Should I crack my coin out of the graded slab? My Advice to you.

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Spegtacular

Spegtacular

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@adamjam9541
@adamjam9541 2 жыл бұрын
I do this for my kids even though they dabble there are trying to make their way in life. when I pass hopefully keeping them in slabs will make it easier to liquidate
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
When you pass, they’ll appreciate you in a way that’s unrecognizable to what you know of them right now… but you’ll never know about it. So is life..
@hc7760
@hc7760 2 жыл бұрын
Is it me or is the toning on the unslabbed is better? A little more red? But I’d still probably by the slabbed if they were the same price, unless I had to talk to a high pressured sales man
@letsgobrandon6439
@letsgobrandon6439 2 жыл бұрын
I always bust em out. Just cracked out a 1927 st gaudins in MS 64. They look so much better raw. As for modern bullion, I find it a silly waist of money to slab them. It offers no extra value and just about every coin is a MS 70 if you get it in front of the right person. I tried a little experiment with a ms70 ase to see how it would come back with repeated submissions. I sent it in 4 times. 3 ms69 and 1 ms70 even though it was originally a ms70. I collect metals and coins, not plastic and stickers. Free the coins!
@letsgobrandon6439
@letsgobrandon6439 2 жыл бұрын
@@electrochemical.army. I get that, some coins are valuable enough to slab. I've just always liked holding my coins, even without gloves if you can believe it. I wasn't always so against stabbing, but imho it has hurt the hobby. People put way to much value in the slab. I see so many beautiful coins unwanted because they have a details grade. Coins that if they were raw people would really want. But because some schmuck saw a few tiny hairlines and decided it was a cleaning it becomes unwanted. A absurd situation imo. Don't even get me started on those silly cac stickers. Although the cac stickers do kinda prove the slabbers suck at their job. Nobody trusts them so they send it off to be graded again.
@rogermetcalf37
@rogermetcalf37 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we dont all have that person to supply us with unmarked bullion so getting perfect bullion is hard
@rogermetcalf37
@rogermetcalf37 2 жыл бұрын
Its easier in a lot of cases to buy the proof version in high grade than the bullion version
@rickhicks6833
@rickhicks6833 2 жыл бұрын
You made a key statement, 'if they are the same price'. I'm new, but have only seen slabed being much more expensive.
@skullstaxx
@skullstaxx 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Sal, I jumped on that deal. Getting a perfect gold coin under spot, it was a no brainer. I typically would not buy a graded modern coin. Since it’s a perfect coin, I will NOT break it out of the slab. ☠️
@lukewebster1816
@lukewebster1816 2 жыл бұрын
As a relatively new collector (last five years), I don't really get into MS70 modern coins. I do, however, enjoy classic coins like mercury dimes, wheat cents, etc. I especially love filling up dansco coin albums; this makes up the bulk of my collection. When I only had the 1909-s vdb and 1922 plain holes left to fill in my lincoln cent album, I broke out my slabs to fill up those last two holes. I do keep the label from the slab, however, and I put it with the album.
@thingamujigger1585
@thingamujigger1585 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't have a Sigma precious metals identifier, BE VERY VERY CAREFUL buying a slabbed coin that you are not able to accurately measure and weigh. There are ALOT of fakes out there. Trust me. 😞
@danmckeever599
@danmckeever599 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that the buy/sell spread is tighter with a raw coin than with a stabbed. Sure the dealer will pay more for a stabbed than a raw... but he will sell for even more. So while the spread may be 3% for raw gold is probably closer to 5-10% slabbed.
@2is1gold
@2is1gold 2 жыл бұрын
The coin is a great choice. The deal was incredible. Beyond that, it’s subjective. All of us would have jumped on the deal whether there was extra potential for premium in a sale or not - it was $250 less than a raw Eagle - not all of us want the slab. For me, the fact that it was graded didn’t add anything. Over the 10 or 20 years I’ll have it, the awkward storage isn’t worth a bit of extra potential profit. Somebody else might already have slabs. It would be completely different for them. 🤜🤛
@EMan-cu5zo
@EMan-cu5zo 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The grading company has a good way to make money for just saying the coin looks nice and putting it in a slab and signing them.
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
The extra potential will always be worth the little space it’ll cause. It’s gold. You won’t hold thousands of ounces of it and so the space isn’t or shouldn’t be an issue. Do yourself a favor and get as much value out of the bullion and gold you have… just because it’s bullion doesn’t mean it’s only going to sell for spot. Gold is gold and silver is silver is a “yesterday” way of thinking. Good luck 👍
@2is1gold
@2is1gold 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spegtacular we definitely agree on the 'gold is gold' motto being outdated. I'll never keep common bullion in a slab, though. Cheers!
@633ohioc
@633ohioc 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I appreciate hearing your perspective on this issue. A great opinion to help new buyers.
@garyeckler2425
@garyeckler2425 2 жыл бұрын
I would leave it in the slab. I feel a purchaser would have greater confidence that the coin was genuine.
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
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@Crypt0fin
@Crypt0fin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm tempted to break out my older holder PCI graded Seated Dollar because I think it could grade higher. Plus PCI isn't one of the big two and I think if it were in a PCGS or NGC holder then it would be valued higher. This is another point you might have forgotten to make beside just feeling the coin itself or for the purposes of putting them into a raw collection book.
@silverstuff5976
@silverstuff5976 2 жыл бұрын
i did break out some PCGS slabs because i thought they under graded them, and i was right because when i got my coins back from 2 different graders, they came back 2-3 grades higher than on a pcgs slab. I ain't no professional coin grader but i could tell pcgs under graded my coins really bad it was very obvious even from a guy without grading experience.
@michaelcebula1975
@michaelcebula1975 2 жыл бұрын
Same price I'd definitely buy the slabs. To me, you know it's real.
@silvertrucker2172
@silvertrucker2172 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. I own slabs myself. Gotta be one I really like. I never take one out of an assay card either. Just figure if I ever sell or trade, it is the first line of verification.
@davenilson7063
@davenilson7063 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up an ICG ms70 1/10th 2005 gold eagle a couple months ago for $200 at my LCS when spot was about $1900. It was the same price as raw ones so I figured, why not? Upon close inspection there is 2 hairs on the coin. 1 on the obverse looks like a tiny dark eye lash and the 2nd on the reverse looks like transparent peach fuzz type hair. I've almost broken it out several times but haven't...yet.
@Crypt0fin
@Crypt0fin 2 жыл бұрын
Its ICG so I bet its really an MS68 or MS69 even without the lashes.
@kaboomwinn4026
@kaboomwinn4026 2 жыл бұрын
Like SpegTacular it not Hematic seal. So some small thing can slip right in over time.
@patrickmorrissey2271
@patrickmorrissey2271 2 жыл бұрын
Even some of my "anti-grading" friends have kind of come around on this... It does add value. I personally think there was a two-fold reasoning going on, and, the market demanded independent coin grading..... Now I know you have relationships with coin dealers, so you can't be shooting off your mouth about this kind of thing.... and to be honest, I have dealt with The Coin Guy, over the phone, and he was MORE THAN FAIR.... As far as I am concerned, I will do business with him anytime over the phone... Every time he sends me something, it's better than he represented it. So when I say this, I am not talking about him, or the other dealers you have relationships with.... But sadly, those guys are the exception, not the rule. Years ago, a local guy in the town I used to live in, sells me a gold eagle, insisting it is MS70 perfect, and that's why he "needs" to get his very very heavy premium on it... I didn't know any better, this was early in my coin journey... We all learn somehow. If you think learning is expensive, try ignorance... Joking. Don't try ignorance. Of course a year later, a friend says "take it back in to sell it, see what he says". Of course then he is telling me it's MS67 "at best", and he can only pay X, well under spot at the time... So this guy basically, at a time when spot was $400, was selling for $490, and buying for $310.... Not bad. Almost 25% each way. Heh heh! When I say "not bad", I mean, not bad for his wallet. For the customers? Not so good. But hey, f&^% the customer. So that's #1, I think "casual" or "semi-serious" coin collectors were getting REAL TIRED of always getting pushback about the condition of the coins..... So I think people like you & me, were really wanting some kind of 3rd party grading, to enter the marketplace, and end these arguments.... At least I was. So you have a coin there that says MS70. Well that kind of ends the discussion, doesn't it.... And as you correctly point out, it might not be ME selling these... At the inevitable Estate Selloff, my sister will be selling these, and I am sure she will get better value for coins in slabs.... She could do the whole thing online and get fair value... Send them digital pictures of what you have, they'll make you an offer.... #2, I think, the rise of EBay, and online sales... If a seller is selling a coin claiming it to be MS70, nobody believes that... If you're selling a PCGS MS70 First Strike, serialized, hey, it is what it is.... It is a known item. You can feel better, as a buyer, that you know what you are buying.... So I think that also, drove the popularity of 3rd party grading companies... I personally think it's dealers, who drive a lot of the chatter against them... Some dealer sends a "perfect" coin "because he says it's perfect" and it comes back 69, and now it's the "PCBS" anytime he refers to them.... But I do agree with you, I think it is here to stay.... Grading also establishes some provenance in some cases... Probably you have seen, coins from a certain pirate ship that were recovered, and it's graded by the PCGS, and it says right on there, pirate treasure from this ship, or whatever... So, it's not some dude saying that, it's the PCGS saying that, and presumably they have done "some" due diligence, to establish that yes, these coins came from this ship.... Or World Trade Center coins... Or what have you. I personally, I think grading is a good thing. Not that it's perfect, but... I am more comfortable, buying a slabbed graded coin. I also agree with you, I would like to see them up their game in terms of, airtight slabs, nitrogen filled for perfect storage... which wouldn't be that hard, quite honestly.... for what they are charging, I think they could do that.... You comments about the billionairre, whose stacks of slabbed coins... Heh heh heh!!! Cracked me up! Yeah, uhhh, if you can afford THAT MANY slabbed coins, you can afford another safe, right?? More shelf space in your safe room?? Something... I doubt we're going to hear about the guy who passed away when the stacks of slabbed coins in his garage fell down and crushed him to death.... I doubt it.... He was moving around the pallets of slabbed coins in his warehouse with a forklift, and his forklift became unstable, flipped over and crushed him.... Heh heh heh! Anyways, great job on this one.
@shirleylynch6132
@shirleylynch6132 2 жыл бұрын
It's so tempting, because it's hard to see the details... Still I bought one at auction in a slab and that's where it's stays..
@steveib8118
@steveib8118 2 жыл бұрын
Love my capsules. Especially since I'm always dropping them.
@crystalkim7130
@crystalkim7130 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Sal's vid about this coin too. I didn't want to give my info for them to harass me over buying more coins though. So I didn't bother. I guess I'd keep it in the slab... for my kids. Personally for me, I prefer them in air tights.
@pajamastacking
@pajamastacking 2 жыл бұрын
graded if it was pcgs, I dont like NG's slabs personally.
@robertrichard2739
@robertrichard2739 2 жыл бұрын
have busted out some nice graded silver coins to fill pages in my albums, which makes my albums more valuable with nicer examples however don't think I would mess with gold
@RockmanDash
@RockmanDash 2 жыл бұрын
2 is 1 would break the coin out.
@ernestrosenkranz7642
@ernestrosenkranz7642 2 жыл бұрын
You may be able to sell the ones in slabs for more. But you always pay more for the ones in slabs. A ounce of gold is an ounce, slab or no slab.
@rogerisspeakingout
@rogerisspeakingout 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime he picked up the hammer I was thinking he was going to accidentally drop it on the coin😂
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
Me too to be honest
@bluescreen243
@bluescreen243 2 жыл бұрын
I keep coins that have already been slabbed in those slabs simply because it is verification that the coin is real. I wouldn't pay to slab them because it adds to the cost. I have a Metalytics analyzer for non slabbed coins. Some coins are counterfeited so often that verification by slabbing adds significant value. Like 1914D and 1909SVDB cents have significant numbers of counterfeits and some of those are really hard to detect.
@Clmkxoxo
@Clmkxoxo 2 жыл бұрын
Loved video! ER can't be proven again so those and 70's I'd leave in. I would love to put most of mine in air tights!!
@tom_morgandealer_pgh1648
@tom_morgandealer_pgh1648 2 жыл бұрын
great advice thought you were messing with me and (us) wouldnt want to ever break out a ms70 coin i dont think you can get any higher premiums if your to ever sell. graded stuff is just nice to have and if you want a raw one buy an extra one raw. funny you mention how there not water or air proof i bought some gen 7 anacs holders( the blue ones) and was washing off a sticker whole top of the label was wet. it dried looks fine. side not also have that hammer.
@benoitlabrecque4513
@benoitlabrecque4513 2 жыл бұрын
The final question doesn't really represent reality thought. Because the MS70 graded cost more always. So it would usually not be identical price ;p I would rather pay the raw one than the premium for the graded one.
@craigfiebiger1730
@craigfiebiger1730 2 жыл бұрын
In the present economy Never! If SHTF, then only if you must. As a 45 year collector I don't like the idea of slabbing modern coins but if I buy one and it's that way I leave it. Why? It does offer some protection for the time inorder for me to pass it on to my kids. Even though we know a slab seems like a gimmick it still adds value. Always leave them slabbed. I compare it to cleaning a perfect coin.
@silverfan2196
@silverfan2196 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of slabs my self. But i do agree with the idea if your buying slabs keep them in the slab.
@DeathChild7
@DeathChild7 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not into the graded coin side of collecting but I figure if you pay a big premium for it and I do believe most are, you would only want to crack it if a SHTF situation and had to use it.
@kateburley5377
@kateburley5377 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like slabbed coins unless it's a rare coin or low mintage. I think capsule would work too. Raw .
@TheQuickSilver101
@TheQuickSilver101 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of folks crack out modern bullion coins here on KZbin and I always assume they have enough money to cut it loose. Personally I'm so cheap that even if I could care less about the slab it's a protector for the coin so I'd leave it just for that reason. Personally I don't care about slabbed modern bullion (unless it's something special, but that's different). However, if someone gave me a choice between a slabbed coin and an unslabbed coin for the same price, I'd buy the slabbed coin every time. Thanks!
@jamescurrent8794
@jamescurrent8794 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the only reason to let the coin get air, is if you think the company that graded the coin mis-graded it, and you want to submit it to another company.
@dreesecoinshobbies1836
@dreesecoinshobbies1836 2 жыл бұрын
The main question for me is why am I collecting bullion. Is it pretty or is it value? To go to far one way, if the SHTF - are you going to try and take the slab to try and get extra ammo from the dude in the bushes? Will he give you an extra box because "its perfect"? In the other direction - will your kids care that it is "perfect" when they run to sell it once you are gone? LOL Ok - I have an issue grading bullion as you can see, but I understand the appeal. Numismatics - hate the grading too but I feel the grade is far more important on a 1878 Morgan MS70 than a 2022 Gold Eagle.
@sam7687-i9b
@sam7687-i9b 2 жыл бұрын
Great coin a spegtacular deal sir 🙂👍 ive bought half oz gold this month im on target for 2022 .
@PMStacker72
@PMStacker72 2 жыл бұрын
If it’s a coin with numismatic value or a limited/low mintage release then ya definitely graded is the way to go, bullion coins I think it’s waste just my opinion thanks Spegs👍🏼 always appreciate your content 🇺🇸
@HAMRADIOJOE4178
@HAMRADIOJOE4178 2 жыл бұрын
GOOD BOY, KEEP IT IN
@David_Quinn_Photography
@David_Quinn_Photography 2 жыл бұрын
great video I have 3 MS69 ASEs from the 90s that I was thinking of taking out to put in my dansco because its no 70 but may just wait and do a trade with some cash in my pocket when I do.
@johnwachter6369
@johnwachter6369 2 жыл бұрын
Cracked quite a few NGC slabs.....PCGS slabs are a pain....
@kenthemachinist4886
@kenthemachinist4886 2 жыл бұрын
It's also given a I.D + Registry with NGC
@4ninefine199
@4ninefine199 2 жыл бұрын
A coin collector friend of mine will remove graded coins from slabs, if he thinks the actual grade is higher than the stated grade. Then he will Re-Submit the coin and very often the new grade Will be higher. Cion grading is a very subjective process.
@rogermetcalf37
@rogermetcalf37 5 ай бұрын
You are right
@benoitlabrecque4513
@benoitlabrecque4513 2 жыл бұрын
For the buying ''likelyness'', it only really apply for the US marcket and the modern era of numismatic. For ancient and medieval coins, not so much, especially for those type of coins outside the usa.
@leadingauctions8440
@leadingauctions8440 2 жыл бұрын
I am new to collecting and gold. I want both, to have value to pass on and to enjoy holding history. I am thinking buying and cracking low-grade versions while I keep any high-grades sealed and I send in any high-grades I find loose.
@silver_salvage_savage
@silver_salvage_savage 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't break out a 70. Would (personally) prefer pcgs but....... I'll rarely change anything about a coin I buy unless it's nessesary. If I buy a coin in a pvc I'll put it in a flip. But if it's already in a flip, I won't do a thing. Even if it has inaccurate writing on it. Just don't handle my coins, unless I have to. I was strictly a raw coin guy and now I'm going more slabbed and graded for high grade examples of business strike silver. FH quarters, FB dimes, full step niks and key dates
@richardr5878
@richardr5878 2 жыл бұрын
I would not grade a bullion coin, but I’d never break out a MS70. MS69, all day, but I’d keep or pass on a “perfect” coin.
@1edgararias
@1edgararias 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the Gold libertad on the intro... didnt know you had one too!!!!
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I have… one :)
@dvvaughn564
@dvvaughn564 2 жыл бұрын
i picked up a tenth oz type 2 first release 2021 ms70 on sale at apmex for same price as a regular tenth oz i was effing ecstatic. new design first release ms 70 for regularly priced coin i couldnt click buy fast enough.... its gorgeous i love the new designs
@CommonCents.999
@CommonCents.999 2 жыл бұрын
I jumped on the same deal that Sal put out…so, I’d have to say the slabbed one. Couldn’t resist the deal
@calebtimbs5046
@calebtimbs5046 2 жыл бұрын
i think if the coin was ms69 it wouldn't matter, but an ms70 graded coin will always have a premium over a raw coin. another thing to think about is value appreciation, as more people crack their coins out of slabs, then there wont be as many examples of an ms70 coin in the future. I understand the want to touch your gold, but you have other ones that are identical. just touch them.
@pappydan1955
@pappydan1955 2 жыл бұрын
I am just getting started in stacking precious metals and I would rather buy the graded coin in a slab. I don't know much about coins at this point and would feel more confident of the value if it were professionally graded even if I paid slightly more.
@RandomlyGeneratedUsername
@RandomlyGeneratedUsername 2 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that many of the arguments are only valid for modern coinage. Most ancient and medieval coin collectors are against slabbing for a variety of reasons, and most slabbed ancient coins don't go for a premium compared to raw coins.
@TheGuamStacker
@TheGuamStacker 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say for those who don't like slabs. Sell it and buy a raw coin. Then buy more metals with the difference. Don't waste the premium for it by breaking it out.
@bunsaflappin
@bunsaflappin 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few slabbed early release silver maples that I got a good deal on because they milked up...leave 'em?
@timf6864
@timf6864 2 жыл бұрын
I do not slabs but if prices are the same I would buy the slab.
@charlesbronson9289
@charlesbronson9289 2 жыл бұрын
If they were the same price I'd buy the slab. That said, I only buy metals for monetary security. As much as I like the looks of some coins I'm just as happy with rounds if it means more metal for the fiat.
@rickgilbert4569
@rickgilbert4569 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you on this issue, but I wonder what you feel about the "second tier" grading companies...I'm always suspicious of coins (the grade, not whether the coin is real) about coins graded 70 by ANACS or ICG.
@silverstackerangel7070
@silverstackerangel7070 2 жыл бұрын
Slab for sure. Great Video Speg 👍👌
@CoinHound
@CoinHound 2 жыл бұрын
Good discussion !!!
@kevinbounds9837
@kevinbounds9837 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I believe graded new bouillon is useless, but it does ease most peoples mind about it not being fake gold. I believe that is why they sell better especially on line.
@BenCase88
@BenCase88 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I've never bought a slabed coin. I usually don't even look at the ones that are slabbed because I figure they are always more expensive. I wouldn't take one out if I were to get one but I've just never had to urge to buy slabbed over a regular coin. Interesting subject
@BenCase88
@BenCase88 2 жыл бұрын
Oh and I did stick around to the end. I can't stand a high pressure salesman and nothing will make me walk away or hang up quicker than those type of salesman.
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too.. I almost didn’t make this video because my finger was ready to hang up several times.
@BenCase88
@BenCase88 2 жыл бұрын
@SpegTacular I thought about after making my comments that I didn't really answer your question. If I did check the prices on two coins for the same price and one was in a Slab marked 70 I would take the Slabbed one but only because as you mentioned that other people would be more likely to buy it later.
@slayerstacker2074
@slayerstacker2074 2 жыл бұрын
If both coins were the exact same, I'd take the slabbed coin all day. I would not pay extra for the slabbed coin, but if they were the same, I'd take the sabbed. No brainer
@craig6903
@craig6903 Жыл бұрын
What if the coin is graded and it says Cleaned? I just purchased a morgan in Anac holder, by them saying it clean would it lower the desire of future buyers?
@sidcolwell7479
@sidcolwell7479 2 жыл бұрын
I say Leave it alone. You say thief I say roommate. Careful who you trust. HAD a trade dollar 1876-CC paid 550. In AU50. Years ago.😭 . Didn't know gold had snot in them. 👍
@4ninefine199
@4ninefine199 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you were dealing with nation wide coins in Texas 🤣 I did get a 1oz Gold Eagle from them for SPOT (with No shipping cost) 😉 But it is VERY difficult to get off of their sales list...
@pyrocouple5703
@pyrocouple5703 2 жыл бұрын
Great info! Funny tho I’ve had the opposite experience with the two local LCS near me. they don’t pay anymore for a slabbed bullion coin than they would for a raw coin. Cheers
@danhal9966
@danhal9966 2 жыл бұрын
Slabbed! Question-I have a 1894 gold liberty head dollar,slabbed MS63. The slab is scratched and doesn’t look very good.Makes the coin look bad. Should I break it out,keep as is or have re-slabbed. Any comments will be appreciated.
@blackghost1734
@blackghost1734 2 жыл бұрын
Break it out
@danhal9966
@danhal9966 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks,I am wondering if it will decrease its value?
@jrtjonathanwinchell3955
@jrtjonathanwinchell3955 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of graded coins because I like the feel of a coin. In addition when you teach a child or an adult about a coin you don't want that child or adult ask I want to touch and feel a coin and not hold a plastic cover to protect the coin. In my opinion it's not to easy to liquidate once its graded. What is easy is to put in a tube and to store it in a monster box.
@macdonaldbullion
@macdonaldbullion 2 жыл бұрын
70s should be left alone in there cases I think Edit: Some arnt worth slabbing though so research is key:)
@letsgobrandon6439
@letsgobrandon6439 2 жыл бұрын
Why? A modern bullion ms70 is in no way rare. Its bullion, and when you sell it you'll get bullion money for it regardless if its in plastic or not.
@macdonaldbullion
@macdonaldbullion 2 жыл бұрын
@@letsgobrandon6439 Sorry i wasnt clear, so youre right MS70 is in no way rare its just a grading for the coin. I dont collect slab personally because im not that interested in them really. But an MS70 morgan CC slabbed is going to be more than an MS70 morgan from philadelphia even though the US mint sold both for $85, people will pay more for the CC. Im no expert on graded coins but i think if people want slabbed MS70 and theyre willing to pay for it then its there stack bud. But i agree with you, i personally like my coins free
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
I just proved that I can get more for a 70 than a raw coin… I proved it many times. Your mileage may vary but also remember that you can ship these coins to shops that aren’t stuck in the past ;)
@bigsmurff55
@bigsmurff55 2 жыл бұрын
I hate slabs but I agree that high grade slabs are worth more money. But I would break out lower graded coins as I think they sell better out of the slabs.
@bobbystark3721
@bobbystark3721 2 жыл бұрын
Even if it’s still the same price, I’d still buy the coin raw. I accept your arguments wholeheartedly. However, we’re buying gold and silver. I don’t to hide beauty like that in a plastic tomb. In fact, I love junk silver because it’s absolutely acceptable for me to took it.
@5ivestring
@5ivestring 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, good information. I have been wondering about Mint Direct. When I first started one of the very first buys I made was a tube of Maple Leafs (I think I remember right). The tube had a table stating Mint Direct. Nothing else though. I opened it because I wanted to see the coins, one of my first buys. I have since then bought some packaged coins, mint direct, first strike and even a couple singles ms70s. And I have questions of course. What is all the differences. Perhaps you might do a video on the different grading. Mint Direct, MS?, proof, first strike, ???? and the different in values.
@markb.7642
@markb.7642 2 жыл бұрын
I have always been a fan of the slabbed coins, but my budget does not always allow me to get what I want. If they were identical in price I would jump on the stabbed coin.
@wasatchwizard4770
@wasatchwizard4770 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I'd keep it in the slab because it's a 3rd party CoA.
@EMan-cu5zo
@EMan-cu5zo 2 жыл бұрын
Crack it out and get it graded again. See how legit the grades are and see if it’s not just a scam.
@michaelp772
@michaelp772 2 жыл бұрын
I would sell it for a premium and purchase a raw one to replace it.
@toddbecker9203
@toddbecker9203 2 жыл бұрын
I have no problem with people cracking slabs , I personally will crack slabs if I feel the coin deserves a higher grade or designation not on the slab grades and designations can greatly increase the value especially with numismatics , when it come to bullion I personally feel it's a waste of money to have them graded or to buy in a slab
@hollywoodhand9012
@hollywoodhand9012 2 жыл бұрын
I’m all about filling my Dansco albums! I’ll crack any slab if there’s a hole to fill! Shoeboxes don’t look as nice on the shelf
@goldcicvibefel7628
@goldcicvibefel7628 2 жыл бұрын
Break it out. Then clean it with steel wool and sandpaper. 😂🐥 They have your CC #,,,? On a serious note, one of the PCGS sites used to run timed training videos for prospective employees where they were given about ten coins to grade. I kept a pen and paper next to me and would do my own grading. It's very similar to diamond grading and colored gemstone identification with tools of the trade where we are timed and is very difficult & you must be 100% correct. With the coin grading I got better and better over time. Although subjective it's usually pretty close. Even with a cell phone I can blow up a high res photo and see a hand retooling on a pre-1800s tip of the cleft of the letter R in the word LIBERTY which tells me which die state was used and affects value to specialists in that niche. PCGS & NGC are the only ones my family uses for generations. I am the baby and more of a Gemologist but the two seem to go together. An exception is ICG which upgrades Morgans for colored toning. This often resulted from a cardboard or plastic chemical used in very early coin collecting albums. I had a beautiful rainbow toned ICG one once. Also note that with graded coins by these companies the value almost doubles on old coins like Morgs between MS-64 & MS-65. The Red Book is the retail price & the blue book is the dealers buy price. It's exactly half. Grey sheet is more current.🙋🐥
@SgtMajorUSMC
@SgtMajorUSMC 2 жыл бұрын
Well I like slab it guarantees authenticity
@blackghost1734
@blackghost1734 2 жыл бұрын
The vin # on it is for proof right?
@rogertayloRRR
@rogertayloRRR 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been wrestling with this myself. I have a common $10 indian 63. The older is older where the foam blocks you from seeing the stars on the edge... Im tempted to crack it out. Im tempted to send to reslab but the extra $ and wait time is unattractive.. Ugh
@1cjs4u
@1cjs4u 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased a ms 70 libertad 2021 and when I got it in hand noticed a scratch on the reverse so I am wondering if it is wrong to re sell?
@tallgoofyb
@tallgoofyb 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not wrong just don’t mis represent it. Post the real pic and it’s graded MS 70 by company so and so.
@duanedas5346
@duanedas5346 3 ай бұрын
If in keeping the coin i would not let it breath...but i cant talk i don't hzve a oz gold...
@johnnyb3126
@johnnyb3126 2 жыл бұрын
I hate when people crack out graded coins it screws up the pop numbers
@coinhistory638
@coinhistory638 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never buy a slabbed coin for a premium.
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
You know what all extremely rare and desired coins have in common besides being a coin? … they’re covered in protective plastic from a professional grading company.
@coinhistory638
@coinhistory638 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s sadly true but you can still have a a great unslabbed collection. Love your videos by the way.
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
Of course. I have far more unslabbed coins than slabbed
@Evan_Horvath
@Evan_Horvath 2 жыл бұрын
I would only buy the slabbed coin if it was the same price. Then I would sell it and buy a raw one. The slab is absolutely worthless to me.
@usaalways1869
@usaalways1869 2 жыл бұрын
You said I think 🤔 that’s the problem you don’t know
@au_ag2.088
@au_ag2.088 2 жыл бұрын
Anything lower than a 70, yes.
@PhilipaPowers
@PhilipaPowers 2 жыл бұрын
Hit the like button!!
@davidtraves5954
@davidtraves5954 2 жыл бұрын
For a robber I think he would like raw coins better harder to track them
@jimthompson9992
@jimthompson9992 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who isn't a collector any more, when the time comes that I would use anything like that....the "dollar bill" won't be relevant, the world as we know it won't be the same, and survival will be what people are concerned about...plus bad folks are counterfeiting slabs now....soooo, if offered both at the same price, I'd probably be human and buy the slab. Humans will be human!
@saltwatersaddletramp7229
@saltwatersaddletramp7229 2 жыл бұрын
You scared me there for a minute!😬
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
You know I’m wiser than that :)
@BLASTIC0
@BLASTIC0 2 жыл бұрын
I busted open a $10 gold liberty when i first stated buying… I dont trust those things. I wanna hold it. I trust the company, but not that the slab is a real one, they seem to be very easily faked relative to faking federal reserve notes. I sometimes wish I didn’t, but I always come back to that I would have eventually done it anyway. Its bulky too.
@tomtharos4440
@tomtharos4440 2 жыл бұрын
I like that slab the least. Slabs take up a lot of room. Slabs do prevent someone from lowballing you when selling. Any bullion graded less than MS70 isn’t worth a premium. If you send one in and it comes back less than perfect, crack it out if you want.
@antraxxx004
@antraxxx004 2 жыл бұрын
I have a ms 69 1/4 eagle with a hefty premium.. its an error coin lol
@KCTShark
@KCTShark 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@jasonrangel3652
@jasonrangel3652 2 жыл бұрын
It would b hard for me to not open it thats y i dont buy em ...
@Sal.357
@Sal.357 2 жыл бұрын
I get it about keeping coins in the slab, BUT when crap hits the fan and it needs to be sold, alot of shops will only give you melt for the coin in the holder. People say, Support your local coin shop, but that same shop is looking to rip you off. To them, regardless if collectable, they will tell you, Gold is Gold and its not worth more in the holder in these times. I know, because I went to several local coin shops and they all were giving me melt on a 1921 50 Pesos NGC 68. Im not stupid, but took it out to see what the so called professionals would say and I was right. Melt is what they were offering. You're not going to get better then that is what I was told. I laughed in their face. I would never trust my local coin shops.
@Spegtacular
@Spegtacular 2 жыл бұрын
Well since a SHTF scenario has not yet happened and nobody knows when.. keep it in the slab until a time comes for SHTF. If that time arrives, you’ll have a hammer ready I’m sure ;)
@AllotmentDiggers
@AllotmentDiggers 2 жыл бұрын
Did you just blow on your coin, Very naughty SpegTacular
@DJbabynoneck
@DJbabynoneck 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see why you'd crack an MS 70 coin. It has more value in the slab. If you want a piece to play with just buy another.
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