The Best Controller for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

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Shortcat

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@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Just to have it organized, here's my process when I start the game with a GameCube controller: 1. Turn on the Switch 2. Open Mario Kart from the home screen, using the Joy-Cons, to disable doubled inputs - 14:49 3. Reset my GameCube controller for soft drifting (you don't need to be on the calibration menu) - 7:24 4. Enter a "worldwide" (me + 11 japanese players) 5. Lose Gamecube Controller FAQ: Do I have to be on the calibration screen when resetting? - No, the calibration screen is weird. In fact I recommend resetting after Mario Kart has been opened. Just hold slightly up on the left stick, hold X+Y+Start for a few seconds, press A to reconnect the controller, and you're done! It all takes 5 seconds. If you really want to see the exact inputs, you can open the calibration screen afterwards How much should I hold the left stick upwards when resetting? - A very little amount; around 1-2 degrees or 1 millimeter. Every controller is slightly different, so if this does not get you fast mini-turbo charge speeds as described in the video, then hold the stick a bit higher when resetting. Do I have to reset the controller every time I play? - Yes, I reset at the start of every session. You have to reset your controller if it disconnects, or if your Switch goes to sleep or powers off. It only takes 5 seconds to reset Do I have to connect a controller with a motion sensor, to disable doubled inputs, every time I play? - No. In my experience, I only need to do this if the Switch powers off. Can you spam the D-Pad to shake trick? - I have not found a way to simulate a shake trick on a gamecube controller, even with the D-Pad. Can any gamecube controller do the notch reset? - I can only confirm that official Nintendo gamecube controllers work (even old ones work). I have tried "Nintendo Switch Gamecube Controllers", and they cannot reset. I have tried cheap 3rd party gamecube controllers, and some of them can reset, but the input precision is so poor that it still cannot soft drift. What if my Gamecube Controller won't connect to the Switch, even though the adapter is set to Switch mode, and plugged in properly? - Try updating the adapter (search on the internet for how to do that) I have a different question! - Leave a new comment (not a reply comment) on this video. I check this comment section frequently and will probably be able to help you!
@Thebungus765
@Thebungus765 11 ай бұрын
I just thought maybe you can use the nintendo switch sports soccer strap with a joycon in it. If you strap it to your foot maybe you can shake trick. I don't have the gamecube controller to test it, but I thought it'd be cool if it works.
@Thebungus765
@Thebungus765 11 ай бұрын
Oh wait I just thought about it some more and the motion controls would mess that up.
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Wow that would be crazy if we were kicking to trick 👀
@aaronpetralba7444
@aaronpetralba7444 11 ай бұрын
Steps 4&5 are optional right?
@isaiahkepner8078
@isaiahkepner8078 11 ай бұрын
Step 4 is why I play regional😂
@PavelR1
@PavelR1 11 ай бұрын
I just love how you show an optimal technique working amazingly and then get mario karted anyway, comedic gold
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Toadette had a HARD life in the max acceleration video
@staceyking4904
@staceyking4904 11 ай бұрын
Do ugliest combos next shortcat plz
@maildaemon
@maildaemon 11 ай бұрын
@@Shortcat321 I'd love for you to play Isabelle! I know she has the same stats but instead of going for max accel you could use her signature combo. It's so cute :>
@kingworldadventures
@kingworldadventures 11 ай бұрын
@@maildaemonW
@ricochet_1029
@ricochet_1029 9 ай бұрын
​@@Shortcat321Does shake trick work with motion steering off?
@slickity
@slickity 11 ай бұрын
4:32 “the game does not pause online” oh yeah? Tell that to my mom
@CHERRY_ED
@CHERRY_ED 11 ай бұрын
LOL
@EliteGamesEG
@EliteGamesEG 10 ай бұрын
-My dad wants me to take out the trash- Me: I can't pause the game it's an online game My Dad: Gimme that controller!! I'll find the pause to it! -My dad takes the controller- -Game freezes- -Voice chat goes crazy-
@chocov1233
@chocov1233 10 ай бұрын
​@@EliteGamesEGThat made me laugh.
@MK8Warrior
@MK8Warrior 4 ай бұрын
😂
@MAPAFL
@MAPAFL Ай бұрын
@@chocov1233 That was the most npc response possible
@JKonasss
@JKonasss 11 ай бұрын
Seeing you use motion controls all the time made me think you were just the GOAT. I was inspired me to start playing with motion controls all the time for motion gliders and got pretty decent at keeping my controller still during normal gameplay. But now I'm learning that IT'S ALL A LIE 😭😭😭
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA this was my evil plan
@PaulMenden5659
@PaulMenden5659 11 ай бұрын
OMG same here!
@tokothegecko
@tokothegecko 11 ай бұрын
The bad ending
@DaanDuckies
@DaanDuckies 9 ай бұрын
For me as a motion control main with a pro controller currently, which one is better for me?
@bransonsharp2488
@bransonsharp2488 9 ай бұрын
Bro for reals!! I got so good at holding myself DEAD stable so I could be as good as these guys!! WE COULD HAVE HAD IT OFF WHILE DRIVING AHHH!!
@hampterland
@hampterland 9 ай бұрын
The people spamming "I'm using tilt controls!" were onto something
@tsncrpntr
@tsncrpntr 11 ай бұрын
I had a project for one of my computer science classes where I had to make something with a raspberry Pi and a bunch of sensors. So of course, I built a controller for MK8D. I used PVC pipes to build a set of handlebars, an accelerometer to tell what angle the wheel was pointed at, a tilt sensor for a throttle, and buttons for everything else. Hooked everything up to mart1nro’s Joycontrol code, and bam. Best project I’ve ever done.
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Sounds amazing! You should try to set a world record with it
@WildLukery
@WildLukery 11 ай бұрын
that’s so cool!
@JosefTBB
@JosefTBB 11 ай бұрын
Make a video on it.
@tigers2026
@tigers2026 8 ай бұрын
i need to see that, it sounds awesome!
@keidmaster
@keidmaster 3 ай бұрын
that sounds so cool!
@drunkenxrage
@drunkenxrage 11 ай бұрын
You can hear the joysticks clacking and the button clicks in like every intense vid so I've always known you used a GC controller. Those sounds are iconic to us who were 10 in the early-2000s 😂
@FishyAshB
@FishyAshB 11 ай бұрын
This video has blown my mind. I have sometimes begrudgingly used my gamecube controller when family is around, hating the experience because I couldn't soft drift on it. But knowing WHY it doesn't soft drift, and how to actually deal with it, I never thought I'd have someone tell me this. Not only that but I never knew you could do that with the D pad to do motion glider... looks like I'll be using my gamecube controller from now on.
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Your family was right all along
@lunchtreyy
@lunchtreyy 10 ай бұрын
You actually don't need to go through the charades of messing with the calibration of the analog sticks, you can just feel the straight edge of the gate and know you are in the soft drifting spot. Because it's not a circle, the edge is closer to the center than the 45 degree angle, so if you just feel a little bit under it you feel the difference and get perfect soft drifts without needing to mess around in the settings
@veldhuizenc
@veldhuizenc 11 ай бұрын
Just so you know, the "border" around the analog stick is called the "gate". Pro controllers have circle gates, gamecube controllers have octagonal gates (and most arcade-style fight sticks have square gates).
@staceyking4904
@staceyking4904 11 ай бұрын
Do ugliest combos next shortcat
@dogyX3
@dogyX3 11 ай бұрын
Is it possible to find 3rd party controllers to mimick pro controllers, but have octagonally gates?
@maildaemon
@maildaemon 11 ай бұрын
That's really cool, I didn't know that!
@MrCactuar13
@MrCactuar13 11 ай бұрын
and us arcade stick weirdos have square gates
@chimmychuck
@chimmychuck 9 ай бұрын
@@dogyX3 i actually have a shell mod for my pro controller, it has octogonal gates. pretty cheap, 28 bucks and super easy to install
@mqgTWO96
@mqgTWO96 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Shortcat. I've been watching MK8DX guides from English speaking content creators for so long, and you're one of the newer (to me) ones I've recently ran into. My VR on MK8DX online is around 50K so I've been an experienced player for years, but the main question I was always asking is what is the best controller for soft drifting, because as far as time trialing goes for precise mini-turbos and other strats, there's no technique more important in the game than soft drifting and neutral drifting.... appreciate this so much. Still learning something new even after the DLC is over!
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
There's so much to learn in this game! 😊 For soft drifting, practicing with the pro controller will make you consistent at it too. If you get a GameCube controller, make sure you learn how to do motion glider for online!
@plipbloop2159
@plipbloop2159 11 ай бұрын
You are the best Mario kart content creator, bar none. I’ve seen comprehensive guides and very long detailed videos on this game before, but you do it in such an accessible way I just enjoy watching the videos. Been watching for half a year now and honestly get excited every time you upload. Keep up the good work ❤
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@WildLukery
@WildLukery 11 ай бұрын
@plipbloop2159 i COMPLETELY agree
@provence8917
@provence8917 11 ай бұрын
I still use Joy-Cons and while I am good at soft-drifting, it dire situations it can get messy or even in time trials. So, having this extra bit of consistency with the GC controller is great. Can only advocate for this reason alone to use the GC controller, tbh. no matter the skill level. You want consistency every time.
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
I don't main the pro controller, so I can't say for sure what perfect soft drifting muscle memory is like. But i have talked to pro players (some world record holders), and they have no issues soft drifting on the pro controller. Although these are people who play a LOT. For the average player, I can confidently say that soft drifting notches are amazing
@lingamerplayzSMO
@lingamerplayzSMO 6 ай бұрын
I play mario kart on one joycon lol like I use the left side of the joycons bc I feel like it is smaller and you can hold it tighter since I have smaller hands
@GD_SINEIT
@GD_SINEIT 2 ай бұрын
You ruined me shortcat I have the inability to drift like a normal humans only know how to soft drift but not regular drifting
@Siler95
@Siler95 11 ай бұрын
I never knew you used a gc controller, I always thought you were so good that motion controls just didn’t effect you
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
I'm flattered, but in reality I cannot drive at all with real motion controls on 😂
@Thebungus765
@Thebungus765 11 ай бұрын
I saw a video on game cube motion glider yesterday. I was like: "shortcat does this, why hasn't he made a video about this yet?"
@PavelR1
@PavelR1 11 ай бұрын
saaaaame
@Thebungus765
@Thebungus765 11 ай бұрын
Oh he talked about the video in this video, cool.
@kylemckell
@kylemckell 11 ай бұрын
This is one of the coolest in depth advanced tech looks into mario kart 8 dx that I have seen on KZbin. All of this is so cool, and I would've never thought of any of it. Thanks for sharing!
@muno
@muno 11 ай бұрын
I used to think Melee was a really unique game because of all the crazy exploits and tech people have found over the years. But videos like these make me think that every game is just as janky, and it just takes a dedicated community over a long period of time to discover it all :D
@fusionwing4208
@fusionwing4208 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, all games are full of bugs/glitches/exploits if the community is dedicated enough to find them xD (In a lot of ways its a hinderance though... Some games are considered super glitchy cause of this, even though a casual experience wont really interact with most game breaking issues)
@unnamedplayer7
@unnamedplayer7 11 ай бұрын
I am by no means part of the MK community; I just watch a few content creators and cry about the fact that I don't have my switch with me (I will soon, just also need to cry about spending $60 as a broke college student). But I absolutely love seeing the references and support of other creators who also play the game. I had watched one of Rod's recent videos and he had made a reference to your specific content, then came here just to see you also using a clip from him. Great stuff. Keep it up!
@maildaemon
@maildaemon 11 ай бұрын
I use a (officially licensed) third-party controller to play Mario Kart, one that lacks a motion sensor. I'd heard a little about input doubling before, but this is crazy. I wonder if I've ever used doubled inputs accidentally? Anyway, thank you for finally talking in-depth about your controller usage! After I initially heard you use a GameCube controller for Mario Kart, I took a look at it and have been considering buying one to play. Thanks for providing me with more info :)
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Input doubling is super weird and I don't understand why it happens in the first place. There is even a difference in animation when soft drifting (check the Yoshi clip where I talk about bad soft drifting, the left Yoshi leans more, and so does peach in the next clip). So now I can go back and see which videos I recorded with doubled inputs, and cringe at the bad driving 😇
@NoName-ui5ou
@NoName-ui5ou 11 ай бұрын
Have you tried using motion controls with it with the dpad? Do you need to map that manually or is it set to motion controls by default?
@maildaemon
@maildaemon 11 ай бұрын
@@NoName-ui5ou I have not! I'll test it out. The controller I use is not re-mappable though, sadly.
@lucagacy
@lucagacy 11 ай бұрын
great vid. I have used both pro controller and GC when playing mariokart. the only thing that keeps me on pro controller is that sometimes on a GC controller (particularly older ones), because the triggers are analog, when trailing an item, the game will just throw the item when you didnt release the trigger. in extreme cases, the controller can flicker between the switch considering the trigger to be pressed or not, and it will spam all your items away. its a rare occurrence, but this has even happened to Ludwig on stream when playing MK8DX, and you can see his confusion on his face when it happens.
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Good to know! This must be a faulty controller, or only the really old ones. I don't think I've experienced this issue myself
@ariac4080
@ariac4080 11 ай бұрын
Best mario kart KZbinr. I have learnt so much from your channel and it is still super entertaining. Everything you say is informative which I love!
@thenintendude
@thenintendude 11 ай бұрын
Wow! I NEVER knew about this advanced gliding technique! I thumbed up this video because of how thorough it was in explaining it, along with how my favorite controller of all time has yet ONE MORE use, further cementing its status! Good job in explaining! 👍🏻 I wonder how this would work with the Nyxi Wizard... 🤔
@loading.
@loading. 11 ай бұрын
This is an awesome video. I wasn't wanting to actually watch the video, i just wanted to see what you were talking about, but then i watched the whole thing. Great stuff
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@Hegna1
@Hegna1 11 ай бұрын
Just FYI (admittedly something I imagine you've considered) for the soft drifting, a lot of high level Smash Melee players just have their controller filed down with special notches to hit certain angles consistently (firefox angles for recovery, wavedash angles for maximum distance). Obviously, this requires controller modding, which isn't for everyone, but I imagine a similar approach could be used for soft drifting to not need to reset the controller. Probably not super necessary, but figure it can be an option worth considering too?
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Compared to controller resetting, the only advantage I can think of for custom notches is to get soft drifting on all 4 diagonals. With resetting, you have to pick between the up diagonal and the down diagonal. Most good players soft drift with the up diagonal, probably for comfort. To my knowledge, up vs down soft drifting only matters in 2 situations: 1. Throwing an item forward or backward while soft drifting 2. Sinking vs floating while soft drifting (for #2, I can only think of specifically big blue's last turn path switch, and piranha plant cove's first turn shortcut, both of which you would prefer to soft drift downwards) I guess having all 4 diagonal notches would be ideal, but I just aim above the lower notch whenever I need to soft drift downwards, which is almost never.
@Hegna1
@Hegna1 11 ай бұрын
​@@Shortcat321 Yeah that makes sense. I wasn't sure if it would be necessary (I definitely mostly play Kart casually, but enjoying learning more about game systems), but it just seemed like an interesting option after hearing about trying to hit certain points consistently. I can definitely understand it being overkill though.
@Jetliner
@Jetliner 11 ай бұрын
Common misconception is that there is a single softdrifting angle. That's not the case. You want access to the full range of angles between 90 and 45 and notching would be counterintuitive to this purpose
@mariocisemusic
@mariocisemusic 11 ай бұрын
having played this game with a gamecube controller before, i was almost certain the thumbnail was a joke. the ability to motion glider with the dpad and your clever soft drifting hack really change the game-i have to try this!
@Ihonestlydek
@Ihonestlydek 11 ай бұрын
I swear you actually have the potential to be one of the best MK8dx players with all the knowledge you have
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Meanwhile I didn't play Mario kart for 3 days to make this video 😅
@NorthStrongSC
@NorthStrongSC 11 ай бұрын
Don't even know how I found this channel. But I've watched a ton of your videos and they inspired me to play a bit online for the first time tonight. Got to 1500 and had a lot of fun. I will definitely never be at the point where I need to worry about what kind of controller I'm using but you're such a good presenter I'm watching anyway lol.
@NorthStrongSC
@NorthStrongSC 11 ай бұрын
Also mario with standard kart tires glider FTW
@Bayesic
@Bayesic 11 ай бұрын
First off I REALLY enjoyed your way of explaining why motion glider is faster. Don't know if you've ever had a moment when watching a video where you go "Shit that's how *I* should have explained that" but that was it for me lol As far as which controller is "better" I think it depends 1. If you're a new-ish player it might be a bit complicated to set up a gamecube controller properly, but once you do it's clearly easier to learn the tech on gamecube than it is on switch 2. At top level I do actually think the pro controller is still better though, and that's because button remapping + --> L and Y --> R makes doing motion glider pretty straightforward with like 5 minutes of practice. I also think a lot of people will find it pretty awkward to take their right hand off the controller mid race. Not saying that this makes gamecube bad, just that I don't think it actually provides much of a clear advantage. And being forced to give up shake tricking really does hurt in enough circumstances that I'd say it's a pretty clear disadvantage 3. However I've gotta say this is an absolute GAME CHANGER for speedruns, because in a speedrun, pausing actually pauses the game unlike online where it keeps going, and so all of the benefits of motion controls are more than cancelled out by how long you spend in the pause menu. HOWEVER the fact that gamecube has no motion sensor means that we can play with motion controls on all the time without it screwing up our lines. This means that gamecube has actually unlocked motion controls for speedrunning, which is AMAZING, and almost certainly worth being forced to give up the ability to shake trick
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Bayesic!! For anyone who doesn't know, this is the man I first learned motion glider from. 1. Yes, there are a few steps and it's possible to unknowingly mess it up. Especially accidentally having doubled inputs turned on. 2. For time trials, pro controller may still be better because of the greater range of inputs that are possible (dpad only lets you hit 8 coordinates). Also you don't need to take your right hand off the controller for gamecube controller, you just stretch your right thumb over to the dpad. It's pretty easy to do. Also as someone who uses the gamecube controller, I'm pretty sure I save more time on motion glider than the time I lose on missed tricks. I have not measured this though, and the difference would also depend on the exact distribution of tracks you play on. For example, competitive lounge players play some tracks way more than other tracks. 3. Awesome! I didn't even think about that. The difference here would be measurable, since in a speedrun you know exactly which tracks you're going to play on, and therefore the expected amount of time saved from motion glider, and time lost from missed tricks.
@azza5332
@azza5332 6 күн бұрын
Even though I'm not someone who plays MK8D competitively I really appreciate all the in-depth knowledge you have on the game. I love when content creators do this because it shows how much love and dedication they pour into a series. I dunno if you know him, but you are what ThatSRB2DUDE is to Splatoon to what you are to Mario Kart, a very skilled player and content creator who loves the franchise and gets right into the guts of the game to show off all the technical aspects that we'd never know about. That's why I enjoy your content and it's what makes you stand out, the fact you always explain what you're doing and why :)
@xColter
@xColter 11 ай бұрын
I use a pro controller with a custom faceplate that has gamecube notches for soft drifting. This allows me to soft drift easier. I would like to always have motion gliding, but from my experience online, it doesn't make me win any more or less, so I enjoy the motion tricking for stability in my own performance :) If players are better than me they will still find ways to smack me.
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
That's a cool mod! Also I respect that decision, missing a trick can be frustrating. And that's true, the time saved from motion glider is not big enough to always matter. But the royal raceway shroomless cut saves about the same amount of time and I do it every lap anyway. And I do have several clips in this video where motion glider definitely mattered a lot. As with any small time save, it's more about the probability of it helping you, and also stacking time saves to ultimately be so far ahead that maybe you dodge an entire boomerang thanks to it.
@xColter
@xColter 11 ай бұрын
@Shortcat321 very true! You do always save great time in your clips! Thanks for responding man, I love your videos
@TheGlaiveDominatrus
@TheGlaiveDominatrus 11 ай бұрын
In case you all are wondering, if you REALLY like your controllers with rumble, you can plug the grey plug into the Nintendo Switch as well as enable rumble for system settings and the game you are playing.
@Boberry765
@Boberry765 11 ай бұрын
Keep up the work shortcat
@lokory
@lokory 11 ай бұрын
I wanted to know how to do that yesterday and seeing you make a video on it is a HUGE coincidence :P
@BearUNLV
@BearUNLV 11 ай бұрын
Been using GameCube since the beginning actually about 4k hours on it lol, nice vid
@MeesterTweester
@MeesterTweester 11 ай бұрын
ayy
@dude98a.k.adudewhereismyca84
@dude98a.k.adudewhereismyca84 11 ай бұрын
5:05 it seems part of mario kart wii's Dpad tricks (you'd do ramp tricks by pressing a direction on the dpad) for the gamecube controller and classic controller are kind of reappearing. 17:00 the grey plug is extra power for rumble, i'd say plug it in if you like having rumble.
@Herbu21
@Herbu21 11 ай бұрын
5:40 Actually, you CAN disable motion glider after you finished the race. You had a few seconds (about 1 or 2?) to open the settings menu and disable it when you finished the race. Or you can click Y in the course selection to go back to the vehicle selection and disable it there (But of course, it's not optimal)
@bryceinnerst7963
@bryceinnerst7963 11 ай бұрын
hes referring to the rest of the current race, not the next race dummy
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I was specifically talking about if you're not on lap 3
@CYLITM
@CYLITM 11 ай бұрын
This only works in the top spots anyways
@NathanielIanLewis
@NathanielIanLewis 11 ай бұрын
Mad respect for using the orange GameCube controller in the thumbnail. That thing is nostalgic lol
@IRAninja72011
@IRAninja72011 11 ай бұрын
as a pro controller player, i might consider switching. but what’s funny is that at 14:30 when he was explaining why motion glider is sooooooo good, HE LITERALLY MISSED A TRICK LOL but either way, i consider your opinion very accurate because when i tune into a jpg stream (jpg uses a pro controller) almost every time i watch his streams, he messes up a motion glider and regrets it. obviously jpg is legions better than you, (no offense but he’s literally top 300 in the world) he still messes up because of his playing style so i find this video extremely helpful. PS: IM YOUR #1 FAN AND NOBODY WILL PROVE OTHERWISE
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Wow I didn't even notice, that was funny haha. And no offense taken, it's simply true that he's much better than me. I do feel like my motion glider is pretty consistent thanks to the dpad!
@E-78
@E-78 11 ай бұрын
I originally played mario kart wii, and once i discovered the Gamecube controller it was my go-to everytime I played. It was cool to see it used for Mario Kart 8 and it sounds like it would be a lot of fun to revisit that controller in the current entry. Thanks for the great video!
@rytheartguy3778
@rytheartguy3778 11 ай бұрын
Ok this is good, I bought a Gamecube Controller a while back but I saw a Pro Controller and I thought my GameCube Controller wouldn't be good with 8 Deluxe. So thank you ShortCat for calming my nerves
@MrJasonwong1010
@MrJasonwong1010 11 ай бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Mario kart pros in Japan are using pro controller because of mtja(mini turbo jump action). They charge a mini turbo in a trickable region and release the mt and trick immediately after. I think this is easier to do with shake tricking because the drift button is the same as the trick button and you can’t really press it that quick after a releasing a mt.
@DaDerpHerd
@DaDerpHerd 8 ай бұрын
My brother and I decided to buy GameCube controllers after watching this video. They finally arrived today and we love them! This video was so helpful and informative. Thank you so much!! 😊 Can’t wait to start wrecking people online lol
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 8 ай бұрын
Awesome!! I'm glad you like it
@Storm107
@Storm107 11 ай бұрын
And here I thought I'd never get to use motion glider because I main GC Controller. Incredibly helpful video.
@n10do
@n10do 11 ай бұрын
One nuance I would add that wasn’t mentioned in the vid is that you cannot re-map inputs on the GCN to turn on smart steering more easily. Smart steering is pretty useful on stages like Ribbon Road or DK Summit.
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Right, it's slightly slower to hit the pause button on GCC than a remapped pro controller button
@sebbie_gonzo
@sebbie_gonzo 11 ай бұрын
Amazingly detailed video! This is, hands down, some of the best MK8DX content out there. Can't wait for the pro guide!
@Gala_KM
@Gala_KM 11 ай бұрын
This is really useful information. The way you go about explaining mechanics is very engaging and it's really accessible for people trying to get into competitive Mario kart. Thank you for all of the effort you put into your videos 👍
@Lamellae
@Lamellae 11 ай бұрын
I was so curious about your motion inputs im glad you made this, it's also super useful
@selfloathinggameing
@selfloathinggameing 11 ай бұрын
You did mention that Smash players prefer GC controllers, but could Melee-style controller mods help with Mario Kart? They use custom notches to get consistent max wavedashes or shield drops, this could make softdrift consistent without having to mess with stick calibration every time you plug a controller in.
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Carving notches should work, but I'm not an expert on that. For the GCC the only advantage I can think of is to get soft drifting on both the up diagonal and down diagonal notches. The reset method only lets you pick up or down, not both. It matters for very niche situations like throwing an item, or floaty tracks where holding down vs up matters
@Coco-qy6st
@Coco-qy6st 11 ай бұрын
I think they definitely would. Notches for the soft-drift angles and trigger plugs for shorter trigger pulls (more comfortable imo)
@Coco-qy6st
@Coco-qy6st 11 ай бұрын
Tactile Z button would be a good mod too. Forgot that one.
@pheldsparr
@pheldsparr 11 ай бұрын
I love seeing people put so much effort into optimizing techniques for a game that is known for punishing you very hard for being good or sometimes no reason at all.
@BrandonChen-sdef123
@BrandonChen-sdef123 11 ай бұрын
I was like “how does he always play with motion controls on?”
@fredyjacobchoxommartinez2584
@fredyjacobchoxommartinez2584 6 ай бұрын
Ohh my gosh my mind was about to explode with tremendous information jaja, I've heard about motion glider but I've never tried before for sure, sounds a little tough, tricky and rough, majority of my time was playing Smash Bros Ultimate with GC, but I couldn't have imaginated how complex mario kart is, I'll take into account what you said in this video, Thank you ShortCat for your research Nice video dude!
@gooimi
@gooimi 11 ай бұрын
Have you considered getting a custom gamecube controller with custom notches? That way you dont need to change the stick's calibration
@Herbu21
@Herbu21 11 ай бұрын
Omg I was wondering if you had posted a video today, I check KZbin and 53s ago, new video! Thx for your work, J Cat
@2natism
@2natism 11 ай бұрын
did you get tired of cubing
@skibbl_dev
@skibbl_dev 8 ай бұрын
JPERM i thought i was the only one who realized
@whitgerard194
@whitgerard194 8 ай бұрын
ME TOO DUDE I'VE BEEN THINKING THIS FOR SO LONG
@Crekimables
@Crekimables 8 ай бұрын
Lol
@notroderke
@notroderke 8 ай бұрын
Me too
@Angxl13
@Angxl13 8 ай бұрын
I thought he was gem from squid school
@miloszandzel
@miloszandzel 11 ай бұрын
It's always a good day when Jperm uploads, no matter what channel
@Kandraith
@Kandraith 11 ай бұрын
I'm old. I was 6 when the Gamecube came out. I will always default back to it if I can when it comes to controller use.
@dh3913
@dh3913 11 ай бұрын
Same! It’s just such a solid controller, I always want to use it.
@iCyee5G
@iCyee5G 11 ай бұрын
This video was really interesting. I cannot wait for the advanced techs guide!!! Love the content Shortcat ♥️ keep it up!
@cahasesbricks
@cahasesbricks 11 ай бұрын
No way this is what Jperm has been doing all this time
@Aiilex
@Aiilex 9 ай бұрын
Yup, it’s him.
@notroderke
@notroderke 8 ай бұрын
I thought that too lol
@notroderke
@notroderke 8 ай бұрын
Cubing J perm?! I thought it was him too lol
@flowvis1193
@flowvis1193 11 ай бұрын
thank you for validating me I've always preferred the gamecube controller comfort wise for mario kart
@Sebboebbo
@Sebboebbo 11 ай бұрын
I tilt on a third-party pro controller because it feels nicer in my hands compared to two joy-cons and because tilt is funny
@knockoffninja
@knockoffninja 11 ай бұрын
I love that you featured Bayesic in this video. He's a great guy who I know outside of youtube
@NewPolkCity
@NewPolkCity 11 ай бұрын
Day 2 of asking Shortcat to play online Battle Mode in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
@onebear6504
@onebear6504 11 ай бұрын
Been waiting for your upload! It didn't disappoint! And I admire how you found all this tricks with the controller lol. Must be lots of theorizing and experimenting. Appreciate you sharing it too xD.
@dogeboii7441
@dogeboii7441 11 ай бұрын
JPerm, that you?
@waddle..
@waddle.. 4 ай бұрын
I've been thinking the same thing! 😂
@PaulHilarides
@PaulHilarides 2 ай бұрын
I thought that voice sounded farmiliar
@haribo_42
@haribo_42 11 ай бұрын
4:02 I use motion controls 100% of the time, it just feels much easier and (almost) never messes me up. Though it’s likely just because my brain is used to it idk
@BrandonChen-sdef123
@BrandonChen-sdef123 11 ай бұрын
There is a video on this called “hyper gliding in Mario kart 8 deluxe”
@megaclpb
@megaclpb 11 ай бұрын
clearly you didn't watch the whole video
@VanillahZ
@VanillahZ 11 ай бұрын
15:58
@Taters7410
@Taters7410 11 ай бұрын
Crazy how much tech skill mariokart actually has!
@Remzfx
@Remzfx 11 ай бұрын
Video idea: face reveal at 300k
@Jfile904
@Jfile904 11 ай бұрын
Soon we'll see that he's Jperm
@stangneshakon
@stangneshakon 11 ай бұрын
Something makes me think he has chinese blood 🤔
@zek2234
@zek2234 11 ай бұрын
i bet he'd look like my friend, dylan, he likes to do rubiks cubes
@love2o9
@love2o9 10 ай бұрын
He seems like the guy to secretly do Rubik's Cubes
@Cypi-6
@Cypi-6 9 ай бұрын
Just look at the channel Jperm and you will see his face
@thedutchcodex
@thedutchcodex 11 ай бұрын
I do love using my DualSense controller for Mario Kart. It gets me the most consistent results. With the techniques I larned from your videos I'm almost at 10k VR. Have a good one.
@DarkIllusionn
@DarkIllusionn 11 ай бұрын
Me using an xbox controller 🗿🍷
@Unitdairy
@Unitdairy 5 ай бұрын
am i slow? How? I tried to connect my controller via a wire but it didnt work
@r0bapple
@r0bapple 5 ай бұрын
Prob a usb stick ​@@Unitdairy
@Niixblue-ve9qm
@Niixblue-ve9qm 14 күн бұрын
USB sticks don’t work. The controller receive power but my inputs did nothing
@DarkIllusionn
@DarkIllusionn 14 күн бұрын
@Niixblue-ve9qm you need an 8bitdo adapter for it to work
@PickoYT_
@PickoYT_ 11 ай бұрын
I like this new way of making videos using a more analytical view of the game. Also great video, didn't notice people were this sweaty to use a 10 year old smash controller🤣🤣🤣
@jaskaranbajwa8443
@jaskaranbajwa8443 11 ай бұрын
That's some insane p2w, kinda surprised I haven't heard about this more. Hitbox was mega controversial in the FGC until devs started putting in counter measures to make it fair but I've never even heard about his and MK8D isn't even some underground game either
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
Ideally we'll have a controller that can shake trick (maybe simulated by a button press), cannot tilt, has soft drifting notches on all 4 diagonals, and can motion input using the right hand. Until then, everyone is compromising anyway 😬
@NotPhoenic
@NotPhoenic 11 ай бұрын
Do I own a switch? No. do I play Mario kart? No. Did I watch the entire video anyway? Yeah, sure why not.
@gamkht
@gamkht 11 ай бұрын
Always wondered what your setup was, and wanted more info on controllers as well. Looking forward to the advanced guide!!
@Dakota-s3f
@Dakota-s3f 11 ай бұрын
This video convinced me to invest in my own GameCube controller for my switch! The game cube was one of the first consoles I ever played I probably haven’t touched one in 15 years!
@tejmen6877
@tejmen6877 11 ай бұрын
I was always so confused what the clicking was in the vids. Thanks for clearing that up! :)
@FunBottleGames
@FunBottleGames 11 ай бұрын
Shortcat your a legend for this I never knew you used a GameCube controller that way you always motion glide 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Gestersmek
@Gestersmek 7 ай бұрын
16:57 You don't need to do what is pictured; there are two other USB ports on the dock behind the left Joy-Con, which are also present on the OLED Dock if you happen to own that one.
@NoTeMetasConPou
@NoTeMetasConPou 11 ай бұрын
thank you jpe- i mean shortcat i will def use this when I play Mario kart next!
@notroderke
@notroderke 8 ай бұрын
J perm 😂
@deadshot792
@deadshot792 5 ай бұрын
Whenever I play Mario kart I accidentally used to do soft drifts all the time and I was confused this vid helped
@HaileyBug0
@HaileyBug0 11 ай бұрын
I just found out about your Mario kart channel. This is really cool, and I came from your cubing channel, and I was very surprised!
@dariusbrawl3759
@dariusbrawl3759 11 ай бұрын
11:32 couldn't you mash up-down on the d-pad if the dpad acts as motion controls for the game?
@Shortcat321
@Shortcat321 11 ай бұрын
That does not do a trick, unfortunately.
@boo1_gaming927
@boo1_gaming927 11 ай бұрын
I have modified the triggers on one of my GCN controllers so they will act more like a digital trigger than the stock analog ones. It’s also worth noting that GCN controllers can be used with MKWii, MKSC (with Game Boy Player on the GCN), and MKDD, so if you play either of those games as well, you’ll be better off with a trigger modification. I just use trigger plugs, but if you want a true digital trigger in your GCN controller, you will need it modded on a hardware level. Sites like Battle Beaver offer these services, but they don’t come cheap. Trigger plugs and the appropriate screwdrivers are $20 at most, while specialized GCN controllers can cost $200+. Last thing, you don’t need a GCN controller to achieve motionless motion gliding. You can also just get a wired third party controller from Power A or PDP, and the results will be the same as using a GCN controller. Heck, it maybe even better to use a USB controller over GCN because the adapter does add latency. That, and some of these third party wired controllers may have assignable buttons on the bottom of the controller. Most of them have two if they have them, but I know the Fusion by Power A has four. That means if you have a Fusion controller, you can map all of the inputs of the d pad on the bottom buttons, and you don't have to do crazy shenanigans with your hands.
@triprism2373
@triprism2373 11 ай бұрын
something to note, everything that he said in terms of motion controls for the game cube controller is also true for a wired pro controller. I don't believe Nintendo officially sells those, but there are plenty of third-party sales.
@lonelyhorse64
@lonelyhorse64 7 ай бұрын
My family has a GameCube, so we are able to use the actual original GameCube controllers, which is great! (i dont have MK8D though because we already bough MK8 on the WiiU and havent felt like upgrading)
@aandafunlist2824
@aandafunlist2824 11 ай бұрын
7:00 I do this and i didn't even realize until now. Also, you can charge a mini turbo without drifting. you just need to turn VERY sharply. Test it on the Dragon Palace battle map if you want.
@nuke_hazard18_23
@nuke_hazard18_23 11 ай бұрын
Another outstanding video, thanks shortcat. Hope you have a great day!
@adomemphys
@adomemphys 4 ай бұрын
This takes me way frickin back to practicing wave dashing on melee hahahaha 8:57 this is smart af thanks
@Breeze926
@Breeze926 11 ай бұрын
0:23 "Doesnt that mess up your driving when the controller tilts?" Meanwhile me, a Splatoon player, having my hands function as a gimbal after playing 4.5 sensitivity after 7 years.
@gigi_pierpaolo
@gigi_pierpaolo 11 ай бұрын
I want to thank Shortcat because I came back to this game thanks to these videos. Only problem: I play it on the WII U
@ganasus1879
@ganasus1879 11 ай бұрын
As someone who comes from smash and is more comfortable with the gamecube controller anyways this is very helpful! Thank you for sharing things like this
@MysteriousPingu
@MysteriousPingu 3 ай бұрын
I cant stop winning now. It was good doing business with you sir🎉❤
@ilovebcnr08
@ilovebcnr08 10 ай бұрын
i love how when using a game cube controller breaking something to be better is a must
@MustashMan3300
@MustashMan3300 11 ай бұрын
13:59 - I actually remapped my pro controller's shoulder buttons for motion glider online lol so now I can pause to do motion glider mid-race online. Also: I play with the pro controller/joy cons all the time, and I can soft drift perfectly. I focus on time trials most of the time, so my vr is only about 8600 lol
@AceTheOcarinaMaker
@AceTheOcarinaMaker 5 ай бұрын
There is also PowerA's weird Gamecube controller that actually has motion controls and digital buttons because it is basically just a Switch Pro controller in a Gamecube shell.
@Marley_BS
@Marley_BS 11 ай бұрын
YAYY! The average to pro guide!! Thanks alot Shortcat!
@flarky6465
@flarky6465 11 ай бұрын
My races are going to be dramatically improved now that I can consistently get tricks by shaking my pro controller like it's a wii remote. Brings me back to when pow blocks struck fear in us kids
@dymaz_azure
@dymaz_azure 8 ай бұрын
4:40 why doesnt it kork the same with the pro controller? why cant you just hold the d-pad on the pro controller too?
@Pablo-on7xm
@Pablo-on7xm 8 ай бұрын
You can probably also use the d pad but it has motion controls so when you slightly tilt it its going to move the cart
@Duplidikus
@Duplidikus 11 ай бұрын
You are so underrated! Great Videos!
@Draidenfriday
@Draidenfriday 11 ай бұрын
yoo, jperm, this is an amazing video, love the new content. I still love your cubing vids but these mario kart ones go hard too
@burgerbunboy
@burgerbunboy 3 күн бұрын
i already had a gamecube controller before i saw this video,i just thought it looked cool!
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