Should I Reconcile With My Abusive Husband? (He Punched Our Son)

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[@tkbreen1381]

“They’re more concerned with the purity of their image than the safety of the people that attend” HES COOKING 🔥

[@orielwiggins2225]

So much truth. And I've been where she is. Especially the church part. It's horrific to have the two places that are supposed to be a sanctuary be so isolating and crazy making and shaming you for having a human reaction to inhumane treatment.

[@alluringbliss4165]

Ive seen that in my childhood. Only came to realize when I became an adult.

[@boadecia1433]

They're protecting their industry rather than their people.

[@blueStarKitt7924]

​@@orielwiggins2225Exactly.😔

[@GameChanger597]

The fact that they excused this atrocious abuse only proves just how much they know nothing about what the Bible actually says

[@melissab3217]

Unfortunately I have heard many women in the church say sexual assault can't exist in a marriage. They are completely wrong, and this kind of gaslighting is devastating. I would leave that church!

[@dyllangames3592]

I understand sometimes the significant other isn't gonna be in the mood, but if his needs aren't being met and she's expecting him to meet all her needs, then she has to compromise on one thing or another. Marriage isn't "he does this for me because it's one of my needs, but I don't do this even though he told me that it's one of his needs"

[@karydoughty3206]

@@dyllangames3592there is a huge difference between negotiating needs and violating consent. As someone who experienced this my husband didn’t care about my needs at all. He repeatedly expected me to push myself to the physical breaking point and disregarded the impact on my health. Guys like this husband don’t care about her needs. Paul never condoned a man pressing his needs over his wife’s well being. Please understand that

[@perkasami6305]

​@@dyllangames3592If he's not even meeting all of her needs, or even trying to, why should she even want to meet his "need"? Stop being gross and misogynistic. If he's going to have rage issues, he's not emotionally safe, and women don't want to have sex with guys that are not emotionally safe

[@dyllangames3592]

@@perkasami6305 but she is expecting him to meet all her needs. She just doesn't care about the one need of his. And yes for men sex is a need, because it's the most intimate way for a man to connect with his partner. She probably expects him to do A B or C thing but when it comes to anything he needs she probably brushes it off because she doesn't care.

[@tinarollings8719]

Exactly. The Word says to not defile the marriage bed. According to Hebrews 13:4, the marriage bed is to be undefiled, meaning it should remain uncontaminated by immorality or sexual sin. This verse emphasizes the importance of maintaining a pure and chaste marriage relationship.

[@reyno6826]

My son accidentally threw a pot into the 65 inch T.V. it shattered into a million pieces. When my hubby got home he laughed and said " good, now maybe we can all interact with each other again." 😂

[@Luke-zv6bb]

I'm sorry

[@Luke-zv6bb]

About ur TV lol

[@Andible]

Haha, your husband sounds like a good guy but how do you accidentally throw a pot lol

[@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607]

Aww good for you you chose better than she did. Yay for you

[@Luke-zv6bb]

@@reyno6826 I feel like sometimes kids are not fine, and it's okay to have like pcit (play therapy) its a really dope thing just MAKE SURE THE THERAPIST IS ON THE SAME PAGE AS U, its not the same as behavioral therapy if u can get someon in the home or it could be a fun activity for them if u think they could benefit from

[@BisquickTheBaboon]

It wouldn't be reconciling, it would be going back to an abuser. Sounds like she needs a new church as well.

[@Marlene-c1q]

NO church!! She need no church. She needs good people around her.

[@The4Remaining]

@@Marlene-c1q THIS!!!! They're ALL the same! I finally saw that for myself after years of the abusive and toxic cycle. Still healing but feel MUCH better! Jesus and God are real. However, "the Church" naw... keep that!!!💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@BusArch42]

Yup. The one I grew up attending condoned abuse and violence.

[@laylafritz5880]

I agree, that church is too radical... she needs new friends that are going to tell her to set boundaries and put her foot down. Keep that protection order and leave the church. There's a difference between beating your son and disciplining your son.

[@BusArch42]

@@laylafritz5880 a difference that I experienced in this type of church ( cult IMO).

[@choklitsoul4700]

Part of the problem is "church" teaches "wives submit to your husbands" , but fail to teach husbands how they should treat their wives. Ephesians 5:22-33.

[@perfecter1497]

Not true

[@anngoad2283]

That is not what means. The Bible says that wife's should submit but that husband's should care for and protect their wife's.

[@jolenedavis1596]

Mine doesn’t teach that lol.. abuse is abuse

[@ScarletBegonias-]

Not all churches are the same. You don’t need to group all of them up. I know plenty of churches that have outed and gotten rid of people when needed.

[@005Amergin]

The scriptures are badly taught in such a way to reinforce wives being oppressed at home. Back to the dark ages. Alot of places continue to keep families in the vice grip of the leadership. These are not true shepherds. This is not what it's supposed to be.

[@JustaNobody-j8x]

Never reconcile with anyone who is abusive.

[@kalebd9601]

This^

[@Olivetree80]

Unfortunately it's way too common, it's called the cycle of abuse

[@Lisa-7088]

100% facts right here @kmarie!!

[@pammy5260]

Yes especially when they hit yout kids, whether its the childs father, your bf or new husband, that IS a deal breaker. Never take that!!!

[@lynnebucher6537]

I made that mistake once, never again.

[@Charmainecharmainecharmaine]

Do not tell anyone about getting the lawyer, he will escalate his abuse. Please be safe.

[@amyhull754]

My biggest fear here is for her during the separation and leaving: it is THE most dangerous time for a woman (or anyone) leaving an abuser.

[@chinwenduchinwe586]

And... beware of parental alienation.

[@ricksanchezsflask8794]

Moral of the story: your church friends are not your real friends.

[@Nastasyashanti]

It depends. I’m agnostic now and still have good friends from Catholic Church and Hare Krishna movement (considered a cult in lots of countries). I’m sure they wouldn’t condone abuse or r@pe and they supported me in my decision to leave a narcissistic ex without any judgement or preaching.

[@marym2632]

Unfortunately ALOT of times the church is just interested in how they look and you can't come in with your problems and make them look bad..

[@triplejmom7826]

It depends. There are good friends & bad friends in any social encounter, church, work, school, etc. it’s horrific what’s happened here 😢

[@onefreelife]

NO CHURCH HAS A RIGHT TO DICTATE YOUR LIFE. OUTRAGEOUS

[@chinwenduchinwe586]

​@@onefreelife They don't....😡😡😡 Please run from the abuser and run from that church congregation!

[@cate9540]

Rape is a horrible assault to experience for anyone, but for it to be perpetrated by a spouse is the ultimate betrayal. That her church downplays forced intimacy is absolutely appalling.

[@sarahhosl2330]

This story is a perfect example of :"There's no hate like christian love"

[@lindawatson8087]

No is no, husband or not, you have control over YOU. No real friend would tell you to stay in an abusive relationship.

[@darkfafnir4389]

Yea and he should have left her a whole ago...you people are nuts...you probably think Joe is a good vote too 🤡🤡🤡

[@mcrchickenluvr]

@@darkfafnir4389umm what? We’re talking about a ‘father’ abusing his son. What the hell are you smoking?

[@alluringbliss4165]

@@darkfafnir4389what are you on. Put it down.

[@user-lf2lf6wy4z]

@@darkfafnir4389 What a stupid ass remark. What's wrong with you?

[@PrinceOfParthia74]

No is no for a day, for a week, for 2 weeks, if no remains no for longer, then there are bigger issues involved which were not disclosed here.

[@yaya14every81]

Nope to the nope, nope, nope. This will escalate. Save yourself and your son.

[@arlettezambrano3894]

I agree 💯 this man has hit that child before and has even "taped" his wife and the church has the audacity to say it wasn't "tape" just cuz it was her husband, that church needs its own therapist cuz in the eyes of the law husband or not that was "tape" you get what I'm saying I just don't know if I can say the word on here. That man is crazy she did the right thing I would've did the same thing. I don't care who it is no one is laying their hands on my child or me plain and simple.

[@PeterClark-ez2of]

Her son is screwed either way. On one hand he’s got a shitty abusive father, and in the other side, he’s got a mom who is clearly too scared to actually parent. Her son didn’t accidentally break the tv. He got upset and became destructive and violent. When that type of person doesn’t experience consequences or get any decent parenting, they end up “accidentally breaking” people instead of just tvs. What she can’t seem to understand is that there is a happy medium between the abusive parenting style of her husband, and letting her child walk all over her. Unless she figures that out, her son will have no success in society.

[@NORTAH85]

Great advice. Pretty sure the dr said the exact same thing

[@jacquelinedesmarais4108]

@@PeterClark-ez2offrom what it’s sounds like the only way she could parent her son is if she left, cause you can’t co-parent with someone who has completely dominated and steamrolled you like her husband has obviously done

[@jill61421]

As a Christian this is APPALLING. I'm literally nauseous. I can't believe it.

[@crazeekids9744]

My ex was abusive and made sure we belonged to a “church” who would condone how he treated us. He was verbally and physically abusive as well as being an adulterer and they STILL sided with him. He and the “pastor” were friends and he was likely treating his wife and children the same way. Those three years were the closest thing to hell on earth that I have experienced. If she chooses to get out, it will still take a long, long time to heal from all of this. Also, an FYI, keeping your child in the home of an abuser is parental neglect on your part, since you know about it and are choosing to not protect him. It can be cause to have your child removed from your care.

[@BusArch42]

This was my step dad. The church taught him to be abusive.

[@AbbaJoy1]

This was my fear!!! That we'd end up in the emergency room and my children would be removed, and I'd be considered guilty, too. But when I went to my pastor (even this is a scary thing) he said to trust God. Even though I believe he should have given different counsel, God did take care of us-- my husband shocked me and the church by leaving me and saying he never was a Christian. But I was so afraid before until he left.

[@staciacrick3373]

Religion has benefitted men since the beginning and colluded, enabled and rescued them from accountability and any consequences. When we talk about the Patriarchy this is a big part of what has kept women as 2nd class citizens, chattel, submissive, compliant to their husbands.It's not a wonder why women are getting married less and less. Research shows marriage benefits men more than women and over 70 percent of women imitate divorce.

[@kw3113]

She needs to get out of that church. Her husband is out of control and her son has control issues and she needs church ladies to give her answers. Yet she hoping that the church will change?? Hope she has a good therapist.

[@sig7159]

If your son sees abuse, anger issues & lack of impulse control from his father, that's exactly what his going to mimic. She needs to get out of there before she also destroys her sons life

[@Mommapunkin]

I bet she belongs to a Baptist church. Because this sounds so familiar.

[@staciacrick3373]

Just like she has been waiting for her abusive husband of over 7 years change even after he raped her.

[@blueStarKitt7924]

​@@sig7159Yes.😔

[@Steve-lk1eb]

Man sometimes John’s intuition is so freakin on point.

[@user-lf2lf6wy4z]

I agree. He just somehow.........knows

[@user-pn1rx1xj5r]

This comes from experience/knowledge most of the times, as professional myself, I learned that the presenting problem is usually very superficial

[@mariap7671]

They tell him about the issues beforehand

[@mayam6444]

@@user-lf2lf6wy4zalmost like the information is given pre interview. they should put the initial question in a big white box on the video, so people can’t miss it

[@Paula-fd6lj]

It's not intuition, it's human behavior. People become predictable once you pay attention. An abuser/bully always has a past. No one offends from 0 to 100 without having escalated the abuse slowly and without push back.

[@donnaw2868]

She still has time to raise her son OUT of an abusive home and hopefully teach her son how people should behave.

[@mmp495]

Divorce both the husband and the church. I would rather feel safe and making it on my own than being in a toxic, abusive situation like this. Hoping and wishing all the best, safety and love for her and son. ❤

[@user-kp6we9qw7i]

Please stay away from this man and keep him away from your son. When I was in middle school, I begged my mom to divorce my dad because of how abusive he was. She did not. My trauma continued. My sister‘s trauma continued. My mom’s trauma continued. There were so many more traumatic events that could have been avoided if she had taken us away from him. This has caused a lifetime of issues that possibly I would’ve been able to deal with earlier in life if I would’ve been in a peaceful and safe environment. The people at that church are wrong and are leading you down a bad path if you continue to listen to them. The people at that church are condoning violence. They are not following the Bible.

[@melissab3217]

Exactly. I wanted my parents to divorce so badly. I lived in fear and anxiety every day about my dad. My stomach would drop when I saw his car pull up, and I'd sit quietly in my room hoping he wouldn't be in a mood. Decades later, I still am unable to relax or have the self-confidence I need for the life I want. And I've never been able to have the relationship I wanted with my mother with him always controlling her.

[@alycewich4472]

🎯💯

[@blueStarKitt7924]

​@@melissab3217Sorry for what you all went through. May you all heal and find peace and love. Be safe.🙏❤️

[@BusArch42]

I’m so sorry. My step dad was the same. My mom failed to protect us. Now I have trust issues and probably always will. My father abandoned us to the abuse. So many adults but no real parents. They will expect you to be loyal to family as they age too. You don’t have to. You have the right to go no contact with your abusers

[@Nastasyashanti]

I second that. I have cptsd from my abusive childhood with an alcoholic dad who would wake us up at 3 am and throw tantrums sometimes break things. Thankfully I’ve never been physically abused but my subconscious made an image of home as something unsafe that must be avoided. I tolerated some really bad friends and lovers just because I didn’t want to go home and see all this bs. It’s hard to be in your 30-s and still not have a place you could call home.

[@Rebecca-zx5yl]

Run! I went through something similar with my ex husband. He ended up strangling my 14 year old son. He would have killed him if I hadn’t been able to get them apart. It started as small “hits”. This happened after my 14 year old stopped my ex from hitting my 11 year old. This was over a small disagreement during morning coffee. We are 2 years later, my ex has criminal assault charges and still says he did nothing wrong.

[@smustipher]

Around age 11, I woke up to the sound of my stepmom whimpering and crying: "please...no..stop". It took me until my 40s to realize that she was being S.A.'D. I grew up under the impression that since my Dad was the "man of the house" that she had no say in the matter. Meanwhile I'm in my mid 40's and have never beem in a serious relationship, I wonder why?

[@benmyers9030]

Maybe no relationship stems from no effort and no accountability. Life doesn't give participation trophies. Obstacles are there to be overcome, not defeated by

[@SuzanneQuew-vc4us]

I think I understand what you are saying, I’m 47-years old, I was married 17 years, never again.

[@dudeorduuude5211]

​​@@benmyers9030don't be an AH. You are uncomfortable by what they wrote and come back with this ridiculous comment. They witnessed their mother's r***. Stop dismissing this and it's impact. You are afraid, dude.

[@alluringbliss4165]

@@benmyers9030sound like you are like the husband.

[@Pipers_hooman]

​@@benmyers9030 You have issues. I take it you're just like this guy? Sick talk

[@susanpage8315]

I grew up in a fundie church. Abuse was ignored; women were expected to stay even in abusive marriages. I was condemned by my former church for seeking a divorce from a verbally abusive man (who also had a porn addiction).

[@alycewich4472]

That is NOT what a Christ centered person OR church is. We had JESUS CHRIST as the center of our lives. If you cannot see JESUS in us, we're not authentic!

[@melissab3217]

Yep. I saw the same at a fundie church I left. Even revealing the new location of a mother and her kids to the abusive husband!

[@sicastra]

I experienced a very similar response from a fundie church

[@user-lf2lf6wy4z]

Horrible. What church was that?

[@user-lf2lf6wy4z]

@@melissab3217 That is SICK. To put their lives at possible risk?!?!? And then do the "God talk"

[@gingerjeff6385]

What the f***?? As a pastor, I cannot imagine hearing any part of her story and not immediately involving some kind of police or social worker… the word pastor literally means shepherd. A shepherd’s job is PROTECTING the sheep. Unfortunately, most pastors are just protecting our pockets. Lord have mercy… Hope she can find a good church that will love her more than their image.

[@as2223]

Hard to find churches that are not just another business venture by an entrepreneur and not a calling from Christ.

[@user-lf2lf6wy4z]

I'd like to have YOU for my pastor

[@Soundsaboutreet]

Right? Exactly! You have a moral and spiritual obligation for safeguarding your congregation and especially children. A woman and child’s safety has to prioritise a marriage staying together just for the sake of vows.

[@BonazaiGirl]

If there were more pastors like you, less people would be leaving the church. Unfortunately, the greedy ones tend to be on the forefront.

[@BusArch42]

@@BonazaiGirlexactly.

[@maryedge8666]

It makes me SICK the way her “church” and “Christian” friends handled this. At the end of the day, their salvation is between them and God, but I highly doubt these people are true followers of Christ with the way they treated this woman and the abuse she went through. Please know this is not how it’s supposed to be.

[@bbrichardbb]

Not really they just think as wives they have to get fucked when husband wants regardless. Because its your husband. Even then if she says no its no. Go jerk off

[@noprogressionisregression6854]

I'm always laughing when people say they're surprised how Christians handle things. You do understand that many people use Christianity to be sexist, sadistic, and just terrible people right? I'm not saying that there aren't good people that seek out Faith but unfortunately so many people use it to be horrible people. Also, it's a very patriarchal and sexist institution

[@biologygirl91]

Yes! As a Christian, this is abhorrent behavior for them to treat her this way and not help her in whatever way they can. The world watches/hears this and lumps us all together as caring more about image then authenticity

[@lynnebucher6537]

I think it's appalling that the church basically said he's your husband so he has the right to abuse you and your kid.

[@sassysister8552]

Well said!!

[@treykennedy8897]

The hypocrisy and irony to get mad and use physical force because your kid got mad and used physical force is absurd. He’s the one teaching him that behavior

[@a.b.2850]

I tried to press charges. In 2006. I was humiliated. “You were married”.

[@user-ei8wi1kr9n]

I’m sorry

[@sunshinehowells9845]

I was told I should get more sleep so I didn't sleep as soundly so that he couldn't do that to me..by a female deputy. . Instead of feeling angry, I decided she was blessed to never have experienceInstead of feeling angry, I decided she was blessed to never have experienced SA

[@akapatience5571]

I'm so sorry ❤

[@melanienygaard273]

If the kid has ADHD, there’s a good chance that at least one parent also does. Impulse control may be part of the issue, but not an excuse for abuse.

[@hannaahlin5277]

Might not necessarily be adhd either. Apparently adhd and ptsd-like symptoms gets mixedupp/missdiagnosed allot. If the kid's been hit before, I'd say thay need a second opinion.

[@moderator7169]

I'm an adult. I have severe ADHD. And I never raised a hand to a woman or child

[@moderator7169]

@@karlihannah1330 that's false. Educate yourself. You sound dumb. Aggressiveness might not be the #1 intention, it very much can be part of ADHD. It can stem from impulse control, and much more. not everyone with ADHD .. but many do. Go EDUCATE please

[@Celine-USA]

People telling you not to protect yourself and your family are not your friends. This church is sick. This is heartbreaking.

[@MoneyWise007]

New church. No husband. Be happy. Be safe.

[@mustangava]

These comments are so supportive and so very true. May I also mention that by allowing this to continue, she is teaching her son to hit other people. Get out now! That first night when you're out, you and your son will have the best night's sleep ever, because you will be free of that horrible man. He won't change! Sincerely, The Voice of Experience

[@NoOne-wt3sv]

What he did was called “sexual coercion”. It is a form of sexual abuse and harassment. May the son and mother be safe from that monster of a man.

[@christinamasterson8550]

As a wife her duty is to give her body to her husband and vice versa. Nobody bothers to ask why she was withholding sex.

[@clarissas8741]

@@christinamasterson8550 that is one scripture; there are way more scriptures that tell you to love your wife and cherish her. if you love and cherish someone, you’re not gonna force them to have sex with you.

[@karlihannah1330]

​@@christinamasterson8550I can't believe that is your stance. How about - as a husband it is your responsibility to act respectful and care about your spouse when she says no As a husband it is your responsibility to take care of your child and wife and protect them

[@ashleygood4615]

No it was rape.

[@johnjeremih]

​@@christinamasterson8550the problem is that she already said that he is abusive.

[@lauriesimonds9229]

30 years ago, my seminary trained Christian husband attacked our 3 year old son and myself. We separated and I (also Christian) begged him to get help, to which our pastor agreed. My husband refused to believe he did anything wrong and wouldn't change. We divorced because when the decision comes down to divorce or death (so many women killed by domestic violence every day) - I chose to stay alive for my son!!! And guess what - after 30 years, my ex husband STILL hasn't changed. Get out. Stay out. Stay safe for yourself and children 🙏🏼❤❤❤

[@neechee5150]

@lauriesimonds9229 said, "so many women killed by domestic violence every day" According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics "more than three women and one man are murdered by their intimate partners in this country every day". While three women per day being killed as a result of DV/IPV is too many, three does not equal "so many".

[@ElliBeenie]

@@neechee5150 pray tell, how many women would have to be killed for you to consider it “many”? 3 women a day is more than 1000 women a year. And that is just ONE country. There are many countries where even more women are killed every single day. It’s a huge issue. What a useless comment.

[@happilydivorced3235]

@@neechee5150Actually, 3 women per day is “so many.” How many women per week/month/year? Combine those numbers in every country. Is that not millions of women around the world?

[@neechee5150]

@@happilydivorced3235 The original poster that I responded to limited her scope to PER DAY ONLY and she did not state world wide so the de facto population she is talking about is the US. Three per day is not " so many" in the context of millions of adult women in the US. Again the original poster limited the scope to PER DAY ONLY not me Here is something that you chose to ignore in your response. You have to apply that same methodology that you used to calculate the number of men who are killed by their romantic partners each year across the world and that too adds up very fast as well. I gave stats for both men and women who are killed by their romantic partners via DV/IPV. You and the original poster chose to ignore that many men are killed each year by their wifes/GF. To me a man's life is just as important and just as valuable as a woman's life and one death per year due to IPV/DV is one too many whether that be a man or a woman who is killed by their lover. I have called out and reported female professionals in the field of social work/therapy who discount and discredit men they have never met and do not know when these men report being victims of DV and I have called these women out for not accepting what the male victims have to say without judgement and pressured/confronted these women to let the corroborated facts and evidence dictate their assessment of what really happened when the IPV/DV perp is a woman. It is shocking to see this kind of sexism/misandry among female professionals in the fields of social work/therapy

[@Mariaelaina10]

As a Christian, what in the world is wrong with these churches and church “friends”?

[@thesweetestteas.4534]

Misogyny and a disdain for women

[@anne4650]

I think of myself as Christian. It’s the way one behaves. Haven’t been in a church in 50 years. They just want your money … nothing else.

[@SeekingNewHeights777]

@@thesweetestteas.4534facts that’s not a house of God it’s a donation center for a garbage pastor and congregation so many churches don’t have any ounce of the Holy Spirit in it people have to use discernment when choosing churches partners ect.

[@sdavid2311]

After I walked out on my husband of 2 months after being violently physically assaulted, I had some seniors from my church encouraging me to forgive him and get back...even after I shared the multiple instances of physical, mental and verbal abuses I had endured and tried to ignore hoping he would change, until it escalated to this. I had a parish priest tell me I had to forgive him and treat him like he was my cross to bear in this world. I am glad I had better friends and family and I left everything in God's hand, he helped me decide. I would honestly bear any other kind of cross, but not something that is a threat to my safety and life. Never go back to an abuser, and an abuser who does not acknowledge his actions ( pretends nothing happened to save his image).

[@larissanmoon299]

That’s not a church, that’s a cult. Leave. Now.

[@bimiup1]

I’m horrified! She knows what her husband is and is letting her church and friends tell her that it’s her fault. Calling in to this show shows she has a lot of courage. Get out of this marriage, call the cops if he violates the epo. She needs to protect herself and her kids.

[@Ayaa29048]

It's trauma. Probably had a parent tell her she's the problem, she's the one who's hard to please, she's the problem for standing up for herself, she's the ISSUE. And a kid truly believes THEY are the issue. Also her call gives me chills because I had my current bf basically have sex with me as I was crying because I felt so disregarded that he doesn't care I DON'T want to have sex at the moment.

[@dianarichert5500]

Trauma, PTSD keeps women in these types of abusive marriages. People would be shocked to learn the number of Pastor’s wives who are subject to physical/verbal abuse. This type of abuse deeply hurts the heart of God.

[@joannajohnson8210]

I had to leave my previous church after turning my husband in to CPS. CPS gave me a choice, the kids or the husband. I chose the kids and the church told me I was wrong, that I should let CPS take the kids even though my husband refused any help and any responsibility. It hurts, in a way even more so than losing my husband, but we've found a different church now and the household is much more peaceful.

[@alizarinirazila]

Your husband is an adult who can make his own choices and can choose to take responsibility. Your children are developing and need guidance, so you made the right choice. Those children have enough to work through in life, they will be glad you chose them. Stay strong 💕

[@bblum91286]

This is the best advice Dr. John has given. Dismissing the cults and the norms of them is on point! Many of the cults insinuate women are property of the husband and staying under the “umbrella of authority.” If you are in a church and hear this saying a lot, please run for your life!!

[@mwhe3111]

The safety of children must ALWAYS BE THE FIRST PRIORITY.

[@allisonfisher9304]

I’m my understanding of biblical scripture, there are 4 reasons given to divorce: adultery, willful not-support of the household, spiritual abuse(not allowing your partner to practice their religion), and physical abuse. You and your children have been abused, and any person telling you that you don’t have grounds to leave him are abusing you, as well. You were right to leave, and God Himself supports you, no matter what the idiots at your church say. They are not in the right. You did right by protecting your children, and yourself.

[@samuelzulu9731]

thats wrong there is only one ground for biblical divorce which is adultery others are grounds for legal separation

[@mombythesea2426]

@@samuelzulu9731That’s not really true. People confuse Christ’s words to mean women can only divorce due to cheating. But His words were to men who were divorcing wives for frivolous reasons in order to “marry” another girl for a week, scratch that itch, and then remarry the first wife. And He was telling them that unless their wife cheated on them, you can’t divorce them. But in a broader sense, the Torah allowed slaves to have their freedom if their owner was physically abusive even once. Many, many verse talk about leaving people who have evil and abusive tongues. Many verses talk about turning from evil people who are abusers, slanderers, lazy, etc. She needs to protect her son from her husband. That means her husband already voided the marriage contract.

[@rebekahwebster3104]

Could you share the verses you look to to gain that conclusion?

[@paulettewilliams6492]

AMEN!! Thank you for telling her the truth and encouraging her to get out. My heart is breaking for her.

[@nicolenebaard2302]

I am so sorry honey..we all rooting for you..there are many who have walked the same road…you need to heal now

[@jet4415]

I love how Churches don’t know anything about Domestic Abuse. “Suck it up and keep giving us money!” Is their rally cry.

[@vlw4877]

Amen!!!

[@alycewich4472]

Churches that DON'T address this issue are WRONG TO THE CORE. As followers of Jesus Christ we are called to care for the weak and needy. So if this is the only idea that you see Christians, I'm so so sorry because this is not an authentic Christian.

[@neelo821]

@@alycewich4472 Exactly. Even the Bible says: "Husbands, love your wives, EVEN AS Christ ALSO LOVED the church, and gave himself for it" (Eph 5: 25). There is nowhere in the Bible that says Jesus hit His disciples or any body else. He even defended a woman from getting stoned! While there was no reason for Him to stop the persecutors.

[@photographyenthusiast9941]

Yup. I particularly love when they use scripture to bully women into staying, telling them that they are sinning against God if they leave. No individual who has ever been abused would think to tell someone to subject themselves to additional abuse. Bunch of softies in the church landscape who grew up in yellow homes with white picket fences who have no sense of reality.

[@mamabearwarriors93]

This absolutely doe not apply to every church. Ours is extremely proactive in the prevention arena and my previous church in the same denomination has gone to the police when necessary, and in another case where it wasn't abuse but unfaithfulness, they gave all kinds of support to the wife and kids and the husband is no longer welcomed in the church because he was totally unrepentant.

[@SuzanneQuew-vc4us]

I can’t stand parents who choose their spouse over their children…the first time a man does that to my kid he’d be out…that’s why I’m divorced, sure I get to be a single mom, but I protected our children.

[@samuelzulu9731]

no spouse comes first then children you made a covenant to god not your children

[@animatedaries6806]

Amen

[@mtclauraamaral2201]

​@@samuelzulu9731 God doesn't condone violence on children nor spouses. And if you think protecting an innocent child comes second to an abusive husband you don't understand God at all. Go pray my friend. Where there is love evil can't make a nest to stay.

[@samuelzulu9731]

@@mtclauraamaral2201 I think you misunderstood me and are being overly emotional for nothing

[@samuelzulu9731]

@@SuzanneQuew-vc4us then you shouldn't have gotten married

[@user-st6nt4ou6f]

Denial is a hard battle to overcome. I feel for her.

[@lythiascanlon2131]

Getting away from an abusive partner is a process, not a single event. It can happen to anyone, rich, poor, race, anyone. It's a painful and complicated problem to deal with when your domestic partner, who you love and trust, is harming you physically/mentally. I hope this lady and her son end up okay. You can't change these types of people, they are incapable of seeing that their antisocial abusive behavior is wrong, and most times feel entitled to behave this way. Dr. Delony is brilliant and insightful. God bless you real good Dr. Deloney.

[@Bella15230]

I said no about a week ago, I was respected, no attitude or guilt tripping. Marriage doesn’t give you rights over someone body and the fact the there are groups out there that think otherwise is scary.

[@izzywox8246]

Right same. I respect my spouse and he respects me. These groups straight up lack respect

[@sarikagoode1505]

Church is the worst enabler of abuse. Those people don’t have to live with the dangerous person themselves, they shouldn’t be pushing that to anyone else.

[@standground7956]

*Yes, stay if prefer to be with an abusive person.* If you don’t want to live with an abusive person, *the answer is NO.*

[@sksunshine4860]

No is a full sentence. Shoving a person away for over an hour then finally not having the energy does not constitute consent, NO means NO FULL STOP!! To anyone going through this, you are not your husband's tool or toy, it is a partnership and he has violated you physically, emotionally and mentally and is now doing the same to a child. The list is likely more like a novel. My first memory of my Christian father abusing my mom was at not quite 3 and now as an adult, 6 kids in just over 7 years feels a lot like consent was never on the table, she was used and abused. Unfortunately he passed when I was almost 13 and she passed when I was almost 24 after 4 years of battling cancer. At that point I was trying to keep up a home, keep everyone fed with clean clothes and take care of my mom and despite all the questions I had, I couldn't subject her to them. She was hundreds if not thousands of miles from her family and tbh, I doubt anyone of them would have done anything as we are talking parents born in 1907/8, my parents in the early 40's and part of a similar sounding church. I wished so many times my mom would leave and felt so guilty when I was relieved that he died, still do to this day. First time I actually said those words but it's the truth.

[@ellienicolexo]

Shoutout to this mom for taking measures to protect her child and show him that she believes his experience - not every parent is willing to “side” with their kid over their spouse like that

[@AlorsonDanseX]

If you want to be next, yes. If you have some self respect, no.

[@privacyplease1556]

She has no self respect

[@mcrchickenluvr]

She was first, her son was his next victim.

[@mcrchickenluvr]

@@privacyplease1556tell me you know nothing about being abused without telling me you don’t.

[@tnnh123]

This sounds like my parents relationship and reminds me of the reason why my brother refuses to move out of my mom’s house. Yes my parents are still “together”

[@katemiller7874]

Your brother is protecting her

[@tnnh123]

@@katemiller7874 yep and he’s 26 now.

[@blueStarKitt7924]

😞😞😞 May you all be safe.🙏❤️

[@tnnh123]

@@blueStarKitt7924 thank you

[@user-pn1rx1xj5r]

@@tnnh123that has never been his job. Please seek professional help if possible. Sending you, mom, and brother love and healing 🪷

[@missgranger5362]

You are courageous. It is sometimes easier to defend your children rather than protect yourself from the abuse you suffered. I'm sad that you weren't protected by your church back then, but you can do it now for yourself. Once again, you are brave.

[@dakotasikes6690]

Nah she kept the fox in the hen house after finding his true colors

[@bexolina]

0:45 “Whaaaat?” Dr John’s initial response perfectly summarises this entire clip.

[@shannalee80]

This call was difficult to listen to. I hope she and her kids get to a safe place. And so many Christians still don’t get why deconstruction is happening with so many that grew up in the church.

[@darkfafnir4389]

Yes cause no one lies ever???😂😂🤡🤡🤡🐑🐑🐑she is a liar

[@SU-66]

My sperm donor of a dad was a narcissist. He made our lives a living hell, it got worse and worse and worse. I begged my mom to divorce his *ss but she didn’t. She hoped that he would change, she was not financially stable and he threatened to take away my little sister who was a minor at the time. After 29 f*cking years she finally snapped, got the courage and divorced him. I protected her with everything I got and secured a stable life for my family. I’m 31 years old now and am still traumatized, I have trust issues and a fear of commitment. My mom still blames herself for not divorcing him sooner. RUN girl, protect yourself and your children!

[@alizarinirazila]

I have a similar story and yet my mum won’t divorce him and deludes herself daily. It’s easier for her to believe she’s well taken care of and the abuse to my sister and I never happened and we’re lying than to see what needs to happen. It’s killing my sister and I.

[@user-ky6fi2jm9r]

Abuse will always escalate. It could be the next time or 10 years down the line, but escalation has been the consistent pattern of abusers. People can try to keep themselves in check, but under pressure, they return to actions that got them through stressful times before, i.e., substance abuse, cheating, shopping, over-eating, gambling, punching, etc..

[@insirtusernamehere]

Definitely not true. I've known many people that have issues like alcoholism, gambling, anger, etc and they have sought professional help, taken responsibility, and changed. However, the first step is being honest. If you can't admit you have a problem then change is extremely unlikely to happen.

[@user-ky6fi2jm9r]

@@insirtusernamehere Wow, that is a lot of people you know who have significant problems. I know such people through my job in health care. You wrote something key to recovery: professional help and taking full responsibility for oneself. Without either/both, I stand by experience, case files, and medical studies. Violence will escalate. As part of successful recovery, people need to develop new coping mechanisms, so that under stress, old habits don't resurface. Many have heard the old saying, once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. It is a lifestyle, not a one-off.

[@shanchan8247]

What kind of churchs are y'all going to? My pastor isn't perfect but he doesn't put up with abusive spouses. Maybe because he's also a licensed counselor 🤔

[@ipage1]

You’re kidding right ? Christianity is riddled with abusers and perverts . Your god is either watching and doing nothing cos he can’t , or cos he won’t - that god is either powerless , evil or non existent .

[@dakotasikes6690]

You'd be shocked at how many will look the other way to save face

[@vojo1461]

If you stay with someone who hurts your children, you will likely find that they grow up to hurt others or to think that it’s okay for others to hurt them.

[@ItsMeYourfavorite7]

Where is the “women break homes and initiate divorce” gang

[@ricksanchezsflask8794]

Plenty of other comment sections for them.

[@Foxie770]

Exactly. I wonder why women initiate divorce? Because men are too cowardly to admit fault, improve themselves, and change.

[@benmyers9030]

This woman thinks adhd causes people to break tvs and smashing plates is just fine for a grown woman whose son has an anger problem. Neither party seems qualified to raise children. For some reason the professional didn't seem to notice what kind of looney toon was on the phone with him

[@BigBobbyBoLo]

@@benmyers9030 so that's your medically qualified opinion?

[@CCBBAA1]

​​@@benmyers9030He is a child. Children can be difficult especially IF THEY ARE ABUSED BY THEIR FATHER. She is no doubt doing the best she can while dealing with an absolute monster who is bigger than her. She needs to get herself and her child out. I bet that kid improves drastically with some peace living with his mother and some therapy. Putting a special needs kid in the foster care system is the worst thing for him. Foster care has been proven to have pretty high abuse rates too. He needs peace with his mother and a therapist. Also if the worst thing she has done is break plates once...she's doing pretty good in an extreme abuse situation. Reactive anger is a response to abuse.

[@Lisa-7088]

Hit the "like" button folks! More people need to see this video that need help! This scenario is all to common!! Excellent advice Dr. John!! THANK YOU!!!

[@Soundsaboutreet]

The fact she has to ask this question proves that she is still brainwashed in the abuse cycle and needs to see a therapist. If you were in a healthy mindset and healed from this trauma, you would 100% know you can’t go back to an abusive partner who has abused your kid, You would be doing everything in your power to make sure they don’t come near you or your kid ever again

[@user-yy9mt6kl3h]

Perfect marriages or relationships aren't real; each one is different. What makes one person content might not make another person content. But I've discovered that there's always a solution to every problem. Five years ago, my wife and I were facing divorce because of issues in our marriage, but we managed to resolve them. It was challenging, but we made it through.

[@user-sk7kd8vs2w]

I honestly want to be happy as well. I'm in a relationship, and even though we're apart, I can't think of life without her; my love for her is deep. I really hope she comes back, and I'm fully committed to making it work. We've tried different methods, like therapy, to fix things.

[@user-yy9mt6kl3h]

Moving away from someone you hold close is invariably tough, but in my particular situation, I was supported by a spiritual counselor who prevented the unraveling of my marriage. Her name is Suzanne Ann Walters.

[@user-sk7kd8vs2w]

Thank you for this direction. I'll swiftly seek her out online. I appreciate it. I'm hopeful that following this course of action will yield results for me as well; her absence weighs heavily on my heart.

[@user-yy9mt6kl3h]

Welcome... You should

[@rheinhartsilvento2576]

Yes indeed. Sometimes the solution is leaving the relationship.

[@talkindurinthemovie]

SHE NEEDS A NEW CHURCH WHAT IN THE WORLD!!!!

[@EmmaAndEmmaAndEmma]

This poor woman needs to ditch her husband AND her church.

[@peterwilliams6361]

A perfect marriage or relationship is an illusion; there's no universal playbook for making them work. What's effective for one couple may not apply to another. Nevertheless, I've come to understand that there's always a solution to be found. Half a decade ago, my wife and I faced such trials in our marriage that divorce seemed inevitable. Yet, through perseverance and determination, we navigated through the rough waters and emerged stronger, reunited, and more resilient.

[@GregMunro]

There is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without her, I love her so much. wish I can get her back I can do anything to have her back, we have tried therapy amongst other things

[@peterwilliams6361]

Its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is shelly renee white..

[@GregMunro]

This is helpful, I will look her up online right now...Thanks.

[@peterwilliams6361]

You wont regret it

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

Nope to working through anything with a man who throws punches at children. Are you kidding me? Reconcile with a rapist? Nope.

[@danivynsteele7695]

I was severely sexually abused by a member of my church for 3yrs. He beat me to the church counsel and spread insidious lies about me. When one of my rapes got me pregnant at 14yrs old by an adult, the church turned their backs and condemned me for seeking an abortion. They witnessed him physically and verbally assault me on church grounds and did nothing. It broke my heart. It killed any sense that this was my safe place. It was all I knew but I got out…I snapped…I opened my eyes, said my piece and left. It’s been healing. I hope this woman’s considers the freedom to be had on the other side of a toxic church community.

[@debbieanderson6740]

I've had the experience with an old church where they give excuses to men because they are the head of the house. To the caller, take care of yourself and your son. You shouldn't put up with the abusive man and your son is learning that is ok by you staying. There are shelters for short term. With the help of a professional, make a plan. God Bless.

[@katemiller7874]

When I got divorced I went to my priest he said to go home and repair the relationship. I found a new church that accepted me.

[@alycewich4472]

@@katemiller7874 GOOD FOR YOU!!!

[@amde8554]

@@katemiller7874good for you

[@samuelzulu9731]

@@katemiller7874 hopefully you never remarried

[@Loruca]

my brother said something profound to me not long ago. "There are three people who shouldn't go into these careers because they want to: policemen, politicians, and pastors". The premise being those careers attract people who want power and influence. I would argue with my brother because there are perhaps some who are motivated more out of a desire to help, to serve, to protects, or whatever, the the basic statement has a lot of truth to it.

[@orielwiggins2225]

This one hit home and I'm fully on fire angry on her and her sons behalf, even while my heart breaks so much for them both. From someone who's been thru every bit of this, including the churches, wishing her and her son freedom from such diabolical mindsets and words and actions keeping them in horrific place. The two places that are supposed to be sanctuary, safe haven, are more interested in their own image and pleasure than basic needs, while those under their care are suffering at their own hands. Both are serious abusive relationships, and will have deeply damaging phycological /emotional impacts. Healing and peace, sending so much healing and peace!

[@LolaClo]

He hit his son over a TV????? A stupid TV? There is no reason to hit someone but over a replaceable piece of junk makes it even more awful! You need to distance yourself from this man and your “church” friends that don’t support you during such cruel treatment.

[@audjusushi]

My cousin's family went through something identical to this situation. Divorce him now. Get it over with now. Trying to salvage this is pointless. My aunt stayed with her abusive husband for years after he hurt their son only one time in a similar manner and their relationship never recovered. The family was fractured. The son and daughter were resentful of both parents. It took over a decade of healing and individual therapy after the divorce for everyone to heal. Divorce him now and get therapy for you and your children.

[@sandrashevel2137]

The church family shouldnt rule the marriage

[@CyeOutsider]

Then vote Democrat because that's exactly what the Republicans are going to do.

[@ashleypeed6525]

New church new friends new husband.

[@samuelzulu9731]

no

[@JanetFrisby-wl6zb]

Not new husband

[@Spaceman99966]

Those arent godly people 😔 , this is one of the reasons why on my journey of faith Im not involving a church

[@chelseabarker2250]

"Don't forsake the assembling of yourselves together." You can be a Christian and not go to church but you are cutting yourself off of God's good design. We are all the bride of Christ, not just you alone. Just find one with good leadership and strong biblical teaching, that's key. Keeping yourself out of church is usually an excuse to be antisocial and not get close enough to anyone to see your own flaws. Which you actually need. "Confess your sins to one another and pray for each other that you may be healed." Also, you have gifts given by the Spirit that are "for the building up of the Body." Staying away from that calling is similar to hiding your talent in the ground. Hope this is encouraging, I know tone is hard to read in black and white. Blessings on your journey here! ❤

[@Spaceman99966]

@@chelseabarker2250 I appreciate your words , but being alone and contemplating my own thoughts is how I've seen my flaws and come to faith. But like in regular life I keep a small circle, so in my religious views I have not found a church or leader that matches my views. I'm not into the cringe pastors of today , they are casting a wide net to work for the masses and I don't think like the masses , that's exactly why I found faith and didn't stick to my atheistic views

[@Void0420]

@@chelseabarker2250omg stop

[@chelseabarker2250]

@@Spaceman99966 it's not just my words, it's what is in the Bible. The body needs people who think differently too. You don't have to join a mega church with a cringe pastor. There are many good fellowships to be found wherever you are with people really led by the Spirit. But it sounds like you have been looking and I know there may honestly not be anything great nearby. Just don't forget Christ died for His bride, so don't so quickly discount her importance. We don't need to debate, just throwing some verses out for your consideration. You can google search them and find them in the Bible for yourself. The quoted words should pop up right away. Blessings!

[@chelseabarker2250]

@@Void0420 A+B conversation lol

[@user-wv6ld6nf1w]

Truly believe what his behavior and actions tell you. He is shouting he doesn't love or respect you or your son. His words will say different but his actions ultimately tell you everything. Be strong, you and your son deserve so much more from life. If you go back, you help to teach your son that this is how nen behave and this is how women should be treated. Protect that young man and show him another way. Be kinder to yourself, choose a healthier, happy path for you too.

[@blueStarKitt7924]

YES.🙏❤️

[@tmxgurl]

Short answer: NO.

[@joshuamullins827]

Long answer : No way!

[@JustaNobody-j8x]

Medium answer: Never

[@dabd8175]

Real answer is yes

[@izzywox8246]

@@dabd8175real for who? Spineless dabs? Yes you personally should be with someone who abuses and berates you 😂😂😂 find a woman or man who will show your worth, crying in the dirt

[@trishasurangana2278]

​@@dabd8175why, you got punched to death by your dad and you're typing this from hell now?

[@JC-bs5pd]

People saying the mom is enabling and taking it too far. The father is an abuser, he has anger issues, this is not the first time he has been physically violent, and he has r@ped his wife previously. Him being violent with her son was her breaking point. The same church members telling her to reconcile are the same ones who told her what happened wasn’t r@pe bc they are married.

[@alizarinirazila]

Right, she has been a victim so long that she might not be able to see things clearly, and him hurting her child was the thing that finally shattered all of the lies and showed her the truth. When you’ve never been through the manipulation of a person like this, it’s easy to see the flaws and point fingers, but she’s been stuck in this cycle for years.And when you have zero support and only one or two friends who tell you the truth, that makes it worse

[@lilys7431]

Not likely to change, been there done that, waited didn’t get any better.

[@chasepeters6866]

Abuse is a pattern, not a one-off. Reconciliation doesn’t need to look like restitution.

[@alizarinirazila]

I’m going to take that line, thank you. My mother is trying to push my sister and I to “reconcile” with my stepfather who abused us all, but to her that looks like everything suddenly being “perfect” again and with me not standing up for myself.

[@chernagast6754]

I was in the same position. I took a lot of abuse. Way more than I ever should have, because I was isolated and my family were abusive. When he went after our son, that was it. It was over.

[@AgentClaytonWebb]

My mother stood up for her abusive husband (my father), she wasn’t great either, 12 years past his death now and I still don’t forgive her for keeping him around, allowing him to bully and abuse his daughters and don’t forgive her for her continued abuse… protect your children, parents!

[@samuelzulu9731]

thats your problem, sadly

[@josefmatus8904]

What a chilling call. Dr. John is 100% right. You are worth more than this. You do you. The church doesnt have your best interest at hearth.

[@jeremym8490]

The government needs to start shutting these chirches down.

[@robertandkristinhall5006]

No matter how much you love someone it is very very difficult to want to be intimate with someone who is treating you like crap. You want to berate me all night and then expect me to want to please you? Hell no. It is an awful feeling. Then the next morning they act like everything is okay and nothing bad happened. They make you feel crazy. It is horrible. I feel for this lady.

[@AprilReignsHere78]

I agree . 😢💯

[@Marlene-c1q]

I HATE organized religion. Unreal what this woman went through. And YES, it IS common in churches to treat women this way..

[@brenda121143]

Church and the people in it are not always sacrosanct . Although many of them think they are above reproach. Do not fall for it. You need to protect your children and yourself

[@jesssc402]

Heeellll NOOOO

[@unknownmangafreak]

"I just keep hoping they are going to change" said about her church... As a church going Christian, I find that statement so odd, sounds like she is in a cult to me. Btw John you need to be comfortable telling people that sometimes there aren't things that can be done to fix a relationship. The first requirement for a marriage to survive is respect and this man has no respect for her or her body. This marriage isn't fixable because it doesn't exist. The man next to her isn't a husband but an enemy in her house.

[@themurderbotfeed7688]

If you reconcile with your husband you are failing your child and the kid will need a protection order against BOTH of you. People have failed you when they said what he did was ok, dont do that to your kid too.

[@4elevendyno]

I'm so sorry she had to go through that. I had a similar situation when I was married in 2002 lasted a year. I told no one until this year to my psychologist and I am now 55. Coming to grips with it is hard. I work with him and his wife he cheated with on me is my boss. Im so done here but I have less than a year and I can leave. I hope and pray she heals from this.

[@alycewich4472]

Find others who can help you. Ask yourself, is it worth it to stay for another few months or would it be better for you if you took your chances and left today? Only YOU can make that choice. I stayed because I thought I had to and didn't see that I would have had any outside support. It may have helped change my trajectory if I had left sooner. It worked out OK but there are times that I recognize the abuse that became more intense later in my marriage that I could possibly have avoided. But sometimes we have to choose our hard. That was mine.

[@4elevendyno]

@alycewich4472 I will have 30 years in and vested in IPERS retirement. I've tried other positions in the state agency but cannot get a position or even an interview .

[@lildoyle9776]

So glad you added the financial piece bc so many people never do that can keep people trapped

[@stevenroshni1228]

That's just an excuse people give. DV shelters exist and also have resources for food, clothing, etc.

[@katie0303]

The caller needs to rescue herself and her son. I really do feel for kids who have to live through this kind of hell. It's not fair, they didn't ask for it. I hope she does the right thing - for both of them. The greatest gift you can give a child is a calm, safe and loving home. Stop the insanity. Dad isn't going to change.

[@ericaexplainsitall2135]

This is the reason why I believe in Christ but will never go to a “ church” again. Too many of these situations

[@reneeantwi-boasiako3974]

As a Believer, I am so grieved and enraged at how that 'church' handled this. I'm so so sorry 🙏🏿❤️

[@carmennurse8641]

Now I understand why many young people refuse to attend any church.

[@Shann0nxo]

I'm a Christian and I can't believe her church isn't giving her support and protecting her physically, spiritually and mentally...but instead saying it's her fault and taking her husband's side. That is sick. I hope she finds a different church and takes herself and her son far far away from that man.

[@sassysister8552]

I hope she knows how incredibly strong she is and starting to take her power back is so incredibly brave and only the beginning of a peaceful, calm, happier life. Any religion that condones abuse in any form should not even be allowed to exist in my opinion thats cultist behavior, um simply sick!

[@privacyplease1556]

She has no backbone

[@nataliestark8243]

Don't do it. I'm in a similar position. Looking to get the order extended. Filed for divorce. Your safety and your child's safety is more important. Look into therapy / counseling for your son.

[@rachelboyer9186]

My sweet strong lady, be safe and keep your child safe, because that will be something that your child holds dear. You are worth SO MUCH MORE than what has been dealt to you! Hold your baby close and continue to say that NONE of this is their fault, your child’s job at this point in their life is to be just that, a child. Be safe and be strong, not just for your child but for you ❤

[@georgiasmathers4503]

I can hear it in her voice. She won't leave him.