Shutting down flat Earthers, Neil deGrasse Tyson style | Big Think

[@bigthink]

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[@mertboyali509]

What is the best way to terraform Mars?

[@relentlessshillstomper114]

Yeh.......why do you have to lie about everything you Muppet.

[@johnnycarrion4754]

What gravity is?

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

Neutrinos have been observed changing flavor between electron, muon and tau. How does that prove that neutrinos have mass? If they do have mass, then how can they arrive at the same time as the visible light from super novae that are many light years away? I would like to hear a general discussion about complex organic molecules in the Oort Cloud. I suspect that the cloud is full of them, but I have no evidence. We found amino acids on the Murchison meteorite. Meteors come from comets. Comets come from the Oort cloud. How best can we research this? Was the oblateness of the Earth greater a billion years ago?

[@fluffymuff5519]

Ask him about interstellar travel and if he thinks it's possible to build a spacecraft humans could live on forever

[@boterlettersukkel]

Flat earth fails on every point. The geocentric flat earth has ... • No working model, or map. • No way to determine proper distances, or directions between two point on the earth not sharing the same longitude. • No explanation for how the sun and the moon circle the earth, or how the sun migrates from the tropic of Capricorn to the tropic of Cancer and back over the year. • No idea why the ancient Greeks such as Pythagoras, Aristotle, Eratosthenes and Aristarchus believed the earth was a sphere. • No idea what P and S shockwaves detected by seismology equipment tells us about the internal structure of the earth, and the shape and dimensions of the surface of the earth. • No idea what powers the sun and the stars. • No idea of the distance to the stars. • Clueless as to why almost all stars don't appear to change position in the sky from opposite sides of earth's orbit around the sun when the phenomena of parallax says they should, and why we can only use the parallax method for measuring the distance of stars that are closest to the earth. Luckily, Polaris is one that we can determine the distance to using parallax, because it is also a Cepheid variable star, which allows the distance to be measured to much more distant stars where the parallax method not longer works. • No idea of the distance from the earth to the planets, or even much about them at all. • No idea why binary stars obey Newton's law of gravitation. • No explanation as to why we can only see 59% of the total surface area of the moon when, from a flat earth perspective we should be able to see most of it, including the dark side of the moon. • No idea why the moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere compared to how it looks in the northern hemisphere, and why the phases of the moon are on opposite sides of the Moon, and why it looks circular from all vantage points on the earth. • No idea why sunspots rotate in the opposite direction in the southern and northern hemispheres, or even what sun spots are. • No believable explanation for how GPS is implemented across the world. • No explanation as to why aircraft carry ring laser gyros onboard capable of detecting the rotation of the earth. • No idea how it is possible to develop gravitational maps of the earth's surface, or why anyone would want one, or how they could be used. • No explanation for how eclipses work, especially lunar eclipses, or how to predict them correctly. • No idea why the Humber bridge, the Verrazzano Narrows bridge are built to account for the earth's curvature. • No idea why CERN, LIGO and the Stanford linear accelerator vacuum rings and arms are constructed to take account of the earth's curvature. • No idea why physicists working on LIGO, the gravity wave detector, were awarded Nobel prizes in physics. • No idea why geodetic surveyors keep claiming the earth is an oblate spheroid. • No idea why Google Earth does not publish its underlying flat earth model that allows it to project the earth as a globe. • No explanation as to why the sun rises due east for everyone on the earth on the equinox. • No idea why an observer on the equator during an equinox does not see the sun set at an angle 19° above the horizon. • No idea why there should be a discernible horizon that looks like the edge of the ocean viewed from a beach. The horizon should really be a blur as the farther we look out across the flat earth, the more light is scattered and the more particles in the atmosphere obscuring the view. • No idea how it is possible to see the sun set twice simply by changing your height above the earth (quickly by just a few tens of metres). • No reasonable explanation as to how Polaris can be used in conjunction with a sextant in the northern hemisphere to determine latitude. • No explanation as to why the Artic and Antarctic experience months of days and nights at differ times of the year. • No explanation why bright little objects called satellites by some are regularly visible in the night sky following a predicted path across the sky • No explanation for how tides work. • No explanation how (most times) boats disappear over the horizon when they should be visible on a flat earth. • No explanation as to why the horizon does not rise to eye level. • No credible explanation why helium balloons fitted with non-fish eye cameras often detect the curvature of the earth. • No credible explanation for the existence of the "Downward" force called gravity. • No explanation that does not implicitly make use of the theory of gravity for the atmospheric pressure gradient from high to low pressure with altitude, especially if we live in a dome. • No idea why (almost without exception) hurricanes and typhoons rotate in opposite directions in northern and southern hemispheres respectively. • No explanation for the Coriolis effect observable in controlled experiments such as those conducted by Ascher H. Shapiro in the 1960s. • No explanation as to why the northern celestial pole rotates counter clockwise in the northern hemisphere, and the southern celestial pole rotates clockwise in the southern hemisphere. • No idea what Antarctica even looks like, and where the South Pole is physically located. • No idea why Venus has phases. Bye bye Geocentric system. • No idea why planets, e.g. Mars, exhibit retrograde motion. Hello Heliocentric system. • No idea why the planets and their moons in the solar system appear to be obeying Newton's laws of planetary motion. • No explanation whatsoever why Stellar Aberration occurs. • No idea why clouds are illuminated from the bottom at sun set. • Can't explain how a commercial aircraft can fly from Perth to Sydney in only 4 hours 10 mins across the flat earth, as to achieve this, it would need to fly faster than an F18 on afterburner all the way. • No idea why the CO2 atmosphere of Mars appears to "Cling" to the exterior of its spherical spinning surface without the need for physical containment. This phenomenon is observable on others planets too. • No idea why the sun and the moon don't change in angular size from rising to setting by a factor of 2 to 3 since they are local to the earth, and no idea why the sun according to the inverse law of radiation is not 4 to 9 times brighter at midday than at sunset and sunrise when viewed from Australia. • No credible reason why millions of people (mostly scientists, engineers and technicians ) over decades would lie to keep the globe earth alive, and why nations and commercial enterprises, accountable to the voters and shareholders respectively, would spend (waste) $2 trillion a year , each and every year to maintain the globe lie. • No idea how it is possible to measure the value of G, the universal gravitational constant and in so doing, verify the theory of gravity. • No scientific papers publish in the last 100 years supporting the flat earth. • No idea why there is snow on hight moutains with a local sun as it has to get warmer and snow should melt if you get closer to the sun. Now the globe earth and the heliocentric model have answers that are consistent with each other to all of the above that the flat earth can't explain, but the globe earth is wrong and the flat earth is correct , even although the flat earth model is almost useless at explaining anything? Have I understood the situation correctly? The flat earth is gaslighting to the power infinity

[@vinayaktrivedi9375]

No flat earther will ever reply.....because that person will not understand anything u just said. they will pretend these arguments do not exist....

[@boterlettersukkel]

@@vinayaktrivedi9375 Probably.

[@slimewxlf70]

How is this comment not famous?

[@sharenquacker23]

This comment is so beautiful... Its almost like poetry...

[@isaiahf1990]

I'm not a flat earther idk what we're on. But this comment actually only seems smart if you don't understand the flat earth theory. There's explanations for almost everything he named. I'm still not a flat earther I'm just saying this comment only seems smart to people who have never really researched their side.

[@jamesmartin9873]

Scientists shouldn't debate flat earthers for the same reason a professional boxer shouldn't fight an 8 year old.

[@MikeBlackbird]

im LIGHTYEARS ahead of the world's top 20 scientists >>combined...

[@GuardianSoulkeeper]

I c wut u did thar

[@akoskormendi9711]

That's an amazing comparison

[@IFS]

@@MikeBlackbird Wow, a lying legend in your own mind... How original. Must be a byproduct of your open mind. Of course, too bad you opened so far your comprehension fell out.

[@marvinmartinsYT]

Mike Blackbird You’re not educated enough to wipe your own ass.

[@rustyshackleford2841]

If anyone tells you 2+2=5, you don’t sit down and debate. You leave the conversation.

[@eknaap8800]

Before I left, I would ask for evidence. That would be entertaining... 😁

[@MikeBlackbird]

what if MILLIONS OF PEOPLE are saying it! um it might be worth DISCUSSION, then, huh! uStoopitAzz X(

[@MikeBlackbird]

no fkkn reply eh!! pfft. smfh..

[@thejypzy6750]

Mike Blackbird millions?? Millions of flat earthers ur talking about? Millions... where’s this page showing the millions of flat earthers

[@thejypzy6750]

Mike Blackbird what no reply? Lol

[@TobyConger]

"It's hard to win an argument against a smart person, And impossible to win one against an idiot."

[@lapizza7175]

I love this quote

[@derp8575]

What is a female?

[@tons-wb1hl]

Yes and Neil, like all of you believe in Star Wars. 😂

[@garryjones8334]

So true, you can't beat an idiot in an argument 😂

[@scottmcclure2507]

Yes Toby well said!

[@cleander97]

Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon: no matter how good you are, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and then strut around acting like it won.

[@jimstans4234]

I thought you were talking about me, then I reread it and saw the word pigeon.

[@peepers8338]

Stolen comment

[@peterproudcherokeealexande1484]

THIS IS THE BEST REPLY I HAVE EVER SEEN, I'M STILL LMAO. IT'S SOOOO TRUE , DAM THAT'S FUNNY

[@DeathBYDesign666]

I'm sure this comment is going to be on this thread dozens of times after cats pushing their water bowls of the edge and flat earther society has members all around the globe.

[@EnerJetix]

Stolen comment I’ve seen it before

[@rochat]

"I don't argue with stupid people anymore." 4 minutes summed up in 7 words....

[@mikeflatbird729]

NDT is sofa king we todd did, and _so are you..._

[@whatisdoneinthedarkwillbeb9204]

@@mikeflatbird729 lol dude you know most of these people are too slow to understand this comment. They are here listening to a guy who is a paid actor to tell them what reality is instead of going out and testing any of the globe model for themselves.

[@vToneehh]

LMAO. Can someone give me a Earth fact please. I’ll wait.

[@kevinchamberlain7928]

Well just explain why we see vast distances when the horizon is said to be about 3 miles from the shore.

[@chimpofm]

@@whatisdoneinthedarkwillbeb9204 it would be nice to see you test it if your trying to debunk it. Ya know the one who says it doesnt work. Curviture is so eazy to measure. I was speaking to mr flat bird the other day. Dispite me going out with an inclomete and measuring at a range of attitudes. I was told you could trust the math. Which is a silly statement in its self. Its a shame as my results were conclusive. And would match yours if you chose to test the exsperiment. Repeatable mesurable tanjable.

[@Thom85vn]

"You can beat 40 geniuses with 1 fact but you can't beat an idiot with 40 facts" -Unknown

[@tezlatower2362]

Exactly.

[@tezlatower2362]

@@KangenAlec That's because they are all utter stupidity that can be refuted by a person with 9th grade knowledge of physics. "GraViTy Can't HoLD dOwN bIrDS bUt It CaN HolD DOwN tHE OcEAN". Holy mother of GOD, how are you idiots this stupid?

[@Thom85vn]

@@tezlatower2362 Gravity holds down everything. If a bird is flying, it's just flapping it's wings to keep it up. It's using force. And yea your right, how are these flat earth idiots so stupid...

[@Thom85vn]

I'm triggered by these flat earthers but one thing we can all agree on is that we live on the same planet and we share the same planet.

[@tezlatower2362]

@@Thom85vn Flat earthers just don't get physics, it proves that they think it's flat because they are uneducated.

[@Master_Udon]

I was thinking how idiotic stupid i am, but thanks to flat earthers, i'm not that stupid

[@drmantistoboggan2870]

You're a genius compared to a flat earther lol

[@Master_Udon]

@@drmantistoboggan2870 fuck, that one hurt me so bad 😂

[@zach3136]

LOL - there will soon come a day.... you'll see

[@udith]

I know what kind of math they use 2+2=22

[@filipionutcatalin6477]

That is true if the first 2 is a string. (PowerShell)

[@ViratKohli-jj3wj]

@@filipionutcatalin6477 programmer spotted

[@AnshishRay]

😹😹

[@NYCeesFinest]

You don't need math to prove something is true.

[@TheCyrix1]

@@NYCeesFinest But with math you can PROVE something is false... like the flat earth RELIGIOUS DOGMA !

[@dirmanbw336]

"What is the point of the debate if one of these points of view is objectively true"

[@EmeraldView]

@kouzou8 , so basically you don't get it.

[@fundemort]

Im wondering what shape they see the moon and the sun?

[@mikeflatbird729]

@Fundementort? There are some ball(ish) shaped lightbulbs in my kitchen ceiling, does that mean my kitchen Floor is a ball?...

[@fundemort]

@@mikeflatbird729 Might be. But I'm sure your lightbulbs are flat.

[@mikeflatbird729]

@FundemenTard? my kitchen "floor" will be a ball if my lightbulbs in my kitchen ceiling are??

[@tankinator451]

Well, you know what they say “don’t argue with an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”

[@maryn1385]

Chris Sherman lol

[@chiranjeev2277]

-Mark Twain

[@renatomagalhaes5941]

I've heard a similar sentence that pretty much compared arguing with an idiot to play chess with a pidget. It doesn't matter how calculated, precise and perfect your moves were, it will still mess the board, take a dump and fly away with a chest full of pride.

[@srnova9486]

What does "beat you with experience"mean

[@christianege4989]

@@srnova9486 it means flat earthers have great experience in beeing stupid, more than anybody else

[@markandrus8879]

Q: Why aren't there ANY flat earth maps with a scale for distance? I know why, do you? A: FE map can't EVER get actual distances accurate compared to what we can easily observe. So by not providing a scale, reality is simply dismissed and stupid people fall for it. Q: Why aren't there ANY flat earth maps with cities shown? I know why, do you? A: Similar to Q1 above. You can't account for distances between cities compared to what we know for a fact. The better reason to include this question is the fact that on FE map, there will be countless examples of cities that are farther north or south of each other than what we know to be true. Q: Why aren't there ANY flat earth maps with countries' borders shown? I know why, do you? A: Pennsylvania has 3 straight line borders with neighboring states and we can survey these borders proving this. On FE map, these borders become increasingly exaggerated curves the farther south you go. In Australia, it gets worse. 90% (or more) of their borders are straight but on FE map they'd be severely curved. Experiment: Pick 2 towns in America that are 200 miles* apart and connect them with a straight line**. Pick 2 towns in Australia that are 200 miles* apart and connect them with a straight line**. On FE map these 2 lines will be different lengths. How can 200 miles* be shorter in the northern hemisphere than 200 miles* in the southern hemisphere? It can't happen. 200 miles = 200 miles... ALWAYS...EVERYWHERE. Here ya go, I did it for you. 200 miles apart in America: Buffalo, NY to New Hartford, NY = 194 miles*** 200 miles apart in Australia: Wilcannia, NSW, Australia to Canbelego, NSW, Australia = 191 miles*** * Use any distance you want but make sure the towns in both countries are east/west of each other (on a globe). ** If these lines aren't straight enough for you, then there's no hope. You're gone. *** If these values aren't close enough to 200 miles for you and you want to use that to prove me wrong, then that's even more pathetic than simply admitting you're wrong. Good luck on that one... Now it's time for the bonus round where the prize is the truth!! Perth, Australia to Sydney, Australia = 2448 miles, driving. Draw a straight line on FE map. Los Angeles, CA to Florence, SC = 2477 miles, driving. Draw a straight line on FE map. The Aussie line is 83% longer than the American line. How can that be? Maybe the American road has a LOT more turns. OK, fine. How many miles by air are both routes? Aussie route = 2049 miles & American route = 2192 miles. The American distance is greater but the line drawn is MUCH shorter. The FE map is false to the point of being laughably ridiculous and fraudulent. I'll come back soon to see that my comment was deleted. You certainly can't have the truth seeping through your lies, so I get it.

[@Meso.Botamia]

This comment should go viral bro

[@markandrus8879]

@@Meso.Botamia Thank you. Wish I knew how to attach the pics I took of doing it. Can't wait to see the replies of jerks trying to take it apart.

[@Meso.Botamia]

@@markandrus8879 Nah they would probably give you a KZbin link then disappear forever.

[@calinfx270]

Awesome kung fu, my knowledge just increased. I used to have only GPS as a wrench to throw into the flat earth machinery, but now I'll have these map tools as well 😄

[@tjharley85]

This is how a wizard talks.

[@firstaidsack]

Wizards don't exist...

[@Serendarainbow]

@@firstaidsack actually they do. Not the Harry Potter Hollywood crap. Zachary King was a former satanic wizard. He preformed ritual sacrifices to satan at abortion clinics. He reported an abortion doctor pulled the baby out of the womb and tossed it on the floor were it was eaten a live by witchs. It amazing what knowledge lays outside ones own pool of knowledge.

[@nunyabusiness4800]

This guy is a mega wizard. He tried to convince Joe Rogan that pool ball is not as smooth as earth when scaled down to size. That is wizardry

[@phxgen]

@@nunyabusiness4800 no that is honesty and scale and mathematics, unless you've got a billiards ball manufactured with insane overkill tolerances.

[@paulnewhouse5126]

@@Serendarainbow Its funny how we can actually look this us up as factual things that have happened, Using "their" Fake news sites and stories, and OMG IT'S UNCLE JESSE!

[@DGKplayaz]

You can’t even take a flat earther in space and show them the globe through a window on the space shuttle. They’ll break the window thinking it’s a video screen and doom everyone onboard.

[@JayTronik1]

yea dude this was really funny, the sad thing is that it actually never happens. we dont fly to space and we dont see the globe in the fucking window every day or do we DGK playa? do we see this every fucking day? cause i dont fucking see it dude. I must have had sand in my eyes or something. Still funny, your comment, but think about when the last time you saw that big globe on your window

[@masterchief4189]

@@JayTronik1 He was talking about the dedicated and hardworking astronauts up their on the ISS, working their way even though their salary is small, someone has to do it. You flerfs don't even have a consistent working model.

[@JayTronik1]

@@masterchief4189 of course but he is not talking out of his personal or own experience. it's like me bragging about my grandpa that went in the army

[@boterlettersukkel]

@@JayTronik1 Ok.. personal experience: Prease provide me with a map of the flat earth that can be used to navigate on or give me a link to a map that conforms to reallity. I have a ship in Whangarei (NZ) and need to get to Guayaquil ( Equador). How far is that and how many days is that at 12 Knots?? How much fuel do I need at 10 ton/h The crew needs food for that time and they don't deliver pizza in the middle of the paciffic I know how it is calculated on a globe. Do YOU????

[@Mrdjunga]

if you can go in space..

[@tfp9978]

"Debate policy, not objective truth!" Very important, very good.

[@kubaw3372]

But not pertinent to the subject matter

[@thandasibisi7534]

I think it should be” Debate policy NOT what your education and training leads you to regard as “objective truth”.For example there is no point in debating a Creationist. You are arguing for a scientific theory based on observed facts while s/he is arguing for the “absolute truth” of Biblical creationism. These paradigms are irreconcilable!

[@temesgen4321]

So why are you telling people to be living in a global

[@squatttter]

@@thandasibisi7534 errr. A theory is not a fact. It's a theory. Theoretical. A fairy tale until proven.

[@theaube9834]

@@squatttter a theory is not a hypothesis, a theory is a whole lots of facts put together which then link and make sense

[@DanielMartinez-nw1pn]

What's a flat earther biggest fear? Winning a cruise trip because the cruise might fall off the edge.

[@chewy7192]

What edge?

[@micp100]

having the same face as you is worse

[@conspiracy1914]

flat earth dont have edge as far as we know of. the mixing of models is why it sounds you would have an edge

[@daxie__3210]

​@@micp100imagine resorting to insults instead of actual facts and logic to prove your ridiculous beliefs

[@humanbass]

I would love to see a single flat earth model that explains and predicts seasons, eclipses and tides.

[@boydmking1]

You are not looking into flat earth information, or you would have read Eric Dubay 200 Proofs the Earth is not a Spinning Ball by now. Gimme a break!

[@Favouritism_]

shut up flattard erics video was debunked million times

[@globestrikeback1888]

@@boydmking1 - Every time I see a flattard saying "eric dubay 200 proof", I giggle. All of those "proof" are so easy to debunk it get hilarious. To fall for that really shot how ignorant and dumb you must be....and gullible beyond measure.

[@Teeb2023]

@@boydmking1 _"or you would have read Eric Dubay 200 Proofs the Earth is not a Spinning Ball by now"_ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@Teeb2023]

@@RodneyHaltom No Rodders, he said a flat Earth model. Go on then, show us it!

[@runkus6136]

You cant change the mind of a person who refuses any data that doesn't support their perceived reality.

[@marcpelletier1366]

Can you see in 360 degrees?

[@Teeb2023]

@@marcpelletier1366 What's your point, Marc?

[@marcpelletier1366]

Anthony Rodemus What is your point of reference and I’ll answer.

[@fundemort]

Im wondering what shape they see the moon and the sun?

[@marcpelletier1366]

Fundemort Grey Prime Defender of Truth and Justice flat like a tree

[@XCampX]

All flat earth you tubers say that Science can’t be trusted, but in the same breath claim to use science to prove flat earth.

[@ottomais]

Science dosen' t proof nothing,,science discribes !

[@captasticts8419]

they either don't use science or claim that the mainstream scientific community isn't to be trusted. so no, at least they are consistent with their opinion on science.

[@captasticts8419]

@@ottomais at least natural sciences

[@nykterion7]

Science is one thing dummy, pseudoscience is another

[@adamman8874]

Globe Earthers are too egotistical to acknowledge that they've been conned.

[@ImCrabman_]

If the Earth was flat we would never experience night time.

[@Seedavis397]

Horrible argument

[@clagen86]

"Who is B.oB.?" That was where the conversation should have ended.

[@sam_parallax]

Corey Lagen a creative genius

[@cautionTosser]

Corey Lagen I went straight to the Googlemobile

[@nachfullbarertrank5230]

A.. fiften degree per hour drift. Now, obviously we were taken aback by that. Wow, that's kind of, a problem, UAHAHUAHAHA, right? We obviously were not willing to accept that, and so we started looking for ways to disprove that it was actually registering the motion of the earth, and that it was, in fact, registering the motion of the sky. Energies of the heaven.

[@brianpurcell833]

@@nachfullbarertrank5230 Wat

[@nachfullbarertrank5230]

@@brianpurcell833 You ask for bob, you get bob.

[@aayaneqbal6873]

Flat Earthers: I use Math n Physics to prove that the Earth is flat Also Flat Earthers: Science is fake!

[@boterlettersukkel]

NEVER use flat earth and science in one sentence. There is no flat earth science.

[@freddan6fly]

Flerfers use meth, because they misheard when we normal people said we use math.

[@Jeriun]

Science is fake unless it's convenient. That's how they'll justify it without ever saying it

[@freddan6fly]

@ste emiplan I guess you are on some kind of drug. What you wrote makes totally no sense to me, sober.

[@freddan6fly]

@ste emiplan Can you use google translate to translate into English? Or ask a friend to help? I guess you have never seen a model of the solar system. Almost all science museums have one. Go to a science museum and try it out for a day. You show both lack of ability to write coherent sentences, you lack basic understanding of celestial mechanics, and you lie a bit. That's why you end up with this incoherent mess. And you haven't by far proven that the light from stars cannot be seen on earth. In fact you should try to go outdoor during a night. Ask your mummy how late you can stay up, and select a cloudless night. If you look up you will see planets and stars, and sometimes the moon.

[@grapy83]

it's just so hilarious what people get upset about on internet. It makes me feel like humanity has no important stuff left to do.

[@steveswangler6373]

grapy so you dont think battling scientific ignorance is important? i'd love to hear what you believe is important, because scientific ignorance is what leads idiots to think the pandemic is a hoax, to think Bill Gates wants to implant microchips in everyone using a vaccine, to back a proven dishonest moron instead of doctors and scientists that actually study. flat earth is the beginning, and yes people are right to get upset about morons spreading ignorance. perhaps you need to learn to think critically, there's something important you can do. here in the United States, the republican party has discredited teachers and education so much, and defunded education so deeply, that we are no longer near the top in science or math scores. this leads to a lack of innovative thinkers and inventors. it leads to a lack of critical thinking in the populace, which leads to tax raising and budget raising ronald reagan being hailed as a tax cutter and budget cutter. this leads to people supporting an open racist for president. this leads to our nation falling farther and farther behind the rest of the industrialized world in manufacturing, as well as freedom. this is just a part of why it is important to not let people like flat earthers spread stupidity. if you dont think that's important, then maybe you need to rethink your position.

[@jamesgreene3064]

well put steve..

[@unnamedchannel1237]

For lots of people life is to easy leaving. A lot of free time. Instead of doing or studying something constructive they dwell on petty things

[@Grimmjeaux]

Never in history of humanity have people been able to think as freely as they're doing it now. That freedom comes with the price of some inconvenience. Thinking loudly is very important to give words to those who don't speak for themselves or are too passive. I think Internet should be taken rather seriously. Trolls aside, what people present here might be the moat true state of their thoughts, to be made public which should be presented publicly and anonymously in my humble opinion.

[@ach3474]

@@steveswangler6373 I'm a polygraph lie detector guy,and this guy his clearly lying, about what 🤷🏾‍♂️ I don't know but his laying.

[@Snowwie88]

So by this logic (and no, I am not a Flat Earther), in a primarily American *Christian* society, if people who believe in other religions (Buddhism, Islam or even Jehovah Witnesses) would go from door to door to 'persuade' others to join that particular religion, is that also considered an "unhealthy situation", because those religions have far more other cultural ideas than the Christian religion. The norms and values within those religions are sometimes completely against Western society. Still, they are allowed to practice it, build their places of worship and actively 'recruit' people to join them. But nobody stops that.

[@seeddub3536]

Apples to oranges

[@codeplaysgames7681]

I love the fact flat earthers exist, they make me think and look smart.

[@ahmedjagirdar2773]

@@KangenAlec perhaps they are delusional and don't want to believe facts. Perhaps seeking attention too

[@squatttter]

@@KangenAlec he wouldn't have a clue. If he believes the earth is a globe, he has trouble thinking for himself.

[@Seopy]

@@KangenAlec they believe dumb shit too easily. Thats how a person becomes a flattard.

[@12seahawks12]

@@squatttter how smart are you to think for yourself in a field of study you never studied and not just believe the people who spend their whole lives studying something. I dont see you worried about finding an alternative to fossil fuels but you must think global warming is bullshit too. Sorry, “flat earth warming”. Get to work dude! Solve our problems! Teach us the truth! 👎

[@fritsvansanten9065]

So that makes you a Glob earther 🤣😂??

[@billyzig]

“Question everything, and if someone tells you not to question it; then question it - even more!”

[@timbaldwin9951]

Sure, question everything. Just don't be so damn gullible.

[@billyzig]

@@timbaldwin9951 Exactly. Like listening to NDT as if he's an all-knowing God.

[@timbaldwin9951]

@@billyzig No. NDT just repeats what every scientist, physicist and astrophysicist say. I'm talking about the gullible flat earth folks. Bunch of high school science flunkies.

[@finnicknoth6409]

@Billy Zig Yes, it Is important to question and wonder, but it doesn't mean that you yourself are the only right one, learn the facts. If people are claiming you don't understand a certain subject, ask a professional, re learn the subject, etc. You can't just go around claiming 2500 years of science (the very same science that gives us internet, faster communications, naval and flight directional gps', etc.) is false, because it isn't, if you aren't certain, ask someone, or google it, you have all the information you'll ever need. Our amassed human knowledge through centuries, in something the size of a plate.

[@billyzig]

@@timbaldwin9951 Yeah, exactly. He is just another parrot.

[@daveholmes5540]

Flat earther argument. "yes I know its a fact, and that it proves its a globe but I have invalid evidence that says its flat"

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

Or, yes you have science and history and facts on your side, but I have this useless, distorted image, so I win!

[@daveholmes5540]

@@Mandelbrot_Set dont forget. "nevermind your complicated math equation that consistently work, I have a p900, a table and a coin"

[@daveholmes5540]

@Q.E. D true, in fact they seem rather proud of being wrong. Awake but wrong.😂

[@flatearthanswers]

Actually not finding any curvature, ANYWHERE proves it's flat. Balls curve, this ball doesn't

[@1laforees829]

The holy TV for the space religion is all the evidence they need. And alot of heavy indoctrination 5 days a week of believe us because we said so.

[@GheorgheStanciu-v1y]

Everyone asks questions and asks for proof of the flat earth, but once provided they ignore them because the programming goes against it.

[@Mark-Stone]

There is no proof of flat earth, champ. There’s only scientific illiteracy, misapprehension, personal incredulity, religious dogma, anti-authoritarian hysteria, and downright ignorance.

[@breezy28333]

Exactly, Just like he said “I won’t enter a debate when I’m objectively right and the other person is wrong” 😂 what an ironic joke of a statement. Man believes so deep in his heart that he is right, and anyone who says different, is so wrong that he won’t even have a word to say to them. Almost like this is why debates exist.

[@DarrenSaw]

Flat earth is the dumbest hoax on the internet. The flat earth 'comnunity' is made up of qualified in nothing grifters that make a meagre living from gullible idiots.

[@zach3136]

We don't debate them to convert the other debater to flat earth - we debate them to show their lemming followers the ridiculousness of the globe claims - and THAT is the reason that they won't debate us.

[@batswbennett]

"Everyone"? lol. Most people don't care what you believe nor why you believe in something with no objective evidence. That's the thing.

[@ShawnRavenfire]

Thank you! I've bee saying for years that debating is no way to settle a disagreement. In a debate, you can't change or modify your position, you can't go away and come back later when you have new information, you can't do actual experiments, and you can't agree to disagree. It doesn't reach scientific truths. It doesn't change anyone's mind. It doesn't even settle courtroom disagreements, because courtrooms have rules and procedures that aren't reflected in formal debates. It doesn't even really affect the way people vote, because most people's minds are made up before the debate even starts. The only thing a debate is good for is a "game" played by high school students. Plus, when you debate someone who clearly has no basis or expertise, you present the other person as an "equal" to yourself, and in the process, partially validates any ridiculous position.

[@Teeb2023]

Yep, all true.

[@ZeroOskul]

@Jack DaltonFlat Earth can only be proved through debate. Round Earth can only be proved by demonstration. Why debate the demonstration? hold a paper flat to your hand and spin. It stays stuck to your hand because you are pushing it sideways faster than it can fall down. Put a rock in water and take it out, it is covered with water because it is wet, and the water stays. Why debate this?

[@captasticts8419]

@@ZeroOskul what are you even talking about, what's your point?? why even reply to jack dalton specifically if nothing you say is related to their comment.

[@captasticts8419]

sorry but: that is absolute nonsense.

[@ZeroOskul]

@@captasticts8419 Jack Dalton's comment was that the idea that debating facts versus opinions is useless was total BS. I replied that One thing can only be proved through debate while the other can only be proved through observation. I then gave several demonstrations Jack Dalton could perform to prove that facts are not debatable. My reply to Jack Dalton was plainly in direct response to everything Jack Dalton presented to this thread Why are you pretending to be illiterate yet able to communicate through text?

[@geraldmahoney4856]

Again, we don’t need to prove anything to flat earthers.

[@garywilson3042]

Gerald Mahoney yes but let’s do it anyway, more fun.

[@dimitrisvill1411]

Yes but im bored and i want to make a 20something year old guy with the mind of a 2 year old spend his time typing more than his phones ram is capable of.

[@jameshorton5395]

If we (especially the experts) don't respond to flat earthers some children will believe in the myths.

[@TheHitmanAgent]

James Horton No, by arguing with them you drag yourself down to their level. And needless to say, it would be in vain

[@squatttter]

Probably because you can't.

[@MaxxMcGeePrivate]

I only know one Bob and he found the 15 degree per hour drift. Legendary.

[@chandlerjeffries1892]

No, the Bob your referencing found the Aether moving like michelson-morley had tested in the 1920's. The same Aether Albert Einstein killed. The Aether now is used to describe dark matter, University studies.

[@MaxxMcGeePrivate]

@@chandlerjeffries1892 Definitely not the Bob I'm talking about. Be careful with the ether next time, don't breathe it.

[@mrhawkyoudown6333]

Maxx McGee ,you may wanna go look at the experiment Nikolas Tesla did in which he also proved aether. a study in 1986 also proved aether they used the best equipment yet.

[@billS-c3n]

"Thanks, Bob."

[@abelrodriguez2082]

What's drifting ?

[@darrallipke8070]

Perfect answer, never fight a war of wits with an unarmed person.

[@SysterYster]

Those words at the beginning of the video are so true. If a person is good with words and acts very confident, that person often wins the debate. I had a debate with one like that once, it was incredibly frustrating because I was right and he was wrong. But I couldn't make him, or the ones around him, see that because he wasn't stumbling over his words like I did and he sounded smart. (To be fair, he is pretty smart, but he was still wrong this time). Extremely annoying that is.

[@SysterYster]

@Q.E. D Yeah, sadly.

[@dirkardostevergreen4827]

There was a flat earth debate about a year ago between a famous flat earther, Dave Murphy, and a scientist (may have been an astrophysicist, I can’t remember). Dave said all the usual flat earth crap we’ve all heard a thousand times but the science guy clearly wasn’t prepared for all the nonsense coming out of Dave’s mouth and stumbled his way through the debate - plus English wasn’t his first language to make it worse. So, of course, Dave won the debate easily and all the flatties took it as a win. Does that mean he was right? Hell no! Dave is a moron. But he was charismatic and well rehearsed with his flat earth bs.

[@SysterYster]

@@dirkardostevergreen4827 Yeah, but idiots don't understand that sadly. :/

[@CostcoJellyfish]

Isn’t Tyson good with words and acts very confident? I can’t think of anyone better. Sounds like a cop out to me. Scientists debate each other all the time. Tyson isn’t a scientist. He’s a museum curator. He’s a talking points go to guy. That’s why he doesn’t want to debate.

[@RaRuleTheGod]

I agree! Been through this several times. I didn’t stumble but do to the fact the facts were alien to the audience it made the person seem to be right bc they all wasn’t educated

[@Bobbotov]

The one thing that I could never find an explanation on by Flat Earthers is how did a flat earth come into existence. We know how the spherical earth was formed through accretion but I cannot find any Flat Earther give an explanation on how a flat earth was formed.

[@boterlettersukkel]

Their explanation...... GODDIDIT.... Because..... reasons.

[@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals]

@@boterlettersukkel GOD Created Life On Earth.

[@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals]

@@boterlettersukkel GOD Made The Earth In 4.543 Billion Years And It Was A Sphere.

[@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals]

Exactly! Because The Earth Is A Sphere.

[@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals]

Not Even GOD Can Make A Flat Earth As It Would Crumble Like Paper. The Earth Is Obviously A Sphere.

[@Nautilus1972]

If the Earth was flat the sun would rise at the same time everywhere. It's such a logic fail to believe the Earth is flat when you can't get around that argument.

[@captasticts8419]

no, it would not.

[@boudewijndalhuisen6169]

Michael Hämmerle Think for yourself, Dont parrot bullshit. Flat earth is impossible

[@ambrosioramirez9608]

@@captasticts8419 EXPLAIN IT THEN!!!!

[@captasticts8419]

explain what??

[@amberjade3414]

Only if you're talking about the massive giant fireball they tell you is the, but if it's inside the dome it would be much smaller. Duh.

[@paulranger5250]

Anyone who says to me that the world is flat is a person that I could never seriously have a conversation with about science/tech. They lack the ability to think critically in an age when we have airplanes, spaceships and satellites flying above and orbiting the earth. Stupidity is alive and kicking!

[@JohnDickson-m3r]

It's not critical thinking it's call free thinking ur probably not a scientist or a tech u probably never flu a plane or a shuttle I'm pretty sure u never launched a satellite...ur doing what flat earthers do listen to people and say u believe it

[@BroncoJosh]

​@@JohnDickson-m3rJust because they're thinking freely doesn't mean its the correct thinking. You don't need to be a scientist, a technologist, fly a plane, or launch a satellite to see that the earth is not flat. All you need to do is look at mundane everyday observations and use common sense.

[@hmdshokri]

1:48 Old meme lives on...

[@andrewchen2673]

Every flat earth believer was dropped on their head at some point

[@arkansasisbetterthanyouthi3963]

hulk thruster they brainwash us with true facts proven time and time again. You try and brainwash us with stuff that has been disproven. No wonder everyone thinks your crazy, I remember when a flat earth spent a bunch of money but accidentally proved the earth was round.

[@jahluu6825]

@hulk thruster lol u guys proved the earth is round

[@dogwalker666]

@@arkansasisbetterthanyouthi3963 "a 15 degree per hour drift" , Thanks Bob. It was hilarious dumb flerfs.

[@phildavenport4150]

@Planet Earth If you can stand it, look at the Globebuster vids. They're now convincing each other that the laser ring gyro test actually "proved" that the Earth is flat. But you won't see it anywhere outside their own echo chamber. Maybe the sound of laughter disturbs their sensibilities.

[@fritsvansanten9065]

Go watch TV , Forget about this subject . Your smart ☺️

[@piccoloatburgerking]

The fact that "flat earth believers" is even a thing in this era is enough reason why i don't take society and people seriously.

[@goncalobaia1574]

Thank you, I've given up as well, it's just so much more peaceful

[@renatomagalhaes5941]

I honestly believe the flat earth believers are proof that any education system has failed the people. Truthfully, if you don't learn how to critically think and really understand the basics in our foundation as humans (education), everything is possible. Including flat earth believers.

[@fritsvansanten9065]

Cmon man ...we have man who believe they are women. And we accept it . But this is not Okey 🤣😂🤣😂??

[@alien9279]

Really shows a massive failure our our education systems. We need massive investment and reform on education, especially in hard to reach rural areas!

[@redoz9768]

And why do you believe in the Spherical Earth theory, because you've researched it and found it to be true, or because you were taught to believe it as you grew up, and now the idea is entrenched in you?

[@mikewiththebluecar]

You didn’t shut down anything he just refused to debate the topic. If you wanted to shut them down you might mention something like it’s impossible to create a flat map of the earth that’s to scale.

[@VasBaev]

Twitter is, for all its flaws, a great vehicle for illustrating crossovers among groups of followers.

[@VasBaev]

@@DrBrainTickler 1. Humans are wired for identity and group belonging. 2. When has this ever NOT been the case in human history lol 3. No it hasn't been criminalised, although I suspect you're being hyperbolic. 4. There's no evidence Earth is overpopulated by humans, but our current resource allocation/use is not sustainable. 5. Humans transcended being an "invasive species" the moment we became a global species. 6. We're an inherent part of this biosphere with the ability to actually do something about the impact we have. Literally no other living thing we know of has that in their hands.

[@StoneCoolds]

@@DrBrainTickler you fail terrible in identifying flattards group, most of them are fanatic Christians radicals, and thats why they believe that, an all the rest is "the devils deception"

[@scurvofpcp]

@@StoneCoolds I've been trying to engage with flatearthers, just to feel out the population, and while my sample size is small and it is a subjective measurement, I would say that about 1/3rd of them are just trolls doing it for the lulz, which...may actually be worse.

[@erebus6453]

"First i searched, who is BOB." If this isn't a hard burn i don't know what is😂😂😂😂

[@PhaseControlDNB]

1:49 - he's reviving the meme :D

[@ViratKohli-jj3wj]

We have got a Badass over there

[@d.n.3652]

Phase Control he is the meme

[@Cepheid_]

Physicists rise UP

[@mcparts7249]

I finally found one in the wild yesterday, never though it would happen😅 i didnt discuss with him, because i know that no matter what scientific argument i could come up with, he would have some kind of fairytale as to why that could not be true, or simply ignore it.

[@conspiracy1914]

I got bitten by one 2 years ago and turned in to one. its good

[@wookjohnsonsspeedpaints4736]

Fairy tale? Like nasa, space, gravity, fake station, satellites, moon landings, don petit being hired by any serious organization. Degrass tyson as a credible source?

[@is4349]

You can’t win an argument with an idiot. I’ve noticed there’s quite a few in KZbin comment sections.

[@derp8575]

You mean "he wouldn't believe any official narrative". Meanwhile, Artemis was delayed, AGAIN. Question for round earth ree-ree's: How many years of moon landing delays will it take before it raises red flags?

[@mcparts7249]

@@derp8575 no, i meant what i wrote :) and lets not start a debate as to the shape of things and/or if humans visited x places. It's a waste of time for both of us. Have a nice day🙏

[@MrLolito123]

1:49 We have a badass over here

[@andyisdead]

classic

[@7Earthsky]

He gave the badass signal. lol.

[@1laforees829]

He's a great preacher for this religion.

[@antimeta4960]

Quantum Douche Plus I got your back Nye

[@aarnavchaturvedi2552]

@XxxxX xxx dude you're subbed to Thomas deLauer, you don't get to talk about stupidity

[@ULATAN.]

ALL debates should have fact checkers on site checking the debaters in real time lol.

[@imakeadifference2011]

1:48 careful old man, that's how you start a meme

[@AGFuzzyPancake]

Neil deGrasse Tyson said the earth is flat. Pack your bags, boys. Debate over. Science has lied to us for generations... What else have we been lied to about..?

[@RobertEmery]

@Pakalolo Boy r/ whoosh

[@ShropshireFox]

@Pakalolo Boy *you're :/

[@firstaidsack]

@@AGFuzzyPancake Just because he said so, doesn't mean that's true.

[@AGFuzzyPancake]

@@firstaidsack umm.. yeah it does. It's Neil deGrasse Tyson.

[@narnia6701]

That last part said it all, "if you believe its flat , good on you but dont influence people about it becaus its dangerous " Now why is it dangerous? because people will find out the truth that God is real and a round earth is to uphold the illusion that God doesnt exist.

[@warmachineuk]

A conspiracy to hide God by lying about the shape of the Earth that is so effective, Christianity is the biggest religion in the world. You're off the deep end. Take your meds.

[@yazzamx6380]

So you're saying you're not a Christian Narnia? :-|

[@narnia6701]

@@yazzamx6380 honestly , I don't know , too much has been kept from us to even know what I believe in nowadays . From now on I am nothing and there is nothing

[@yazzamx6380]

@@narnia6701 - The problem is not what is kept from us, the problem is those who claim they know what is kept from us and so make up whatever that they think will grow them a following of believers, making them more deceitful and more dishonest than the gvmts and authorities they say 'we' shouldn't trust. Flat Earth theorists are a perfect example :-|

[@BroncoJosh]

No, because it's actually not as much about the shape of the earth. While the shape of the earth is part of it, you also have to look at the psychological aspect of it. Really all it is is just people who've failed at life and have nothing better to do than become a victim of an imaginary system that they created to hold some sort of moral superiority over everyone else rather than taking accountability for their failures to learn anything and lack of good life choices. So, it's not so much about the shape of the earth. It's more about the psychology of delusional narcissists. You can teach facts to them, but at the end of the day, nothing is going to persuade them back into reality. They ask for proof, but then when you give it to them, they ignore it and ask it again, then pass that off as critical thinking. The thing is, they don't actually want proof. Because if they did, they'd do their own research. But they don't because they know it'll give them a definitive answer. But not the answer they want. They care more about their bubble than actual truth. They hold double standards when it comes to evidence, and their delusional narcissism is keeping them from realizing that they've fallen for a lie.

[@Project_2501]

Within the first minute he practically describes the whole american court system.

[@happyjack1019]

Apparently it’s not a planet it’s a realm there is no edge - we’re in a Matrix

[@patrickallen5781]

You have no idea how big of a matrix you are in.

[@happyjack1019]

Patrick Allen how do you know what I know ?

[@SterlingSimmons22]

Well the universe is infinite so if you consider that as a matrix then by all means you’d be correct

[@2ANYS]

DrSterlingSimmons XD infinite? Cute beLIEf.

[@jamesb6818]

DrSterlingSimmons, except the universe is not infinite.

[@humanbeing1429]

The curvature can't be seen on a farm backyard or by walking a few metres away from a pole. Get over the fact that the earth is too big and you're a grain of salt compared to it.

[@IvanSensei88]

Even a grain of salt is too big for a comparison.. more like a microbe compared to it.

[@nayannbg6314]

That happens when ego gets bigger than knowledge. We will be drowned in a river and we are talking about the earth which primarily has 5 oceans

[@squatttter]

@@nayannbg6314 yeah like one of those rivers or oceans that has no curvature that will ever be witnessed. 👍

[@neildegrassetysonwithaknife]

@@squatttter except it can be witnessed in a plane? It can be witnessed by looking at a clear horizon? What are you on?

[@EveRoissy]

With a stated elevation loss of 8 inches per mile squared on a globe earth 25,000 miles in circumference, many far-away objects are visible that should be hidden behind curvature. The mainstream disingenuously claims this is “atmospheric” phenomena or a kind of “mirage”, but it’s too pervasive to be either of those. The globe model does not add up if we are to take them at their word with the “facts” provided about the dimensions of the globe earth.

[@7prudent]

"Everybody has different opinions. We should respect them all. Even if it means agreeing to disagree" is something I would never say or think lol.

[@los_reyes9517]

It’s funny seeing the scared flat earthers hiding in the replies.

[@westonwilliams8694]

? You should read. It helps.

[@masterchief4189]

A small portion of brave flerfs go out from hiding actually.

[@ratman7212]

@@westonwilliams8694 you a flat earther?

[@westonwilliams8694]

@@ratman7212 what difference does it make.

[@ratman7212]

@@westonwilliams8694 it's just a question I don't criticize either way

[@vincentrobinette1507]

The winner isn't the one with the best point.....Its the one who can YELL THE LOUDEST!!!!!!

[@Justwantahover]

Most flat earthers won't shut up and just continually talk over their opponent. That's how they "win".

[@maxziegenbusch5965]

Him saying he had to look up who BOB was is the ultimate form of shade

[@Ezekiel365Days]

Who is BOB even I don’t know who he is

[@moe516]

A great salesman can sell ice to Eskimos.

[@dylanzacher3474]

How much ice did you buy of Neil

[@MikeBlackbird]

_"Strange times are these in which we live when young and old are taught falsehoods in schools and the person (people) who dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and a fool"_

[@MikeBlackbird]

@QED - Pfft, yeah..i thought i still smelled your _stank-ass_ still Lingering around this neighborhood..

[@MikeBlackbird]

Professor Bird is going to give you some weekend homework to do, m'kay?! i want you to read a book - and i want your 10-page Essay on my desk by this MooNday morning, m'kay, (book) "KINGS GOT dethrOWNED" - In "Kings Dethroned", a book written in 1922, Gerard Hickson, the author, who wasn't even a flat earth believer per 'se, refutes Pythagoras, Hipparchus, Kepler, Galileo, Copernicus, Roemer, Kant, Newton, and Einstein. All within a 91 page book... yes it was that easy - Each of these (those) "scientists" went off on a tangent, building on the rationalizations of their predecessors -Zzz.....

[@MikeBlackbird]

@QED - what "science" -and for the last time, science only means knowledge (Latin SCIENTIA). But what "science" are you talking about? i'd love to know, because i've been using the so-called "scientific METHOD" to achieve my findings/conclusions, which is science aka KNOWLEDGE GAINED, through observation, testing, experimentation, investigation and researching, and etc etc.... and it comes out flat & stationary ever time (repeatable) therefore.."science" (knowledge gained)....

[@MikeBlackbird]

what? where is there a video of "multiple sticks" from 2005 - nevermind i see / found what you're talking about. one of your videos? for one it says 2009 not 2005 - but more importantly, what makes you claim they're using "multiple" sticks

[@ComradeJehannum]

@@MikeBlackbird Sly Sparkane proved the globe with stick just a couple years ago. He even invited people like yourself to join in, but none of you were interested. Last year FTFE attempted to do the same thing, but the website he was using got swamped with rubbish and the project had to be stopped.

[@stuarthall4191]

Can you please explain why a flat earther has never ever gone to the edge of the flat earth and taken pictures to prove that there is an edge? Can you tell me about the other planets, are they also flat? How come all of the other planets look like round globes, and their rotation can be observed? Why are all of the other planets different from our planet? What holds up the sun so that it can go around in a circle above the flat earth? What makes the sun move? What holds the moon up in the sky and why do the sun and the moon never collide as they are circling in the sky over the flat earth? Can you please explain how thick is the disk, and what is on the other side? If I drill all the way through the disk what would l see on the other side? We know that volcano's spew out molten magma but where does all of that hot magma live when it’s not actually blowing out of a volcano and what heats it up so that the rocks melt? You tell us that there is no gravity, and you tell us that everything can be explained by density and buoyancy, but how do they work without gravity? What makes a lighter thing rise, and a heavier thing fall if there is no such thing as gravity? What explains the phases of the moon and why does the moon go through the different phases every 28 days?

[@boterlettersukkel]

Flerfs can not explain things.

[@dexterjettster3683]

They believe that nASa iS gUArDInG tHE eDGe and that tHE sOLaR sYStEm iS fAkE

[@boterlettersukkel]

@@KangenAlec < is just a TROLL.

[@Vyz3r]

Flat earthers, explain me this. If the earth is flat, why do we all see the same side of the moon no matter where you are? If the moon is rising, we should see one side and another side once it sets, but why isn't it? Also, if the sun is behind the moon, how does the moon get its full moon or any of the moon phases for that matter?

[@dogwalker666]

And why do we see different angles of the phases.

[@shirinshourcheh9997]

@@dogwalker666 exactly and why It even appears on day time and It doesn't have set angles. appears anytime.

[@redoz9768]

There's only one side to the Moon. It's like a dinner plate, not a basketball. It turns like a wheel as it moves through the sky.

[@Vyz3r]

@@redoz9768 That makes no sense. If it is turning, why does it look the same no matter where you are? And if it is what you believe it is, shouldn't you still be able to see it turning? So why do we not see it turn? Also, how does the moon get any of its moon phases and be stationary for that matter if it is turning like a wheel? Have you ever thought about this? It doesn't add up and makes no sense.

[@redoz9768]

@@Vyz3r It doesn't look the same no matter where you are, the face of the moon changes position as it moves around the world. You can see it turning if you observe photographs taken over a 24 hour period.

[@MrConnorTV1]

But his last point applies to "how many genders are there" yet he refuses to talk about that, because he does not want to be cancelled.

[@Malt454]

Yeah, exactly: someone simply being willing to "debate" something does not, in itself, make it "debatable". "I don't believe" is not the same thing as saying "I can prove differently".

[@Paygelove]

Malt454 our point is we CAN prove fe

[@nunyabusiness4800]

Show me the curve

[@n1k32h]

Them curves are sexy though

[@sphaera2520]

First of all, let’s clear up something. Science doesn’t prove. With that out of the way, I’m going to assume you meant “prove” colloquially and respond in a similar fashion. Y’all can’t “prove” shit. You don’t have a map. You can’t tell me, using fe cosmology, when and where the solar eclipse in 2030 will happen. You pretend there isn’t a south celestial pole. You pretend anybody can’t just snap a photo of the iss with a decent camera or a telescope. You pretend we haven’t bounced radio waves and lasers off the moon. Y’all keeping it real just means head stuck in the sand. When you’ve produced something useful let me know, then I’ll start taking you seriously. Until then, y’all just an example of what not to be.

[@benjaminharris6175]

@@sphaera2520 lol sure I'll take a shot at you on this one tuff guy. Let's start with the "yall dont have a map". Ok humans have been traveling by sea for well over a thousand years using said "maps". The earth has been round for what the last 500 or so years? So why did the flat earth maps work so go before the earth was round? Have you ever seen how they make a globe. They simply take the old flat map and make it into a ball. It's the same map. Now big guy which one was here first? I know that's tuff but I'll help you out, the flat one was here first. Next there are plenty of pictures of the ice walls you are just not willing to understand how brain washed you are to get it. Let's put it in a way that makes money, since that is what makes the world go around lol. As told by the first recorded person to reach said south pole there are mountains of coal, enough oil to supply the earth for 500 years and uranium but no one can even petition to go there for the natural resources because of penguins? That was signed into effect 1 December 1959. And was signed by countries that were at war fighting over the very shit that was there. Not only can no company go get it no one can just go visit the place. Lastly you talk about bouncing shit off the moon. Ok so I'm gonna go out on a limb you would say we have went to the moon? That means that on 6 different trips a total of 12 men defied all medical proof and breathed 100% oxygen and not only didn't die but never passed out or had any medical problems after. For starters we can not breath 100% oxygen for long periods. You have to have nitrogen in the system or it doesn't work correctly. Any doctor can confirm this. 1 day ok 2 days ayah ok 3 days hhhhhmmm dizzy and passed out. 4 days comma. 6 days death by suffocating. That's right little fella, in a 100% oxygen environment we will actually suffocate. Poor guy I know your brain hurts right now but I if you take the nitrogen out of the system the alveoli that are elastic will close and then there is no gas exchange in the lungs. This means medically no person could have gone to the moon which is where all the ball earth pictures came from. And to back up said claim NASA admittedly lost and destroyed all telemetry data that proves they did go lol. How convenient. How was that for round 1 little tuff guy?

[@justindunlap1235]

"Those are fighting words." A sentence I never thought I would hear him say.

[@GudJonnyCakes]

And fighting is going toe to toe in a debate but yet he won't debate nobody but says they are fighting words he's giving you the runaround

[@3p1ks]

Flat Earthers probably clicked on this video just to comment and paused the video at the start. My man proved a huge point and Flat Earthers are scared to hear it lmao.

[@michaelboibodas]

Yea, real scared. So scared we didn’t hear anything but HEARSAY. No scientific evidence shown or illustrated. Explains absolutely NOTHING but a atheist tool he is. Repent Jesus is coming soon.

[@ColinRichardson]

To the people who say they absolutely believe the earth is flat, they should have GPS removed from their phone.

[@bobsmith175]

I don't use GPS. I don't trust it because it's based on the Earth being round

[@ColinRichardson]

@@bobsmith175 It's actually based on the earth being spherical, I believe it's the Flat earthers who believe the world is a round disc.

[@bobsmith175]

@@ColinRichardson you know what I mean

[@ColinRichardson]

@@bobsmith175 If you can't say what you mean, I then how do I know if you mean what you say?

[@bobsmith175]

@@ColinRichardson 😑 the Earth is not a sphere and it is flat

[@seahorse5689]

My personal fav: "So, what does that Venn diagram look like?"

[@sophonax661]

I wish it were that easy to know what is objectively true in other more complex issues than the shape of our planet

[@thstroyur]

All objectivity is subjective, which further complicates things here...

[@DonCDXX]

If you want objective truth, become a mathematician.

[@ZeroOskul]

What do you not know to be objectively true?

[@thstroyur]

@@DonCDXX Fair enough - set theory, ZF or ZFC - which is objectively true?

[@ZeroOskul]

@@thstroyur It is objectively true that ZF and ZFC are both the exact same thing and are also set theories so all three are set theory.

[@emancoy]

Debate people with questionable intelligence and sanity? Not worth my time.

[@flatearthjackal9201]

Enjoy your spinning ball earth sci-fi fantasy cult 😁

[@memoisnothere3537]

flat earth Jackal 😂 you’re joking right

[@globestrikeback1888]

@@memoisnothere3537 - Nop, I think he is serious.

[@memoisnothere3537]

GlobeStrikeBack dam that’s unfortunate

[@globestrikeback1888]

@@memoisnothere3537 - Yea, somethings when wrong somewhere with education system and society it seem.

[@honeykim1290]

this comment section is filled with flat earthers.

[@douglasmanning4072]

Earth is flat. I don't feel like debating people.

[@shunlee8959]

Douglas Manning 😂

[@SherifShaalan]

Puppets don't debate . . . because they can't . If this puppet indeed does have objective truth PLUS charm, charisma, good vocabulary and way with words, why not enter a debate? What would he have to lose?

[@goose33]

If flat earth wasnt true this much ammo wouldnt be expended against it

[@silversurfer6360]

Eeem no people are just worried that the ignorance of people is growing soo much . also flath earth is a gateway to others dangerous conspiracy .

[@goose33]

@@silversurfer6360 its not "dangerous " to think the world is flat lollll

[@CantSettleOnAName]

@@goose33 Sure. It's not dangerous _at all_ to throw out verifiable information. Otherwise, the Measles would be making a comeback. Oh, wait.

[@goose33]

@@CantSettleOnAName lol he who believes msm is a fool. I see measles nowhere

[@ComradeJehannum]

@@goose33 "flat earth" is the gateway drug to all other conspiracies.

[@kermit368]

I was a surveyor, we had to account for the curvature of earth with what’s called azimuth convergence correction, we also had to account for curvature regarding elevation on projects involving long highways etc. If you didn’t, you get erroneous data that doesn’t match the real world. (Grids way in the air etc) Well, I told this to a flat earther and they flat out dismissed it and said nobody in the world accounts for curvature, I was an idiot, I don’t know what I’m talking about, and they’ve done the math and I’m wrong. Oh really? Show me the math then since apparently I don’t do this for a living every day… of course they couldn’t. I showed them the equations for this and their only response was sending me a few ridiculous memes that weren’t even relevant, while telling me I was making myself look stupid. When people don’t understand something it tends to anger them. They refuse objective reasoning and substitute their own, while resorting to ad hominem, and infinite ignorance in the process.

[@warmachineuk]

Don't forget the conspiracy theory. Some flat Earthers claim the world is run by a small, secretive, worldwide elite telling everyone not just what to do but how to do it. Apparently, not only do you not understand your own job, someone else is doing the data analysis for you. Flat Earthers not only can't understand mathematics, they have no concept of organisation.

[@giannisk.916]

Even ancient Greeks thousands of years ago knew the Earth is round by the way.

[@LilR12]

That's embarrassing

[@steadychasingmoneybands6213]

the debate isnt if its round lmaoooo mans missed the whole assignment

[@mrwilsonwilson9599]

I like how upset people get about the shape of the earth .....

[@ComradeJehannum]

@Joe Smith but there's nothing scientific that shows a flat earth.

[@ComradeJehannum]

​@Joe Smith let's go through this pile of shit. 1. Yes they do. Because despite how much zoom you apply you'll never bring back EVERY INCH of a ships hull. But can you explain why you can see the crows nest of a ship before the rest of it? Globe confirmed 2. Which "calculable curve"? Because if your talking "8 inches per mile squared" that isn't accurate at one mile, let alone 10 miles. There's also this thing called REFRACTION, maybe you should learn about it. Every "impossible photo" the globe denying retards has attempted to use to show "no curvature" actually SHOWS CURVATURE when you use the correct math, and the proper observer heights. Globe confirmed 3. No it doesn't. Go look at a raindrop. That isn't "flat or level". 4. Sorry, but documented evidence says that Polaris hasn't always been the pole star, and as we can see by the documented drift of Polaris, it wont always be the north pole star. No constellations don't remain fixed, we've had to adjust the dates of the zodiac because they have drifted over the centuries. How about you go learn about frames of reference. When you understand how things works, you understand that all of your claims are baseless. Btw, how do you explain the southern rotational pole? That is completely impossible on your pizza planet. 5. But it isn't. 6. Navy rail gun isn't a line of sight weapon, so I don't know how you think this "prove" your flat earth. 7. I've yet to see a PROPERLY DONE laser test by a globe denying retard. The only one that I have seen that WAS DONE PROPER showed curvature. Globe confirmed.

[@ComradeJehannum]

@Joe Smith I've replied to this shit twice now. So I'm going to guess you keep reporting it as spam because you dislike being shown up as a intellectually dishonest arsehole.

[@AlexSSR024]

Joe Smith you actually think 100 miles is a lot that’s like doin a flat earth experiment on your kitchen floor and the really funny part about your comment was when you called science a religion lol most people that believe in flat earth started believing in it cause the Bible says it is lol how fucking hilarious you believe shit the Bible says smh

[@niodewit4710]

@Joe Smith the earth is round Flat earthers be like : Every other fuckin planet is round But the earth is flat Like WTF

[@brbrbbrbr5449]

"Antarctic treaty", "operation high jump", "operation fish bowl", "admiral Byrd", "Astronauts gone wild" - LOOK INTO IT!

[@negatorxx]

yes, these are things you dont actually understand. we get it.

[@negatorxx]

@Dean Marroni no, its not.

[@davefx7949]

Hahahha "look into it". You know you're going to be entertained when those three words are on the end of any sentence.

[@colinmerritt7645]

Look into what? You're head? I can't see anything.

[@geocentrist6567]

We’re not spinning. We are still. We don’t live on a spinning ball in a vacuum but people love cgi and studio work. It’s sad to hear the heliocentrists proofs because of school and sick people we were forced to learn this terrible cosmology and they call it science and everybody buys it.. I sure as hell did at one point. We really have no choice in their system. It starts right in the school when you walk in and see that ball that’s being held up on a mantle.

[@DTMBYLEZ70]

Simple-a flat earth cannot explain why Polaris DISAPPEARS if you go south of the equator!

[@WilsonFox123]

Still/Not moving water proves a level earth..

[@stuartgray5877]

Or why the moon rotates one degree for every 70 miles moved north south across the earth.

[@bgardiner3354]

Me: "You couldn't be any more stupid if you tried." Flat earther: "Hold my beer..."

[@fritsvansanten9065]

I have never heard of Glob earther...

[@fritsvansanten9065]

As soon as you ask questions They have names for you .. sad

[@bgardiner3354]

@@fritsvansanten9065 what?

[@IOU1987]

@@bgardiner3354 that it's "not allowed" to ask anything that shakes the current consensus. Everyone knows that scientists who would do such a thing, get shunned. Nowadays even non scientific people wanna shun anyone questioning the consensus.. We ought to be able to do better..

[@bgardiner3354]

@@IOU1987 that is complete bullshit. The very nature of science is to verify and validate. Science and the scientific community do not ridicule new thoughts or ideas... they ridicule thoughts that do not reflect sound epistemology. This scientific gate keeper bullshit is just a reason people like flat earthers give to justify their ridiculous beliefs, which are inevitably rooted in their belief of an imaginary friend

[@kevinchamberlain7928]

Wonder why the debate heats up as technology improves our long-distance view? This matter is far from settled mainly due to technology revealing discrepancies in the given information. That it's even debated reveals enormous problems!

[@Arsaws]

The technology you talking about is called the internet. I can make a video showing you that the sun is blue colour and the sun you seeing with your bare eyes is fake.

[@kevinchamberlain7928]

@@Arsaws I'm truly pleased for you. No, truly I am.

[@kevinchamberlain7928]

@happy muttonchop We should just accept what government/religion tell us and never, ever question it, right? To question is to be mentally ill, am I right?

[@kevinchamberlain7928]

@happy muttonchop Agreed! We're told the horizon drops away 2.9 miles away from the shore for a 5' 7" man, which means it drops away to our left and also right. Earth is tiny because government/religion cannot be wrong and when I stand on the shore of Rhyl and eyeball the coast on the Isle of Man 80 miles away I'm not really seeing what my eyes are literally seeing because again, religion/government cannot be wrong, can they? It's great knowing religion/government correct what our eyes see and tell us we're wrong otherwise we'd know we were right!

[@kevinchamberlain7928]

@happy muttonchop So I agree, follow you logic and now you hurl insults! PMSL! Insults in place of intellect reveal the true fool.

[@Broonzied]

"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience". George Carlin.

[@nunyabusiness4800]

Thats what its like arguing with someone who thinks they love on a spinning space ball

[@marvinmartinsYT]

Nunya Business Love on a spinning ball ? You can’t even use your keyboard and want people to believe your nonsense?

[@kefhomepage]

flattards are idiots ., they haven’t the brain to comprehend a globe earth .

[@mattkim9086]

Using random quotes as an argument is pseudo skepticism.

[@Broonzied]

@@mattkim9086 What argument?

[@allenhammer7923]

Just explain how we have an atmosphere in a vacuum? How does it have pressure? While spinning at 1000mph. How does it not spin into space. Where did the first matter come from. Bangs don't come out of nothing. How is their so much energy in the breaking of an atom?

[@warmachineuk]

Consider the atmosphere gets thinner the higher you climb. Tell us again the atmosphere behaves like a Boyle's Law like gas and should equalise pressure everywhere. Imagine an airplane, cruising at 500 mph, taking 1 hour to complete a u-turn and the g forces you'd feel. Tell us again the atmosphere at the equator should be flung off when it takes 12 hours to do a u-turn. As for where the first matter came from, there's no decent hypothesis. It's a mystery. However, matter can appear and annihilate itself out of nowhere and this has been measured as the Casimir effect. Welcome to the weird world of quantum mechanics, a branch of physics that's transformed our understanding of chemistry and microelectronics.

[@allenhammer7923]

You can call these explanations whatever you want but they are every bit as as crazy as a flat Earth just like space going on forever. Same way they explain why you should invest in Derivatives. Sell the sizzle. Gaslight the obvious you can not explain. @@warmachineuk

[@warmachineuk]

@@allenhammer7923 You may think they're daft hypotheses but the shape, size and motion of the Earth has been measured, showing a globe Earth, as you know. You may think the atmosphere on a slowly rotating Earth is absurd but you know it happens anyway. Therefore, your understanding of physics is wrong and absurd. If you cannot accept established physics, which leads to accurate predictions and useful applications, then that's a 'you' problem.

[@allenhammer7923]

The main thing is it all proves there is a creator and no science can disprove it by silly explanations that are theories at best.. I need real facts on things work so I can make what I want and bad info messes it all up. We have the best system money can buy. That is the problem. @@warmachineuk

[@Mark-Stone]

@@allenhammer7923If you had any interest in actually learning, you could simply type “how does our atmosphere exist next to a vacuum” and read. It’s grade school level stuff. Your religious belief makes no difference to objective and trivially proven reality, sport. Earth is a sphere.

[@blowc1612]

Opinions can be wrong. The antonym of Facts isn’t opinions, it is lies.

[@carultch]

No, that isn't true. Facts and opinions are antonyms. A fact is a statement that is objective, and is possible to prove correct or incorrect. We all know that a statement such as "Mars is blue" is objectively untrue. Everyone who knows what Mars is, and what blue is, will disagree with this statement. But "Mars is blue" is still a fact. It is a statement that is not subject to anyone's preference or interpretation. A fact is still a fact whether it is true or false. What makes it a fact, is whether it is possible to prove it to be either true or false. An opinion is a statement that is subjective, and is an expression of personal preference. An opinion could have some basis in fact, or it could have no factual basis at all. It is common that opinions are about something that has no reason to even be based in fact in the first place. A statement like "I think Michaelangelo is the greatest artist of all time", is an opinion. Someone else might have a different taste in art, and prefer DaVinci's work instead. You can't really prove what a person's preference is, and it is something about them that can change with time. A judgement is the middle ground between facts and opinions. This is a statement that is not completely objective, but that uses true facts to support it. It will depend on the judger's analysis of the facts, and someone else might disagree with the analysis. Someone else might have more information to show that the methods of the analysis are unsound. A judgement is what makes a good subject of debate, because it isn't objective whether it is correct or incorrect, and it is a statement that can be supported with factual evidence.

[@blowc1612]

@@carultch it is true. Facts and opinions aren’t antonyms at all. Opinions can be factual. Facts are truth and their opposite are lies. Just because facts and opinions are used together most of the time people confused them to be antonyms for one another.

[@blowc1612]

@@carultch stop acting like you’re smart, literally in your own dumb long comment states opinions can be based on facts.. CASED CLOSED. 😂

[@__________Troll__________]

*Lol flat earth vs pear shaped earth*

[@nunyabusiness4800]

Spinning spheroid in a vacuum created from nothing

[@richardwind2859]

Or an ORB ... Someone is lying NASA Lies 💯

[@relentlessshillstomper114]

@@nunyabusiness4800 sounds legit 🙄

[@reinerhoch1357]

@@nunyabusiness4800 created from nothing and God created it from what? Magic dust? Get your head out of your ass, as I mentioned before in a letter from Paul he states clearly you shall never deny science. So why not live up to it if you are a Theist?

Tyson said, and i quote,"earth is bulged slightly, kind of like a pear." he did NOT say "earth is shaped exactly like a pear complete with a stem", that is a LITERALLY God-damned LIE that you WILL got to HELL for!

[@Teeb2023]

Totally agree with him about debates. Pointless popularity contests.

[@sussekind9717]

Exactly, why watch a debate, when you already know the answer to the question posed.

[@artmcteagle]

Not all debates are pointless, as deGrasse states they should be centered around objective realities, for e.g. should we chlorinate the water supply for our town?

[@Teeb2023]

@@artmcteagle True, I guess my perspective was of the kind of "debate" that flat Earthers and other science deniers cry out for.

[@artmcteagle]

@@Teeb2023 yes, those are pointless. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[@cybelemarie7913]

Science supports the Bible and vice-versa: Earth is round While some conspiracy theories might say otherwise, science has confirmed the shape of our planet as round. This is also mentioned in the Bible: "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22).

[@PortalOvThaTornVeil]

Round doesn’t equate to spherical.

[@soner818]

We observe the length of day and night in hours. During summer the days are longer and nights are shorter, during winter we observe the opposite. Since opposite hemispheres have opposite seasons therefore the length of day and night would be opposite in the hemispheres. How would that work on a flat earth model?

[@boterlettersukkel]

here is no flat earth model. Flerfs can not explain it.

[@stevewakelingslide7089]

you know what?? they say we get the seasons because the earth is tilted away at that time from the sun when it goes around it....well if the sun is millions of miles away...how the hell can a small tilt of about 5000miles maybe less be affected by it

[@anonymousperson2801]

@@stevewakelingslide7089 Earth's tilted axis causes the seasons. Earth is tilted about 23 degrees. Throughout the year, different parts of Earth receive the Sun's most direct rays. So, when the North Pole tilts toward the Sun, it's summer in the Northern Hemisphere. And when the South Pole tilts toward the Sun, it's winter in the Northern Hemisphere.

[@stevewakelingslide7089]

@@anonymousperson2801 so you try and tell me if the sun is millions of miles away...lolz what difference would a couple of thousand mile tilt make...none....

[@jeffturner6698]

"An alarm to the geek-o-verse to rise up and counteract these forces from the dark side. The bat signal went up..." hahaha You can tell he really loves sci-fi with those references to Star Wars and Batman.

[@rstevewarmorycom]

No, he's just trying to appeal to the ballcap bozo crowd.

[@novapixel16]

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

[@devine1683]

-Mark twain

[@novapixel16]

@@devine1683 ah, I see you're a man of culture as well. Bless you sir

[@mattkim9086]

@@novapixel16 Using quotes as an argument is pseudo skepticism

[@XavierStram]

My favorite argument I've heard is, "water at rest is flat. The earth is made up mainly of water....."

[@sloppypancake6656]

this one is great. I see the same guy in here just copy pasting that into every thread

[@jonsedlak7441]

That was a complete waste of time

[@nunyabusiness4800]

Agreed 100% not a very convincing argument

[@princeofallnegros4035]

Yeah the blue man with a human face in the park.

[@theplanetruth]

Hey, I know you!!!

[@theplanetruth]

Julius Gilliard um, I know Jon personally.

[@oliverrodriguez7470]

Ok boomer.

[@MikeBlackbird]

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"

[@tw3f4tes52]

Which a lot of people have, and arrived at the conclusion that the earth is a globe due to the overwhelming amounts of evidence supporting it and the overwhelming amount of evidence disproving a flat earth. How is the Coriolis effect possible on a flat earth where there is no rotation. How do tectonic plates fit and what would cause their movement? How is it possible for stars to seemingly rotate around the southern celestial pole when there is no south pole? How is it possible that every astrophysicist, geologist, meteorologist, government official, pilot and shit tons of other people are somehow in on the same thing? We're talking 10s of millions of people, if not 100s, actively devoting large parts of their lives to spread a supposed lie, how likely do you think that is?

[@MikeBlackbird]

looks to me like YOU need a :flat earth 101" class kiddo, ..you're sleepwalking again.....

[@tw3f4tes52]

Mike Blackbird Great response, really cleared things up!

[@MikeBlackbird]

i've been _"clearing-it-up"_ (on FE topic) for nearly 6 years now...

[@MikeBlackbird]

and i been _crackin' skulls_

[@patrickgarant3643]

Any person can see the moon in detail with a telescope, then why can't you see land on the other side of the ocean, if the earth is flat?

[@Chris-hx3om]

The argument is that the moon (and the sun) are only 5,000 kilometres away... But you have a good point. Along with the stars rotating CW in the Southern sky and CCW in the Northern. And about 50 other points.

[@willandrews9741]

Even if the earth is flat you would never ever see anything through that much haze of atmosphere I’ve looked through plenty of telescopes at distant object in the sky and on earth and if you are looking at something on the ground but distant it’s like looking through water after so long. Extremely hazy. Look at those images of Area 51 from that mountain peak what 15 miles away or so, you can see the base but at the same time you see absolutely nothing it’s so hazy and obfuscated.

[@malkyhendry6560]

objective reality is not up for debate

[@claytonjackson5709]

There’s is no measurable curve of the earth. Large bodies of water are 100% level.

[@GuardianSoulkeeper]

If that were true, there would be no horizon over water.

[@mikeflatbird729]

Ryan - go take Art class 101, and learn about Perspective! and convergence! there is a thing called a perspective Ramp! the ground (not literally, but seemingly, due to perspective) Rises up, and things lower that're above, such as street lamp seem to lower to the ground upon looking down/up a long straight flat street or etc, mkay kiddo? NightyNite sleepyhead Zzz..

[@GuardianSoulkeeper]

The vanishing point does not manifest as a local horizon. Try again.

[@GuardianSoulkeeper]

Mike, perspective causes things to appear smaller as they recede away from the observer. Perspective lines are always parallel which means *they never meet.* Your description violates these rules. You can do better than that.

[@johnny50424]

@@GuardianSoulkeeper you have no physical evidence for the globe.

[@chiensyang]

There is a flight instructor in the church I attend. He said all of the flight instruments were engineered according the globed Earth. Question for flat earthers: 1. Is he a Satanist infiltrating the church? 2. If I learn to fly the planes, do I also become a Satanist?

[@boterlettersukkel]

All navigation is based on the globe. Planes and ships Why would somebody become a satanist when accepts reallity??

[@chiensyang]

@@boterlettersukkel, The flat earthers believe the people pushed the globed Earth are Satanists, and the pilots are part of the agenda.

[@boterlettersukkel]

@@chiensyang So??? flat earthers are wrong.... Again.

[@chiensyang]

@@boterlettersukkel, My questions were rhetorical, and once the quarantine is over, I will schedule a demo flight with him. My family may join me if it is allowed.

[@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals]

Flat Earth Believing Is Satanism. Globed Earth Believing Is Worshipping GOD.

[@URMOMSFVRT]

Neil DeGrasse is telling the truth. He doesn’t like 2 people discussing. Just ask Joe Rogan😂

[@ALaModePi]

His first point is absolutely vital: A person citing objective truth could "lose" a debate simply because the one not doing so is likeable and charismatic. I learned very quickly that the only time to think about engaging a flat-earther is on a truly public forum where they're raising questions that might confuse onlookers.

[@SmartDave60]

Debates where’s there’s objective truths aren’t debates.

[@SmartDave60]

Bernard Vorac can you see Mt Everest from New York w/ a good enough telescope?

[@bernardvorac112]

David Smith No because air is a fluid. A thin fluid to be sure, but still a fluid. 7400 miles separate NYC from Mount Everest. 7400 miles of thin fluid is enough to distort the image, making it impossible to see at that distance. Everest is shrouded in the clouds, in addition to the fact there are two dozen rain storms raging in between at any given time.

[@SmartDave60]

Bernard Vorac how come we can see thru the the thin fluid in the air to see the moon, stars, planets which are thousands of miles away.

[@bernardvorac112]

David Smith Because in the flat earth model they are not billions of miles away. They are in the firmament, about a few hundred miles up. I know it’s a lot to take in. I went through the same process of disbelief.

[@SmartDave60]

Bernard Vorac ok but in a vacuum you could set up a telescope and see Mt Everest from NY.

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

15° per hour drift....cheers Bob 😎

[@marvinmartinsYT]

HipHop Hippie What?

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

HipHop Hippie he proved 100% of earth’s rotation and then tried to blame it on something completely different....they all are knob cheeses.....

[@nebtheweb8885]

@@More-Space-In-Ear and he did this TWICE. Both times he made excuses for his results.

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

NebTheWeb this is why we treat flat earthers as stupid. They can’t see the results in front of their faces and try their best to disprove their own work.....

[@ComradeJehannum]

@HipHop Hippie Ummm, I'm pretty sure that neat cool device he "got" from the community showed rotation of the earth. If you think he "lied" how about you prove it.

[@aku7598]

something flat like a book, exhibit ending of the flat surface. If earth is flat, where is the end? For spherical earth, end is at the point before you start. Curve all the way to the beginning.

[@1laforees829]

Curved all the way heaven.

[@wolfking2281]

That can be proven also on a flat but round table 😂