Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 DG DN - Truth about the DUST problem...

[@nVuFilms]

do you have dusty nuts in your dg dn?

[@TheLAexplorer]

If I remember correctly, I subscribed to your channel after watching your review for this lens. I then bought it used from KZbinr Jason Vong in a random craigslist encounter. I know that's irrelevant but for some reason, I felt like mentioning it 🙂. Anyway, I only used the lens a few times because I bought it in early 2020 and I haven't had many shoots with it since. And yes, I eventually noticed dust inside of the lens (aka Dusty Nuts). I initially thought that the Dusty Nuts came from Jason Vong, and maybe it was a bad lens that he had sold me. But I remembered taking time to inspect it prior to purchasing it so I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt. After some research, I found that it was a universal problem on all of these lenses. Then I quickly found a solution on KZbin. All you need is a credit card and a +000 JIS screwdriver. I was able to buy it in a cheap Amazon set for $14.50 (Let me know if anyone would like the link. I don't want this comment to get flagged as spam). I was able to open it, clean it, and put it back together all in about 10 minutes. I was nervous but in the end, everything worked flawlessly. Now I don't mind keeping the lens since I know that I can take 10 minutes to clean the dusty nuts every few months. But yes, I agree that Sigma should either recall the lens or offer some sort of compensation. But since I bought it used, I'm assed out, so I'll just keep cleaning it myself. If anyone is interested in trying to clean their dusty nuts by themselves, just search for this video on KZbin: lens Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DG DN . How to remove, clean dust from inside.

[@nVuFilms]

@@TheLAexplorer wow.

[@DanTyler]

Unfortunately yes... this is really the ONLY point that disappointed me

[@SePark]

@@TheLAexplorer I just Googled “Jis Screw Driver” and got something else 😆😆😆 jk… I think I’m gonna try your method. Just saw a video on it and not as bad as I thought. Thanks for this comment. Vu, let me know if you want me to clean your DN while I am at it 😆🤙

[@yashika4k223]

@@SePark in Melbourne , Sigma clean this for free, as long it’s not grey import. If it’s grey import around A$100 for cleaning

[@phucmapvlog]

I saw a few reports that they fixed the dust problem in the new lenses. That being said, a buddy of mine got one recently....and he has dust inside.

[@nVuFilms]

Link to the report?

[@dylanjohndickerson]

That I did Phuc Map. I'm going to reach out to Sigma this weekend and see if I can get a swap. I think I got the little dust specs in the first month of using it too 😩

[@GamesArt86]

Check your lens serial number. Anything 5504 and below does not have the upgraded weather ring/seal. Anything above it does.

[@dylanjohndickerson]

@@GamesArt86 Apparently mine does have the weather seal. 5507***** 😶

[@GamesArt86]

@@dylanjohndickerson ok thats not good, means it's better, but still sucks? Bummer 😕

[@DeeDammersOfficial]

Just called SIGMA (no waiting on the phone, instantly picked up the phone), they offer FREE cleaning and they replace the sealing to prevent this from happening. Talked to them for about 15min, super friendly and they said YES this is an issue but if that´s happening, simply ship it to them and they will clean and fix this quickly. Most people here in Germany stated they got their lense back within 4 days! Support is freaking awesome.

[@morfawbebongnkeng85]

I am wondering what those of us in Cameroon will do. It very stressful shipping things from this end. It is very disappointing coming from sigma. That's much money from this end.

[@jasielm5258]

Gonna have to give it a try. Love the lens and the image but dust does creep inside. Also in the 16mm 1.4

[@iTziLLUMY]

No warranty if you buy from Amazon though...

[@willch19]

@@iTziLLUMY buy from authorized dealers for warranty

[@edc5338]

Sigma 24-70 had the dust issue with lenses whose serial number was 5504XXXX and below. Sigma was cleaning them for free and repairing them.

[@AsianWithHat]

I have sent my Sigma 24-70 in to Sigma as well for this exact issue back in Dec 2019, it has not been resolved.

[@PaulFeinberg]

I am still loving my Tamron 28-75. I just have to use my 17-28 to get 24mm. Great video and honesty Vu. Love ya man!

[@ReelRoyalty]

Bro, thank you so much keeping it real and sharing this! I had seen a few people mention this, but they seemed to skim over it making it not they big of a deal. You keeping it real, and show the dust and pubic dandruff (the comment was epic), really drills what am issue it is. Thank you again 👊🏽

[@ralphdayot9444]

Hi Vu. I contacted sigma. They said they fixed the problem on the new lenses. They said any lens higher than serial code 5504xxxx has new sealing. But still holding on with my tamron. 🤣

[@innsvp]

Wonder if they really fixed

[@Donbros]

@@innsvp real fix would be mild redesign

[@timotmon]

Tamron 28-75 is the answer, not quite as sharp but still damn good.... and lighter than your sigma paper weight.

[@emjvideography]

I bought this lens because of you recommending it. After 3 months I got some dust in not a lot just a lil specs since I have VND on it. It’s also paired with my a7s3. After every shoot I just clean off any dust to keep it fresh

Yes, I had this problem too, thanks for sharing.

[@FowlEdge]

I almost bought this lens off your recommendation. BH was out of stock so I held off. Glad I did. Thanks for the update.

[@nVuFilms]

🤙

[@elastvd7503]

The dust on the sky really looks like dust on the sensor. I had a canon 17-55 f2.8 is usm previously that collected much more dust inside and never seen it on my pictures

[@rodrigokobayashi_]

The problem may be this ... I read a lot of things about this lens in several forums, and I saw all the cleaning videos about her on KZbin. And I also saw some reviews talking about that some users removed these metal parts, and they had no more dust problems. I realized that in one of the lenses had only one piece of metal, in another video they had two. I believe that these parts are to calibrate the front element in relation to the rest of the lens, and they probably leave spacing for dust. Anyone there who has removed these pieces noticed some depreciation in the quality of the photo?

[@rengokusats]

I can confirm the newer ones do not have the dust issue. I read some people with serial numbers shortly after 5504xxxx still have it but the new new ones are good

[@nVuFilms]

Just wait

[@johnpark8367]

I read somewhere that any lense after 55641775 is ok. I can`t remember where I read it.

[@gioortiz8459]

Any issues today? Debating between this and Tamron 28-75

[@gusjaramill0]

Yes... i have the same problem with dust in the lense. I did get this lense because of your review. Thanks for pointing this out. I was thinking I was just seeing things. I will reach out to sigma 🤞

[@nVuFilms]

👍❤️

[@13hubi13]

I just orded the Sony a7iii with that lens yesterday, I hope I will not get alot of dust inside. I also called sigma in Germany and they acted like they never heard of a dust problem with that lens and everything is fine..

[@nVuFilms]

👀👀👀👀

[@Jamison42166]

Does the sensor get dirtier than normal when using this lens?

[@batbear1142]

There is a Reddit thread with people talking about this as well, apparently any lens with serial number before 5504xxxx is prone to dust. While the updated ones are suppose to have an updated gasket to fix the issue. Is yours before or after the update? I was thinking about picking up this lens, but the dust is a killer for me.

[@mahdibashiri_]

What did you end up to do ?

[@seangray4512]

Cheers for the info. A 24-70 f/2.8 is on my next to get list, had my eye on this or the Samyang 24-70 f/2.8 as well, will probably wait a while to see if any issues happens with the Samyang.

[@swanstudios2018]

Thanks for the heads up! I was about to buy this lens... Pull out joke has me cracking up i can relate.

[@nVuFilms]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Miguel-mv2bs]

I was about to buy one. Thank you for this.

[@JakeHoffman4life]

Just ordered the lens, I've supported all your 24-70 DEEZ NUTZ vids in my research. I'll let ya know when the dust shows up!

[@nVuFilms]

🤙

[@fjzm9992]

How is it going?? I'm considering buying one, but also I'm afraid of dust !

[@JakeHoffman4life]

@@fjzm9992 beautiful. On my camera 80% of the time. Bokeh is magic

[@fjzm9992]

@@JakeHoffman4life Thank you!! Enjoy It!!

[@twinklearora3110]

@@JakeHoffman4life Hi are you facing dust issues ?

[@Fremen02]

I saw a video showing how to clean out that dust...its not very difficult. have you tried it?

[@nVuFilms]

No. And I'm not going to buy a $1000 lens I have to open up

[@TheTractorMan.]

So glad I found this. I was going to send in to a professional to have this done. You saved me $$$$!!!

[@jasonbreeze2000]

Thanks for the heads up as I was looking to buy this lens. 💪💪🍻🍻👊💥

[@nVuFilms]

👍

[@theautomationchannel6920]

Welling to see your review in the coming samyang 24-70 2.8.. It seems you have the only honest nuts on KZbin

[@nVuFilms]

If they send me one

[@thanyawong]

Does Sigma have plan to recall problem lot? If they can fix this problem with new production, they should take care all customers. Otherwise this matter will go around on internet forever.

[@RoyGregorio]

Do they not cover the DN under warranty?

[@nVuFilms]

No

[@daniello3691]

@@nVuFilms I preordered this lens when it first came out and had one of the early versions and yes, mine was a dusty mess. There is a fix for this. I got this fixed from Sigma in Ronkonkoma, NY for free under warranty. They cleaned all the dust and added some seal and replaced the ring on the lens where the serial number is. You actually end up with a new serial number after the fix and it's documented on the work order. Haven't had any issue with any dust since. If you have an earlier dusty copy and purchased it from an authorized Sigma dealer and have the receipt, they will fix it under warranty.

[@tqlla]

You need to use protection, if you dont want Dusty Nuts. I read that using a protector filter will protect you from dust inside the early models of this lens. Looking at the clean up videos, the dust is getting in at a gap caused by spacers. There are two places where the dust can get to that point. 1) The front ring which is just wedged in. A filter would stop dust from entering that way. 2) The back of the front element holder. I put electrical tape on mine, if you are brave'r, you can put some sealant around the back of the ring. 3) The final alternative would be to remove those spacers when you take the lens apart for cleaning, but the spacers must be there for a reason?

[@mrwashur1991]

The dust is from the extension tube extending and retracting. I’m not going to buy a sharp lens and then slap a shitty piece of glass on the front. Uv filters are trash and shouldn’t be on the front of good glass..

[@tqlla]

@@mrwashur1991 The dust is coming in from the back of the front lens element holder. Unfortunately, the first runs of this lens were just not sealed there.

[@mike_s_media]

So I've had my 24-70mm for about a year now and there's only two small specs in mine. Given that I'm using it for my woodworking channel and outdoors a lot of have to say that two small specs isn't bad. Maybe I got one of the updated ones? Who knows...

[@13hubi13]

What the reason for me was to still buy the lens is that many people in Fabebook comments told that they have the lens and there is a little bit of dust inside but it's never on the image when they shoot but I don't know.

[@nVuFilms]

If you shoot wide open f2.8

[@victorjones2681]

what happened to your microphone? sound got room echo effects...

[@nVuFilms]

My room is all hardwood floors. I need to install sound panels

[@Madnessinc]

Such a good content with a morning coffee! Nobody can beat that! Looking at my dusty nutz... well, not yet time for cleaning but yes, for that money and a name.... it should be better!

[@nVuFilms]

🤙

[@musicscenetoronto4944]

Does anyone know if the new Sigma 28-70mm has the same dust issues as this lens (Sigma 24-70mm Art lens) ?

[@hughsfilms]

i love this lens but ive already had 2 problems , theres play in the lens, not extending but if you hold the end of the lens you can tilt up up down and sideways its minimal but at that price should not do that . I have not dropped it and also noticed the dust inside i first assumed it was because of the play but now i see its a common problem . If they were to fix those 2 things i feel it would be an excelent lens

[@ronborkowski1721]

I want my money back Vu!!!! Yeah you where one of the first to review the Sig 24-70. No dust in mine yet. I have gotten some great shots with it no regrets. I use it as a beater lens beach, hiking to a water fall etc. places you don’t want to be switching out primes. I have a B+W protecting the front element so I can leave the cap off. I read somewhere that helps but I don’t see how. Well at least Sigma has a 3 year US warranty it’s a hassle but could get some more life out of it. You mention the Tamron and to my eyes that are all jacked up from watching your videos the sky in shots made with them look purple there is some kinda of color cast I really don’t like.

[@bryan-501]

The dust problem is why i'm hesitant in getting this lens

[@88Nick8]

Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 1,099.00 Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Lens 2,198.00 Has gone down 100.00 Better auto focus. 1k a big difference but that Sony 24-70 is spectacular. Save and get the Sony if you are thinking about it.

[@m0nztam0nk]

Wow…now my trusty tamron 2.8 zoom doesnt look as trash anymore…. Has handled over 3 years of use in wildest conditions with no issue…

[@definingslawek4731]

Why would it ever be trash? It's a good lens.

[@iTziLLUMY]

Can someone sue sigma over a faulty product? I remember when the nikon D600 had dust inside the body mirror and went to court. Hence why they came out with the the improved D610.

[@nVuFilms]

😂

[@milossavic9068]

Soo i wanted to pair sony a7iii with this lens, ur not recommend that option? I wanted to buy zoom lens but other option is 50 mm 1.8f and maybe 24mm. Any advice on first lens?

[@nVuFilms]

Its probably fine as the newer model probaby take in less dust and it shouldnt effect image

[@cavemanslens8499]

Sigma says that they have fixed the dust issue after model number 55040000, but I 've still got few visible dust inside. #dustynuts

[@nVuFilms]

I have not seen this said by sigma officially

[@cavemanslens8499]

@@nVuFilms So it must be some Dusty Nut Ass, spreading fake rumor. 😅 too bad I was happy, mine was clean nuts.

[@scampifingers]

Will you be doing a sigma 28-70mm f2.8 review/comparisson?

[@B-Moye]

Preciate the video!

[@nVuFilms]

🤙

[@paulmcwilliams8641]

I have an A7iv for use exclusively with my Sony 200 - 600, a lens that is supposed to be a good design for anti dust, because of its internal focussing and the combo has been permenantly connected to each other since purchase. I even wrapped the the gap between lens and camera with PTFE tape, because I have two other cameras for my other lenses. Yet the Sony sensor is still gets dust on it. I think that all Sony cameras must have a worm hole inside them and the dust teleports between dimensions.

[@nVuFilms]

There is always some dust even in the camera already before you even put the lens on. Regardless of camera brand. It's a part of owning a camera

[@paulmcwilliams8641]

@@nVuFilms I know this, but I checked lens and sensor before connecting them and I did a high F stop test before applying the PTFE tape. Last week I noticed a few spots when stopped down and after testing It looked as if the lens and camera had been connected to my vacuum cleaner.

[@Fifthimagez]

Great video Thanks for sharing bro I’ll just get the Tamron 17-28

[@bryan-501]

Bro thanks for this btw do you know if the sigma 3'0s that they released for the sony line is any better at not letting dust go in the lense? The sigma thrio: 56mm f1.4 30mm f1.4 16mm f1.4 Help please! with anyone who has had any experience.

[@nVuFilms]

These are good

[@musicscenetoronto4944]

Check the serial number of your lens. Anything below 5504xxxx doesn't have the upgraded weather sealing.

[@Madnessinc]

I have 553xxx and still have dust in it.

[@musicscenetoronto4944]

@@Madnessinc :(

[@aram.v]

There’s my guy 💪🏼😎

[@nVuFilms]

🤙

[@JIMMYSBN]

just bought mine...will be returned right away!

[@delriophotography]

it was frustrating when i saw it, it doesn't affect the photo but it's disappointing, I have the dust problem

[@nVuFilms]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@jasonlindquistmedia]

Yeah I have the 24-70 now along with 35 mm I got newer version of the 24-70 so if it gets dust in it, im def selling it getting somthing better.

[@6gwilliams]

I heard they changed the seals now and no more dust. Sigma has a long warranty so certainly get them to clean it out. So far I have no dust inside mine and love the IQ of the lens. Hey I had specks inside my new Sony 135mm f1.8 GM and also inside my new Sony 200-600mm f5.6-6.3 lens (likely from the manufacturing process). Sony cleaned and fully bench tested them and back to me in three days. I didn't stop recommending those lenses at all. You seem a little quick to change your tune about the lens. Love you other content, but don't turn against Sigma, they make some good gear and it saves us money, like their Sigma Art 85mm f1.4 DG DN and the Sigma 100-400mm. Cheers

[@nVuFilms]

Haven't seen any official word on it though

[@ju2705s]

I lost my confidence in Sigma lenses. This lens should be whether resistant and if dust came in, water could be easier. No thx.

[@michaelgondokusumo5336]

Thanks for this review….. Thanks God …. I do not replace my Tamron 28-75 f2.8 with Sigma 24-70 F2.8 …..

[@nVuFilms]

🤙

[@GRM42192]

Clean for free and a version 2 of this 24-70mm by now. As bad as I wanted to get this lense now I'm going to consider the tamron.

[@nowornevervdo]

THIS LENS IS AMAZING AUTOFOCUS IS FIRE, mega combo with Sonya7sIII, yes true i had to repaire this lens 2 already but so far so good,

[@TimandLauren]

Its your copy vu, I returned 2 sigma 24-70's because it had dust issues inside but on my third 24-70 ive had no dust issues luckily had it for a couple months now and still no dust tamron 28-75 is just as bad with dust as i sent that back too

[@sebastianriemer7499]

Thanks for the video. Helped me to withstand the purchase. Too bad though :-(

[@ChmielnoTV]

Thank you.

[@jamest353]

after watched your dust nuts, i searched and found ppl clean it by themselves. seems not to hard to clean it. why don't you make a DIY cleaning video lol. looks like i need to use dust nuts in no dust invirement

[@ExploreTravelTV]

dang, the more I see on the more I better save up for the Sony GM. I am still looking at one of the Sony cameras and will need glass too. Dang.

[@nVuFilms]

🤣

[@yashika4k223]

They are cleaning for free in Australia I got dust in, one month.

[@nVuFilms]

🤦‍♂️

[@glennparker8247]

How long ago was this? I was about to buy it today instead of the GM.

[@nVuFilms]

@@glennparker8247 u know .. some people tell me they "updated" the seals in the new models but I can't find anything official on it

[@glennparker8247]

@@nVuFilms I keep seeing the whole 'anything after 5504 serial number' is fine but I don't see sigma saying it

[@nVuFilms]

@@glennparker8247 exactly

[@NeenjaProdux]

Hey man, I watched some DIY cleaning tutorial for this lens... I'm actually thinking that it could be possible to mod the lens by implementing a sealing oring somewhere... I'd lkove if you could make a video like that! (don't have this lens yet and I'm really torn now that I saw your dusty nutz review haha, but... what do u think of my idea?)

[@sp1976]

Pubic hair dandruff lol. I’ll try to avoid dust with my version of this lens.

[@nVuFilms]

I hope so man

[@chrisseveris5126]

Dust is a common problem with this lens, it's not a cheap budget lens so when you are parting with €1000+ of your hard earned money you expect the lens to be sharp, accurate focusing and NO F@#king dust. Sigma need to recall these lens and refund not offer free cleaning

[@markm4263]

I bought this when it first came out and found 20 days later big chunks of dust inside. Took it back to the store and got a bunch of BS his lenses get dust in over time. Never go to that store again.

[@alexandereremin8483]

So I'm really stuсked, which standard zoom lens would you recommend now? Considering that in my region Tamron 28-75 ($780) vs Sigma 24-70 ($1500) vs Sigma 28-70 ($1100) and I'm using Sony a7c pretty much all of them going to be front heavy. I really like that sigma Art offer extra 24-28mm, smother focusing rings (cuz I like to manual focus from time to time) and extra buttons... is it worth over its dust problem(which can be solved with always-on uv-filter and for the most time I'll use f2.8-5.6 anyway), weight and size?

[@nVuFilms]

28-70 sig

[@alexandereremin8483]

@@nVuFilms Thank you for the reply! The only thing I'm a bit skeptical about sigma 28-70 is that its not fully dust/water resistant and its relatively new.

[@Alexrocks1253]

@@alexandereremin8483 do the Tamron then. Better weather sealing and cheaper

[@KoelAnderson]

Dusty nuts 😭 Dust scares me when it come to lenses and sensors lol

[@nVuFilms]

👀🤣

[@sonicvboom]

Could it be that you're having dust issues with the Sigma lens due to the *nature* of the extending lens barrel? Perhaps your Sigma primes negated this problem because their lens do *not* have a barrel that extends?

[@konradmaximilian3037]

I had dust my sigma 24-70. I send it back and they send me a new copy. No problem with the new copy.

[@Don_XII]

how about now?

[@konradmaximilian3037]

@@Don_XII I sold my sony equipment 3 months ago as I had a good deal for R5. But didn't notice any dust inside at that time.

[@KLOCinematics]

Damn.. only reason why i didnt go for a Sigma 24 - 70 is cause sigma lenses are heavy AF. I went with the Got Money lens even tho im broke as hell 😂

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

I wanna see this sigma vs the new Samyang

[@ruchirsajwan]

That’s why I just ordered Samyang 24-70

[@TheManifestationMovement]

"DN no longer stands for Deez Nuts" ::heart sinks::

[@nVuFilms]

🤦‍♂️😂😭😭

[@hughsfilms]

DN stands for dusty nuts hahaha

[@TomatenDK]

So what was the truth about the dust problem ??? Click baited 🙈😂

[@zayarnaung5209]

i do have a lot of dust in this len too. hahah

[@thebandit4393]

This video shows how to take it apart for cleaning. Doesn't look too hard. Might just be a maintenance need for this lens, like cleaning your sensor. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZikYox8odh2m7s

[@helmsproductions689]

I just ordered Deez Nuts lens.

[@kevinesam]

That’s not gud. I got mine after your recommendation

[@nVuFilms]

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[@CharlieVN]

So far so good with the 28-70, maybe sigma learned their lesson, knock on wood.

[@nVuFilms]

👀👀

[@KeepingThisTech]

Dusty nuts!! 🤣🤣

[@nVuFilms]

lol

[@KeepingThisTech]

@@nVuFilms Vu- I might have missed it.. if you’ve addressed this in other videos but aside from the weight, size & price of the 24-70GM, what don’t you like about it??

[@nVuFilms]

@@KeepingThisTech that's it. It's just bigger and heavier.

[@dredoesstuffdds5029]

The pubic hair dandruff leaves a bad taste in your mouth?

[@nVuFilms]

👀

[@junichinomura4810]

nice dusty nut lenses you have, my sigma 24-70mm have dust but not that much like yours lol

[@A.M03]

Sold mine but yep dusty. Sold because I switched camera brand.

[@RodrigoZadroFilms]

Dis dust! :))))

[@lonnygraham54]

It not your fault it sigma problem

[@Visualxposed]

Maybe you shoot in a lot of dusty nut locations😂

[@nVuFilms]

Yea since weddings are so dusty

[@barbertherapy220]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nVuFilms]

🤙

[@34OLD]

Well clean your gear more often idk what to tell you bruh

[@nVuFilms]

I do. I can't clean dust inside the effing lens. No other lens I own have this kind of dust

[@ivedigga]

Bro you spent almost 12 minutes talking about Dust in a lens before calling the folks, good lord 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@nVuFilms]

Your mom wasted a day giving birth to you.

[@ashmaterial]

@@nVuFilms gottem