Sadly I’ve seen plenty of those spring clamps leak if they are old and you move them and then don’t put them back in the exact same position.
@lanceporter9943 жыл бұрын
i totally agree i am a auto technician and work on engines 5 days a week and if you dont put them back the same they will leak but they dam good clamps
@ChavezDIY3 жыл бұрын
Yup, I learned this the hard way.
@LatinDanceVideos3 жыл бұрын
Make a mark with a paint marking pen. Realign the marks when assembling.
@ChavezDIY3 жыл бұрын
@@LatinDanceVideos Its not necessary, I can see the embossed marks on the hose that the clamp leaves. I just didn't know if the clamp needed to be realigned the way it was before. I thought maybe clamping it in a different position would still work, but I was wrong. I didn't realign it and the hose leaked.
@quademasters2493 жыл бұрын
Its because old hose often hardens up.
@MattBuilds9023 жыл бұрын
Here on the east coast in Canada those clamps rust and crack then hose leakes. Screw style has always lasted for me being use stainless ones
@JoeZasada3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Salt belt goodness. But use good hose clamps that can be properly torqed ... Not those weak China ones.
@larryhumphries33413 жыл бұрын
Yeppers in areas were you have salt water or salt is used in the winter to melt snow or ice. You need to use stainless steel.
@WarriorNotesLatino3 жыл бұрын
But aluminum
@MrTheHillfolk3 жыл бұрын
Down here in the northeast I do generator service. It's always lovely to have a block heater fail and cause all kinds of cold water leaks at hose joints due to screw clamps. And after hose replacement you've gotta retorque em a few times after some heat cycles. I do like the spring clamps for the constant tension. But occasionally I've had to replace those with screw style clamps as they still show signs of sweating.
@MrTheHillfolk3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeZasada Somebody gave me a box of those from harbor freight, After 3-4 of em stripped out upon tightening , I threw em in the scrap pile and I'll get .39c for em when I have enough for the scrap run.
@chrishernandez24903 жыл бұрын
I must be the minority. Ive always used those worm gear clamps and have never had issues.
@cujoedaman3 жыл бұрын
And I'm sure every other person that has used them has never had a problem either. He just has something wrong with his truck specifically.
@robertgary35613 жыл бұрын
Try putting a pressure tester on it and I can almost guarantee at least one will leak a little. The spring style rarely leak
@mikecastleberry96713 жыл бұрын
Ten 4 worm clamps are better
@waterloo1231003 жыл бұрын
@@robertgary3561 You don’t have the right sized clamp or it’s not tightened enough if they leak. There’s nothing with them.
@robertgary35613 жыл бұрын
@@waterloo123100 it’s always after a few years. Car as a slow leak. I hook the pressure tester to it and just go around and tighten clamps and it’s good.
@beejay76653 жыл бұрын
Not recommended for Diesel engines on boats, per ABYC H-33.10.e.4; “clamps depending solely on the spring tension of the metal shall not be used”
@migael928 ай бұрын
Why did VW put these @#$@&@! things on my little diesel from the factory.
@Burn3773 жыл бұрын
Literally everything he's saying has been the exact opposite in my 20 years experience...
@TVCColin3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he obviously has 0 experience with automobile repair. I work on cars all day everyday and only use the worm gear ones because the pretension ones never work right after removing them.
@cheesecurd100s3 жыл бұрын
I've seen so many subaru spring style clamps fail.
@jarrodnichols81113 жыл бұрын
@@TVCColin The spring style are one-time use. You're not meant to reuse them.
@Awackypenguin3 жыл бұрын
Yea, the entire video I'm thinking to myself "the fuck is this guy on about". Good quality worm clamps work fine. Makes you wonder what other videos he has where he just spews BS
@eliezerramosjr10173 жыл бұрын
Your right not to mention they lose that tension with time unlike the work style clamps which I say I had never had a problem.
@pk-so1mj3 жыл бұрын
Happy to correct you on this one. I’m a mechanic with over 20 years experience. Those hose clamps are used primarily for one reason and one reason only, speed when fitting in an assembly line. Not only are they a nightmare to remove in tricky places it gets even harder when old hoses swell and yes those clamps do lose their tension over time. Unless you line them up with the indentation they leave in the hose when re fitting guess what? They leak! The majority of the time if a hose has leaked or is leaking after fitting a clamp it’s due to the older hose being hard and is because of the hose not being soft enough to seal around fitting and then it is relying 100 percent on just the tension of the clamp. Fact is I have NEVER had a correctly tensioned clamp on a good condition hose leak. I will always replace the this style of clamp whenever I have to remove them.
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
Why do worm gear clamps on new heavy equipment leak?
@jimb7922 Жыл бұрын
I was a mechanic for the post office and twice a year we would get multiple calls for leaking antifreeze. Those calls coincided with the change of the season. The issue was loose hose clamps. I can't say that spring clamps would definitively eliminate the issue but logically it would stand to reason that they would be less likely to leak. As to the difficulty of removing spring clamps from inaccessible locations the use of the right tool for the right job cannot be understated.
@bat__bat Жыл бұрын
I just did a timing belt job on a 2014 VW Golf. These jackass clamps are on everything and I was forced to buy that tool in the video. After losing at least 45 minutes trying to get those special clamps off with every type of pliers I own, the requirement of that special tool is not in any way a positive thing. If you or a friend is on the side of the road, which clamp would you prefer to have? The one that comes off with the screwdriver everyone carries? Yeah me too. Needless to say, after changing my friend's timing belt, I replaced as many of those jackass clamps as I could with new screw-on clamps that sane people use.
@EddieA907 Жыл бұрын
Amen sir.
@CantonBn11 ай бұрын
the "speed of assembly" claim is a MYTH. There are multiple studies and engineering papers that show spring clamps on coolant hose systems perform much better. A worm clamp is over 3x times more likely to develop a leak with a the >200 degree temp swing that occurs on your heater core and radiator connections.
@darkreno7503 жыл бұрын
Be careful with these clamps they can fly across the room at 30mph if you don’t handle it right lol
@Julio-jm8ld3 жыл бұрын
Yup and a pinched palm with the damm end of the pliers
@darkreno7503 жыл бұрын
@@Julio-jm8ld oh gosh you just reminded me of a terrible memory man I pinched my hand so hard with some needle nose pliers trying to get one of these off I had to get stitches
@AngryTurds3 жыл бұрын
Too many volcano bongs?
@thaik563 жыл бұрын
Use vice grips
@theblueboy203 жыл бұрын
Did ya see the spider
@willstikken56193 жыл бұрын
A few things to mention about this video, you will need to have some fairly significant temperature deltas and rates of change for this adjustability to make any discernable difference. Their use by OEM's has more to do with their speed of install than their temperature compensating or maintainability traits. These clamps do work harden over time and will lose their effectiveness while looking perfectly fine. They are also reliant on the hoses themselves being in good condition as an old hard hose that has taken a set will often not clamp properly when reinstalled with these types of clamps. One benefit of screw clamps that stood out from the video is that you can replace them without having to break the seal on whatever hose you're working with, simply unscrew them all the way and slip them over the hose. Also, some of the "cons" of screw clamps are overstated. If a moron overtightens a clamp to the point of breaking a part they have accomplished something unusual and special. If this has happened to you it might be a fluke, if it has happened to you repeatedly then consider the possibility that you may be a moron.
@brettjohnson55453 жыл бұрын
I usually over-tighten them until the worm gear starts skipping teeth and/or deforming the notches; then I have to start all over only to repeat the mistake. It is my belief that this too qualifies as moronic behavior.
@jaredfarley8463 жыл бұрын
It uuy it u
@pmtips44823 жыл бұрын
Thanks Will! You gave very good information here. Good read too!
@williamyoung32533 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with Will. This video is spot on about the reason for using the spring type hose clamp. Work hardening does not affect spring steel that doesn't exceed yield strength. I used to believe that the spring type was used by manufacturers because of cost or installation, but that's not true. They're just better for applications involving temperature swings. From my experience, spring type clamps are the only practical option. If screw type clamps were better, you'd at least see them on high end cars, but you don't. My biggest complaint is that they're so hard to find at auto parts stores. I guess it's easier to stock just a few screw type sizes.
@willstikken56193 жыл бұрын
@@williamyoung3253 We can disagree about a few things but there are a couple of reasons why you find screw clamps in auto parts stores. One is psycological the other is practical. The psychological aspect has to do with the obviousntess of function from tigtehning hte screw. It allows the less experienced to be confidnet the clamp is tight. It's also easier for the uniitated to pick a screw type clamp that will fit rather than having to pick the correct size spring clamp. The practial reason is that they work with hoses that have taken a set that often leak when reused with spring clamps.
@areyouundoingthatorwhat91813 жыл бұрын
Having spent the last nearly forty years in the motor trade I can assure you that most of what's stated in this video is nonsense or completely wrong,spring clamps are used by manufacturers because they are cheap and allow for quicker assembly.
@Cptlink4203 жыл бұрын
Those one time use clamps are horrible 💀💀
@ohioplayer-bl9em3 жыл бұрын
If they are cheaper why don't the dealerships use them? They love money..
@areyouundoingthatorwhat91813 жыл бұрын
@@ohioplayer-bl9em because they like anyone else that has fixed more than one car also know that they are rubbish,fine fitted to a new hose but once the rubber compresses over time then refitting them becomes a matter of exact placement for a fifty fifty chance of proper re-clamping,so rather than take a very solid risk of leakage or opting for sometimes breathtakingly expensive mihose replacement they opt for a better solution.,A bit of corrosion or a non uniform shape of the union or pipe the hose is being clamped to will result in a leak with sprung or even one shot clamps,a worm drive clamp will generally overcome a fair degree of irregularity in the fitting and allow you to apply more clamping force.
@thepaperboy90093 жыл бұрын
Not sure how "new" spring clamps can be when they've been in use in cars/motorcycles/vehicles for over 4 decades.
@johnbarnett28043 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that, I know I've seen them back in the 70's and 80's
@JosephArata3 жыл бұрын
They're not even used for the false narrative he's attempting to portray. They are used because they are cheap and easy to install on an assembly line.
@dodgeramsport013 жыл бұрын
@@JosephArata wrong! Not cheaper!
@zachreese65403 жыл бұрын
🤣
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
@@JosephArata They're used because they work better for longer
@D2O23 жыл бұрын
Had a hose leaking on my coolant surge tank that wouldn't seal with a spring clamp. The solution was a worm clamp. My experience has been opposite of this video. I have never had success reusing spring clamps but I reuse worm clamps successfully all the time.
@vizion42733 жыл бұрын
Yea fuck spring clams them bitches never come off
@donmax23153 жыл бұрын
Yeap had the same problem. Couldn't take it off. Had to use a dremel to cut the dam clamp. I am still piss off. Lol
@knocksensor32033 жыл бұрын
Maybe like torque to yield screws, only use them once
@Patrick_Gray3 жыл бұрын
One little comment would be for hoses below 5/8", I would consider using mini clamps.
@jeromeduffy92703 жыл бұрын
@@vizion4273 not with a pair of cheap plyers.
@rfunk7273 жыл бұрын
I've used the old style screw hose clips for over 50 years on my cars, bikes and boats and have never had one fail or lead, and I've never seen one turn bright "RED" as you mentioned.
@paul9156c3 жыл бұрын
I like marine grade stainless steel worm gear clamps for better durability.
@Krankie_V3 жыл бұрын
If you believe he literally meant it would be glowing red hot, you may be an idiot.
@mele29043 жыл бұрын
Ya I have more trouble with those "new style" clamps. Those old style clamps normally out last the hose they are sealing. Also, those new style clamps are actually more difficult in tight places contrary to what the video says, When they turn the wrong way over time........
@jauh253 жыл бұрын
I was gonna comment the same lol I’ve never seen a quality (not cheap chinese) screw clamp fail
@blatantmisconception2 жыл бұрын
@@jauh25 The only cheap one I've seen fail was my fault. Over tightened it, threads ripped.
@livewireblanco3 жыл бұрын
I'm still going to use worm gear clamps...🙃
@johnnyrebel99863 жыл бұрын
Yeah everyone who's struggled to get those damn things off figures out to use the screw type eventually.
@jonthelamb45493 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyrebel9986 it’s not hard if your good at it
@johnnyrebel99863 жыл бұрын
@@jonthelamb4549 So you're tellin me you've never had one that you couldn't depress enough to get it loose? Or some that don't hardly even have enough surface metal to put a pair of pliers on, I like the spring style clamps for large hose's like for radiator/water pump/thermostat housings because of ease of removal. But when it comes to small hoses like fuel lines ect and high pressure lines screw clamps are the way to go.
@jonthelamb45493 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyrebel9986 I haven’t used them much lol when I do it’s never an issue for me. Like you said the bigger ones are better then the smaller ones kinda depends where it is and what it’s on I guess
@mortenhartvigkristiansen77603 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyrebel9986 I strongly disagree. On small hoses you want to use the single use ones, you crimp on. Worm drive clamps can't (because of the worm drive mechanism) form a small circle to effectively tighten a small diameter hose. Also he specifically said that for use with high temperature fluctuations you need to use the spring type clamp.
@thekeeling853 жыл бұрын
I was a professional mechanic for over ten years, I've never had an issue with the worm style clamp
@domingodeanda2333 жыл бұрын
I been working on cars and trucks since 1973, and never had a problem with the screw type hose clamps.
@dyllonfowler3 жыл бұрын
I normally agree with you but this time I don't. I'm a diesel mechanic so I work with these daily. They can be some of the hardest ones to get off whenever you do not have clear access. And even then they often jump off the pliers. I have seen plenty of these not be able to hold pressure. We never replace them with the same style we always put worm styles in place. I work at a Freightliner dealership so that tells you something. I'm happy you like them but you're the first person I have ever heard that did.
@gplusgplus22863 жыл бұрын
Yes, every mechanic replaces them with standard clamps so the customer keeps coming back.
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
@@gplusgplus2286 I see worm clamps on Case IH equipment. After ten years it seems like half of em leak.
@sgtjonzo2 жыл бұрын
There’s a set of pliers you can get with cups on the end that make these much easier, but yeah I’ve busted my finger up more than once trying to get squarenoses onto them
@jimbote19682 жыл бұрын
Use spring clamp pliers. Game changer. I've worked on vw's tdi's for years and at first i hated spring clamps, but after seeing numerous failures where previous techs had replaced spring with "worm" clamps i became a firm believer in spring clamps. Not only do they work better and never leak, but disassembly and reassembly is much, much quicker than fiddling with worm clamps. I've worn out four sets of cable spring clamp pliers over the years. That's how much i deal with them. Hands down, a superior design.
@charlestackett71372 жыл бұрын
Don't use pliers unless you have to. Use the spring (constant-tension) clamp tool. It's better and it doesn't ruin the constant tension springs (by bending the prongs). Don't use the tool they show in the video.
@jimmyb13563 жыл бұрын
Ironically, I was so frustrated with constant tension clamps that I switched them all out for the old fashioned hose clamps 🤦🏻
@robludwigsen78313 жыл бұрын
I always do the same thing too.
@rondon1343 жыл бұрын
Same I've never had a problem with the old style
@antonyh373 жыл бұрын
Funny cause I switch out one of these new style for the old style because they allowed coolant to leak. The coolant hasn't leaked since.
@paulsmith93413 жыл бұрын
There has to be a way to size these things. They can't be one size fits all like the worm clamp. Maybe you take the od of the pipe and the od of the hose and find a clamp that has an id somewhere in the middle. 😳
@michaelpacker98053 жыл бұрын
@@paulsmith9341 careful because you really can OD off a pipe.
@cowboy412313 жыл бұрын
Tech tip: put the Constant Tension clamp back in the same Position, otherwise it WILL leak
@BukitMan3 жыл бұрын
I use Indian head gasket shellac on hoses. They wouldn't leak even if I used a zip tie as a clamp. Lol
@cowboy412313 жыл бұрын
@@BukitMan I use that stuff too as a cheap insurance
@urbanjentry2223 жыл бұрын
Which rarely you can
@BukitMan3 жыл бұрын
@@cowboy41231 Wouldn't ya know they just now are changing the name of it. This saddens me. And should sadden native Americans IMO. But every time I reached for that bottle I felt proud of the name. There was never any disrespect. I drive a chevy Cheyenne for crying out loud and I'm proud of that name too. Is it going to be better when they are no long represented on any products? People act as if we put them on toilet paper brands or something.
@cowboy412313 жыл бұрын
@@BukitMan yep sad world we live in, cancel culture bullshit.
@mhinkson-airbridge Жыл бұрын
It's about time someone mentioned this. I've known this for a while and seen guys use the worm drive style and tell them to use the automotive ones you talk about. They don't listen and just keep complaining about their car leaking or radiator fitting breaking. Course I can't judge too much, I was clueless at first too. I'm really glad you're here to tell everyone.
@eddievilla1584 Жыл бұрын
WOW! I have a 1986 B250 Dodge van and could not find a coolant leak. When it was hot NO LEAK, but once it sat over night I would see a small amount of coolant on the ground, very frustrating.😫 Thank you, so much for your video. 👍
@justkeepingitreal77683 жыл бұрын
You can get worm type clamps in constant torque as well. They have a spring on them.
@AgentOrange963 жыл бұрын
That seems like the best of both worlds. I replaced all my constant tension ones with worm screw types when I re-did all the vacuum lines just because the regular constant tension ones are a pain to deal with.
@jimdooner43753 жыл бұрын
Have used them on my job on Diesel engines . Retired from N.Y.C.T.A. Dept of Buses
@TheRoadhammer379 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir, used quite öften on the tubing for the charge air coolee
@TallyMendivil9 ай бұрын
Constant tension clamp tool
@johnnyrebel99863 жыл бұрын
I think you got it backwards hoss, the screw type are way better and they stay tight. On the other hand those spring clamps weaken over time and can leak, especially if removed and replaced a number of times.
@acamaro56483 жыл бұрын
You got that right Bubba...
@etb4u3 жыл бұрын
And, they're a PITA to get off vs screw type.
@DCSPORTSTER3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen one weaken and you might want to buy the right tool to do the job. All my vehicles go north of 400,000 km and I’ve never had a spring clamp fail. That doesn’t even cross my mind that ever be an issue with it.
@ohioplayer-bl9em3 жыл бұрын
@@DCSPORTSTER the key word is easy.. the reason they use them is because they are easy not better. Now.. some old timers may be more comfortable with them and that's fine on older vehicles. New vehicles with plastic fittings will either crack or fall off given enough time. If it came from the factory with screws go ahead and use them. If it came with springs it's best to use the springs. Get new ones if you overstress the old ones taking them off with the wrong tool. Oh.. and buy the correct tool as well.
@northwestlife_93 жыл бұрын
I remember the day when most youtube videos were about 3 minutes. I miss the goid ole days. Thank You for giving the answer in 2!!
@shaggymcdaniel3216Ай бұрын
This is invaluable information. When I was younger I let a guy work on my coolant leak. He claimed that the conventional clamps were trash and the screw-in clamps were superior. Sure enough I’ve had problems and fixed it myself, but with screw-in clamps. I’m immediately going back to the store, return these trash clamps and buying pressure retention clips. Thank you so much for your informative video.
@lauraparker21403 жыл бұрын
Holy B.S. this is a prime example of a shool trained technician.
@charlesparr32963 жыл бұрын
Personally, I've never had a problem with the old style screw clamps.
@Doug7913 жыл бұрын
These 'spring' clamps can be an absolute nightmare to deal with. In my garage we regularly replace them with jubilee clips. Never had one come back because it leaked.
@robludwigsen78313 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@albertlehmann27583 жыл бұрын
I worked on one recently that sprang loose and impaled the palm of my hand. There's a worm drive clamp now in it's place.
@gaveintothedarkness3 жыл бұрын
I always thought cars had them because of ease of assembly. This was very insightful.
@jua72653 жыл бұрын
Yes, speed and ease of assembly are a main automotive factor. You will not see them in aircraft use.
@jacobg14883 жыл бұрын
They go in easy with new stuff but once those hoses get a little swollen they can become a bear especially heater core lines at the firewall that are difficult to reach. Those flex clamps are handy but I’ve encountered times that even fully compressed it didn’t open the clamp far enough and had to get creative with locking needle nose pliers. Constant tension worms are great but they are way more expensive.
@pjm3293 жыл бұрын
Ease of assembly but also cost. Auto makers don't use them because they work better. They use them because they are cheaper.
@davidkeeton67163 жыл бұрын
@@pjm329 Auto manufacturers use them because a robot can install them instead of a human. The robot presents so many less problems during it's time of use. I hate them. Why, because robots don't go out and spend money which creates jobs. See...
@pjm3293 жыл бұрын
@@davidkeeton6716 End result... Much cheaper.
@adamballinger13583 жыл бұрын
I rip all of those " smart" clamps off and use stainless worm gear clamps .The only reason those " smart clamps are used is for ease and speed of assembly . This tool has probably never turned a wrench.
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
I always throw worm gear clamps in the garbage when I can and replace with spring clamps.
@averyalexander23033 жыл бұрын
Another significant benefit of spring clamps is that they remove most of the user error aspect of installation. As long as the spring clamp is past the end of the hose fitting, it's good to go. But with worm drive clamps, there's the user error aspect of people undertightening or more often overtightening them and ending up with leaks, damage to the hose, and/or damage to the fitting.
@bat__bat Жыл бұрын
Lord have mercy. I think the first time my father showed me how to use a screw-on hose clamp, I was 10 or 11. He told me then I'd have to be a complete idiot to screw this up. Since that age I've used maybe hundreds of those clamps without a single issue. Normally, after about ten years or more of the clamps getting wet every day, the clamp rusts or corrodes and needs to be replaced - but even then, it still holds pressure fine after many thousands of temperature changes. I'm calling complete bullshit on this. "User error"? You could say the same thing about tightening ANY screw or bolt in general. And if you're that over-cautioned about the simplest hand tools in the world being used properly, you're probably a nervous wreck every time you get in a car, or plane, or train, or go kart, or lawn mower, tractor, ferry, walking across a bridge, sitting in a chair, climbing a ladder, and even laying in bed, which all of these use screws and bolts capable of dreaded "user error".... 👏😵💫
@jinxtacy Жыл бұрын
@@bat__bat He's talking about removing end user error and yes you can screw up worm gear hose clamps. It's why you see people strip the wood out of their cabinetry. Anything with lighter torque that normal people interact with. I've thrown away so many worm gear clamps that were overtightened ruining the perforations. Pre-tensioned clamps do remove this variable of the end user provided it's not cocked at some angle. For you to claim the end user isn't a liability is just ignorant. As far as bolts and nuts in a car you can say the same thing. The lower the torque values the more likely you'll see people twisting the heads off bolts or pulling out threads and if you add aluminum it gets worse. Think of the stories of spark plug jobs in aluminum heads or even an oil drain plug. Normal people are wild when you put a tool in their hand
@bat__bat Жыл бұрын
@@jinxtacy idk... tightening a screw clamp using a screwdriver or nut driver is about equal in difficulty to using pliers to replace a pre-tensioned spring clamp. And on Volkswagen, you need special pliers. So, yeah. Not making any logical sense there
@jinxtacy Жыл бұрын
@@bat__bat It's not about difficulty, it's about removing the ability of the person doing the work to screw it up. Would you trust Johnny middle class from suburbia to torque anything you own by feel? If there was similar limitation for oil filters and drain plugs the world would be a better place and that's with professionals doing the job.
@CantonBn11 ай бұрын
@@jinxtacy wrong. Plenty of engineering studies show that spring clamps hold better under the typical 0-230 degree Fahrenheit conditions of automotive coolant lines expansion and contraction
@Dziugenonas3 жыл бұрын
These "new style clamps" often cause leaks in my experience. Can't explain why it happens, but I can usually fix it by replacing them with the "old style clamp" and tightening it like crazy :D
@PJBonoVox3 жыл бұрын
They're a solution looking for a problem. Keep using correctly sized screw clamps, they're fine.
@JoshuasRecordings3 жыл бұрын
Same. The thing I find with worm gear clamps (old style) is people don't tighten them when the engine is cold and don't tighten them enough. If you use a socket and tighten the shit out of them they're easier to install and never leak in my experience.
@PJBonoVox3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuasRecordings Other benefit is you don't have to remove the hose to install or remove a screw clamp.
@JoshuasRecordings3 жыл бұрын
@@PJBonoVox I find screw clamps much easier to install and remove so yea. Also never had one leak when properly installed, and you can't properly install them with a screw driver. Use a socket.
@ohioplayer-bl9em3 жыл бұрын
Until you tighten like crazy on a plastic fitting.. it will break given enough time. That's the point of the springs, they flex with the expansion of the material.
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@jorgevega2383 жыл бұрын
I absolutely 100% Agree. I dont like those screw type clamps. Factory style clamps are the Best.
@mr.george-pht3 жыл бұрын
I’m a truck driver self thought heavy truck mech and drive from Florida to northern Canada...and I can’t agree with this man more. There is a reason those clamps are used and he is exactly right. I have had “cold water” leaks and took me a while to figure it out. It was the clamps.
@markjordan49943 жыл бұрын
I found Silver Cymbal's advice to be spot on, and I'm 67, with lots of automotive experience.
@Victor-hb4hj3 жыл бұрын
Interesting as those clamps have been factory installed for decades. Always considered them cheap alternative and replaced them with screw clamps whenever servicing my vehicles. Been working on my own cars for 50+ years and was apparently clueless. Thank you for the tip
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
I used to think exactly the same. They are deceptively amazing
@maxgator3 жыл бұрын
One thing I will tell you... Sometimes it is dang near impossible to get those clamps off in tight spaces. If you have that problem, once you get them off, don't try to reuse them. Most of them are not designed for reuse. Get new ones. The benefit is that they will be locked open and will easily slide into position on the hose. Then you just squeeze then open and let go. They lock into place. Great info always on this channel! Thanks
@howardgrover89083 жыл бұрын
I have been a mechanic for almost 40 years. I only use these on vacuum lines and small engines
@mediocre_moto3 жыл бұрын
Both clamp styles have their pros and cons - many comments here already cover those. If you want a constant tension screw type clamp, look at the Breeze Constant Torque clamps. Not cheap, but you get the best of both worlds.
@schrodingerscat86213 жыл бұрын
PS: I really did like the information you provided. I work with them all the time and have seen leaks with those clamps in use, but I’m also questioning the age of the hose at that point. Usually when there is a leak, there is a bunch of crystallize coolant creating a breach in the sealing surface. Which It’s not necessarily the fault of the clamp.
@Pinkielover Жыл бұрын
The mechanic that replaced my radiator used regular screw clamps and it's working fine going on 5 years on my Mazda 6 ... All the stock ones were replaced those clamps are there stock because it's cheap and fast to install On assembly line when they make the car That's absolutely the only difference.. Clamp style worm type are far superior in every install I've done
@fewworddotrick Жыл бұрын
Something to remember is not all worm style clamps are created equal. The one in the video looks like a poor quality cheapo. A good stainless clamp will fit together easier and just be a smoother install overall. I've been using them for years and years on various vehicles and never had an issue. There may very well be something to your argument about OEMs using those spring clamps to adjust for temp swings. I know that they likely use them for the install speed, but I'd say the temp part is also a reason. I think some people who argue against this have never been in extreme climates. A clamp has to be able to withstand temps at -50 with the engine cold as well as 130 ambient temp so well over 300 under the hood, even more depending on type of vehicle and if you're towing. Go tow a heavy trailer through the desert in the middle of summer and tell me that wouldn't matter. Lol
@LapoftheWorld3 жыл бұрын
10/10 advice. I've never had a spring clamp leak where the hose wasn't compromised somehow. I've had numerous instances of worm drive clamps leading to leaks. That said, all of those leaks happened on smaller diameter connections where the drive box on the worm drive clamp creates a flat spot of sorts where an equally small spring clamp wouldn't. On larger diameter hoses, it's less of an issue (again in my experience).
@saidtheblueknight3 жыл бұрын
Those red clamps are the absolute devil. I replace all of mine anytime I take them off. I've been using worm clamps on my race cars and hi-po street cars for 27 years and I've never had them fail on me. The issue is not the clamps themselves or the design, it's almost always user error.
@Grant82gc3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same mate, the clamps he recommended are fucked.
@Grant82gc3 жыл бұрын
Never had the issue he described.
@iFixJunk3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. He must have invested in those "smart" clamps.
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
Do you not count leaking as a failure?
@jeanchapman13013 жыл бұрын
In 40 years, I’ve never had one of those clamps leak. Had one come completely loose once on a lower radiator hose, but other than that HUGE leak (emptied the radiator) I have not seen that leakage issue like yours.
@cujoedaman3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, they use them all the time in more inexpensive cars, early 2000's Saturn's come to mind. I see them on cars all the time, just not EVERY car. I bet he has a cracked outlet on the radiator and every time he tightens it, the stupid thing just keeps cracking more and leaking further.
@slowville66373 жыл бұрын
Hah so true, it's what I use when I want to make sure the a hose doesn't leak or come off.
@lawrencekin02 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Silver Cymbal for this video...Now I understand better on using the correct hose clamp for the radiator hose.
@Surfcityham5 ай бұрын
On a boat, if the hose goes to an underwater fitting, you use two all-stainless screw clamps. I usually set them so that the screw heads are accessible and on different sides of the hose.
@HawaiiJapan8083 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never knew this. I always thought the screw drive was better. Makes sense what you said, keep up the videos.
@slowville66373 жыл бұрын
Screw is better, just look at race cars, the spring is just more dummy proof.
@johnnyrebel99863 жыл бұрын
Screw type is definitely better hoss, no matter what this guy says. I prefer the spring type on large hose's like the lower radiator to water pump or thermostat housing due to their being easier to remove, but on anything small like fuel lines especially anything with high pressure use screw types. Just make sure when you tighten them down that you can get to clamp to remove it or you'll be in a world of hurt.
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
screw types are defective by design
@HilltownCT3 жыл бұрын
I like the convenience of the spring clamps, but they’re too failure prone with age in my experience.
@earlscheib77543 жыл бұрын
I've had plenty snap
@billp61913 жыл бұрын
I've been around race cars for 30 years,with engines easily upwards of 30 to 40 thousand dollars. I have never seen not would I ever use those spring clamps.
@billp6191 Жыл бұрын
@@Mole460 nobody said drag racing. I've been involved with go kart teams,and every class of stock cars ,from 4 cylinders all the way up to 1000 hp dirt late models. Standard screw type hose clamps are the norm
@magalover2024 Жыл бұрын
Omg thanks!!! I was wondering why I had a leak after mechanic did oil change and no other issues. 😂 your video randomly answered my question in my feed. 👍 thumbs up😊
@garybeharrell3972 Жыл бұрын
I never thought about this before but plastic radiator hose spouts may contract at a greater rate than steel or aluminum therefore causing this condition mentioned. Also silicon or soft hoses require the clamps with the liner in them that are much better for small hoses. Saying that I agree with the comments that gear clamps have never failed me. Thanks for the video. I makes us think.
@busterscrugs3 жыл бұрын
I know so many armchair mechanics who hate on spring style clamps because they don't know how to install or remove them easily. I've always preferred them because of their ability to maintain consistent clamping force over time and temperature changes.
@CrashCarson143 жыл бұрын
Problem with the constant tension ones is after about 3 times taking it off then it’s worn out and won’t hold tension. Gets loose.
@dodgeramsport013 жыл бұрын
So get a new one!
@pjm3293 жыл бұрын
Spring clamps have been around for years and years. they are not the "new style clamps". In my experience they are just as likely to leak as any other style clamp . And when they do all you can do is replace them. I will continue to use the better worm gear clamps.
@boydprince1870Ай бұрын
I've read many of the comments below and agree with most, of the ones I read. The tension springs are not new and works just great when everything under the hood is new. Frequent high temp through the hose, over clamping and age of the hose can cause distortion in the hose and if made of plastic or thin meta, the connection too. Just because alittle works well, it does not necessarily follows, a lot works better!
@dragoorion26803 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I had same problem and checked it out. My 2019 Dodge Journey came with the wrong clamp. Switched to one you suggested, and problem fixed.
@derekbennett58963 жыл бұрын
That's crazy, cause I constantly replace spring clamps due to leaking 🤷♂️
@mortenhartvigkristiansen77603 жыл бұрын
Pro tip, put it back in the correct position.
@derekbennett58963 жыл бұрын
Just for fun what would be the "correct" position on a newly installed hose to keep it from leaking? Or if clamp was leaking from the factory with only 20-30k miles?
@SinsBird3 жыл бұрын
@@derekbennett5896 Sounds like you have a wrong size hose and/or wrong size clamp.
@derekbennett58963 жыл бұрын
@@SinsBird I'll let the fellas at the factory know they're using the wrong size clamp and or hose
@SinsBird3 жыл бұрын
@@derekbennett5896 Unfortunately they don't listen until there's a lawsuit
@AGCampagna3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you noticed, but you have 2 links for tools that don't work on the hybrid clamp you linked.
@danven12563 жыл бұрын
The spring clamp is a great design. After 40 years of using them on imports I found that they rarely leak. The most important thing though is selecting the proper size. If you select too large of a clamp you won't have the proper tension and it will leak.
@timothyball31443 жыл бұрын
This is the problem with spring clamps. If you replace a hose and it's a different OD then the original clamp won't work and finding the correct clamp is difficult. Maybe somewhere is an assortment box of spring clamps.
@knocksensor32033 жыл бұрын
Yes ,that’s why they come in different sizes
@timothyball31443 жыл бұрын
So I did some searching and there are spring clamps assortment, but the biggest one only goes to 22 mm. I'm not sure what to do about bigger sizes.
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
@@timothyball3144 You can take em off cars in the junk yard. Plenty of selection there.
@timothyball31442 жыл бұрын
@Ding Bop That is true. But which clamp is the right one for which hose? I just can't imagine myself making the time to go to a junk yard, removing hose clamps, measuring the hose, noting which clamp fits which hose, organizing them into their proper sizes in an organizer then making the space to store those organizers. I can see how spring clamps are superior when it comes to proper clamping pressure, but when it comes to usability, they suck.
@dj-kq4fz Жыл бұрын
Hose clamps (OG) are just fine for nearly everything. Multiple cars, pool hoses, you can bet I've used them on everything. They work and are infinitely adjustable (just don't strip them out). Having said that, I enjoy and appreciate your content! ETA: just realized this is from a year ago and I somehow missed it, I'm slow apparently.
@conrad135793 жыл бұрын
Best Advice Ever. Thanks for Sharing this.
@scyth6253 жыл бұрын
You got to be kidding me. Mechanic for 40 yrs. I threw every one of these clamps away and cursed the guy who invented them. They lose tension and leak, are a pain to remove. Replaced them with the screw type and never had a problem. What the ad said is just the reverse.
@RussellCambell3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this video is bs
@RussellCambell3 жыл бұрын
You need special pliers for these types too. I'll just stick with the screw type
@ryanf101thekingoftheparadi23 жыл бұрын
I always change them out for the screw ones especially when their in spots you can hardly get too. Honestly way easier to get off and on.
@cgreen3393 жыл бұрын
I’ve honestly just never had these problems, it’s good also to make sure the old clamp is the right size as well because some may look similar but be just a hair to big, the new clamps are annoying to install in tight spaces if all you have are pliers but I’ve never had a problem with those either I think it’s mainly just about getting the right size
@jhonnycifuentes66383 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you making good videos very good information
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@Davesworld78 ай бұрын
After reading the comments it becomes apparent that some people do not give a shit what they are doing and are proud that they are a backyard hack and think they are being clever and got one over on the universe by using gear clamps and then come here to brag about it and get likes by the similarly gifted. If I am buying a used car and I see gear clamps, I scrutinize intensely to find out what other work this individual has done and ask them how they did it. When OEM hardware starts to disappear and what replaced it could have came from a hardware store, red flags start popping up.
@tabghani36383 жыл бұрын
I agree with you bro.. I found same problems with many of my customers vehicles ..100 % you are right
@paulsmith93413 жыл бұрын
How do you size these spring clamps?
@SongOfStorms4113 жыл бұрын
Spring clamps are typically used for dryer exhaust hoses as well. I find them very frustrating as they wear out over time and are a huge pain to get on.
@eosjoe5653 жыл бұрын
Another problem with worm-drive hose clamps is they do not provide uniform tension around the hose. The area under the screw exerts a lot more force than the rest of the clamp. This can be a problem, especially with the proliferation of plastic radiators and other engine components.
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
Very important point, many people don't realize this. They have their places for lots of low pressure, less exacting uses but vehicles and such do not do well with them.
@jtcmlt13 жыл бұрын
@@SilverCymbal I think that it is not true. Hi pressure does not make worm clamps fail. Heat is the reason for failure, but only because over tightening. The hose itself has enough elasticity to allow for the hose area next to the clamp to expand without failing. Also, the poly-nylon, or any plastic, that the radiator is made of, will also withstand the heat created. Moreover, metal also expands and contracts. It really is a matter of wear and tear, or manufacture defects on one of the components. This is just my humble opinion.
@mountainhobbit197122 күн бұрын
how do I know which size to get for my radiator hoses?
@bywayz Жыл бұрын
This information is correct. Also, constant-tension clamps are easy to work with when using a dedicated hose-clamp plier.
@magmajctaz14053 жыл бұрын
I like constant tension clamps. They also make up for changes in the hose over time (ages). But they are difficult to find locally.
@Pinkielover Жыл бұрын
Except they don't...
@EMShorts83 жыл бұрын
I've literally never had any leakes or this issue on my truck, And I have old style on most my stuff.
@donelldavis40353 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree, personally I hate those spring type clamps. Theyre most annoying when they’re in tight spaces especially.
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
They are tough in tight spots, hopefully you watched the rest of the video with the tool, it works really well even in places no other type could be accesed
@phugemawl3 жыл бұрын
AND finger gashers !!!
@carlosk81033 жыл бұрын
@@SilverCymbal No one wants to buy special tools to install clamps.
@jtenrec13 жыл бұрын
I have replaced a lot of hoses that rotted under these spring clamps. I do not like them.
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
@@carlosk8103 I buy the tool to install a superior clamp
@carspa14553 жыл бұрын
Wish I could give you more than one thumbs up. Very valuable information. Thanks much for sharing. Great job.
@verinb9 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I learned alot. Please keep them coming. 🙏🏾
@fredeschen37833 жыл бұрын
I had a similar problem and fixed it successfully with double hose clamps 😂 I like your solution better though
@carlosk81033 жыл бұрын
Here here... Same... lol
@Gixer750pilot3 жыл бұрын
Worm gear clamps, commonly known as jubilee clips as they were invented by an engineer in HMS Jubilee . Now you know !
@asm423 жыл бұрын
And knowing is half the battle... Forgive me, it's a reflex.
And even more “Wow!” about hose clamps: “Within the United States, SAE International maintains Specification J1508 for thirty-two different hose clamp designs, including screw, spring, and t-bolt styles. It also maintains Specification J1610 for the testing the sealing of hoses. The US Army TACOM maintains Commercial Item Description (CID) A-A-52506 that provides for the standardized acquisition of hose clamps by the Department of Defense; the CID references the SAE specifications. The CID superseded Federal Specification WW-C-440 for hose clamps in 1994.” SOURCE: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hose_clamp
@marksmith19163 жыл бұрын
Ahhh the jubilee clip.
@Wizardnil3 жыл бұрын
God bless your channel. The soldering connectors you mentioned in an earlier video changed my life!
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thank you for the kind words
@ixionn5633 жыл бұрын
They really are great once you learn to use them. I kept melting them and got frustrated, until I realized it was my own fault. When using a lighter you have to keep it moving, if you focus the heat on one area (even from a distance) the shrink material will melt away.
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
god's a myth
@ryannrjohnson Жыл бұрын
Only problem is once those clamps rust the top handle can snap when you attempt to take it off and that was an entire new job just finding a way to get that clamp off once the opening handle snapped. Tried finding a replacement at Autozone but they only sell the other clamps with the screw so that’s what I had to use when I replace my radiator.
@kylefowler50823 жыл бұрын
This is a great video and speaks the truth which really hurts people's feelings haha. I had the exact same issue in three spots with my truck and fixed it the exact same way a few years ago. Someone worked on the cooling system and used those garbage worm clamps and they leak all over the place when it's cold and work themselves loose over time even if you buy the ones that claim to not loosen. Worm clamps are crap but people get so upset when you tell them that because they hate fighting with spring clamps. It is true that you have to set spring clamps back in the same spot on older hoses but it's not a big deal. Other people mention that spring clamps rust and break, yes they do if you buy cheap ones. There's a cheap version of everything especially when you buy from Amazon. When I fixed my truck I went to the salvage yard and got OEM clamps. Still no leaks 5 years later. If you live in the salt belt no one can help you there, everything rusts away on a car that spends half the year covered in salt, that's just life. Also worth noting is people buy the wrong size clamp (it's too loose but easy to install) and then it leaks but hey it's the spring clamps fault...... or maybe not..... Also smaller worm clamps, clamp in a "D" shape and are guaranteed to leak. At worst small spring clamps, clamp in an egg shape. Automobile manufacturers have to provide warranties to compete these days and they know worm clamps are nothing but trouble so they don't use them to hold back fluids. If look they only use them for air intake systems and maybe on the gas tank filler neck.
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
I get OEM spring clamps from the junk yard too. To replace screw clamps previous owners put on my vehicles.
@ericbrown38813 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to be the eight hundred sixty-eighth "thumbs down" on this uninformative video. I think the 868 thumbs down figure represents the number of actual mechanics who've watched this video.
@jamesengland74613 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@FreeLance_603 жыл бұрын
I love learning new things!
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@stephenzies88673 жыл бұрын
Everyday Is A School Day. You Never Stop Learning
@keithdufour82643 жыл бұрын
Excellent tip. I just replaced a couple houses and used those clamps. I’ll replace them now
@ding96332 жыл бұрын
Don't waste your time with worm gear clamps. They're a bad design. Uneven clamping pressure around the circumference of the hose and they loosen up.
@dm-zx7xb3 жыл бұрын
As a pro mechanic for nearly 2 decades, I specifically NEVER reuse spring clamps UNLESS the hose is replaced and it comes with a new spring clamp. Spring clamps will never tighten properly around a hose that has taken a set (compressed around where the spring clamp once was). A screw clamp can almost always allow you to tighten it if you somehow (I never had one) develop a leak in the future. No need to worry about the clamp needing to expand with heat, the rubber hose perfectly allows for compensation of expansion due to heat (think crimped rubber lines used with power steering and transmission lines most commonly). If you break a water neck due to over tightening the clamp you probably used a 1/2 impact and a screw clamp that isn't available to the public AND your plastic water neck was probably so old and brittle that it was looking for an excuse to break. Ever have one of the ears break off a spring clamp? If so you will be cutting it off with a grinder - not fun. Manufacturers only use spring clamps because of their speed for assembling. This comment will probably be deleted because that's how we do things these days...
@dm-zx7xb3 жыл бұрын
Must also mention that I've used Ideal brand hose clamps without failure. I'm sure you can Ebay a box of 100 crappy China screw clamps for $5 and have plenty of issues. Seen plenty of people swear by reusing spring clamps and have seen many leak. They usually chalk it up to not having it properly aligned yada yada. When I first started my career I reused them too and found when I pressure tested or the customer still had a leak after they left and came back a week later with issues, it was ALWAYS from a spring clamp. Switched to screw clamps and never again had a leak from any hose, new or used, ever again. I also only reuse spring clamps on vacuum lines and haven't had issues with that.
@B.Dizzler933 жыл бұрын
I am not a professional mechanic but I completely agree. I've had to loosen many of the spring clamps for one reason or another and after reinstallation, they always leak. I usually try to find the good screw clamps but even the cheap ones do a better job than spring clamps.
@Asylum3D2 жыл бұрын
As a 20+ year tech I do agree with this video. We live in an area that can change 20+ degrees from day to day. Never had a problem with squeeze clamps but periodic issues with the other. If I don't have squeeze clamp I have to tighten it, drive vehicle, let it cool down, retighten. Depending on the time of year you could have a large temp drop and still have it leak. Squeeze clamps are more of a p-i-t-a if you ask me, but at least I know I will not have a comeback. Customers don't understand nor care about educating them on how certain clamps might leak if it gets to cold.
@jimgallagher63103 жыл бұрын
Learn something new every day. Thanks and this makes perfect sense.
@hungrycolby3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful! I never knew this! Thanks for sharing!
@my_last_bullet87163 жыл бұрын
This dude literally explains that metal contracts when its hot and expands when its cold the exact oppsite of how metal works
@Rareenergy3 жыл бұрын
He said it leaked when cooled, that would be contraction
@RobertClolery8 ай бұрын
I worked for a clamp maker for almost twenty years. The screw type clamps we made could not be beat. We could not make enough millions of them. (Ideal Corp.!)
@omegaman1409 Жыл бұрын
That tool is a brilliant idea. I had so many mishaps with vise grips.
@athalyerajan28233 жыл бұрын
I have uses zip ties too. Not again though. I will buy these spring clamps
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
For an emergency zip ties are good stuff
@christianjorgensen2493 жыл бұрын
Another home run video Mr Silver! Maybe not as exciting as the others, but definitely commonsense information. I had no idea that tool you showed even existed! Will be putting that on my shopping list (any excuse to go to the hardware store 😃) Thank you!
@orlandogandara86753 жыл бұрын
My Lexus has had a small leak like this for months, if this turns out to be the problem ill be forever in your debt
@jameslowry32083 жыл бұрын
check the top and bottom end tank rows of the radiator. Common leak and sometimes hard to spot, small coolant leaks evaporate most moisture on hot radiator before it gets a chance to hit the ground. Factory toyota/lexus coolant is red and will leave a pink residue at leak.
@jpsmusicforthemood51973 жыл бұрын
I had on '04 RAM 1500 with those "Smart" clamps on the Power Steering lines. On at least 2 occasions when the temp dropped extremely low (-30 F) ALL of my Power Steering fluid drained out onto the pavement! I read about the issue and found that this is/was pretty common for my vehicle. The recommended solution was to replace those "Smart" clamps with the "worm drive" clamps on the Power Steering lines. After replacing them as recommended (I put 2 clamps on each connection), I never had a problem with the fluid leaking out again. I seem to recall that the issue was related to the metal fitting and the rubber hose expanding and contracting at different rates.
@dandiegidio77299 ай бұрын
I keep seeing these sorts of videos for some reason. Recently I had to use a screw clamp for my plastic radiator hose because it's in a location that makes pliers impossible. That was maybe 8 months ago and haven't had any problems. I've never had a problem with screw clamps. I've actually had problems with old spring clamps not getting tight anymore.
@jaimedavidson61173 жыл бұрын
'should never be used on a boat' literally every wake boat coming from the manufacturer uses these.
@indyjons3213 жыл бұрын
Fiiiiiinnnneeeee..... I'll change out my hose clamps....
@ssss-df5qz3 жыл бұрын
I throw those spring clamps away when I take them off. Been in the trade 20 years. Probably as long as this kid has been alive.
@xnadave6 ай бұрын
I dumped two gallons of coolant all over a race track last weekend after a worm clamp on my upper radiator hose gave up. Those things should be banned. The constant tension clamps are a bit of a pain to manipulate without the proper tools, but, they've never left me stranded.
@freemanwang58713 жыл бұрын
Good explanation, detailed, experienced. Keepup the good work. Buddy!