desk or couch. Sketchy AF but it did work, a somewhat portable desktop PC for when you need the horsepower but don't have a gaming laptop or the space to setup a monitor, keyboard, etc.

[@gamefun2525]

What people fail to realise is that this could also work as a wireless HDMI and get rid of clunky hdmi cables so you can mount your monitor/tv on the wall seamlessly and have no ugly looking cords running across your devices

[@megajatt123]

U still have to run pieer to the thingso how does it matter lmao

[@febbio9285]

I think those controllers are an imitation (if not them honestly) of the Nyxi/Binbok joycons. That’s why they have a Nintendo Switch button layout and that’s also why the rails are compatible with joycons, because they are joycons, kinda.

[@theroguenob]

If they added an attachment to create a larger antenna I would absolutely buy that, it's kind of what I'm looking for.

[@elone3997]

It looked like it had massive latency from controller input to screen update 😲??! 8:10 shows the laptop updating way quicker than the handheld. Riley did a 180 on it being bad latency to fine..I'm confused!

[@Ditto_Plush]

Agreed! That latency is unacceptable for any game that requires reactionary input. Slow or turn-based games, sure. But in esport games and games like Red Dead you would be at a disadvantage; one that I consider to be significant based on how easily I noticed the latency in the video.

[@elone3997]

@@Ditto_Plush Yup I agree also. A total lag fest! Riley called it right as feeling off at the start. When he called Jake over however, Jake says it's fine looking a bit bemused on what the problem is, even when the two screens are clearly out of sync. Then the review changes to it being fine and dandy. Very odd.

[@yo.poldoo]

I'm using those clear joycons too on my switch it's from IINE bought it for $40. It's made specifically for nintendo switch. I'm surprised that they're selling it at that price.

[@GSpacmanvice]

If your technical enough, you can use a USB over Ethernet adapter and an HDMI over Ethernet adapter to pug the dongle in at a hogh point of a room to have better coverage. These are solutions normally used in a Corporate Board Room solution.

[@CheapBastard1988]

Last time I checked (years ago), those HDMI over ethernet adapters were quite expensive. Even if you only need HDMI 1.4.

[@gamefun2525]

programs like parsec and moonlight do a decent job over 5ghz wifi

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

It would be much cheaper and easier to just use a long USB and HDMI cable - if you exceed the range for standard passive cables you can get fibre optic or active extension cables that will happily transmit all the bandwidth this will ever need for relatively low cost and with probably slightly less latency. HDBaseT is really only meant for situations where you've already got Cat5e or Cat6 cable runs and is only really meant to save you from having to bury another cable in your wall.

[@Praxss]

@@gamefun2525yes exactly, means for 1080p 60hz 5ghz wifi is more than enough if source is connected wired

[@coitcordery8501]

After reading through the comments on their kickstarter and indiegogo the fact that they could only sell 400 units, coupled with the fact that they are selling the units at the same price early backers paid, I'd venture to say that they are trying to dump the remaining units from what was probably their initial production run. Doesn't bode well for the longevity of the device. Certified E waste...

[@danielarcher4060]

I wonder how many of the 400 buyers knew what it really was when they bought it.

[@leetween7232]

This is such a niche product. I really like the clear controllers! MORE CLEAR ELECTRONICS lol

[@imperialdra-mon5907]

More like its e-waste there is no real situation to use it

[@chadmasta5]

3rd party clear joycons are a dime a dozen on online retailers. If you want them they can be had for far less than this thing is worth.

[@joshuafieldhouse1405]

I actually bought this on the super early bird kickstarter and regret buying it. I figured it would be the cheapest alternative to getting good visual fidelity. However, even though i can enjoy my games at my preferred settings just fine, everything is just sub-par. My setup is my wife and i live in a one bedroom apartment with the porch area enclosed. That's where my desk is. I can plug this thing into my laptop angled towards the couch so i can play games while being next to her on the couch while watching tv. It works, but is not ideal. The controllers are the worst part! The ergonomics are horrible, and that's with me having small hands, and i constantly have to re-pair them to the Bluetooth receiver every time i turn them on. I wouldn't advise anyone to get this thing. It would be better to get something else like a switch or steam deck... or literally anything else.

[@Chipsaru]

Looks like the intent is when you don't have space for big TV, so you connect to your console remotely

[@Sadtiric]

This feels like a solid stepping-stone to something better in the (hopefully) near future.

[@EntonationStudios]

If the transmitting didn’t have to be line of sight, I would love to be able to have a monitor in the next room connected to my gaming pc.

[@eggcopter]

hopefully, something like higher res or higher refresh, over 5ghz wireless chipset. surely with DSC and CVT-RB2 they can make it work? but then it is still incredibly niche, for one i don't want a portable steam deck, i want to plug decoder size to my laptop to be displayed and given latency involved decoding and displaying an image, might as well go for something like NV geforce gamestream or parsec

[@EntonationStudios]

@@eggcopter yep, I’ve been using moonlight streaming at a bitrate of 120 mbps and it’s pretty close to perfect save for a bit of latency.

[@robinbegley1077]

Alas, 60Ghz is limited to line of sight.(humidity in the air absorbing the signal is even a factor at this frequency) 5Ghz wifi is only "so good" and cellphones got most of the remaining space. I don't see much room for improvement.

[@Sadtiric]

@@EntonationStudios a cable through the wall with a dongle on the other side isn't so bad though. I do that currently with a server in the next room.

[@adamalarcon4973]

I'm 99% certain those joycons on the Peakdo are usable on the switch. Those look exactly like generic replacement joycons from Nyxi or Binbok or whatever generic brand they're stamped with. They're more comfortable than the stock joycons so that's a plus.

[@Alcoholic_Nerd]

If only you guys had a channel specifically about gaming......

[@lordraj365]

Riley's way of hosting is really soothing and funny!

[@rahullotia90]

At 7:10 anyone noticed that the controllers are called joy cons..... lol

[@MaethorDerien]

I think the problem was the mm wave is kinda useless due to the line of sight. Swap that out for 6e which is already typically low enough latency that you can do VR streaming and I think it might actually have an audience. Also that price is absolutely insane for something just streaming with those kinds of specs, seriously at that price I would expect a 1080p amoled screen.

[@MikeY-1st]

I was really psyched up until the "cant stream to a different room" part :/

[@MichaelBlock]

This is basically like the Wii U, how it had a handheld that you can play the game on instead of the TV, but could only be used in the same room as the main console

[@lifeisgood12341]

I was curious, then i was confused, then more confused, then surprised Nintendo hasn't sued them, then confused again for one of the strangest devices ive ever seen

[@ehrenloudermilk1053]

I'm gonna get this to stream games from my steam deck. Handheld inception.

[@fios4528]

Isn't that just a WiiU with extra steps?

[@Mirinmaru]

The WiiU is a masterpiece compared to this crap.

[@heyspookyboogie644]

I really don’t get the point of this. They might as well have just had it had an hdmi input or something. If you have to be line of sight, even with a cable to better place the dongle, you still have to be so close to the source device that you might as well just use a controller on the source device.

[@krisdphillips]

This is one of those products that are a solution in search of a problem. Especially at $350, it's only $50 cheaper than a Steam Deck that can stream over 5Ghz with very little added latency AND play games locally with no latency.

[@danielarcher4060]

The price point is insane. Even if it was the best streaming device ever, why not just get a Steam Deck which does the same and more. Blows my mind.

[@Pocahonkers]

Doesn't this thing needing line of sight to the transmitter kind of....defeat the whole point of streaming? I mean if I need to _see_ my PC, it can't be too far away to just actually use my PC. And with that pricetag I mean...just put another 50$ ontop and buy a Steam Deck, if you're just going to do streaming you don't even need to change the SSD or anything. Sure it doesn't have a fancy (janky) "low latency" dongle contraption but I've personally had a very solid experience streaming games via Steam Link even with just 5GHz Wi-Fi. Clear plastic is a vibe tho, gotta give them that.

[@CreativityNull]

Yeah, I don't know who this is for since you need line of sight. Maybe it's good for someone who wants to lie down instead of craning a head towards a TV in bed or something. Pretty niche though. I'll stick to streaming to my living room TV from my bedroom PC or steamdeck through network methods.

[@Sebbir]

Wow playing my switch games on a handheld while not being able to leave my house sounds like a dream come true

[@jubuttib]

8:11 The latency on the device itself seems to be about 1 frame behind in the video at least (there are some very distinct changes in the camera movement that makes counting frames easy), which on a 30 fps video means at worst like ~33ms latency. That's better than what many consoles add vs. running that same game on PC.

[@LilPeener]

Wow! Now I can play my PC games while being no more than 10 feet away from my PC 🤯🤯🤯

[@M4rio21]

This is a great idea. The only tweak i would make is include some type of processor inside the machine, along with some type of storage module so that i could play my games natively. Other than that small tweak, it's a solid product.

[@cmdr_elfin2020]

So as long as you sit right next to what ever you are streaming from it work's great!!!

[@kennethd4958]

I can stream from my PC (And PS5) with my AYN Odin Lite... it has WiFi 6 and works great anywhere in my house...But I can also play games natively.. And its about $150 less than the PeakDo... What purpose does this PeakDo serve?

[@masteroogway6660]

Steam link already does all this but you can use a 5 generation old Samsung you had in a drawer anyway in a $25 razer kishi

[@acedfirefist]

Me: If this works relatively consistently and doesn't drop all the time I could see a real use for it as a married guy. Not spending the hours in my office where I just worked for 8 hours to now game a bit, could do the same but on the couch, still gaming but present while she does whatever. Riley: But you need line of sight Me: I... what?

[@nanaki-seto]

No lie the concept is damn cool and there is no technical reason why they could not use the mm wave for the controls as well. I suspect though the reason they went this route is this allows for 3rd party controllers and compat with the switch where as using mm wave on the controllers would increase cost for 2x more transceivers or require them to be non removable It is an option for them to consider in the future i suspect they likely are already looking at that

[@emma70707]

Yeah, I was kinda disappointed by that. There doesn't seem to be much advantage for this device versus getting their generic transmitter, a portable screen, and your own Bluetooth controller. Since you'd need to bring your own computer along too, it's not like you really need the portability for transit so the versatility/extra screen space would seem to win out in situations like open concept floor plans and studios where you want to game from bed/couches that are further away from a desk PC.

[@smoothyuk]

4:44 pretty sure that doohicky in the case is to punish the unit when the delay on this thing causes you to lose to a boss.

[@Tridaak]

Not seeing much of the point, I already have a tablet by my bedside, I can run a cable from my PC to my tablet and connect the xbox controller directly to my PC (using bluetooth or an RC adapter). There's some really long good, thin, quality USB cables out there, like the one found in the oculus which I use.

[@Tridaak]

And because it's cable, there's also no latency.

[@fish9468]

2:15 I'm dying laughing at Riley's reflection in the screen

[@rmking_beats]

Can't think of a single scenario where this thing would be useful

[@raidzor5452]

Well then you honestly aren't too good at thinking... If you have a powerful gaming PC but want to play games comfortably laying in bed or on the couch? Or maybe, as mentioned in the video, be able to do different things while only having one tv?

[@n0tIikethis]

I have a steam deck and it manages zero latency as far as I can determine, would be nice to test this, I also streamed Control to my steam deck via 4g/FTTN and i was 36km away and i didnt notice much latency at all as well.

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

Since you mention FTTN I assume you're based in Australia; my latency back to my home system from a 4G device is about 50ms on a really good day, which isn't great but is definitely manageable for single player games since that's well within the sort of latencies considered acceptable for casual online multiplayer stuff (streaming an online multiplayer game is a different story because the total round trip latency would be additive).

[@arunitoghatak]

Yk it's bad when it makes the Q handheld look like a great idea

[@andrewpopoff3453]

I could a use case if you're going somewhere for an extended period and would like to game in your off time, so you'd like to bring your computer with minimal peripherals as where you're staying you cannot set up a battle station. Think holidays/vacation at a relative's house, you've got a bad and that's about it, set your tower on the floor and game away

[@aryansingh5242]

In a few years i can see this type of gaming being a norm. I myself would like one when the line of sight flaw is fixed.

[@JacobProbasco]

What about connecting it to a Sony A7iii as a camera/video viewfinder (with remote??)?

[@rayskinner4289]

Didn’t Linus ban Newegg from advertising for all the shady stuff last year?

[@EyesOfByes]

So, you could get a second hand ROG Phone and use the WiGig to stream 5Gbps GeForce Now. You do need a 10Gbit internet service, and one of the few 10Gbit 802.11ad routers. I had the TP-Link AD7200 with an ROG Phone 2 (20m2 apartment), and that router only had 1Gig ports

[@EdTheNerd]

Good thing this device that needs line of sight came with travel case

[@nitmare64]

So its like Sony Project Q?

[@EricKöhn]

Thank you for informing us on this product Student 1 from "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" episode "Friendship University".

[@0Rookie0]

I guess the dongle transmitter could go on a hdmi cord that reaches where ever you want it to right? Like a lighthouse or the old external ir recievers for tv/vcr/dvd setups. Or a kinect.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

Sure, but you still need to be constantly aiming the handheld's antenna wherever the dongle is. Since it's a mm wave connection it can be broken by so much as the thickness of a leaf.

[@patatoothie]

Finally 1080p Switch Games on the Couch or Bed, as long as you can see the real Switch, as long as your Display has battery. Neat!

[@ლoლ0707]

3:06 Ahhh yes the classic circle in a square button..... Press it to receive your pizza

[@IsItLunchtimeYet-1]

Those are literally joycon alternative controllers. They used to sell them on Amazon 😂

[@seethruhead7119]

kind of interesting if you use an active hdmi cable and mount the transmitter on the ceiling or up high somewhere

[@gamers-generation]

"And you laughed at our G-Cloud!? WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?!" - Logitech

[@AURMEND]

What frequency does this use? 60 GHz? If it is I wonder if the RF transmitter is using Lattice Semiconductor. If they are it pretty simple to make a off the shelf prototype, but hard to make it look that good

[@marc-andreservant201]

The latency from fast encoders like Sunshine is less than a single frame with NvFBC which can be enabled on consumer GPUs with a Linux driver patch (then you use Steam with Proton). You now have to deliver this stream to your client with minimal ping and almost zero jitter. The only setup that worked for me was a gigabit Ethernet connection. I want to game with a real monitor, keyboard and mouse, so having an Ethernet cable isn't that bad. Wi-Fi has terrible jitter and will drop frames. This also applies to Nvidia GameStream.

[@hk6926]

I think steam deck at 350 and 279 refurbished has destroyed the market lol . Nothing is better than steam deck as simple as that . Love mine .

[@TVCHLORD]

for the price the deck is the best, but its not the best portable gaming pc

[@hk6926]

@@TVCHLORD there is no best portable gaming pc yet . But steam deck is better than everything

[@johndeerekid167]

I'm not sure what's worse. This product or the taking a dudegg sponsorship.

[@pixelatedzephyr6325]

and i thought there wouldnt be a worse deal than the ps portal…

[@ImpulseBuilds]

Just snagged one of these. Despite the limitations, this is the kind of device I've been looking for for years. I loved remoteplay via the psvita on ps4 and my main use case was as a wii u gamepad type device. I really want to be able to use this with my ps5 for a handheld ps5 experience as remoteplay with the ps5 drops random frames even with my kickass internet connection. The only caveat is the joycon connect as a ps4 controller to the ps5 so only ps4 versions are playable unless you use an official controller. Also I think there may be issues with the touchpad being mapped. But we'll see. If this thing provides a smooth experience without dropping frames, I'm happy. If it drops random frames like all other streaming solutions I've used, I'm immediately returning it.

[@ThatBoyAiintRight]

Playstation is already coming out with its own version of this device but better really.

[@ImpulseBuilds]

Except remote play for PlayStation is trash and it relies on the same tech so I'm not super hopeful. I've never managed to get remoteplay to work without framedrops even with an amazing local connection. The closest I got to a usable experience for me was chiaki, but that's third party. Again I'd love for Sony to prove me wrong but we'll see.

[@mPerfect_]

Isn't that a modified joycon for switch? I think it's something from Binbok or Nyxi. I'm not sure if you can detach them.

[@oafkad]

Weirdly I don't hate this. If my wife was using the TV I could still play my games and sit at the couch with her. Then if she gets done I could swap back over. Sure I could use the steamdeck for that but at least this allows for seamless playing without needing to turn on the PC. Guess I haven't heard the price yet...

[@oafkad]

oh that is pretty extreme for the line of sight. Holy cow.

[@Yo-ju1sr]

U dont hate this cause cloud(gaming or not) increase possibilities, i m pretty sure u have everything at home to do what u said about to be playin on couch near your wife^^ u could just use a good tablet or a cheap laptop with a controller to stream your games from ur main tower, its almost free^^. The diff between playin your game directly into your handled gaming mini pc like a steamdeck and doing cloud gaming on it will be on visual quality settings and the battery life. While u could stream your game at full ultra 1080p 60hz on your cold handled, running same game on the device will look more to a noisy hot 720p low settings, locked to 30hz, no shadows no reflections just to be able to play a bit more than a hour before battery goes.

[@MindstabThrull]

This looks to me like the sort of thing you'd hook up to a living room PC to use instead of a lapboard.

[@DigiplayW8]

I think it's very niche. I'd prefer to stick with using my phone and a backbone or gamevice and stream my games to my phone while I'm away from home

[@FlammableAirFreshener]

I can really see the use case scenario of this device as landfill fodder

[@eggcopter]

I would be more interested in a very flexible, lightweight and long video cable if I need LOS to run a portable display. (hope LTT labs can find one), plus 2.4ghz/BT LL controller is probably better suited given low latency claim. that and marketing material at 1:40 is offensive misinfo

[@zakiuddin3120]

I got this because some consoles/devices don’t have streaming options. Mainly from problems with trying to use software like moonlight, and finding limitations that I was able to remove with this device.

[@sameermohideen4913]

"We don't need the lab" Linus cries in the background