Shorty Headers vs Long Tubes: Sound Comparison

[@AliAli-tf4re]

Yeah definitely he sounds like engineering explained

[@granite345rt6]

He is

[@Concern_Citizen]

He simply sound uneducated! He said he at 3:30 he's considering putting some kind of resonator at the back. Resonators do NOT go at the "back", they must be close to the frequency source since they simply cancel out power-stroke frequency. Mufflers, alternatively, needs to be as far away from the noise source to be the most effective. It's why resonators are immediately behind the catalytic convertors and Mufflers are at the tail-end of the vehicle. I think folks should do a little research before making videos, as they may be inadvertently spreading misinformation.

[@TMPxFranchise2112x]

You forget to say “Hello and welcome!”

[@DonnySRT]

Haha

[@JamarD421]

Dude you sound just like Engineering Explained if his voice was deeper. You must get that alot.

[@DonnySRT]

yea I do 😂😂. Thank you for watching!

[@brentdominy4564]

I literally thought it was one of his videos at first 🤣Hello and welmcome....

[@Piffydaily]

😂😂😂no bullshyt

[@chriscockerham641]

This is a horribly unfair comparison. Shorties with catted exhaust vs long tubes with cat less exhaust. Of course the long tube setup will be significantly louder.

[@392swervv]

❗️

[@mikew6135]

Absolutely worthless comparison

[@MrPhillies20]

1:19 for shorty headers

[@Imagination_Station2224]

Yes! I'm so glad you are actually doing a side by side comparison! I just had some BBK shorty headers installed on my 12 Charger R/T. Wanted to go with long tubes, but just simply couldn't afford it

[@DonnySRT]

I LOVED my shorty headers. They were fantastic for low-end torque (even better than the long tubes I believe). How are you liking yours so far?

[@Imagination_Station2224]

@@DonnySRT I'm liking em quite a bit! It seemed to deepen the tone of my exhaust a bit and my butt dyno senses that it is slightly quicker although I haven't really been able to test it. It's been raining nonstop in Washington State for the last month +. I know I'll notice an even bigger difference once I throw a tune on it because currently I'm running a stock tune with shorty headers, full exhaust w/ stock cats for now, BBK 85mm throttle body and Legmaker Hammer Intake.

[@humanoid7765]

I've had my BBK shorty headers on for almost a year now and I like the exhaust tone with magnaflow cat back exhaust. I had to go back to the speed shop because I had an exhaust leak. One of the header bolts became loose. All tightened up and backflow pressure and sound is good now.

[@Imagination_Station2224]

@@humanoid7765 this is what my Charger sounded like before throwing the shorty headers on. Think it still needs to be louder! Haha kzbin.info/www/bejne/omqsXpRrjtGNesU

[@williamhogan2876]

Also banging out the steering Collum is where I’m at idk if I should go for long tubes or just shortys I’m stuck

[@Indigeaux797]

Congratulations on 1I! Great comparison video. I'm still waiting to install my 392 headers on my 5.7.

[@DonnySRT]

Thank you man! You’re gonna love the low end torque gains with those headers.

[@PawlDunken]

I did that to my 06 charger I put 6.1 srt8 headers on my 5.7 cats deleted resonator deleted 2 1/2 inch exhaust with flowmaster super 10s

[@GarcBomber]

Big difference in performance as well. 1979 still bangs!

[@DonnySRT]

You’re right about both of those things! One of my absolute favorite songs haha

[@seancombs1188]

THe long tubes sounds a lot "thumpier" than the shorties, looking to swap on my mustang and couldn't find a vid on the sound difference, so thank you!

[@SammTC]

Best intro I’ve seen in a while on here

[@eunit08]

I still enjoy my jba longtubes to this day. I do get the drone in cruising speeds. I plan to change my exhaust up this year hopefully

[@DonnySRT]

They do sound good. I just can’t stand when stuff vibrates in the cabin

[@eunit08]

@@DonnySRT the vibration is mainly in the back for me. The jba catback didnt come with resonators for some reason...

[@lil_shrimp6404]

@@eunit08 probably for more horses!!

[@eunit08]

@@lil_shrimp6404 probably so. Gotta free the horses

[@pharoahamunra]

the long tubes have a throatier deeper sound to.

[@DonnySRT]

Absolutely. In person they’re also significantly raspier sounding

[@Costar1982]

So what would you prefer tho I want a short tube header because it's a easier Install but I want a long tube header for better top end speed because on my Chrysler 300s hemi I feel like once I go passed a 100 the feels like it gets slower picking up speed ...

[@patpalmer1321]

Not on equal ground. Microphone has to be in the same position for each test. Not one up high and the other closer to the ground to pickup the ground echo. Any sound engineer will tell you that. But I will give you, side by side all things equal, there is a difference.

[@benbradley3872]

Finally buying my dream car today. Challenger RT (2015) 5.7L and the previous owner put long headers and did a muffler delete and I'm no car expert by any means but family members who are mechanics said there is a tune on it too. Super excited #moparlife

[@DonnySRT]

Congratulations! Those are awesome cars, and the 8 speed is a fantastic transmission. Be safe!

[@benbradley3872]

@@DonnySRT totally man you too! And thanks it's been a 7 year dream come true! I love your charger though she's gorgeous!

[@1badhoekaren903]

Dude if the shorties were catless then it would be a fair comparison 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@bryanunion5110]

catless shorties vs catless LT or catted shorties vs catted LTs woulda been a better comparison

[@Itsvalidright]

I just bought a 15’ 5.7 road and track , I’m trying to get a better exhaust note all while staying legal in California, any recommendations?

[@DonnySRT]

Yea that 15 has the same stock exhaust as my 16. I recommend cutting out the mid mufflers entirely and replacing the resonators at the back with a straight thru type muffler. This way you make it loud and avoid drone somewhat

[@JM-yx1lm]

Move to texas. No dont.

[@EverythingBoosted350]

So i just completed the srt brembo swap on my r/t and was planning for the next mods. I was thinking of switching the gearing to 3.93 gears and adding headers. My question is, should I get Long Tube headers to have better top end on the shorter gearing or will there not be much of a difference if I choose to go with shorties?

[@alexandrebernard6569]

How much was the total cost for the brembo swap? I was thinking of doing the same

[@MrPhillies20]

About 900 if you do the power stops yourself, 5000 If you do brembos yourself

[@Cubanogar]

delete the mds system with the tuner

[@harrishustle]

I got JBA shorty headers along with high flow cats and Borla S-Type exhaust on my GTO. Just need to get it tuned

[@JonnyAbs-0]

You have the stock cats with the shorties right? That won't do much. If you got catless pipes with the shorties, that would help a ton. I personally have JBA shorties paired with JBA high flow mids on my 04 GTO

[@DonnySRT]

I've heard the stock cats on these are pretty garbage so you're probably correct

[@JonnyAbs-0]

@@DonnySRT well they are pretty damn good at catalyzing, but that makes them more restrictive. There's a lady that has a vid where she upgraded her charger with high flow cats. Get the jba midpipes with cats!

[@JonnyAbs-0]

Oh nvm you have long tubes now. But yeah shorties with high flow mids is almost as good as LTs

[@cyberlocc]

@@DonnySRT I actually made the same comment just now. Ya I just tried a test tube on my stock headers, I have super 10s and no res's. Adding the Test tubes, it was easily twice as loud. That makes a very very large diffrence.

[@just_a5.7]

@@JonnyAbs-0 Where's the vid

[@Zayyyyyy762]

do long tube headers replace the catalytic converter

[@CornDogg117]

Out of curiosity i am currently getting my headers installed. Should be a couple days before there ready. I already have an after market full flowmaster exhaust system. I got longtube pacesetter headers for my 2001 5.4v8 triton f150. Will it sound like a low deep rumble or a loud raspy type. I hope its not loud and raspy. Cause that would suck. Right now my exhaust system is a nice deep rumble so im hopeing that the headrs will make it sound deeper.

[@brandonUwanawich954]

I got jba Shorty header borla s type and Res delete too it’s a little too loud but the pops goes crazy lol

[@TheGamerzKiKi]

I know you’re not gonna have to smog soon. But what about when it’s time? Want to put a stage 2 hrt cam, ported intake, throttle body, heads, & long tube headers. However, Calis smog laws make it wack.

[@DonnySRT]

As you know, it’s pretty difficult to get parts in California that are CARB legal. A lot of things you CAN find though, like headers and intake. You kinda just have to search a lot. I’m sure the porting will be fine, and you can likely find a throttle body

[@NotLilDebbie]

JBA long tube headers with a 2 and a half inch straight pipe is the way to go my Chrysler has never sounded so good!

[@Kuhladestkyicky]

I did JBA ceramic shorties, Borla S-Type and a tune....perfect. You want obnoxiously loud? On the cheap? 3” pipes behind the muffler. Too loud gets old quick.

[@DonnySRT]

Haha. I’m considering throwing some sort of resonator at the back. In its current state it’s already too loud

[@BlackPanther1SS]

Is JBA a good brand for headers? I plan on getting them. I have the Borla atak axel back with x pipe. I want to had shorty headers or should I go with Krooks brand. Which is best? I want that ceramic

[@ssleem3377]

I remember your older video of the tick you were hearing, did changing the headers make that noise go away? I have the 5.7 in my grand Cherokee and I hear a similar noise

[@DonnySRT]

Hi there. For a while I was using mopar oil filters. I went ahead and switched to a Bosche one and then replaced header gaskets. The sound is much quieter now but I can still hear slight valve train noise

[@19rt83]

it’s the lifters, getting hellcat lifters will make it go away

[@lil_shrimp6404]

Could be an exhaust leak too

[@ernestogarcia2522]

Where did you get your headers and did you install it yourself?

[@DonnySRT]

I bought them on Jegs and yes with a lift

[@ernestogarcia2522]

DonnyR/T thanks

[@tobroke2007]

just ordered a set of long tube JBA headers for my 2013 Dodge Challenger RT from summit racing but didn't see the off road mid pipes? where did you order your off road JBA mids from?

[@DonnySRT]

I got the midpipes on summit racing as well, you just kinda have to screw around on the website. It isn’t the easiest thing for some reason

[@moparbro]

Sup homie, im gunna be running long tubes on mine and throw that torque on my top end, supposedly the hemi's come with something similar to shorties ( Keyword supposedly) lmao

[@bonkant6584]

Only the 392s come with shorty headers style manifolds. The 5.7s come with dog-leg exhaust manifolds.

[@moparbro]

@@bonkant6584 tru thnx for the info💯

[@k.hamilton5848]

Yeah i got a 5.7 300 and its super restrictive lol, i got a catback, dynomax race bullet mufflers, stock exhaust manifold and cats. Next up is the high flow cats and either long or short headers. Price is high.

[@TheAwesonymous]

And you sound like the Engineering Explained guy

[@DonnySRT]

Haha I get that a lot! I can’t hear it though 😂

[@fire398017]

Sooo... are the long tubes at 2:35???

[@DonnySRT]

Yes

[@MiguelSanchez-dy3uk]

Hey man do you have high flow cats?

[@johnw6038]

I can't get over how you blurred out the tag in some clips and didn't in others

[@DonnySRT]

Haha - these clips are stitched together from multiple sources, I didn't do that purposefully

[@3silver4beast59]

I really hope you didn't use the JBA gaskets they are very known for leaking. I used OEM SRT gaskets for my kooks headers haven't had any issues

[@DonnySRT]

I ended up using aftermarket ones because I was getting leaks with the mopar ones as well.

[@chainlink3064]

Sub 995 here, early congrats on 1k man

[@DonnySRT]

Thank you man! I appreciate your support 💯

[@DCGEMINI202]

How do u pass emissions in cali without cats?

[@41fivin_sam72]

Did you go out of Cali for the LT headers? I’m trying to get a pair for my fox body but no sites want to send em’ here.

[@albertolopez4594]

Likewise!!!!

[@demented392rt5]

What did you guys find out? i need headers too but they don't ship to Cali

[@41fivin_sam72]

@@demented392rt5 We only have 2 options, go out to Navada OR find a muffler shop with connections so they can order it for you

[@albertolopez4594]

@@demented392rt5 So pretty much you have to know someone, my brother works in AutoZone and I think his commercial manager can have them shipped to his store , to be shipped to shops that work with AutoZone like muffler shop etc. that buy in bulk and something along those lines, the shop that’s buying have to sign a few Internet document saying that it won’t be put on vehicles that need to be tested for emissions and just a whole lot of malarkey , but pretty much if you know someone or now of a shop they’ll make the purchase for you and even do the installation but like I said you have to be on good terms because let’s say you get caught with them and they pry the information out of you if that’s even possible of where you got them installed and how you got them shipped to you you would be putting that location out of business so really you just have to know someone

[@demented392rt5]

@@albertolopez4594 Ok man thanks i know a few people at these shops around me that will probably do that. Im gonna give it a shot thanks man

[@cyberlocc]

Ya not at all a Fair comparsion :(. Assuming from the wording, you had your stock cats with the Shorties, you went Catless for the Long Tubes. Having just tried my car with stock heads, res delete and super 10s, removing just the cats makes the car insanely louder. This is not at all a fair comparison. Yes its louder for the LTs, because your pretty much straight piped. Not that LTs are not said to be louder, but being straight piped makes a larger diffrence than just swapping to LTs, I am assuming as removing cats makes a LARGE sound diffrence.

[@Bigmanjbmopar]

Don't like the sound of those mufflers not what a mopar is supposed to sound like

[@DonnySRT]

Did?

[@drewlambo5363]

Love the videos keep it up really the only channel that goes in dept about the r/t charger 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@DonnySRT]

Thanks bro, hopefully you’re finding the videos helpful!

[@michaelvicente5673]

You think a 2019 Charger rt diffuser will fit on my 2015 Charger rt ?

[@michaelvicente5673]

Well he has the 2019 bumper & well I have the same one you have

[@BallerShortsHD]

Michael Vicente forgot to switch accounts

[@przmkct9216]

With the long tubes on you have the same muffler & no resonator correct ?

[@DonnySRT]

Yes

[@cyberlocc]

Well, he had had Stock Cats with the Shortys, and Long Tubes w no cats. That makes a very large diffrence.

[@guzman7590]

@@cyberlocc that’s true but at the same time some headers come packaged with down pipe and all

[@5.0aries]

why does this sound like bladed angel and engineering explained!?!

[@DonnySRT]

I get the Engineering Explained one a lot but the Bladed Angel is new!

[@5.0aries]

DonnyR/T he has a good channel, he just talks about cars

[@Kissed1982]

if you're going to do sound comparisons, you need to get a field recorder to capture the whole frequency spectrum.

[@chriscurry9201]

KS T right. Cause it’s sounds the same to me on video

[@theproduct456]

How do you pass emissions?

[@computergeek1300]

Move to Florida lol

[@michaelvicente5673]

Ey bro did you install the black racing stripes on your rt ?

[@DonnySRT]

Yes I did it with my uncle who wraps cars

[@bryce1962]

Next thing you need is lowering springs or coil overs but the car looks amazing even without it

[@bryce1962]

Sounds great too

[@DonnySRT]

You're totally right. The thing sits a little too high. I've been deciding which route I want to go though because messing with steering/suspension gives me anxiety lol. I dont wanna throw off the steering geometry so I've gotta buy all the supporting mods

[@samuum6118]

Is this engineering explained's new channel

[@DonnySRT]

I get that a ton! I can’t hear it though haha

[@vanshan1318]

Hi there 👋 I’m seriously considering an R/T for my next car, but I want to obtain as much first hand information about the “ticking” issue as I can. What was the end result of that sound following your visit with the dealership technicians?

[@DonnySRT]

Hi, In this specific case, I believe it’s just an exhaust leak

[@pdawgproductions9610]

The hemi tick is due to lifter failure it happens on all mds engines after a while . I Recently fixed mine when putting in a new cam I had the new lifters installed as well.

[@shawncordeiro]

speakin of level playing field have small screen display with camera set up on inside filming that your reving both to same rpm with the main picture and sound FROM THE SAME SPOT on the outside

[@r.w.fields]

Wow! That 4 door ugly thing sounds great!

[@fafdus]

i got a 2010 police 5.7 charger a couple months ago and i am not that impressed and my family is mad at me because i wish i had a mustang lol but in all reality i really just want an ae86 lol

[@isaiahfresh4924]

How would shortys sound on a scat

[@DonnySRT]

Scat basically has shorties from the factory so I wouldn't bother

[@Chris00088]

Great 👍🏾 video I want long tube but my Challenger is lowered worried about it hitting or scrapping

[@DonnySRT]

Thank you! As long as your car isn't too low it should be ok... I'm on eibach pro springs and I dont scrape

[@przmkct9216]

Would this sound similar or just as good on a v6 ?

[@DonnySRT]

It depends on the car and engine but I would guess no. I don’t think you can put headers on the new Charger v6

[@przmkct9216]

It’s a 3.6 sxt

[@DonnySRT]

I don’t think you can do headers on those. It’s not easy to make them sound like v8s

[@przmkct9216]

Mmm okay :/ thanks just wait till I upgrade

[@DonnySRT]

Przmk cT the 3.6 is a great motor bro. Enjoy it!

[@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374]

Didn't catch if you mentioned if they are 1 7/8s, or 1 3/4" and who makes them. I'm in the process of getting new racing wheels and drag radials for my Challenger, but it will be her next mod after that and is an expensive sport/hobby lol. Tires are so important thought because if we're spinnin we're not winnin as we all know, and will be so nice to finally be able to look. Even with 295s lowered, they still spin and is out of control with traction control off. So I'm getting some good ole sticky Mickeys in a 305, and can't wait to get them on the beast. It's still hard for me to fathom that hellcats come with 275s, and is totally insane lol. Demonology uploaded a vid of a header coating called jet hot yesterday afternoon, and had his kooks long tubes coated with it. Is actually reduces temps by 45%, and it is amazing stuff. Is designed for the aerospace industry and used to insulate rocket booster parts etc to shield them from excessive heat. His personal Mopar service tech was really impressed with it, as we all are. After watching the vid, l googled and found a set that are pre-coated and is what I'm going to do when I'm ready.. They are surprisingly inexpensive considering the coating is around $350, and you have to pay for shipping both ways when you have them done. Although I wanted 1 7/8, but these are 1 3/4 and is probably why they are such a great deal at a little over $1100. I have the link if anyone is interested, but it's for the 6.1 & 6.4 only though. Although, I'm pretty sure that they also have them available for the 5.7 and pentastar..store.jet-hot.com/products/jh-000020

[@DonnySRT]

I believe they are 1 3/4 which is what my tuner recommended. Yea man I'm trying to get tires next but between suspension, brakes, and tires (which everyone is bugging me about lol) stuff goes to well over 2 grand.

[@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374]

@@DonnySRT Wow, so then your tuner even recommended them and wonder if it's because its the 5.7. Because most of the ones that I've looked at for my SRT8, have been 1 7/8s and also fit the 392. In my never-ending quest for more car goodies, I've noticed that alotta parts fit each other on various applications with the two. So far from what I've noticed when I've been looking, the exhaust is the same from the headers all the way to the back and come from the factory with the 2 7/8s" pipe on the SRTs. So they are already pretty fat considering exhaust systems are usually made out of around 2 1/2" on alotta V8s out there, but I still got rid of mine and went with 3in for even better flow as well as weight reduction anyway lol. Getting rid of those massive suitcase resonators and mufflers, was one of the first mods that we did and flos so much better now. A lot of guys have been straight piping and is an inexpensive way to go, but I wanted to replace the stock system altogether and flos so much better now

[@PawlDunken]

Yeah I can hear the longtubes sound meaner

[@DonnySRT]

They definitely growl some more! Thanks for watching!

[@PawlDunken]

@@DonnySRT you welcome sir

[@lamarvingoddson3162]

Shorty wins 🔥

[@durangoturrell4936]

How were the shorty compared to stock regarding sound?

[@DonnySRT]

A little deeper and less drone but not a huge difference

[@412hwc]

i cant take a car from cali's sound performance at face value! yall dudes aint allowed shit.

[@craigslue]

Put the cats back on it will be quieter.

[@judasgomez254]

What’s the song in the beginning of this vid

[@DonnySRT]

Night Lovell deira city centre

[@GoldSK96]

1000x way better afterwards

[@DonnySRT]

I agree!

[@DC-js6tq]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@iseemopar]

All you need is something like a carven X pipe

[@DonnySRT]

I'm too check to buy a whole exhaust 😂😂

[@johnhershey4010]

Take the cat off and it will sound good

[@stevensilvas1986]

Dude buys headers but not a pcm unlock ……..

[@DonnySRT]

@@stevensilvas1986 dude wants to hate when the car was tuned for both shorties and long tubes 🤣

[@trentalexander908]

Not a good example

[@Logan-ix8vh]

Sounds like a bunch of wasted cash

[@erasedfromgenepool.4845]

Could have dealt without the garbage music. In the beginning Spielberg!!

[@matzlindfors8987]

Why would you even want a v8 car go down in 4 cylinder mode kinda beats rhe purpose. You wanna hear the rumble cruising on idle or get your self a volvo

[@matzlindfors8987]

You call that rev. I rev more on my bicycle

[@DCGEMINI202]

How do u pass emissions in cali without cats?