Considering GrapheneOS? Quick tour + useful settings

You might be hesitant to install GrapheneOS on your mobile device. This video is a tour of the OS right after installation. GrapheneOS comes with everything you need to get started!
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Intro - 00:00
Demo setup - 00:33
Apps App - 01:00
Auditor - 01:12
Calculator, Camera - 01:48
Clock, Contacts, Files - 02:04
Gallery, Messaging - 02:35
PDF Viewer, Phone - 03:00
Vanadium - 03:37
Useful Settings - 04:01
Turn off Wi-Fi automatically - 04:11
Bluetooth timeout - 04:33
Auto reboot - 05:00
Pin scrambling - 05:30
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#grapheneos #privacy #android

[@JohnSmith-ud9ex]

Perfect timing ! Just bought a Pixel 6a specifically for Graphene = )

[@fabio.brunori]

​@@Carahato I'll buy the 6a just because is smaller than the 6. And for a +1 year of support.

[@fabio.brunori]

@@Carahatogood to know about time support. I think switching to grapheneOS both pixel will lose compared with Google stock camera or Samsung Galaxy phones. It's the big flaw I've taken into account.

[@elrisitas8508]

@@Carahato Pixels always had very mid sensors but the software processing is so good that almost no phones can compete, maybe you are aware of this already but if you're not I recommend you reading on Marc Levoy, he's the engineer at Google who made this possible

[@fabio.brunori]

@@Carahato interesting... In which device you're using it?

[@sideofburritos]

Nice @user-nx5om6cn4c! The 6a is a great device, I really like the size compared to the 6.

[@Flashbrickanimations]

That pin scrambling is actuelly really usefull nice video

[@sideofburritos]

It is, it can take a few tries to get used to, but it's really useful.

[@loadingdotexeidk]

It is on motoos too

[@mpm165]

this is exactly what I was looking for. I wanted to see what this OS was going to be like before any customizations. Thank you!

[@cynehub1052]

I'm new to the subject of privacy and your channel is the second one I found after Rob Braxman Tech. Unlike Rob Braxman Tech you instantly gained my trust and made me feel worth my time, you're down to earth and humble, pragmatic and honest, concise and clear all while being extremely entertaining! I've just learned more than I could have hoped for about browsers, VPN, Graphene OS and I'm now eagerly awaiting new content especially on the Rasperry Pi / selfhosting side, thanks so much for the amazing work you do!!

[@sideofburritos]

Thank you very much for that kind comment! What you mentioned is how I've always tried to come across in my videos. I understood from the beginning that this format is the opposite of the videos that go “viral” or the sensationalized ones that are highly clickable. My main goal has been to make useful videos that meet the expectations set by the title and are worth people's time. I'm beyond glad to hear that I accomplished that with you!

[@altbinhax]

@@sideofburritos Doing a great job.

[@alexsmith6271]

Rob is 10 times more expert respectfully.

Rob is the GOAT

[@alone-vf4vy]

Rob Braxman FTW

[@jgn2112]

I've been running GrapheneOS since spring 2022, and I love it! And I still learn so much from your videos. Very helpful. Thank you!

[@sideofburritos]

I'm glad to hear that, you're very welcome!

[@orangetuono38]

Thanks Big Burrito. You have been my guide on my GrapheneOS journey. Great work and love your demeanor.

[@noneyerbusiness203]

been going through a lot of your vids. great work, highly appreciated!

[@sideofburritos]

Thank you!

[@snowmanboyatma]

You are very good at these informative videos. Thank you!

[@-someone-.]

I subbed. I love the way you give relevant info, concise and to the point. Thanks! 👍

[@sideofburritos]

Thanks for the sub! That's my goal with any video. You should get exactly what the title tells you without all the extra fluff.

[@pinoygal6232]

Great videos! I used your tutorial for installation and it went flawlessly. Thanks.

[@sideofburritos]

Thank you! I'm glad to hear that, welcome to GrapheneOS!

[@gaurav09]

Great Video Josh ! We need a part 2 as well and you could tell us more about your experience with it as a daily driver, including any downsides you felt of using this OS. Subscribed ! (from newpipe lol)

[@iTheGeo]

As always, thx & cheers mate!

[@sideofburritos]

You're welcome, cheers!

[@TheBoomshine]

Great video. It's awesome that you routinely circle back and introduce Graphene again for beginners, along with it's updates.

[@altbinhax]

Exactly, there's a lot to take on, and it's a continuing journey.

[@sideofburritos]

Thanks! Occasionally, I forget that even though I'm ~2 years in to using GrapheneOS, others are just getting started. An updated intro video every so often never hurts.

[@drjthornley]

My son had just installed GrapheneOS on his new Pixel 7A with success and it's very very pleased. Your videos are superb.

[@SchabMaster]

I really miss BlackBerry type lockscreen in modern devices in which you had to drag and drop mesh of randomly generated numbers so that the number of your choice was in the correct place on background photo. I find it quick to unlock and almost impossible to decode for a side viewer

[@Supernir]

Is there a video online showing this?

[@sparrowcide]

Great video!

[@sideofburritos]

Thanks!

[@yosefyahu4778]

Awesome video! I wanted to ask you: How do you screen cast your phone to your pc? And is it in real time? Thanks!

[@Chuck8541]

Cool. I'm looking to get a PIxel Fold, and putting GOS on it. I had a pixel 4 I was experimenting with, and dipping my toe into, but it's time to make one a daily driver...as much as I can.

[@piratedragon703]

Really enjoyed your videos Learning about and going through the GrapheneOS system. Thank you.

[@sideofburritos]

You are welcome! I have fun digging into specific features or new apps, so I'm glad to hear that it's useful.

[@piratedragon703]

@@sideofburritos yea its nice to follow some of the videos. Im comfortable, but I don't know it all. I do like OpenSource, and i feel like it should be the normal. A lot of folks don't really get it, and explaining to them it just goes in one ear and out the other. I enjoy my having more options aside from the GoogleOS and the iOS pretty much runs the shows. I enjoy the Different.

[@sideofburritos]

The audience I primarily target with my videos are those who are interested in privacy/security, but are new/hesitant. As well as those who have a baseline, but are looking for more. I don't see much of a point in trying to convince someone who doesn't have any interest. Even "in person" I don't typically talk about it unless someone asks me first. If you have to drag someone kicking and screaming, they're much less likely to stick with it if something doesn't go smoothly.

[@piratedragon703]

@@sideofburritos yea your absolutely right.. i dont really impose it, but I do mention a lot about not liking google. When someone mentions let me "Google it real quick" I cringe... But for sure need to work on not really mentioning it unless its brought up.

[@AustinSpringer]

nice. thanks for sharing

[@sideofburritos]

You're welcome!

[@fumast3rmasteroffu716]

Big thanks for demoing with DarkScreen so much easier to watch 🙂

[@sideofburritos]

You're welcome! No need to shock people with a bright screen if they're trying to watch at night :)

[@ozzlss]

Thank you!

[@sideofburritos]

You're welcome!

[@ItsPitts777]

I unfortunately had all of my Apple devices compromised last year. Hence now privacy is a must. This tutorial is greatly appreciated. I parted ways with Apple but still had concerns with Android and Google. I am a 👻 now. Thanks!

[@sideofburritos]

I'm sorry to hear that. Do you know how it happened? Did someone gain access to your Apple Account? You're welcome! Keep it up 👻, haha.

[@ItsPitts777]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnmTd2yoZdiciqs your welcome :) no chip is secure

[@introspeksjon7347]

I actually thought I was really careful regarding both my privacy and security. I'm deep into the Apple ecosystem with both iPhone, Macbook, Apple TV and Apple watch. I use several of their free and paid privacy/security services. I see that the P7a might release soon and I am highly considering making the change beginning with my phone, but I do have several questions. When I get the brand new P7a, can I immediately install GOS or do we have to wait for new compatible versions of GOS? If so, how long does it usually take for a compatible version? With iOS I use services which I would like to mimic on GOS. I use services like icloud+, apples built-in vpn in safari, hide my email and keychain combined, imessage and facetime (both e2e). Hide my email and keychain is something I just cant live without anymore.

[@FukaBGD]

Can you make a video about transfering whole system settings and profiles from one graphene pixel to another one? Thanks

[@taslimalimi]

Finally a full video of graphene os 😂😂😂 thanks sir

[@KyrychenkoAnton]

Regarding "PIN scrambling" - I wonder if there's a way to add 2fa to unlock the phone with hardware security key like yubikey? My issue that I have is that fingerprints (and biometric as a whole) can be faked, and entering 20 pin every time to unlock phone could be tedious, and also it can be spied on. So if you have one of those small keys with nfc, they can be weared on a wrist. So that after you enter your pin - you then put in on your wrist, and nfc in key unlocks the phone?

[@lincolnlincoln27]

will graphene Os work on unihertz titan pocket model? How/Where to go to determine?.... BTW: good video, THX

[@Vi-XiphiqiX]

Picked up a Pixel 7, using GrapheneOS and haven't looked back - Less Google in my Life.

[@hanarsaeed7234]

Hi dear thank you for your useful video please advise how to make google pay working on GrapheneOS or is there away to make the NFC payment works? thank you

[@peterkumo1153]

Hi Josh, I watched again your overview of the Graphene os. So I have a comment and a question. I have read the the OS guide I find that is not written for the lay person "difficult to understand" So my question. In you video you mentioned the "Files" app you use to transfer files to a usb. I have been trying to transfer my vids and pics to a stick or to my desktop for months. No luck. I have allowed usb to be acknowledge when unlocked. Still does not work Im sure I'm not the only one with this issue. If you could throw some instruction our way it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

[@Greenman1609]

Can you do a video on how to use two pixels to shield your phone from the cellular network?

[@lincolnlincoln27]

Also: will Lyft app work on Graphene Os?

[@rpavankumarjwtyhgsfsp1692]

What is the battery backup for pixel 6a ????

[@Teelsambal]

Is the camera app as good / normal as the original pixel android? Will it have different photo quality?

[@proto7688]

Is there an app to accept lighting payments and convert them to monero and back? Is there a monero version of lightning?

[@JohnCiaccio]

Love your videos. They convinced me I could lose Google on my phone. Only thing I can't find a solution for is family location apps. Hope you do a video on them. Can't find any not using Google services. I use Life 360 now on a seperat profile with Google Services. Would like to change it.

[@bokami3445]

Thanks for the overview. I'm considering switching my Pixel 6 over to GrapheneOS .

[@sideofburritos]

You're welcome!

[@fort6564]

great video, thanks a lot. I will probably be switching back to android once grapheneOS supports google pixel 8!

[@HisLoveArmy]

Hey since signal is moving away from sms I switched to the built in graphene app. Everything is green and the other day I texted someone and their contact image the circle switched from green to grey. Could this mean they also use graphene OS? It's only happened to this one contact out of like 30 others.

[@kingyuck.117]

How in the world do we add custom commands/scripts???

[@incrediblez394]

Good video.

[@sideofburritos]

Thanks!

[@Liberty4Ever]

I'm finally upgrading to GrapheneOS after a lot of bellyaching about the industry standard spying. Thanks for the great intro, preview and a couple of very useful security enhancing tips. I wanted to see the GrapheneOS user interface before taking my droid to Anchorhead to have its memory erased (installing GrapheneOS). It's a shame that just after this video was uploaded, Signal decided to no longer encrypt text messages. Any recommendation for a replacement encrypted text app?

[@handsomesquidward8240]

where did you find out signal doesnt encrypt messages anymore

[@Liberty4Ever]

@@handsomesquidward8240 - The Signal app has been warning for approximately the last month that Signal would no longer be providing SMS services. Presumably, the only way to use Signal will be encrypted, between Signal users. I liked having Signal as my default messaging app for encrypted messages when available and unencrypted messages for everyone else, but now I use the default GrapheneOS messaging app as my default for SMS and I still have signal which works as an encrypted messaging app... and secure calls even though I seldom use that awesome feature.

[@GuerreroUrbano100]

@@handsomesquidward8240 They stopped supporting SMS/MMS messaging and now it's only signal to signal messages. I'm not sure yet of another SMS/MMS app that encrypts so if anyone has any rec's please lmk.

[@maxmustermann7365]

Is it true that there is no Adaptive Charging on GrapheneOS? Therefore the battery should be on 100% over hours during sleep, which would decrease battery health quicker than necessary. Charging and unplugging before sleep is possible but inconvenient with 10% battery consumption per night on a Pixel

[@eliodonvito9252]

I didn’t understood the reboot feature, Will I lose all my data if I don’t unlock my phone until time selected ?

[@johneaglin7541]

QUESTIONS First, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge of GrapheneOS. Q1: Can you explain how to update Apps from the Aurora Store? Is there any way you get push notifications for apps when they are updated? Q2: How do GrapheneOS Security updates work and how often are they pushed out? Especially concerning Critical Exploits? Thank you once again!

[@motionoftheocean7524]

You're most welcome!

[@saptarshibiswas2179]

Does graphene support the compatibility of Pixel buds and Pixel watch?

[@chjdvn]

Need your video on the auditor app

[@sideofburritos]

As do I, haha.

[@nospamallowed4890]

1) There are some Android apps that I must use. Can tney be installed on Graphene or would they be incompatible? 2) At the beginning of the video there was a brief mention of installing Google services. Is it necessary for apps? Does it not open the floodgates to Google's massive data harvesting and selling? 3) How well does Graphene do in supporting older hardware and continued security patches? In the past the main reason for upgrading my phone has not been hardware failing, but rather security patches no longer bein available. The only exception was the Google Pixel series(pixel 3 is still good enough), but that means submitting to the data harvesting.

[@JoshuaDiamente]

I've just installed GrapheneOS but for some reason I cannot search for Apps on Aurora store. Searching for any apps returns no results. I've tried uninstalling aurora store, enabling 'Generate GSF ID locally on device' and even factory resetting the phone but I still cannot search. I know I can just download the APK or go through google but this doesn't seem to be a common issue. Do you have any idea how I can fix this? Thanks heaps!

[@reclee8333]

Can Graphene OS disable cellular connectivity so that your phone won't ping any cellular base station (even without SIM)? If not, are there apps which can do this?

[@le-ar]

so cash app, banking apps, google messages app, and basically every app just work? now as far as messages app is concerned, i want to use the new standard called RCS. so does the sms app you talked about also have rcs or is that only in google messages app? will i lose the ability to use rcs messaging switching to graphene?

[@sideofburritos]

The main apps that most people note that don't work are android auto, and google pay. Everything else *generally works*. I say generally, because I haven't tested every possible app. For RCS, you need to install Google messages and the sandboxed Google Play Services. Once you do that, you'll be able to enable RCS in the app.

[@thomasf.7940]

What do you think about running sandboxed google services on the main and only profile for someone who is very new to privacy and mainly want to barely feel the difference from a stock pixel 7 experience? As a family man i do not have the time to tinker as much as before and am looking for anything better than stock android privacy wise.

[@adityapathak5761]

I had sandboxed google play running on a separate profile on my Pixel 7 for a few months. Unfortunately it was way too inconvenient for my usecase so I have unified it all under a single profile. You still get substantial privacy and security improvements over Stock Android due to reasons like: Google Play Store and Services being in a sandboxed state (unlike privileged state in case of Stock Android), the Storgae Scopes option, Vanadium hardening. Other factors like Wifi and Bluetooth timeouts are also a bonus over Stock OS. TL;DR: Yes, GrapheneOS is absolutely worth it even with only a main profile even with sandboxed google services.

[@thomasf.7940]

@@adityapathak5761 thank you for your answer my friend. Any step towards privacy is better than none.

[@homie4235]

Yes it's worth it. Just be aware if you use Android auto that won't work in grapheneos, it's too ingrained with Android.

[@thomasf.7940]

@@homie4235 yep knew that! Thanks

[@Johnnyrebox]

While I don't daily use my pixel 4a, I use google services along play store. The reason why these services are a headache on normal android is their whole system access which is solved by sandboxed. I only give it internet access which is so nice and also it can't auto update which I also didn't like with normal android play services. Their sandboxed google services/play store is the REASON why I wanted to try GrapheneOS. Nice compromise that I'm OK with.

[@theprivacyfox]

I have some problems with an app it has some bugs since im using grapheneos but worked great on my samsung with android 13 and it doesnt need play services, what can be problem?

[@sideofburritos]

You can try toggling exploit compatibility mode - grapheneos.org/usage#bugs-uncovered-by-security-features

[@homie4235]

Does vanadium work with a yubikey? When I tried it I don't think it worked with one it's been awhile since I tried though. Thinking about going back to grapheneos, and forgetting about Android auto.

[@sideofburritos]

It does, if you have Google Play Services installed on the user profile (I just tested a login to make sure).

[@stephane184]

I’m on the fence. On an iPhone 12 Pro Max and looking at Pixel 7 on sale $300 off at BestBuy.

[@BobSmith-oo7ei]

Question. How would I transfer my contacts over to a new device with a fresh install of GrapheneOS?

[@apflewis]

On my old device, you can share (via bluetooth) and use that to send selected contacts to the new phone. It's a bit laborious, but works. It's an opportunity to prune the contact book too.

[@javcekPL]

How long does the battery of the Pixel 6a last? How high is the battery consumption in idle mode?

[@sideofburritos]

That's a tough question to answer as there's a ton of variables that go into it. How old is the device, what apps are installed, etc. For me, it lasts longer than I need, but less than I want. There are a few threads on discuss.grapheneos.org that talk about battery life. ex. discuss.grapheneos.org/?q=battery%20life

[@johncuvox]

Which system is better to use in Russia to ensure security and privacy from the current regime terror: Android OS or GrapheneOS? Handsome, please tell me and advise! Thanks a lot in advance.

[@jimmysmith-ru8nb]

where can buy OEM Unlocked Pixel Phone, ...Mall ?

[@sideofburritos]

Best Buy, Google Store, Swappa, eBay

[@notafbihoneypot8487]

Based burrito

[@sideofburritos]

🌯🥙

[@7swordmary567]

So Itza GO for downloading this OS w/Vanadium onto Chromebook❓

[@sideofburritos]

Here's a list of the supported devices - grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices But you can use a ChromeOS for the installation - grapheneos.org/install/web#prerequisites

[@mjkvl9193]

Hello,I have a cuestion.Can you install the Google software again if you installed graphene or you can't?

[@sideofburritos]

Hello, yes, you can. It's straightforward to do - grapheneos.org/features#sandboxed-google-play

[@mikebevan1034]

Are MMS group messages supported with GrapheneOS? Thinking about making the switch.

[@sideofburritos]

Yes, they are.

[@ThroughDarknessComesLight]

Is a pixel 5 good to use for graphene os since its not recommended but supported because future updates ?

[@sideofburritos]

I would steer clear of the 5 as it will be EOL October 2023. If your budget permits, look for a 6a. If you spend $100 on a 5 that will last for 6 months vs. a 6a you spend $400 that will last 3.5 years. The upfront cost is more, but the yearly cost on the 6a is lower than a 5. (I made the $ up just for this example).

[@TerminallyUnique95]

I'm having an issue after setting up a second user profile. The phone seems to take 3-5 extra seconds to load main profile and to close apps or use the home button.

[@sideofburritos]

Do you mean it takes an extra 3-5 seconds when switching from the second user profile to the main user profile? Is the increased time to close apps in both user profiles? I would try “end session” option by holding down the power button on the second use profile, and see if you still observe the behavior. Which device are you using?

[@TerminallyUnique95]

​@@sideofburritos I'm using Pixel 6a. Ended up just having to restart the phone. Then the delays went away.

[@ayyoitzToko]

stupid question but you wouldnt recommend Pulse SMS?

[@sideofburritos]

I've never heard of it before. It looks like a service all parties would need to sign up for to use, and they don't seem to have anywhere near the reputation something like Signal does. The interface also looks to try to copy the WhatsApp style. I personally would not recommend it just based off a first look.

[@Yates__]

You've got a wonderfully monotone voice.

[@ahoraparchis]

Hello and thanks for your work. I haven't found any information about it, but it seems that I can't grant root permissions to Grapheneos, is that correct? Doesn't accept Magisk?

[@sideofburritos]

Correct, you can read more details here as to why it's not supported - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/2275-will-gos-and-root-related-issues/7

[@ahoraparchis]

​@@sideofburritos Thank you so much!

[@elrisitas8508]

Being a Pixel 5 owner myself, I am wondering if Graphene will offer longer support on this device than Google. That would be biggest reason to make me switch personally.

[@adityapathak5761]

No, GrapheneOS explicitly offers support as long as device support code like firmware, kernel and vendor code is actively maintained (paraphrased from legacy devices section in FAQ). Offering longer support would have been ideal, but unfortunately compromises privacy/security due to lack of latest updates on hardware after EOL, which leaves the device vulnerable to firmware bugs which cannot be resolved by just an update to the OS and need vendor support

[@elrisitas8508]

@@adityapathak5761 help me understand, these 3 things, firmware, kernel and vendor code are all proprietary? So, even if the community wanted to support such devices they wouldn't be able to? Does that mean hardcore Graphene users change devices every X years?

[@sideofburritos]

@elrisitas8508 this thread has some details - nitter.net/GrapheneOS/status/1564713697976664065?s=20&t=WAJ3Yfi9yXvRKe4sgI0OzQ "Once a device is end-of-life, there are no longer firmware, driver and other device-specific patches available. Shipping latest AOSP updates does not provide the current patch level." Google coordinates with the 3rd party vendors who's hardware they use to provide updates. Newer devices are receiving security updates for 5 years now - support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=e. It's not that hardcore GrapheneOS users change devices every X years, it's that no one should use a device that is no longer receiving security updates. Once a device reaches EOL (regardless of the OS), it should no longer be used.

I hope someday something like "Graphene Phone" or something appears, with open-source hardware secure phone

[@0xavrc]

Can you please tell me that if there is any difference between camera quality of pixel 7 pro running graphene os and stock os

[@adityapathak5761]

I am on Pixel 7, and there is a substantial difference using Gcam. Portrait mode is the biggest missing feature in GrapheneOS camera, and Gcam is the best in business for that. You can still achieve privacy by installing Gcam (and Google Photos if you want to seamlessly view pictures from Gcam without switching to the Gallery) and denying network permission, this will ensure Google can't collect any data from these apps about you, and you don't have to login with your account either, while still being able to benefit from their features.

[@sideofburritos]

Just to add to what @adityapathak5761 said, there is a difference in features between the GrapheneOS camera and Gcam. You can install Gcam on GrapheneOS and have the same features as stock Android OS - grapheneos.org/usage#google-camera. I've tested it before, it works well.

[@0xavrc]

@@adityapathak5761 Thanks

[@0xavrc]

@@sideofburritos Thanks

[@scottbrewton2214]

I performed the install per your video. Install was smooth, but was not able to get it to make calls or text.

[@richcaseaxon]

I just did my 6A and simply put in my SIM card and magic happens. Assuming yours won't be as simple of a fix.

[@sideofburritos]

Hmm, that's odd. Are you using a physical SIM? Did you use the stock OS before installing GrapheneOS? Did that work for calls and texts? Does the cell service show as connected?

[@scottbrewton2214]

@@sideofburritos I updated the phone via wifi and then went through the install. Perfect at that point. When I put the physical sim in, it shows the network, but says it is temporary unavailable. I bought the 7 pro specifically for this operating system. Wish I could find local help, but that is hard as most people using the OS don't want to be found.

[@sideofburritos]

@@scottbrewton2214 This page has some good troubleshooting information, I would start there and see if that helps - grapheneos.org/usage#carrier-functionality

[@johnjr48]

I am having my pixel3 repaired. I know I would not get security update via the OEM any longer and I know GrapheneOS has put the Pixel3 at EOL. Is it still a viable alternative to install on the Pixel3?

[@notafbihoneypot8487]

From a security position. No. Not at all. And honestly bad security practice can lead to bad privacy. The 6A is probably the most affordable one.

[@sideofburritos]

Exactly what @notafbihoneypot8487 said. As it's no longer receiving security updates, it's no longer safe to use and I would not recommend using it.

[@smurf_nfo2030]

Is Graphene OS affected by the latest security flaws found with the Pixel phones?

[@sideofburritos]

It's patched if you have the latest GrapheneOS version on a supported device - there are more details on this post - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/3942-baseband-vulnerabilities/5

[@Alex-ye9pg]

Fantastic video! How do things like 'Signal' work if everyone else you know doesn't use GOS and is in WhatsApp groups? Are uou out of luck?

[@sideofburritos]

Thanks! I've been able to get most of my frequently contacted friends/family over to Signal. The other's who don't want another chat app like Signal, I use SMS.

[@TheDevarshiShah]

How GrapheneOS handles OS updates? Once Google/AOSP releases new securityand/or OS update, does it becomes available on the very same day? or GrapheneOS team does some modifications to the updates as well? Also, does the number of years of Security and OS updates still depend on device, or GrapheneOS? For example, 6A will get guaranteed Android version updates until at least July 2025, and security updates until at July 2027. So does that mean GrapheneOS will also stop supporting 6A after the end of supported version by Google?

[@mrcvry]

Updates are coming very frequently and they deliver the Androids fast. Live time is the same as Android because of the security updates.

[@TheDevarshiShah]

@@mrcvry so is it that OS upgrade are handled by Graphene and security ones are by Google itself as device manufacturer?

[@elrisitas8508]

I'm curious too

[@mrcvry]

No. The Graphene developers are taking the OS updates and integrate it into GrapheneOS. That is send to the phones. You always update the OS from Graphene.

[@sideofburritos]

This explains how the updates work and how they're tested/released by the GrapheneOS team - grapheneos.org/releases#about-the-releases. Updates/Upgrades are tested and released very quickly by the GrapheneOS team as they become available. As far as support goes, GrapheneOS supports a device up until it's End Of Life (EOL) which is when the security updates end. At this point, the device is no longer safe to use. The last post on this thread has some more details - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/739-security-updates-after-eol as well as this thread - nitter.net/GrapheneOS/status/1622560789931458561

[@TerminallyUnique95]

Anyone know if Grapheneos on Pixel 6a will work with Metro by Tmobile? I know it's oddly specific question but I'm new to custom ROMs and definetly think degoogling and open source is the way forward.

[@sideofburritos]

It should work. If it works on the stock OS, you shouldn't have any issue (grapheneos.org/usage#carrier-functionality). I have friends that use Mobile on GrapheneOS.

[@TerminallyUnique95]

@@sideofburritos Does it matter if I switch over phone with carrier before or after installing GrapheneOs

[@sideofburritos]

@@TerminallyUnique95 Nope! I've used my SIM card on various OS's, different devices, all without issue.

[@Flashbrickanimations]

That thumbnail looks really cool

[@sideofburritos]

Thanks! After watching a few of your videos, I started getting recommendations for Lego channels. I hate designing thumbnails, but sadly, they're one of the most important things. I figured I would start adding Lego's to make it a bit more fun for me.

[@Flashbrickanimations]

@@sideofburritos yea u can a lot of things with lego

[@Lorem_the_Ipsum]

Is there a graphene compatible phone with a micro sd card slot? If not its basically useless

[@sideofburritos]

The currently supported phones don't have a micro sd card slot - grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices

[@kabinbunch9274]

Mr. Side of Burritos, I have long had an underlying wonder about what is the most privacy oriented bank? Crazy statement I understand. But my current bank has changes coming in their policy will not put up with so it’s time for me to do some research for another. I was wondering if you or anyone else thinks about this? And if anyone has insight, I’m all ears. Thanks!

[@sideofburritos]

I don't know which country you're in, but I don't expect any privacy with my bank in the US. When it comes to $ and the IRS, I just assume everything is known. Perhaps someone else may know better places, but if you're looking for privacy, check out prepaid cards, cash, or Monero.

[@kabinbunch9274]

@@sideofburritos USA for me, and I agree but my current bank plans on using merchant codes to send to the government any of what the bank thinks “concerning” items purchased with their card. Unfortunately I may be drawing a lot of cash in the future 😂

[@sideofburritos]

@@kabinbunch9274 Hmm, now that is an interesting one. Did you read the privacy policy in depth to find that, or did they send something obvious indicating it? If you are comfortable sharing, could you please let me know which bank you're using? You can send it to my email on this page instead of posting it in a public comment - sideofburritos.com/contact/

[@gauravbhalerao7420]

Man that wallpaper is just 🤌

[@Gixxes010]

Only thing that is keeping me from installing Graphene OS is android auto, which I use almost daily and Google Pay.

[@sideofburritos]

Yea, I really wish that worked, since my vehicle supports it. I've tried a few random Android Auto devices off Amazon out of curiosity. I didn't think they would work, and they didn't. You essentially would need a standalone unit (basically another phone) that you would wirelessly tether to your GrapheneOS phone for internet access, but I haven't missed it enough to try that.

[@pinoygal6232]

Every time I turn on my phone I get this prompt: "Sandboxed google play is running" Am I supposed to turn this off when not downloading from play store? Anyone who has a quick answer to this... Thanks

[@mrcvry]

Just a notification if you have the google framework installed. I think you can disable the notification.

[@richcaseaxon]

I get the same, I just let it go. It would be nice to figure out how to disable it as per mrcvry suggestion. Will search that.

[@adityapathak5761]

@@richcaseaxon you can long press on the notification in the profile it appears to go into the settings of that notification prompt and disable it

[@mrcvry]

@@richcaseaxon I was to lazy to test it but just did it. Just press long on the notification and there is an option to deactivate different notifications for GSM.

[@sideofburritos]

Exactly what @mrcvry said in the last message. You can just long press it and hide it. The last post on this thread has some technical details as to why it's there in the first place - discuss.grapheneos.org/d/1523-gmscompat-as-a-persistent-notification

[@doug-zilla]

Why not LineageOS?

[@ImARealHumanPerson]

They aren't even comparable. You have to leave your bootloader unlocked with LineageOS 😅

[@CaptainRon1913]

So GCAM works good on Graphene? Looking to buy the 7 pro, getting tired of Samsung's bs.

[@Flashbrickanimations]

Yes it will work

[@sideofburritos]

Yes, it does - grapheneos.org/usage#google-camera

[@emanonmuc7762]

Great, thank you. Want to do that on Pixel 7a.

[@sideofburritos]

Nice! The "a" devices are always solid. I really like the 7, so I imagine the 7a will be great.

[@Mojo_DK]

It's such a shame that you can use it only on Pixel devices. I am using a Nothing Phone(1) rn and I don't want to buy a new phone. It seems like there isn't even an office release of LineageOS or something similar. From what I can tell the Nothing Phone(1) comes with an unlockable bootloader and a lot of transparency....so I really don't understand why there is no good privacy focused OS for this awesome Phone yet. Or am I missing something? Is there a good alternative? Or what should I do to improve my current situation...well besides standard like using the Aurora Store etc.?

[@stargalacticfederation]

How to Block a Phone Number on GrapheneOS

[@Michael-it6gb]

Sadly I had to buy GOOGLE'S Pixel 7a just to install GrapheneOS on it. Because they only support Pixel phones(all that OEM unlocking nonsense). Hopefully Graphene is going to be available on other phone brands in the future(Samsung, Sony, Motorola, etc.), the transition shouldn't be too hard for them - A budget and a mid-high level smartphone would be enough.

[@davenotstaine5646]

Thank you Shia LeBouf

[@sideofburritos]

"I'm not a strikingly handsome guy, but I'm in movies."

[@salapolivalenta77]

Signal is not secure! Build your own xmpp server like ejabbed or Matrix! I have both :D These 2 solutions are brilliant but is not handy for everybody. Use Session instead Signal!

[@sideofburritos]

If you can provide some sources regarding your claims, I would be happy to reply. It's a lot of effort to respond to claims that don't have any technical details with sources saying X isn't secure and use Y instead.

[@salapolivalenta77]

@@sideofburritos Hello, maybe I was too rough but the idea is simple: it is also based on your contacts (very bad idea) and honestly even with the end to end famous secure algorithm behind, maybe the server owners might decrypt your keys if the really want to, who knows. There are some tutorials how to deploy your own signal server but are old which let me understand that is not available anymore, so not so open anymore... Ok, compared with whatsapp and telegram is better but I would avoid it because a better solution is to have your own server (on prem) like I said, either matrix or ejabberd like I have (both closed, no federation). I have mentioned Session, well seems like is more secure since the traffic is passed over the loki network among so many protected nodes (at least Rob Braxman said that). if you can't deploy a personal server, I personally would go with session instead. I will change my thoughts about signal only when a clear procedure to deploy a server will become available. This is just a general opinion, nothing more. Maybe I am wrong, this is what I know based on my experience. And yes, sorry for my initial comment, it was too rough. Thank you.

[@punitsinghania]

Graphene OS seems like a lot of effort for nothing. I can get the same effect and experience on my pixel 6 simply by making small changes in settings and using only Google apps. My phone is pretty clean and low key.

[@ImARealHumanPerson]

Your ignorance is impressive lmao.

[@n3mm13]

Is this the most anti-government/anti-big brother OS to Android???

[@sideofburritos]

I think it's the best OS you can choose for an Android device. It has a lot of great features built in - grapheneos.org/features

[@JEMODZ]

Man acts like the FBI is out to get him or something lmao

[@sideofburritos]

🤣 just staying prepared Like 2Chainz said, "Feds Watching". edit: added joke in an attempt to be funny

[@AbdAlRahman_8]

I think it is a big trap. "Privacy oriented OS". It makes easy for system to determine "who needs to be private". Coz it isn't easy to sort huuuggee amount information. There is many ways to avoid to be "shown up". Also somehow it works only with google phones.

[@jishnu9551]

Bruh stop being paranoid . This is just a privacy oriented custom rom and as a person who's installed various custom roms this one is better cause pixel phone allows you to relock bootloader without stock os , which if you do on other brands would likely brick your phone .

[@reevesjustin]

Not anymore. Developer seems off their rocker.

[@CollectiveConsciousness1111]

👍Love more on graphineOS. Naomi Brockwell NBTV channel Tech Journalist teaches phone privacy and security