Should a Christian Pray to Mary?

[@The_Original_Alex_Channel]

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. - John 14:6

[@thebiblestudyhelper9389]

Very true yet Christ himself prescribed the nature and involvement of the church . The Bible prescribes a church relationship more than a personal but none the less they are both biblical and fit together .

[@donaldcooley897]

@@thebiblestudyhelper9389 where d you get that from . If you don`t have a personal relation ship with Christ you are not part of his Church The Church is his body . Christ died for the sins of the world . but you have to personal repent and except Christ and his atonement for your sins The local Church does not give salvation or does it give you peace of mind , that is through faith in Christ . all saved believers are members of his body the Church . But we worship God in a local assembly or Church . it don`t need to be a big Church building , where two or three are gathered in my name I will be there. that what he is calling a local visible Church where we fellowship with other Believers in his name .

[@TriciaRP]

@@thebiblestudyhelper9389 Wrong....It is PERSONAL. YOU ALL WANT A DAMNED RELIGION CATHOLISM Church to do something.....

[@Slagando]

Revelation 5:8?

[@donaldcooley897]

@@Slagando Rev. 5 : 8 John is not talking about the saints or believers here on earth . This is during the tribulation , the Church with saved believers or saints who are the Church will be in Heaven with Christ .

[@xd.3997]

I remember when I was younger I used to pray to ‘mary’ every night, at one point I started getting a very strange feeling about doing this and i was a bit hesitant every time I did and eventually i started getting an image in my mind of the mary from the Bible but with red eyes and it scared me, at first I apologised to God because I thought I was doing it myself and that it offended God but it wouldn’t stop happening, i started praying for it to go away and then one night I saw the same image but this time as if she was jumping out at me, it really scared me but I still thought it was just an intrusive thought and brushed it off, every time i did it i was still scared it would happen again because i didn’t want to offend God and I was still hesitant about praying to ‘mary’ because I wasn’t sure if it was right until around a year later when I read a verse in the Bible in revelation when the angel of God repeats that we should worship no one but God and by God’s Grace I reflected on myself and thought about if I worshiped anything and then later I went to pray and was about to pray to mary but had a sudden awful feeling and remembered that verse, I thought to myself that praying to mary wasn’t me worshiping but it felt wrong every time I did it, so i decided to stop and I asked God to show me if it was right, I started praying straight to God and praying became a much more peaceful and enjoyable experience because now I spend time in God’s presence just like the Bible teaches, it’s crazy to think how blinded and hard-hearted I was

[@johnnsisong]

This is an amazing testimony.

[@quintanmosoro1773]

❤❤❤ Yahshua is the way, the truth, and the life!!!! 🎉

[@aqua_foxfx4563]

That's because you prayed to her as God, and why did you worshiped her????

[@jojosephoho]

Understanding your experience is crucial, and it's important to approach such personal encounters with sensitivity and respect. As a Catholic, the tradition of praying to Mary and the saints can sometimes be misunderstood, not only by those outside the faith but occasionally by members of the faith themselves. Let me address your concerns from a Catholic perspective, which emphasizes a deep reverence for both scripture and tradition. Firstly, it's vital to clarify that Catholics do not worship Mary or the saints. Worship is due to God alone. When Catholics pray to Mary or the saints, they are asking these holy figures to intercede on their behalf to God. This practice is rooted in the Communion of Saints, a belief that the Church is not just the body of believers on Earth but also includes those in heaven and purgatory. The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains that the saints' intercessory role brings us closer to Christ, who is the sole mediator between God and humanity (CCC 956). Your experiences, particularly the visions and feelings of fear, are deeply personal. In Catholic understanding, prayer and devotion should lead us closer to God's peace and love, not away from it. If a particular form of devotion causes distress or fear, it's prudent to seek guidance. This might involve discussing your experiences with a knowledgeable and compassionate priest or spiritual advisor who can offer counsel tailored to your spiritual needs. Regarding the scripture in Revelation that cautions against worshipping anyone but God, this is in full alignment with Catholic teaching. The veneration (honor) given to Mary and the saints never equates to the worship (adoration) due to God alone. The distinction between latria (worship given to God) and dulia (veneration given to saints), with hyperdulia (a higher form of veneration) given to Mary due to her unique role as the Mother of God, is crucial in Catholic theology. Your journey towards a peaceful and enjoyable prayer life, focused on God's presence, is commendable. The Catholic Church encourages a personal relationship with God through prayer, which can take many forms, including but not limited to intercessory prayers through the saints. If praying directly to God has brought you peace, this is a beautiful and authentic expression of your faith. The Catholic faith encompasses a rich diversity of devotional practices, allowing individuals to find the paths that best draw them into closer communion with God. In conclusion, your spiritual journey and the challenges you've faced are a testament to your desire to live a faith that feels authentic and true to God's call. As Catholics, we are encouraged to seek God with a sincere heart, informed by the teachings of the Church, the scriptures, and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. May your journey continue to be one of deepening love and understanding of God's presence in your life.

[@loriloy1564]

I know that our Lord Jesus Christ is real. I was on drugs for 15 to 20 years. I spent most of my 20’s in the hospital, jails or searching to get get high on anything. I remember times that I would be walking and someone or something (which now I know is God )would tell me to go this way or turn around. He saved me. To make a long story short. I was withdrawing off alcohol and a fierce deep voice said” I got the keys to Hell” I have fear for the lord but I have faith in him. I have now been 3 years clean. I would love to tell my life story to help someone.

[@dramalover2032]

Hi, I am glad you found Christ. I pray that you share your story with othet believers so that they may realize how wonderful Jesus Christ is.

[@kittykitkat4968]

Glad that you allowed Jesus, our loving Saviour Wishing you a fabulous life

[@edybrown9402]

@loriloy1564 Hi🙋🏽‍♂️ It's been two years you shared this testimony, I hope you're still in the Faith, I hope you're still standing? Remember you have to keep fighting, building yourself up in your most holy faith till the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. Don't forget GALATIANS 2:20; ROMANS 12:1-2; COLOSSIANS 3:1-8; JUDE 20 & 21.

[@williamrama7026]

I believed just one holy person. That is Jesus. He is God that became a human. So, i just believed in Him and Pray to Him. My goal is not to become good christian but become Jesus Discipline. God bless.

[@nelsonfernandes5729]

Sure, that is the goal and it is right, but on your faith walk, there are people who help you attain that goal. CAtholics have a broader vision of eternity. there are those on earth who help us and there are those who have earned their crown in heaven who also help those on earth in their faith journey by their merits gained by their total surrender to Jesus in their earthly life. As Peter says [1 Peter 5:1] As a fellow elder, a witness of Christ's sufferings, and a partaker of the glory to be revealed, I appeal to the elders among you... According to this scripture we are all partakers of God's glory. And so ity all means that God has alowed those who have won the victory to help those still struggling on earth with graces needed to win the prize of eternal life.

[@donaldcooley897]

@@nelsonfernandes5729 You need to study the scriptures , Peter is not talking about the dead we who are saved are partakers of the Glory of God ,Romans 8 : 17 - 18 when we are saved we become heirs of God joint heirs with Christ if we suffer with him we may also may be Glorified together The suffering at this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us He is talking about the Glory that is to Come it is nothing that those that have gone to be with the Lord can do to help with God Grace for sinners God don`t need any help with Grace or love to Give eternal Life we here on earth can pray for our love one who are not saved but we can`t help God with his redeeming power

[@nelsonfernandes5729]

@@donaldcooley897 Luke 20:38 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to Him all are alive." God used your parents co-creators to give you birth. Same way God uses human instruments to perform His marvellous works. John 14:12 ► Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. [Unfortunately Protestants think they know everything, but they need the Teaching Magisterium of the Church and not interpret scripture in a thousand different ways an splinter God's church.]

[@donaldcooley897]

@@nelsonfernandes5729 No one said God is the God of the Dead . where did you get that from ? You are like most Catholics , you are Biblical illiterate . To God the only ones that are alive are the ones that God has quicken by the spirit through faith in Christ Eph . 2 : 4 _ 5 if you have not been saved you are dead to God if you are saved and die you your body is dead but your spirit lives in heaven . Spirits have not power here on earth or in heaven they are all one in Christ . What Christ says in John 14 : 12 is he is talking about the Holy spirit which God will send when he is called back to the father . You need to read the rest of Chapter 14 : The spirit will teach you all thing that Chris is saying . John 14 : 26 ; we saved believers don`t think that we know every thing we only know what the spirit reveals through the scriptures . and the scriptures are truth. We don`t kneed the teachings of the apostate Catholic Church and you are proof of that with you ignorant Comments ! What may i ask what is God`s Church ? You don`t know so I will tell you it is the Body of Christ made up of saved believers , who have been Baptized in to the One Body his Church by the One Spirit 1 Cor. 12 :12 - 13 and he is the Head Eph. 1 : 22 - 23 - and Eph 5 : 27 ; There is only one way to interpret the scriptures that is by the Holy spirit in you if you are saved and your spirit will bear witness with the word that is is the spiritual Truth . 1 Cor 2 : 10 - 13 . Are you saved ?

[@easysewing4780]

one afternoon, it comes my thought why do people including mary to their prayer. in that same night I dreamed that there were two processions on a mountain uphill to God and mary but there are lots of people processioning to mary but the backround and the color u can see was black and it's lifeless and scary. And suddenly I went to the procession to God but no one in there Only God. floating in the mountain God face lightining. and u will feel in Peace. and perfect Joy and God's Almighty his long white dress in there's an understanding like humbleness and purity and you could feel very peaceful.

[@debbieforhim7800]

What an excellent program! I am so glad I found you! You answers are so right on and true to God's word to us. Keep up the good work; we are so in need of it today in this country.

[@Radtrad_strada]

You Protestant heretics are the reason why we Catholics have the 5 first saturdays devotion as our Lord asked Sister Lucia to observe. That devotion is made for you to save your soul from eternal damnation. You do not disrespect the Mother of Our Lord Jesus and get away with it. God Bless you and im praying for your conversions.

[@debbieforhim7800]

@@Radtrad_strada What do you think about the things your pope says? I think he is trying out for the job of False Prophet. Also, you MOST DEFINITELY do not sound like the Holy Spirit is within you because your text was so nasty. Not very full of love. Also, God's word clearly says that we are NOT to idol worship anything or anyone, including Mary. Catholics are therefore violating God's word by worshipping and praying to Mary. We are NOT to do that, no intercessors are necessary - we pray ONLY to Jesus Christ, our Heavenly Father, and the Holy Spirit.

[@GeroG3N]

Except is not. He is "responding" to things that Catholics don't believe. Basically a liar

[@silveriorebelo8045]

which answers have you received here except for anti-catholic bigotry??

[@silveriorebelo8045]

@@debbieforhim7800 have you never heard of the commandment that says that you must not defame your neighbor?? you think you will go through God's judgment while keeping on belying the catholic faith??

[@elroietegete9732]

Romans 8:34, KJV: "Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us."

[@cosmickitty5693]

But Protestantism comes from Luther

[@kale6264]

Thank you so much for this

[@user-ie7jn8mc6c]

That’s why it says in His word the Holy Spirit is our ADVOCATE. Our comforter. Our reminder. No one else is!

[@sinfulyetsaved]

So stop asking your family and friends to pray for you. Does that make sense? Those who have lived and died in Christ are with Christ. To be absent from the body is to be present with Christ so then those that passed on are not dead but alive In Christ who better to ask of those that are alive in Christ to pray for us.

[@barbwellman6686]

In an example of Sacred Apostolic Tradition 1John5 writes: " I write this to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 And this is the confidence which we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His Will He hears us. 15 And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have obtained the requests made of Him. 16 If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal.

[@barbwellman6686]

The entire two verses of 1 Tim 1: "1First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be offered for everyone- for kings and all those in authority-so that we may lead tranquil and quiet lives in all godliness and dignity. This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, Who wants everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave Himself as a ransom for all-the testimony that was given at just the right time."

[@jndvs95]

​@@sinfulyetsavedthere is no verse to suggest they interact with us when they are with Christ in heaven. The only story we hear about any interaction with the afterlife is when a witch summons Samuel and it did not go well for Saul. Jesus said he was the mediator between God and us. Luke tells us also: "As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” Luke 11:27‭-‬28 ESV Any way you look at God, the word is Jesus and we are told to come to him, not Mary. Mary is special and we can thank her in heaven, but she should not be the receiver of our prayers.

[@migueljaime7079]

There are more points on why not to pray or have Mary pray for us. So I'm leaning towards Jesus Christ as my one and only to the father!

[@travislariscy4466]

No there isn’t

[@travislariscy4466]

Pray to Jesus, and ask Mary to pray for you to Jesus. We must address Our Lord as well as ask others to pray for us

[@donaldcooley897]

@@travislariscy4466 You can`t pray to mary she is not Omnipresent she can`t here you

[@hmanhiryakos3296]

@@donaldcooley897 Really she can't hear you. Mary and Saints here every thing because they are in heaven.

[@jesusneversinned5985]

PART 1 In my heart, I just can't believe that Jesus, The Father in Heaven, would want Mary, to be just unincluded. Keep in mind, in the Gospel of St.Thomas, while he's teaching his disciples say "your Mother and your Brothers are here" , Jesus says, that is not my Mother and Brothers, he then turns to his disciples and says "THESE ARE MY MOTHER and MY BROTHERS!" , the gospel also mentions his REAL mother gave him life, and mentions something else about his false Mother. It is also said the one who gave physical birth to him as well as his brothers said he was nuts and needed to give up preaching because he was losing too much weight (from fasting), they actually treated him like he wasn't anyone who was actually worth listening to. But yet his DISCIPLE MARY, IS HIS MOST BELOVED. SAID TO UNDERSTAND MORW THEN ALL THE OTHER DISCIPLES. PETER EVEN INSINUATED SHE WAS LIEING ABOUT HOW JESUS SPOKE TO HER IN PRIVATE. THE MEN DISCIPLES WERE JELOUS OF HER AND DIDNT LIKE HER BUT YET SHE WAS ALWAYS THERE FOR THEM SUPPORTING THEM TELLING THEM NOT TO FEAR ESPECIALLY AFTER JESUS WAS GONE. NOT TO MENTION, THE DISCIPLE MARY WAS SAID TO BE ONE THAT JESUS (YESHUA) KISSED OFTEN ON THE MOUTH. LETS GET EVEN MORE SERIOUS, AND ILL INCLUDE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE SEED OF A WOMAN AND THE BIRTHING OF JESUS PHYSICALLY GEN. 3:15 "AND I WILL PUT ENMITY BETWEEN YOU AND THE WOMAN, AND BETWEEN YOUR SEED AND HER SEED, HE SHALL BRUISE YOUR HEAD, AND YOU SHALL BRUISE HIS HEEL" ENMITY MEANS THE STATE OR FEELING OF BEING ACTIVELY OPPOSED OR BEING HOSTILE TO SOMEONE OR SOMETHING. ITS SAID THIS PROPHECY WAS FULLFILLED IN GAL. 4:4 "BUT WHEN THE FULLNESS OF THE TIME HAD COME, GOD SENT FORTH HIS SON, BORN OF A WOMAN, BORN UNDER THE LAW" I believe this 2nd prophecy was completely misinterpreted and misunderstood especially considering the fact that the 1st one is said that enmity will be put between yes you are and the woman he is born from physically considering that tell everybody on the planet interpreted that and I think it's fair to say that's what it meant. But yet everyone ignores that it says this and doesn't acknowledge what the gospel of Saint Thomas says nor is the gospel of Saint Thomas anywhere in The Bible because it was taken out for some odd reason, And what baffles me the most is the fact that this was called The Secret teachings of Yeshua, which is Jesus, And the disciple Thomas was called twin for a nickname. He was known for being extremely hardened sceptic and said he would not believe Jesus came back to life unless he could see him and see the holes in his wounds in put his fingers through them, Foot when he saw Jesus he was terrified and became one of the most strongest believers after that moment. I believe the reason Jesus gave him the nickname twin was because he had a justifiable reasoning for feeling the way he did and he verbally made it known why he felt that way and really it was completely reasonable and logical and had no ignorance within it except for him saying he wanted to put his finger through the holes of the wounds. The 2nd prophecy saying that when the fullness of time had come God-sent forth his son born of a woman born under the law, I do believe this might have been a indication of something to happen spiritually sometime Around the end of days during revelation. Keep in mind there is supposed to be a woman who gives birth to a child that escaped the dragon, And is caught up with God to heaven, And is crowned with 12 stars . To me that sounds like the Virgin Mary. And the woman who is depicted as the whore of Babylon, Yes I understand it is a depiction of something that is not good but at the same time I have a hard time believing God would actually call any female a whore, Especially when he clearly used the word harlot and prostitute numerous times but all of a sudden is using the word whore and the words whoredom. It is a very filthy word and a very derogative labelling to give someone. Mind you let it be extremely clear to you that The Bible has been edited 20,000 times, That is exactly why yes you will made it written in The Bible that it was written to be corrected, Because those of good moral value and logical sense towards what's fair for all human beings and not just a select group or a select religion, Will get the gist of this and will understand. If our father in heaven is said to be of the most warm and incompassing Unconditional love, How can The Bible mention how he is apparently a jealous God or that he hates evil or hates any kind of person whatsoever as well as Jesus hating any kind of person. Who are we to city are actually say that it isn't possible for someone to have edited that into The Bible and that's completely true, But if someone is to believe that Jesus is too good for that then apparently that's ignorant and naive, Because personally to me that sounds like hypocrisy in its filthiest form, Especially when it comes to trying to insinuate that every single thing in The Bible is true especially when it's had a double take looking at it, And something that is contradicted towards Jesus or God is questioned because of the simple fact that yeshua and the father in heaven are said to be the highest and the holiest of all existence. Beings. Spot the same people who get upset and get hostile and hold your reputation for ransom if you even insinuate whatsoever that something in The Bible that was said about God was disrespectful to him, They get entirely upset and insinuate that you are so unworthy that it wouldn't be possible for you to actually be smart enough to figure that out before they did, As if this is some kind of competition in some kind of game at all, As if life is a game in general. Do you see all this hypocrisy? It's loud and clear how jealous Peter and some of the disciples were of Mary along time ago. If you take a look at the libra Constellation, it is same shape as a major, and there is a scorpio right at the front of this major looking shape facing it. Schnell revelations mentioned a woman who is about to give birth to a child and the dragon waits at her feet waiting to devour this child but the child eventually escapes and is caught up to heaven. The Feet at the bottom of the shape of Virgo meet with libra not directly but very closely. The birth of Jesus being December 25th is said to have been something that is not of 100% accurate data. It wasn't until centuries after he existed that this was chosen to be the one day he was born. Now I am not sitting here questioning anything I am simply reiterating the things I've researched. Now when it comes to cosmic events in the 9 month. It takes for a woman to develop a child I understand that and I understand how certain cosmic events have been very similar to this. But if you look 9 months after December 25th, It is September 25th. Does The Bible not say that when you're looking onto the throne of God that sapphire is at the summit? Sapphire is the birthstone of libras I think. My birthday is September 28th in sapphire is my birthstone. But also in September 16th the movement of the Virgo moon comes into the limelight. And lots of libras have attributes of virgos as well mixed into one. And the scales being one of the zodiac symbols is the only symbol that is not living. Now I do not believe in zodiac symbols nor do I believe in any of the descriptions of what each zodiac symbol is like as a person, But I know that I used to and I know plenty about it because you don't have to completely refuse to research something just because you don't believe in it. Because you never know

[@VintageEngineRepairs]

Beautifully spoken, thank you for the full explanation. Subbed!

[@johntaylor4707]

Real good guidance , God Bless

[@navigatinglifewithgod]

Beautiful response. Thank you. 🙏

[@eriktaviusb7645]

I am so thankful that these two men explained this with clarity with focus and with truth. I came upon this page after playing a segment in a video game, the video game is called "Kingdom Come Deliverance". It is a good game a very good game it is funny it is suspenseful it is the kind of game that you can immerse yourself into and spend time outside of your normal regular life. It's one of the reasons why some of us play video games so we can get away from the regular mundaneness of our lives. In the game you play as a young man named Henry who is brought up a simple blacksmith's son. As the game goes on he becomes a hero figure he rights wrongs and he does some things that are wrong in turn but he does them for the right reasons or in his eyesight or mindset it's for the right reasons. There comes a time in the game where he meets with someone who is a person who is having what she says are visions, not to tell the whole story but at one point she says that he has to repent for the wrong things that he's done. Now in theforgiveness

[@ukgaragegold]

I was baptised a Catholic. Last year , I went to Rome. That Egyptian statue right in the middle Of the city with hieroglyphics all over it and the eye of Horus , made me realise what Catholicism really stands for. I’m a Christian now.

[@ukgaragegold]

Oh yeh forget to mention , I turned Christian at the age of 33. I know right !

[@szymonlewandowski8603]

@@ukgaragegold you are a Moron now you are heretic

[@ukgaragegold]

Szymon Lewandowski JESUS CHRIST is LORD of LORDS & KING of KINGS!!! The only mediator between man and God. The bible clearly says do not worship idols , angels or mary! Look It up yourself. JESUS CHRIST is KING!!!

[@urbanego621]

I was just like you.I don't belong to any church now. I am free.Believe only bible and Jesus .I have read through the bible and wrote it down myself.See for yourself.I will defend good in everything . "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" -John 8:32 drive.google.com/file/d/1YjNSKqaBGcQsXe8gyhYcXeQRGPZjnFJ_/view?usp=sharing

[@orthodoxouwatje4632]

@@ukgaragegold yup, we Orthodox don't do that btw, we don't worship nor the Saint or Theotokos (Mary). We honor them

[@altheaartieda4205]

Thank you Lord. Thank you so much. God bless 😇♥️

[@ivanniyeha4229]

Who is Mary to you?

[@vinicioreyes4792]

Jesus told us to pray to the Father in his name so therefore it is unbiblical to pray to Mary.

[@moonstar6545]

why do you think so

[@vishwajit9290]

@@moonstar6545 why do you pray to Mary?

[@Pro1938ftc3ch]

@@moonstar6545 NOO GRAVEN IMAGE/MARY

[@nelsonfernandes5729]

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[@easysewing4780]

one afternoon, it comes my thought why do people including mary to their prayer. in that same night I dreamed that there were two processions on a mountain uphill to God and mary but there are lots of people processioning to mary but the backround and the color u can see was black and it's lifeless and scary. And suddenly I went to the procession to God but no one in there Only God. floating in the mountain God face lightining. and u will feel in Peace. and perfect Joy and God's Almighty his long white dress in there's an understanding like humbleness and purity and you could feel very peaceful.

[@jamesmayle4712]

Praying to anyone other than God/Jesus is idolatry. Full stop.

[@Deanna974]

Hmm. I must say I am impressed...impressed that they didn't give a wishy washy answer, and went straight to Scripture. I have heard Christians try to make excuses for this...but he goes through the fact that we are sinners and that Mary was a sinner who needed Jesus as her Savior, too. Also, he did away with praying to saints as well. He stuck to Scripture. Well done.

[@crup3121]

Deanna dear, Mary was the only human spared from original sin because she had to carry the saviour. A saviour born and stained by sin can not save the world

[@donaldcooley897]

One woman , Where does it say mary was with out sin in the scriptures ? She was born of earthly parents no where in the Bible does it say she was spared from the original sin . She was a woman who was married to Joseph and a virgin when she conceived because Joseph hadn`t had intercourse with her yet . she was vessel used by God to bring forth his son she had many more son and daughters .

[@donaldcooley897]

Pat does it say in the scriptures that she was sinless ? No She was a woman born of earthly parents she was conceived by the holy spirit She was married and still a virgin because Joseph hadn`t known her till she brought forth her first born son meaning he was the first of many To say other wise is against the scriptures . and I would like to ask you like I ask others why is it so important that she didn`t have other Children ?

[@donaldcooley897]

Pat there can be no church logic discerning God when it comes from the apostate RCC with its perversion and false doctrine and rituals and sacraments which are un scriptural

[@donaldcooley897]

Pat , We are not under the Jewish laws and traditions I understand history and I understand the bible . I know what the bible says That Joseph didn`t have sex with her till after she had her first Child that is plain enough . If you are talking about Jewish Tradition , the woman was not to withhold her self from her husband .No one tells me why it is so important that mary didn`t have any more children it must be some false belief of the RCC that fits there narrative it is not in the scriptures . Like I said I understand biblical history and I would never become a member of a church that will become an apostate universal church that will be used by the devil Rev. 17

[@jeandavidnau8314]

Very nice job, guys...I've been looking for a well done response to the Catholic position. Would have liked a touch more on "traditions of man" but great.

[@myronsevera345]

I left the Roman Catholic Church. As a child, we had envelopes for the collections. And I remember envelopes that were for money for the " poor souls in purgatory. And, now I know that place doesn't exist. We were taught that Mary was born without original sin. Scriptures say otherwise. We were taught that she was assumed body and soul into Heaven...no evidence of that. We were taught she is the EVER virgin...scripture says otherwise. So because a pope says it to be true, doesn't make it true. Then you have all of these apparitions. But only Catholics experience them. Not good Protestant Christians. I wont bash them but, their doctrine to me, is highly questionable.

[@elkanjulian1037]

There are thousands of Protestant denominations. Not all are bad

[@galileovenica6449]

There is evidence for all that on the Bible, I recommend you see videos from Scott Hahn to understand it better

[@nelsonfernandes5729]

Just ponder over this: God is holy and nothing unholy will enter heaven. So God who is holy cannot be conceived in a womb that is unholy or not immaculate and pure. And so this is proof that Mary is Immaculate. How can a body that held the Son of the Living God be left to corruption and not be assumed body and soul in heaven? Remove your Protestant specs and all the Catholic doctrines will become clear to you.

[@jojosephoho]

Thank you for sharing your experiences and concerns. It's clear that you've put a lot of thought into your spiritual journey, and I respect the depth of your reflection. Engaging with your points as a Catholic, I hope to offer some perspectives that might illuminate why the Church teaches what it does and how these teachings connect with Scripture and Tradition. Firstly, regarding the concept of Purgatory, the Church's teaching is not without scriptural basis. Purgatory is understood as a state of purification for those who die in God's grace but still need purification to enter into the fullness of God's presence. This concept is rooted in the understanding of God's holiness and the necessity of being pure to be in His presence. Scriptures such as 1 Corinthians 3:15, which speaks of being saved, but "as through fire" in the context of judgment, and 2 Maccabees 12:45-46, which talks about praying for the dead that they might be freed from sin, provide a scriptural foundation for this belief. While Purgatory is not explicitly named in Scripture, the Church sees these and other passages as indicative of a process of purification after death. Regarding Mary's Immaculate Conception (her being born without original sin), this teaching is based on a theological understanding of Mary's role in the salvation history as the Mother of God. The angel Gabriel's greeting to Mary as "full of grace" (Luke 1:28) is seen as indicative of her special sanctity from the moment of her conception. This belief is not a negation of Scripture but an interpretation that sees Mary's unique role in salvation history as necessitating a special grace from God. The Assumption of Mary-her being taken body and soul into Heaven-is not directly stated in Scripture, but it is a belief that has been part of Christian Tradition since the early centuries of the Church. It reflects the belief in the resurrection of the body and is seen as a sign of the hope of our own resurrection. The Church teaches that Mary, because of her unique role and her sinlessness, was assumed into heaven as the first fruits of the resurrection promised to all Christians. As for Mary's perpetual virginity, the Church's interpretation of Scripture passages that mention Jesus' "brothers and sisters" is that these terms can also mean close relatives or kin, not necessarily biological siblings, which is consistent with the linguistic and cultural context of the time. The experiences of apparitions and how they are understood within the Catholic faith are indeed more commonly reported among Catholics, which might reflect the particular ways that the Catholic tradition understands and interacts with the communion of saints and the spiritual realm. The Church is cautious in its recognition of apparitions and investigates them thoroughly before declaring them worthy of belief. These experiences are not considered essential to the faith but can enrich the spiritual lives of believers. Your point about questioning doctrine based on papal authority reflects a broader question of how authority is understood within the Church. The Catholic Church views the Pope as a successor to Saint Peter, entrusted with a pastoral role to guide and sustain the faith of the Church in unity with the bishops. This understanding is rooted in Scripture, such as Matthew 16:18-19, where Jesus gives Peter the "keys of the kingdom of heaven." In conclusion, I understand your concerns and the reasons for your departure from the Church. It's clear that these are not issues taken lightly, and the journey of faith is deeply personal and filled with questions. From a Catholic perspective, the teachings on Purgatory, Mary, and the authority of the Church are seen as deeply intertwined with the Scripture, Tradition, and the living faith of the community. These beliefs are held not to obscure the simplicity of faith in Christ but to enrich our understanding of God's love, mercy, and the mystery of salvation. I respect your journey and appreciate the opportunity to share these perspectives.

[@loriloy1564]

The Bible also says that Mary was a normal person like me and you she also needed God as well? Am I correct oe did I hear wrong?

[@kelssssk]

yeahh

[@hmanhiryakos3296]

She is human like us, and she was chosen to be the Mother of God. I am right right. The word was with God and it was God. Lord's blood is Mary's blood.

[@nelsonfernandes5729]

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[@easysewing4780]

one afternoon, it comes my thought why do people including mary to their prayer. in that same night I dreamed that there were two processions on a mountain uphill to God and mary but there are lots of people processioning to mary but the backround and the color u can see was black and it's lifeless and scary. And suddenly I went to the procession to God but no one in there Only God. floating in the mountain God face lightining. and u will feel in Peace. and perfect Joy and God's Almighty his long white dress in there's an understanding like humbleness and purity and you could feel very peaceful.

[@thebiblestudyhelper9389]

No you are not like Mary . Mary is in the bloodline of David and Jesus . This has a great deal of biblical meaning.

[@steffiborges9392]

Really awesome explanation let people accept the truth that Jesus is the only way the truth and life no one comes to the father except through him.

[@cynthiax56]

wrong. ➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE AND PROOF THAT THEY ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: ... The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ... ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: ● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: Rev 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb. ➨ JOHN 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. ➨The KING Honours his mother's request: ● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.” (Jesus is the Greatest King and he also honours his mother's requests) ➨SAINTS ARE ALIVE IN CHRIST AND SHARE IN HIS RESSURRECTION: ● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" ● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. ● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. ● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. ● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. ● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. ● LUKE 9:30-31 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. (Moses & Elijah were alive, and were yalking with Jesus) ● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) ● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transformation of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead. ➨HONOURING MARY: LUKE 1:48: All generations will call Mary Blessed. We Catholics are the ones who call her the BLESSED Virgin Mary and treat her accordingly. ➨NOWHERE does the bible permit protestants (or anyone else) to Scrutinize & monitor the prayers of other people, nor to judge their sincerity or their salvation. 4

[@nelsonfernandes5729]

[Job 42: 8-10] Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and offer up a burnt offering for yourselves. And my servant Job shall pray for you, for I will accept his prayer not to deal with you according to your folly. For you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has.” So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went and did what the Lord had told them, and the Lord accepted Job's prayer. (Unbiblical to ask Mary to pray for us?)

[@cynthiax56]

@@nelsonfernandes5729 AGAIN: NOWHERE Does the bible Forbid anyone to spea to Mary. That is NOT in the bible. PERIOD. At the wedding at Cana, It was MARY who asked Jesus to help the wedding poarty and he did so (JOHN 1) There was conversation going on between the people and Mary./ In the Old testament, King Solomon had between 700-1000 wives yet HIS MOTHER sat on his right as QUEEN, and she interceded between the prople and the King. The Jews valued a mother's wisdom and intercession. JESUS is a far GREATER King than Solomon and his mother is ALSO Queen and has the same position, only greater. Funny how you "bible believing christians" will argue with the bible and make up things that are not in the bible. :)

[@donaldcooley897]

@@cynthiax56 The scriptures say there is one mediator between man God That is Christ . Rev 5 : 8 ; Is during the tribulation . There are no saints here on earth , all saved believers who are saints and also the Church have been call out to meet Christ in the air . and are in heaven . what does Job have to do with mary . You are like most Catholics , Biblical Ignorant Mary didn`t ask Christ to do anything at the wedding she said 4 words (they have no wine ) how do you illiterates fabricate intercession out of that ? I told you there were no intercession of the saints because all saints have left Earth . they are in heaven around the throne, and I am not talking about the so called catholic saints every one that is saved is a saint living or dead . John 14 : 12 Christ was talking about the Comforter the holy spirit that God will indwelled each saved believer with. Mary is not a Queen in heaven it is not scriptural that is another fabricated lie of the ignorant catholic . Christ come into the world to do the will of the father not the will of the mother it is not scriptural . when Christ was resurrected he took the believers in one section of Hell call Abraham`s bosom. with him when The second coming of Christ Rev. 19 he come back with all of us saints that were called up in the rapture there is nothing you have said talks about intercession . you like all catholics are ignorant of the scriptures . the traditions and marian doctrines , mariology crap is not found in the scriptures , they are lies and fabricated deception of the devil ,which is in control of the catholic Church . and there pagan practices . we as saved believers can scrutinize anything spiritual using the scriptures and praying to any one but Christ is not scriptural and is a sin because Christ is the only mediator . not mary not the saints

[@Radtrad_strada]

You Protestant heretics are the reason why we Catholics have the 5 first saturdays devotion as our Lord asked Sister Lucia to observe. That devotion is made for you to save your soul from eternal damnation. You do not disrespect the Mother of Our Lord Jesus and get away with it. God Bless you and im praying for your conversions.

[@TorqueBow]

One thing I don't really get in this is that if Jesus is without sin, yet we are burdened with the sins of our relatives before us, does that mean Mary was sinless also? idek I am only a year into my conversion, so i dont know everything, but that is a question and inqury that has really bothered me

[@ofonimebassey8804]

Jeremiah 31:29‭-‬30 NIV “In those days people will no longer say, ‘The parents have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge.’ Instead, everyone will die for their own sin; whoever eats sour grapes, their own teeth will be set on edge. Ezekiel 33:18‭-‬20 NIV If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and does evil, they will die for it. And if a wicked person turns away from their wickedness and does what is just and right, they will live by doing so. Yet you Israelites say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ But I will judge each of you according to your own ways.” From these two passages, it's pretty easy to deduce that you will be judged for your own works, good or bad, and not that of your parents. There is no disputing the concept of familiar spirit. One way I know to overcome that is walking in righteousness, therefore, not giving the accuser anything to hold on to when he comes sniffing you. I hope this helps. I'm available to answer questions questions if you have more. ➕2️⃣3️⃣4️⃣7️⃣8️⃣8️⃣6️⃣7️⃣8️⃣0️⃣4️⃣7️⃣

[@victoriabassey263]

Hello TorqueBow I thank God for you being in the family of believers. Well regarding your question, it's true that Jesus was and is without sin. 1 John 3:5 5. You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. Hebrews 4:15 15. For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin. 2 Corinthians 5:21 21. He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. It's also true that many times we are burdened (afflicted or oppressed) because of the sins of those (or relatives) before us. 2 Samuel 21:1 1. During the reign of David there was a famine for three successive years, and David sought the face of the Lord. And the Lord said, “It is because of the blood shed by Saul and his family, because he killed the Gibeonites.” John 9:1‭-‬2 1. Now as Jesus was passing by, He saw a man blind from birth 2. And His disciples asked Him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Was Mary sinless? The answer is no. Mary was not sinless because she was born of man (flesh). 1 Corinthians 15:45‭, ‬47 45. Thus it is written, The first man Adam became a living being (an individual personality); the last Adam (Christ) became a life-giving Spirit [restoring the dead to life]. 47. The first man [was] from out of earth, made of dust (earthly-minded); the second Man [is] the Lord from out of heaven. The fact that she carried the Lord Jesus (by accepting God's will through faith) in her womb doesn't automatically make her become sinless. Like all of mankind, she can only be saved if she accepts the Lord Jesus as her Lord and Saviour. If she didn't, then her sins would still remain with her. But if she did accept Him, then like all men who come to the Lord Jesus, she'd probably have walked towards perfection. It's only Jesus Christ that is sinless because He was born of the Spirit (the Holy Spirit). Luke 1:31‭, ‬34‭-‬35 31. And listen! You will become pregnant and will give birth to a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus. 34. And Mary said to the angel, How can this be, since I have no [intimacy with any man as a] husband? 35. Then the angel said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you [like a shining cloud]; and so the holy (pure, sinless) Thing (Offspring) which shall be born of you will be called the Son of God". Do you understand this? If you feel your question was unanswered or there are more questions you'd like to ask, then we can keep speaking here. WhatsApp: Plus two three four seven zero eight nine four two seven five five eight

[@easysewing4780]

one afternoon, it comes my thought why do people including mary to their prayer. in that same night I dreamed that there were two processions on a mountain uphill to God and mary but there are lots of people processioning to mary but the backround and the color u can see was black and it's lifeless and scary. And suddenly I went to the procession to God but no one in there Only God. floating in the mountain God face lightining. and u will feel in Peace. and perfect Joy and God's Almighty his long white dress in there's an understanding like humbleness and purity and you could feel very peaceful.

[@Radtrad_strada]

You Protestant heretics are the reason why we Catholics have the 5 first saturdays devotion as our Lord asked Sister Lucia to observe. That devotion is made for you to save your soul from eternal damnation. You do not disrespect the Mother of Our Lord Jesus and get away with it. God Bless you and im praying for your conversions.

[@mitromney]

As a Catholic, I couldn't agree more. In some Catholic countries and communities, worship of Mary got dangerously out of hand. I certainly think it's alright to ask saints in heaven to pray for you, even if Scripture gives no examples - simply because we KNOW that saints are not dead but they are forever alive with God so it's no different than asking a living saint to pray. Even if it's not working as we imagine and for example they can't hear us - it's still hardly wrong to simply ask for prayer. And this is the official doctrine too - catholics shouldn't worship or pray to saints, vatican says. They should ask for prayer and maybe honour them in some generic sense, is all. But that doesn't change the fact, that there are MILLIONS of catholics who either don't know this, or couldn't care lessand they still worship and pray to Mary and other saints as if they were dieties. There are many songs and prayers about Mary and saints that are falso or straight blasphemy and should be forbidden but are allowed to continue. I've seen with my very eyes people bowing to Mary's paintings, giving their lives to her in official ceremonies and exhaulting her as saviour of humanity and my heart was bleeding in sadness every time. Church should not allow this to happen, and I pray it focuses more on these issues real soon.

[@szymonlewandowski8603]

You are not Catholic

[@urbanego621]

@@szymonlewandowski8603 i am catholic ..church is corrupted..same babylon ..will be burnt to ground for idol mary saint worship

[@moonstar6545]

@@urbanego621@@urbanego621 CATHOLICS DO NOT WORSHIP MARY but, they ask for her help and she intercedes for the people who ask her help and she gets help from GOD who is the only GOD and so, we cannot worship mary no matter how much highly exalted she is. if you are a catholic you should know this and defend your faith. go and watch on what Catholic theologians say about it.

[@urbanego621]

@@moonstar6545 I was just like you.I don't belong to any church now. I am free.Believe only bible and Jesus .I have read through the bible and wrote it down myself.See for yourself.I will defend good in everything . "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" -John 8:32 drive.google.com/file/d/1YjNSKqaBGcQsXe8gyhYcXeQRGPZjnFJ_/view?usp=sharing

[@urbanego621]

@@moonstar6545 What theology I was a catholic .Not belong to any church.We don't need any of this to go to god. The first and only person to go to heaven after Jesus is the The Penitent Thief near his cross. What did he do?Is he baptised?Does he belong to any church?No 1.He confessed his sins 2.He asked for forgiveness 3.He acknowledged Jesus as god That's called believe in Jesus. Not doing stupid things .Please go through Exodus .You can see 2nd commandments.Which is completely removed by many church in order to expand their business

[@fredrolinners8903]

Since latreuō is due unto God alone (Luke 4:8) and one of the ways Anna rendered latreuō is by her prayers (Luke 2:37) demonstrates that prayer is due unto God alone.

[@jesussanchez3459]

The Old Testament foreshadows the New Testament and the New Testament fulfills the Old Testament.

[@rogerbenjamin3396]

FYI - The Scripture mentioned Romans 2:28 "...but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words..." is actually from Romans 8:26.

[@rossironmonger2221]

Jesus taught us to pray ... "Our Father, who art in heaven .." Nothing in scripture tells us to pray to anyone other than God.

[@jayjayg7585]

Matthew 18 10-14 apparently the angels in heaven rejoiced yes they do know what going on here on earth. And God the fathers was rejoicing with them . Not just God . God is God of the living and the dead and if he is that and your living friend can pray for you then your friend in heaven can pray for you on your behalf and there prayers for you go straight to God . Moses is dead but living and Elijah living in heaven alive are they not and they comforted Jesus ?

[@alfray1072]

Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant, The Woman of Revelation, The NT Gebirah/Queen Mother and the Daughter of Zion that is why we pray for her protection and intercession. This is why Mary is the mother of the church. She gave birth to the Lord God Jesus - The Mystical Body of Christ i.e. the church. She plays a special role in the church. Intercessory prayers are instructed by St. Paul in 1 TIMOTHY 2:1. What does EPHESIANS 6:18 says? MAKING SUPPLICATION FOR ALL THE SAINTS ! Mary is not just a saint, she is the Ark of the New Covenant, The NT Gebirah, Daughter of Zion and the woman of revelation that is why we pray for her protection and intercession. SUPPLICATION (DEFINITION) - The action of asking or begging for something earnestly or humbly. EPHESIANS 6:18 Praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints, LUKE 1:28 HAIL FULL OF GRACE ROMANS 16:6 Salute Mary, who hath laboured much among you. Saints and angels in heaven interceding for us in REVELATION 4, 5, 6, 8. "Mediator" is Christ alone in one sense. As intercessors all members are " mediators". according to Catholicism and Scripture: 1- The Church is the body of Christ 2- There is only one body of Christ, not one on earth and another one in heaven. 3- Death does not separate the members of the body. 4- Christians are bound by the Law of Christ to love and pray for one another.

[@ELECTRICBIGE]

3:35 What about Rev5:8?

[@user-wq9ug3wr9j]

All Christians are saints

[@cynthiax56]

@@user-wq9ug3wr9j nope. SAINTS existed 15 centuries before the protestant revolt ever took place and protestantism does not come from Jesus either. Protestants are following the "Reformers" and their false teachings. Saints follow JESUS.....not Luther

[@jahreigns888]

19Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21And having an high priest over the house of God; 22Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. -Hebrews 10:29-22

[@robertlavrakas7442]

Nope. When Jesus said"you shall worship GOD and him alone" was Jesus giving a commandment or a suggestion?

[@donaldcooley897]

Saved believers worship God through Jesus Christ He is the only mediator .

[@davidhunter2393]

We don't worship mary

[@timiscorner4601]

@@davidhunter2393 Yes, true Catholic teachings does not tell us to worship Mary, that people may know and understand ;)

[@donaldcooley897]

@@timiscorner4601 Why do you worship her then? You pray to her . her name is talked about as a mediator , co-redeemer some one to bring us to Christ . That is not scriptural and it is a fabricated lie of the Catholic Church . The bible doesn`t teach any thing about mary she is never mentioned after Acts 1 :14 ; and never mention in the letters to the Churches . she has nothing to do with our relationship with Christ or with saved believers worshiping God. she is dead , with her spirit in heaven and she has no authority there or on earth .

[@forgoogletotrack7181]

Catholicism is essentially a syncretic religion on its own. It's a mixture of Christianity and ancient pagan goddess worship and pantheism. The Catholic church fathers tried to get pagans to accept Christ by elevating Mary to the position of a goddess, and that's why they called her the Queen of Heaven and taught the pagans that their pagan gods were saints who were now in heaven.

[@untaughtbiblelessons]

Exodus 20:4-5 states: 4You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.5You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me. God himself defined bowing/kneeling and worshipping as all equally bad - and that if you do both or any of these acts to anyone nor anything else, then it is a sin against God. Catholics kept bowing and praying on wooden, metal, and stone idols of humans (beings/forms that dwelled on the earth) as well as using the rosary to pray - Jesus nor the apostles never taught any of these things. God is a spirit and so we should pray to Him in spirit. These so called apparitions or miracles youre seeing revolving these idols are part of Satan's plan to deceive you all and lead you away from God. Why pray to the created instead of the Creator? Why pray to anyone else when we can pray directly to God?

[@johnproffitt3272]

I am a Catholic. And I freely acknowledge there can be found some excessive devotion to Mary or the saints, but in those instances, it is because the Catholic teaching isn't taught very well. Now, if I were to follow your logic, then there is no need for corporate prayer for specific needs. We don't need to have someone with cancer call on the church for prayer, or even a close friend or pastor if we don't want to make our needs public. All we need to do is pray to Jesus. We don't even need to pray to the Spirit because He knows our needs even better than we know them ourselves. But that violates the clear teaching in scripture where we are admonished to pray for one another. God created us not just for our relationship with Him, but also for a relationship with one another. We are the Body of Christ and cannot say that one part doesn't need another part. The dead in Christ, are also members of the [one] Body of Christ. There is not a Body of Christ in heaven and another Body of Christ on earth. The members Body of Christ in heaven are in a superior position to those of us on earth in that they stand in the very presence of the Father. Revelation 5:8 shows us that the saints in heaven offer up the prayers of the saints on earth as a fragrant incense. So there is nothing unscriptural or inappropriate for us to ask Mary or any of the saints in heaven to intercede with us for our needs.

[@fredrolinners8903]

We can have others pray 'for" us but they are not to pray "to" us. Revelation 5:8 does not teach that prayer is to be made unto anyone else besides God. First of all, nothing states or teaches that the 28 (4 living creatures and 24 elders) fully know the hearts from which these these prayers sprang forth and nowhere does it affirm that those on the earth communicated with the 28. Furthermore, we see in the Old Testament that Samuel presented to the Lord (in prayer) what the people had already spoken in His hearing (1 Samuel 8:21; cf. 1 Chronicles 28:8). That angels present prayers to God doesn't mean they are addressed in prayer anymore than when Samuel heard the words of the people and addressed them to God that Samuel was being prayed to. God already knew what was spoken in both instances even before they were spoken (Psalm 139:4; cf. Ezekiel 11:5).

[@johnproffitt3272]

@@fredrolinners8903 1. The word pray has multiple definitions. In the old sense of the word, to pray can also mean to ask - "Pray tell" or "Pray thee, my lord". In this sense of the word, I can pray to Mary to ask her intercession to be joined with my own intercession for some issue - a better job, healing of a dire illness, etc. In that context, the prayer is not a statement of worship, i.e. making Mary divine. The teaching of the Catholic Church is clear, worship and adoration is due to God alone. Mary is a creature, albeit a highly favored creature, but creature none the less. The Church gives us 3 words to explain the adoration and veneration that is appropriate - Latria is worship that is due to God alone. Dulia is veneration that is appropriate to the saints, and hyperdulia (an elevated form of veneration) is appropriate to Mary. You might want to study the explanation of those as provided by the Church to better understand the differences. However, suffice it to say, that Catholics do not worship Mary or the saints, we ask for their intercession in the same way we would ask for one anothers intercession. 2. Your explanation of Revelation 5:8 ignores the fact that the prayers of the faithful on earth are passing through the hands of the saints in heaven. Your claim that the bible doesn't explicitly teach that those receiving the prayers know the hearts of the people on earth praying can only be an extension of the mistaken and erroneous Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura. That is probably the subject of a whole debate in and of itself, however, Sola Scriptura is fallacious on its face as it is self-refuting. Nowhere is scripture, do you find scripture telling us that only scripture is to be used as truth. In fact, in I Timothy 3:14-15, we are told that it is the Church, not scripture, which is the pillar and bulwark of truth. Catholics believe that everything contained in scripture is true, but not everything that is true is necessarily found in scripture. We believe that Sacred Tradition and the teaching office of the Magisterium are also essential to the full understanding of scripture. 3. As to whether or not folks in heaven are aware of or interested in or invested in what is happening on earth, I'd refer you to a couple of examples of exactly that: 28 Now about eight days after these sayings he took with him Peter and John and James, and went up on the mountain to pray. 29 And as he was praying, the appearance of his countenance was altered, and his raiment became dazzling white. 30 And behold, two men talked with him, Moses and Eli′jah, 31 who appeared in glory and spoke of his departure, which he was to accomplish at Jerusalem. (Luke 9:28-31 RSVCE) and: 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

[@justinambrose3107]

Did you say there's nothing scripture about Mary or the saints to intercede with us for our needs??? Why does God specifically say in the Bible to pray to Jesus in Jesus only??

[@justinambrose3107]

@@johnproffitt3272 yeah but I can't pray to my dead mom because she is dead and other senses how can Mary even answer your prayers if she's a dead woman??? I'm not trying to disrespect her cuz she did give birth to Jesus that's it ..but at the same time not only did God say only pray to me but by saying praying to her you're making her God because if billions of people are praying at once how is she answering all these prayers? She a supernatural being???nasty cult

[@LockMacFly]

@@johnproffitt3272 how can you assume a person is in heaven? Why is the person not in hell or even still in the grave sleeping the sleep of the death? I think those small non straightforward verses have huge impact if you see them as proof

[@albinsiby729]

Asking her to pray for you, is a form of praying. It's not like when you ask others to pray for you. Catholics see Mary in an exalted position. And I'm an ex-catholic and I know that I "prayed" to Mary.

[@wolves201]

Aha...thank you! I have been having conversations with Catholics because, to be honest, I have been considering converting. But...I have noted that they exalt Mary to a position to what seems equal to or higher than Christ. I also don't understand how a priest can induce the bread and wine to become the literal body and blood of Christ!

[@albinsiby729]

@@wolves201 Your welcome . Don't become a catholic. Catholicism is NOT Christianity! It's Just another false religion from Hell. They preach a false Gospel of Faith+Works(indulgences, etc ) . And Paul said in Galatians, when the Galatians were being led astray by the Judaizers towards a Faith+Works (Faith+Circumcision) Salvation, he said, anyone who preaches another Gospel, even if it be an Angel from Heaven, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:8 - 9 "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed." The other Gospel here doesn't mean that there is another Gospel. Because there is ONLY one Gospel and Only One name that can save- JESUS CHRIST Alone. Galatians 1:6 - 7 "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ." Act 4:12 "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” It is the religion of the Antichrist, just like All the other False religion. Here is the pagan freemasonic charlatan, busy making preparations of the One world religion, for the New World Order, signing contracts with Islam, which denies CHRIST and the Bible : reformedmalaya.blogspot.com/2017/07/would-you-believe-that-jesuit-pope.html?m=1 www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=1034 www.technocracy.news/one-world-religion-pope-francis-signs-historic-covenant-with-islam/ Here is another one - John Paul 2 : www.google.com/search?q=John+paul+kissing+Quran&client=ms-android-xiaomi&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjgwu6E7fzjAhVVdCsKHZzQCkAQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=360&bih=560&dpr=3 The catholics I've conversed with are so deluded to think that these ministers of satan, who lead catholicism, are divinely appointed by God: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.insider.com/crazy-popes-in-history-2017-1 Here are some rescources I would like to leave you with, which would help you to understand the falsehood of Catholicism. They're plenty, Watch them when you get time : kzbin.info/aero/PLZ3iRMLYFlHvsToYQdfDkiDE6dPkouIv3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKKvlWujm52YiZY kzbin.info/www/bejne/iF61mqGujaueiZY kzbin.info/aero/PL_hX1yntQEcGeZ23jr0dnrnfoEbAM0W2G fdocuments.in/document/biblical-refutation-of-mariology.html carm.org/roman-catholicism Please go through them and stay away from catholicism.

[@wolves201]

@@albinsiby729 Thanks for your insights and links. Will definitely check them all out. As you will know, their standard reposte to 'faith alone' is James letter where it says 'by works and not faith alone'. I have been surprised by the number of ministers and ministry leaders, from Pentecostal to Reformed, who have converted. Thanks again Very much appreciated.

[@albinsiby729]

@@wolves201 Sure.👍 Glad to hear that. ☺️

[@vickyvicky-sf9im]

Ur rite excatholic here...now I pray only to Jesus our Lord.

[@thecarlosnino80]

Great video again gents.

[@MsRenny23]

Amen.

[@msn1590]

I think we have to be careful of wrong claims, wrong spirit, in both Catholic or non-Catholic ideas.

[@jesussaves7890]

I have told to a girl who was praying to Mary " Give me just one verse where it says to pray to her" and she didn't give me . I gave her a lot of verses about praying to God only and not praying to Mary or saints and she gave me nothing from the Bible. not even a verse. She was telling me just what priests were telling to people. And when I asked her to show me a verse she said something like " I don't wanna discuss this anymore. "

[@rosemarymorin6702]

Jesus Saves I too ex- Catholic was trying to show someone by scripture that through Jesus not Mary . I JUST LEFT WITH PEACE AND LOVE AND SAID GOD BLESS YOU I JUST PRAY THAT THE TRUTH BE MADE KNOWN TO HER. REAL TRUTH, REAL QUIK I SAID .

[@ciso5765]

Jesus Saves I'll show you biblically and when I show you, you will convert to Catholicism. Deal?

[@andrefernandes765]

We Do Not Pray to Mary! We ask her to pray for us. She is the Mother Queen of Jesus, who is the King of Heaven. She is an intercessor just as the Jewish Queen's throughout the ages were, as they acted as an intercessor on the behalf o the Kings of the many regions of Israel. You are correct that the Bible says not to pray to Mary, that is why as Catholics we do not. We ask for her to pray for us, as an intercessor for the King in Heaven.

[@alvarez321]

@Michael Lopez For starters you call Mary Holy. She is not Holy. Holy means perfect in goodness and righteousness. The only perfect one was Jesus. Second, when Jesus died on the cross he sent the Holy Spirit to live within our hearts. Jesus alone is our mediator for God. 1 Timothy 2:5, for there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Jesus Christ. We don't need a mediator between us and Jesus. He lives in us.

[@rosemarymorin6702]

@@Kitiwake well hi Pat this is Rose as we all say give me a verse where it says to pray to her that she is a mediator or intercessor there is no scripture or verse that says to ask or pray for her really after Jesus died she was never mentioned again for anyting Jesus didn't even speak to her after he was risen God gave His only begotten son Jesus who died at the cross not Mary and Jesus says pray to my father in my name and I shall give you what you ask for he doesn't mention anybody else's name so I'm sorry I read and listen to the Bible everyday as much as I can and I still haven't heard anything about Mary so may the truth be known to you in Jesus name which is the way the truth and the life love and peace

[@pinkfuschia8140]

Yes. I respect Mary, but being brought up Catholic, when I did used to pray to her I always felt I wasn't getting any answer. My very faithful grandfather said it was good for little girls to have a lady to go to and he gave me rosary beads and a little statue of her to pray in front of. I am horrified now that I did that. Did you know that rosary beads weren't originally a Catholic idea. They were introduced by merchants who sold them to other religions also to make money. In Islam they have prayer beads. We know that God is not impressed by repetitive prayer, but prayers from the heart. He asks you to throw your anxieties on him: Philippians 4:6-9.

[@pinkfuschia8140]

Matthew 6:5-8 tells us how to pray (NRSV): "And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward.6 But whenever you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.[b] 7 “When you are praying, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do; for they think that they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him." Lord Jesus then goes on to show us the model prayer for an idea of how to address our Father, but we know it's not the repetitive words he wants, but us speaking to Him individually. He also tells us afterwards about forgiveness of others before we expect forgiveness from Him. So what is in your heart is vital too.

[@dwightgatchalianjr.499]

God prohibits the VAIN repetitions of prayer. The Angels sang and prayed to God again and again. Other characters in the Bible repeated their prayers. Even Jesus Christ repeated His prayer in Matthew 26:44. Don't say that citing the Holy Rosary is the VAIN repetition that God prohibits. It contains the Lord's Prayer from Luke 11:2-4, and the Hail Mary which is in Luke 1:28,42. Do you consider citing these again and again a vain repetition? Is saying these biblical words vain? I don't think so.

[@dwightgatchalianjr.499]

@@pinkfuschia8140 Catholic church neither encourages to pray publicly nor showoff their faith to others. Actually I am a Catholic, and I don't pray publicly. Maybe you can't just deny the fact that most of the time, when we pray, there are people who could see us praying.

[@pinkfuschia8140]

@@dwightgatchalianjr.499 What do you mean by 'there are people who could see us praying?" Do you mean as a Catholic when we go in front of a statue or do you mean just any christian when we pray together with others?

[@dwightgatchalianjr.499]

@@pinkfuschia8140 Why are you pointing out Catholics as what being referred by Matthew 6:5-8?

[@pattimoose1]

Thank you for this straight forward video. I get so attacked for saying we are not to pray to Mary. Catholics are staunch on this, as seen in all the comments below. I read that they even think the spirit descended on her and she is the new Ark of the Covenant. It astounds me how the enemy uses anything and everything to push this non-scriptural agenda on man. Thank you for using scripture to back up what you said!!!

[@fadikhoory5350]

'Attacked' as in correct.

[@matildamaher2650]

Explained straight from the scriptures, Only Jesus Christ we are to pray and ask forgiveness. Thank you

[@shawnsands5774]

Right. But you ask Mary and these saints to pray for you. Fatima is a great example of Mary asking us to pray the rosary to help others. All of the people are asking Mary to ask Jesus. Wedding of cana, Jesus told his mother it was not his time. She asked him and he did what she said. Thats the mother of God and all of humanity, as he explained in his final words on the cross. In small words, Mary prays with us, and you are asking her to join you in prayer. Its a beautiful thing, think about it before discarding the thought. God bless you all.

[@gamingwithtanjiroplaysgame7956]

@@shawnsands5774 😂😂😂 what the dead can’t hear our prayers man that is impossible 😑

[@shawnsands5774]

@@gamingwithtanjiroplaysgame7956 in scripture, king sol conjured up Salomon soul for guidance. Which wasn't a good thing, but it did happen.

[@hopelessnostalgic8444]

@@shawnsands5774 Mary & the Saints, although their souls are in heaven, cannot pray for you. And even if they could, it’s not any more special than any human on earth’s prayers. The Bible says that Jesus is the only intercessor between Man & God. Not Mary, not the saints. We should pray to and thru him ONLY. Asking dead saints to pray for you is unbiblical.

[@jvlp2046]

Based on the other blog, the Rosary came to existence around 1214 A.D. only thru Saint Dominic given by Blessed Virgin Mary. Therefore, the Apostles and early Christianity do not have the practice of praying the Rosary. Christ Jesus did not teach his Apostles/Disciples about the Rosary prayer but instead, He taught them the "Lord's Prayer," as a simple and short prayer without repetition (babbling) as a guide pattern for our personal prayer to God. I truly love, respect, and honor Blessed Mary in a Biblical way (manner) as the surrogate mother of Christ Jesus humanity (Body/Flesh), but not the Divine Nature of Christ (LOGOS/WORD). It is not appropriate to call Blessed Mary as the "Mother of GOD" for she has nothing to do with the Divine Nature of Christ (GOD) for the Son of God existed along with the Father God in His bosom and before Blessed Mary were even created/born. Therefore, "Mother of Jesus" or "Mother of Christ," is the right and appropriate title and acknowledgment for her, but not "Mother of GOD." I also have a problem with the title "VIRGIN" attached to Blessed Mary... The bible stated by Mary herself, who said, "I will be called BLESSED among women." She did not say, "I will be called BLESSED VIRGIN among women." The original manuscript that was written and prophesied by Prophet Isaiah was "Ha Alma" which means "Young Maiden/girl." The word maiden/girl does not always necessarily mean to be virgin, based on the bible... Remember the only daughter of Jacob, after Dinah was raped, she was still called "Ha Alma" (Maiden), as a young girl without a husband. God the father just needs a "Full of Grace" young girl (Ha Alma) who happens to be a virgin at that time without a husband yet, (only betrothal/fiancee) when the visitation of Angel Gabriel occurred to ask her own permission (freewill) whether she will accept or reject the task given to her by GOD, to use her WOMB as a vessel to carry the Humanity (Flesh/Body) for the Son of GOD. in modern terminology, it is called, 'SURROGATE MOTHER."... Why is it so? In Hebrew 10:5 (paraphrased) Christ said, "a PREPARED BODY (flesh) was created for me by my Father." In this sense, there was no fertilization of the Egg of Mary by the Holy Spirit to create the Flesh of Christ Jesus. It was already a prepared body by God the Father long before Mary was born. It was placed by GOD the "Prepared Body" (most likely perhaps a 3 to 7 days old fetus) to Mary's womb. In modern technology today, it is proven to be successfully possible to implant a fetus to a surrogate mother, the same way what GOD have done 2000 years ago in Israel. Now, regarding the "PERPETUAL (Forever) VIRGINITY of Blessed Mary," the Bible does not support that because according to the scripture, St. Joseph himself attested and said, "I never knew my wife (Mary) until (after) Christ Jesus was born and called HIm Jesus" (paraphrase Matt. 1:25)_. The word "KNEW" was a modest way of stating a "Marital Sexual Consummation" relationship between husband and wife... Therefore, regardless of whether Blessed Mary has other children, (which is debatable) the fact supported by the Bible, was that her virginity was gone after Christ Jesus was born... To deny this Biblical narration by St. Joseph means the Bible is wrong and lied to us. Regarding, ASSUMPTION of Blessed Mary which means she did not taste death, for her body was taken by the Angels in Heaven as a doctrine of Catholic was also not supported by the Bible. Why? First, it was not written in the scripture, and second, is it odd, that Apostle John who happens to be the caregiver of Blessed Mary did not even write a single letter/epistle or document to prove the Assumption of Blessed Mary?... How come Apostle John did not even recognize in Revelation 12, the woman clothed with the Sun with a crown of 12 stars on her head? Why John did not recognize the Woman as Blessed Mary? Apostle John should have written, "A mystery in Heaven, I (John) saw Blessed Mary clothed with the Sun with a crown of 12 stars on her head." But it was not written that way because the woman was not truly Blessed Mary, for the woman symbolized as a Nation like Israel (People (Jews) of GOD) or perhaps Church of GOD (Christians) but definitely not Blessed Mary. Another thing, the title "IMMACULATE CONCEPTION (without original sin) of Blessed Mary," was not also supported by the Holy Scripture (Bible). The word "FULL OF GRACE" does not mean without original sin for St. Stephen was also called Full of Grace with Power, yet he tasted death from stoning... In Luke 1:46-49 (paraphrase) Blessed Mary said and proclaimed, "My (Mary) soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in GOD, my SAVIOR." It is very clear from her own statement, that Blessed Mary acknowledged that she needs a Savior... A person who is "SINLESS" does not need a Savior. In Roman 3:23 (paraphrase) it says, "For ALL have sinned and fall short of the Glory of GOD." It did not say, "except Blessed Mary, all sinned and fall short in the Glory of GOD." To deny this written scripture that ALL (no exception/all human) sinned and fall short means the Bible is a fraud, incorrect, wrong, and lied to us... Lastly, the titles "Queen of Heaven" and "Queen of Peace", this titles were nowhere to be found in the Bible. From Isaiah 9:6 (paraphrase) Christ Jesus was called the "Prince of Peace." Now, if Blessed Mary is truly the Queen of Peace as the Catholic proclaimed, logically speaking, it only follows to show that Blessed Mary is higher than Christ Jesus, for a Queen is higher in position or rank than a Prince... That is why the "Queen of Peace" nor the "Queen of Heaven" are not appropriate titles for Blessed Mary, biblically speaking... Amen.

[@alexlauria4076]

You explained it so well glory to GOD you should do a video GOD bless you

[@jvlp2046]

@@alexlauria4076 Thank you very much, peace be with you... Just to add that I forgot to mention... The APOSTLES' CREED (1st-2nd Cent. A.D.) was recited by early Christian converts (Jews/Gentiles) verbally at their gatherings in their time then eventually was written. The Apostles' Creed stated at the beginning, in part, "He (Christ) was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born by/of the Blessed Mary"... Who Conceived?...answer... Holy Spirit,... Who bore/born?... answer... Blessed Mary... This is called in our modern scientific terminology, "Surrogate Motherhood"... which proves that not ALL who delivers (born) a child from her own womb does not always be her BIOLOGICAL Child... Only in our generation today, what God has done more than 2000 years ago was truly remarkable possible in the eyes of man... Definitely, No DNA (Egg Cell) from Blessed Mary, the "Prepared Body" of Christ Jesus stated in Hebrew 10:5... Amen.

[@jvlp2046]

@@alexlauria4076 Just to add a little bit more, when the Roman Catholic Church came into existence and power, they changed/revised it into NICENE'S CREED in the 4th Cent. A.D. and changed the context and terminology into the word "INCARNATE" (Incarnatus in Latin) which means that Blessed Mary, both "conceived and born" the Son of Man, Christ Jesus... Now, Blessed Mary is partially (half breed) Biological mother of Christ Jesus, that is the reason why she has the right to be called the "Mother of GOD," in the Catholic Church's view, but not from the True Christian point of the TRUTH... Amen.

[@alexlauria4076]

@@jvlp2046 Amen glory to the most high. I get a lot of heat when I say GOD never had a mother Mary was a vessel for the body of our savior Christ how can people who call themselves Christians call Mary holy mother of God that's blasphemy in my view I do respect Mary 100% but i would never pray to her because in my view according to the Bible our savior Christ is our one and only mediator God bless you keep preaching the truth

[@jvlp2046]

@@alexlauria4076 I, too, love, respect, and honor Blessed Mary in the Biblical way, not man's way... Regarding your encouragement for me to do a video... well, I thought that many times and a long time ago... but I will be popular, be honored, praised, and perhaps earn money from doing this video for my Blog... The bible said when it comes to 'Spiritual/Religious Matters,"... FREELY RECEIVED from the Holy Spirit (the knowledge, understanding, revelations, and wisdom) we must and need to FREELY GIVE/SHARE to others... So, I decided to be just a "SMALL VOICE" with no NAME for my own, so that the praise and honor will ALL be for the Glory of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit... Just like St. John the Baptist,... I am just a small voice writing on Social Media (John, shouting in the wilderness of the desert), "make way for the Lord, thy God"... Amen.

[@susanbowers7074]

Why are there so many apparitions of Mary ? And of course the most famous one when she appeared to 3 children and taught them the rosary?makes me confused

[@dherpin4874]

The images (though physical) only serve as a point of focus for the spiritual the object itself is not an item of worship only an aid in directing our prayer to God. By meditating on the lives of those who have most pleased God we can find aid in how to please God ourselves. This is the same concept as the bible. Outside of the gospels, everything else is a study of the faithful (and not so faithful) interactions with the divine will. Reeding the words of Paul does not provide a distraction from God, but an aid in how to please God. This is an aid because we contemplate the life of Paul through his writings. The bible is not necessary to contemplate Paul's exemplary service to Our Lord but does help in focusing our interrer towards God. The images we use of the saints or simply an aid to help focus our interior towards God by contemplating the exemplary life of that saint. Our praying "to saints" is not some kind of idol worship or side-stepping Christ Our Lord no more than reading the words in the Bible spoken by someone other than Christ would be. Good orders ALL good towards himself a meditation on the good is a mediation on some aspect of God. Not all of us need spiritual help in the same areas of life therefore we look to those who have gone before us that have struggled and perfected the areas in which we need the most help and "pray to them" for them intercede for use to the Lord Our God. This is is simular in asking a friend to pray for you to Our Lord, your friend would not be somehow another mediator to the Father, but rather being a member of Christ and ONLY through Christ are your friend's prayers heard by the Father as a member of Christ Mystical Body and not as a stand-alone mediator aside form Christ. Furthermore, those you have gone on to be with the Lord in the next life are even more glorified and because of their heightened state of grace their pryers are more powerful, but ONLY in Christ and not as some stand-alone god type thing. All prayers are heard ONLY through Christ the ONE AND ONLY mediator to the Father. However, in Christ we can intercede on each other's behalf and become in a small way co-mediators IN CHRIST. Mother Mary surpassed all other saints and because of Her "YES" and fidelity to the will of God She is elevated above all others IN and THROUGH CHRIST. This makes Her prayers for the faithful more powerful than any other saint. Why go to someone other then Christ is likely the thought I would get from most protestants, well that's just it if we are in Christ then going to a follow members of Christ Body is not going to anyone other than Christ Himself, but through a specific means that may be more beneficial to your soul. If a soul on earth not yet in the fullness of Glory can pray then the soul already in heaven can pray all the more and the higher their place in heaven the greater the effect of their prayers. James 5:16 states the prayer of a righteous man availeth much.... well who are more righteous than those who have risen and gone to be with the Lord. Further, contemplate this verse spoken to Mary by the Holy Spirit through Simeon Luke2:35 "Yea a sword shall pierce throw thy own soul also that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed." How are "many" hearts revealed?... Through prayer. Every once of power The Blessed Mother has in an act of Grace from God without whom none, no not one would be able to do the simplest act of good. One last thing the rich man prayed “to” “father” Abraham to send Lazarus to his father and brothers on earth and Abrahams response was not I can’t do that as it was when the rich man asked for water, however Abraham said if the prophets didn’t make a difference neither will a man conning back from the dead. Serval points here...1- the rich man is asking (praying to) Abraham 2- the rich man is aware of and and praying for his family bin earth 3- this doesn’t appear to be hell because of his love and concern for his family (hell is void of love) 4- although Abraham says it won’t make a difference (similar to when at the wedding feast Jesus tells Mary “it is not My time”, but performs the miracle anyway) Jesus raises Lazarus from the dead.

[@pinkfuschia8140]

We used to sing "Ave Maria" in Latin, which is the Hail Mary as spoken by Elizabeth. However, the hymn I sang went on in English to say "As I kneel before you, And I bow my head in prayer . . " It was wrong. My grandfather would encourage especially the girls to pray to Mary, saying "It's nice for you to have a girl to pray to for intercession." I never felt any prayer answered that way. Wonderful example though she is.

[@GeroG3N]

So I suppose that you also don't ask your friends or family members to pray for you.

[@darkma1ice]

@@GeroG3N that’s a fallacy. Hail Mary’s is asking Mary to pray for you, she’s not alive and you can’t talk to the dead. asking your friends to pray for you TO GOD in Jesus’ name is NOT the same.

[@GeroG3N]

@@darkma1ice Wrong. 1) Communication involves a back and forth exchange, we are not consulting nor speaking to them. And either way people in heaven are not dead, they are alive in Christ. The Bible tells us that those in Heaven have “eternal life” and that our God is the “God of the living and not the dead”. (John 3, Luke 20, Mark 12) "I am the resurrection and the life; he who belives in me, though he die, yet shall he live" (Jn. 11:25) The question is whether it is reasonable to assume that people in heaven can see what is happening on earth. The Bible certainly does not say otherwise. Do you have a quote from the bible that says that those who are in heaven cannot observe what happens on earth? Revelation 8:4: "And the smoke of the incense of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God from the hand of the angel." 2) Cleatly It's not the same. The prayers of those in heaven are more effective than those of our sinful brothers and sisters. "Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power to prevail." (James 5:16). There is no one more righteous than those who are in heaven, especially Mary, mother of Jesus and called blessed in the Bible. We ask Mary and the saints to pray for us, because their prayers are more effective. That's it.

[@_whataday_3231]

@@GeroG3N Where in scripture does it say that praying in heaven is even a thing? Or that we should pray to those who are deceased? How do you know that the prayer of those in heaven, if they even can, is more effective? No offense but where is the substance that supports this? Edit: also why wouldn’t Mary have said this herself in scripture of God had set this in place for believers to do so?

[@GeroG3N]

@@_whataday_3231 Everything you said was already addressed in my comment, read it again.

[@michaelatkinson4977]

Wonderful, wonderful biblical truth!! God Bless to my brother in Christ, Todd!

[@cynthiax56]

Nope, The claims made by protestants are not Biblical. None of you know the bible as well as you think you do. PROOF.... ➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE: ... The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ... ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: ● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: Rev 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb. ➨ JOHN 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. ➨The KING Honours his mother's request: ● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.” ● The Claim that Saints are among the dead, and we are forbidden to contact them is ALSI false: ➨SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: (Protestants attack Biblical saints while they follow dead reformers) ● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" ● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. ● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. ● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. ● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. ● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. ● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) ● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transformation of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead. ➨HONOURING MARY: LUKE 1:48: All generations will call Mary Blessed. We Catholics are the ones who call her the BLESSED Virgin Mary and treat her accordingly. ➨NOWHERE does the bible permit protestants (or anyone else) to Scrutinize & monitor the prayers of other people, nor to judge their sincerity or their salvation. ★★★

[@chiefcommander3027]

@@cynthiax56 So because Mary said “do what my son says” she’s now the queen of heaven and we are now allowed to pray to a dead woman? lol

[@cynthiax56]

@@chiefcommander3027 ➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE ...INCLUDING BIBLICAL PROOF that SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ... ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: ● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: JOHN 2:1 At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: REV 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb. ➨The KING Honours his mother's request: ● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.” (Jesus is the Greatest King and he also honours his mother's requests) SAINTS ALSO WORKED MIRACLES: ➨ JOHN 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. ➨ PAUL RAISES A MAN FROM THE DEAD: ● ACTS 20:7-12 9 And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead. 10 And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.20: ● MARK 6:12-13... 12 They went out and preached that people should repent. 13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them. ● ACTS 19:12 The Handkerchief of Paul healed sick people: 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. ● ACTS 5:15 The shadow of Peter healed the sick: so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them. ➨SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: AND THEIR INTERCESSION IS BIBLICAL: They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: (Protestants attack Biblical saints while they follow dead reformers) ● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. ● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" ● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. ● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. ● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. ● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. ● LUKE 9:30-31 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. (Moses & Elijah were alive, and were yalking with Jesus) ● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) ● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transfiguration of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead. ➨HONOURING MARY: LUKE 1:48: All generations will call Mary Blessed. We Catholics are the ones who call her the BLESSED Virgin Mary and treat her accordingly. RELICS OF THE SAINTSS ● 2 Kings 13:21 The Bones of Elijah revived a man: 21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet ● ACTS 19:12 The Handkerchief of Paul healed sick people: 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. ● ACTS 5:15 The shadow of Peter healed the sick: so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them. ● MARK 6:12-13... 12 They went out and preached that people should repent. 13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them. (the use of oil, a material substance was used to heal people) ➨NOWHERE does the bible permit protestants (or anyone else) to Scrutinize & monitor the prayers of other people, nor to judge their sincerity or their salvation. Protestantism does not come from jesus. It began with Martin Luther in 1517 & exists Only to oppose the Catholic church which Jesus founded 15 centuries B4 the protestant revolt. They only know & accept the PARTS of the Bible that suit them and they do not have an accurate bible either.

[@cynthiax56]

@@chiefcommander3027 The QUEENSHIP AND ASSUMPTION OF MARY IN THE BIBLE: REV 12:1 A great sign appeared in the heavens, a woman clothed with the sun, the moon under her feet and on her head a CROWN (signifying a Queen) of 12 stars. REV 12 tells us this woman who appears in the heavens, is the woman who gives birth to the male child that will rule the nations so we know she is MARY. We don't care how you pray and we don't scrutinize your prayers like you do to us, which will come back to bite you, because the more you judge and scrutinize others, the more you will be judged and scrutinized

[@cynthiax56]

Protestants IGNORE and ARGUE WITH vast amounts of scriptures and PRTEST-antism has nothing to do with Jesus. The Protestant revlt was started by Martin Luther and other MEN

[@thomeusedward3585]

When he says who ever has seen me has seen the father means who ever knows him knows the father meaning he is an example of who god wants you to be

[@porkc78nj19]

Question: Why we should pray to mother Mary? Answer: Why Pray to Mary? Because Jesus has given us his Blessed Mother as our great spiritual mother (Rev.12:17), a heavenly advocate who intercedes for us. Some Christians will ask, “Why pray to Mary when we can go directly to Jesus?” And yet they have no problem asking others here on earth to pray for them, instead of simply and solely praying to Jesus on their own. Indeed, St. Paul says that God grants blessings “in answer to many prayers” (2 Cor. 1:11). And if the prayer of a righteous man on earth avails much with God (Jas. 5:16-18), how much more would prayers from one who has finished the race and now reigns with Christ in heaven?

[@paulkachari85]

Hallelujah 🇮🇳🇮🇳✝️

[@carolloughridge8483]

Can you guys blow me away you’re just fantastic because even though I disagree with you I do admire you because you are respectful and calm and your arguments are reasonable and intelligently stated sometimes it used to make me sad when Christians would get all over each other and tell each other that they were going to hell if they did this thing with that thing now if I think of it as sibling rivalry it just makes me smile because we all sometimes feel like we have to compete for gods attention and be right and make another person wrong oh I like the boys and mother because she’s very comforting to me I want Jesus to but I love Mary because she’s female and I think that the feminine does deserve a place in the divine also I am an abuse survivor I was abused by mail and that change the person in a very deep primal way that only very special people can really understand but thanks again for this amazing piece of theology

[@rosemarymorin6702]

Same here!!!! but I know now, that we sometimes as bad as it gets God keeps his promise to never ever leave me or forsake me. So now, I believe and trust him no matter what. too bad I had to be in the darkest pit, that I felt there was no way out. But yes, there was Jesus right beside me , taking the worst of my pain, no one else but him. Thank you God for loving me so much, that your son, Jesus, was my rescuer. Forever grateful and thankful. Amen!!!!!!!! Carol, May you be blessed with the peace of Jesus that he has given us. Amen!!!!

[@AnnetteMurphyger]

Mary can't help you sadly she has no divine attributes.

[@barbwellman6686]

@@AnnetteMurphyger Personalized souls of the saints - in the Presence of God - can and do assist the militant saints on Earth. Triumphant souls are more effective in charity, not less so than we here on Earth.

[@AnnetteMurphyger]

@@barbwellman6686 but the Bible says to pray to God only.

[@barbwellman6686]

@@AnnetteMurphyger We ask the Triumphant saints in the Presence of God to pray to Him for us (just as we ask saints on Earth to intercede in prayer to God for us). "Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death, Amen."

[@justthink8952]

The right question should be:- is it a sin to pray to Mary to intercede for us? How?

[@chynnabuenavista3993]

Yay! Preach it!

[@rangers94ism]

Why? It was terrible and wrong. Seriously, I am a Catholic and what was that guy talking about.

[@chynnabuenavista3993]

I understand. Been there, too. I was born Catholic in a devoted Catholic family. I felt that feeling as well. It's indeed disturbing but as I choose to listen, understand, and verify it personally by reading the bible myself.. That's when it opened my mind with the truth. I opened my mind and heart to search for the truth, I discussed it with my trusted friends/leaders/mentors after reading some notes or watching videos and read the bible. I was told to be mindlful of the authors of the book in the bible (such as the book of John was written by John the beloved, the first five books in the Old Testament was written by Moses. But all these was written because it was inspired by the Holy Spirit. Still the works of God), the timeline of the book when it was written, the audience of it. I could say, the more we box God with our limited understanding, the more He will prove Himself bigger and beyond our understanding. That's why I always pray and ask for wisdom and understanding before reading His word, and help me to hold fast to the truth and nothing but the truth because it will be very hard to live in a lie, fake news, etc. There's no other more versions of the truth and it does not depend on our vote. And as I was found by Him, it's where I found joy, peace, and love that I'm sure everyone is been searching and longing for. Let me give you this verse, bretheren: Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. Let me suggest to you to watch the bible project. They create videos about the bible, its themes, books and overviews and don't forget to read and verify it yourself in the bible. You are blessed and loved by the Lord. He wants to build a personal relationship with you.😊

[@loremaster234]

Same! I grew up Catholic and felt the same way at first but after opening my Bible things changed. Praise God our Father in Heaven in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

[@edybrown9402]

@@rangers94ism As a child of God, you're supposed to pray to God through Jesus Christ and not through Mary or any other name.

[@5jenn1]

But how is Mary going to hear our prayer if she does not consist of the father, son and Holy Spirit ?

[@hellenicboi14]

Mary was risen to heaven with a crown of 12 stars. She is listening should we ask.

[@zuzu7365]

@@hellenicboi14 can you give me a Scripture that says that?

[@hellenicboi14]

@@zuzu7365 Revelations 12: A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.

[@zuzu7365]

@@hellenicboi14 The woman symbolizes Israel. Genesis 37 tells us Joseph, Jacob's favored son, had a dream in which Jacob's other sons and his parents bowed down to him. When he told his father Jacob about the dream, his father immediately applied the imagery. The sun and moon were Joseph's father and mother, Jacob-also named Israel-and Rachel. Joseph's brothers were the eleven stars. The crown on the woman's head probably signifies that Christ's future kingdom will center in Israel. Although Joseph's brothers bowed down to him in Egypt (Genesis 42:6), someday restored Israel will bow down to Jesus, who is far greater than Joseph.

[@hellenicboi14]

@@zuzu7365 That's a huge stretch. The stars represent the 12 patriarchs of the tribes of Israel under the covenant. Mary was assumed as the living new covenant by carrying Jesus who fulfilled all of requirements as our living manna of the world, the high priest, and God's word made manifest. Jesus is the natural head of the 12 tribes as the high priest, and Mary as the ark of the new covenant carries this imagery as the spouse of Christ. (2 Corinthians: 11:2) (Isaiah 54:5) (Isaiah 62:5) (Jeremiah 31:32)

[@richardmurchland8708]

romans chapter 1 versus 16 romans chapter 3 versus 23.24.25. romans chapter 10 versus 9.10.13. 1st corinthians chapter 15 versus 1through 4 john chapter 3 versus 16,17.18.

[@joeycarter8846]

I curious about the fellow on the right saying, "We never see anyone in the Bible say, 'Pray for anybody on Earth'. We only pray to Jesus Christ or the Father." ...Yet I hear people all the time say, "I'm not feeling well; pray for me," or "Pray for my brother, who was in an accident," or "God bless you." etc. Aren't these people being intermediaries? Aren't the saints considered closer to God, somehow? I'm not Catholic, but I've heard their reasoning...of saints being closer to God, so can help you in your need. I don't know....

[@drewwallace7383]

Praying for another Is fellowshipping and caring for one another It says in the Bible that should not call out to the dead it is an abomination

[@psallen5099]

Jesus did not come to write a book, he came to found a church. There is only one church with an apostolic succession back to the apostles. That is the Catholic Church.

[@DanielMaloneJr]

Amen 🙏🏽

[@hotwings80]

Jesus did not come to Earth to found a church. Jesus came to pay the penalty of sin, which is death, for us so that all who believe in Him shall have everlasting life. Our salvation comes through Him and not through some church. Read your Bible. The truth will set you free.

[@danielleeper8719]

@@hotwings80 He also came for the church though. He planted that idea into their heads and even told a mere man to preach His word. He told Peter to start the Church and to continue the teachings of Jesus. Eventually this turned into what is known as the Roman Catholic Church and it is Roman because, its origins are in Rome but it is a Church because it also originates at the place of worship which is to Jesus.

[@psallen5099]

Jesus founded a church to carry on his teachings after he left this world,, forgive sins, and offer the sacraments. “You are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church”.

[@villarrealmarta6103]

I also don’t think we should apologize by saying: “I’m not trying to offend you.” If there’s offense taken it’s at God’s word not ours.

[@jetparonable5667]

We can never love Mary more than Jesus did, she was her mom. We only adore God. We don’t adore Mary. We love her, and we ask her prayers, which is no more worship than if I ask your prayers. We do honour her…and when we honour people, even sports heros, we’re not worshipping, just honouring them. Jesus loves and values Mary. Perhaps this love that Jesus has for Mary may help you to feel more comfortable about her place in the Church. The Gospel shows that Jesus was never ashamed of his mother :)

[@villarrealmarta6103]

Jet Paronable the difference between me praying for you and Mary praying for you, is that she is gone now from this earth and doesn’t hear the prayers of saints. No person in Heaven can look down or hear you and me except God. Mary isn’t Jesus’ mother anymore either. Just as when I am in Heaven I won’t be my wife’s husband and she won’t be my wife. Those are earthly roles which don’t exist in Heaven. Your mention about sports athletes I’m also very skeptical about, because I see them being worshipped every day. Men love to put them on a pedestal and wear their memorabilia regardless of who they are and how they live their lives. Hero worship is at large.

[@villarrealmarta6103]

Jet Paronable actually if you read Matthew 12 Jesus did speak against Mary and his brothers who needed to be reminded of what Jesus came for. Here it is: While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers STOOD OUTSIDE, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.” 48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

[@jetparonable5667]

Villarreal Marta hi can you expand more on this passage, does Christ refute his mother? Yes, Christ came to serve radically God's mercy but he didn't come to shame. Mary was human just like the apostles

[@jetparonable5667]

Villarreal Marta agreed the sports world today can lead to idolatry. To explain better, there are statues and memorials of the fallen, presidents, and etc. we honor what they've done and their lives.

[@hfrt29]

Thank you so much because there's a lot of things online that are lies

[@DavidNicholson101]

Whenever His earthly mother came up during His teachings, He was always quick to point elsewhere and take the focus off of her. Why didn’t Jesus ever elevate His earthly mother if she was so important to the plan of salvation?

[@adarshbabu558]

For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus... 1 timothy 2:5

[@bitigos]

That is true. But does that me that you are not a mediator as well, when interceding for someone?

[@NCSiebertdesign]

@@bitigos One of the definition of meditate means to reconcile. So we cannot go to God by ourselves therefore it is only through Jesus, we are reconciled with God. So how can we meditate others to God by our behalf, when it is Jesus that does on behalf for us? We can pray for each other but we can't meditate as is it impossible for us (our behalf) to reconcile others to God alone. Hope I make sense?

[@rosemarymorin6702]

Thank you Jesus!!!!!!! you must have heard me ,I can't find the comment about me being wrong about that they pray in Mary's name or whatever but they do ask for her to pray for them. A scripture just came to my phone because I get daily scriptures and John 16:24 came out . Oh my goodness it says that no one has prayed in his name. You have to read the scripture by yourself to yourself and it will be more correct wordage. Thank you Jesus I know you hear me because I do call out your name and I asked you for your intercession always thank you very Amen!!!!!! I hope this helps everyone who wants to know, but as I usually say it's best to read the whole chapter.

[@amadisima8145]

Rose Mary Morin “When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.” ‭‭John‬ ‭19:26-27‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Jesus asked only one of his disciples to look after his mother. Don’t you want to be that special disciple? I know I do. To care for and be cared for the Mother of God. Now, let me ask you this: Who is Mary? The mother of Jesus isn’t? Who is Jesus? God. Therefore, Mary is the Mother of God. Don’t underestimate the love that God himself has for his own mother. Pray about it and you might be surprised at the answer the Holy Spirit gives you. Take off your Protestant hat before praying, just pray with a humble heart. I know I did this as an evangelical because I couldn’t reconcile the pure love that I saw some catholics had for Jesus and I saw that they also loved (not worshipped) the Virgin Mary. I prayed so hard about it and the very next day God showed me those verses above and I understood in my heart that Jesus always intended for one part of his church to love Mary. I want to have the fullness of Jesus so I will take the mother of God i to my own hone just like the disciple that Jesus loved. God bless you 🙏🏾❤️🌈

[@rosemarymorin6702]

@@amadisima8145 LOL I am not a Protestant but an ex Catholic the only thing I have now is the relationship with Jesus Christ one of his disciples all I want is to know the word each and every day and only that from the word Jesus Christ himself, God, the Holy Spirit that is what I believe in Jesus name amen peace be with you all

[@Radtrad_strada]

You Protestant heretics are the reason why we Catholics have the 5 first saturdays devotion as our Lord asked Sister Lucia to observe. That devotion is made for you to save your soul from eternal damnation. You do not disrespect the Mother of Our Lord Jesus and get away with it. God Bless you and im praying for your conversions.

[@rosemarymorin6702]

@@Radtrad_strada 💖✌🙏🙏🙏

[@rosemarymorin6702]

@@amadisima8145 💖✌🙏 God is spirit always has been always will be since before the beginning of time.. before Mary, but yes the spirit hovered over Mary so that Jesus could be born in the flesh. In Jesus name. Amen

[@vishalkurien1982]

Since scripture was asked :- Luke 1:48 is the reason why we see Addressing Blessed Mary as rightly appropriate. And Luke 19:26 is where usually the Mother of all attribute in Blessed Mary is taken. Now what is the mistake in Praying "with" (not 'TO') Saints and Blessed Mary ? As Church teachings haven't claimed Blessed Mary or the Saints as the Redeemer. In Luke 1:47 It is rightly claimed -" God my Savior". So what really is the objection? The premise of the Title here is wrong. As it includes a certain degree of compulsion. Now the Sculptures in the Church - that is no God, but an aesthetic appeal created by artists. All our senses are engaged when entering the premises and you immerse yourself into the service. How is all this wrong? If it is wrong , are you not pushing Jesus into a legalistic platform?

[@unknowntexan4570]

Does it not say that through the seed of Abraham all the nations will be blessed? If God called every believer blessed, what is Mary? Jesus himself rebuked the term when one said that Mary was blessed. "No blessed are those who do the will of my Father in heaven."

[@vishalkurien1982]

Greetings @@unknowntexan4570 , I think we can go around with theological perspectives and still end up not getting the picture. Instead of going back and forth with Blessed Mary, number of Baptism's etc focus on the crucifixion and what it's intention was. That will help us turn-away from secondary matters. Take care. God be with you.

[@biblealone9201]

And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Matthew 16:18 Notice that Jesus said 'church' (singular), and not 'churches' (multiple) in that verse. Do you believe that Jesus Christ founded only one Church and promised that the gates of hell will not prevail against it, meaning that it will last forever? If you answered 'no' then you are firmly entrenched in John 6:66 simply because you do not believe He who said it. "Amen, amen, I say to you, he who enters not by the door to the sheepfold, but climbs up another way, is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is shepherd of the sheep." John 10:1-2 The sheepfold represents His Church. Are you in the sheepfold, the one Church that He founded? Or did you 'climb up another way' by entering a church founded by a mere human person? Do you believe what Jesus said in those two verses? "I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word, that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and thou in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me." John 17:20-23 What part of the word 'one' is simply not understood by so many? Do you agree that there is only ONE true Church that Jesus Christ founded? "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters." Luke 11:23 Are you 'gathered' into the one Church that Jesus founded? Or are you scattered among the other 40,000+ sects not founded by God that call themselves Christian? Those who do not follow His words, 'that they may be one' are those that scatter. Aren't those who left Him in John 6:66, scatterers? "Jesus said to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father, but by me." John 14:6 Do you believe Him when He said, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life'? Do you believe that He is the truth? If so, why are you not in His Church? "You search the Scriptures, because in them you think that you have life everlasting. And it is they that bear witness to Me, yet you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life." John 5:39-40 You come to Him by entering His one Church, the only Church with God given authority to speak in the behalf of God Himself. . "So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever." John 6:53-58 Those within His Church know Him because He is really present in the Holy Eucharist which is not a symbol by any means. Anywhere in the above text, is there even a hint of a symbolic gesture? Aren't those who eat what they are taught is merely a symbol of the real Body of Christ akin to those fathers who ate of the symbol and died? Aren't they subject to become a member of Club666? "And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Advocate to dwell with you forever, the Spirit of Truth WHOM THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE, BECAUSE IT NEITHER SEES HIM NOR KNOWS HIM." John 14:16-17 Who are those who are called 'the World'? They are those who refuse to believe what He said and are therefore members of Club666. "He who does not love me does not keep my words; and the word which you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. These things I have spoken to you, while I am still with you. But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you." John 14:24-26 The first part of the first sentence sounds remarkably like John 6:66 where some of His disciples would not keep His words either and ended up walking away from Him. Would not you agree? I would say that these verses reinforce John 6:66 by adding the words 'He who does not love me'. "But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness to me; and you also are witnesses, because you have been with me from the beginning." John 15:26 Are you truly witnesses to ALL of what Jesus had to say to us or do you reject some of it? If you reject 'some of it' then you are truly entrenched in Club666. "I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you." John 16:12-15 Does the 'Spirit of Truth' really dwell in your sect? If you believe He does, then how can you explain the differences in supposed truths in over 40,000 different sects? "But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother. And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican." Matthew 18:15-17 Which Church, His Church which has all truth or those human person founded sects which only have some of it? "And other sheep I have that are not of this fold. Them also I must bring, and they shall hear My voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd." John 10:16 That one verse expresses the theme of this entire page. Are you one of the sheep who are not of His fold? Jesus is pleading to us by saying I MUST BRING His 'other sheep' to His ONE FOLD and ONE SHEPHERD. Those who are not in His ONE FOLD are not listening to Him and so are firmly entrenched in the 666 Club. "Jesus said to the twelve, "Do you also wish to go away?" Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life;" John 6:67-68 Do those verses say it all to you??? If so then we all must belong to the ONE FOLD with one Shepherd and have eternal life, or be forever a member of Club 666. The choice is yours!💋

[@mcsmith7692]

Let the man who has never asked his mother to intercede for him with his own father answer the question! Have you ever wondered why you do not "pray" (to use your term) the Virgin Mary ? Have you ever considered that it is beyond the ignominy of your human intelligent to answer the question correctly given the incompatibility of your mind in your current state of sin compared to the omniscience of divine and perfect intelligence ? Has it ever occurred to you that the reason that you do not worship the Mother, Daughter, and Spouse of God is because she asked the Eternal Father that she not overshadow your worship and praise of her Most Loving and Divine Son, our Redeemer and Judge? And did you not contemplate that this most favored creation of God, who provided you with God Himself through her, might have been been someone or something so profound to your understanding that only those gifted with the Holy Spirit might begin to understand her ? The Eternal Father, Holy Spirit, and Incarnate Word desire that you embrace Her as His most perfect creation from whom you should model your own life in your love and suffering! Instead, you would rather debate her in the most simplistic and humanistic of terms! ___ "My dearest daughter, how far removed is worldly wisdom from the admirable operations of the divine power in these sacraments of the Incarnation of the divine Word in my womb! Flesh and blood cannot reach them, and not the angels and seraphim, though they be of the highest; nor can they know mysteries so deeply hidden and so far above the ordinary course of grace. Praise thou, my beloved, the Lord for them with incessant love and thankfulness. Be thou not any longer slow in understanding the greatness of his divine love and his readiness to benefit his friends and dear ones, whom He desires to elevate from the dust and enrich in diverse manners. As soon as thou hast penetrated into this truth, it will oblige thee to thank Him and incite thee to undertake the great things, that become a most faithful daughter and spouse. And in order that thou mayest dispose thyself and be inspired so much the more, I remind thee, that the Lord often says these same words to his chosen ones: “Revertere, revertere, ut intueamur te.” For He derives just as great pleasure from their deeds, as when a father rejoices in his beloved and well-behaved son, whom he looks upon many times with great affection; or as an artist, when he beholds with pride the perfect works of his hands; or as a king, who inspects the rich city, which he has added to his dominions; or as one, who is pleased with his much beloved friend. There is only this difference: the Most High finds incomparably more delight than all these in the souls, which He has chosen for his blessings; and in proportion as they dispose themselves and advance in virtue, the Lord also multiplies his favors and benefits. If the mortals, that attain to the light of faith, would enter into this truth, they would, merely on account of this complacence of the Almighty in their good deeds, not only preserve themselves from sin, but they would zealously engage in great works until death and eagerly show their loving servitude to Him, who is so liberal in rewarding, and so generous in his favors. When, on this eighth day which thou hast described, the Lord in heaven spoke to me these words: “Revertere, revertere,” asking me to turn toward Him and allow the celestial spirits to look upon me; I was made aware, that the pleasure, which his divine Majesty derived in beholding me, by itself exceeded all the delight and complacency, which He ever derived from all the most saintly souls in the height of their sanctity. In his gracious condescension He was more pleased in me than in all the Apostles, Martyrs, Confessors, Virgins and all the rest of the saints. And this pleasure and complacency of the Most High overflowed and enriched my spirit with such an influx of grace and participation of the Divinity, that thou canst neither understand nor explain it as long as thou art in the mortal flesh. But I tell thee of this hidden mystery, in order that thou mayest bless its Author, and that, while yet thy exile from the fatherland continues, thou dispose and exert thyself in my place and name to extend and reach out thy hands to great things (Prov, 31, 19). Give to the Lord the satisfaction expected of thee, and strive after it, thus earning his blessings and soliciting them for thyself and thy neighbor with perfect charity."

[@dwightgatchalianjr.499]

Indeed

[@urbanego621]

I was just like you.I don't belong to any church now. I am free.Believe only bible and Jesus .I have read through the bible and wrote it down myself.See for yourself.I will defend good in everything . "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" -John 8:32 drive.google.com/file/d/1YjNSKqaBGcQsXe8gyhYcXeQRGPZjnFJ_/view?usp=sharing

[@gmg9859]

Pray to only to GOD. There no intermediaries - praying to an intermediary is idolatrous.

[@nelsonfernandes5729]

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[@easysewing4780]

one afternoon, it comes my thought why do people including mary to their prayer. in that same night I dreamed that there were two processions on a mountain uphill to God and mary but there are lots of people processioning to mary but the backround and the color u can see was black and it's lifeless and scary. And suddenly I went to the procession to God but no one in there Only God. floating in the mountain God face lightining. and u will feel in Peace. and perfect Joy and God's Almighty his long white dress in there's an understanding like humbleness and purity and you could feel very peaceful.

[@gregnorthway3814]

So why do so many Christians ask others to pray for them? Scripture tells us to do so yet that is not idolatry. A righteous person has very powerful prayers. When Mary's Immaculate Heart Triumphs I pray you all give her the love, respect, honor, devotion but not worship that she deserves. God wills it to be so. If you hold ill will towards Mary you side with Satan so be careful. Imitate Jesus and give her the love, honor, respect, and devotion he gave to her without worshipping her. Try as hard as you can and you will never be able to love the Blessed Virgin Mary more than Jesus.

[@TriciaRP]

@@gregnorthway3814 she IS NO LONGER A VIRGIN She had intercourse with Joseph and had other children....you all are SOLD a false DOCTRINE and GOSPEL. Good luck...with Purgatory

[@natashathomas1384]

@@gregnorthway3814 Yes, Trisha is right- Mary was a virgin when the angel came to her with news that she was chosen to bring Jesus into the world, but after that she had other children with Joseph. She didn't remain a virgin all her life or anything. Read Matthew 1:24-25. God bless!

[@davethesid8960]

Praying to Mary, the saints or even to your friend, which is, in fact, just asking them to pray for you (intercession) does in no way violate Christ's unique mediatorship. He is the one who wants us, His mysterious body, the Church (militant, penitent, triumphant) to do everything in communion, and that includes prayer. Also, we don't need to doesn't mean we can't, however, we do need to in order to be able to live out our life, all things in communion as said above. What about Rev 8:3-4? Btw, here are some verses supporting the doctrine of Purgatory: Mt 5:25-26, 12:32, 1Cor 3:11-15, Rev 21:27, 1Pet 3:19, 2Macc 12:39-46,

[@markanthony4504]

Nicely done guys!!

[@cynthiax56]

Too bad it isn't true. Mary haseverything to do with Jesus. Protestantism has ZERO to do with Jesus. She is in the bible and so is intercessory prayer. Protestants skip over vast amounts of scriptures.

[@joanaudreydomosmog2167]

I’m a Catholic, and I’m not offended at all. 🤍 and I think my friends won’t too. Sharing here, I won’t be talking points here but it just so much more to us, I hope you would hear our side of story too. All the love, and may God bless us all. 🤗

[@2Timothy3END]

Seek truths Joan, my sister in the Lord. In the last few hundred years of our 6-7 thousand years of Biblical history has had this (above teaching) and other teachings come into power adding new ways to God and new religions. If you have a good Biblical understanding of the basic Bible you must ask yourself where in all scriptures did Jesus or any other Bible story/letter or prophecy talk about praying to anyone other than God through Christ our Lord and Savior. You will like other religions need to seek other writings. Other writings that some human added as he or she gained some spiritual knowledge thus adding to what has been told and taught to us in the Bible. Please, research what year was it decided that Mother Mary was also born sinless so she could bare Jesus. Not in the Bible either. Sorry for adding as you say "Talking points" but what if you get before God at judgement day and are told you were wrong, or worse yet Matthew 7:21-23. Respectfully Joan even if my pastor teaches something new to my ears I research it ,2 Timothy 2. Prayed for us both to always get aid from the Holy Spirit in seeking truths.

[@joanaudreydomosmog2167]

@@2Timothy3ENDHi! Can we all seek the truths 🤍 thank you for sharing, however those too facts I have made my research before coming home. (before coming to the Catholic Church) I have my own doubts to the teachings and prayed for the answers. And it is a journey I must say, but God can reveal to anyone who seeks truths. He will never forsake the ones who asks. God himself is mysterious in every ways, like how Mary did birth by Holy Spirit? But as we are all Christians, He did not left us empty handed. He left His spirit, His words and most especially Himself -Church. About the talking points. I would love to share my thoughts too, but I chose to do it in safe space. This comment section is too shallow. And before everything else, I seek for the person and relationship first, asking myself “What would Jesus do.” it’s important to preach but I prefer to do it with love, as it’s the essence of what we do. Thank you (I would love to know your name) brother/sister in Christ! Let’s share Christ’s love and mercy to everyone 🤍😇

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

@@joanaudreydomosmog2167 May God bless us and honour the sincerity of our faith, as best we know it. I have looked into Catholicism a great deal and still go to Mass. I'm blessed to worship God w/ Catholics. I really gave the doctrines a full and open chance. I've watched a number of Catholic/protestant debates. I can't agree w/ a number of doctrines. We are family as Christians though. It hurts my heart to see Christians trying to cancel each other out because of doctrinal differences.

[@barbwellman6686]

​@@2Timothy3END You and I are not born at enmity with Satan. We must be regenerated through Baptism with water and the Holy Spirit. However in Genesis 3:15, God told Satan that a woman would be born at enmity with him and she would deliver a male Child Who would crush his head as he wounded His Heel. The Trinity predestined, saved and created one special female full of Grace, who would having the fullness of virtues necessary to be at enmity with Satan at her conception. Genesis 3:15 "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His Heel.” This pregnant "woman" reappears in Revelation, the crowned Mother of God: Rev 12: "17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring-those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus."

[@jenniferevans2046]

@@barbwellman6686 The woman you refer to is not Mary, it is Israel, the chosen people of God and that prophecy has been exactly fulfilled. It is through the Israelites, the Jews, His chosen people, that Jesus came into our world. The other woman mentioned is not Mary either. Read revelation. The adoration of Mary through the years has increased to the point that she is now considered the new Eve, the new Ark, Queen of Heaven etc., The Queen of Heaven was a pagan goddess mentioned in the bible. The Ark isn’t her womb, it is Jesus Christ Himself. These little deviations over the years made by various popes, has elevated Mary to a position equal to God in many ways, and it is blatant idolatry.

[@simmy6495]

John 14:26 but the helper,the holy spirit whom God will send in my name will come teach you all things and bring remembrance all I said. Psalms 103:20-21 bless the Lord all you his angels,that excell strength in doing his commandments hearkening to the voice of his words. Bless the Lord,all his host ministers of his that do his will. Jeremiah 23:29 is my word not like fire? Is it not like a hammer that breaks stones to pieces. Proverbs 3:5 trust in the Lord will all your heart,do not rely in your own understanding. Psalms 121:1-2 &5&7&8 I lift up my eyes to the hills,where does my help come from? My help comes from the LORD who made the heaven and earth. 5. The LORD is your keeper,the Lord is your shade on your right hand. 7. The LORD will keep you from all evil,he will keep your life. 8. The LORD will keep your going out and your coming in from this time forth and for evermore. Psalms 91 :9-12 Because you have made the Lord your refuge, the Most high your habitation, no evil shall befall you no scourge come near your tent. For he will give his angels charge of you to guard you in all your ways. On their hands they will bear you up,lest you dash your foot against a stone. Psalms 91:15 when he calls to me ,I will answer him,I will be with him in trouble and I will rescue him and honour him. Colossians 2:9-10 in him the whole fullness of diety dwells bodily,and you have come to fullness of life in him ,who is head of all rule and authority. 1Timothy 2:5 for there is one God,and there is one meditator between God and men, the man christ jesus

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

I can't find any scriptures like that about our help coming from Mary, or Paul or Peter, or for them to intercede for us. Nevertheless, those doctrines run very deep w/ Catholics.

[@Kevin-ow4et]

If you're asking Mary to pray for you, this means you're praying to Mary.

[@rainxp1318]

@@lonelyberg1808 the point flew over your head

[@nelsonfernandes5729]

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[@easysewing4780]

one afternoon, it comes my thought why do people including mary to their prayer. in that same night I dreamed that there were two processions on a mountain uphill to God and mary but there are lots of people processioning to mary but the backround and the color u can see was black and it's lifeless and scary. And suddenly I went to the procession to God but no one in there Only God. floating in the mountain God face lightining. and u will feel in Peace. and perfect Joy and God's Almighty his long white dress in there's an understanding like humbleness and purity and you could feel very peaceful.

[@loremaster234]

Not the same thing. You don’t ask your friend in the Spirit, or across dimensions, you walk up to them. There is no biblical evidence to support prayer to anyone other than Christ; and honestly I doubt that Mary, after having to watch her son die horribly, would be too happy about people praying to her rather than her Lord after what He went through for us. I love Mary, but she’s a woman, a mortal woman. Peace be with you in Jesus name. Amen.

[@josueinhan8436]

And this is also wrong. Period.

[@joshcooper7]

do you think you can be a christian without believing in the trinity ?

[@rosemarymorin6702]

Gary Cooper I don't believe that you can if you believe in Jesus as ( GODS way ) , is JESUS , (THE WORD , the truth )and the HOLY SPIRIT ( is the life given to us. God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit are all 3 in ONE. This is the understanding given to me. May God give you the understanding you need to follow him. peace and love to all ♡♡♡♡

[@joshcooper7]

i just dont buy the trinity but i class myself as a Christian. God bless you anyway :)

[@rosemarymorin6702]

Gary Cooper I get where your coming from I struggled FOR years . God bless in your search peace and love to all.!!!!

[@rosemarymorin6702]

Sometimes it's hard to understand scripture especially if the Holy Bible is not even being picked up to be read. How can the Light be with or in us if the Bible isn't even opened to let The Word, Jesus Christ speak. When I was a little girl I sang these songs ( THIS LITTLE LIGHT OF MINE , I'M GONNA LET IT SHINE) and ( HE'S GOT THE WHOLE WORLD IN HIS HANDS!!!!! I GUESS THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS TO COME AS LITTLE CHILDREN , EVEN IF YOUR GROWN. GOD BLESS US ALL. PEACE AND LOVE ♡♡♡♡ TO ALL!!!!

[@everlastthomas3549]

Gary Cooper It's so clear in the bible the Jesus is God Zechariah 12:10, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God i.e. FATHER AND SON. Jesus sends the Spirit and also Father sends the Spirit John chapters 14 and 16.

[@rlrett1]

"O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can come only through thy hands, our salvation depends on thee." St. Bernardine of Siena If this is not worship nothing is!

[@mpress469]

Maybe Saint Bernardine knew something we didn't know.

[@rlrett1]

@M Press no she didn't know the gospel and I doubt she was saved!

[@mpress469]

@Richard Rettenmaier But... what if she did and was sainted for it?

[@rlrett1]

@M Press you don't get Sainte for what you did, you become a Saint because of what Christ did!

[@jojosephoho]

Thank you for bringing up this quote from St. Bernardine of Siena and expressing your concerns about it. It's important to discuss these matters openly and to seek a deeper understanding of our faith practices and expressions. Let me clarify the Catholic perspective on Mary and the nature of the devotion given to her, particularly in light of the quote you've mentioned. Firstly, it's essential to understand the distinction the Catholic Church makes between worship (latria), which is due to God alone, and veneration (dulia), which is given to the saints. Mary is given the highest level of veneration, called hyperdulia, due to her unique role as the Mother of God (Theotokos), but this is not equivalent to the worship that is reserved for God. The language used by St. Bernardine of Siena and other saints in their devotional expressions can sometimes seem hyperbolic or excessive when viewed without the context of this theological distinction. These expressions of deep love and veneration for Mary and the saints are rooted in their exemplary faith and closeness to God, which inspire us to follow their example in our own journey toward holiness. When St. Bernardine of Siena refers to Mary as the "dispenser of all graces," it's important to understand this in the context of Catholic teaching on Mary's unique cooperation in the work of salvation. The Church teaches that Mary, by her "fiat" (her yes to God's will at the Annunciation), played a unique and unrepeatable role in the history of salvation. This does not mean that grace originates from Mary, but rather that she is a unique instrument through which God chose to bring grace into the world, most notably through giving birth to Jesus Christ, who is the source of all grace. The phrase "the grace of salvation can come only through thy hands" reflects a deep theological reflection on Mary's role in salvation history, not a literal assertion that Mary is the source of salvation. Salvation comes from Christ alone, but Mary's role as Mother of God and her exemplary faith make her a powerful intercessor for us in heaven. The Church encourages devotion to Mary because her life points us to Jesus, and her intercessions are believed to be effective because of her close relationship with her Son. Therefore, when Catholics express devotion to Mary or ask for her intercession, it is not an act of worship but an acknowledgment of her unique role in the economy of salvation and her exemplary faith. It is always understood that Mary, like all saints, points us towards God and helps us to grow closer to Him. The Catholic Church encourages the faithful to approach Mary and the saints with the understanding that all devotion ultimately leads to God, who is the source of all grace and mercy. The saints, and Mary in particular, are seen as models of faith and intercessors who can pray for us, much like we ask our friends and family to pray for us. This practice enriches our spiritual lives by reminding us of the great cloud of witnesses who have gone before us and encouraging us to live lives of holiness and devotion.

[@thomasdonohue1833]

If Mary was a sinner how could God manifest himself in her womb?

[@fellowshipwithme9133]

46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother(B) and brothers(C) stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.” 48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven(D) is my brother and sister and mother.”

[@koshtatube2246]

where can i find it?

[@loremaster234]

Matthew 12:46-50

[@pcola4594]

Weird that someone who quotes scriptures so readily would disregard the first 4 verses of Revelation 8. The saints definitely pray for us.

[@mangispangi]

Are you refering to "1. When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them. 3 Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of the saints, on the golden altar in front of the throne. 4 The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel’s hand." Here is a prayer that I was given to pray to Mary: Rejoice, goodwill of God to us sinners. Rejoice, strong defender of those who repent before God for their sins. Rejoice, Adam's call to the fallen. Rejoice, redemption of Eve's tears. Rejoice, you who cleanse us from the defilement of sin. Rejoice, bath, who washes our minds. Rejoice, you who gave birth to the Redeemer, Who as a gift cleanses our iniquities. Rejoice, most wonderful one, the reconciliation of all to God. Rejoice, bridge, who truly passes us from death to life. Rejoice, you who saved the world from the flood of sin. Rejoice, heavenly ladder, on which the Lord has come down to us. Rejoice, mediator of all to God. Does this sound right? "you who cleanse us from the defilement os sin"? Mary cleansed us? "Mediator of all to God"? Really? does this sound like simply asking Mary to pray for us??? What does idolatry look like if not this? Maybe I am too much of a sinner to see the truth. But i cannot see how the Gospel of Our Lord depends on us praying to Mary? Is that what the Apostoles taught? Are the Catholic and Orthodox churches holier than the Apostoles? Can anyone clarify this?

[@pcola4594]

@@mangispangi Well. Yes it does right. Where did Jesus come from? Who birthed him? Who nursed him? Who raised him? Who taught him to speak and to walk and how to feed himself? It was through Mary that came God chose yo come into this world. It was through Mary that the entire world was saved. It was through Mary that the lamb entered the world to take away the sins of the world. God could have saved the world anyway that he wanted to, if it was his will to just forgive he could have done that. Instead he chose Mary. Nothing in particular unique to Mary, other than she was the chosen one to which Christ himself would be born and raised to. A plan established from God for all time. God chose Mary. As to idolotry, perhaps a refresher of the wedding at Cana is in hand. The house servants looked to Mary, she pleads with Jesus to intervene, his response is it is not yet his time. This is Christ Jesus telling Mary no, he will do nothing, it is not yet his time. Mary’s response? Do as he says. Christ then went on to turn 180 gallons of water into wine. Not just wine but the best wine ever tasted. If this isn’t an example of the power of Mary’s intercession, I don’t know what else could be. Look to the mother and she will point to the Son. Cherry picking a line out of context and then scrutinizing it is not a real strong analysis method.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

@@pcola4594 Hmm, Do as he says. That's the power of Mary's intercession now. That's a stretch beyond cherry picking. Definitely out of context as intercession. It was a declaration to a 3rd party.

[@pcola4594]

@@saintejeannedarc9460 That is her power according to who? According to you? According to scripture? Tell me, where did scripture come from? Who ratified the books as either apart of or separate from the cannon? Belief alone won’t get you there, and neither will scripture alone. For that point Mary alone can’t get you there either. It requires a substantial effort on the part of the sinner to work, see St Paul speaking in Philippians 2:12. As to Mary’s intercession in particular here. Not cherry picking at all. Read the first part of John 2, they ran out of wine, Mary came to him, The Christ, the God-Man himself, her son, and begged his help. Christ responds with “Woman, why does this concern us? My hour has not yet come.” And so Christ goes from non-concerned and perhaps even antagonistic to the idea of him personally intervening, to him transmuting 180 gallons of water into wine. What happened? What changed? That’s right, Mary. If you think that scripture records every line of every conversation you should reread your Bible, but based upon the evidence that is recorded, Mary is the only thing that happened. A woman came before her son begging for his help, the son capitulated to his mother and so set off the multitude of miracles Christ performed during his earthly ministry.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

@@pcola4594 It's her power according to you.

[@rbnmnt3341]

You forgot Philippians 4:6-7 that says that in all prayer and supplication make our request known to God. Ephesians 5:20 says "giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ". And Of course there is Matthew 6 where Jesus says pray TO THE FATHER. There is nothing in scripture where God says pray to Mary or where Jesus said pray to his mother. More important is Jesus never said that the way to him is through his mother.

[@porkc78nj19]

t is most significant here to note that “Adam” and “Eve” are revealed simply as “the man” and “the woman” before the woman’s name was changed to “Eve” (Hebrew, “mother of the living”) after the Fall (see Gen. 2:21ff). When we then look at the New Covenant, Jesus is explicitly referred to as the “last Adam,” or the “New Adam” in 1 Cor. 15:45. And Jesus himself indicates that Mary is the prophetic “woman” or “New Eve” of Genesis 3:15 when he refers to his mother as “woman” in John 2:4 and 19:26. Moreover, St. John refers to Mary as “woman” eight times in Revelation 12. As the first Eve brought death to all of her children through disobedience and heeding the words of the ancient serpent, the devil, the “New Eve” of Revelation 12 brings life and salvation to all of her children through her obedience. The same “serpent” who deceived the original woman of Genesis is revealed, in Revelation 12, to fail in his attempt to overcome this new woman. The New Eve overcomes the serpent, and as a result, “the serpent is angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God, and bear testimony to Jesus” (Rev. 12:17). If Mary is the New Eve and New Testament fulfillments are always more glorious than their Old Testament antecedents, it would be unthinkable for Mary to be conceived in sin. If she were, she would be inferior to Eve, who was created in a perfect state, free from all sin.

[@madelinejaneski9750]

Why would it be okay to ask people on earth to pray for us but not the dead? What does it mean to be dead? Fellow Christians and saints are granted eternal life! The saints are very much alive and united with Christ.

[@garmond401]

Mary is not omnipresent to hear millions of prayers simultaneously. Only God can do that.

[@zylershaw25]

amen

[@Radtrad_strada]

You Protestant heretics are the reason why we Catholics have the 5 first saturdays devotion as our Lord asked Sister Lucia of Fatima to observe. That devotion is made for you to save your soul from eternal damnation. You do not disrespect the Mother of Our Lord Jesus and get away with it. God Bless you and im praying for your conversions.

[@joahim280]

Through gods will she can hear.

[@gamingwithtanjiroplaysgame7956]

HA SHE CANT BE EVERYWHERE BECAUSE god is already everywhere and hearing everyone prayers like infinity times 😄😄

[@hopelessnostalgic8444]

@@joahim280LMFAOO WHAT? Where is the Scripture to support to this? Y’all need to stop making stuff up it’s ridiculous now.

[@guardianangel3425]

Protestants may not ask for her intercession(your loss though), but please give her the love and respect she deserves. If you are capable of loving your enemies as commanded by our Lord, why not the Blessed Mother? If you can not love our Lord's Mother because your afraid you might overdo it, just give her respect please.

[@NinaR478]

Hey! I was just curious on what verses have told us that Mary intercedes for us?

[@mtello98]

@@NinaR478 That is a great question! Let’s take a look… Normally I would of taken a few scriptures off the top of my head which speak of Our Lady interceding for God’s people but I want to applaud this video for pointing one of them out already! They quote Our Lady in the book of John by saying “do whatever he tells you.” Any learned Christian here would know that this is coming from the wedding at Cana. Now, let’s back up a few verses and read how Our Lady contributed to Christ’s first public miracle. Our Lady says: “they have no wine.” She has realized a need of the people, and greatly desires to bring it to her son. We both agree, Mary is not divine… But she knows her son is😄 (this is key BTW) Christ then responds with: “Oh woman, what have you to do with me? My hour has not yet come.” So Christ here seems to be rebuking Mary. Which in all fairness is not a bad interpretation of that verse. But Our Lady instead of staying quiet and keeping to herself, tells the servants will full confidence, “do whatever he tells you.” Our Lady knew that her son would provide what she had asked for! This, and many other scriptures can point to Our Lady’s importance. Let’s talk about “mediator” really quick. Protestants tend to use mediator and intercesor interchangeably when trying to refute Catholic teaching. Unfortunately this is a problem because the biblical definition of mediator is the one who pays all debts. Sound familiar? It’s Jesus, plain and simple! There is no other mediator between God and man. Now let us make the distinction for intercession. What Our Lady does at the wedding at Cana is the very definition of intercession. In other words. Besides Jesus, no one is closer to God than Mary. She brings our supplications to her son not because she is divine and a goddess, but because he is HER SON! We don’t have that kind of relationship with him! We can strive to all we want, but unless we want the Holy Spirit to make us the God Bearer, and have to worry about our son being persecuted, and having that worry come to fruition at the cross… let’s just remember the hard part for Jesus and Mary is over! All we have to do as Christians is repent believe and be baptized. Seems like an easy choice to make wouldn’t you agree? Mary brings us Christ incarnate. Therefore Mary brings us Christ in the most perfect way. Union with Mary, means union with Christ. It doesn’t get any easier than that. Hope this helps and answers your initial question and maybe answered a few others! God bless and have a great day!

[@slayyy6483]

Mary is important to us but we will not pray to her. No ones gets to the father except through Jesus

[@guardianangel3425]

@@slayyy6483 You can pray to God directly, but beware he only hears the prayers of the righteous. Are you righteous enough? If not, ask for prayers from righteous people you know. We Catholics ask for prayers from righteous people especially Mother Mary. Of course we also pray directly to God using the Lord's Prayer(Catholics call it the Our Father prayer). Proverbs 15:29: The LORD is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous. James 5:16: Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. Job 42:7-8: After the Lord had spoken these words to Job, the Lord said to Eliphaz mthe Temanite: “My anger burns against you and against your two friends, for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. 8 Now therefore take nseven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and ooffer up a burnt offering for yourselves. And my servant Job shall ppray for you, for I will accept his prayer not to deal with you according to your folly. For you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has.

[@slayyy6483]

@@guardianangel3425 i ask my mother to pray for me when I cannot because she is a wonderful respectful and loving Christian woman. I do not pray to her tho. No where in the Bible does it say to pray to Mary I’m sorry I’m just telling you that now. Yes Mary is an extremely important woman to us but we can’t pray to her because God has commanded that.

[@doechebag]

Amen

[@yolandalopez9647]

Mary appeared to the three children and told them to pray the rosary, true or false

[@jayjayg7585]

Can Jesus be born into original sin . He’s God, no way. Then Mary is immaculate conceived without original sin.

[@fredrolinners8903]

Then her mother had to be as well...and right on back.

[@caribaez5711]

The holy rosary is the most powerful weapon ever. It helps you combat the devil. No kidding! I hope you come to understand this. We are not praying Mary just because. We are asking Her for her intercession because Jesus gave her as our spiritual mother. The holy rosary is biblical and it can help you fight the enemy even in witchcraft. God is so good He gave us the holy rosary!!!! 🎉❤

[@user-nw1jt6js4l]

Hi Carol Baez You said the holy rosary is biblical please where can we find it in the Bible?

[@edybrown9402]

@caribaez5711 Hello 🙋🏽‍♂️ I pray you'll come to the understanding that we have only one Mediator - the Lord Jesus Christ. You can't prove that which you claim from Scripture.

[@kaleido9631]

If you can pray to Mary.... then does that not open you up to pray to other dead people? That's what has me skeptical of praying to anyone but God.

[@TriciaRP]

THEY pray to MANY DEAD SAINTS.... Necromancy PERIOD IT IS like the greeks have many gods.. They pray TO st. Joseph St. Louis St...this and that....each one for their Godly profession on earth whatever it was...... IGNORANT

[@edybrown9402]

The Bible is clear that Mary’s unique position as the mother of Jesus did not give her any more access to God than another believer in Christ is given. Therefore, Mary is not worthy of receiving prayers from Christians. Jesus addressed this in Luke 11 by emphasizing that it’s more blessed to be a follower of Christ than to be the mother of Christ.

[@edybrown9402]

In Luke 11, Jesus freed an afflicted man by driving out the demon that made him mute. Once Jesus cast the demon away, the man could speak again, and the watching crowd was amazed (Luke 11:14). Some of the crowd questioned Jesus, even suggesting Jesus was operating by power of Satan. As Jesus then started to preach to the crowd, a woman called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you!” (Luke 11:27). Jesus replied to her, ammending, not scolding, saying, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it” (Luke 11:28).

[@thomasdonohue1833]

So let me get this straight. This guy reads a Catholic Bible. He believes in a Catholic Trinity and he prays to a Catholic Jesus. I'm going to ask Mary to pray for you guys.

[@odysseybandsl667]

mary is dead man only jesus and Almighty god alives and among us

[@GlidingOne]

Jesus was Jewish

[@GlidingOne]

The Bible was Jewish and written by Jews…

[@ClipPerry]

Catholic Jesus? Jesus is the Lord of everyone.

[@kingmufasa8929]

Answer; No

[@porkc78nj19]

Scripture elsewhere speaks of the “the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven” and “the spirits of just men made perfect” (Heb. 12:23, emphasis added). Given their heavenly perfection in Jesus, which would include perfection in charity and thus concern for their brothers and sisters in Christ on earth (see 1 Cor. 2:12-26), we should not be surprised that Scripture presents these holy men and women of heaven bringing our prayers to Jesus the Lamb (Rev. 5:8), and that from the early Church onward Christians have asked the intercession of the saints who have gone before them to heaven. In this light, we see that the saints-as faithful disciples of Jesus-are his collaborators, not his competitors in interceding for us. Consequently, because Mary is the Mother of God and the disciple par excellence (see Luke 1:28, 38), we should not be surprised that she is our preeminent intercessor among the angels and saints.

[@fredrolinners8903]

1 Kings 8:38-39 whatever prayer...is made...then hear in heaven....for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men (NASB) Only God fully knows the hearts of all so only God is the proper recipient of prayer.

[@rr7firefly]

Can you pray to the Holy Spirit? Where is there a clear explanation of three persons in one God? Why would there be three, not one?

[@leopicollo1569]

I was catholic for 53 years , this never ever set right with me never, I finally left the catholic church and started reading the bible and found a lot of contradiction , I found a good bible teaching church my eyes are open , I want to say Catholics are good people but are asleep , all I can say to Catholics is please READ YOUR BIBLE LEARN if i did it you can too peace of the Lord Yashua be with you forever.

[@eddienguyen1884]

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[@ryanfoerster5778]

Leo Picollo Jesus didn’t start a “Bible Believing” Church. He started the Catholic Church

[@koolmckool7039]

@@ryanfoerster5778 He started the Christian church. The catholic one is a lie.

[@ryanfoerster5778]

Keith Petersen which church is the Christian church?

[@seigfredancay4963]

The French Reformer John Calvin " It cannot be denied that God in choosing and destining Mary to be the Mother of his Son, granted her the highest honor...Elizabeth called Mary Mother of the Lord, because the unity of the person in the two nature's of Christ was such that she could have said that the mortal man engendered in the womb of Mary was at the same time the ETERNAL God"( Calvin opera , corpus reformation, brainwaves-Berlin, 1863-1900, v.45. P. 348,45)

[@ciso5765]

Are we not ALL part of the ONE body of Christ???? Rom 8:38 says, "neither death shall separate us from Christ". So how can you say ONLY earthly beings can pray if we're all unified under Christ ONE body?? This video is actually unbiblical.

[@robg6410]

Kenny Mergil you could be one in christ but it doesn't mean you or mary are christ

[@andrefernandes765]

@Rob G ...Obviously! That's not what he is arguing.

[@robg6410]

ANDRE FERNANDES 1 month ago I don't even know what the issue was about lol

[@robg6410]

ANDRE FERNANDES God bless

[@joangnarlwode4176]

Christians have asked the Saints in Heaven to pray for us from the earliest days; as the Scriptures attest, we are surrounded by a cloud of witnesses, and we are to do prayers and intercessions daily. The Maccabbees prayed for the dead. Did Jesus lie to us and say the Holy Spirit would stay with us? Did he really let the vast majority of all Christians go wrong for 2000 years?

[@greenergrass4060]

We honestly dont need to . But then again, why ask fellow believers to pray for you, when you can go directly to Jesus instead?

[@flick1232]

Best answers

[@EM12S1]

Coz they’re pegans

[@38.jonathanphilip82]

Christians have asked the Saints in Heaven to pray for us from the earliest days; as the Scriptures attest, we are surrounded by a cloud of witnesses, and we are to do prayers and intercessions daily. The Maccabbees prayed for the dead. Did Jesus lie to us and say the Holy Spirit would stay with us? Did he really let the vast majority of all Christians go wrong for 2000 years?

[@crobeastness]

claiming mary is divine is a heresy. we would never do that. also, you can still need a savior and be sinless. he also hasn't done his homework if he thinks we started venerating her in 1854. the rosary came long before then

[@jdog5642]

Wrong! How can that be the official position of the Catholic Church if they have a few different official formal prayers addressing Mary directly, ie. The hail Mary prayer, hail holy queen, regina caeili. Praying the rosary comprises of 53 hail mary prayers and 6 Our Fathers. Not to mention all the prayers to all the different saints. I know this because I was raised in the Catholic church and often told in the confessional to say many hail Mary's in order to be absolved from my sins. How unbiblical is that. I was taught that I could work off my sins with prayers.