Should You Ditch a MacBook for an M4 iPad Pro?

[@TerrenRule]

What would you rather use? An iPad Pro or MacBook Pro? (you can only pick one)

[@mrmartywaring]

MacBook Pro. An iPad can handle about 80% of what I do. However, the things the iPad can't handle are important to me

[@mikemartins3297]

Used both. I’d rather have the MacBook learn term than the iPad. The operating system is the reason. I can do more on the macOS than iPadOS. 😊 I love my iPad more tho.

[@Langkinhsaigon-SaigonHoloscope]

Last week: both = Ipad Pro M2 12,9 wifi + macbook Pro M3 Pro 18/512 Now: also both = Ipad Pro M4 13 wifi + macmini M2 16/256 Never use the 4/5G cause found it not really necessary as now we have wifi everywhere :)

[@bhadams1]

I almost don’t want either. I have a Mac Mini M1 and the latest iPad Mini. I just traded in my MBA M1 because I was considering trading in one of my current device for either a MBA M3 or iPad Pro M4 11. But if I had to pick, and if the price and specs were the same (to include Apple Pencill Pro and Magic Keyboard) I would go for an iPad Pro. I feel like for an upgrader, it’s a pickle. But for a first time user, it is a little easier to decide.

[@Maui2Boise]

I would suggest the answer comes down to needs. We tend to look at it based on OUR needs thus your comment about needing a MacBook for video creation. I think that for most non tech folks, a cheap 10th gen iPad would ABSOLUTELY fill all their needs better than a fully decked out 3000.00 MacBook Pro. How do I know this? My wife is “most people” and her iPad Air with keyboard is all she needs so much that a MacBook would serve ZERO benefit to her. Heck I have a MacBook with a login for her that she has NOT USED ONCE in the 3 years since I got her the iPad. Not me, I am a geek like you. But you and I are not “most people”. Those types aren’t making KZbin videos. Funny thing is that people who NEED more than an iPad tend to KNOW they need more than an iPad. Therefore, I would say the OPPOSITE is true. MOST PEOPLE would find greater utility in the greater versatility of an iPad as a pencil note-taking, day-planning, handheld couch surfing, ereading, video watching, keyboard when needed for documents, device. While a MacBook is needed for complex tasks, and iPad has a far greater range of simpler tasks that benefit anyone. My wife’s iPad replacing her paper Bible as an example is more important than ANYTHING a MacBook does. Most folks are not rendering videos off an sd card and creating complex excel formulas , with 6 open windows. EVER. Most people who don’t know whether a Mac or iPad is a better single device are better served with an iPad. I would further suggest that comments on tech videos generally are from techies who tend to have both. I don’t think we are making that choice. I mentioned the Bible. I am kind of the tech minister in a congregation of maybe a hundred fifty people. Some know tech. They know what they need. Most who ask iPad versus Mac/PC? I ask what they do and 90 percent of the time I’d recommend iPad. How bout your next video be about comments like mine advocating iPad first opinions. I think it would do well.

[@PSy84]

there are popular youtubers who only edit videos using iPad withhundreds to millions of followers. After all, it's more on the content than how complex a software is used.

[@PSy84]

I agree, most people will be ok with iPad esp it has Netflix and all the basic pro apps. Canva AI, Google Sheets, Lumafusion etc are good enough.

[@actnreact1321]

A ipad could never be feasible enough for me i have both and the m1max macbook pro is a better alternative for professional video editors and even KZbinrs especially if your editing for more then 8 hrs like me the ipad gets hot after editing around the 5 hours mark of nonstop editing. i do a complex workflow with node trees and color grading masking and a mix of transitions i dont really work with animations but even for most people who are youtubers who edit for hours on end the ipad is true to be a great choice but if you edit long enough youll see when throttling happens and applications like final cut and davinci show there issues

[@RobUKTH]

I love the portability / on the go use of the iPad compared to a laptop. Left my MBP at home for the first time, for a 3mth trip to Asia. To my surprise it turned out to be no problem at all! There were a few initial work arounds to begin with. Just plug my iPad into an external display for any heavy duty work. Now the M4 iPad Pro totally replaces my old MBP. No more lugging heavy laptops and charging bricks! 👍😎

[@vlad2718]

Physics PhD: - iPad Pro 13 for everything (notes, papers, remote coding, mails, scheduling) - Mac Mini as a python server (this way, it can just run uninterrupted even when I travel, basically no battery drain and can just use external storage (the fastest 2tb ssd + enclosure costs same as 0.5Tb from Apple). For me, this is perfection. Seriously, I really found it, boyz.

[@GSJ_TV]

AGREED!

[@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr]

Agreed also

[@dalejones146]

I use the M1 and now M4 iPad Pro as my portable computer and have an M1 Max Mac Studio for any heavy lifting I might need. I'm semi retired; once I'm fully retired, I might be able to just use the iPad Pro as my only computer.

[@TheNetflixNook]

This hybrid setup is a great middle ground for a lot of people. Myself included. I went iPad Pro and m2 pro mac mini.

[@RionRobinson]

Sounds like an incredible setup. I’m considering getting a Mac mini to replace my MacBook Pro 14. My M4 iPad Pro is becoming the best thing for me.

[@peraman2022]

I have the M1 IPad Pro 12.9, as well as an M2 Max Mac Studio. An excellent combo I would say.

[@pj9398]

Thanks

[@Langkinhsaigon-SaigonHoloscope]

Thanks for the interesting clip, bro! I just bought an iPad Pro M4 13 WiFi a couple of days ago to upgrade from the iPad Pro M2 12.9. I also sold my 6-month-old MacBook Pro M3Pro 18/512. Here are the reasons: The iPad Pro has been my go-to device for almost 2 years now, especially since Apple provides a powerful 12.9-inch iPad Pro. It handles most robust tasks efficiently. I tried using the MacBook Pro again but found it wasn't really worth the money for my usage, so I traded it for a combo: Mac Mini M2 16/256 (for indoor tasks) and the iPad Pro M4. I edit and produce my KZbin clips on LumaFusion, and I found it performs better on the iPad Pro than on the MacBook Pro. Bonus points: the super nice and clear Tandem OLED display and the wonderful luxurious New Magic Keyboard. Voilà! I'm now very satisfied with my choice, and life has never been better! 🥰

[@patrickgamboa7270]

I'm a hardcore note taker with PDFs/website blogs/books on the side and with my Apple Notes besides it, and project task management with my apps like Todoist, Things 3 and Notion, so I feel so work this small, its great on my iPad Pro whenever I go outside and work at a coffee shop, plus carrying my Anker powerbank, I won't need to carry around my heavy Macbook Pro around and also worry about finding a nearby outlet around

[@jackjmaheriii]

1. I like this reviewer a lot. I’m going to sub his channel. 2. There is a kind of pro reviewers always forget about that an iPad is perfect for, and that’s the guy with a semi-blue collar job. Go to the job site, take a bunch of photos, put some marks on them, shoot it off to your subs in 1/2 the time. 3. The other is Grandma. It’s easy to use, easy for you to be tech support, and hard to lose.

[@TheNetflixNook]

I went with the weird middle ground. An IPad 12.9 M2 and a M2 Pro Mac Mini. Got them both on great deals and haven’t been happier.

[@OceanTomkins-f5y]

I just bought the mac😊 mini m2 and bought the ipad pro m4. I'm not convinced on the mac mini yet. What I do love with Apple over another brand, Samsung. Apples after service care are better than any other product.

[@Annette_Hons]

Had a mini years ago and LOVED it, Currently considering purchasing one if it actually comes out in October as predicted. OR may just go with the current model as it will be discounted and still great for my needs

[@TheNetflixNook]

@@Annette_Hons the new m4 Mac mini sounds amazing. They’re saying it’s going to be even smaller and more compact. If that’s the case and the price stays low I might honestly switch 😂😂🤣🤣

[@gstevens6948]

It’s the best device I’ve ever checked my email on, watched KZbin videos, check the weather and news in my life! 😂❤

[@pimisi]

Your comparison review is the best I've seen: very reasonable and constructive.

[@jreid2171]

Would you recommend i pad pro over the S tab plus ultra, very tied among the two

[@pj9398]

Great review!! I’m 47 and the iPad Pro is exactly what I always needed..My teenage kids have the Macbook pros and perfect for them.

[@Johnmims65]

I got the m4 iPad Pro 13 for the tandem oled display.

[@knutvonheim3838]

Thanks for this one! A well produced video with rational content very well presented! Your conclusion and advice where reasoned and proper, too.

[@Theinspirationalrogue]

Definitely not, I’ve tried I can’t and I’m a simple user. The most annoying part is that Safari itself still has issues running certain websites, such as government, education, and even simple things like renewing your insurance discount, it can’t manage certain pages of the renewal form on safari. I even tried other browsers and even the ones with flash, and it’s still all the same thing. No, iPad is still pretty good for a lot of productivity situations, but I’d rather it have it as a assistive tablet to my MacBook.

[@luisq125]

I think the better comparison is the MacBook Air and the iPad Pro since they’re both around the same price

[@Greatscott24]

Not after the Magic Keyboard. Much closer in price to the MBP at that point.

[@luisq125]

@@Greatscott24 hence why it makes a great comparison.. cause with the Air you get the same M chip and dont need to buy keyboard.. why would you get the pro when the Air can do it for 300 dollars less

[@chrismv102]

At the end of the day if you get a iPad you're stuck in iPadOS. "research on a iPad"? How would you get the info out? Text files? Sharing? All harder on a iPad.

[@trentgilliam5192]

It’s all about workflow habits. I’ve been using an iPad as my main device since 2015. In that time I completed my MA. All my “research” and lessons are still being done on an 12.9 iPad. Again, it all comes down to what you’re used to using.

[@Illair_V]

There’s tons of apps for iPad including word…. It’s not that basic anymore.

[@Rfhuir343]

To get information out on an iPad, you can easily share and export files via cloud services like iCloud, Google Drive, SMB, and Dropbox, or use AirDrop to transfer files to other Apple devices. Text files and other documents can be saved and shared in various formats, ensuring compatibility and ease of access across different platforms. The workflow is different to what you’d expect on a traditional desktop but once you are use to that it’s like second nature.

[@mosijahi3096]

Sounds like you don’t know that much about an iPad and your usage has been limited.

[@ClashofTitans001]

A very honest comparison review. And you are right, iPads are luxury tech items but they can be bloody useful and easy to use for certain type of workflows. iPadOS as an OS is still at its infancy. It might eventually mature like MacOS but it will take time.

[@DomainObject]

Ummm… it’s been 14 years. How much more time does Apple need?

[@PSy84]

@@DomainObjectumm, iPad OS started in 2019

[@DomainObject]

@@PSy84 Don’t fall for the marketing. iPadOS is a rebranded iOS variant for the iPad, and it was started in 2010 when the iPad was introduced. 14. Years. Ago.

[@Aggie4life77]

The mistake that I see people Make is that they keep wanting to push the iPad to be a computer. If you think of it as a tablet that can do computer type things, you will appreciate it more. With that said, if you need an actual computer to get things done, get a Mac. In that case, a tablet might be useless to you. If you’re in a situation where you work from home and your company provides you with a laptop, but you don’t want to do personal things on it, an iPad is perfect for you as your personal home device. There are other use cases for iPads that make it a possible buy, it these scenarios are going to be what most people find themselves in.

[@khoifoto]

Spot on! You can’t just detach the screen from your macbook to do tablet things.

[@segura9]

Is it much to ask for the IPad to have a decent filing system?

[@khoifoto]

@@segura9 That is a quite a lot to ask because developers will need to rewrite their apps all together. Quite a challenge.

[@RavageX2]

That was beautifully said. The iPad does break its promise compared to a MacBook. I did get the 13 inch m4 and I love using as my main consumption device. But when it comes to work, it can’t. That’s when I’ll defer to something not necessarily more powerful, but something more capable like my Razer 17. As much as I’d like the 13, I think it’s does what it’s suppose to do great. Being the bridge between my iPhone and Computer. And that’s why I returned the Magic Keyboard. I felt it was trying to be more laptop like when it shouldn’t.

[@khoifoto]

It depends on your work. For me, iPad is an extension of the Mac and works best together.

[@arcreatordigitalagency9235]

I have a MacBook Pro M1 for video editing with Final Cut. Is the iPad Pro M4 better, should I buy the ipad pro M4 to replace my MacBook M1?

[@smokey123-1]

is that m3 max macbook 14 inch?

[@errole]

You can’t buy an app one and done. They can also remove those apps and you won’t have it no more. On a Mac that’s not the case. Everything on iPad is dependent on an app and if it doesn’t work you are screwed. But on a Mac you can download the app.dmg file and be good to go.

[@geoffreyagaskins302]

Incredibly helpful analysis. Thanks!

[@heythere6246]

If you can afford a 13” M4 iPad Pro at 512GB with its magic keyboard and apple pencil pro which cost rougly around 1847USD (education offer), then you can definitely afford a 256GB iPad 10 at 479USD with it apple pencil and a 15” mba at 16GB of unified memory and 512GB of SSD at around 2078USD.. an extra 231USD worth the investment as a university student.. if it is too much, get an M1 macbook air to pair it with the iPad air which cost lesser than to get a 13” M4 iPad pro.. If you are doing arts, then the iPad pro is pretty much a solid choice, but if you don’t need the fluidity or drawing feature on the software limited powerful machine aka iPad pro, just go w mba + ipad air/ipad… ends up saving more money which u can use on other necessities.. ❤correct me if im wrong

[@heythere6246]

You won’t need a magic keyboard if you got a macbook with ur ipad.. there’s a feature where u can type on ur ipad by using macbook keyboard if they r side by side and the trackpad is going to work on ur ipad too.

[@housepianist]

Here's the problem with videos like this - it essentially comes from one perspective, a content creator who “needs” a more feature-rich computer to do the tasks required of it. And because the iPad Pro has an OS that is different from that for the Mac, it always seems to be downplayed. In my opinion, this is an unfair criticism of the iPad because while both devices can perform many similar functions, each one has its own niches. Sure, the Macbook is certainly more robust and can handle some applications more efficiently but the iPad Pro has its own niche for many professions. It just depends on one’s needs. However, no one seems to talk about professional uses for the iPads. Many, many students use iPads, many professionals use iPads, many content creators use iPads. It’s an optimized system that can take advantage of a large number of apps that are used in a “professional” manner. Schools, hospitals, emergency personnel, artists, musicians, etc, all of which have their own degree of professional usage, use iPads. Just because most of them don’t make videos or use CAD (as an example), doesn’t minimize the iPad’s purpose and function. So stop downgrading the iPad simply because it can’t do a handful of very specfic applications as well as the Mac. “Professional” is relative. And thousands of people use iPads for important occupations as well as for leisure time. That’s equally as legitimate as those “professionals” that require the functions of Macbooks. Perhaps you can focus on other professions that can benefit from iPads and show that it is a bonafide device with real-world usage without downgrading it because it’s “not a Mac” or doesn’t use MacOS.- or function like MacOS. But then maybe all of your subscribers are professional content creators and software engineers? I’m sure we know what most of them will use. Too bad for the rest of us plebs. 🤷‍♂️

[@Annette_Hons]

I have used both for years. My iPad Pro 12.9" (2020) is still going strong and was going to replace it. My MacBook Air M1 (also 2020) still going strong. After a few weeks of comparing, I decided to upgrade my MacBook Air to the M3 13" rather than upgrade my iPad Pro. For the same price for both, the MacBook Air M3 just made more sense for the money and ability. If I replaced my iPad Pro - which I have a magic keyboard for and the Apple Pencil, I would also have to replace my magic keyboard as the new iPad Pro is NOT compatible with older magic keyboards; and I would have to replace my pencil, because the pencil also is not compatible with the new iPad Pro. So to get a new MacBook Air M3 in the spec I wanted was $1299. To Replace my iPad Pro would be $1299 for the 13", $129 for the Pencil and $349 for the magic keyboard for a total of $1777 BEFORE TAX! The MacBook Air has for more capabilities than the iPad Pro for the money. Its a no brainer to get a MacBook over the iPad. I love both and both serve a purpose, but overall the MacBook Air M3 wins for me! Its just a portable as an iPad and far more capable. I also traded in my old MacBook Air M1 and got money back from Apple which offset the price of my new MacBook Air, so after the refund for my trade in my new MacBook Air M3 only cost $899! Now I could have done the same with my iPad and traded it in, and overall my end price would have been $1377 for the iPad Pro, keyboard and pencil. BUT then I would have been stuck with an old magic keyboard and pencil and nothing to use it on... so yeah MacBook Air M3 for the WIN!

[@allenschneider1847]

This is a very helpful video. Thanks!

[@NikolasBerlin]

Maybe something to add here: Mac is a Mouse input device and iPad is a touch first device. As soon as you use your iPad standing up with mouse or trackpad it is compromised compared to the Mac because the UI doesn’t adapt. Additionally hovering your finger over a huge 13 inch touchscreen is not as efficient and precise as quickly navigating a small mouse cursor over a screen. As much as I love the iPad, this will always be a downside and is the reason classic notebooks still exist.

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

[@lukel1739]

whatever you do on a Mac, it’ll take twice the time you do it on an iPad, twice, at least, not mention how frustrating that is…..

[@Annette_Hons]

I agree. iPad should be sured for simple stuff, video consumption, music, surfing the internet, basic stuff. The heavy stuff should be done on a laptop or desktop. I like to take my iPad on the go, I'm not doing anything big with it, just watching video's, etc.

[@TheAppleLoadout]

Every KZbinr has the exact same comparison with the exact same conclusion. How about a more realistic scenario like Mac Mini or Studio or iMac and iPad vs Macbook.

[@karanm2129]

An Ipad is - 'Well an Ipad.' That's all it is Never meant for complete productivity - of no matter what you do. It's just a complimentary device if 'you think' it is.

[@johnshepherd2666]

i was confused before .......now i am more confused 😮😮😮

[@john_hind]

Apple should signal that iPad will eventually over time take over from Mac laptops, leaving MacOS for desktop models. They need a way to migrate to touch and pen interfaces without allowing half-assed application migrations like Windows did. Having an incompatible API forces developers to rebuild. But they cannot maintain the line that iPad is an adjunct device when it costs so much and is so powerful. For the meantime, here is my controversial conclusion: I will use a Windows desktop with an iPad as my only portable device. If you are going to get a Mac to increase the application portfolio, getting a Windows machine instead will do that even better, and it will cost much less for an equivalent specification.

[@TheKurtLyon]

The struggle is real…Choices 👍

[@Winstonbfit]

Not even an a real option

[@absolute_tk]

I’m a big fan of iPad Pro. And I would say NAH💀. iPad Pro is the worst Apple Product rn. Incredible hardware with unusable software (It bug all the damn time). Any one SHOULD NOT BUY IT until we get real operating system with real effort putting in it.

[@gstevens6948]

😂😂😂

[@gyroxyz7145]

Can you gift me a cheap ipad for studying 🥺 Or can you join me in your team im ready to do work for youh

[@gstevens6948]

😂😂😂

[@Sozialkompetenz]

In Summary: No

[@samuelrasco9827]

first!❤

[@TerrenRule]

thank you :)