"SHUTUP! YOU DUMB--" Hasan Fumbles Easy Debate And LOSES IT

[@destiny]

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[@gamedude412]

The guy in the background slowly dying is the best part of hasan having the "debate"

[@jasonu3741]

Think Hasan will lose views/subscribers because the topic is a liberal dividing issue (Israel vs Hamas). where as other political topics are more liberal unifying where your not going to get liberals looking at eachother as wrong. Ukraine v Russia is a republican dividing issue i would assume as well, where some will be like "fuck Russia" while another cohort will say "no more american tax payer dollars into foreign conflicts". Which is a wild take really if you consider how much Intel the US was able to gather on Russia's actual capabilities while also decimating its numbers and supplies. the US under normal circumstances would probably cut a 1.5trillion dollar cheque to achieve all that the Russia v Ukraine War has done yet its only cost 75-100 billion essentially destroy what was considered the 3rd strongest military force on the planet for 1/10th the cost you spent in Iraq... and while losing no US troops.

[@clickbaitrater8945]

For the purposes of steel manning FYI, The accusations against the church regarding the drop in standards after the plague really go down poorly. It's still fair criticism, but it's definitely understandable that, due to the absolutely massive reduction in altar boys (I have also seen somewhere lately that the actual death rates from last rites were as much as issue), pretty much anyone was giving Last Rites, anyone was acting on behalf of the church, and it was just a cluster f* lol. I'm assuming that if God was real, the plague was punishment for the child-abuse, but I digress. Anyways, just a heads up about how that point goes over in debate from my experience lol, and it's actually really an interesting topic even as a non-theist :)

[@ThinkingCap_]

Homie I wish you wouldn't speed up the speech in your vids, it becomes headache inducing, overall your commentary etc. is 10/10 though thanks for the great entertainment

[@AroundTheBest]

The far-left support of Hamas has devolved into positively looking at Osama Bin Laden's 2002 letter.

[@WillyMacShow]

Turns out you don’t have to be good at debating if you’re just right.

[@SillyBunny5]

First lol

[@willy_b_coyote]

Based WillyMac W, Cringe Hamas Piker L

[@NAETEMUSIC]

Lmao nice. Thanks again bro for humbling Hasan on camera, that will now serve as a record for why he is dumb for generations.

[@TheBostonboy95]

Willy is definitely gonna end up on destiny’s stream to talk about this debate

[@Xxxkiller101]

hasan was the debate pervert all along, and not even a good one lol

[@GenerationZSpeaks]

“You want to debate about a video you didnt watch?” “Of course” Sums up Hasan pretty perfectly

[@wgkersey9097]

and how he got so arrogant about it too 😂

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

Just like 2000 Mules. The Left won't watch it, and yet insists their accusations against it are totally legit.

[@SpookyScarySkeletor]

?????@@robmoreno3094

[@BobaBushido]

For someone who cried every time Piers Morgan spoke over him, dude cannot let let Willy talk. Hypocrisy at its finest

[@conuz8]

“Shut up or I’ll mute you” as he talks over every single point Willy attempted to get across

[@ndartehkewl1282]

That’s the Hasan brand. If he stops talking his audience might have the time to think about what he’s saying and realize it’s verbal diarrhea, and he obviously can’t have that

[@5ifty6ixmediauk]

He learned the tactic lol

[@largeman1624]

Hasan cannot comprehend that Willy is attacking the content of his character and not his political stances.

[@brokencreationlordmegatrol3037]

debate streamers are not ready for actually good commentary dudes like willy and tom

[@spigney4623]

He thinks hes steamrolling in the debate but he is literally proving willys points

[@paperpersona1243]

Omg you hit the nail on the head. That's why they keep talking past each other and going in circles. That plus Hasan won't listen to Willy's actual criticism.

[@austin_bennett]

It's deliberate stupidity at best & at worse he's doing it deliberately to prevent Willy from actually cracking the propaganda machine he's created

[@kenjinsakura]

He wants to turn it from that into an Israel-Palestine debate so he can just call Willy a genocidal maniac and "win" in the eyes of his audience.

[@sheogorath6804]

Man Hasan's ability to speak for 2 hours without making a single point and not answering a single question is frankly impressive.

[@misanthropicmusings4596]

Dude, that is the defining feature of maybe 90 percent of KZbin political streamers.

[@googane7755]

Welcome to the internet, are you new here?

[@skepsisrollins1711]

Yappers do yap

[@nwesterbeckmaster]

Regardless of how people feel about the virus mask mandates, it's worth watching the debate between Hasan and Michael Knowles, simply to see the difference in experience and intelligence. It seriously sounds like a drunk college frat boy arguing with a Harvard medical graduate.

[@urbanangst7630]

There is nothing impressive about Hasan.

[@zachmorgan6982]

I will never forgive society for making people like Hasan famous, and popular

[@OffMetaGang]

How did it happen? Honestly, I don't get it.

[@cadennorris960]

@@OffMetaGangHis uncle is apart of the young Turks so I’m just guessing maybe that influence helped.

[@Max78912]

my theory is that people have given up and hasans constant preaching about how the systems are totally rigged appeals to their victim mentality and if they just follow hasan they can just repeat talking points without actually researching or finding anything out on their own

[@Max78912]

another theory is his fans like having this fake moral superiority over non leftists , hasan fans thinks they're the only people on earth with compassion

[@Jonqen]

​@@OffMetaGangBecause good looking

[@thevoid5732]

Its crazy. Willy Mac accuses hasan of jumping to conclusions. Hasan, in his infinite wisdom, decides to jump to conclusions about a video he didn't watch. Amazin

[@chinchillatwitch7234]

It so funny, that Willy is proven right, like 1 minute into the video.

[@AllThingsEntertaining]

It's funny how predictable he is.

[@markbisson6166]

It’s impossible to read “amazin” without hearing JLP’s voice 😂

[@DJ-wl5qo]

@@markbisson6166 “Hasan do you love Israeli people?”

[@Awaken_To_0]

Yeah it's stupid... It's so stupid it just might work! Wait. No. It's just stupid.

[@thefreshprince3294]

Dude I’m tired of streamers acting like they can’t be bothered to watch a video. When that’s all they do all day

[@haven8694]

It's funny because Hasan had a meltdown when everyone was criticizing how he was reacting to other creator's content. His excuse was that he had to stream x amount of hours for his twitch contract. 😅

[@Daxank]

@@haven8694 Well the amount of hours is true... However he never really said what the amount is but it's literally the same for everyone. 8 hours a month, on at least 7 different days. So you can literally just stream 1 hour a day on Saturday and Sunday and you're good with your contract

[@austinashworth6413]

What’s wild is he mocked and criticized him for not watching more of his daily 8 HOUR STREAMS. Can he not see the double standards?

[@VennyVex]

Lets be honest even if Hasan did "watch" the video he would've gone to the toilet 10 times during it's duration.

[@thefreshprince3294]

@@VennyVex Boom roasted

[@Asher17]

The fact that Hassan has an audience is the biggest black pill for the state of humanity

[@googleisevil8958]

Do keep in mind Hasan's audience also prodded Willy Mac into the debate to start with, pretty much dragging him through the mud because he didn't want to debate him. Why? Well you saw what happened. Mac KNEW this was going to be unproductive from the start but hey, it finally showed a lot of people that Hasan's a Lolcow. Mac is doing God's work.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

I mean, nick fuentez and baked alaska had an audience that went out in public chanting nazi slogans. That is a bigger indictment of humanity imo rather than Hasan being a PoS.

[@Jalmerk]

Forget about his politics, I don’t know how people find the dude entertaining or charismatic at all. He is just such an insufferable douchebag personalitywise.

[@tristn9]

accusing willy of being "unprepared" when he literally refuses to watch the video he is debating on is peak comedy. How his audience manages to nod along with this level of brainrot is truly disturbing

[@paveluchitel]

Funny, when I first heard of Hassan and briefly checked him out a couple years ago, I decided he was a fairly intelligent, charismatic dude that I seriously disagree with on a bunch of topics. Boy was I wrong.

[@aye_its_karate6169]

They are far leftists..they literally have brain rot lol. The dumbest political ideology in America is the far left.

[@cheese9466]

@@paveluchitel How in god's name did you come to that conclusion lol

[@pacMAN-vi5nu]

@@paveluchitel first time i watched him was during the johnny depp case and he either said fuck all or just flat out distrusted and insulted a latino women cop's statement because she was, as you guessed it, a cop. And resumed to keep saying that they're both in the wrong whilst offering no context to that statement, it was really surreal to me how correct the Internet's opinion of a person could be at that time.

[@miraqen7801]

cos children and manchildren

[@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842]

Willy fighting above his weight class and still winning…the hero we didn’t know we needed

[@scottiecurrie7927]

Call this mf Gearless Joe

[@kingjulien1921]

Hasan couldn't defend a single fucking talking point of his of his if his live depended on it even if he would debate a first grader

[@18andcloudy]

He has no robust political convictions, doesn't offer off the cuff rhetoric ever because of course he doesn't and sounds like he was conceived in a parking lot. Your standards are in the gutter.

[@TMan5636]

Willy Little Mac vs Hasan 'Glass Joe' Piker

[@mikoi7472]

@@18andcloudy Who cares? Willy's entire criticism of Hasan was that he jumps to conclusions with bad analyzes of situations.

[@Freshypotjohns]

I have no clue how anyone can make it through this debate and not just completely hate hasan. Like I guess if you can’t pick up social cues then it’s easier cause seeing every lying, scheming, and manipulative way he handled this debate was driving me crazy. I’m glad Willie picked up on it and didn’t let that rat get under his skin.

[@remuvs]

You can tell Hasan felt the heat when he started calling names.

[@murf493]

Big facts

[@illansuu9572]

Hasan was such a bully debater in this. He was just making sure that Willy wont get a single point across in its entirety so that he would not look silly. I dont know how anyone in the world can take him seriously

[@lilstevechan8427]

He has to protect his ego and rep. That's all he cares about. The truth is totally irrelevant.

[@KingKosar]

He has always been like that.

[@oldmanwilikers1252]

I always feel a little uncomfortable about hasan and his looping topic

[@DinggisKhaaniMagtaal]

His behavior was horribly childish. His community has been acting like this though since people started raising eyebrows at the Richard Wolf conversation as far as his Ukraine statements and even moreso when Taiwan and Ukraine got brought up more recently. Edit: His community has probably always been like this but it’s started leaking progressively since those points to other peoples attention

[@TR13400]

Debate terrorist

[@flybydeath]

God after watching this I am beginning to understand why Sam Hyde got so much joy out of trolling Hasan last year.

[@MadMaximo]

I wanna see a sam Hyde fight after seeing this

[@peytonalexander5300]

"In yer Los Angeles castle, ye might be cozy at night, But I hope ye think of me, and it gives ye a fright! Oh, I hope ye have nightmares of peanut brittle and peppermint block Cuz when I run up on ye son, I wont be there to talk. Before ye hop off to bed, pray to the white chocolate moon above, Cuz ye've got a golden ticket to gettin' **FOOKED** by me glove! If ye'd rather not partake in the Candyman's game, Ooh, Hasan Piker, ye shouldn't utter me name!"

[@tloyp2584]

strong beliefs but no ability to articulate them combined with the pressure of a massive fan base looking up to him. i can't think of an easier person to provoke

[@jasonmonroe7454]

the candy man is coming

[@miraqen7801]

I like how Willy did the bare minimum and still won the debate. My favorite part was when hasan said nothing of value the entire time.

[@mrman-yj3bn]

Love how hasan swaps from "you guys stalk me and know everything about me" to "oh, you don't know what I said that 1 time? You don't even know what you are talking about"

[@adamyooz]

Actually a great observation. You’re either obsessed or clueless to him. There is no such thing as valid criticism from an outside perspective.

[@mrman-yj3bn]

@Adam-tu1lk exactly, if you have a good point, you're obsessed. If you don't know every fact, you're a dumbass who needs to do some research and doesn't care about the issue.

[@WanderTheNomad]

War is peace ya know

[@eggibot]

similarly: "i don't need to watch the video, i know what i said!" to: "hold on, i don't even know what you are talking about with that us-embassy thing"

[@kenjinsakura]

"The enemy is both strong and weak"

[@0mniZZ]

My absolute favorite part was when Hasan tried to hide behind 'new information can come out an change my perspective' when his perspective is "russia wont invade ukraine" and the new information is "russia invades ukraine". That aint changing your perspective, its called being wrong lmao. Fuckin joke

[@decave]

Haha, that’s such a good point. He’s framing it like, “Oh some nuanced think tank article came out which presented facts I hadn’t considered, and I corrected my perspective accordingly.” In reality he’s just dead ass wrong and “changing his opinion” because 2 + 2 =\= 5.

[@fivedudes]

Ya I will change my view if new info comes out thats better, while looking at vod of 10 hour hospital stream he didnt change title for and banned anyone who dropped new info lol

[@morezombies9685]

"I change my mind when I am literally forced to because the objective reality of the situation completely contradicts my beliefs." Is more accurate I think lol.

[@ducciboi]

Calling it changing perspective when he treats everything he said beforehand as facts and calls anyone who disagrees with him "psychotic", then says sorry real quick before making yet another outrageous claim then continues to attack anyone who disagrees with him till he's proven wrong again. Rinse and repeat.

[@pacevy3798]

@@morezombies9685I swear he was saying Russia wont invade Ukraine up until literal DAYS before it happened

[@VDdsw]

"Do you think that russia bombing Kiev is a good thing" goddamn it Hassan... what a debating genius, you're right and all of your arguments are right with this point. Point for griffindor lmao

[@jelqotheclown]

More like Griftindor

[@PeachyRosesxc]

hasan did a really good job avoiding the main point of “it’s bad to jump to conclusions so confidently in front of thousands of impressionable audience members” and pivoted to “I corrected it though??!” every time. amazing

[@Rushiryu]

idk if he did "a really good job", as you put it, but it was certainly 'a' job, yeah

[@drew9344]

Hasan didn’t an excellent job at obfuscating… the thing that confuses me is how can is fan base not see his cognitive dissonance? i think he’s a pompous charlatan.

[@MlNECRAFT69]

What’s amazing is that he immediately just jumped to conclusions and insulted the creator he randomly invited and acted like he was way more important than him even though he only has content from talking to him. And then he calls the video a half hour of some dude talking shit yet literally EVERYTHING HE DOES is talking shit nonstop. Holy shit he even started jumping to conclusions by interrupting the guy and being extremely rude and condescending. Then he misunderstands the timeline of events and starts to virtue signal will over and over cause he can’t get over the fact literally everyone on the internet called him out for how dog shit his takes, shit quality of content, and least effort taken possible for videos. He’s like xqc but he isn’t playing a game and he’s an asshole to seemingly everybody he’s ever spoken to.

[@nihilistichris8609]

I was in Ukraine at the time of Hasan's "Russia won't invade" ....I remember he spent months doing cringe videos of him flicking his hair back, pretending he understood the geopolitics, and saying "This was all America's fault, Russia has no plans to invade" The SECOUND Russia did invade he shifted without missing a beat to claiming Ukrainians are Nazis, he even ran defence on the objectively bad video from The Gravel Institute and started claiming "Crimea is Russia" it wasn't until a HUGE amount of pushback and a decline in his stock that he gave a half-assed apology and didn't mention it again until he used Ukraine to say "It's not as bad as Gaza"...why this guy has an audience is beyond me.

[@KayMarieD]

A couple weeks ago he talked said “nothing Russia has done is as bad as what Isreal has done.” Meanwhile the next day it was reported Russia bombed another hospital

[@rance8838]

Because they share those views, turns out the far left is just as unhinged as the far right.

[@ShibuIsUnoriginal]

@@rance8838 afr of any side is unhinged although a broken clock is right 2 times a day, I'm still remaining in my close to centre point of view.

[@Lunk42]

The guys a narcissistic egomaniac and his audience is just stupid and think they're somehow more "intellectual" by watching him.

[@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261]

Dylan Burns made an entire video where he invited Ukrainians to react to Hasan’s takes. Guess how Hasan reacted to that video. You guessed it: he didn’t watch it, but accused Dylan of being a “war pervert” and of “exploiting the poor Ukrainians for content”… 😂

[@Jacqli-Rivoli]

Imagine spending an entire debate trying convince someone else into believing you're never wrong. Oh wait, that's called gaslighting, duh.

[@mr.dolphin8345]

I just love how Hasan is wearing a shirt that says "Capitalism is voluntary" The irony is never lost with him

[@Dan16673]

Yeah wtf. Too me thats a huge promotion.

[@coconamia]

what does it even mean? lol

[@KozmikVoid]

Reminds me of when he was posting pictures on instagram wearing that 'make the rich pay' shirt

[@RonponVideos]

On the back it says “I volunteer!”

[@allisoncastle]

@@coconamia It basically means “you can choose to participate in our system or not” which is an EXTREEMELLYYY privileged opinion to hold in the first place. Like, no poor person would ever really think that considering they are the ones working the shitty minimum wage jobs at places like McDonald’s and buying from the scummiest places because they DONT HAVE A CHOICE. But for privileged people like Hasan, he can ACTUALLY afford buying the super expensive things that are made outside of capitalism. For instance, a clothing brand that is a co-op. Of course, he doesn’t actually though.

[@HawooAwoo]

I like how Willy can start making the most mild, milktoast point and Hasan instantly starts howling like a corner animal.

[@cobr3545]

"Milktoast" bro please

[@Adrelinen]

@@cobr3545 Milquetoast as a term literally comes from a cartoon character who was named after milk toast being an example of bland food. It's not that wild for people to mistakenly say milktoast

[@WanderTheNomad]

@@Adrelinen It's wild to me that they've never seen it written out anywhere

[@hankkits4043]

@@Adrelinen That character was named after 'Milk Toast', a meal designed for ill and young children to eat.

[@Adrelinen]

@@hankkits4043 that's literally what I said

[@ownagemunky]

Willy did a really good job not letting hasan weasel and worm his way around these topics. That's the confidence you get when you're so clearly and self-evidently correct about something that it couldn't possibly be interpreted in any other way by anybody who's not a hasan zealot

[@davewade30]

Hasan pretending to cry over the Palestinian flag because Ethan genuinely cried about a dead Israeli child was the most cringe shit I've see in a while.

[@IwantPizza2011]

He cried bout a journalist

[@remuvs]

Amber Heard put up a more convincing act.

[@JustKohai]

@@remuvs genuinely its sad and was hard to watch

[@Platypus4321]

Ethan cried about a dead Palestinian child and Hasan pretended to cry about a funeral being disrespected. But you’re right it was super cringe.

[@kaiduffy2974]

​@@Platypus4321ben shapiro has made videos on Israel and condemned what hamas and pro Palestinians attacking innocent jews

[@andrewmcvay6412]

I feel for Hasan’s friend cause this whole debate feels like when you’re at your friend’s house and they’re arguing with their parents.

[@AmyZonkers]

That friend is every bit as obnoxious in his opinions as Hasan.

[@PlumpPotatoRump]

​@@AmyZonkerswhat's his friends' name/channel ?

[@capnbrappn]

@@PlumpPotatoRump Felix Biederman from Chapo Trap House

[@krombopulos_michael]

I don't. If you're Hasan's friend then you're probably an asshole too

[@ineedapharmists]

​@@capnbrappnglad they died off

[@TheYabaWaba]

When he started calling Willy “Willy no script” I thought about how it reminded me of another figure in the political sphere that gives nicknames to his opponents in order to make their claims sound illegitimate. It’s Donald Trump.

[@googleisevil8958]

Now let's not insult Trump like that. Trump is wrong yeah, but he doesn't screech the same way Hasan does when he's called out on it.

[@hiphopotal]

Woke lefties and trumpers are insanely similar

[@jaycubayo]

Not a meatrider but Trump is miles more entertaining for a political figure

[@snipersougo13]

Trump is a entertaining idiot Hassan is a frustrating idiot

[@dblock20]

I want Ethan to plan a debate with Hasan but have Destiny step in instead. Hasan: OH NO DESTINY, WHAT A FUCKIN NIGHTMARE.

[@Jones-ke6bt]

This would be so f-ing beautiful.

[@70othl3ss4]

It would be kinda cringe, but i guess. It just makes destiny look even more obsessed with hasan than people already think he is.

[@samwisethe5th112]

Remember when XQC dragged him into a discord with destiny and he left immediately

[@6ftmouse349]

Hasan would just leave

[@fredbelanger2995]

Hasan would probably destroy destiny ngl. And I like both.

[@cancerconnoisseur]

Willy Mac Show would've won this debate easily by just saying "if you didn't watch the video in preparation for this debate, then you've proven my point." And just left.

[@BMilitant]

He did say that multiple times

[@cancerconnoisseur]

@@BMilitant I know, but it was continuing to engage with Hasan after the fact.

[@LightCrib2]

@@BMilitant OP meant said it immediately after hasan admitted it and then left right there

[@noahjoyner8232]

​@@cancerconnoisseurhe wanted the video

[@googleisevil8958]

Let's be honest, Hasan would have NEVER accepted that as an answer even from the start. Mack said it best. He HAS to be right no matter what.

[@Amarenamann]

"The more I see of Hasan Piker the more I grow convinced that he's a genuinely evil person..." -Bilbo Baggins

[@CakesWarden]

“It is common, but not too common”

[@brandonolsen579]

This is the worst and most egregious ive ever seen Hasan, its actually unbelievable to me that he has fans who think hes being good faith and making any good points

[@moodymoofin186]

He went full joker

[@Daxank]

It's also insane how much he asks Willy to let him talk and he does but when Willy asks the same, he doesn't let him ever talk

[@theclerk3163]

They’re so brainwashed it’s scary

[@bobdillfreed6917]

Touch grass

[@nothde9865]

​@@bobdillfreed6917seeing as you are a hasan fan, i can tell you are projecting hard

[@landonhagan450]

Honestly, the most telling moment was the signoff. Hasan tried to end with a petty insult, Willy Mac literally just said cope, and Hasan clearly ended up way more upset about it. He's just so petty and fragile. He'll dish anything, but take nothing.

[@alexchilba2991]

Honestly, just the amounts of insults that Hasan through at Willy made him lose, who thinks spamming stfu and dumbass at their debate opponent makes them win?

[@bigmanspook]

For real, he's straight up bullying Willy saying stuff like, "You don't know anything about it cause you're a fkn dumbass," like jeez man that's kinda far, eh

[@snipersougo13]

Children Like really young children

[@DegenGambaAddict]

As a Hasan hater I’m eating gooooood right now

[@parzivallampruge2549]

Yessir

[@RedPatriarch]

fiesting

[@KayMarieD]

Its been a good couple of years

[@ostracon5412]

That must be a miserable life in reality. You dont have to be a hater of anyone. The guy will probably never stop being rich and famous and doing what he wants to do. Just because somebody who's a lot less popular Logically Destroyed Hasan Reddit style doesnt really change much. It will be forgotten pretty fast, and hasan will continue to thrive. Dont let the hate take up space in your head.

[@truedarkness4052]

​@@ostracon5412It's good to see someone with his ego and his level of blatant dishonesty get their due

[@Nois-ufnoc]

"Yes, you finally get it. The video is about you!" What a solid response to him blabbering about nonsense.

[@Blazingakatosh]

Seeing Hasans chat say that willie is clout chasing is just mind blowing when Hasan was the one to reach out to him.

[@edencohen7097]

I love seeing Hasan so frustrated and cussing him because he has nothing good to say. He was soooo embarrassing in this video I can’t believe this dude is over 30 years old

[@googleisevil8958]

Honestly, I can. A lot of people of my generation seem to be like this. I think it's what happens when you only have echo chambers.

[@jaycubayo]

@@googleisevil8958also when you live chronically online

[@TR13400]

Honestly the older I get ironically the more I see that people's age doesn't mean much. There's old people who are fools, there's young people who are geniuses. The least we can all do is try to be a good person and I just don't think Hasas is very good

[@Scardor]

Mind blowing that he can just sit there and say "I've been good faith" when he's been the worst faith possible. How can an audience look at this and think this is ok?

[@fivedudes]

Because they watch him in that mode 24/7 when he one guys chatters constantly, like he's Asmon

[@austinashworth6413]

Eerily reminiscent of Stockholm syndrome.

[@ScottLovenberg]

It's not mind blowing, he's really that lacking in both intelligence and sophistication. His audience doesn't notice due to a more severe affliction of the same.

[@kiwidubz]

they don't think, they're NPCs

[@Seagull_Dictator]

I used to watch Hasan and this was a major yikes from me. This debate was so unbelievably hard to watch, I have no idea why he thought this was the approach he should go with. Screaming at your opposition the whole time, not even watching his video, and resorting to name calling is never a good look. This whole thing was just awful.

[@Bacontruffle]

Isn't it ironic that during the "debate" Hasan is talking 80% of the time, never lets Willy finish his arguments before interrupting him, yet will constantly accuse him of not allowing him to make his points? It's fucking infuriating how all Hasan does is derail, muddle, interject, and generally just disrupt any actual conversation. (not to mention constantly berate, belittle and straight up insult Willy)

[@TheBostonboy95]

It’s insane that hasan fans still think he’s being at all good faith, bro is soo disgusting!!

[@klefthoofrobert787]

They don't, they are shitty people IRL like him which is why they don't care and they still follow him, this is not a case of them not seeing how Hasan is as a person.

[@kidkuu1891]

Yeah it's a bit bizarre. I was surprised seeing the contrast between comments on willymacshows vid and hasans sub reddit. I get that it's his sub, but being able to see just how opposing two views were is wild. Like negative comments on Hasan were literally just flipped on Willy and vice versa

[@Billy_Herrington1969]

Hasan fans think that he "won"

[@360Fov]

Too true. Utterly gross person.

[@polkka7797]

@@kidkuu1891 confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. but you can argue it in your favour to be fair

[@LackLusterMedia]

01:29:00 I intentionally waited on that one and asked for the bodycam. When the original poster didn't answer my request, it was too fishy to come to conclusions. People submit at least a half dozen low context videos a week. I'd rather help them stay quiet, get the bodycam, hire a lawyer, and THEN make it viral, file a complaint, and file a lawsuit.

[@reggymcmonkey5737]

Holy shit, didn't expect to see you here It's a pleasure to see you take extra precaution when handling questionable footage

[@gusudeani6071]

Lack luster is an orbiter??

[@redridingcape]

Wasn't expecting to see LackLuster in the comments of a Destiny video, but I don't hate it. I don't always agree with Destiny but he's interesting to listen to and his takes are generally intelligent even when I don't agree.

[@rance8838]

love your vids :)

[@paulmckenzie4057]

When my 2 favorite KZbinrs unexpectedly interact it’s such a pleasant surprise

[@abimaelochoa160]

Hassan doesn't realize that an apology means nothing when you continue to make more baseless claims

[@snipersougo13]

Hassan: i was wrong, but Ned Stark: everything before the word but is horse shit

[@doublestarships646]

Let's all worry about the fact that his fans ate up all his BS and that Twitch platforms a radical propagandist. Dude is a living Justice League villain.

[@Jacqueline888]

hes a proud propagandist by his own admission. i can’t get that exchange with piers morgan out of my head. such a wild thing to say as the face of the far left on a mainstream media platform

[@doublestarships646]

@@Jacqueline888 He's trying to take away the power behind the word "propagandist" for his fans by trying to make it seem like it's not a big deal. He's done it a few times since. Actual cult leader behavior.

[@deejitv]

@@doublestarships646 This is exactly right

[@PairyKurta]

whenever i mistakenly take a glance at his chat i instantly regret it and feel a deep sadness and anger in my stomach.

[@doublestarships646]

@@memes3751 A cult is a cult lol.

[@sticks1990]

Willy has been based af over the last year. I’m glad we have more people calling out losers like Hassan as a main focus of their content

[@Eggs-n-Jakey]

Hasan really arguing with Willy about remembering a video from a year ago? Hasan couldn't remember points he made a month ago...

[@Senorbenignhillarity]

He cannot remember points he makes minutes ago

[@superturtle1011]

18:21 WillyMacShow did not come here to talk about any conflict he came to talk about Hasan's actions no?

[@AllThingsEntertaining]

Yeah pretty much.

[@70othl3ss4]

Indeed

[@MelissaM83]

Exactly 😂

[@doublestarships646]

WillyMac is there to talk about Hasan's mistakes while Hasan is derailing the subject by talking about things not related to what Willy is saying. Dude is evil.

[@scottiecurrie7927]

Bingo. Hasan is absolutely desperate throughout this to talk about the politics so he can distract from Willie pointing out his manipulation

[@kylethomas3480]

Destiny did more research for this debate than Hasan himself

[@coconamia]

hasan is not calm, cool and collected here. he’s yapping off at a million miles a second, nervous, nervous laughing, tries to change subject often, obviously frustrated but doing his best to mask it etc. this is not how a confident person behaves in a debate.

[@TR13400]

Don't forget constantly throwing ad homs and yelling, interrupting questions and answers lol

[@MournfulOG]

his palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy

[@Lunk42]

@@MournfulOG Mom's spaghetti. Which in his case probably isn't even a lie.

[@felipedidio4698]

What he's doing reminds me a lot of Trump. Like WillyNoShow and interrupting a point to say some random shit just so that the other guy can't find a rhythm.

[@Jreaddy]

Willy really got him, stood calm and didn’t resort to name calling. All chenks nephew could do is try to bait him into some random shit. He called willmac so many names someone should take count of how many time he did it.

[@TR13400]

It really was pathetic on Hasans part. I see why he doesn't debate.

[@DrMeow-wf1uj]

Hassan called him a name 72 times lmao

[@austinashworth6413]

@@DrMeow-wf1ujthe hero we didn’t know we needed

[@gabrielsanchez5553]

Wait, is he Cenk's nephew ? No wonder. 😂😂 I just found that out. I thought it was another turk doing what turks do in general in the US after getting a taste of freedom of speech.

[@CoOlKyUbI96]

Once anyone gets heated and resorts to name calling meanwhile the other side doesn’t, it’s not a good sign

[@jamiehayes7353]

It takes a special person to call someone "no show" when you're literally talking to them because they showed up. Classic Hasan moment.

[@Awaken_To_0]

And then complain that they came to your on the spot debate without doing a weeks prep.

[@IffyWilliams]

@@Awaken_To_0ahh yes having to take a week to prep for a debate on your own video having to study your own talking points.

[@VelCroweBar]

​@@IffyWilliamsyep, his own talking points from a video he made 1 year ago ...

[@zirkereuler5242]

@@IffyWilliams ah yes debating points made on a video and not watching said video.

[@IffyWilliams]

@@zirkereuler5242 >and not watching said video >has to prepare talking points for a video he made himself

[@Kenshin6321]

Hasan: Says something dumb. Willy: That thing you said wouldn't happen certainly did happen. Hasan: Yes, but do you think it was a bad thing? Hasan's should be a goalie because his deflecting is out of this world.

[@BenjiBoi696]

Hasan: I bet you don’t watch a lot of my daily 8 hour streams. How are you gonna know what you’re talking about? *refuses to watch a 20 minute video that outlines everything in an organized and digestible way*

[@WanderTheNomad]

Also Hasan: rent-free bro Whether you like him or hate him, you gotta respect his level of media manipulation.

[@scottiecurrie7927]

​@@WanderTheNomadQuite the opposite, that garners the opposite of respect from me

[@WanderTheNomad]

@@scottiecurrie7927 I mean "respect" in the sense that you *have* to take it into consideration, and not just brush it off like it's not important or doesn't exist.

[@scottiecurrie7927]

@WanderTheNomad Yeah that makes sense, I see what you mean

[@Depositron]

The irony of Hassan calling someone a drama farmer is pretty good.

[@ryancondie283]

Hamas Piker to Pierce Morgan: "I think I'm better at journalism than most journalists, more people listen to me." Hamas Piker to Willie Mac: "I'm just a streamer, nobody listens to me that's why they attack Ethan." Literally zero consistency, what a fucking joke.

[@ayceeonethirty6141]

I really wish Destiny and Hasan would just go at it cause I doubled over laughing when he started mocking his debate tactics like "What is a really a t shirt? A T SHIRT BRO?!?"

[@peterruiz6813]

Same! 😂 I laughed so hard, Destiny does a good Hasan haha 😂

[@irnbrewhaha]

They've tried. It goes crazy within 30 seconds and lasts about 5 or 10 minutes.

[@DecayedPony]

Imagine being invited over to Hasan's house / stream only to have him yell at a youtuber for 2 hours while you sit there awkwardly.

[@RaveApe]

Dude looked so bored and uncomfortable haha

[@Natej3ds]

Dude was so embarrassed he hit the vape well over 50 times... and started to try and make his vape interesting 😂

[@vinnycannoli47]

If I'm that friend I better be getting a rev share for my time on stream

[@jeltje50]

I have seen massively autistic people with more social awareness

[@austinashworth6413]

“How dare you not watch all of my 8 hour streams but I can’t be bothered to watch an hour long video that is relevant to the conversation”

[@IRageMetal]

Imagine being owned by a commentary community member being a political streamer.

[@bananian]

Truly a communist

[@colbyrob4814]

holy fuck havent seen Hasan get bodied this hard in a while

[@MKTyphon]

Hasan called a Holocaust survivor a Nazi because she is German and disagreed with him. Hasan character in a nutshell

[@frankmarano1118]

Its actually sociopathic for hasan to act like its even a viable position to pretend his coverage was well rounded & even. What an actual clown

[@spookzer16]

​@rexs.5188 I hate how people are like, "He knew she lived." Does that make Hasan seem any better? He's still getting off to human misery. I guess very technically that makes him better, but it's like comparing Cottonmouths and Diamondbacks.

[@chronographer]

This arc starting with Hasan insisting he does not cover breaking news and ending with him insisting he has been covering breaking news full time for 3 years is amazing.

[@mikea491]

Years from now, "The hospital wouldn't have exploded if isreal had just not existed!"

[@drax065]

Hasan: yOu cAmE UnPrePared! also hasan: I didnt watched the video you made about me

[@ericguillot6402]

This is my 5th time trying to get through this video. It’s mind numbing watching hamas just talk over him every time he tries to explain his criticism.

[@zambo6453]

Cuts him off a third of a way into every sentence AND throws a tantrum when he is cut off

[@CupCop69]

I hate this kind of debate culture and gets more prominent these days Like even the presidential debate these days is just a game show of who can throw more shit in one anothers face I remembered someone watching the German chancellor debate a long time ago and said it was boring.

[@clickbaitrater8945]

I'm assuming it was intentional, and I think that should be the new thing. I literally only hear Hamas when he speaks lately so why not just go with it lol.

[@emilyschwartz9536]

Hamas 😂

[@Lunk42]

It's extremely frustrating yeah. That's what he wants he doesn't want to respond to Willy's actual points so he's attempting to make him mad a maybe call him names so Hasan can then attack the name calling instead of the original point.

[@benjaminmarsicovetere8617]

“I ask for A and you give me number 3” is going in my repertoire

[@aj-us4bj]

Willy is super underrated, glad he's finally getting mainstream recognition.

[@chimchu3232]

Agreed! I love his content, been waiting for a destiny/willymac crossover haha

[@jonnytree8972]

True

[@lawrencecobb2107]

What’s his main thing?

[@samueljones3668]

​@@lawrencecobb2107 He was like Coffeezilla for Content Creators.

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Bro he's sneeky-smart, does his research, and edits well- best commentary channel in the game

[@syraphian]

I think the best part of this whole video is watching how clearly uncomfortable Felix is watching Hasan’s performance and behavior here

[@atticusmatkin46]

It’s funny that Felix is always hanging out in some of Hasan’s worst debate moments.

[@skyofthelivingdead]

That’s why he was puffing that vape like a chimney, lmfao.

[@samanthaorologio6866]

I've never seen him before but the moment Hasan pulled this part of him out, I watched and waited to see this dude in the back be ANY bit real, a real human, and show discomfort, disdain, anything... I'm still watching but I don't know of him well enough to know his cues either. But this gives me hope. Ugh.

[@syraphian]

@@samanthaorologio6866 he’s one of the guys from chapo trap house. I don’t listen to them anymore but Felix was the best part by far, he’s super fucking funny. He’s been on cumtown before to give you an idea of what his humor is kind of like. Politics wise, he’s dirtbag left, definitely aligns with Hasan on Israel Palestine. But I think he was trying to not make any facial expressions bc he agreed with hasan but didn’t want to endorse how he was acting or looking during the convo

[@TheSanndwichh]

Imagine being the dude in the back, who stopped by to kick it with your boy for a bit, and you spend half of it just sitting by vaping while he screams at a dude you never met about a topic you don’t really care about lol

[@superfarful]

Lmao I felt so bad for that guy, it's so fucking awkward just sitting there while Hasan freaks the fuck out and embarrasses himself and that guy is just being watched by hasan's whole audience lol

[@Blazingakatosh]

Hasan is so self absorbed I don't think he gives a fuck. In my age I have dropped plenty of "friends" for this behavior its not worth it.

[@davewade30]

If you know that over thousands of hours of trying to cover breaking news that you are bound to get it wrong from time to time, maybe employ a bit more humility. That's Willie's whole point and Hasan just can't wrap his mind around it.

[@samanthaorologio6866]

Egggggsxactly dude. I fucking hate the lack thereof. He's exactly the opposite of that.

[@Lunk42]

He's too full of himself to have even a sliver of self awareness.

[@mloclam6917]

Imagine being hassans uncle 😂

[@Grumhead]

Imagine being Cenks nephew.😂

[@bajsmongo2000]

jesus christ, Hasan got so dogwalked, first youtube commentator/essayist that actually does well on a live "debate"

[@luisnunez5017]

Acheeto's audience found Hasan so BORING that they started counting how many puffs Hasan's friend did on his vape during the entire debate instead. Pathetic.

[@melonbread4269]

I don't get how anyone can think hasan is even mildly decent at debating when he resorts to name calling when he's being confronted

[@DaveOh]

it never gets old watching Hasan speaking yapanese about a completely unrelated topic when someone wants to stick to a specific point about how he opperates

[@scottiecurrie7927]

I was saying the same thing, he's a master in Yapology

[@TheMastermind729]

Hamas “I would never consider all Israelis occupiers because I think that’s unproductive” Piker

[@TR13400]

​@@TheMastermind729 But the babies are definitely settlers

[@WickedIndigo]

That “Capitalism is Voluntary” sweater on Hasan is the funniest and most aggravating thing of all time I swear to god

[@dinuffin]

Capitalism is not voluntary.

[@VeigarIII]

This was so painful to watch … Hasan talked in circles and did not engage with willy in good faith

[@NormieArthur]

Hasan dipping his toes back into drama debate has got to be heartbreaking for his fans. If he keeps this up, he wont have much of an excuse to divert away from a debating DGG orbiter who criticizes him.

[@paperpersona1243]

Or even worse... destiny himself

[@Crabunderscore]

is it really a debate if you keep your mic louder than the other guy, spam listen and hold on and talk over the other guy for 2 hours without letting him speak a full sentence?

[@vallano8970]

I would pay so much to see Hasan's reaction to himself losing fans

[@helio68]

He won't care until he starts losing money

[@bananian]

He about to get a ton of subs from Hamas terrorists.

[@fivedudes]

unfortunately his viewership is about to kick into high gear during election season probs

[@luminous3558]

Hasan fans arent sentient, they won't leave him.

[@Pherioxus]

''This is important!'' ''You're saying it every time but it never is'' Truer words were never spoken.

[@sxewhil]

It stuns me how Hasan has escaped lolcow status. To me, he’s infinitely worse than the likes of wings of redemption, but he is handsomely rewarded for it

[@reharl4953]

He's the world's richest lolcow. The fact anyone actually gives this turd money is beyond me.

[@baseplayer21]

On behalf of New Jersey, I’d like to apologize for Hasan. I’ve slowly come to realize that a lot of how Hasan talks, this aggressiveness and insulting dialogue, is just how we talk when mad and I think he picked that up while at Rutgers.

[@brettstarks1846]

He never had the makings of a varsity debater.

[@vp922]

Damn Rutgers really is an Islamist shithole (the uni)

[@Ryan-sf8nf]

Nah he would actually be funny if that was true

[@samanthaorologio6866]

Lol I will admit, allowing myself to believe this does feel a little better.

[@adamgentile7953]

Ya I don't get Jersey moments often but when I do I always feel dirty and embarrassed after the fact even if I'm right or not necessarily wrong

[@inviz88]

Hasan saying "My analysis" is so funny. All he does is knee-jerk reactions and wild speculation.

[@samanthaorologio6866]

It's the worst thing about him to me. Professionalizing his BS to sound so manicured, thoughtful and informed when he SO STUPID and emotionally based is RIDICULOUS and it drives me crazy. I'd care none if he were not directly creating an essential army of followers that hang onto his every word and go forth and function in the same world sane people do. 🤦‍♀️

[@Schlitorous]

Cool pfp

[@Cga12347]

Hasan all the fucking time: “geez man. These debate lords are super cringey dude.” Also Hasan: *exemplifies cringey debate lord*

[@dollarmeatstore]

i'm an ex-tankie, thankfully, people can definitely change. Retardation is not always permanent.

[@Classikh]

💀

[@tongpoo8985]

Congrats on your recovery brother take it day by day 🙏 I used to be an ancap purist libertarian so I can sympathize

[@dollarmeatstore]

@@tongpoo8985 wow, so you're another overcoming retardation success story - congrats, friend.

[@Chang-u6e]

Congrats brother! Being able to accept when you're wrong is what makes you better then most.

[@dollarmeatstore]

@@Chang-u6e thanks! I appreciate that. I try.

[@matthewpeverill5688]

If I was WillyMac after hearing Hamasan didn't even watch the video I would have just hit him with the "Okay lets go, what did I say that you took issue with?"

[@samanthaorologio6866]

Damnit that's actually a pretty good alternate ending. I've seen so many "he should'ves" and this is the first one I'm like damn...yeah that would've been a good one. And held strong on it...

[@krollmond7544]

Immediate win lol

[@spookzer16]

​@@krollmond7544 I love how it was still an immediate win. "Did you watch the video?" "No." "My point was that you go into topics unprepared."

[@BindMedia]

"why would I have to research a video about myself" I don't know, so you can stand a chance in a debate? So you know what points he makes so you can engineer responses and refute said points? Hasan is so high off his own fumes, it's incredible. Does he know how debates are supposed to work? He's as bad as Trump, honestly

[@Sebashtin]

Destiny's willingness to grow and learn is commendable. Initially, I found him insufferable, but increasingly, I notice him viewing the world through a lens that is far more beneficial to many people. The cognitive dissonance on Hasan is nauseating.

[@krollmond7544]

I first found Destiny thru Sargon, I can't believe that I respected Sargon at any point, it soon passed on to Destiny lol.

[@WormGamer-rf1lq]

​@meteorjuice4088 don't be so apathetic

[@a.b3203]

@@meteorjuice4088”and this is pretty standard behavior for a human being”

[@ygsm1337]

​@@meteorjuice4088I mean Destiny is not full of just perpetual Ws. No human are, why is that so weird to you? 🐑🐑🐑🐑

[@Sebashtin]

@@robmoreno3094 See, this is the fundamental problem, you're misrepresenting the truth, it isn't hospitals that are being targeted but, enemy combatants.

[@686Nadeau]

Hasan: This is really important to understand Willy: You say that everytime but it never is. 😂😂😂

[@davidddo]

hissan🐍🐍 (im ukrainian)

[@frankiemiller5364]

“If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table." By this point Hasan needs a new table 😂

[@andi8343]

Hasans Chat has given me brain damage

[@immunityframes560]

I find it funny that Hasan accuses Willy of "getting your news through clips" when Hasan is constantly using headlines as his source, and using sources that directly contradict what he's saying.

[@etherealfoxproductions]

I can guarantee you that Cenk’s nephew doesn’t read a full article or a publication. He has misquoted police statistics, misconstrues quotations, and always crafts a narrative which is completely off base from reality. The guy is an absolute pseudo intellectual.

[@bitrage.]

To be honest, that dude completely demolishes Hasan in those videos... like just stating the facts...

[@AJ_from_Queens]

Destiny man, we don’t see eye to eye on much politically but I do respect your ability to remain grounded. Your classic liberalism that refuses to pander to extremism is a breath of fresh air dude

[@Trecesolotienesdos]

Hasan.....let's be frank. He only has a position due to his looks and uncle's connections/career. Cenk at the least is of substance and lacks the fakeness and scumminess. How he treated Ethan - he let his suppsoed friend break down over not acknowledging anti-Semitic rhetoric when he is Jewish himself - was despicable.

[@Grumhead]

Cenk and Hasan are both known liars.

[@ImTheMan0fSteel]

I tried to warn Ethan. Ethan is a genuine guy. He's not always right, he's been wrong and done wrong plenty of times, but he's genuine. He didn't understand a lot and TRUSTED Hassan was going to be real, and provide real information, and wouldn't take advantage. Hassan did take advantage of Ethan. And he absolutely is a victim of Hassan and his radical fan base. I cannot stand how Hassan has coopted and corrupted every cause I care about. He butchers them and makes us all look like dangerous fools.

[@OGslays]

His uncle is just as bad an ignorant that's how he learned to be this way.

[@riverlady982]

Cenk is just better at faking not being scummy and the only substance he's made of is bull crap. Cenk even has the same debate style as Hassan of insulting them, talking over them when to the extent of not letting them ever finish making their point or defend their point, interrupting them to the point of telling them to shut up, fixating on a small unimportant part of what their saying that's not relevant to the point their making, and also Hassan just like Cenk will start saying 'can we just move on' over and over when they're caught lying and clearly unable to defend their previous statements or their past or current point in any factual or meaningful way. Just like they both always say 'stop, stop, wait a minute, (ending with the whiney) juuust listennn' then insulting the person their debating or complaining about the way the person is debating them as if Hassan is being victimized by them and he goes back and forth between those two tactics on each occasion he does it and also just like Cenk then usually tries to change the point or topic of the conversation just like Hassan keeps going back to soil samples that he surely knows why nobody will ever be allowed to get let alone a second party or anyone other than Hamas because Hamas won't allow it particularly when they know it wouldn't come back as Israel's rocket. The only difference I see between Hassan and Cenk is Hassan talks a bit faster. They both have to constantly be the center of attention and get positive reinforcement from the people around them and Hassan seems to treat Ethan and use him for social credit much like Cenk uses Ana Casparian. Much like Anna and Ethan seem to be willing to do and say anything to make their boss's audience happy and to support or even further the narrative even at their personal expense. I have now seen video of Hassan's watchers driving Ethan to tears just like I have seen Ana Casparian driven to tears by Cenk's watchers. I hadn't even really heard of or seen the sun until that recent clip of Ethan being driven to tears went viral but it seems like I've watched him already a ton of times because in this one video I've felt like I'm once again watching an episode of the first year of TYT and he seems to consider and treat the same Legacy Media Sources to be inside information and on the ground reporting. After this video I'm already as tired of feeling like I'm being yelled at by somebody on KZbin as when I used to force myself to watch TYT as part of trying to make sure I got my news from both sides.

[@MUSHROOMAN4]

@@ImTheMan0fSteelEthan isn’t genuine. Just a bread tuber attempting to take advantage of an ignorant audience.

[@Daimyo-]

love you destiny for exposing this clown