Silent Hunter 4 Ep9: Fall of the Dutch East Indies

[@frederiknielsen6038]

Good news! Despite the great sucess of our mk 14 torpedos, we at the Bureau of Ordnance have been hard at work developing a new and improved wakeless electric torpedo. Unfortunately development has hit a bit of a snag, as no one seems to be able to agree on what the new weapon should be called. The leadership of BuOrd is currently split between either mk 18 or mk 14-2 electric boogaloo. However, as soon as this issue has been resolved, the new torpeods will be ready for service.

[@Schmitty201]

i just found your channel a couple off days ago and couldent stop watching this series after, and i must say this is the best silent hunter series i have ever seen. Wolfpak345 does some very good stuff but this is so awsome! i love the story telling about the period and the armorment/technical aspect of the equpment used. Keep up the amazing videos! and good hunting :)

[@ryanbarrows2592]

Agree! I love Wolfpack but Devin takes it to another level.

[@littledidio99]

I agree with the pair of you!!

[@DavidKing-ph8or]

Agreed. Devin has the most under rated channel on YT IMO - I love all his stuff :-)

[@PolishMuscle1981]

Just found your channel, and I love watching your SH4 exploits. Growing up, I loved playing Silent Service on the NES with my dad as well as PTO Pacific Theater of Operations. SH4 is the grown up version of that game. Very excited to watch your videos!

[@lagottooperator4336]

The excitement at seeing a new SH4 episode from this channel almost rivals finding a new WWII submarine movie I had not seen yet when I was a little kid!! FANTASTIC content, Devin!! Keep it up and good hunting in the South Pacific!!

[@donnapotato805]

Actually Ice Cream machines were not added on submarines as standard equipment by the navy. Most were installed by crews and frequently broke down. This according to the book by Edward Beach and his experiences on the USS Trigger. One of the benefits of lifeguarding, picking up downed flyers, was the aircraft carrier rewarding the submarine with 50 gallons of ice cream when returning the flyer.

[@BooneFinn]

Yes! This made my day! Your SH4 content in my opinion is by far the best out there - perfect blend of narrated story and the real history snippets coming together creating a unique flow 😎

[@DavidKing-ph8or]

Excellent work again Dev! Very interesting to hear your views on the ice cream machine and the AC. I had read somewhere that the AC was primarily to protect the electrics of the boat, with crew comfort a secondary consideration, and that is what I believed for years. Brilliant that you found actual documentation that clearly states that was not the case. Which makes perfect sense now that I think about it. Like you said, the sub is a weapons delivery system, it's whole purpose is to get the torpedoes to where they need to be, and deliver them to the enemy in an efficient and effective manner. ANYTHING that makes this process more efficient and effective is a prime consideration! And that definitely includes crew comfort and efficiency. PS You lucky lucky lucky SOB! Years I been playing this game and only sunk one or 2 heavy cruisers . . . you get 3 in just a few episodes :-) Good hunting my friend, and please do keep[ up the excellent work, I am absolutely loving this series 👍

[@devinhorner2358]

I know, I can't believe it either. I've never had such luck before, I'm so glad it's happening while I'm recording it!

[@tommaxwell3469]

I miss this series so much I'm watching it again!

[@nikbear]

Fantastic mission, excellent history lesson, simply the best Silent Hunter experience on KZbin, can not wait for the next installment 👍

[@cmdrchilperic6706]

This series is just AWESOME! Thought about SH4 yesterday (played it like ten years ago, but was rather incompetent), looked for gameplay videos, found your SH4 playlist, and couldn't stop watching. How do you manage to even get the story more exciting from episode to episode?! And another great thing: not only my intitial questions about SH4, but also about historical details get answered - apparently no need to google anything, as it seems I can expect you to adress all upcoming topics anyway. This is just excellent work, and I can't wait for the next episode!

[@peterallen4605]

Best SH4 series out there. Just found the channel, and I'm addicted to this series.

[@joeakash129]

Excellent documentary and fantastic gameplay. Thanks for making top notch contents, Captain!

[@ronaldnickell6110]

The submarines had chlorine detectors to sense any gas emitted from the batteries in case of a rupture of their case. As you might guess the last thing you want is chlorine gas going throughout the submarine.

[@devinhorner2358]

That would be less than ideal, yes

[@Saberjet1950]

On the AC. Remember, the Navy considers you equipment.

[@angrypandaification]

The history sections are just as interesting as the gameplay... I really like your personal reflections, and how they relate to the video's content... It's just awesome, great video as usual.

[@richgweil]

Amazing video! I have learned to watch the whole thing before commenting, ever since the "Crazy Convoy Rampage" episode, but I was very interested in the "ice cream" section, and the stuff about the prisoners.

[@juno1915]

Really love this series. I listen to this to learn while at work sometimes.

[@OgamiItto70]

36:43 "...You can see there, we dropped down to 1 knot with the one-third..." Actually, no, I _don't_ see a knotmeter. Is it even on the screen in these KZbin videos? I can see all kinds of other data, but not the boat's own speed.

[@jamesclark4809]

Great stuff as always brother. I really enjoy the history and content. Speaking of lucky I was finishing my 1st patrol coming back to Manila and ran into a Task force with two battleships. I manage to sink one Kongo class for 32ooo tons. I couldn't believe it. Thanks for posting really enjoying your channel.

[@devinhorner2358]

Wow! That is lucky! Great job bagging that one. I hope we get a shot at a battleship here in the series.

[@ToastytheG]

@@devinhorner2358 F L A T T O P S

[@lastcartridge]

when you cut back to the lead boat & her nose was up in the air I audbly went "oh wow!" to an empty room. way to go!!

[@devinhorner2358]

Ha! I love when I exclaim out loud to a video. I'm glad you felt so invested in the story!

[@ryanbarrows2592]

I was an STS on a 688i in the early 90's and the AC was quite adequate. In fact I loved to have a bunk near the loud vents in berthing, it made falling asleep easier.

[@devinhorner2358]

And then you wake up if the noise stops!

[@maxjohnson5388]

I'm really enjoying your SH4 series, so much so that I bought the game. I like your explanatory asides, and then everyone back on the bus. Lots more please! Max (Heysham, England).

[@7511232]

Excellent video, I really learn a lot of naval history from your videos. Well done!

[@johanalitalo8331]

Found the channel few days ago. Good series and storytelling, please continue.

[@haydenc2742]

So awesome...put those two heavies on the bottom...they won't be bothering anyone anymore! Such good shooting with those torpedos! Keep em coming!!!!

[@mikeymack6852]

This is incredibly well done... again. Thank you.

[@seanquigley3605]

Great commentary and product....your getting better with every episode. I noticed something on your last patrol with the S boat and now the P boat. It seems the game is historically accurate as far as events go like the landings at Balikpan and the Battle of the Java sea. You may consider pausing and checking a Naval History book about the time and area your being sent into so you have even better luck. Consider it like having access to the Ultra Code.

[@devinhorner2358]

Indeed! I knew the game gives radio notifications that big battles had happened, but this is the first time I've seen the actual fleets represented in the correct areas. That's the mod at work.

[@tefras14]

Man i love this series

[@frederiknielsen6038]

I find it a bit strange that so many Japanese warships seemingly sail around with their gangways down. Perhaps they hope to board and defeat US ships in glorious melee combat.

[@devinhorner2358]

LOL Did not Sun Tzu say, "Attack your enemies where they least expect it"?

[@TheMinisterofDefence]

The AC and ice cream machine info. was very interesting. Good video.

[@richardwylie07]

This really is first class content. Thank you Devin.

[@ToastytheG]

This man's voice is golden for sleeping. I've watched this 4 times already after work but fall asleep 15 minutes in every time. Trying to watch the whole thing this time. Oh well, more views for Devin! Cheers m8, keep up the great content!!

[@devinhorner2358]

haha hope you make it this time

[@ToastytheG]

@@devinhorner2358 Nope didn't make it. Long weekend tho so this time 👌 BTW, I could absolutely see a huge niche for your content amongst history fans. Cheers!

[@TarnishUK]

Quite so, just like Sir David Attenborough! ;o)

[@CrimsonThunderSB]

37:00 very good, there seems to not be too many people who understand the angle of bow should be aligned to reflect the contact's course, that provides more accuracy...i think i should get back to eventually doing silent hunter 4 on my own channel. Please finish the entire campaign, this is actually enjoyable, and i hope you can eventually see some of my content too :)

[@genegross2252]

uss Cod based in cleveland ohio put prisoners in a space under the mess table, and they stayed there until unloaded.

[@devinhorner2358]

Wow! Pretty crazy, but I guess you put 'em wherever there's room!

[@genegross2252]

@@devinhorner2358 they used to have boy scout troops spend a night in the cod, they would stand watch as if they where in the navy, and get to sleep in the cots. if your in cleveland take a look and let them know who you are, they will tell you about some of the patrols.

[@devinhorner2358]

@@genegross2252 Videos of the Cod have shown up in my recommended list recently (Probably from uploading all these sub videos). Looks like she recently got a big overhaul. It would be fun to check it out someday. Battleship Cove in Massachusetts has also forever been a Boy Scout overnight destination, though on the battleship itself, not the Lionfish.

[@edicius9836]

That lifeboat hitting the sub sounding like an escort rammed you (((:

[@donnapotato805]

I hope you continue this career save, you started out with quite the bang.

[@SIXPACFISH]

Plus a cheap ice cream machine was much easier than forcing Officers to treat their men like actual human beings instead of slaves.

[@Ihfarmer23]

Definitely need to keep this going love it love it 👍🏻

[@Achdoemaarwat]

Hope you get around to continuing this series!

[@jasonvega9942]

wow!

[@TarnishUK]

Wow! You are on a roll! Three Takaos inclusive of last time! Now I need an ice cream! :-)

[@devinhorner2358]

Yeah, man, I've never had such luck in a campaign before lol. I'm so glad that I happened to be recording this.

[@TarnishUK]

I've had plenty of encounters with juicy targets like that but more often than not they're simply out of reach and steaming at full or flank speed leaving me unable to intercept. Really good to see it come together for you while doing this series. 🙂

[@devinhorner2358]

@@TarnishUK yeah, my experience also. Big interesting targets just tantalizingly over the horizon

[@tspencer227]

Wow, such great information about how the demographics of the Navy changed so rapidly, and why. I had no idea about that, but it makes a LOT of sense. Also, it needs to be pointed out that Josephus Daniels, Secretary of the Navy 1913-1921 was also responsible for spurring a successful racist insurrection 15 years earlier in Wilmington, North Carolina, leading to the overthrow of duly elected black government in that city. Great information there on sub rescues- I do believe Mr. Collins would've been what we called a "hot runner." Nice to hear an aviator was actually earning their keep while being a passenger! ;)

[@devinhorner2358]

Interesting, I didn't know that about Daniels but its not surprising, unfortunately.

[@tspencer227]

@@devinhorner2358 I'm FROM North Carolina, and didn't learn that until about 7 years ago. Go figure. It's also one of the reasons why he no longer has a building named after him on my university's campus (here in his hometown).

[@jefferynelson]

Still enjoying your series !!

[@ricardoanderson12]

Excelent video ! Congratulations

[@nickolaychaschyn846]

Very immersive content. Please do more!

[@stokerboiler]

Gotta like the stories. Puts some flesh on the skeleton of a game.

[@ditzy_neko3362]

Devin, great to see more SH4 content from you! i hang on to every minute and story . As you know i also play in the same time period. I have a question though: everyone has always told me that i should never fire torpedoes if they would have to turn more than a few degrees from 0, the way my tube is pointed. You blew my mind getting hits with for AND aft tubes without tons of maneuvering to make a straight line shot. have i been lied to? Can you basically broadside torpedo attack from a parallel course? how far can a mk10 and mk14 torpedo turn away from the boat and still expect to hit a target?

[@devinhorner2358]

Great question! I think this would be a good topic to talk about in an episode. Torpedo guidance at the time wasn’t always reliable, so minimizing gyro angle minimized malfunction or calculation errors. I think the Mark 14s can turn up to an angle of +/- 140 degrees off course, with the Mark 10s slightly less. In the game, when you look at the Torpedo management page, the stats actually include that information. The Submarine Torpedo Fire Control Manual (1950), section 810, tells us that shots with gyros less than 30 are “straight shots” while those over 30 degrees are “curved shots” and that: “The greatest advantage of straight fire (small gyro angles) is that errors in torpedo run have no appreciable effect on the solution. Therefore, when the range is inaccurate, as in stadimeter and telemeter scale approaches, the submarine must maneuver for a small gyro angle shot.” Conversely, curved shots lead to greater torpedo course errors and are not recommended when accurate ranges are not available, because of the greater chance for misses or mechanical failure. A turning torpedo can jam its guidance and circle back on the firing sub. I’ve had this happen in the game, though it is quite rare. Having said that, it still all depends on the skipper and the tactical situation. Both German and American subs sometimes used the method of paralleling targets, usually for surfaced, longer-range night attacks on convoys. Here’s the link to the manual if you want to take a real deep dive (pun intended): maritime.org/doc/attack/index.htm

[@ditzy_neko3362]

Oh sweet. Thank you. I'll give this a read and i can't wait for your next episode!

[@180mph9]

What a great episode 👍🏽

[@JimmyBlonde]

I guess they couldn't produce enough icecream for POWs

[@ToastytheG]

Imagine how demoralizing it would be to have a bunch of roundeye chads eating banana splits and cheering as they cruise around and pump fish into your own ships lmao

[@ToastytheG]

1 dislike from a japanese cruiser helmsman...

[@jefferynelson]

25:07 you could be a DJ on an elevator with tunes like this

[@Jukebocks]

They just keep coming!

[@richardwylie07]

Can’t wait for the next one.

[@Vassilli42]

Great video and love the history about the ice cream machines. Also, since you talked about POWs, I'd like to ask what are your views surrounding the controversy of allied submarines attacking smaller unarmed craft such as sam­pans and junks with deck guns in the later stages of the war or about the actions of the USS Wahoo during their 3rd war patrol?

[@devinhorner2358]

The US strategy was to starve out an island nation, so I think that made sinking Japan's fishing vessels a primary part of the war effort. I suppose the idea of it being controversial or not circles back to the arguments for and against submarine warfare at all, which dated back to WWI when subs were viewed by many as pirates or murderers rather than honorable combatants. As to whether it was fair or not, the Japanese had themselves been sinking small unarmed inter-island ferries around Hawaii since the opening day of the war, so in the end all countries were on equal moral ground. The Wahoo incident is very complex and machine gunning survivors is an interesting topic so I'll probably be dedicating an entire in-game report on it.

[@Vassilli42]

@@devinhorner2358 Thank you for your response and will gladly keep watching to see your report on the incident.

[@DerredmaxTRIAX]

So good! Thank you Devin!!!

[@TPaine1776]

The AC in my coup was horrible so big fans sufficed.

[@AmatureAstronomer]

Treats are called pogey bait.

[@noisycosmos]

Awesome episode!

[@Marginalis.mp3]

can you do a tutorial on how to install the mods you use, i tried just by following the instructions in the links u provided but my game wouldnt even launch, had to reinstall

[@devinhorner2358]

It can be a real pain. I often have to look up a video myself to remember how it works. Here's one that I think I used, maybe you would find it helpful: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqXIlXirj5Jle9k Its for a different mod but the steps are the same

[@Marginalis.mp3]

@@devinhorner2358 thanks a lot

[@BWIENS789]

At 48:46 could have swore you were going to surface and machine gun the life boats

[@anthonydolan3740]

Huzzah!

[@W4lkerWings]

This isn't a Thunderchief...?

[@jasonthomas9596]

So are you continuing this series?

[@user-nc7jt7fi3u]

: )

[@orangeglass8091]

Umm... new episode will be when?

[@orangeglass8091]

Still waiting

[@rodrigogoncalves6165]

Is there a japanese campaign on the most recent SH4 Mod?

[@devinhorner2358]

I don't know much about the other mods, so I couldn't tell you. There might be a Japanese-specific mod out there.

[@rodrigogoncalves6165]

@@devinhorner2358 It would be interesting if you could play either as a japanese or italian sub. Can you imagine playing with the I400 or even the Surcouf?

[@demerjr8097]

Have you tried the game UBOAT? recomend?

[@devinhorner2358]

I don't know much about it, myself. I know that Wolfpack has a series where he shows it off so I'd check that out to see if you like it

[@muhammads.a.m4727]

Do you play Silent hunter 5.??

[@robinmottart3859]

To the bottom!!!

[@matthewspindler2665]

I swear the quick mission last target was put in as a joke ive literally tried everything day attack night attack and put as many as 8 torpedos and a full 50 rounds of high explosive deck gun shots and countless aa rounds into the yamato and even with it taking on water enough to put it sitting on bottom of harbor it isnt able to sink and still destroys me with the foward guns even tried to get right up against it to stay out of guns ability to target does not work

[@rosareyes7036]

Devin horner did you have an discord server?

[@devinhorner2358]

Not yet but probably eventually

[@sunrrrise]

Hello, what mod or mods do you use?

[@devinhorner2358]

Check out the descriptions, I include links to the mods. It's only a small handful

[@LarryDecker-h2e]

I like everything about your show except the R rated 😢 language. I may have to stop ✋ watching if the R rating doesn't come down .

[@robertsartino7664]

Awesome episode!!