That cross process surprised me how well that worked. That looks almost just like regular slide film. Amazing vid as always!
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
That was the biggest surprise for me. I figured it would fare better than regular C41, but I didn't expect this.
@psajgal3 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom Didn't you have a vid about printing film on film? I can't seem to find the video now, but this seems like the perfect stock no?
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2ivknmJrKdjbac I didn't even think about it. It would be worth a shot.
@psajgal3 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom Oh yeah forgot you had that aero attempt in there. Could be awesome. Keep it up dude, this channel is dope!
@VVatnik3 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom dude, can you give any numbers on developing it at box speed in e6? I just wanna try it too
@Monthlychore3 жыл бұрын
The moment you show the cross processed film in e6 with box speed, my brain is like wowwww
@timo37982 жыл бұрын
In the future I expect a book by you called "experimental film photography" or something with the best pictures taken during those crazy experiments and the second it comes out I'm going to own one!! Nice work!
@maxrownes7914 Жыл бұрын
I would 100% buy this book if it ever were to come out
@riooooooooooooooooooo Жыл бұрын
^ absolutely
@Austrianman117 ай бұрын
If should be called "so then I trichromed it"
@williamwylde70823 жыл бұрын
Now you have negative film with a clear (ish) base, do you think you will retry your DIY Aerochrome?
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I might have to revisit that.
@ale_s453 жыл бұрын
It's almost like it was intended to work with both type of developments
@keisisqrl3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know that, that’s cool
@ale_s453 жыл бұрын
@@keisisqrl I'm not sure, it's just an hypothesis
@gregfaris69592 жыл бұрын
The "Silberra" film is almost certainly either a Kodak or Agfa aerial maskless color negative film, cut down and rebranded. The lack of the color mask easily explains why these results show less true, less saturated colors. The color mask improves separation at exposure, leading to much better colors. Aerial film lacks this mask, to make it more "readable" directly from the negative, but it makes it less suitable for regular color photography on the ground.
@lapoupadotcom Жыл бұрын
I just finished a roll TODAY of SantaColor 100 (which, as I learned 10 minutes ago, is probably the same film as Silberra Color 100) with the intention of processing in E-6, and I did overexpose it two stops (EI 25)... little did I know it would only make my life harder and my photos worse... Loved the look of bleach bypass in this film, by the way. Thanks for these inspiring wacky experiments!
@arachnenet22443 жыл бұрын
For some reason, that redscaled roll looks spectacular to me! And that crossprocessed stuff was just mindblowing. I need to give this a go someday..
@mariohirotoshi2 жыл бұрын
I think that Santa Color 100 might fit well in these experiments as well! Great video once again
@reverseddthinking12803 жыл бұрын
what the heck, the true two-in-one film 😳😳
@janmelantu74903 жыл бұрын
You could shoot half a roll as C-41 and the other half as E-6 👀 👀 👀
@АрсеньСавін3 жыл бұрын
These negatives look pretty much like ones produced by Kodak Aerocolor IV 2460. Aerocolor is lacking integral color mask layer, thus producing more of a transparent and not so brown-hued negative, also, thinner one.
@AleksUsovich3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to pick some up and try shooting it as a slide but with a 81a or 81b filter and see if it'll look more traditional slides. Or possibly even try using a CPL filter. Having just picked up 30 some 120 rolls of Velvia 100 for near the price of a slightly used kidney, I'd love to try something possibly cheaper.
@deeranfoxworthy60693 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked the bleach bypass look and the cross processing. Haven't seen others bleach bypass as I too mainly shoot b&w. Very cool results!
@JoeyShip2 жыл бұрын
This video was the reason I bought a few rolls of this film. I loved the negatives so much.
@BadFlashes3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the cross process looks pretty good! Wish I’d tried it … dope vid
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I really appreciate it. Love your channel btw!
@GregoryVeizades3 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom im now going to cross process a roll of my Silberra in my Labs E6 machine whose chemisty is super stable.
@BadFlashes3 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom of course! Love how you do crazy things! I’m totally into it :) And thanks! ☺️
@jonnoMoto3 жыл бұрын
That's quite surprising results. Quite liked the bleach bypass result
@CaptainPsychopath693 жыл бұрын
I love your mad scientist approach to film 👍
@jednewman4303 жыл бұрын
This was the first of your videos to show up in my sub box. Good stuff, I knew it would be worth subscribing
@riffraffselbow3 жыл бұрын
My initial impression looking at those slides is the the silberra color 100 is wholesale slide film being sold as color negative.
@sonygoup3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for this everywhere for 2-3 years now. Since it was 35mm lol. I'm Trinidad and Tobago and I need some lol
@Al_Bx3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap the cross process looks GREAT!
@kokochromeh78993 жыл бұрын
honestly all looked super cool
@FantastikSever3 жыл бұрын
I just binge watched all your videos, awesome content. Loved it.
@johnkaplun9619 Жыл бұрын
Man I wish this was still available
@baptistehenry89973 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, please keep doing them
@koltinn Жыл бұрын
They've released production version of this now, wonder if it's different than the old limited stock.
@crystal.machinery3 жыл бұрын
Yayy new video!
@Dan-TechAndMusic3 жыл бұрын
The fact it did so well as a slide film makes me want to get some. I do wonder how long Silberra's color line will last, given they're all "limited edition", while Silberra's not being fully clear if this is just an old bunch of film, or something still being made today (Kodak Aerocolor, maybe?). I love shooting slides, I don't love the price of slide film, and while Silberra Color films are not terribly cheaper, I'd happily save a few bucks by shooting it as E6 film for stuff I can't justify using Provia, Velvia or Ektachrome for.
@jonnoMoto3 жыл бұрын
It's old agfa aero film.
@VVatnik3 жыл бұрын
As i read on russian website of the shop directly connected to the people behind Silberra, they are going to continue production of that line of film, in case of demand. First limeted edition film is over (only 2000 rolls were made or so), but where are second or third production butch already in stock. And, as i guess, demand is high enough for continuation.
@garynych952 жыл бұрын
It is Kodak Aerocolor
@vonantero94583 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see how it reacts to the b/w developer + c41 process reversal shenanigans
@lawrenceanderson2741 Жыл бұрын
The E6 examples give me sight Kodachrome II Vibes. With their propensity toward Brownish Reddish Colours.
@vimerveilles3 жыл бұрын
Damn thats a gr8 results for cross process
@pashok0079113 жыл бұрын
its pretty similar to Kodak Aerocolor cause it also doesnt have orange base probably Silberra = repackaged Aerocolor
@mgouat3 жыл бұрын
Some kind of aero film likely. It seems that in that world they were willing to trade color accuracy for extra bit of speed.
@VVatnik3 жыл бұрын
Still hasn't tried it, despite the fact it is literally produced in my city. Also it's good to know it's such well suited for cross process, thanks for the video. Guess, it will be my next roll:)
@sabscientists25283 жыл бұрын
I wonder if any. tock could be dual reversal negative films out there if the orange base wasn't there like, how goddamn cool is this!
@fritzstorp83573 жыл бұрын
what are you scanning with? scans are really clean for home scans! Maybe a video a comparing ways to scan and filters etc
@paprycjusz73 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried to trichrome bw positives?
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
Not yet, but it's on the list!
@AeromaticXD3 жыл бұрын
That cross processed film looks quite nice!
@gadler84823 жыл бұрын
this is pretty cool
@mgouat3 жыл бұрын
Different color negatives give different casts in E6. Some have yellow, but quite a few have blue, cyan or green cast and there's usually some curve crossover. The negative mask, mostly salmon, is visible usually only in blown highlights. Two stops overexposure its way to high for much of negs I've tried in E6. I guess this idea comes from trying to save shadow detail but this will fail anyway.
@gusatvoschiavon3 жыл бұрын
how well can you push the film? like 400, 800? 6400??
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
For me pushing color film is about as fun as a trip to the dentist. Although it would be interesting to see how far you can push C41 film.
@MichaelXX22 жыл бұрын
This stuff isn't a "new" film stock per se. It's repackaged Kodak Aerocolor aero film. Buying it in bulk and re-rolling it in standard 35mm rolls is wildly popular in Russia for whatever reason, and it has cropped up a few times in the past under a few different names. I shot it once in 2016 as "Svema Color 125." Definitely a unique look. Agfa Aviphot is another aero stock that used to get repackaged a lot, but it's been out of production since 2004 or so, and old frozen stock is drying up. I used to shoot it as "Rollei Digibase CN200" quite a bit back in the day. The lack of an orange base was always quite striking.
@SinaFarhat3 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@fredtech7763 жыл бұрын
bleach bypassed images are really cool!
@brunof19963 жыл бұрын
I usually hate the look of redscale, but your shots in this roll look very very good.
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
Same. Usually redscale has more orange and yellow with a hint if green. This is just aggressively red, and I like that.
@technol-bismol37783 жыл бұрын
Cat: “Feed Me” Also my cats lmao
@allys5373 жыл бұрын
how about a video about turning a color negative into a positive by taking a picture of it with negative film, like one with a clear base or proper filtering, to get a positive image. I know that Kodak 2383 doesn't work for that (tried it), but I don't know of too many other stocks that are internegative or interpositive films. I want to take my negatives and get a "slide" akin to what they do with motion pictures.
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
I've attempted that before with meh results. But I think it would be worth revisiting with this film stock. It might make some interesting photos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2ivknmJrKdjbac
@allys5373 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom I was looking at my roll of 2383 and I noticed there was edge markings, but backwards, it reads * 2383 562 205 1 20 KODAK 12 2004 D, so it's obviously expired, and the fact that they are mirrored may mean it may have to be exposed backwards.
@grejuli973 жыл бұрын
What happens when you develop color neg film with b/w chemicals? Have you done a video about that?
@dylangergutierrez3 жыл бұрын
You can get an image out of it, in B&W obviously, and it still retains its orangy mask. A few freaks use Portra as a B&W film
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
You bet I tried that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGeThJ2ZdtiSpq8
@grejuli973 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom thank you so much! I love your videos!
@lolomg422 жыл бұрын
Red scale + E6? 🤔
@forevernotjohn2 жыл бұрын
Can you redscale 120 by just spooling it on the opposite side?
@atticdarkroom2 жыл бұрын
You would need to peel the film off the backing paper, flip it around, and restick it onto the backing paper.
@forevernotjohn2 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom just watched your video where you did it. Seems intimidating
@atticdarkroom2 жыл бұрын
It's not too difficult once you get the hang of it. I'd suggest trying it on a test roll in the light before using a real roll. Or if you're just interested in 120 redscale, Lomo sells 120 redscale. From my experience redscale pretty much looks the same regardless of emulsion (with the exception of weirdo emulsions like Lomo Purple)
@forevernotjohn2 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom noted. Thank you
@therestorationofdrwho18652 жыл бұрын
Could you also try this with Silberra 160?
@atticdarkroom2 жыл бұрын
I might if I could get my hands on some, but given the current situation I can't imagine any being available any time soon.
@tonyzhu4033 жыл бұрын
What are the chances these are slide film in nature? Very interesting.
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
That's a really good question. Most "normal" E6 film cross processed in C41 comes out extremely contrasty and heavily skews green/yellow. But I wouldn't be surprised this was some oddball emulsion too. It's definitely something to think about.
@mgouat3 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom Really the cast in cross processed slide is only relative to standard scanning/printing settings. The objectively existing thing is contrast and curve crossover.
@mgouat3 жыл бұрын
Hard to really judge from a video but it doesn't look like a slide, they usually seem way more dense.
@milesmonroe652 жыл бұрын
This stuff is surely rebranded slide film. Shirley?
@EstelonAgarwaen2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the copy negative thing with it?
@atticdarkroom2 жыл бұрын
Not yet, but it's on the list of things I need to try.
@vimerveilles3 жыл бұрын
Have you developed color neg in bw?
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
Sure did. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGeThJ2ZdtiSpq8
@ThePhotoDept3 жыл бұрын
Dude this rules.
@bul20122 жыл бұрын
Сейчас (на момент написания комментария) проявил пленки silberra color 100 и 50. Когда достал из баченка Paterson негативы, извините, немного прихуел... Синие негативы!!!! Аааа, я поймал панику, думал где же я ошибся при проявке???? Вроде нигде... Температуру держал 24 градуса ± 0.5, химия для проявки уже была проверена на kodak gold, и там все вышло очень хорошо.... А оказывается у них "розовая подложка"... Фууууух.... Жду когда высохнет пленка чтоб отсканировать 😄
@honghanguyenthi87543 жыл бұрын
Hey, you should red scale BW film then trichrome or red scale c41 film then develop it in BW that would be awesome!
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
You cant redscale b&w film. It only works because color film has multiple dye layers. With b&w you just end up with a flipped image. But developing redscale in b&w is really interesting. I wonder if it'll have the same or similar effect as shooting through a red filter. I'll have to try this. Thanks for the suggestions!
@honghanguyenthi87543 жыл бұрын
@@atticdarkroom I did a bit of researching and I came across a forum on Flickr talking about redscale BW film (c41 BW film) and I saw a guy said who said that shooting backward on BW film (possibly high iso film, such as Ilford Delta 3200), and using aluminum foil on the film pressure plate leading to a similar Infrared film result. I don't know man. Maybe, you should try it, it looks like a very interesting (Aka dumb) idea. Putting aluminum foil on the film pressure plate?? ( maybe try it with normal then redscale or trichrome it) Thank you so much for answering my dumb comment.
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
I've heard of people putting foil on the pressure plate, and its something I definitely want to try. Thanks for reminding me, I'll have to try it soon.
@hattree3 жыл бұрын
It's funny, the E6 shots to me look like some color negatives I've scanned from the 1960's.
@AMTunLimited2 жыл бұрын
Those cross processed shots kinda look like old polaroids
@NOVAKINYT3 жыл бұрын
YEAH FUJI 😠😠😠
@Monthlychore3 жыл бұрын
wowwwwwwwwww
@v-g-z36892 жыл бұрын
Damn, if cross processsing in e-6 works with the 135 version as well...
@therestorationofdrwho18652 жыл бұрын
I’d love this in super 8 form if it meant it’s cheaper.
@jakewestbrook32143 жыл бұрын
Yea... now I want to order some more silbera color film just to mess with my e6 lab
@horatiueduard3 жыл бұрын
So you probably bought all the available rolls from Silberra. I actually really like the Silberra Color 160.
@artsyaidan3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if this whole stock is a rebranded cheap/slightly expired slide film sold as C41 (not unlike limo metropolis)
@melody3741 Жыл бұрын
How tf did you look at the only nee color film release in forever and be like “meh” I don’t CARE IF ITS ONLY OKAY IT MEANS PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON ITn
@MakersTeleMark2 жыл бұрын
Can you produce a meaningful photograph?
@atticdarkroom2 жыл бұрын
No.
@melody3741 Жыл бұрын
HOLY FUCK
@BetamaxFlippyАй бұрын
"Oh cool! I wanna get some and cross-process it-" >russian film stock welp, not getting that shipped right now are we
@Danilixo103 жыл бұрын
2:37 h ol yy sh i t
@elainezzz3 жыл бұрын
ok now put it in rodinol
@theo_korner2 жыл бұрын
good luck getting russian film now ...
@pretendwewerekissing23773 жыл бұрын
i love your videos sm !! would you ever experiment with film soups?
@atticdarkroom3 жыл бұрын
Personally not a big fan of film soups so I won't experiment with it any time soon, but that doesnt mean I will never do it. Just not right now.