Should You Buy A Chinese Tourbillon?

[@moneymikz]

For less than $250 I can’t complain about my Aesop. I love staring at it and the bracelet feels sturdy and is very high quality

[@Peacfull]

I just placed an order for the Night Spider Tourbillon form Ideal Knight.

[@StepDub]

Many thanks for this valuable information. not a collector, but I really enjoy seeing the workings of a mechanical watch. My wife bought me an inexpensive skeleton watch and it is fascinating to see the movement of the escapement, and to be able to judge if it needs wind by examining the extension of the mainspring. Unfortunately, it does not appear to have been designed to optimally show the rotation of the other gears and components and does not include any other complications, like a date or second hand. What I would like to own is a skeleton watch that has these additional functions and is also designed to display the movements and watchmakers skill to best effect. Can anyone recommend a reliable and reasonably priced example? The actual brand doesn’t really matter, but I wouldn’t mind stretching the budget for something recognisable.

[@RAVI171175]

Chinese or not, I haven't got any problem with any of my Chinese watches for these past 10 years as they are still doing fine and as a humble watch collector, recently, I'm seeing myself being more attracted to Chinese watches because I get value for money and each brand that I buy gives to me a different taste as they are indeed very beautiful pieces. They are very affordable and I wear a different watch brand for different dress code wherever I go. They are also head turners as very often, people have asked me from where I bought them as they are indeed very beautiful. For me, It's just a matter of taste and what you are looking for in the watch you buy. Aside of all these, I'm very selective about my Chinese watches as I don't buy many buy few which are of quality.

[@seanmurray5425]

Just wondering if you have any information on the (ideal knight) which are a tourbillion automatic watch as I'm instructed in buy one but there's little information on them, Or people giving their review on them.

[@ImpulsiveWatches]

They have a website outside of aliexpress that does give a company backstory if you try googling them. You're right in that I can't find any reviews either but then, if they sell domestically, I wouldn't be able to read them even if I found them.

[@fbfnfjkckcm9717]

What are your opinions on the brand Haofa?

[@ImpulsiveWatches]

I'd be amazed if anyone had ever paid their actual RRP that's for sure. A lot of their stuff is homage based and over-designed, but they do have a couple of models that are genuinely quite good just a little too big for me - The Simple Tourbillon features in some of the imagery of this video, the one that has a completely plain dial, which is very H.Moser & Cie in style. The other one is the Gooseneck Automatic, which seems to have a really well finished movement for the price and has some decent styling compared to most of their output. I believe both are 42mm which is too big for me, but I would definitely have bought the simple tourbillon over mine if it were smaller and comparative in price.

[@KEITHLAWRENCE-pk8zc]

I like the noise it makes -bit like a small motorcycle engine...

[@karanjain5663]

My brand new seagull tourbillion was defective - this may have just been luck. But the return process with the official dealer was a nightmare. So for the money, I'll pass. Also, I doubt any watchmaker outside China would service it and after a few years it'll become useless unfortunately.

[@Pieter.T]

Hi, thank you for your video. I own a Weishi 1900 timegrapher and it works great for hobbiest/enthousiasts, they also seem to be accurate enough for that purpose (i'm a hobbiest watchmaker). And a lot better affordable than the (very) expensive Swiss Witschi brand. I see a lot of other youtuber watchmakers use the Weishi's aswell.

[@ImpulsiveWatches]

Thank you very much for this, I'll be looking into it

[@micaljimenez7381]

Why not...of course for this price we dont have to hope a very long life but who know,we can have good sorprise

[@sandyw9357]

You get a year warranty lol Rolex and most brands onky offer 2 years. In fact grand seiko only offer 7 years and they aren’t even considered luxurious by Swiss watch snobs. Also these tourbillons AT WORST CASE ARE 30x cheaper, at best 1000x cheaper

[@AMERICANPRIDE1100]

I’ve had one for 10 yrs still works perfect

[@BoboacaDoxaras]

God!!! AMZWATCH Who would have thought those gorgeous watches go for that low!!!

[@dr.kevinmoore8889]

I bought an AGELOCER Turbillon. It took 28 days to arrive and when it did it was running several hours a day fast. I checked and it's not magnetized. I sent their customer service and video of it and they replied with this Thank you for providing your order number and the video. Based on our initial assessment, there doesn't appear to be a significant quality issue with the watch. If there's a large time discrepancy, it may be due to the watch being impacted during transport, which could have displaced the balance spring speed regulator clamp. "We recommend taking it to a local watch repair shop for calibration. We can cover $20-$30 of the repair costs as compensation. Please let us know how you would like to proceed!" Thing is, I don't have a local watchmaker and I can't find anyone who will even look at a Turbillon. They said it could send it back for repair but that would cost $169. So it just sits on my table.

[@ImpulsiveWatches]

That sounds like an absolute nightmare 😓

[@nightvoyager1]

Times have changed now! Chinese have UP their Horology game. Their Tourbillon and other automatic unique timepieces are of high quality and workmanship. Experienced myself.

[@jarjeesdr2734]

Great review thank you

[@SchafeyWafey]

Shame you didn't mention the 3 axis giga tourbillon - JLC have some amazing ones. Defo a great item to have, just to hold

[@sandyw9357]

Yep seagull the movement maker of this watch also make triple axis tourbillons for $5-10k and even minute repeaters

[@KilchevSky]

It's a "Sea-Gull" movement, so it's fine.

[@sandyw9357]

Oh haha you mean that Chinese brand that’s been around since 1955? The watch brand which was the first to showcase its watch during the -40C temps of Antarctica for weeks on end? The company chose by the Chinese govt to make movements for the Chinese military and Air Force? The company that also creates its own minute repeaters and triple axis tourbillons rather than using 3rd party movements like big names did up untill 30 years ago or so while seagull always used their own? Ah ok lol

[@SoeUnfiltered]

That's the one 💪💪💪​@@sandyw9357

[@ccooper8785]

You could have added "it would be cheaper to buy a replacement watch rather than to try and have any Chinese mechanical watch repaired or serviced". We all know that sub £500 mechanical watches are a fad that will end up abandoned in drawers as soon as they require servicing due to the costs involved; this included all the Seiko 5's and cheaper Citizens that have become popular again in the past few years.

[@jamesrindley6215]

There are people who will service mechanical watches for much less than £100 if you look at lower income countries. You can either get the watch fixed when you travel there for work or vacation, or you can send it off, there are people offering this service on ebay for instance. I've had 3 watches serviced in Taiwan (not a particularly low income country BTW) but nevertheless the cost came in under £100 per watch and I'm happy with the results.

[@joshuabroo]

Anytime someone says, "we all know," you can guarantee there's nothing to know. I've paid $300 to have a pair of $150 boots resoled before. Why, because I like the boots. I don't like new boots. i'd rather pay more for my boots. Crazy? I just put value in different places. I assume some people feel the same way about their watches. I know I do.

[@jamesrindley6215]

@@joshuabroo Exactly. The value of an object to you has nothing to do with what someone else might pay for it. In the case of a watch, it's about the pleasure you get from owning and wearing it that decides if it's worth whatever it costs to refurbish it.

[@RideLow883-fk9gv]

Yes. Should buy one, bec Chinese make it affordable for everyone❤

[@SuperBANDIT68]

if you want precisión time keep buy a quartz and for me the tubillon its just a visual gimmick used to justify the nonsense prices they ask for them and on wrist watches has no effect or Little

[@aternialaffsalot]

it is for show, everybody already knows this

[@gregtolley3455]

Ailang:A.Lange lol. Took me a minute to see what they were doing.

[@Lifeperhour94]

The noise has nothing to do with the build quality it’s because it’s a 28,800bph high beat.

[@ImpulsiveWatches]

It's quite difficult for me to convey on video because my sound recording equipment just isn't good enough, but on a quiet day you could hear this quite clearly from the next room. There's no way it should be that loud surely?

[@BartMan59]

I was SHOCKED to see on Sugess's website their tourbillon's are being offered on precious metals and selling for well over $40+K. Lastly, any tourbillon by ANY watch manufacturer is actually useless and a gimmick.

[@Tjalie-j6i]

Yes, buy one 😃👍.

[@uweinhamburg]

The first question should be: should i buy a Tourbillon? And when you have good reasons for it you could go on with: would a Chinese one do?

[@FullJikama]

Well I have 4 Chinese tourbillons so far and I’m happy.

[@peterlandbo2726]

Hmmm, and then comes the day when it needs it's first servicing....

[@ImpulsiveWatches]

🤣

[@cwe3874]

That depends on how You think uppon this topic... For example: Servicing an automatic Omega watch cost you around 800. That should last for let's say 7 years. A chinese Sugess/Seagull tourbillon cost around 600 on Amazon. Including 3 years total waranty against every damage. So - for the price of the service you get 1-2 new tourbillon watches from China. Which could last let's say 7 years when using it regularely.

[@sandyw9357]

Lol and??? It’s not as tho it uses exotic engineering techniques lol the principles are the same just like pre EFI cars. Plus they will service it by sending it to them….. for dirt cheap compared to $5k to change a gasket on a $15k Rolex

[@diggr13]

You can buy a Chinese tourbillon that says Trump on it for $100,000.

[@ImpulsiveWatches]

I genuinely considered ordering one of his watches to review for a laugh, but he seems the type who would actually take legal action or at least threaten it 🤣

[@Tjalie-j6i]

​@@ImpulsiveWatches Yes, highly likely xD.

[@SoeUnfiltered]

​@@ImpulsiveWatchesNow that he's president, he probably won't care.

[@ImpulsiveWatches]

@@SoeUnfiltered He doesn't look the type to forget a grudge to be fair xD

[@Tjalie-j6i]

Yeah, but thee came from China&India and Thee time was invented in the Netherlands not good ol Blighty as was the clipper design boats that brought the thee to Europe. It just didn't take off here because we loved coffee more, still its touted as a very British thing, and we Dutch are just fine with that, so the Tourbillon remains French/Swiss,... hands off m8 ;).

[@alexjatti6585]

Quality build is lowest if the lowest. "Instead of servicing it, buy a new one"

[@ImpulsiveWatches]

Well, not just that but a lot of high street jewellers won't necessarily know how to either, and it's going to be quite costly to send to a specialist.

[@sandyw9357]

Lol you speak as tho you have experience with Chinese watches, know about movements and have repaired one before. The dunning Kruger is real! All good, you can pay $10k for a date just with crappy hidden movement (which were all outsourced not too long ago) and get charged $1400 to replace the glass

[@alexjatti6585]

@@sandyw9357 spot on, i'm a watchsmith, since the amount of people buying replicas is huge, i have an increasing number of customer bringing me their newly purchased "super clones" in a non working condition from the box. Do those count as chinese watches?

[@vikpandit8090]

IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO WASTE

[@aternialaffsalot]

money to waste would be dumping a six figure dollar value on a tourbillon and end up homeless, when you can just get something like this for a fraction of the cost

[@sandyw9357]

Then buy a Rolex! You know, the one which most ppl buy so you can’t stand out, has no personality, is bought just because you think you are cool or simping to a chick

[@PersianCamel]

you would do well in avoiding any chinese product if you're looking for quality.

[@Chag69420]

The idea of Chinese designed and manufactured luxury goods makes me throw up in my mouth a little.

[@aternialaffsalot]

racist

[@sandyw9357]

Lol it’s ppl like you who buy the real stuff for 500x the price tho! Remember Beats by Dre? Clowns like you would wear em to show superiority yet couldn’t tell how crappy the sound was yet they were built for $22 in china 😂, or what about Swiss watches where onky 60% needs to be made in Switzerland to bear the mark. I suppose you knew that all Swiss manafacturers started by copying French, British and German pocket watch makers and even used 3rd party movements untill the late 80s. Your Swiss watch… why onky 2 year warranty? Even the Chinese watches comes with 1 year? Also seagull have made their own movements since 1955 and were the official watches of the military and Air Force and was used for weeks on end in -40c temps in Antarctica… Yet ppl are afraid to dive in their Swiss dive watches??😂

[@ashocck8065]

Don't buy watches because they look like much more expensive watches. You are wasting your money. Usually this happens with people who are new in the watch hobby. Save up and buy something that you will actually enjoy for a while and even if you collect watches for a long time after, you will not be looking at that watch and thinking that it's a complete piece of garbage. Also, don't buy Chinese watches. They are various degrees of crap. Some are relatively inoffensive, like bird droppings. Others, however, are giant steaming piles produced by humans who appear on My 600 pound life.

[@aternialaffsalot]

racist

[@ashocck8065]

@@aternialaffsalot That's cute.

[@sandyw9357]

Lol no it’s not, don’t repeat something you’ve heard before it’s such a narrow minded POV. Buy a watch for the reasons you want! There are many Chinese watches which I like the aestethics off MUCH MORE THAN SWISS BRANDS. I mean let’s be honest… the nautilus, aquanaut and most other pateks are rather ugly or boring. AP look tacky. but ppl like them because ppl like them. Breguet, glaschutte, benzinger, chronoswiss, all have more interesting looking watches. Some ppl might want the aesthetic, others might want the complication, others might want a variety, some might hate dive watches, some like hybrid, some might like hand painted work, some might like guilloche. Price doesn’t equate to what you are looking at in a watch and if I was to get the watch I want which is a guilloche dial with 2 tourbillons the only option I have is breguet at over 100k (probably be over 250k if the brand was AP OR PP) but I can get one for $3k. Just remember your watch if it’s a $100k Rolex probably has a 2 year warranty… that’s enough to tell me about the value. The Chinese watches have 1 year. Don’t be mad at us. We prefer value, be mad at the expensive brands offering a pitiful 2 year warranty… imagine that breaking after 2 years when they can overcharge $5k just for a gasket, or like older models can refuse to fix them at all!

[@ashocck8065]

@@sandyw9357 FYI, my favorite watches are German, not Swiss. Generally speaking, Swiss watches are way overpriced. German watches offer similar and sometimes better quality at significantly lower prices. Also, Seiko is an excellent brand, with a wide range of prices fitting different budgets. Chinese watches are basically a waste of money. You might enjoy them for a short period of time, but in the long run, you will realize you bought garbage.

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