Sierra Burgess is a Loser is a pretty dumb movie...

[@Mar-lx2xy]

Honestly, I would actually enjoy it if the movie was about Veronica, her backstory is interesting “ Queen b turns into a lovely person”

[@snekz341]

Ifkr

[@cassandre7771]

Yassss I am the 1000th like😁

[@conbiniii]

Literally the plot of Clueless

[@foxychu498]

Yeah, let’s give this idea to Netflix tho

[@Xehanort10]

Whereas Sierra's story was "Bad person gets even worse but uses being fat to play the victim."

[@dr.salty.m.d.7021]

This is basically “ it’s not sexual assault when women do it”: the movie That scene always hurts my soul

[@adeleaslan8182]

Jeez true

[@tiaammar925]

Yess I'm a girl and I agree completely! What she did was sex assault! SMH 🤦‍♂️

[@whichcache2517]

Wait, I forget, what was the sexual assault? I must not've been paying attention.

[@risjones]

100% agree, cringe worthy in all the worst ways.

[@whichcache2517]

@pJ So I don't want to sound rude or ignorant, but that sounds more like catfishing than sexual assault.

[@littlemsterious991]

"No one wants to hang out with a sociopath" *_Could you say it again for the people in the back?_*

[@gengargamer5657]

I mean Spongebob still hung out w/ Patrick in the middle seasons despite Patrick's socipathic tendencies.

[@catzie_78]

SOCIOPATH BURGESS VERONICA DESERVES BETTER

[@chadpowell1832]

"NO ONE WANTS TO HANG OUT WITH A PSYCHOPATH"

[@kobrakid666]

ah shit, that explains a looot

[@CC-cl3bb]

He said that the second I read this comment 💀

[@nosirrah.]

*So are we just not going to talk about how she was being a terrible friend to her one and only best friend by switching up on him by ditching him and treating him like he is invisible?*

[@m00n14y]

And then doesn’t actually apologize and makes him forgive her and be her friend again

[@jessicaarmyforever7781]

EXO-L!!!!!!!! I love EXO-L and EXO SOOOOOO much!!💜

[@riley-mb3tm]

but all is forgiven because she’s the main character

[@oddpoppetesq.3467]

Terrible friend to one of her 'only' friends, by SWITCHING? up on him, ditching him and treating him like a pariah? That about sum your comment up? If so, That makes no sense to me..... Ive never watched this film personally, My daughter reccomended Alexs channel and I stayed for the animations 🤣

[@katiebeaird4528]

This movie could have ended in 20 minutes with a simple "who dis"

[@dr.aditirana204]

In 5 minutes*

[@simsim-lj6vo]

*2 minutes*

[@jakemiskelly8886]

@@simsim-lj6vo 60 seconds

[@dominikabalazs9139]

26 seconds. like all phone calls with dad

[@katherinenguyen4443]

“New phone who dis”

[@venusroute]

The victim in the whole story is Jamie, not Sierra

[@imaunicorninhufflepuff112]

Actually it's the boy he got sexualy assaulted

[@leticiagomez8594]

@@imaunicorninhufflepuff112 jaime is the boy...

[@imaunicorninhufflepuff112]

@@leticiagomez8594 sorry wrong name

[@imaunicorninhufflepuff112]

@@leticiagomez8594 I haven't watched it in ages so I forgot the names

[@foxychu498]

Cris Prior I think that actually the victims are Jamie and Veronica

[@reddragon0624]

Why do so many of these “romantic” movies paint toxic traits as desirable and cute?

[@gavinwalton255]

Yeah its really strange and Low key disturbing

[@ClockworkChandelure]

For a bunch of very simple reasons. When it comes to men, there are a couple common tropes found especially in romantic and/or erotic fiction, which are the "bad guy gets redeemed by love" and the "dominant, wild, possessive man". These tropes are beloved by many readers, perhaps also because strong men are usually portayed as attractive in our society, and if done right can be good, for example in a properly written erotica story, or a story with an emotionally damaged male love interest who actually undergoes a proper character development and heel face turn. The issue is, many, many writers are not actually good at what they do. This means that many of them, when writing romantic or erotic novels with these tropes, only explored them in a very shallow way, cue results like Twilight (mind, I actually like Meyer's writing style in The Host, and I think she is a lovely person irl, so I think that Twilight was most likely the result of an amateur writing a book about the things her strict education didn't allow her to live) or, even worse, 50 Shades. These books, shows or whatever enforce a new version of the tropes I mentioned at the beginning, to the point where the figure of the dominating man turns into an abusive one, while still being painted as hot and desirable. Now, it wouldn't be bad if it was niche literature. Kinks are fine, and if your thing is reading rape fiction then more power to you. But when it stops being treated as literature for a niche market that is interested in abusive/toxic dynamics and is instead seen as mainstream, then there's a problem. It's also marginally caused by society, but again; most of these writers are women, so I think my analysis is not too far from the truth. As for women, I think the issue is half to be found in tropes and half in society. The tropes that come into play, again, are the usual, and became mostly famous because of japanese fiction: tsundere, yandere etc, these character archetypes are usually violent women being painted as "quirky" and desirable. However, this time the social conditioning is stronger; in fact, while there is a (relatively) new appreciation for strong female characters in mainstream media, there is also a holyfication of sorts in act, where female characters are assumed to be always in the right. Not only that, double standards come into play with things like harassment and even rape, where male victims usually get portrayed in a comedic way, or are even painted as the ones in the wrong for not accepting the offender's avances. Last but not least, I feel like a "loser culture" of sorts has been created. It's important to teach kids about bullying, but many movies and books actually present situations that are 1, just plain unrealistic, 2, blown out of proportion or 3, the main character's own fault. This enforces the idea that if the main character is portrayed as a "loser" then they are never responsible for their situation, and that any action of theirs can be excused. Sorry for the long ass reply, lol.

[@namis6925]

Sara Bazzone you explained it very well all I would’ve said was “Yeah remember Twilight and fanfics? That’s it that’s the whole reason”

[@shannenlibres2365]

my theory is most people who fantasize a lot about love seem to be the most likely to make movies about love and people who most often fantasize about love have anxious ambivalent attatchment, who base their entire lives around love. this video explains how they are better than I can kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4GQn4OAl7maitU these are the "nice guys"

[@harathea7554]

Red Dragon WATTPAD

[@omgthisissoawesome]

And you didn't even mention how she fakes being deaf with Jamey who actually has a deaf brother

[@anonymousraven1371]

omgthisissoawesome I know that is so wrong

[@kearradior6881]

That is so messed up

[@miaow0706]

Right! That was so messed up!

[@muymuy5005]

Why is it so bad, I think it's the only mildly funny part

[@juuberries]

@@muymuy5005 she's faking a disability. that, in itself, is wrong no matter how you look at it in any angle.

[@lulupell6959]

The victim was Veronica and Jamie not Sierra, Sierra is a brat

[@j.r.r5863]

Alyina Case Because those two didn’t do anything wrong compared to everything the Sierra kid did.

[@izai5270]

@Alyina Case Veronica and Jamie were being used. Yes, Sierra and Veronica had a deal, but that deal led to something that could cause potential toxicness and a relationship between Veronica and Jamie. Jamie practically got catfished and Sierra finds it rude of Veronica to have feeling for him even when she was the one going on dates and fooling around with his feelings.

[@leahunfeigned5955]

Veronica was mean.

[@izai5270]

@@leahunfeigned5955 She was still manipulated and used. ◑﹏◐

[@sailorcandy6633]

My Taste In Music So? She was a bully. She went through redemption, sure, but she shouldn’t be called a victim

[@Dizney]

honestly the movie would have been waaaay better if it had just an extra 10 minutes. Sierra apologizes to Veronica. They realize each other's growth throughout their friendship. eventually jamey shows up and bla bla you know the rest. like honestly, only Veronica had a major character arc in this movie and she quickly became the one I rooted for.

[@nepenthe_1610]

Dizney exactly. It had a lot of potential. It started out so great. But it was super super rushed at the end with no moral whatsoever. Also the ends weren't tied up.

[@ellefitzherbert7533]

Agree with both of these comments completely. After the ending, I thought "That's it?! What?! There should be more!"

[@Ro.Gue.Ish.]

Dizney i agree

[@noyonika2245]

Nah, the fact still remains that catfishing is illegal & totally not cute.

[@theholiestfugly]

Noyonika WHO CARES. It's a movie. Relax.

[@aliciakim3074]

Noah Centineo is one of the examples of people who plays the same character in almost every movie

[@flash-lp3rc]

Alicia Kim That’s cause that’s the only time of role he can play 💀

[@ghost_vibez5730]

My friend told me because so many people like Noah and have a celeb crush on him and such. So Netflix will cast an actor that a lot of people like and such so a lot of people will watch their movie or show

[@ikweetgeennaam8839]

Keir Gilchrist does the same thing. He has played so many psychopaths and weirdos.

[@Salty_Oatmeal25]

He’s in every “romance” movie on Netflix

[@isamaraburto3984]

I mean he played a major douche canoe in the shit show movie called swiped?

[@josheydubs]

I'm concinced Noah Centineo is owned bt Netflix and is tequired to play any romcom love interest at this point.

[@cugu7562]

Whatever pays the bills

[@Xehanort10]

He's probably a robot they built.

[@miaow0706]

The only role I think he played well was Peter in To All The Boys. He played Peter really well simply because I think Peter's personality a character similar his own personality

[@estheradeyele8796]

@@miaow0706 Jesus in the fosters was played pretty nicely by Noah Centineo

[@zant41]

The "mean" girl is actually nicer than the "good girl" wtf

[@futur3109]

They accidentally made her have an amazing character arc

[@leahunfeigned5955]

Not really but ok.

[@leahunfeigned5955]

@@itsneverlupus5544 Veronica was a damn bully lmbo. She tormented Sierra constantly. Just by chance they became friends and Sierra did a bad thing and was forgiven. Having an "image" does not excuse bullying. I like how when it comes to overweight people its okay for them to be treated like shite to some.

[@itsneverlupus5544]

@@leahunfeigned5955 she started as a bully and became a good human. Story arc. Sierra started as the fat girl who got bullied, became a sexual assaulter, then ruined the life of a girl helping her. I didn't say Veronica should bully because of the image doofus. I meant Sierra ruined her image infront of 20 thousand people. That's a huge thing. Sierra cant appreciate the damage she did because she doesn't have that image to maintain

[@leahunfeigned5955]

@@itsneverlupus5544 The whole movie is based on Cyrano de Bergerac and is about flaws and learning to accept and love yourself. All the characters had to learn that. Sierra made a few mistakes and was forgiven, just like Veronica bullied her for years and was forgiven. They both were imperfect people dealing with baggage and emotional issues. If you can't get that, well, that is unfortunate. Neither one was innocent so stop acting like Veronica gets a pass because of "growth."

[@ninimazi459]

I wish this was about Veronica, her life seems interesting.

[@aidenscholz5139]

Me too

[@fox6919]

🤢

[@andyouare3728]

@S’aint Subliminals Yesssssssssssssssssssss

[@terzinjo024]

It kinda is but Netflix thought that this title will get more views

[@brooke44933]

It’s honestly like the KZbin said Netflix thought they could bring in big bucks because Sierra is slightly bigger than normal and had a “hard life” but Veronica was such a victim she was used for s*x and seen as stupid was used as a catfish and humiliated for no good reason.

[@andreszulainoo]

This movie was so cringey. Honestly, the end of the movie shouldn’t have been her getting Jamey but just her making it up to and apologizing to Veronica because like you said Sierra suffered no consequences.

[@Daaaanielle]

I cringed the whole entire run time of this. And she did not deserve the ending she got. At all. The most shocking thing about the movie was that I ended up rooting for the mean girl about half way through the screaming twins thing.

[@anushka5690]

I actually really liked Veronica's character development. I'd rather see the story from her point of view lol

[@chadpowell1832]

Yeah she was way better for a protagonist role

[@Blue.1889]

@Sir Remy they wont lol because they could get backlash from people for bullying sierra (she looks like an average person so some pubications could call it fat shaming and things like that). Ik youre kidding but that really would happen :p

[@retrospective9386]

@@Blue.1889 yah I get it, people complain how the character doesn't get character development but they complain how the character fat shames and don't pay attention to the character development

[@danielhart7435]

@@Blue.1889 That’ll actually make it more interesting

[@chizi7097]

2k like

[@jasonderulo2207]

Catfishes guy for weeks, Kisses him without consent, Fakes disability, Hacks somebody's social media, Cyber bullies friend and ignores other friend throughout movie. *yOU aRE eXACTLY mY tYPE*

[@khushisrivastav7016]

But she wrote a song ;)

[@maxine9263]

it’s fine because she’s insecure

[@pinoybalut1556]

She's a terrible human being

[@lovelycloudyskies]

She faked a DISABILITY?! Which one??

[@maxine9263]

@@lovelycloudyskies being deaf

[@Laramaria2]

This movie should be called "Veronica is a better person than you think" or "Sierra has psychological issues" 😂

[@GhostlyNerve]

I almost spat out milk after reading the second one. 😂

[@peterd9624]

No lol. Veronica went along with the catfishing. Any normal person would consider that fucked up. Veronica also allowed the sexual assault to happen

[@peterd9624]

@Kermit Da Frog Oof it cant be a joke because the underlying premise is false

[@Nicamon]

Or"(Big title)CATFISH(Little subtitle)But it's done by a girl,so it's all right".

[@jaidenw.5013]

faxxx

[@wowieitssam9457]

Say it with me kids: *Insecurities are not an excuse to do something morally wrong, and then play the victim.* One more time for the people in the back! *Insecurities. Are. Not. An. Excuse. To. Do. Something. Morally. Wrong. And. Then. Play. The. Victim.*

[@leenashraf8212]

Sam LOTR-HP preach👏🏾👏🏾🙏🏽

[@lauraveapi3840]

So true - but kids think they have no choice, as in, they see adults do it in real life. I mean look at Merghan Markle for instance - a malignant narcissistic sociopath, playing the victim non stop (even though she gets EVERYTHING laid at her feet) - she even pretended to cry next to rape victims - and there are STILL some people left supporting her 😨🤢🤮

[@paulankolo6348]

thank 👏 you 👏

[@imtihanatq]

@@lauraveapi3840 I saw her movie with something not inspirational

[@dezsays1752]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!! I don’t like that’s she’s portrayed this way as a heavy girl. Insecure girls don’t always act like this, but I’ve seen it! And I’m sorry but I don’t have any remorse for people like that.

[@Mel-jl1bs]

"hi" "hello" "is this Veronica?" "uh no" "are you sure? you gave me your number" "this is not Veronica" "ok" the end

[@uphilldew]

only good girl did that

[@ephraima3328]

*Roll credits.........

[@dahyun1036]

HAHA i wish lol

[@strahinjagov]

What a normal person would do ☝️

[@eh-59]

We don't do that here

[@cheesecakelasagna]

This guy is really making the most out of his Netflix bills.

[@rdzr1kinpin]

CheesecakeLasagna jajajajjjja for real

[@nikitadelange4874]

😂😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏👏👏That's the most honest thing I've heard all day 👌🙌❤️

[@morganthefork193]

wheres eddy

[@aaaah540]

He probably makes more money from Netflix than Netflix does from him.

[@sunflower_kissed8953]

This is the wrong number THATS ALL IT TOOK

[@lethumthiyane5245]

Sunflower_ Kissed89 The truth

[@jadeokedare4791]

Yassssss

[@linamalina9119]

Girls imagine a guy telling you: "you're not exactly everyone's type but you're my type" or in other words "you're really not attractive to anyone else but to me you're OK".... Yipi?!

[@fantasiazplatkami]

yess,,,,sounded a little gross

[@ash2694]

That's just plain wrong.

[@shegolily]

They think it's romantic like, wtf bro no.

[@charmaineespeut4627]

She deserved that she was gross

[@Xehanort10]

Whether you're a girl being told that by a guy or a guy being told it by a girl that's gonna do a number on your self esteem. Since they're saying they're just settling for you or you're sloppy seconds.

[@unknownkiddo5554]

*"Sierra the sociopath: Movie"*

[@duckie4655]

Why is Noah in almost every.single. NETFLIX MOVIE/SERIES

[@ghost_vibez5730]

My friend told me because so many people like Noah and have a celeb crush on him and such. So Netflix will cast an actor that a lot of people like and such so a lot of people will watch their movie or show

[@mason3461]

Maddie I’m not even a fan of him, but even I can admit that he’s really cute

[@bellab6794]

Maddie and the way he talks makes it seem like his breath smells... if you get what I mean

[@stiffnoodle7479]

noah went 0 / \(neck)

[@elviramorales13]

Maddie true,plus he kinda looks like the thumb guys from spy kids 🤭

[@baconyeolie]

Plot summary: girl who does not conform to the typical standard of beauty does horrible things to her friends but justifies her wrongdoings with her insecurities

[@datshookethqueen9706]

Bacon yea I hated the plot it kinda seems like their portraying girls who don’t conform the typical standards of beauty seem like they are some kind of weird psychopath

[@cee2607]

Literally tho

[@kittymccaffery]

Liberal thinking.

[@oooh19]

@@datshookethqueen9706 yea but its generally the pretty popular girls who are portrayed as mean psychos so just because someone is good looking doesn't mean he or she is a jerk

[@oooh19]

kinda like gaston in beauty and the beast hes the villain because hes a good looking, conceited man

[@bipideebopideeboo8910]

I was more emotionally invested/interested in the relationship between the girls, than I was with Sierra and Jamey. I don't know. By the time Sierra and Jamey meet and get together, it wasn't really romantic. It was weird. Just my opinion though.

[@leaveswillgrowback]

yeah and idk i feel like Sierra and Jamey dont have chemistry ...?

[@maxmolasses1314]

Bipidee Bopidee Boo Towards the end, I actually started shipping the girls 😕

[@matt7388]

YESSSSSSSS ME

[@kellympenza4725]

Same

[@mlpbff24]

Bipidee Bopidee Boo SAME OH MY GOODNESS

[@brooke4608]

At first Sierra was a badass smart girl and I quite liked her character. Andddd then she turned into a jerk.

[@sofia_rms]

Same, the beginning of the movie is good but the rest is such a mess

[@catzie_78]

JeRkk

[@brooke4608]

Catzie_ what else did you want me to say, “bitch”? I just didn’t wanna corrupt the children reading my comment lmaooo

[@catzie_78]

@@brooke4608 lmao i wasnt mocking u i was spreading word that she is a jerk. A huge jerk.

[@brooke4608]

Catzie_ oh sorry lmao 😂

[@patiotaiza]

I keep wondering how the kissing scene went from the writers to the producers to the director to the actors and no one mentioned something like "HEY THIS IS ASSAULT, let's maybe not do it"

[@ChaoticMushy]

probably because it's a girl doing it and I can guarantee the writers, producers, directors and actors are left wings or just didn't care at that point

[@Xehanort10]

Given Sierra playing the victim and whining that people only hated her because she was fat the writers were probably convinced she was entitled to a relationship because of that even though she wasn't.

[@bs4e]

The uproar if it was a guy doing this. Im so sick of these double standards. It's actually just hurting our men.

[@bs4e]

@du lügner this is such an incredibly misguided comment that prevents men from reporting abuse/assault. Disgusting comment.

[@bs4e]

@du lügner see: how a man let himself get assaulted. Seriously? That's adding to the problem. He didn't let himself get assaulted. For years women have been told they let themselves get assaulted by putting themselves in bad situations. Today, we know that's called victim blaming. Let's not let another few hundreds years go by before we realize the same should be extended to men. We should let men know right now, they are not to blame when they are the victim. Again, your comments are so misguided and gross.

[@stefaniaogun9268]

Who really loved veronica and didnt really like sierra

[@faith9196]

Yup

[@TheDarkNeos]

Me. I thought Veronica was a good character but I hate Sierra. They should've removed her from the movie.

[@stapleyourfacebackon]

me

[@michelleuzo3843]

Stefania Ogun meeeeeee!!!!!

[@hoonxzi]

Stefania Ogun me

[@heatherbrownmusic7536]

There's NO way this would have ever worked out like it did in the movie. Seriously dumbest movie ever! Plus Sierra ended up being a way worse person than Veronica. She basically cyber bullied Veronica AND lied to/kissed a guy who had no idea. There's just noooo way he would have been like "oh yeah forget all that stuff I want you oh baby oh baby." I realize they made him out to be a nice guy and all but that was such a stretch.

[@cyberf4ery]

was that oh baby oh baby reference from 10 things i hate about you

[@makgeollieonni5580]

Right and she never told him. After they kiss the second time he goes have we done that before and she giggles. Like no bitch that was harassment. She was a horrible person. She even took her hatred for her looks out on her mom. So much for being the girl that don’t care.

[@makenzieanderson7718]

thats why its a movie

[@redgreatspot7471]

Wish thanos appeared and snap his finger....The end

[@mcglynn20]

In some circles, what Sierra did to Jamey with the kiss could be viewed as sexual harassment.

[@aarushisb]

The whole movie could have ended with a simple delete or wrong number. Don’t text strangers kids because unlike this movie you won’t end up with them!

[@th4nky0uf0rth3ven0m]

Yes seven year olds most definitely watch alex meyers

[@roxyheart5517]

@@th4nky0uf0rth3ven0m not 7 but I'm 10 so still a kid so u wrong

[@justsomeindianwholikesanim8564]

I’m 12 and I watch Alex Meyers

[@crisc1049]

I ended up wanting veronica to be with Jamie for real lmao

[@juke7618]

Veronica has a way better character arc too. She was better in every aspect and I was really rooting for her.

[@marissasolis1475]

Same lol

[@natemanning924]

Jaime is pretty dense tbh so it’s even more frustrating at the end.

[@natemanning924]

Tova Reardon True

[@chesspiece4257]

Same!

[@madbum1281]

Movie Summary: Netflix approved Catfish and Sexual Assault

[@imtihanatq]

It's for a test of the viewer that they knew that all of you gonna react like this to distinguish good & bad. But then, how if the viewer can't distinguish that kinda thing and being delusional? ._. idk

[@Emma-Ilona13]

Fr. I watched this and wanted to throw up. Like I was so pissed that I wasted 1hr and 45min of my life on "sEiRrA bUrGeSs" and her messed "rOmAnCe".

[@mkbXD]

noah’s whole personality is being physically attractive. it’s kinda sad he has no diversity in his roles.

[@narsiss]

i know! in every movie hes just an attractive guy with 0 personality at all

[@altynai4175]

Try watching him in “the fosters” as Jesus. Jesus gets a TBI and Noah pulls it off really well and has some really deep scenes.

[@DeeFightingDreamer]

He was sort of cute at the start but now I'm kind of over him. Newsflash: there are other attractive, cute boys his age that can actually act really well and are nice people (Joshua Bassett for example)

[@catzie_78]

@@altynai4175 ...!? What is t h a t ! ?

[@mike2207]

@@DeeFightingDreamer how do you know this actor isnt a nice person?

[@Diastoniann2]

But let us all be honest in real Jamie would still go for Veronica not Sierra

[@Xehanort10]

Veronica's the better of the two because even though she started off as a "mean girl" and bully she grew out of it and actually became a nice person. Whereas Sierra's self pitying and whiny and thinks she's hated because of her looks and weight when it's because she's a catfisher who pretended to be Veronica so Jamey would go out with her, pretended to be deaf so she wouldn't have to talk then he wouldn't realise her voice wasn't Veronica's, hid under a car during Veronica and Jamey's date, makes Jamey think she's Veronica and assaults him by forcibly kissing him. Then when her plan backfires because of Jamey and Veronica falling for each other she ruins their relationship out of spite.

[@roxyheart5517]

@@Xehanort10 yeah but in rom coms jamie: YoU ArE ExSaCtLy mY tYpE

[@EmyN]

Yeah, he went to her in the first place lol

[@pockysmoky3246]

''Sending little flirty animal pictures... " *fishes kissing each other* I-... Okay...

[@redqueen0707]

Kanna Kamui WTF NuDEss nO wAy wE sENt FlYRtY anIMal piCTurEs !!!!’

[@user-jq1if7ue1e]

Not even flirty, that is actually a sign of aggression, Lol.

[@ash2694]

I know it's totally weird and surprisingly aggressive 😂😂(a red flag already)

[@has2871]

Ya like in the name of flirting they're just being lame.

[@awaiting641]

*Shamilla has entered the chat*

[@dee607]

"Back when I was a 21 year old high school student.." *THE SHADE.*

[@sparco956]

Honestly i missed him saying that every time lmao

[@bobthepotato4264]

Alex: "You guys ever notice that the popular girls always come in groups of three?" *Heathers has entered the chat*

[@harlow8563]

Because of the dad joke: what do girls travel around in odd numbers? Because they can’t even

[@sorchascolai8078]

Yaaaaaaaaaassssssssssss

[@weesalikesmilktea4829]

@@harlow8563 yeah, and one makes her look lonely but having five people in your friend group doesn't make it look "elite" enough

[@cliterally]

@@harlow8563 lmao

[@hunkalicious9904]

*Schuyler Sisters have left the chat*

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Why every popular girl has exactly 2 friends: -Being popular is like a war. -The god of war is Mars. -Mars has 2 moons.

[@nahomybricelafernandezsuar3695]

Are popular girls mars

[@kupkate04]

This is deep.

[@Britney8084]

I love this

[@cjanunobi1800]

Sierra is a manipulative person who assaulted a guy. Also can we all go on the fact on how she never properly apologized. Veronica started out as terrible but became way better later on and stood up to her terrible mother. However I just had to sip my tea with Jamie. His brother was deaf however Jamie was born with some type of mental disorder. This fool was cat fished and when he found out and got ticked rightly so Sierra rather than apologizing said do you ever just feel like the world is... and I had to pause the movie on how she basically acted as the victim and she got the guy. Jamie was the worst and I refuse to spell it with a ey instead because that’s dumb

[@maddfinn11]

Candy man no one molested anyone ?

[@cjanunobi1800]

She molested him by kissing him when he thought he was kissing the popular girl

[@iisuperstarii7310]

@@cjanunobi1800 I think that's assault. Molestation has a different nuance.

[@cjanunobi1800]

Oop I’ll edit

[@peraltiago7102]

Yeah...this movie is all kinds of twisted.

[@raechelverghese3018]

I really wanted Veronica and Jamey to end up together.

[@giselle1312]

Raechel Verghese same

[@lethumthiyane5245]

Raechel Verghese Me too It just took Veronica giving Jamey her number

[@victorhopewave]

Finally! Someone spells Jamey's name how it's spelled in the movie.

[@catzie_78]

Sierra is a bitchy asshole she sucks and veronica deserves better

[@easiergone]

same this movie was so bad

[@geniehossain3738]

Sure, she may have lied extravagantly and went to great lengths to deceive a nice, unsuspecting guy, and may have also committed egregious slut-shaming against someone who trusted her, but it’s okay! Because she’s i n s e c u r e and isn’t traditionally pretty and that makes it completely cool! Right? Right?!?! Y I K E S

[@ellamarieparreno4167]

Genie Hossain im soo late but bet if it was a pretty girl everyone would call her mean lmao

[@ugonnascorner3210]

@@ellamarieparreno4167 *👏THANK YOU👏*

[@hafsahparveen1788]

i cant tell if ur being sarcastic...

[@20dabarr58]

Look man, she wrote a song, what more do you expect?

[@ugonnascorner3210]

@@hafsahparveen1788 she is

[@meherpanjwani7661]

“It’s peter from to all the boys Except his name is Jamie now “😂😂

[@tbone9474]

Imagine if it was a guy kissing a girl who thought he was someone else... the cops would come over quicker than someone can say "sexual assault"

[@kiwibanana7590]

Yeah, pretty much. It's so annoying, who the hell decided guys can't get assaulted?!

[@jadeokedare4791]

Ik, girls shouldn’t be assaulted, and it’s a big problem in our society, but there should be an equal, where roles reversed it would be the same good or bad consequence

[@afrowit8297]

@@kiwibanana7590 Feminists.

[@iiamromika]

Afro Wit no one ever said that we-

[@Hi-gg8rp]

Cuz it would be sexual assult.....

[@beatrizdantas4157]

Sierra logic: 1- Lied to Jamie about who she was 2- Bullied Veronica on social media etc But guys, it's completely fine because she's chubby!

[@lovemachine225]

Right! Like, come on! Being chubby is not the end of the world nor is it an excuse to be a trash person.

[@constantinoconstantine7906]

Chubby? She fat !!

[@weir-t7y]

Well yeah that's the message of the movie

[@laurakotkova]

i can't believe that you didn't mention the part when sierra pretends to be deaf lmao

[@Sofia_eli]

Exactly! That was so cringey and unnecesary and I also found it disrespectful 🤔

[@jjkelly5219]

IN FRONT OF HIS DEAF BROTHERS

[@jjkelly5219]

Brother*

[@jazzyj7478]

I laughed so hard at that part lol

[@skyvenger7724]

Compare to the rest of the movie, that one is just nothing. She faked being deaf so that he wouldn't reconize her voice, but then she screwed up because he knew sign language, but is deaf brother was also there. I guess it was "offensive" but it was more of a misjudgment and a "oh fuck what do I do" type of thing you know.

[@serenafallin4475]

I hate how this movie was like: "Hey guys! jamie was sexually assaulted, but it's all good because it was a WOMAN who assaulted him."

[@lucifernazaedi]

“An insecure woman who isn’t considered hot” you mean

[@noxolokumkanikazi4819]

nonoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[@maryannclementiii-uw5pk]

Except the movie literally never says that her being a woman has anything to do with it. Watch Revenge of the Nerds and tell me men never get away with worse just because they happen to have some insecurities.

[@SamSionxoxo]

IT 👏 SHOULDVE 👏 BEEN 👏 JAMEY 👏 AND 👏 VERONICA 👏 she may have started as a mean girl but SHE CHANGES! Sierra LITERALLY catfishes this guy for MONTHS, even pretending to be DEAF when he was around her! Not only that, but when she saw Jamey kissing Veronica, she ATTACKED her on social media! But Veronica was the girl Jamey thought Sierra was! Sierra DID NOT deserve anyone’s sympathy! This movie makes me so mad I stg

[@unicornpower1216]

Sam that’s what I’m saying!!

[@TBT707]

Agreed

[@ElsaCatInc]

AGREED!! Sierra did NOT deserve to end up with Jamey and I think he and Veronica would have been great together. She really became a better person while Sierra literally just...became an buttface.

[@magic75450]

That's why I don't watch original teen movies of Netflix (or TV shows most of the time). I just wait to see Alex Meyers' reaction about them.

[@ElsaCatInc]

1 # Haha, nice. The only original teen movie I actually enjoyed on Netflix was “To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before” but all the other ones are pretty dumb.

[@LostApotheosis]

Veronica was the real main character to be honest.

[@error9106]

She and Jamie are the only good characters

[@lethumthiyane5245]

Lowkey think that Jamey and Veronica would have gorgeous children

[@miiamidblu]

@@lethumthiyane5245 they definitely would have made a better couple than the one we got in the movie that's for sure...

[@GhostlyNerve]

Error I like Sierra’s best friend. 😂

[@mariner355]

sounds familiar

[@6895Anna]

"Back when I was a 21-year-old high school student..." Hahahaha!

[@isabellesaunders5784]

6895Anna I read this as the vid said it

[@misscypher9857]

Moral of this movie: If you’re really insecure, it’s okay to be problematic. Also, catfishing is okay

[@heyyou9928]

She catfished a guy but it's fine, she kissed a guy without his consent but it's fine She bullied a friend in social media but it's fine This movie sucked *Edit: HE GAVE CONSENT TO BE KISSED BY VERONICA NOT SIERRA AND BOTH VERONICA AND SIERRA DID WRONG. that's basically the whole debate on the replies, saved you time, you're welcome*

[@Lucifronz]

Shitty plot with an irredeemable character. Yeah, this movie sucked.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Yeah, definitely not my cup of tea

[@yaboyjosh2737]

I watched about 3 minutes and was like oh fuuuuuck this

[@jordanlorraine5072]

hey you she also pretended to have a disability

[@itsalladream5559]

... also She threw her long-time best friend by the wayside but it's fine. Ugghh

[@yoonglesloml4382]

honestly, just switch the genders and it'll totally be a scandalous movie

[@Nicamon]

...and the fact that it's *not* scandalous with the non-switched genders is a problem.

[@yoonglesloml4382]

@@Nicamon yup that's what i mean

[@mariannecontrino6297]

@Liss2271 You're absolutely right. Really surprised that I haven't seen this comment sooner. There was a pretty good/funny movie from the '80's called "Roxanne" starring Steve Martin, and Darryl Hannah, that is based on the play. In it, the woman ends up sleeping with the good looking guy she thinks is the man she's been writing to, and talking with, which is shitty too. No matter how you look at it, it's deceiving someone, and taking advantage of them sexually. Really awful message to glorify for a teen, and preteen audience.

[@chadpowell1832]

@@mariannecontrino6297 Yup, Imagine if you were about to kiss a girl you liked and then you open your eyes to fine someone else! Its literally a crime of some sort. If the genders were swapped feminists would be all over this.

[@robdog4062]

@@mariannecontrino6297 Well to be fair the 80s is a whole lot different than it is now

[@emilyfield6163]

Veronica looks like Maddie Ziegler a little bit, lol.

[@sharnaclarke8230]

Emily Field she looks like her so much that I had to google it a few seconds after trying to watch the movie

[@444ngelhaven8]

a combo of Maddie Ziegler and Lauren Germain who plays Chloe Decker in Lucifer.

[@ambre4144]

shae yes omg I always thought that but nobody saw it. Thank u I’m not crazy

[@DaisygoesCrazy]

I literally thought it was her lol

[@emilyfield6163]

shae Omg I love Lucifer... But yeah, I see both.

[@maschasinhaverma1248]

The victim is Jamie. And blame is on veronica. AND SIERRA IS THE BAD GUY

[@loraelizabeth7580]

1. Terrible example this movie is setting 2. That kiss was 100% assault/sexual assault 3. How do you not know how to sign your own name? That’s important. 4. I want to see the same movie but switch the genders, then see how people react. 5. I saw some girl posted about how SBIAL was better than the Kissing Booth & TATBILB, and I was like “woah woah hold up there is NO possible way that a movie about catfishing is better than actual love stories”

[@MissDowie]

Maybe that girl is the one played sierra 😂

[@ugonnascorner3210]

The kissing booth is bad but not SBIAL bad And to to all the boys i loved before is awesome None of them is to be compared to the garbage that is SBIAL

[@nnn-v6w]

I agree with everything but she could’ve just turned deaf recently so she doesn’t know sign language yet.

[@Blabla-li6bg]

I completely agree. I found the way this movie presents cat fishing and the kiss (sexual assault) as acceptable and insignificant to be extremely problematic as it suggests unequal standards because I think the reaction and outcome would be completely reverse should Sarah have been a boy. It’s just a dumb kid movie but if we’re dissecting it, the movie just kind of backpedals gender equality progression a bit in my opinion🤷🏼‍♀️

[@mariadinizcosta7098]

Funny you should mention re-doing this movie with a boy, because this was actually a gender-switched, modern day, teenage, very lousy adaptation of Cyrano de Bergerac.

[@ninasimeunovic474]

" I'm ugly and insecure so you should just forgive me "

[@Slothmantha]

I just realized, this whole thing starts up with her wanting a car....and that is never brought up again... woah...

[@leia2017]

Slothmantha ikr

[@gpigs75]

I thought it was for getting experience with stuff to apply to colleges

[@alvaoliviah]

"20 000 followers, following zero" lol don't you have any friends??

[@tanvidesai2830]

Also, no memes?? Literally none?!?!

[@aistosee]

explore page or alt account

[@jXded.]

"You're not a lot of people's type....but you're *my* type.....you're my type" *what*

[@michelle-hu9qf]

they give noah the cringiest lines i stg

[@vehementisa3458]

I thought that just goes for everyone. Even the "hottest" person on this planet isn't hot to everyone. Everyone has a different type. I don't see why they thought that line was necessary to put in there though. Kind of rude to tell your partner, or future partner.

[@grimreapershat7953]

I don't know how she's his type when he asked for Veronica's number. Does he even get to know Sierra in the movie? Like her personality or anything aside from her creepy catfish side?

[@sugasinfireration5863]

Grim Reapers Hat I think it´s one of the main phrases of the movie "He likes me. All these words are mine" (I watched the movie in a different language so I don´t know if these were the exact words but it should be close enough) which indicates that he likes her personality. We all know what she did was stupid and she should have been honest from the start but other than that she seemed to be herself while texting him so I would say Jamey knows her personality and might have fallen in love with that.

[@coolgirl8475]

who is you righttttt

[@aaronismanly3733]

Sierra:*googles how to make a guy fall in Love with you* Google:manipulate his feelings through text to make the guy you like think he's talking to the girl he likes then make the girl he likes go on fake dates with him until you muster up the courage to destroy his love life. Rinse and repeat Sierra: yes good plan

[@trishahhh4208]

Aaron the majestic idiot this deserves more likes XD

[@revolvingworld2676]

Bing: "You cant, just be yourself and hope for the best"

[@King-or6ll]

@@trishahhh4208 Replace Google with bing lol

[@thegreatestconfession4006]

Sounds like the standard wiki-how guide.

[@chadpowell1832]

Imagine what Bing would pull up.............

[@yes-pt6oe]

Sierra Burgess IS a loser and it has nothing to do with her looks or popularity. What she did to both Jamey and Veronica was effed up, and I can't believe they both forgave her, especially after all she did was write a song. I didn't hate the movie, but there were just so many issues with it and I don't think it deserves all the positive attention it's been getting.

[@AnimeMidnightMe]

not to mention the song was just moping about how "you wouldn't pick me if I way myself and thats why I had to do all these horrible things to you"

[@onetwo6619]

Era Reads nobody called her ugly or anything. She never cared about her looks and basically tried to look bad. She knew her plans backfired and saw her looks as an opportunity to make an excuse. That’s honestly one of the worst things about this movie

[@caitlynstyles2390]

Literally she used her looks for an excuse for everything even though no one really mentioned her looks

[@mirelasemanjaku]

The song however was just a pity song for herself! Not a single line apologizing for the fucked-up actions she took! Lying to Jamey and not only dragging Veronica into it, but shaming her bad in front of every one for something SHE made her do! But all's good because she's fat and society should close an eye on her, or else they're being "judgmental" and bully!

[@maymiegaming]

"You think I'm mean? You should check the mirror, because your looks are the least ugly thing about you." -Veronica

[@Carol-1313]

I never thought I would want the "mean girl" to end up with the guy in a movie like I did when I watched this one.

[@zizijun9723]

if the roles were reversed and it was jamie and his male friend pulling this whole deception game on either veronica or sierra (especially with that kissing scene) this whole show would be classified as Sexual Assault Culture 101. but it's cool here, because it's a chubby girl! (note: I have nothing against fat people. I just hate it when body size is made an excuse for horrible behaviors towards others)

[@Mythda]

it's not the body size that's being used as the defense, it's gender. in a Comedy you can have women do a lot of rapey things and shrug them off as jokes because society as a whole doesn't see them as threatening enough to warrant any outrage.

[@eileeng9317]

It actually feels like a combination of the two. The whole movie is Sierra whining about how ugly she feels and trying to use it as justification for her actions. And then there's the societal influence of her gender as well, brushing off her creepy behavior and borderline sexual assault.

[@account_nameonline6420]

Zizi Jun yes you are right about the sexual assault thing...but back in the day there was “revenge of the nerds” where the nerd tricks the pretty girl into thinking he was someone else to have sex with her. Pretty gross, but I think it was years before the current social climate so nobody really worried much. Either way it was creepy then and is creepy now.

[@Mythda]

@@account_nameonline6420 oh absolutely. There's even the more modern take of "oh those weird nerdy people! Lol!" With Big Bang Theory. They do some pretty creepy shit there and it's blown off as jokes because they're non-threatening.

[@datemasamune2904]

This is actually a modern retelling of a French play, where the two main characters are guys.

[@alexandriaking2410]

The kissing thing is super uncomfortable

[@leowright2251]

I screeched when it happened that part was sickening

[@herpyderp2778]

Yup it sure is Sarah It sure is

[@dime1012]

It was disgusting and cringey

[@tessahartman7870]

I feel like Sierra didn’t learn any lesson or have any type of growth. Veronica became a much better person and I feel like she should’ve ended up with Jamey because she ended up being WAY more mature.

[@trinaq]

Tessa Hartman I couldn't have said it better myself. Veronica definitely changed the most out of all the characters, and I feel that she deserved more than she ended up getting. Sierra's relationship with her successful parents and always feeling overshadowed by them could have made for a compelling subplot. But the issue is that it's only really addressed towards the end, and never comes up again after the scene where Sierra has an emotional breakdown in front of her parents.

[@Jhey-jq4xf]

Tbh I dont think either of them should be with Jamey. Let's not forget Veronica agreed to trick him with the video chat, pictures and the date. She even helped Sierra sexually assult him. Sure her character arc was great and she's a waaay better character than Sierra however to say she deserves to have a romantic relationship with Jamey is a no for me.

[@tessahartman7870]

oh shoot i completely forgot about that kissing scene somehow, yeah i take that back. i'm not going to defend veronica's actions because what she did was wrong, but her intentions weren't selfish like sierra's. yeah she originally helped sierra to become smarter for a guy, but the video chat and letting sierra kiss him were done to help sierra out because she was a friend. that doesn't make it right, but its better than sierra who's only motivation throughout the movie were all based on selfish needs. then to think veronica easily forgave sierra after she leaked that picture to the whole school. that's why i think veronica is much better and should've ended up with the guy, not jamey, but maybe a guy.

[@Jhey-jq4xf]

@@tessahartman7870 Agreed.

[@Kbean298]

Tessa Hartman i agree

[@baepsaesay]

"the only teenager who doesn't obsess over her looks" the first line I heard from her and I can already tell she's probably one of those people who think showering and taking care of yourself and just generally loving yourself is a bad thing.

[@kanyewestfan4758]

fr

[@schwarzerritter5724]

If someone unironically calls herself that, she actually does obsess over looks but is going for a negative reaction instead of a positive one.

[@katiechong9745]

i would’ve been okay with this movie if everything hadn’t worked out for Sierra in the end and she had to live with the consequences

[@jay-bp5iw]

정주은 right

[@marvelbrights5485]

I agree with that

[@IM-ku9gi]

Yeah Jamie and Veronica should have ended up together, that way Sierra would have learnt that what she did was wrong and ruined her chances

[@ganzlove]

@@IM-ku9gi I totally agree. I liked Veronica way more anyway

[@cheaffsdeath8586]

정주은 truuu

[@trinaq]

This movie had so much potential at the onset. For starters, you have the female lead, who isn't conventionally attractive, as many in the genre are shown to be. Being played by Shannon Purser, a decent actress, certainly helps. But the problem with the movie is that the narrative constantly attempts to make us side with Sierra, and paints her as the victim, when she clearly isn't. She never seems to learn from her mistakes, and as pointed out in another video, tries to justify her actions based on her insecurities. It's tough to believe that Veronica would forgive her THAT quickly for publicly embarrassing her in front of everyone, or that Jamey would find her endearing at all due to her horrendous behaviour. It takes a simple song to convince them to give her another chance, and everything is instantly made right again?! Ultimately, the cast were the best thing about it, and if they had focused more on Sierra and Veronica's growing friendship and developed Jamey and Dan as characters more, and if they'd actually made Sierra likeable.

[@dannyd4339]

She actually played her part well. All fat ugly people male or female always live with a victim complex and think it is everyone's fault they're not attracted to them and find them disgusting instead cause reasons. Why do you think the words "fat shaming" are a thing? It's not fat shaming. You're just disgusting looking and unatractive. Also possibly dying of cancer or heart problems. Maybe lose weight, eat less, work out instead of blaming the whole world for your issues. Sorry about the rambling but yeah.

[@weloveblackpink6383]

Danny D everything you said is accurate

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

Honestly the movies biggest mistake was making the mean blonde the most likable character

[@aleksandra5808]

I can't believe there are still people who think like this. Cancer and heart problems have nothing to do with weight, how fucking dumb are you? Stop pulling bullshit out of your ass to justify the fact you probably gave some poor girl mental issues with your bullying and admit you're a terrible fucking person.

[@LoveVictorious100]

I agree!!!! I loved the idea of the movie and how the actress wasnt a typical slim, model-like person and the guy was a sweet jock. BUT they made her seem so yuck and dislikeable because of her actions and so I couldn't really like her character at all. It was sad because i really wanted to like it :\

[@elierobinson3002]

it’s so cheesy at the end, i feel like he doesn’t even rly like her ;:

[@katie415]

sameee

[@maritzagonzalez4714]

Same

[@1221-r4k]

are we just going to forget the scene where sHE PRETENDS TO BE DEAF

[@gracemelone3974]

I KNOW

[@CoryMck]

Best Pickup line ever: "You're not everyone's type, but you're my time" Wowzers, thanks.

[@reegaard]

I have to admit that one cracks me up

[@raitaxx7578]

Yeah yeah everyone thinks ur ugly but BuT I ThinK uR pReTTy

[@hoseokismyhope3351]

the kissing scene was g r o s s

[@salehc7594]

It wasnt a kiss it was rape

[@Lrlindsri]

@@salehc7594 not rape assault

[@hansdietrich83]

@@salehc7594 yeah, that was definitly sex without consent, you get it

[@ItsDreame]

saleh ali sexual assault

[@girlzatah]

Really was I felt sorry for Jamie

[@meowandfurrever9324]

Wouldn't them switching places to kiss be considered sexual harassment in some way? Imagine two guys doing that to a girl, she would be disgusted

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

Meowandforever it’s assault but it’s cool cuz it’s a fat, ugly chick doing it

[@alicec2405]

i reckon it would be shown the same way, like sierra is basically one of those self proclaimed 'nice guys' who think they deserve a hot girlfriend because theyre awkward and 'not like other guys'

[@tamarat9735]

This is equally gross - that's the movie's main problem, that it pretends it is okay and acceptable because "she is unpopular and doesnt look like a model". Um okay. Just like at least 80% of high schoolers.

[@scoob1670]

@@alicec2405 fuckn EX A C T L Y

[@scoob1670]

@@tamarat9735 wOrd! Also, side note, at my school most people are attractive and it's really intimidating

[@_sxaxrxa1421]

So basically she catfishes him for weeks and he didn’t even get mad wow

[@melaninmelancholy]

exactly the ending should’ve been her apologizing to Jamey and him NOT FORGIVING HER (I mean she kinda deserves it for the stunt she put him through) apologizing to the Veronica and they end up becoming best friends and got accepted to the same college together. That would’ve been a great set up to a Netflix Spin-Off show actually( the adventures of 2 unlikely friends) It would’ve still had the same theme “people are not whom you expect, don’t judge a book etc” just instead of it being with a dude it’s with Sierra& Veronica since they were both quick to judge each other.

[@raulquezada4871]

Omg I would totally watch that!

[@martinick7614]

It's sound sooo much better

[@vinnyvice5797]

“Get away from me” *5 minutes later* “ ur totally my type “

[@aaliyahsajous8239]

Lmao

[@gabbyp.9016]

More like 2 seconds later 😂

[@defiantaichi]

Way to improve the movie - say she doesn't want to wear makeup, not toothpaste. Have the hot dude find out about Sierra and get mad at her. Have her go to his house and apologize on prom or whatever. And apologize to Veronica. Three of them become really good friends. Some days later, hot dude casually introduces Sierra to another guy and they hit it off well and this time she makes it a point to be honest to the other guy and to all her friends. Edit - it's an american teen romcom guys. Netflix wouldn't make this movie with a realistic or sad ending. It's not a tragedy. They could have improved it just in small places and would've made a world of difference.

[@yutassmilehealsme6572]

this is actually a so much better and realistic ending.

[@miraculouseveraftersforeve91]

@@yutassmilehealsme6572 Exactly!

[@Naomi-gr7fm]

Kind of reminds me of Eighth Grade. *spoilers below* Protagonist got over her crush of the star athlete in her class and ended up opening herself up to a friendship (potential romance) with the "weird" cousin of her classmate that bullied her. The ending in this movie is just all kinds of unrealistic.

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

Better Improvement: Sierra is exactly the way she is, but the movie doesn't go out of its way to portray her as the innocent good little poor victim. Instead, it ends with her losing a friend, being outed as a sexual harasser, cyber bully, narcissist, and overall shitty person. She loses everything. No man for her. She doesn't get into any college because word spread to completely discredit her. It becomes a cautionary tale about how not to act.

[@Naomi-gr7fm]

@@ShadeSlayer1911 oooooo now that's dark but realistic 👀👀👀

[@itssarina7893]

I feel like he didn’t actually like Sierra at the end

[@taxfruad]

Yea ikr

[@elizah9525]

Yeah he liked Laura Jean

[@leowright2251]

The feel of it was off to me. Like maybe the guy playing him didn't enjoy the uncomfortable, unrealistic ending and had a hard time getting into character at that last scene? Just a guess though

[@georgesaladbar7000]

Ya he just seemed uncomfortable

[@gemma2646]

Samee

[@samanthaolekas5]

I honestly think Veronica and Jamey would make a better pair then Sierra and Jamey....

[@trinaq]

Carmen Olekas Me too, they seemed to have more chemistry than Jamey or Sierra had with each other, as well as Veronica starting to genuinely like him. I would also support Sierra/Veronica as a ship, as they got closer as the film progressed.

[@sahithiambavaram1643]

Carmen Olekas Ikr cause Sierra is an effing loser inside and out

[@luz.1444]

don't hate but ..... who do u think is good for peter/jamey is it lara jean or sierra burgess ??

[@samanthaolekas5]

def lara jean

[@samanthaolekas5]

yep

[@jessicagilchrist6479]

"Every popular girls has two friends" - It's a Heathers reference! Or at least, Heathers established the trope. You should check it out, maybe? Not as a review or anything, but it played into the inspiration for Mean Girls.

[@Nancy-xf1tz]

I love heathers! My favorite movie

[@mr.eeggbert1340]

@@Nancy-xf1tz um actually heathers was a musical so....

[@Nancy-xf1tz]

@@mr.eeggbert1340 nah, the musical is based upon the movie 'heathers' from 1988.

[@josielatte905]

Jessica G. That’s really cool info! I didn’t know that.

[@goodjobeli]

@@mr.eeggbert1340 The musical was after the movie. I know because I love both.

[@sucons4254]

netflix all you had to do was tell a love story with a plus size actor AND YOU GIVE US THIS?

[@jenn4593]

But it fits in with our culture of cat fishing and social media.

[@jaymes3554]

Ikr? The one romcom with a person who isn't skinny and the plot turns her into a desperate monster lol

[@IfyouBelleve]

Veronica had more character development than the main character :/ Sierra was just making excuses for her behavior. I’m ok if he forgave her but yes she is lame. Because she catfishes someone and just excuses her behavior

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Yeah, i wished they focused more on Veronica and her friends. They were much more interesting

[@albertjacobosantana6985]

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp ikr, she would have saved this movie, and actually would have redeemed Netflix in the teenage rom-com

[@pooltokyo7418]

finally someone said that the movie is dumb

[@flash-lp3rc]

Pool Tokyo Everyone’s said that I haven’t heard anyone say they like it 💀😂

[@rainbowfish1587]

Sierra was manipulative and all, but she was a badly written character not because of that, but because she faced ZERO repercussions. Jamie had no purpose other than being played by Noah Centineo, realistically I don't think a love interest would just accept the fact that the person he'd been talking this whole time wasn't the same girl he asked her number for in the first place albeit they clicked personality-wise. I think as bizzare as it is I'd prefer if Jamie ended up with Veronica, Sierra facing the repercussions of not getting the guy because she was a manipulative catfish but in the end accepts the consequences and remaining good friends with Veronica and realizes that she was enough of a person as she was.

[@michelleuzo3843]

BBI BBO I love you so much this comment sums up my thoughts exactly

[@davidmccarthy8303]

Veronica helped her catfish the dude because she wanted to be mean to Jamie and use Sierra to trick a guy into thinking she's smart. lol Veronica is not a good person at all she's probably worse than Sierra considering Sierra really didn't have a chance with Jamie if not for catfishing but Veronica literally just catfished a guy for Sierra to trick a different guy and for the fun of it.

[@michelleuzo3843]

David McCarthy in no way absolutely no way is veronica worse than Sierra...just cause you don't stand a chance with someone does not mean you should catfish the person so you can stand a chance with him/her...what you said is completely wrong...I mean yeah sure veronica was a bad person but her development makes her a more likeable person than Sierra who didn't seem to grow at all in the movie

[@davidmccarthy8303]

Michelle Uzo Veronica literally cat fished the guy by helping Sierra catfish him which she did so that she could trick a guy into thinking she was smart. Like I get she is more like able but she’s not a nice person and she gets a pass for being pretty when in reality she is just as responsible for what Sierra did. She literally kissed the guy and did a video call pretending to be Sierra when the guy thought that he was kissing the girl he was texting not some random stranger. Think of it this way if you went on dating website and met someone and you were messaging them for weeks and really into them and you go on a date and meet them and it’s the same person in the pictures but you find out that you’ve been having this connection with someone else texting and you don’t know anything about them and they’re even the opposite of who you thought they wre the whole time and they took advantage of that by making a move on you wouldn’t you feel violated by that person? She’s every bit as guilty and creepy as Sierra for what she did even if Sierra is less likable

[@kianaalexis5004]

I wish it ended like that. This movie teaches people the wrong type of lesson.

[@anika-banikakee-kee1097]

honestly has anyone noticed how Noah Centineo in all his Netflix movies he is in some sort of fake relationship?? (that usually turns into a real one by the end...) to all the boys he is in a 'save-face' relationship, sierra Burgess its he thinks its someone else, in swiped and perfect date its a dating/hookup app that makes him or others date random people (basically not a real relationship) has no one else noticed that or...?

[@chrissyxxx3335]

Omg for real

[@chrissyxxx3335]

And the other one with Laura

[@kristianna9969]

One thing that made me dislike this movie is- they totally screwed up the whole main point. Like it had to be about being insecure and getting over your bullies etc., but instead we got a bully who used being a victim as an exuse for everything, like "yeah i bullied you by showing those dms of your breakup but because you are so pretty it's YOUR fault for making me insecure" THEY HAD ONE JOB.

[@mrbushido6823]

Man if you swap the female characters with male characters and keep the same story the reactions would be ... interessting

[@uzgunseytan4238]

There's a Tamil movie about a guy catfishing a girl. People think that movie is a masterpiece. I absolutely hated it.

[@Atilla_the_Fun]

@@uzgunseytan4238 What's the name?

[@uzgunseytan4238]

@@Atilla_the_Fun Minnale

[@besos4169]

interesting*

[@TheMallachiv]

Mr Bushido RIGHT! that's what I'm saying 😂😂😂

[@ashleycarmella1471]

plot twist the Sierra Burgess universe is actually the upside down, where teen boys fall in love with their sexual assaulters and are considered ‘cute’...

[@drfreudsmom]

sxedi’s void. headcanon accepted

[@gerbilfantastic]

"Barb from Stranger Things is in a Marching Band" I can't stop laughing

[@nepenthe_1610]

The movie started out great. It had so much potential. It looked to address the current issues we face. It opened a lot of ends at the beginning, like Sierra's anxiety, her physical appearance, her wanting to go to Stanford but not having any 'tag line'-Sierra Burgess is a what? Etc. At some parts it was realistic, it showed that people aren't always entirely mean or good. We got to see Veronica's growth but not Sierra's. Jamey was downright played but yet their relationship could have ended the way it did only if the movie could have given us some time to follow up on Sierra's apology etc. It all seemed so rushed up. Like Sierra faced zero consequence for what she did. And what she did was major bad. Lastly, Sierra Burgess is a loser. I loved Veronica more. I watched because of Noah C, but this was even worse than Joe King's Kissing Booth. The movie had a lot of potential, but didn't utilise it. It had so many open ended questions- like did Sierra get her tag line? Did the circumstances so potrayed defined her in any way? How did she land up in Stanford? Etc etc. It was as if they forgot all about it.

[@marza97]

I have the exact same questions! I am still confused at how she got into Stanford if she didn't do anything to stand out! She also didn't submit the English assignment so she would have dropped her GPA. It made no sense!

[@tessahartman7870]

I’m so mad about the essay thing never getting any follow up. I was hoping it would end with her reading the essay off and her tag line would be Sierra Burgess is a loser and then go into a lesson she learned from cat fishing and becoming friends with someone she never thought she would. I feel like it would’ve been a easy way to tie up loose ends.

[@nikitadelange4874]

This paragraph has a lot of facts 👏💯

[@mehdimusawi3506]

She’s a horrible character in riverdale aswell

[@lauryncoleman3431]

Mehdi Musawi and they both are a bitch to a character named Veronica sksksksksk

[@nanalove3819]

That's why we all miss Barbara

[@mehdimusawi3506]

im a whale Hahahaha fuk I didn’t realise 😂

[@aaliyahsajous8239]

Good thing Barb is dead so she can't ruin her innocence

[@cosetteshuman1815]

Awwww. Ethelhead?

[@helenarosno]

I watched this movie yesterday only because I knew you had a video about it coming up, great analysis😉

[@pralayjalvi8097]

And I watched this movie yesterday only because I knew you'll be commenting in this video:),

[@pandacharmzluver]

same HAHA

[@Lunaxklk]

omg me too, I only watched it because I wanted to know the movie before he published this vid

[@lookitslw9707]

Saaaaame!

[@megvincent3986]

LOL i only watched the movie because I saw that Alex was reviewing it too :)

[@nadiagonzalez9297]

big ol' red flag: the movie

[@fransea]

love this channel because i get all the info without watching the movie 😂👍🏽

[@itssarina7893]

Chelsea & Franz oh I watch the movie before he spoils it...

[@charlotteroberts3466]

If u like horror movies but don’t wanna watch them watch Found Flix, they even explain what happens in the ending

[@stannunjoon5004]

Saaaame

[@momo-pp2cx]

Yeah, i used to do this but wowie I ended up liking some of the things he hated.

[@NayeeXo]

me toooo

[@l.o.v.edrive3466]

Yea the movie would've been better if it was about friendship. But sadly it turned out to be a movie about a "nice girl" aka a "I'm not like other girls and I'm better."

[@gavinezragoh5333]

This movie was so disturbing from beginning to end, but I think what was the worst part of it was that Sierra Burgess GETS THE GUY IN THE END. This movie would have been a thousand times better if the ending showed Sierra facing even an ounce, an iota of accountability for what she did to Jamey, but nope! On the contrary, Sierra is REWARDED for her deception, her active manipulation enables her to get Jamey in the end. How messed up and twisted a message is that to send? That you can, and should, deceive your way into a 'loving' relationship? And also, the kissing scene where Veronica and Sierra trick Jamey into kissing Sierra is just straight up sexual assault. I felt so bad for Jamey throughout the whole movie.

[@leowright2251]

I agree; I wish if they just *had* to keep the catfish/betrayal stuff in they would've at least written an end that maybe (MAYBE) Veronica and Jamie forgave her but didn't associate with her again- even forgiveness is a stretch because when I was in HS kids didn't really have deep enough emotional maturity yet to forgive people for things that extreme, especially. You'll never hear anyone say 'oh yeah, them teens are all the kind and forgiving type' it's not very realistic lol

[@gavinezragoh5333]

Yeah totally agree with you, the ease with which everyone just forgives Sierra for everything she did just adds to the movie's generally 'shrugging off' Sierra's catfishing like its totally no big deal, or at worst, a victimless act. This isn't to say that Jamey forgiving Sierra is necessarily wrong, I wouldn't have minded Jamey forgiving Sierra for what she did if the movie didn't also have him get with her, that part annoys me much more because it means Sierra essentially ran roughshod over the guy's autonomy and freedom to choose who to date, and nevertheless eventually 'scored' him in the end, which is incredibly disturbing to watch. Also, Veronica isn't exactly innocent in this movie either, she knowingly and intentionally aided Sierra's mistreatment and deception of Jamey so I don't think she should get that much of a pass either.

[@alittlefox13]

I agree, the kissing scene was assault. He didn't consent to kissing Seirra. Made me cringe! And if she was his type, why was he asking out the hottest girl in school. None of this adds up.

[@yutassmilehealsme6572]

fr tho that scene was wild af i had to replay it bc it was so incredulous

[@miraculouseveraftersforeve91]

@@alittlefox13 Thank you?

[@placidpond8127]

She should have just corrected him when he called her Veronica and explained what happened

[@kenzie-rm]

Same

[@arian1115]

Then the movie would be much shorter than it was

[@nevergonnagiveyouup1180]

@@arian1115 not necessarily. If you’re a good writer you could find away to make it so Jamie still wants to talk to her and develop things from there