Arcs is 2024’s Best New Board Game

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@DrMcFly28
@DrMcFly28 6 күн бұрын
The review kinda left it ambiguous if Tom liked the game or not
@goldribbedfisherman
@goldribbedfisherman 6 күн бұрын
Agreed, still have no idea what this game is about, lol
@royalsapphire1196
@royalsapphire1196 6 күн бұрын
A classic shut up and sit down review
@e3gh757
@e3gh757 6 күн бұрын
Weirder!
@tuomasronnberg5244
@tuomasronnberg5244 6 күн бұрын
Yeah Tom, tell us how you really feel about the game!
@stefandrawert
@stefandrawert 6 күн бұрын
The section on the the numerous Cons was so much longer than the Pros 😂
@davidlarsen3698
@davidlarsen3698 6 күн бұрын
Oh god, Tom, your superpower is making me buy four-letter board games.
@justindinger6173
@justindinger6173 6 күн бұрын
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's "Very specific capitalist influencer man!"
@andyflinders8333
@andyflinders8333 6 күн бұрын
Oath? :D
@eopatcjo
@eopatcjo 6 күн бұрын
Ahoy
@isaaclorrain9269
@isaaclorrain9269 6 күн бұрын
Oh my gosh, how have I never noticed this. Root, Fort, Ahoy, Oath, Arcs...
@eopatcjo
@eopatcjo 6 күн бұрын
@@davidlarsen3698 and VAST
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 6 күн бұрын
BUT DO YOU LIKE IT?
@MrTomlette
@MrTomlette 6 күн бұрын
I think it's open to interpretation.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 6 күн бұрын
@@MrTomlette I’ll have to watch part 2 and see.
@undeco_niclas
@undeco_niclas 5 күн бұрын
If Rodney comments, I'm here for it
@markfukubayashi4062
@markfukubayashi4062 3 күн бұрын
Just started the video and he said "Arcs is the best boardgame I have ever played"
@melo0187
@melo0187 3 күн бұрын
Why did they choose to have meeple university do the official how to play video? I am hoping @WatchItPlayed is going to give this game their own how to play none the less. Rodney's teach is unmatched!
@camipco
@camipco 6 күн бұрын
For future reference, if anyone has a really long video and then there's a second part and they want me to watch the second part, ending part one with "and it gets weirder" will 100% do the job every time.
@eric9124
@eric9124 6 күн бұрын
If I had a nickel for every 30+ min Leder Games review from Tom where he said their new game is his favourite of all time, I’d have two nickels, etc etc. In all seriousness though, I’m super happy to see this game deliver on its promises!
@ekulio
@ekulio 6 күн бұрын
That video makes me doubt his opinion on this one ...Oath is fun but definitely not *the greatest game ever*
@JohnDiGrizUkraine
@JohnDiGrizUkraine 6 күн бұрын
​@@ekulio it's like third best imo
@uhhhclem
@uhhhclem 5 күн бұрын
A vanishingly small number of American viewers will have the first idea what "a stick of rock" is, let alone what the hell Tom's use of it in a tortured metaphor could possibly mean. As a public service: Rock is a Britishism for a specific kind of hard candy similar to what Americans would call a peppermint stick. Originally called Blackpool Rock (or, for you Graham Greene fans, Brighton Rock) based on whatever resort town sold it. The difference between rock and peppermint sticks is twofold: first, rock is quite a bit thicker, maybe twice the diameter of a peppermint stick. Second, the candy is made so that in cross-section, it has a design - for instance, the letters BLACKPOOL ROCK. The design runs the length of the stick, so that wherever you break it, the design's visible. As with millefiori, which uses a very similar production technique, only for glass. (Millefiori: also a Reiner Knizia board game. Onward.) Hence: "dramatically lopsided games that have an asymmetry running through them like a stick of rock...though it would have to be a really _wide_ stick of rock to fit the word "asymmetry" through it, you know?"
@CCP
@CCP 5 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@wassentme1891
@wassentme1891 4 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@ArtrexDenthur
@ArtrexDenthur 4 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@ClarkPotter
@ClarkPotter 2 күн бұрын
Thank you
@Mr_Wallet
@Mr_Wallet Күн бұрын
Thank you!
@revbrentcolby
@revbrentcolby 6 күн бұрын
You know it’s serious when the cards are sleeved. 😅
@d20plusmodifier
@d20plusmodifier 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for drawing attention to the Kyle Ferrin Artwork Klaxon. It's always going off at my house and my children are so tired.
@nthonyholden
@nthonyholden 3 күн бұрын
My house, too, Kyle. But here we just let it blare on.
@seanmcgowan4842
@seanmcgowan4842 Күн бұрын
I was wondering what that noise was when we were playing FORT the other day… ps: Iove your work!
@Mia_linking
@Mia_linking 6 күн бұрын
We played our first 3-player game (non-campaign) last week and it blew us away. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it since. My personal game of the year (at least until I get Earthborne Rangers in my hands - then we'll see)
@somerandomperson8282
@somerandomperson8282 4 күн бұрын
Can you please provide more info on what you loved about it? :)
@Supersketch84
@Supersketch84 3 күн бұрын
Excited to play Earthborne too in (around) December! And now I gotta find a copy of Arcs. SUSD is really driving sales.
@Averageeveydayuser
@Averageeveydayuser 16 сағат бұрын
Wait how come you already have it? Kickstarter?
@xavier622
@xavier622 5 күн бұрын
Played through 2 acts of the campaign last weekend. After first game, we all said, "Well that was kind of interesting...but I can't quite see where this is going". After the second game where planets were being obliterated, space mushrooms were being befriended, and one player was desperately trying to hold together the crumbling empire while the rest of us gleefully pushed the metaphorical head of the drowning empire underwater while also somehow paying taxes into it we all realized, "Ah...this is not what I thought it was going to be at all." In the best way. Cole, Kyle, and Leder Games have done it again.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 2 күн бұрын
This possibly even moreso than the video, convinced me that this game is probably not for me.
@lucas56sdd
@lucas56sdd 6 күн бұрын
IT IS SO GOOD! The designers learned everything they could from making Root and Oath and combined the best parts of both to create a Ti4 sized experience in half the rules and double the convenience. A masterstroke.
@jksalamon
@jksalamon 6 күн бұрын
Pin this pls
@broganirwin864
@broganirwin864 6 күн бұрын
Is the campaign really half the rules? I don't have my copy yet but have watched some playthroughs and it does seem pretty convoluted to learn.
@Shazirah_Kaur
@Shazirah_Kaur 6 күн бұрын
​​​​@@broganirwin864I think the Ti4 comparison to base Arcs is a bit apple to oranges. I can see the Ti4 comparison to Blighted Reach -- that's a different price range (and different video!), though, than base Arcs. It does matter what a person considers the core experience to a Ti4, though. But when it comes to creating an epic feeling space narrative in a game session, absolutely, Blighted Reach does that. And with fewer rules, ya.
@AJ-pn9dm
@AJ-pn9dm 6 күн бұрын
Arcs is nothing like Twilight Imperium
@rachelandryan
@rachelandryan 6 күн бұрын
I thought there was only one designer?
@JD-qq8fz
@JD-qq8fz 6 күн бұрын
"There's just so much game in this individual system" hell yeah, that's better than the other way around
@bentoja4563
@bentoja4563 6 күн бұрын
LETS GOOOOOOO! Hyped for Blighted Reach video, was lucky enough to be apart of the playtesting team I hope everyone enjoys it!!
@Shazirah_Kaur
@Shazirah_Kaur 6 күн бұрын
I taught this game to someone who got a bit on edge that the attacker makes all the decisions in combat. At first, I didn't understand why it seemed to sit ill with him, but then he explained that it felt like some of the perceived gaming agency he had been accustomed to, trained to in most other board games had been taken from him. I wonder how particular that is, but if that's something that might bother you or your gamer pal, too, just a thing to put on radars: the attacker makes all combat decisions in base Arcs, including choosing which defending units were hit/destroyed when the dice rolls need to be doled out. In this and many ways (said video above), it turns the formula on its head.
@nin_4_me58
@nin_4_me58 5 күн бұрын
Well…. initiative is key in this game…. Get it and use it!
@SwedishWookie
@SwedishWookie 5 күн бұрын
Yeah I can see that, our miniature gaming group really miss rolling to save your models from harm when attacked. Which most games do so when there's no 'save' it feels kinda bad, like your agency to even have a chance (cube) to save your little plastic dudes is taken away :P
@kevinsun7617
@kevinsun7617 4 күн бұрын
Arcs used to have defended agency, but then eventually evolved to just assume the defender “acts reasonably”. All the damage and intercepts on the dice represents the defender’s attempt at defending themselves
@davidburkhardt5265
@davidburkhardt5265 6 күн бұрын
I’ve had the game out on my kitchen table since it came in the mail. I just enjoy looking at it. I’m nearly to the point I’m going to put a sign in the yard telling strangers to come in and play with me.
@anthonyochs48
@anthonyochs48 6 күн бұрын
Holy shit I remember when the Oath review dropped it’s been 3 years 😳
@BenChandler-xo4fm
@BenChandler-xo4fm 6 күн бұрын
If Tom doesn't eat a raw onion in the part two we riot.
@Chozo_hybrid
@Chozo_hybrid 6 күн бұрын
The one thing I hate about kickstarter games, is hearing about them after the campaign has already ended. I look forward to getting this at retail though.
@SwedishWookie
@SwedishWookie 5 күн бұрын
And I hate when it's absolutely silent AFTER a game's kickstarter when the game is done and released. Like there's a bunch of hype videos for the kickstarter and 0 reviews afterwards.
@Dubblevishion
@Dubblevishion 5 күн бұрын
You can preorder it from their website right now.
@boycebulldog
@boycebulldog 5 күн бұрын
Luckily Leder gates nothing behind the Kickstarter Campaign. Everything will be at retail in the same version.
@dejavu_d
@dejavu_d 5 күн бұрын
On crowfunding you get a cheaper bundle from them but retail preorders are close enough
@ConsummateGamer
@ConsummateGamer 6 күн бұрын
SUSD this is a call to come and visit the Twin Cities the birthplace of both Arcs & Earthborne Rangers!
@chrisberkenbyrne4363
@chrisberkenbyrne4363 6 күн бұрын
& Twilight Imperium & Pandemic & Too Many Bones & so many more!
@davidlein2438
@davidlein2438 4 күн бұрын
We in the Twin Cities are very fortunate when it comes to Board Game quality.
@benrazidlo515
@benrazidlo515 5 күн бұрын
Somewhere in Minneapolis, Cole and the Leder team are watching this review and all of the great work making this masterpiece is being validated. Almost officially.
@tinstargames
@tinstargames 6 күн бұрын
“This game will please absolutely everyone” (Two minutes later) “You can’t play peacefully”
@mavweirdo
@mavweirdo 6 күн бұрын
"You know what I mean when I say Space Games right?" Well, when I think Space games I think Race for the Galaxy, Moonrakers, and Space Base.
@alxvdark
@alxvdark 6 күн бұрын
Yes, the brakes went on in my head almost immediately upon hearing that there was aggression between players. That is not our group's vibe at all
@bexarath
@bexarath 6 күн бұрын
Exactly this. I'll just mark this one down in the category "I appreciate your passion for the game but it doesn't interest me at all."
@Kevin720c
@Kevin720c 6 күн бұрын
if there is agression, me and my girl will love this. She really likes games that require conflict just to piss me off haha
@hudeduge9240
@hudeduge9240 5 күн бұрын
(Also 15 minutes later) I'm still explaining rules that aren't Euro game elegant. Let's just say that you can tell Cole is a wargamer at heart.
@thomashughes7336
@thomashughes7336 6 күн бұрын
SUSD's review arrived before my copy 😭
@LukasGehring89
@LukasGehring89 6 күн бұрын
cries in EU
@niedrzyjsietak
@niedrzyjsietak 6 күн бұрын
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who hasn't received theirs yet. : )
@markd2060
@markd2060 6 күн бұрын
The UK wait goes on 😭... was already excited for this to arrive before Tom's review.
@SwedishWookie
@SwedishWookie 5 күн бұрын
same ;__;
@styfen
@styfen 6 күн бұрын
Tom is such a great barometer for games I should not purchase. This review really helped me understand what Arcs is and why I shouldn't get it. I genuinely appreciate that.
@FBracht
@FBracht 6 күн бұрын
Care to elaborate? I pinky-swear I'm not planning to be confrontational regardless of what you end up replying. I'm just so far off on the other side of this take that I can't imagine how it must feel
@shade270
@shade270 6 күн бұрын
The game seems like a big box, competitive, tactical, and with lots of parts to track. Tom seems to like that sort of thing. If that's not something your into then this review is a pretty good highlight on why you should on this.
@cooly1234
@cooly1234 6 күн бұрын
@@FBracht some people like playing sinegleplayer games next to each other. y'know the ones where you never or almost never interact. This is not that.
@BillJarrett
@BillJarrett 4 күн бұрын
I guess everyone’s game collections are different. I own Arcs - and if we are talking about the base game he is showing it’s not a big box. The box is probably closer to the size of Root. The expansion box on the other hand is enormous. I haven’t even opened it so I can’t speak to it. It setups up and tears down fast. The base game where everyone is symmetrical is easy to teach and play. The added complexity and parts to make the game asymmetrical is just cards given at the beginning to give special powers. My family all loves very different games but this has been good for most of us. It has strategic depth but the rules are simple enough the box did not have to include a “Law of Arcs” book like other Wehrle games do. So as far as big box with lots of parts this is one of the more accessible games I have that I wouldn’t call a family game. I’d probably put it around the complexity level of Dune Imperium, yet I find it a lot more interesting to play.
@ambrosius
@ambrosius 2 күн бұрын
Yes, this review helped me realise I don’t really want to play this. I can recognise and appreciate the good design of the game, but I don’t find these intensely negotiating, super confrontational game that fun. I like to see game mechanics reflect the theme, and I don’t really get the sense that the theme really shines through in this.
@thepopefrancis3015
@thepopefrancis3015 6 күн бұрын
Was expecting the classic mid review turnaround 'BUT' to close out the video but that ending made me even more interested
@VerenaS8
@VerenaS8 6 күн бұрын
This is amazing, Tom! The atmosphere you create, the music, the beautiful shots of the game. I really like the sincere reviewing interspersed with silly bits to keep our attention. More sustainable for you to make but still informative and a joy to watch ❤
@MagralhoPT
@MagralhoPT 6 күн бұрын
The satisfactory music as background music! what the hell!!!! I got sooo messed up because I was like... what?! (7:58 for anyone wondering)
@fuzzzy88
@fuzzzy88 6 күн бұрын
HA. 1.0 is going to be releasing in a couple weeks. :)
@TheXtrafresh
@TheXtrafresh 6 күн бұрын
wow... I'm a few thousand hours into that game, so it's basically always in my skull, and I didn't even notice.
@KevlarGorilla
@KevlarGorilla 18 сағат бұрын
@@fuzzzy88 September 10th, this year, actually
@CarrotandStick
@CarrotandStick 6 күн бұрын
I get that this game may be genius, but I can't shake the feeling that I, personally, would hate Arcs but adore Oath. Which I still need to get my grubby little hands on to try.
@evin2840
@evin2840 6 күн бұрын
THE REVIEW IS HERE? AND ITS TWO PARTS? Tom is cooking
@syeblaize
@syeblaize 6 күн бұрын
Arcs is brilliant. But it is NOT straightforward. Like many Leder games, it approaches a genre that is well trodden (such as space game) and turns everything on its head (by making action selection into a trick taking game). I think grokking the mechanics of the game takes a game at least for most people. This is mostly because not only is the shared rulespace between space game and trick taking game is basically 0 (knowing how to play the Crew is only half the battle!), but also that Arcs doesn't do almost anything else like other Space games either. Control is based on fully repaired ships, but damaged ships still have guns. Combat is based entirely on the aggressor, but can cause tremendous backlash for those who are not cautious enough. Victory points are based on who controls what resources (in a very limited pool of resources) at any given time. You might even run out of ships or agents if the relevant scoring hasn't happened in a few turns. Everything works together, but how it works together is absolutely unlike any other game you've played.
@Giguv05
@Giguv05 6 күн бұрын
Grokking >_>
@paulsousa
@paulsousa 5 күн бұрын
I don’t disagree it’ll take a play to feel comfortable with the action selection mechanism, but Arcs is definitely much more straightforward than Root or Oath. It was hands down the easiest teach of the three for me.
@somerandomperson8282
@somerandomperson8282 4 күн бұрын
Grokking sounds like something... unwholesome.
@naturesfinest2408
@naturesfinest2408 3 күн бұрын
​@@paulsousaeasier to learn, teach, and play?
@paulsousa
@paulsousa 3 күн бұрын
@@naturesfinest2408 I would say yes since you can on-ramp with just the base game, then add Leaders & Lore if you want some starting asymmetry, and finally go to the campaign if you want full blown Leder/Wehrle weirdness.
@50mm_
@50mm_ 6 күн бұрын
It's about time. I've only been able to play three games… 1 2 player, 1 3 player, and 1 4 player, but it is captivating. I always leave the game thinking about each chapter, wondering what I could have done to be more efficient.
@pjdarkr7019
@pjdarkr7019 6 күн бұрын
@13:05 casually putting these specific BGG users on blast. I'm here for it.
@CasualSax
@CasualSax 6 күн бұрын
This review begged for balance, hate that this is the avenue they chose to find some.
@ambrosius
@ambrosius 2 күн бұрын
And I don’t disagree with the reviewers either. Just because the reviewer enjoys it doesn’t mean it’s for everyone.
@rosmith606
@rosmith606 6 күн бұрын
I am (I guess similarly to Tom) Werhle pilled. John Company, Oath and now Arcs are absolutely in my top shelf games in the board gaming space. Just fantastic game design and development all around with a big ol' BUT - they take such a specific mindset to really engage with and appreciate, so it's very easy (and understandable) for folks to bounce off them if it's not the style of game they are looking for. I'm glad that Arcs is the most accessible as it has the core design foundations that interest me (unreliable planning, emergent narrative, some campaign elements that aren't permanently destroying game pieces). Anyway, looking forward to the 2nd part of this vid (I say, while still watching this'n).
@redreelpro
@redreelpro 6 күн бұрын
Do I sense a "Dharma Initiative Orientation Video"-style format when explaining resources? Fantastic video.
@derekschroeder291
@derekschroeder291 6 күн бұрын
Thank you SUSD for inevitably knocking “The Dick Sits” off of the top of the BGG hot list with this video
@FelipeRodrigues-vj1zb
@FelipeRodrigues-vj1zb 6 күн бұрын
It's currently in first place, so I don't think that's happening right now 😅
@adamstofsky4244
@adamstofsky4244 6 күн бұрын
@@FelipeRodrigues-vj1zb Yeah somehow it's still there. What the heck?
@jorgis123
@jorgis123 6 күн бұрын
I didn't know this was a thing. Going to give it 10 stars now! Thanks for pointing it out.
@paulvalery9778
@paulvalery9778 6 күн бұрын
come on Nightshift!
@craigandrews7544
@craigandrews7544 6 күн бұрын
All the precious BGG users unite and head for the thumbs up 👍 on this comment
@tiusic
@tiusic 6 күн бұрын
The asymmetry of the Leaders and Lore stuff reminds me a lot of Cosmic Encounter, which is a favourite in my family. Can't wait to get my hands on Arcs
@FBracht
@FBracht 6 күн бұрын
I fully expected Arcs to be a masterclass in game design. But I never expected it would overtake Root as my favorite game of all time.
@jangohemmes352
@jangohemmes352 6 күн бұрын
This sounds so promising, Root is my favorite game too
@w7w7w7w7w7
@w7w7w7w7w7 6 күн бұрын
*wipes tears away with a Fuel Cartel card* It's beautiful!!!! 😭
@SeeJayMac
@SeeJayMac 6 күн бұрын
Colour me fuckin' stoked. Spent the afternoon unboxing and prepping my copy for a cottage trip. Thanks for the awesome vid!
@Elboy522
@Elboy522 6 күн бұрын
who the fuck has friends who will play the same board game 40 times in a month??!! must be nice
@morganstevenson7614
@morganstevenson7614 6 күн бұрын
I think he has been playing on TTS for longer than that.
@ormhaxan
@ormhaxan 6 күн бұрын
SUSD also received an early copy of the physical game all the way back in March.
@DerekHohls
@DerekHohls 4 күн бұрын
@@ormhaxan Yes, he said its been a few months. But still, some of us who are not boardgame reviewers would be overjoyed to play 40 times (any game!) in a year ...
@RyknowToGo
@RyknowToGo 3 күн бұрын
Having played a few games now, I agree with Tom's sentiment. I am interested to know what the rest of the SUSD crew thinks about it, given Tom is admittedly quite biased when it comes to Cole Wehrle.
@cirthador1453
@cirthador1453 6 күн бұрын
I was not sure about buying Arcs once it got to retail...until this review. The thing that gets me most excited about Arcs is all of the absolutely beautiful reviews packed so full of emotion and narrative. And this is the best of those reviews by far. Can not wait for part 2!
@Averageeveydayuser
@Averageeveydayuser 9 сағат бұрын
Wait, it is in retail already? Cant find in EU shops still. Tells me it will be on shelves in December
@cirthador1453
@cirthador1453 4 сағат бұрын
@@Averageeveydayuser Yeah, it will not be on shelves until at least October, if not later. I was just saying that I was excited for once it got there.
@kaitai7302
@kaitai7302 6 күн бұрын
This review may have taken awhile to come out, but boy was it worth it. Just wish I had more friend to play it with.
@AlasdairMacKinnon
@AlasdairMacKinnon 6 күн бұрын
The lack of a solo mode saddens me. Yes, I get that it would be difficult to design one...but they just did one for Oath after saying they couldn't. Hopefully, we'll eventually get a clockwork Arcs.
@cryptorcd9352
@cryptorcd9352 5 күн бұрын
@@AlasdairMacKinnon They have 2 designers specifically for solo games so it probably will happen down the line.
@randomir
@randomir 6 күн бұрын
Great review. Really captures what an unexpectedly elegant game that Arcs turned out to be. So happy I backed.
@joanofsnark
@joanofsnark 3 күн бұрын
i skimmed this the other day and saw this in store yesterday and immediately invested. i was genuinely shocked at how affordable the box and the lore/legends addition was im so excited to play. coming back around to make sure i have the gameplay down before i host a game. i love yalls work, i got the vibes immediately and just know this will be a hit. Thank you for all this great work you do to help us sort out which games we want! the last few games i got were all susd recommended and theyve all been hits.
@jjschm20
@jjschm20 6 күн бұрын
I actually prefer Cole’s Wehrlegig games (Pax Pamir, John Company, etc) to his Leder stuff. But Root is still a Top 10 game for me. I basically worship at the altar of Cole’s game designs.
@Hghartung
@Hghartung 6 күн бұрын
I'm gonna finish the video first but from that intro I'm very sold that I want this game. I haven't bought a board game in about a year because I'm pretty reserved about adding new things to my collection but this seems like the exception and it doesn't play like anything I have. I also really like this art style for a scifiish game. It almost feels like it could fall into any genre and is close to minimalist but still beautiful
@naturesfinest2408
@naturesfinest2408 3 күн бұрын
And its relatievly inexspensive for what you get. Only 40 dollars u.s. Leder games doesnt dissapoint me, and like you i tend not to add things ti my collection. This will be the one game I will get this year.
@mreed7947
@mreed7947 6 күн бұрын
Arcs is the game that finally pushed me over the "the churn" line. I'm sick of not getting to replay favorite games because I feel guilty about the new game sitting on my shelf. I want to rip Arcs apart and know every nook and cranny of that box. I sold dozens of games in the last few weeks. I'm much happier now. Thanks Leder. You've made me a happier gamer.
@FBracht
@FBracht 5 күн бұрын
Same!! I’m out of my dating period with board games. Used to date as much as I could, had one night stands, experimented as much as I could. Now I’m happy to settle down and keep a stable and faithful relationship only with my 15-20 preferred partners.
@somerandomperson8282
@somerandomperson8282 4 күн бұрын
@@FBracht same here guys, I am selling everything in my collection that I do not love. Boiling a collection down to games you love is the way forward.
@naturesfinest2408
@naturesfinest2408 3 күн бұрын
​​​@@somerandomperson8282im glad to see this taking off in the hobby. My personality has always gravitated towards replayabilty rather than new and fresh. Which means the market might make a, maybe only slight, shift in that direction. I know some games have "replayability". But I mean over and over. Not just 20 times.
@kolos0139
@kolos0139 6 күн бұрын
Awesome review Tomy can't wait for part 2! On a sidenotey what music did ya'll use in this one? I've definetly identified satisfactory, and maybe citizen sleeper so far....
@willch1337
@willch1337 Күн бұрын
So, I had completely forgotten that Leder Games was working on this and, after Tom opening saying this was his current favourite new game, I had one of those chills-down-the-back moments when I saw the box art, so distinct from Kyle Ferren and Leder Games. I'm a huge fan of both Root and Oath, and hearing SUSD sing its praises is definitely exciting!
@brandonrahhal6989
@brandonrahhal6989 Күн бұрын
I watched the whole video but I think I could’ve stopped at “trick taking space game” and still be enthralled
@pudicio
@pudicio 6 күн бұрын
I wish this review had a section at the end: who won't like this game. Is SUSD leaving this format?
@danjosefsson1715
@danjosefsson1715 2 күн бұрын
It's a sad development. Especially in combination with the referral links.
@Jumbocrableg
@Jumbocrableg 19 сағат бұрын
noticing this as well :(
@zacdredge3859
@zacdredge3859 11 сағат бұрын
Well it's a 2 part video so we'll see. Hopefully Tom realises.
@webaker
@webaker 6 күн бұрын
I've only played the base game a couple times so far, but I think what it addressed in Cole's designs from Root and Oath (snappier turns, clear journey arcs -haha-) that you point out, particularly applied to grand strategy space games, is what I think I love MOST about this. I'm a play fast kind of board gamer and I think that --finally-- aligns well here
@negativespace6218
@negativespace6218 6 күн бұрын
Holy shit what a beautiful review - thanks for the wonderful insight, this really helped me understand the idea behind Arcs and the massive potential it holds.
@alxvdark
@alxvdark 6 күн бұрын
Great review Tom. I feel I could tell from your description that it is not my group's cup of tea, despite having some interesting mechanisms. Which is important to convey, even in a review that's as glowingly positive as this one.
@andrewweisbrod4506
@andrewweisbrod4506 4 күн бұрын
"It's like trying to wrestle an eel. An eel that hates you. Probably hates you because you're trying to wrestle it. Why are you trying to wrestle it? What's wrong with you?" ... "They're just questions, Leon... It's a test designed to provoke an emotional response."
@Sihoiba
@Sihoiba 5 күн бұрын
Excellent B-roll framing and on point editing as always. Definitely a game I need to see if my friends who enjoy this kind of game would be interested in.
@pinobluevogel6458
@pinobluevogel6458 2 күн бұрын
While I think the video came over well and how the game plays, looks and feels, I still think this might not be for me. This seems more like a tactical, strategic spacegame for people that like a large amount of randomness and the balancing act of spacing out your cards more than the gradual, effciency and planning we get from games like TI4. Now those games usually spiral out of control because they aren't really balanced incredibly well, but this also insures that all the politics can stabilize the situation and the game eventually ends within a reasonable time. This seems more like the YOLO version of a space 4-X, where you take a gamble more often than a carefully planned strategy. That is the exact opposite of what my gaming group prefers. Even in TI4, where there actually is a lot of gradual planning, the most feel bad moments are nearly always a horrible agenda card being revealed and voted through that totally wrecks 1 or 2 players completely, or a completely lobsided series of dicerolls that turns an almost unlosable combat in a disastrous loss. Maybe I shouldn't be comparing Arcs to TI4, which is a far grander, larger and (probably) lengthier game. But as the most prominent game we play that roughly fits in the same theme, it will still be the most logical competitor. The most important marker of a game I am going to like a lot, is that when watching a review, I immediately like it and my mind races as to how to play this game and getting really excited, maybe even getting to check out the rulebook if it is available. This just doesn't does that for me. The art doesn't entice me, the gameplay might be good, but it isn't convincing enough to pull me over. I'm willing to give it a try, but I think if we want a shorter spacegame, we will play Eclipse, or possible even Dune Imperium, as both games are excellent for their length and complexity and we barely have time to get those out enough anyway.
@rabidfurify
@rabidfurify 5 күн бұрын
Not a game I was expecting to want to play, but you make it sound intriguing. My best interpretation so far would be "Scythe meets Brian Boru, with dice". My main issue there is the "with dice" part...
@mdtrx
@mdtrx 6 күн бұрын
That intro and I'm like "Is this a bit?" :)
@cobalt2672
@cobalt2672 6 күн бұрын
I must admit I was very close to being put off when you described one of the key ingredients as being "trick taking", but thankfully it seems to only have a small amount of that DNA. I'm very intrigued by this one! I'll probably pick this up over TI as my first proper 'space game'.
@dejavu_d
@dejavu_d 5 күн бұрын
Action selection has trick-taking elements, instead of being a mechanism. That's one of the main points of discussion recently.
@tomp2449
@tomp2449 6 күн бұрын
I'm sold on this! Oath is my favorite game of all time, so this should fit nicely in my collection.
@FBracht
@FBracht 6 күн бұрын
Hooooooo boy, if Oath is your jam, wait until you learn about the Campaign in Arcs. It will explode your noggin
@ElTomTom87
@ElTomTom87 6 күн бұрын
I didn’t look too much into the campaign. I’m curious if it’s worth just starting by buying the base game.
@FBracht
@FBracht 6 күн бұрын
@@ElTomTom87 If you're unsure you'll like the game mechanics, such as the cardplay and all that, it is very much recommended to get only the base game. Especially if you're in a position to just walk into a game store and buy the campaign whenever you decide to.
@Gagneto
@Gagneto 6 күн бұрын
what? a leder games game with aggressive dice? is the sun still hot? I bet it is but the flavors man.... I wanna taste them now
@WesleyWomack
@WesleyWomack 6 күн бұрын
Played this game last week and really enjoyed it. I can't wait to play it a few more times now that I know how it works.
@fiftyfour2061
@fiftyfour2061 4 күн бұрын
A lot of this made me think of cosmic encounter with just a little more structure to hang things off.
@ivietheplant
@ivietheplant 6 күн бұрын
Classic Tom! Can't keep him from monopolizing and then subsequently drinking-all-of the fuel in the Reach! Boy loves his diesel!!!
@IronSalamander8
@IronSalamander8 6 күн бұрын
The 2 versions of Vast are still my favorite Leder games. I owned Root and Oath, kept Root for awhile, and Oath for a single game before selling them both. I had backed this but then pulled out as it was very uninspiring in its earlier stages of the campaign. Between your video here, and a local friend likely bringing it to a meetup, I'll have to give a try, and ascertain how well it works for us.
@Shazirah_Kaur
@Shazirah_Kaur 6 күн бұрын
Hey, as someone who is Vast curious but can't decide on which to grab: which do you like best?
@IronSalamander8
@IronSalamander8 6 күн бұрын
@@Shazirah_Kaur Mysterious Manor is easier to teach, and has been slightly more popular with the game group. I think it's easier to find as well. I do like Crystal Caverns as well, and prefer the cavern role over the manor role, but I do feel manor may be a better starting point.
@Tharukan
@Tharukan 6 күн бұрын
How important would you deem the language of the game? Trying to decide if I need this asap and preorder it in english or wait for the inevitable language release quite some time down the line. Me and my playgroup are quite capable in english but playing in your own language always is a bit more chill.
@Shazirah_Kaur
@Shazirah_Kaur 6 күн бұрын
Language is important to read Guild, Lore, Vox, Events, Leader, etc. cards. This is a game where you will sometimes need to reach over to read that's the text of the court cards, etc. (At least until you mesmerize all the powers and such.) And they are nuanced. Most of them are ways to break or bend rules of the game.
@FBracht
@FBracht 6 күн бұрын
For base game, you'll be 100% fine with English cards. There isn't a lot of cards, they don't have a lot of text on them, many of the effects are similar to each other, and, most importantly: there is no hidden information. Every single card will hit the table first, at which point it can be explained to the players. For the campaign, this is still all true… except that there is a lot more cards.
@andyn2854
@andyn2854 Күн бұрын
The fuel cartel is such a great Dune reference. Looks like a Maker and works like a Dune faction.
@ohno144
@ohno144 6 күн бұрын
I didn’t expect ‘technically difficult’ to make me laugh so much
@DandyGuy12
@DandyGuy12 6 күн бұрын
The VHS style Resourses and You bit was dope
@Kufunninapuh
@Kufunninapuh 6 күн бұрын
The first versions of the map was almost enough to scare me from backing the game. The final map on the other hand is absolutely gorgeous in my opinion and I can't wait for my Kickstarter copy to arrive!
@repenterepente5043
@repenterepente5043 Күн бұрын
Which sleeves do you use? They seem to be rough on the back and matte on the front. Are they the Docsmagic ones?
@ryanb6074
@ryanb6074 2 күн бұрын
Just some feedback, I feel like I just watched a how to play video instead of a review. And if the part 2 video is just as long I'd rather just watch a playthrough at that point. I get the excitement for the game, but I feel the video was way too detailed in explaining the game instead of actually reviewing pros and cons of it. Also, I'm surprised at saying this game is for everyone and not giving alternatives which I thought was a standard motto at SUSD (especially since this game takes a new spin on a standard genre). First review in a while that missed for me. Hopefully you can take any comments and PIVOT for the next video ;)
@mnm1273
@mnm1273 6 күн бұрын
BEST wow, that's the highest praise. I guess I'll need to try it out.
@nazokashii
@nazokashii 6 күн бұрын
Really does seem like a lot of fun :D thank you for the review
@ryanmassey3895
@ryanmassey3895 6 күн бұрын
Is the feel of this game something like Eclipse meets Inis?
@CopperLontra
@CopperLontra 6 күн бұрын
Tom your point about games feeling temporary or disposable couldn't be more will timed for me. 3 minute board game reviews recently spoke about this feeling and it struck me, now here you are repeating it. Even though the games we own physically last a lifetime or longer they seem to expire in our awareness. Buy the new thing, maybe play it twice, put it on the shelf for 3 years and then sell or trade. Novelty is more valued than mastery when consumerism runs the hobby. I'm hoping that Arcs can challenge that, at least in my group.
@Amras22520
@Amras22520 6 күн бұрын
Looks awesome ! I hope they plan to release a french version of the game !
@Poet8794
@Poet8794 6 күн бұрын
Looking forward to it ♥️ love you guys, stay true 🍻
@badhareday7509
@badhareday7509 5 күн бұрын
Darn, this looks soooo awesome! But I really hope I can figure out a way to play this solo...
@ericsmith9212
@ericsmith9212 6 күн бұрын
Seems like an intriguing game,but looks like a beast to teach.
@saluk7419
@saluk7419 6 күн бұрын
The campaign is a lot for sure, but if you start with only the base game, without any of the add-ons, it's remarkably straightforward. (Much easier to understand than Root for example)
@FBracht
@FBracht 6 күн бұрын
It is actually not! If you're teaching a new player, you won't be playing the campaign and you won't be including Leaders & Lore, so the teach is 90% just describing the 7 or 8 actions on the cards and the flow of the trick-taking card play (the whole Lead, Surpass, Copy, Pivot thing). It's actually their easiest game to teach so far! After people have played one game, introducing Leaders and Lore is literally a 5 minute teach. And after both of these nice onramps, teaching the campaign-specific stuff takes about as long as the base game teach - at most.
@marcuscallender6781
@marcuscallender6781 6 күн бұрын
Show us the tier list!
@nicolaspeters5980
@nicolaspeters5980 6 күн бұрын
Alright alright im sold. I'll try playing the game with my group lol
@Owesomasaurus
@Owesomasaurus 6 күн бұрын
Only played once but I could feel the vast depths of complexity lurking beneath the surface sucking me in. 10/10 would become obsessed again.
@Ovetupp
@Ovetupp 6 күн бұрын
There seems to be more el grande in this box than I anticipated
@pathannage5231
@pathannage5231 6 күн бұрын
Did I see some "the crew" cards at one point? Hilarious!
@h2_
@h2_ 5 күн бұрын
The US link for preorders doesnt work
@patrynize
@patrynize 6 күн бұрын
I own all but Oath from Leder and man...ARCS is by far their best. And I love love love Root, but this game is incredible.
@FBracht
@FBracht 6 күн бұрын
I own all Leder games (except Ahoy), AND I own both of Cole's non-Leder games, AND I have been loudly proclaiming for the past 3 or 4 years that Root is the best board game of all time, AND… I genuinely think Arcs is their best game yet.
@patrynize
@patrynize 6 күн бұрын
@@FBracht I can’t wait to get into campaign. I’ve done three two player games. With all lore and stuff. It’s just so good.
@FBracht
@FBracht 6 күн бұрын
@@patrynize I honestly have no idea which part of the game is better, if it's base or campaign. It's all so great, and for such different reasons. Base game scratches that Root itch for a competitive, cut-throat game you get really ecstatic when you win. Campaign game scratches an Oath itch that Oath itself failed to scratch.
@mrsteve4569
@mrsteve4569 4 күн бұрын
I enjoyed this review, and personally, I too love this game. For a Leder two player experience, we find Ahoy is quite good. We have not tried Root at two player with the hirelings…yet.
@OneBlueRhapsody
@OneBlueRhapsody 5 күн бұрын
What sleeves do you use for cards?
@juhanraud9086
@juhanraud9086 6 күн бұрын
Loved this! Can't wait for Part 2
@jefff.2052
@jefff.2052 19 сағат бұрын
The intro had me intrigued, and the card play looked very interesting, but the further the video went and added more and more...I think this is too much for my brain to deal with enjoyably.
@thomasyoung2824
@thomasyoung2824 4 күн бұрын
Just ordered from your review. I'm stoked to play it.
@galopus2707
@galopus2707 6 күн бұрын
Oh you can't do this to me
@SilentBob1219
@SilentBob1219 4 күн бұрын
Love this review and video. Well done. I haven’t been buying games in a while but this convinced me this game is worth it. Quick question, what sleeves are those that you are using ? Looks like a matte sleeve. Really trying to find a good set of sleeves that aren’t reflective. Thanks !
@adambroadish995
@adambroadish995 2 күн бұрын
I would recommend UltraPro Matte sleeves, standard poker size. Bit pricey but they nice!
@farrellmcgeoghan7453
@farrellmcgeoghan7453 6 күн бұрын
Tom, why have you stolen my favourite jacket? Give it back! Looking sharp though.
@damjancubrakovic5181
@damjancubrakovic5181 2 күн бұрын
The quality of these videos, the shots, animation and flow, it's 10/10, at least. You should be proud Tom!
@tonywoloszynek4021
@tonywoloszynek4021 3 күн бұрын
Yet another game I'd love to play that I know won't fit in my group
@analog_arnie
@analog_arnie 6 күн бұрын
And there was much rejoicing!
@ajtame
@ajtame 6 күн бұрын
Well thats arks being out of stock literally everywhere :D
@seanmcgowan4842
@seanmcgowan4842 Күн бұрын
Especially Nova
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