Sig Sauer Could Not Fix My || P365-XMACRO

[@scottamy6496]

Good on you for owning your mistakes and taking responsibility for your errors and being upfront about the experience!

[@I_ammm_mojojojo]

1. The slide isn't a paperweight as it is indeed still functional as it is.. just not with an optic. 2.The slide IS salvageable.. don't take it to a gunsmith as they are limited with their expertise and tooling.. instead, take it to a verified "Precision Machine Shop". They'll either: a. plug the holes and re-tap new ones to spec... b. tap a slightly larger hole for a screw that will still fit the optics' hole (thought the head may sit a bit higher or c. drill + tap a larger size and then use a heli-coil insert to bring it back to the original thread size

[@srtchino5078]

It is definitely repairable. I’ve removed countless broken optic screws from my own slides that I’ve overtorqued.

[@ROOSTER-ql5fs]

A lot of people watching this are probably new to the game. Very informative and appreciated video. Don’t give in to the haters and be so hard on yourself either. Shit happens.

[@REDNECKROOTS]

You need to drill a small little hole into it. Take a small eye glass screwdriver and sum lil epoxy on it. Jam it into the little hole u drill. Let cure and remove.

[@scottstrader2303]

I'm glad you had good luck with customer service. I have a p365xl and when you pull the slide back to chamber a round you can feel the fire control unit lift up a little. They told me it was normal. I put the fire control unit in my other one and it's tight. Didn't want to help at all. Everyone that shoots it all have the same thing to say, what the heck. Two people at the range I go to have changed their mind on buying one because of it.

[@Not_on_u_tub]

I am sincerely happy for you. It is very impressive that you are being so transparent.

[@BrandensOutdoorChannel]

I work in a gun shop that carries sig. the optics plates use a Torx bit so I don't know how you stripped it. You should have gone with the Holosun EPS Carry.

[@yungdawzen747]

That’s crazy man, had this almost happen to me yesterday. Picked up my first Sig from my local gun store here in Dallas today. Gotta say, this P365X is truly fascinating with the design and feel that it possesses. Coming from my edc Glock 19, to finding something that weighs less and yet holds 18 rounds with 1 in the head / 17 in mag is mind blowing! This is also my first mos handgun, so I decided to pair it with a HS507K as the cherry on top. Something told me to have the gunsmith there just go ahead and instal my optic. To my surprise the 1st P365x Macro had a thread issue so they did an even swap exchange for another P365X Macro and got me set up right. Funny thing, I almost pulled the trigger (pun intended) on a Glock 43x and now I’m glad I found a true middle ground between my Glock 19 and a 43. I’m looking forward to being able to break this in and zero it out.

[@RK57AZ]

Glad to hear that you had a good experience with SIG customer service as mine has been a mixed bag! I bought a new P556 swat 10” pistol in 2015 that came with a scratched receiver from the installation of the quad rail. Sent it back and SIG used the old sharpie trick for a quick and cheap fix and wouldn’t repair it to a factory finish after I complained! Then my new P226 9 mm broke its recoil spring and SIG said it’s over a year old! ( this pistol was part of a contract overrun and came with np3 internal parts coatings and a fde finish through Robar that took over a year to complete before being sold to me ) My new P 522 had a recall for the recoil assembly and was sent a new kit for free ( yea !) then that kit was defective and I had to pay for the latest fix! Now to your stripped screw problem. My new VP 9 was ready for its new Acro p-2 to be mounted until I stripped the torx head. I was able to remove the screw by using a square tapered shaft screw extractor after I lightly hammered it into the striped torx bore. I got very lucky! Aimpoint recommends 10 inch pounds for mounting plate screws after adding a small dab of blue loctite to the threads. Be sure to mark your screws to see if they are backing out. Stay safe and healthy! Ron

[@williamlay2244]

I just bought one and gun shop mounted a holosun 507k on it. He kept saying that he was having a hard time with the right screw but he finally got it on. When I got home and was checking it out I noticed that the front of the red dot was slightly crooked so I went to loosen up the screws to center it the left one no problem the right one he was having trouble with the head just snapped off and I barely applied any pressure to it. I tried to remove the broken stud with vice grips and it didn't work so I stopped there and called sig and sent it back so hopefully they will be able to remove it. So if it was your right screw maybe a defect with that right side

[@Tanner_ray0213]

Love your honesty, but to be fair. 5)3 screw are really really tight. You’re not alone in that. The mags are tight, I couldn’t even get the full 17 in both my new mags. And it’s extremely hard to rack a round in on a full mag. It’s still new so I get it but you almost can’t depend on it till you have some rounds in it. EDC or just the night stand gun. Which for 800 out of the box, I want that thing to run and be smooth because it will never be that clean again.

[@KoolKodyP]

I did the same thing to my X Macro too. Even with the tiniest broken screw extractor I could find it still wasn’t small enough. The EZ out ended up breakigg my off in the screw that was broken off in the slide. I was still able to put the cover plate on it but ended up selling it to someone who had no intention of putting an optic on it. Why am I sharing this? Because I too felt like an idiot, and I’m relieved I’m not the only one! I have decided that from now on, any optic or “gunsmithing” will be done by a gun smith.

[@007Chancellor]

The first P365 I bought had dead Tritium sights (I didn't notice it in the gun shop). I called SIG and had the same experience - professional, helpful, and top-notch customer service. They sent me a call tag, I sent the slide back, and they had it back to me in ONE WEEK!

[@alexp974]

My dad sent in his Sig for service after feeding issues (and mag was ejecting itself), A customer service rep personally called him after he received his gun back to ask him how it shot. I have not experienced better customer service from any company.

[@edsai2041]

The slides became available a couple of months ago for $499 from Sig and other places. It's mostly out of stock right now but it is possible to purchase them when they are in stock.

[@StraightUnderFireReviews]

What did you end up doing build wise ? Curious to know.. I mean that one post is gone but I’m sure red locktite to a single post could do the trick or some sort of bonding material, it would make it permanent but it’s a optic on a 5 Hundo and some change …

[@dannymcneal]

I just received my Holosun HE507K-GR-X2 and was so excited to strap it onto my XMacro. While the original plate came off without a hitch, the supplied screws (the thinner of the two sets) from the Holosun would not screw all the way into the slide. The right screw (facing from behind) would not screw in with the torque wrench set at 15 inch pounds, so I had to use a screwdriver. And the left screw wouldn’t go in halfway, so I had to use the allen screw that had been used on a RomeoZero mounted to a P365XL. What a goat rope! So now I cannot back out the allen screw on the left side, as the head appears to be stripped out. Guess I’m gonna need to purchase some reverse bits to attempt to back it out? I haven’t even shot the XMacro yet, and indeed this is a bad taste in my mouth, especially for how much I paid for this handgun.

[@triggerbarPhD]

Great vid. I love sig and I am a fan of the xdm elite 10mm guns!!

[@ShawnShipstad]

I have found the people at Sig to be great. This problem you had, I have heard before. I think if you did nothing, you may have come out better. Thank God Sig is modular. Best of luck and thank you for sharing. Possibly this will help the next person this happens to (And there probably with great liklyhood be many others) learn to to try to fix anything on their own. I have sent 2 of mine back, and they replaced my extractor, barrel and some other things (I forget what) and this was all on a P365. Take care.

[@bamahi7142]

"Beans and Franks!" How did you get the Frank above the Beans? 😂

[@roofrat68]

Expensive ass gun with cheap ass parts. Way to go sig sauer..good job cutting corners..just like other companies...

[@davidvargas6080]

It’s cool that you shared your experience and we all make mistakes. I m sure it wasn’t fun paying for it but sounds like the sting was lessened.

[@ShawnShipstad]

I hope his video helps someother people, I have heard of the exact same problem about 3 other times.

[@MrKeithcl]

What exactly did you do that resulted in this mistake. Did the screw strip? Did you try to drill out a stripped screw>? Can you delineate with a bit more clarity exactly what happened as I have this exact gun.

[@Roadrider19119]

I almost went down the same rabbit hole. I was taking the plate off. The first screw came out with no problem. The second one started to strip. I kept messing with it and it was getting worse. One of my coworkers does carpentry on the side. He was able remove the screw with out any damage. There are a lot posts on different forums, about people having problems removing these screws. I love this gun !

[@leeramos8783]

I had a slide optic plate screw head strip out on my macro.i believe the lock tight plus torque was the issue.i used my micro Dremel to cut a flat tip screwdriver slot in the head,then heated the screw a couple times with my electrical soldering iron.i tapped the edge of the screw and broke it loose.it took all of a half hour but did scratch my removable base plate.thanks lee

[@jtraptor7776]

hows the finish on the slide and mags holding up for your p365x macro? I heard there have been some problems with them rusting

[@cp2158]

It happens man. When i first bought my P365 XL i tried removing the rear sight plate to put a red dot on but the screws wouldn’t budge. Long story short, I ended up stripping them out and used a drill to drill them out. Fortunately for me i got them out without messing up the threads in the slide. Unfortunately i did mess up the rear sight thread and had to buy a new one.

[@Go2Sleep87]

I had this happen with my P365xl & I used a double sided micro extractor bit. I heated up an Allen wrench with a torch until it was red hot holding it with Vice grips then I placed it on the stripped screw while continuing to heat the opposite end to loosen the loctite. Then using the micro extractor kit I kept drilling until it came out. I didn’t think it was gonna come out because it looked about as bad as yours but it did without damaging the threads. I started with the smallest bit & worked my way up until it finally came out & it took me all the way until the biggest bit in the kit before it came out 😆.

[@XrayMike17plus1]

Thank you for your honesty. I do believe it is your fault. That said, this is an understandable situation. Kudos to you for just owning it and showing us what happened without drama. Repect. It appears Sig incorporated a pair of thin-walled stand-offs around the holes, reducing the chance for shearing force to break off the screws. Sort of a stand-in for a set of rear pegs, but at the cost of reducing screw diameter slightly. Your experience has been a cautionary one to the rest of us. Use blue locktite and a torque measuring device and ensure they're strait on not over-torqued which can otherwise happen. If you were to set up a Give-Send-Go I'd happily chip in twenty dollars towards a new slide. Hopefully you have an XL slide available to use as a stand-in until this is resolved. Thanks for sharing this.

[@lynnjones9712]

I am a new gun person, and wanted to thank you for this video. I am looking at purchasing one of these I thought I could put the Opt on myself.

[@MrKeithcl]

Looking forward to the 10mm review thanks

[@jakeboy1000]

Hello !!!! what streamlight is that? and what key did you use for the rail? thank you !!

[@thegreenberetlife0191]

I have always had excellent customer service when dealing with SIG. They are an excellent company.

[@gutWrench9mm]

Well there are many videos and blogs about how sig left them high and dry. But I’m glad you had a good experience in all seriousness.

[@kjhman]

Yeah I dunno what sort of luck or privilege you have with them but they basically tell me I’m shit outta luck anytime I call them about anything.

[@jamiecollett8840]

Could have happened to any of us. Don't sweat it man. Shit happens.

[@deucedeuce1572]

Damn, wish I had the money to buy the broken slide off you (assuming you would sell it). I like working on "unfixable" things. I'm disabled and try to keep my mind active when I can (and it really helps to fix things and save money). Guns are my passion, but I don't really have enough money to really buy any.

[@tboneaja]

Your a good man I’m glad everything worked itself out, no pun intended..👍🏼

[@joespencer2732]

I had my share of humiliating mistakes. Your not alone bro. Some I wouldn’t even want to tell you about. And I love my Sig too!

[@alejandrodelgado4457]

I had the exact same problem. Same screw and everything. I stripped the screw so badly I had to dremel a slot into the screw and use a flathead screwdriver to get the screw out. I messed up the cover plate in the process, but I put a Holosun 507K on it so didn’t need the plate anymore.

[@eddie2659]

Mistakes happen man & it could happen to any one of us. I’m definitely going to be looking for that XD video I’ve been eyeing the gun for sometime now just haven’t pull the trigger on the purchase yet

[@abw121]

I am retired and have worked in machinery trades in Illinois. And what you have there is a frozen bolt. Up here in Illinois we have shops the use EDM or Electrical Discharge Machines to erode the bolt out. Tool and Die makers and repair shops use them all the time. I would search Texas and see if they have any Machine shops that perform EDM or search outside of Texas. I have had several Vintage World War 1 and 2 rifles that had stubborn bolts frozen in receivers along with several newer rifles that had cross threaded bolts removed from receivers. Look the process up? It is a wizard using magic to remove metal and save Paper weights…….

[@Wickedtrucker75]

I bought one of the sigsauer 365 XL‘s.. and was putting a red dot on it finding out that one of the screws was stripped. Must be a hereditary thing with the sigsauer?

[@SpringerPrecision]

Hit us up if you want to get the screws out. It is cheaper for Sig to give you a new slide.

[@Greenmachine305]

The problem seems fixable. Carbide bit in a drill press and a tiny easy out.

[@Drewski423]

My hellcat pro osp was hard to get off too. They had blue loc tite on the screws. I went to take mine off and busted my knuckles all over the slide. Luckily I didn’t mess anything up. Idk if SIG puts their plates on as tight as Springfield does , but damn. They should just snug them and allow the owner to tighten them down. Most people are removing them and installing optics anyway.

[@sheepdogprotector5154]

What did you do wrong?

[@jeffwhitelock1013]

I just bought one what do you mean or not for sale I just bought the slide for that gun from sig

[@travisbennett4091]

Why didn't sig replace the slide

[@recoilrob324]

Those screws should have had a locking compound on them to keep them from coming loose and trying to just muscle them out is not a good idea. Stick a soldering iron in the hole and heat it up until you smell the Loctite which means it's no longer working and they'll come out easily with a proper fitting driver.

[@nonesta13]

I've thought of using a soldering iron but was worried some other internal part would melt

[@recoilrob324]

@@nonesta13 The screw will heat up very quickly without transferring much at all to the rest of the slide or internal components...so no worries using the soldering iron in this way. 4 or 5 seconds is all it should take for those little screws to come right out.

[@YourFavDieselTech]

The diesel mechanic in me knows how to fix that slide. Take it to a mechanic, they’ll know what to do 😭

[@chrisbabolat2]

Dude y’all messed that up good!!

[@aztecbobbyloco5923]

Good afternoon brother. I've been a follower of your channel since way before you started getting sig with your Glock 26 and other glocks. Also CZ I'm also a sig guy now. And sad to hear what happened to your slide. But for any reason you plan to sell that slide let me know. Iam very interested in it. And I have to say I've got several sigs all of them are the normal size. But I'm trying to build a larger one like the macro. Great work and great videos brother and good to have a Texan Mexican American brother out here. I'm in San Antonio Texas. God bless be safe and stay strapped and alert. 2A

[@ItzAlex626]

On my Sig X Marco, one of my screws wasnt on very tight. The other screw was on way to tight. I also noticed mine was already partly stripped from the factory. I had to use a bit that was 2 sizes larger and was able to get it off. Check your slides before you fill out that 4473. I noticed the screw heads were slightly different at time of purchase but didnt think much of it. Sucks it happened to you bro.

[@bpri9880]

I have an old Sig rifle that is out of production or discontinued and it broke like 5 years ago, the gun was already 10 or 12 years old, I put it in the closet and just forgot about it for awhile because I didn’t want to mess with it and it couldn’t shoot. Well one day during the pandemic I called Sig and they asked me to ship it to them to look at it ($50 dollars shipping label for both ways) anyway long story short they replaced the issues with new old parts and shipped it back to me. Not only did they fix the part they fixed it so it wouldn’t ever break again 👍

[@martina6212]

I really can’t believe people still buying sig. I’ve seen way to many issues with their striker fired weapons. I swear I see video weekly. My p320 turned to trash at 7000 rounds. I’ll never buy a plastic gun from sig. Glock CZ or HK for me.

[@ryanchinh1040]

Even p320 xten 10mm handgun all magazines have issue too. All xten magazines are loss after 200rd shot. P320 xten cost $800 msrp.

[@donovandaniel]

want to mail me that slide? I think I might be able to fix her

[@AliAkbar_313]

Man let me tell you, I went to the range this morning with mines to sight in my 507k, and I shot the best I have ever shot. Sig really did they thing with this one, I can’t exaggerate this enough!!

[@joshmajor8662]

I subbed due to your honesty Lol To be fair, you fucked yourself enough by yourself, there's no need to roast ya 🤷‍♂Haha 😂 Good luck man!! What's up with the random blur in the bottom left corner at the 7:00 mins??

[@NotBOB-81]

Only problem I've ever had with Sig was with my p320s. I have too, one with a thumb safety because of the whole drop safety issue. Apparently when dropped at a specific angle the trigger would continue under centrifugal force deactivate the firing pin safety would disengage and fire the weapon. So a thumb safety locking the trigger remedied the issue there the other doesn't have the thumb safety so I called Sig about the trigger upgrade and they tell me shipping labels otw. Till this day atleast a year later and I've called 2 more times since. Still waiting. This is the only issue I've ever had

[@GRat9717]

Hmmm. If you manage to get the screw out re-thread it with a Helicoil. You'll then have to bore out the hole on the optic to fit the larger needed screw.

[@chrissnyder5726]

I would like a chance to fix it.. I know you don't need it now... it would be fun to share some rethreating knowledge I have learned over the last 40 + years in machining..

[@KettlebellGunsmith]

If the OP doesn't give Chris the chance I'll be second in line. I know what I'd do if it were my slide to essentially replace that threaded mounting boss/tower.

[@DUD3_BR0]

I'm not a welder, but couldn't someone tig weld the hole and re-drill and tap it?

[@blubyuGTP]

can i have the slide paper weight

[@dalerobbins4737]

Sig has very good customer service ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@MrKeithcl]

I agree with others being critical of Sig. What? Do we have to have a degree in engineering now to remove a pair of screws??? We are talking about screws. They should use a larger stronger screw. Its F'ing obvious people are going to remove the plate to attach other optics. I have been wavering between a M&P Shield + 2.0 and Sig 365 XL. But this had made my decision.

[@MrKeithcl]

I have this same gun and in full disclosure I an a relative noob when it comes to pistols. I was able to remove the stock plate and put a holosun 407kx2. I did not use a torque wrench, I just used the allen wrench tool that came with my canik rival and I had no issues. I wish I knew what this guy did that resulted in this mistake. I did not hear him say he stripped it or striped it and then tried to drill it out etc.

[@3oneThrid]

I can get that out

[@gregorymaupin6388]

Dude you’re not even close to the first person to have done this, my buddy did the same thing to his gun and it looked far worse so don’t feel too bad.

[@logicalguy488]

Remember that Gun Smiths are not machinists. That look repairable.

[@RealNathanExplosion]

My screws came off super easy and the holosun I put on went right on

[@rich1958]

Bit a fab if Sig customer service. I had issue with my 716i tread from the start. I called them and guy gave me a slight attitude. The bolt gas rings are too big and bolt is super tight in BCG to the point it is difficult to charge the rifle. I was hoping break in would rectify but instead my charging handle broke. After the talk I had with them, I would rather fix myself then send to them.

[@williamwinn948]

i have the sig 716i tread and love that rifle. I've had no problems with mine The spiral gas ring is snug but that about it.

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

You want to sell me the broken slide?

[@duffculp]

Happened to me when I got mine on one side. Grabit Speedout pro Damaged Screw Extractor did the trick. Mine was worse than yours.

[@gasser2348]

YIKES ! ! ! I high quality precision machinist can fix that problem.

[@brandonfowler369]

That’s why gunsmiths exist!

[@brandonfowler369]

Meaning that we’re not all experts and we all make mistakes!

[@TrevDri]

This exact thing happened to me. I broke off both screws. They sent me a new slide. Luckily it was because I have a friend that has a friend at sig that took care of it for me. I can say that some of these screws come feeling like they’re fuckin welded into the slide. The screws stripped out and broke off. But on a different slide with the same screws it came off no problem.

[@claytonmelchor9403]

I had this on a shadow systems, they got the screw out and shipped it back in a week.

[@chrisbruce3193]

Hold on. So SIG put too much locktite on a bolt which you heated up AND put anti-loctite on and the bolt still snapped? Then they told you they couldn't fix it and that YOU would have to pay for a new slide? That sounds like the company is overly greedy and wouldn't warranty a gun that was incorrectly assembled from factory. Sounds to me like Sig needs to get their act together.

[@jacksquat2067]

Am I the only person who didn't immediately slap a red dot and light on mine? 😆 I EDC this gun and only threw some contrast sights on it. Wanted to keep it simple.

[@danal1911]

Great video Sir! 👌🏻🫡 is it true that the slide gets too hot like more than what is normal?

[@MF-ui3ov]

Send it to CNH Precision and they can mill it for an Trijicon RMR cc

[@roysalazar4811]

Same thing happened to me 2 days ago but I was able to fix it with some carbide drill bits, WD-40, and a dremel.

[@Sir.Joe13]

SIG ftw!

[@cecegarcia4624]

You want to sell it???

[@justindeletis8896]

Send me the slide. I can fix it!

[@austinhowze6280]

See I'd they make time serts that small if so you could put on in and file it to size

[@michaelbladen4971]

Talk to a welder preferably tig welder see if they can weld material back to the broken screw and extract it that way

[@KettlebellGunsmith]

That wall of the mounting boss is so thin welding any filler material there will melt it. It can still be done. Would need to fill it up then reprofile the boss. Then drill the blind hole then re-tap. A decent amount of work but doable.

[@dalechambers5234]

this is why i use my irons!😁

[@ratagris21]

Typical of SIG develop a product that is not well made, can't be fixed, and no resolution. The optics thing is just a hype that will play out over time if this keeps happening.

[@hectorfernandezhernandez3168]

Wait until it begins to rust

[@keysgirl7699]

Buy yourself a nice torque screwdriver. It will pay for itself.

[@wesleycameron1034]

You still got that old slide? What are your plans with it if you do? Lol

[@lonestarrepublic1836]

Not sure yet lol.

[@MrJeronlewis]

Consider that an inexpensive lesson on getting in over your head. Everyone does it and it only cost you a few hundred.

[@sirfitz8125]

I used the little tool that came with the holosun to remove my screws...hmmmmmm

[@infidel24]

Find a machine shop near you and take it to them.

[@James-uq4wb]

I will be glad to spend the money on repairing the slide and pay the shipping if you would send it to me. Thanks, James

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

$300?

[@JoseFlores-pm7qg]

If you broke the screws in a Glock they'd fix it with only the charge of shipping. Sig don't care about our broken guns.

[@charlesburnett5258]

This video was going great until you showed that Springfield in it.....oh the blasphemy...lol

[@flintsrt8]

Why can't you tell the price?

[@lonestarrepublic1836]

KZbin doesn't allow price of "pew" parts. They will give me a community guideline strike.

[@jackripper6033]

@@lonestarrepublic1836 I hear prices all the time on other KZbin channels. Weird.

[@lonestarrepublic1836]

@@jackripper6033 yeah i guess it depends. Strikes and demonetization are pretty common for “pew” channels. This video already got put under review because I said “G--U--N” in it.

[@djnfungun3588]

I’ll get that out in 3 seconds