Silver Safety! How NOT to be Fooled by Fake Silver

Silver safety! How NOT to be fooled by fake silver. In this video we talk about the risk of counterfeit silver--especially with silver rounds, silver coins, and silver bars. Fake silver and gold are a real threat, and you should stack silver and gold safely. There can be a lot of pitfalls in our silver stacking journey, and I hope this video helps those new to gold and silver stacking. Most silver fakes are actually really easy to spot and quite easy to test. It's best to employ multiple ways to test your silver coins, rounds, and bars. I compare real silver coins with fake silver, demonstrate various methods to test your silver and finally discuss testing for counterfeit silver and gold with my local coin shop silver dealer Tim.
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[@Arvelli]

i’m going to like, but like why am i watching this lol, i know NOTHING about coins, it was just on my recommended 😂

[@xAuger]

Maybe it's a signal to get into this kind of stuff

[@silentbliss7666]

Same thing happen to me 1 year ago. I'm a full fledged silver stacker now! No regrets :)

[@1badgt4]

Metals are REAL money.

[@troylevi9654]

Ya these shows suck because now I have thousands of ounces. I have always liked the 10 ounce bars I get coins are nice and all but at the end of the day I get more ounces from bars for way less then coins

[@jareda3106]

@@troylevi9654 What's your address?🤣🤣🤣

[@jeepjason94]

Well, that’s another 15 minutes of education for me that took you hours to put together. Thank you!

[@SilverHeist]

These videos do take time to prepare! 👌👌

[@MenGrowingTOWin]

Specific Gravity is a good test.

[@demolitiondan1188]

Yes, that’s probably the most accurate test you can do without using an analyzer.

[@bigrich6750]

Just started stacking. This was very helpful. Thanks!

[@tonyfisher4113]

Thank you for another great video. I love listening to you and Tim.

[@davegadge1]

The best video I have ever seen on how to tell if a coin is silver or not!

[@lindakubo6969]

Thank you for this video! Very helpful for a beginner like me.

[@TheSimba86]

Local dealer bought three 1000 ounce silver bars once, they tested fine when he bought them, later found out the centers of all 3 was lead

[@67stingray1]

Very informative. The ping test works just like distinguishing a steel crankshaft from a cast crankshaft. I have the ear.

[@robp9696]

Thanks Yankee for this information.

[@SILVERSTREAK925]

Great info Yankee. Thanks for sharing.

[@mikeq5807]

Wow, I was just on the phone with this shop today. Nice guy. In Maine, will be in.

[@shawnspreciousbullyon]

Those side by side comparisons of real vs fake coins where the spots of each coin was pointed out was super helpful. The magnet trick is always the best place to start when you don't have a Sigma like machine. Thanks for this video Yankee. I feel this video will save so many new and seasoned stackers from getting had with fake coins. Be well buddy.

[@vanillagorilla9841]

Oh my goodness.......I’m salivating over that 10 ounce Apocalypse bar on Tims counter!!

[@mlzb1535]

Thanks Yankee for this amazing video

[@TheRealSiberD]

Great video! Been using scales, rare earth magnets, and calipers since 2008.

[@clatsopcoin8666]

Clatsop Coin also uses a Sigma, additionally every piece also goes across my scale for weight. Would love to visit Tim's store but I'm at the mouth of the Columbia River at the Pacific Ocean where we get really cool sunSETs. I've not seen a sunRISE on the water in about 15 years. Gosh maybe a cross country road trip is due.

[@davidgatzke8337]

I bought a sigma from a LCS going out of business It has been great But i like the new sigma PRO better Help your LCS to buy the new sigma PRO and trade him for his old one It about $2000 for the PRO and about $1100 for new ones Happy stacking

[@Bloodyack]

I notice Tim has the original Sigma-- the new models have some pretty helpful improvements. The Sigma Pro and the new Pro Mini can check the size and thickness. I ordered my mini from Sigma (budget about 1.7k, me boyos) and paired it with an old phone (a tablet works too, but use something with a screen protector since that's what you'll use to check sizes.) The wand attachments are heartily worth it, especially if you're checking silver with deep recesses like stackers or tiny things like grams in assay. Also read the manual because there's a few things you need to know, like how temperature can throw off the conductivity reading. Don't forget to calibrate!

[@07blackdog]

Nice to see that Provident bar on the counter. I've been buying from them for years. No negative issues with them.

[@rogerlittreal642]

Thanks for sharing!!!!

[@realfubar6238]

Great vid, just got myself a sigma. Always great seeing Tim on the channel.

[@peterfritz6030]

Great video! Weight, dimension and ping are all you need. Be carefull with the magnetic slide. In fact, you are measuring the permeability of the metal, which isn't an easy task and errors can be made easily!

[@frankrizzo1934]

I think I may venture over to this gentleman's store this Memorial Day weekend. I've always wanted a reason to visit New Hampshire.

[@ludwigvonsowell5347]

Free state project has entered the chat

[@iracknads]

Oz is the abbreviation for ounce.

[@Irunwithscissors63]

@@iracknads lol. Sheer brilliance

[@frikandelspeciaal1431]

Cool video Yankee. The magnet i want to have to easy pocket tool.

[@jordantaylor789]

I bought some ATB 5 oz silver coins from someone on offer up. I was cautious about them so I weight and visually inspected them to my knowledge. I just did the ping test after watching this video and they all have such a beautiful ping and resonate for 10 or 15 seconds

[@johnnyargo8509]

Great video

[@GR19611]

You can get very lightweight flat ,half round , Neo magnets from old HARD DRIVES .These are fantastic for testing coins with minimum damage.

[@practicaloccultist231]

@@timothypanfilomaruchan8267 I've seen your comments thx for helping to clean up the comments. I try to report them all but there's so many

[@faustman1000]

That Sigma machine is awesome. P. S. This guy would be an awesome edition to Sesame Street

[@wonderboy2402]

One of the first things I noticed on the fake ASE you show is the sunbeam on the left does not pass the the letter L. Good to know about the flip method too!

[@dont.ripfuller6587]

Cool! I knew about dia magnetism with copper , didn't know silver was also.

[@BackyardSpecialEK9]

I wish I could go to that lcs and buy some silver. Owner looks legit and honest

[@brianpdaniels]

He's a good, fair guy

[@davidprather360]

On the Silver eagles I noticed that the sun rays on the fake don't go all the way through the L in Liberty. Very good video.

[@johnruck]

ALWAYS GREAT CONTENT > TIM IS THR BEST

[@Skraeling1000]

I work in a pawn shop, and once had a customer with several silver Mexican coins from two different years, about the size of a silver dollar. So I gave them a quick check, they felt right, weight was right, acid test was ok. I was about to buy them when I decided to do the magnet test. Oops. They were magnetic. On closer inspection, all the coins from the same respective year were exactly the same - down to the dings and scratches! So if someone offers you several coins of the same mintage, check to see if the damage matches on them, that's a bit of a give-away!

[@sdfv4zx]

You should know better than that, the first thing u should do is the magnet test, that would have save u a lot of work.

[@rayofsun7680]

Great and helpful video! Do you have a link to the particular magnet you were talking about? Thanks!

[@erichhonecker8548]

The Sigma Original now has the small and large extensions for testing anything unwrapped. Same machine as in the video but with wands for even more accurate testing. I will get one and bring it with me when I shop at the gold shops and know on the spot that what I'm getting is the real deal.

[@HeritageStacking]

Not sure how I missed this video but watched it now :)

[@melloncolliemedb]

the ping test is my favourite tune 🎵❤

[@Hasher411]

I like the specific gravity test. It takes more effort but I trust the results.

[@SilverTreasures]

The seldom pieces that “may need” further testing are far and few in between thus justifying the effort it requires. If someone is sooo paranoid that they’re testing every piece then they need to find a different dealer lol. Specific gravity saved my a$$ one time, after I had bought the iconic .99999 fine gold maple 1 oz coin. I didn’t even suspect it was fake, but I was testing a palladium panda (which was 100% real) and thought since I have everything set up I’ll test the maple and a couple other pieces. At first I thought user error so I reset everything. Test was identical to the first. I began freaking out and grabbed my Buffalo (which I know is authentic) just to make sure. And sure enough the Buffalo came back as pure gold. Tested the maple again and got the same bad result ... I took it to my bullion dealer to get the xrf results and it came back as 16k gold. VERY STRANGE... but it made sense given the consistent results of its specific gravity.

[@mikemikecohen]

Good reminder video about fakes. Last year I bought 25 1 oz silver coins from an online dealer. When they came in I measure diameter and weight and found about six to be outside the acceptable weight variation. Obviously returned the whole batch and told the issuer why they were being returned. Never heard from them not even an offer to send a new batch.

[@andrewfong4216]

It might be a little better to compare the fake proof ASE against a real proof ASE, not an UNC one. There might be some difference in the mirror finish on the background. As a chemist I got to play around with an XRF analyzer once. It was good, but XRF can be fooled if an item is plated thickly by genuine metal. The soft x-rays used in XRF only penetrate so far. I like the rare earth magnet test. I use a magnet which isn't quite so massive. The test also works through thin plastic such as through a coin flip, so I can usually tell without removing a coin from a flip or a 2x2 holder. That also protects the surface of a numismatic coin.

[@chassisresearchkid]

Thank you

[@Lin-pr8sh]

the ice cube test is quite amazing on silver...both bars and coins. I would add that to the other quick tests. Silvers high thermal conductivity makes it look like the ice cube is on a frying pan, and you can feel the cold on the other side of the silver very quickly. Would love to see it tested on a fake tho.

[@salm8990]

At 9:02 that sound IS the reason I started collecting silver.

[@martinettenes1789]

Thank you ...

[@malekmalek9064]

Keep some of these fakes if you get a homejacked,you can hand these over

[@dvdm4709]

Ahh I see you figured it out old man haha. Tricked us with this a couple days ago👴👴

[@dvdm4709]

Sorry forgot to add some ♿♿ haha keep up the good vids dude

[@dvdm4709]

@@timothypanfilomaruchan8267 it's gone now shhhh shhh it's ok, take daddy's hand ✋

[@brwilliams8899]

A lot of fakes are silver plated copper and don’t weigh out

[@rejekt2]

Fun story, I bought a 5 Mark German coin from 1897 for close to nothing 1 or 2 years ago and found it recently in my drawer. This re-ignited my interest in old coins, and I ordered some online, digging a bit deeper I found out that you can actually buy silver coins purely for their silver content, so I ordered some coins from Andorra with 92.5% silver content. I informed myself and noticed that those are not the right coins for this purpose, so I ordered a few of the right kind (Kangaroo, Maple and Britannia)...of course now I needed to know if those are fakes or not, this video helped me a lot, for now all coins have passed the test...except that 5 Mark coin I started with, it was a fake :D

[@kyfeam]

S.D. Bullion is where i buy my metals..

[@Silverholic]

Gotta be careful with the slide test. Copper has the same properties.

[@tedpark6814]

Copper is also a very good conductor, although it's not as good as silver, it's pretty close. That's why it exhibits this property.

[@Silverholic]

@@tedpark6814 Yes, there is an additional layer of electrons in Silver, making it a slightly better conductor. But the difference on the slide is almost impossible to notice.

[@rajekamar8473]

@@Silverholic Known coins of different materials could be used on a slide ramp to calibrate that system. Good ones and fakes. You would need to time them with light gates on top/bottom. You could do this with something like an Arduino/pc etc to log the times and give a time output.

[@ThePatriotPirate]

Good info thanks

[@steakershocks]

rare earth magnet and milk spots are my way of testing

[@tonyli8368]

Found the maple leaf stacker

[@TheQuickSilver101]

Thanks for covering this, Yankee. There's a lot of new folks in the silver space and it's good to cover this stuff for them. 👍🏻

[@ProsperInHealth]

Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I have a Peace dollar that was weighing heavy by . 3 grams, after seeing your coins come in heavy, I felt better. I did the Android ping test and it is supposedly genuine. What are some explanations why a peace dollar would be heavy?

[@LordPhan]

They err on the side of slightly over rather than under.

[@danieltwaddle8465]

Specific gravity as a second opinion never hurts.

[@goldcicvibefel9966]

Found an old 1940s walker half that was obviously cast but contained 90% silver. 🐥

[@allancolegrove2874]

I use a homemade mag slide, scale and magnets. The ping test I'm not so good at. I should get the phone app I guess!

[@robertbaker1707]

I’ve done a lot of research on fakes and do have a couple to make sure my Sigma is working correctly. The magnet does spot most of them. I have one eagle that was done masterfully but the sigma called it out.

[@SilverTreasures]

Specific gravity is my “go to” test. It’s free and the most reliable test out there.

[@YankeeStacking]

It’s a fantastic way to test too! I should have mentioned it.

[@SilverTreasures]

@@YankeeStacking The seldom pieces that “may need” further testing are far and few in between thus justifying the extra effort it requires. If someone is sooo paranoid that they’re testing every piece then they need to find a different dealer lol. Specific gravity saved my a$$ one time, after I had bought the iconic .99999 fine gold “super leaf” maple 1 oz coin. I didn’t even suspect it was fake, but I was testing a palladium panda (which was 100% real) and thought since I have everything set up I’ll test the maple and a couple other pieces. At first I thought user error so I reset everything. Test was identical to the first. I began freaking out and grabbed my Buffalo (which I know is authentic) just to make sure. And sure enough the Buffalo came back as pure gold. Tested the maple again and got the same bad result ... I took it to my bullion dealer to get the xrf results and it came back as 16k gold. VERY STRANGE... but it made sense given the consistent results of its specific gravity.

[@SmithsnMoz]

Love VIDEOS with my ABSOLUTE favorite LCS DEALER ... Even though he's nowhere near me!! 😊 😃

[@YankeeStacking]

Thanks. Yeah, everyone needs a Tim!

[@tylermassage6220]

Damn close to me!!! I just cannot get there till 10 min after he closes most days

[@Mendelssohn33]

Same here, we need a British Tim 🇬🇧

[@robinw.darnell4269]

I use the Sigma wands for anything above one oz troy. They work better on the bars.

[@cooldaddyfunk]

Man Yankee, I wish you had given him the fake peace dollar and asked him if it was real just by his assessment. It's kind of scary they sell distressed fakes, unless you didn't buy it that way

[@bullionaddict9164]

Yankee is absolutely SpegTaculars today 🙄 Good show man ✌

[@dscott3421]

Yankee, I noticed in both the picture and on your fake eagle, the "1 OZ" on the real and the "1 OZ" on the fake.

[@eidtnaci]

I get my silver from trusted sites and a local coin shop that’s been in business over 30 years

[@karl1111]

The Royal Canadian Mint had a problem with counterfeit bars that were in counterfeit packaging A couple of years ago! Beware of every purchase!😱👍

[@joechandler8398]

Yankee, you can quickly wave the magnet near the surface, without touching, of the real silver. The coin will move. It’s just doing the reverse of your contact slide without actually making contact.

[@tomtharos4440]

Looks, feel, Pocket Pinger, magnet slide, scale, calipers.

[@Tinstared]

Most of the newer fakes are copper with a silver coating. The magnet doesn't stick and will slide almost exactly like the silver.

[@bushtuckaman]

What's the best way to check one of those then please?

[@Tinstared]

@@bushtuckaman What I am saying is the magnet test is pretty much obsolete. Buy a digital caliper (under $10 at harbor freight) measure thickness, diameter. Look at the coin under a loupe, weigh it, ping test it, acid test. And if you know someone with a sigma ask them to check it.

[@bushtuckaman]

@@Tinstared Great info, thanks for the reply!

[@ttm1093]

The detail on the fake silver eagle was way off.Having said that watching other videos on this helped me.Your video was spot on and Wil help me out hope you make more.One thing I would like to add is to know your coins and compare to a coin you know is legitimate.

[@flipnap2112]

I used the app and let it record the ping test and it passed even with your voice talking over it. impressive. got a good deal on a sigma OG direct from them for less than a grand so ill be glad to have that in my arsenal.. go course I was like "I coulda gotten a healthy bar for that money ha ha."

[@rj7463]

What do you think about Yeagermeister Bullion Bars?

[@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist]

Ping test seems to be one of the better ways for coins/rounds. It just requires good hearing, which I think is sad, because of course not everyone has that good hearing, for high pitched things, especially as we age. I dont really like bars personally, I think they are easier to fake.

[@rd9102]

I need to get a sigma, i don't have a ton of it yet but as i dollar cost average and buy more over time it is going to matter.

[@hankgamer3965]

>he fell for the DCA meme

[@woodman1701]

Can you do a show on testing silver and gold for the apocalypse?

[@uncareid5557]

I was thinking about buying the $2000. tester. I bought a Buff instead. If my finances keep growing there might be one in my future. Then I could test stuff available locally. As for now I only buy from SDB, CMI, Apmex and JMB.

[@calebtimbs5046]

The peace dollar was hard to tell until I saw that it was the key date

[@robinw.darnell4269]

Thanks Yankee! I have six silver Morgan dollars that fail the Sigma Analytics but pas the Ping, Weight and Measure, the Magnet, I have no slide. I am at a loss but I think I got these from a jewler just don't remember. Its about $180 loss but not sure how to protect myself in the future.

[@fog8969]

Requesting info for purchase of good, dependable Neodymium Magnets. Thanks.

[@jaycrneckiy5699]

Do I only have to enter the MONSTER BOX CONTEST once this year or can I enter every time I see/hear about the contest??????

[@citizengkar7824]

At over NZ$1600, I won't be buying a Sigma, anytime soon. Great tips, on other ways; especially, the DIY ping test. Thx. Query; is there any site that has a database on minted bullion coin specs?

[@shrikeofterven6006]

Would a dealer test for you? I was thinking of getting a sigma and offering to test for other people for a tiny fee.

[@speckledjim_]

It's very difficult for the -chinese- counterfeiters to get both the weight and dimensions correct. A simple quick test catches a lot of them

[@tonyfisher4113]

Yankee always promotes SD bouillon. They claim to test everything. Do I need to get a metals tester and go back over all my orders from them? You got me noyviss.......🤠

[@getx1265]

I have my one fake ASE stuck to my fridge door... almost worth what I paid for it to have that nice looking thing where I can see it regularly.

[@tonyfisher4113]

You often referr JD bouillon. Do they test everything they sell?

[@stevelarson5103]

Can you do a video on the kinesis mint ma'at goddess 1oz 9999 round/coin? It is a beautiful coin and not so expensive.

[@Anonymous-tl9lf]

This made me test out my stack using ice and magnets...lt came back as real 😎 my stack is only 16 coins rn as I’m 17 but I have more into gold then silver by a lot. Love ur videos and Tim seems awesome!

[@Anonymous-tl9lf]

I put my life savings into gold, love the videos man

[@micemr76]

Ice?

[@wirelessone2986]

Nice portable scale!What make and model is it?

[@jamesdangerharvey]

copper also repels magnets as well does aluminum

[@mike62mcmanus]

I got robbed by a coin dealer to the tune of several hundred dollars... There are so many pitfalls with coin collecting I wish I never saw a coin...

[@sdfv4zx]

That is how coin shop make their money.

[@SlowStacker]

I am still team gloves! 🧤

[@joeszabo4237]

Thanks for the vid. What if someone buys used silver from a reputable place like say JM Bullion? That should be good shouldn't it?

[@sdfv4zx]

yes

[@philipsmedia5268]

Digital calipers and scales will help sniff out most fakes!

[@electromechanicalstuff2602]

Just bought two 100 oz bars from Sdbullion directly. They are reputable but the bars don't ring like my others.... Do I need to drill it?

[@stephenlennox6491]

The propa way is with me teeth. Works every time. Mind I have no teeth left now. lol

[@jeddmohlenkamp6870]

The local coin dealers here in FL cost more than the online prices!

[@SilverGoldStackAttack]

There's a ping app for the iPhone as well. CoinTester. Works GREAT!

[@YankeeStacking]

Are you sure it’s not only for an android phone? I’ve looked for the app on the iPhone for a while now

[@SilverGoldStackAttack]

@@YankeeStacking - Positive! I have it on my iPhone XR. From your phone, Google "Precious Coin Tester" without the quotations. It should come up for you!

[@MaxDangerPower]

I think due to copper content, the silver eagles will ping a lot better than maple leaves. So, what are you thoughts on the Fisch testing kits?

[@donavonrobbins1908]

The ping quality comes from the high power stamp the mints use. It forges the coin which alters the grain of the metal, while fakes are cast or otherwise shaped out right.