M4 MacBook Pro After 2 Weeks: Forget The M4 Pro/Max!

[@TerrenRule]

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[@michaelschneider3446]

Guys, dont be fooled by all youtuber who praise the nanotex. I was testing that side by side with a glare display and exact the same settings and images. If you work with images and nature, paintings or all sort of images, DONT go for nanotex. You lose a lot of color, crispness andclarity. Clouds are often just white areas while the glossy one has much more details. With animals and faces as well. If you have just images with grafik, sharp corners, office work and video watching, the nanotex is ideal and really reduces the mirror effects by sun or lamps

[@hardnocks24]

Thank you for the suggestion. I was confused about that thing.

[@ia6980]

Agreed! 100% thats why i went with glossy

[@xingzhexin8843]

Developer here on the nano texture 14 inch. Works great, would recommend to other devs.

[@michaelschneider3446]

@xingzhexin8843 yes, if you don't work with images than it is great. Stunning with office and all that kind of text and numbers based content

[@digitalhen]

I mean that’s their opinion and this is your opinion.

[@vertexmarketing2369]

Glossy is quite good as the screen reflects and helps me keeps alert from other people.

[@christeder]

Good one! :D

[@drmarcusanthony]

@@christeder Good point. I don't work outside too much simply because of the risk of losing my laptop in some places. I do occasionally monitor people coming up behind me from the glossy screen on my old intel macbook.

[@billx4266]

I do photography and i dont recommend nano texture because you will see less details

[@deerock7]

this!

[@seattledude2022]

I know, productivity means editing video now.

[@1zamboni]

If you added up all the upgraded you might as well go with the M4 Pro version since the delta is not the huge, 12 core CPU 24GB memory and 1TB read and write speed is much faster.

[@stevefischer9336]

yeah that's what i did. While I'm not 100% sure I will need the extra power- id rather err on the side of power and speed. I like the Thunder 5 too- for the same reason

[@adithyabhat6622]

@@stevefischer9336 The M1 is still powerful enough for most people. So the M4 already is extra power. Don't see any reason for future proofing unless you use it for professional work

[@PKperformanceEU]

@@adithyabhat6622Nobody should future proof!!! But a few people don need the pro and max for work! They should still upgrade every 2-3years regardless of having pro/max!

[@minigiant8998]

@@stevefischer9336 i was wondering if i shouldve upgraded for thunder 5 capabilities, then i checked the price of thunder cables and cant believe people pay that much for cables!

[@Mr21scott]

He says that in the video, had you watched the whole thing.

[@Mads_on_YT]

Got myself the base M4. I'll hold out on a Nano display for another couple of generations. I wasn't quite satisfied with it when I saw it in the store, but hoping they will get incrementally better.

[@larstillberg412]

16" M4: Remarkable machines, but a significant challenge for non-touch typists. The key gaps are now black, even on the silver model-a true nightmare for those who rely on visual aiming when typing.

[@kevin-sj3wt]

its crazy how fast that space button become shiny

[@deanmeixner]

Great review, about time someone did a base model review. I had thought about getting the Pro but decided to use that money on upgrading the memory and storage 24gb/2tb. I had originally planned on a maxed out Air M3, at the time it was only $100 cheaper than the M4 with the same specs, with a better screen, extra ports etc., the choice was a no brainer.

[@angelzhelyazkov]

I've got a Macbook Pro 14" M4 Pro 24/512 last Friday and it is a noticeable upgrade from my old 16" M1 Pro 16/512GB laptop. :)

[@martinpaternoster]

For me so far the base M4 but with 1TB RAM has easily and snappily handled everything I have thrown at it without issue. So for me, the mid-range base M4 with 16GB is easily the sweet spot. I come from the Windows world, nd I still use a Windows laptop for my work, but my personal machine is now the M4, and I'm so glad I hopped the fence. This thing is a beast, and the battery, build, performance etc. are astounding.

[@bodyemcal]

It's a 400$ difference(1400 to 1800) from base to pro. It's a significant gap, but i went with the pro, which is going to serve as a desktop replacement that i will connect to 2 monitors.

[@atwajesper9434]

I know how convenient Laptops are sometimes and I guess I’m just a Desktop guy but I’ve always thought that it’s a waste of money and effort that a lot of people make when picking the perfect MacBook just to almost never use it as intended primarily but in clamshell mode as a desktop computer… 🤦‍♂️

[@j.j4090]

Will the base m4 last a long time if you just use it for writing, internet surfing, just use the apps that are already on there and not stress it out?

[@NateBjammin]

Definitely. To put it in context, I’m an engineer that needs significant performance for my side projects, and I was even considering the base M4. If you aren’t editing a lot of videos, or doing some intensive software development the M4 is plenty. TBH you’ll likely be fine with a cheaper MacBook Air if you’re only doing that kind of stuff

[@meoao8829]

10+ years, better just buy Air or M1

Mac Studio (M2 Max) cost the same that this macbook pro m4 base model... the Max M2 is better right? in raw power?

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

There’s no reason to recommend the nano texture display unless somebody is using it for graphic work in a very bright area. To make a blanket, generalization recommendation doesn’t make any sense.

[@andreaperelli5323]

First i bougt an M4 base, not impressed at all, I sent it back and I got an M4 pro, 14/20 24 gb ram and 1 tb, like triple the efficiency

[@HomesickMac]

I've got me the M4 MB Pro 14" with 48GB UM, 14/20C, 1TB SSD - the fans go crazy when I open Chrome with 5-6 tabs. Safari goes cool, no worries. I'm yet to test the FinalCut Pro and other more important stuff, but I'm disappointed in how Chrome performs (not)...

[@AubreyBeauford]

What a comprehensive review👍

[@Musicvideosboy]

Was thinking whether to get the MacBook Pro 10/10/16GB 1TB or 10/10/24GB 1TB Does 16GB and 24GB really makes a difference ?

[@kw7814]

Depends on your workload. If you're a casual user and just use office apps 16 gb is more than enough

[@TerrenRule]

What do you guys think of the new MacBook Pros? :)

[@SoulCal24]

Terran can we get a more indepth comparison for Nano vs Glossy. Bc I got a M4 Max with Glossy and am having some regret not going nano. Luckily I'm still in the return period till January 8th

[@Toglander]

@@SoulCal24- Apple’s return policy is 14 days

[@luongbachnguyen155]

@@SoulCal24personally I got the nano and honestly, it’s soo good.

[@SoulCal24]

@@Toglander Not true atleast in the US. If you received ur apple product between November 8, 2024 and December 25, 2024, may be returned through January 8, 2025. Bc this is the Holiday Return Policy.

[@Toglander]

@ - Normal policy in U.S. is 14 days

[@DAXimusTT]

Hear me out. THEY ARE ALL GREAT! I do think the M4Pro is the sweet spot this year tho. If your budget allows, get M4Pro with added ram, performance cores, mem bandwidth Yadda Yadda Yadda.... You get a lot of value in the upgrade with the pro.

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

When they say "I got my hands on" I immediately hear "a vender sent me". Who's gonna say anything negative with any though of getting anything to review in the future. And if they can keep the device that's sponsored and they don't always know the IRS considers that a form of payment and will if possible tax you. If they sell the device the IRS will tax you on that sell as well. 🎉

[@bissash05]

After watching so many reviews and comparing the price, I decided to go for the Macbook Pro M3 Pro, I got it refurbished, exactly for the same price but getting a lot more value on performance. If one of you is also doubting about what device to get. Between M4 base or M4 pro I would probably go for the M3 pro. Even for me that I do video editing and Software Development, I probably wont reach the limit of this M3 pro chip on the next 4 years.

[@NateBjammin]

I was literally going to do the same, but with Black Friday deals right now, you can get a base M4Pro for cheaper than an M3 pro. $1750 for the better chip and 24g of RAM is a steal IMO

[@bissash05]

Yeah totally, in that case I would go for the M4 pro too. I must also say that in Europe I have never seen those generous discount on Black Friday

[@MarcoBeSomething]

Thank you for the suggestion, I love my M1 MacBook Air, but I made the mistake of not specing it higher than 8 gigs. It’s great for basic tasks but if I want to push it further, I know I can’t with the low Ram so I’ve been heavily considering selling the Air and my PC to cover the majority of this M3 pro MacBook Pro and replace both.

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

I scored a m3 pro PRO on sale and open box at Best Buy for $1375 with seriously only 1 battery charge cycle. I couldn't resist that deal. It's still the best deal I've seen.

[@bissash05]

@@PLANETWATERMELON Yeah is an insane value for the price. Way better than M4 base macbook

[@minigiant8998]

i have the budget for a max but all i wanted was improved speakers from the MBA so i got the base model. unfortunately, it's not much louder but it does have better sound quality and base. my only use for the laptop is to watch youtube videos.

[@MoreYouTubeShite]

You were going to get a max chip laptop for watching KZbin videos?

[@abrahamroberts2040]

♥ Great review! Looking forward to hearing how this compares to your older max.

[@VeskiTrolli]

I need some advice from people who edit/model, do you think if I were to have 2 separate external SSDs 512gb wouldn’t be a problem, I plan to do 4k video editing with my X4 and work on creating my own STL files for 3D printing, there’s a decent deal on exactly what I’ve been looking for minus the 1TB I was really hoping for

[@EmadApple]

Can you include how the text appears on a white background, such as in emails, with font sizes between 12 and 14? Also, is there any blue tint or haze? This is one of the main requests I've noticed online, and there aren’t enough reviews covering the look and feel for office work

[@MatthewVlossak]

Apple and Amazon now has a $200 off deal going on with the MacBooks. Having said that, if you could only upgrade either the RAM or the SSD, which would you recommend to do? And would you still suggest the M4 > M4 Pro model? Thanks for your time Terren! #IMadeIt

[@luongbachnguyen155]

It depends on what you do with it. Personally I’d say the RAM over the SSD as RAM can’t be extended but SSD can be with external drives. Personally that’s what I’ve gone with - base model bur upgrade to 24GB RAM and stayed with the 512 SSD.

[@Rut-l6y]

Between SSD and RAM, hands down RAM!

[@peterbicker8389]

Hands down RAM. As Ram can't be upgraded later to add as SSD you can use external hard drives for to upgrade.

[@ShubhamYadav-et2rz]

Thanks terren! Is it good for a software developer?

[@TerrenRule]

Yes of course!

[@Rut-l6y]

Depends on what u do man! Software development is a big ocean. If you are in ML then go with M4 Pro or Max

[@Scotty2kool904]

Thank you for this because i just purchased mines and I'm waiting for it.

[@yizhou1119]

$200 for 12G memory is ok but $200 for 512G storage is simply stupid

[@notorious.nip.888]

Can anyone watching explain why the blackmagic disk speed test the m4 mac only goes to high 2000’s read and write compared to my m1 base model not a pro nor a max when i tun a speed test read and write goes to 4000’s -5000’s, i dont understand a 4 gen device can have low ssd speeds?

[@diegoo.florees]

This is definitely the best review I've seen by now. Still, I'd like to share my current situation and would appreciate suggestions. Right now I have a MacBook Air early 2020 intel i5 / 8 GB RAM / 256 GB SSD. I bought it when It came out for simple school tasks and all the online classes needs I had. During quarantine I started coding and as of now I code in Swift with Xcode (iOS apps) and in Dart/Flutter. To be honest, my MacBook has done a really good job, but a new and more powerful machine is what I need now (additionally, I'm entering college next year and might study software engineering or other similar career). I was waiting for the M4 MacBooks to come out but now I'm not sure which model I should buy. I was thinking about the base model with 1 TB storage upgrade, but I've seen lots of reviews saying that the M4 Pro is the best price/quality option; additionally, it may suit better my requirements. In my country, the difference is of around $500 USD (consider 1 TB for both), which I'm not sure if I should pay. Also, I'm thinking of getting the new nano-texture display upgrade.

[@Suprdave123]

I have the base at 9% off, coulda spent more...wasn't impressed by the nano screen in store, thing is stupid fast...I could buy a Mini or PS5 for gaming with the savings.

[@akin242002]

3000 read & write speed isn't fast. It's ok. 5000+ MB/s is fast.

[@TerrenRule]

I mean for anyone really interested in M4 and not the M4 Pro / M4 Max those SSD speeds are more than enough.

[@truesight91]

The nanotex is absolutely beautiful and far better for the eyes and brain health long term. There is very little noticeable difference. The matte-like screen is soothing for the eyes and ideal if you will be using it outdoors or care for your eye health long term. I have a Asus flicker-free/low-blue-light screen with the same matte look, for years no headaches compared to other screens.

[@armchairbushcraft2164]

Your hands and head are different proportions now. I wonder if it is a lens effect. You tall so much with your hands and with narrow shoulders, they usually look comically huge.

[@thatampguy]

Every KZbinr is doing the same Hyperbolic clickbait pair: “x is AMAZING!!” Followed by the gratuitous “mistake/I was wrong” video.

[@muhammadmunam5923]

Why this model is called a Pro version when it has no Pro chip? 120hz refresh rate, HDR format and usb port are enough to justify as a pro model? Better call it Air.

[@luongbachnguyen155]

It also has the space black colour, a fan, better speakers and the nano-texture display option (unsure if this will be an upgrade option for Air M4 when it does come out).

[@muhammadmunam5923]

@ it's not colour or texture of screen that makes a machine pro. It's the CPU. Moreover they incorporated a single fan to dissipate the heat, which unsurprisingly, makes a lot of noise because it has to move faster than the one in the regular pro models (pro models have 2 fans). This makes this version nothing more than a marketing gimmick. That's why if any one wants a MacBook with M4 chip, better to wait for MacBook Air M4 instead of spending a lot of money on a false pro model.

[@TheClosedBoxTTV]

Don't agree with you, it's subjective, I guess the laptop design and internals make it Pro, not the CPU I wouldn't call a macbook air with max max a pro computer For average semi pro Joe, a base M4 Macbook Pro should suffice on sustained tasks without throttle since it has a fan to cool down The screen itself is worth it for me IMO, once you above 60Hz, you can't go back 😩

[@kevin-sj3wt]

why do people care about how a multimillion dollar company name their product???

[@muhammadmunam5923]

@ by labelling them as their premium product, they generate a lot of revenue.

[@RajveerSahay-jg9rb]

dude you're very handsome.

[@georgegiorgio]

I went with M4 Pro, 48GB and 4TB

[@ChrisCo813]

💯

[@Crystal101-j5e]

Swear to God I though it was MKBHD video😂

[@Ivan_1986]

wow:)

[@nouveauchristian5615]

#imadeit