Dark Souls Lore - Lautrec of Carim

Dark Souls Lore: Lautrec of Carim
Carim Part 3
Third and final in our three-part mini-series covering Carim; in the last episode, we look at Lautrec the Embraced! Golden Yurt 2.0. We'll also cover Fina and her possible connection with Gwynevere... and Lautrec tries to lay the charm on the first girl he finds in Lordran.
No episode next week, as I'm on holiday, but the next one is coming soon!
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[@crazyinsane500]

I didn't even free him and he still found a way to kill the fire keeper. He's too good at Dark Souls.

[@SilverMont]

crazyinsane500 He finds his way out of the cell, even if we don't save him, cheeky guy

[@letvolir6490]

Silver Mont I hate we had to kill him. He is such a badass character. His voice sounds awesome.

[@JoseJose-sh7fr]

Yeah I thought guy was cool, untill he fucking stabbed me in back by killing the fire keeper, screw him.

[@vader1361]

crazyinsane500 I killed him and he still found a way to kill the fire keeper. His Power Level: 9001 Also: i think he has hax. Also forgot to mention: at the normal point where you fight Lautrec, he is somehow... back. I think either he has hax or my PC is broke. Ideas?

[@JoseJose-sh7fr]

you find the black eye orb on the fire keeper's corpse. It reads something about that is the residue of hate and vengeance itself. Once you're at the main hall before smough and orenstein you can invade him as a black spirit and kill his ass. then you get the choice of using the fire keeper's soul to revive her or use for estus reinforcement.

[@tigerboar10]

Solaire, the happy newcomer to Lordran (as it seems) who is willing to talk to many and gather many friends. Lautrec, the bitter veteran of Lordran, who tricks many and kills those who he despises.

[@thefreeviper4511]

if you put it that way i like lautrec better

[@xxx4820]

tigerboar10 if you put it that way it sounds like your describing the ds community

[@DeviantDespot]

He curses patches in one of his dialogues, I always assume Patches tricked him into the cell.

[@SilverMont]

Patches must've crossed him in some manner, but I hope Lautrec wasn't so stupid as to fall for something like: "Hey Lautrec, I hear there's treasure in that tiny little open prison-cell!"

[@DeviantDespot]

So the wizard enemy who shows nothing but malice towards decides to capture rather than kill and individual. That seems a bit of a stretch. I think the dialogue in game is a greater verification of what occurred than theories about enemy placement. And if people are throwing out theories, then couldn't clever patches have kicked him in, like he did the player, this time into a cell.

[@SilverMont]

DeviantDespot "Even after the onset of Seath's madness, the "snatchers" as they were often called, ventured to far lands to find suitable human specimens." - from the Channeler's set.

[@FaizanShaikh02]

@@DeviantDespot those channelers capture people for seaths experiments. They wouldn't kill him.

[@SerLoinSteak]

Something that might be worth mentioning is that the Crestfallen warrior, when he talks about Anastacia, says that she probably had her tongue cut out back in her village, so that she'd never say any god's name in vain. Perhaps the god's name she said in vain was Fina's and this is why Lautrec kills her

[@mustekkala]

I have a theory that Lautrec was sent from Carim to stop the undead plague by killing the firekeepers and therefore stopping undeads from "respawning". He might have been a criminal who had his last chance of redemption and was knighted because it is most likely a suicide mission and so he wouldn't raise as much questions or something.

[@mustekkala]

adekaiwamisou Really? Just something i wrote when i was really really drunk. :D

[@kain5707]

+adekaiwamisou This is all speculation and my opinion but even though he may seem like a bad person by the way he talks but in all honesty he does give you a good bit of information, now why I think he killed the firekeeper is that knowing you are this supposed hero or chosen undead he figured after killing the firekeeper he thought that you would invade his world to take back the firekeeper soul to save her which by doing so will revive her with her tongue and legs unbroken instead of being in the state she was. Like i said its my thought about it maybe it was for his own greed or for the god he was in love with or maybe he new youd save her and bring her back to a healthier state.

[@MsHarpsychord]

it's not perfect Since we know the chosen undead can light the bonfires themselves (respectively making You the player a Fire Keeper) Examples include the Two Bonfires in the Dark Root Garden/Basin. The Catacombs etc. So many Undead can Choose to become FireKeepers. The Reason they "hang around" these fires in most likely to protect themselves. Since They can not be hollowed and all they have to do is sit around all day keeping the fire lit. It's a pretty sweet deal. No Wars to go to. No Bosses Etc. Just chill and keep the fire lit. Infinite Humanity? Fuck ya. The only burden to bare is the boredom.

[@ItsGmezPoy]

Figured it out most likely. Its clear he was searching for something in Anor Londo, now think about this. His dead body is past Ornstein and Smough, and also at a location whereby we can safely assume he spoke to Gwynevere. His alive body the one you fight, is positioned opposite the Ornstein and Smough boss room. Since time is distorted in Lordran, perhaps you invade him at the point in which he was making his way towards the boss room, however the door behind him is closed, this may suggest that he closed the door to keep the monsters out, and then you arrived. But if he was the one to close the door, in your own dimension pretend you never fight Lautrec. What you do need to do, is open the door, that perhaps he closed. Meaning, he already passed through in your dimension. With the aid of his two friends he still could not kill Ornstein and Smough, however he was gravely injured, and made it to the elevator using his friends as bait. He makes it up the elevator, and goes in to see Gwynevere thinking he has succeeded, he has finally found his goddess, to his dismay, it is not her. He falls into despair, and aimless walks away, he cannot go down the elevator for only death awaits (Ornstein and Smough), so he simply goes left, and waits in despair whilst his wounds slowly kill him. Not only does this hypothesis fit the typical scenario we see in Dark Souls lore but it also answers all those questions like why his body was there, e.g. if he what he was after was indeed Gwynevere then why is his dead body as far away from her as possible whilst avoiding Ornstein and Smough. ;D This also reinforces the notion that he was indeed searching for his goddess. And as this video explains it seems he is not confident in his own powers. Remember, the more humanity you have, the stronger your defense is, meaning it gives you power. Perhaps he sought not humanity as a gift, but to strengthen himself. In a land where he cannot trust anyone but power, he blindly pursues his salvation the goddess, only to die alone and in despair in a nameless corner, and the ring he has seems to have broken upon death, that is why you dont get the ring at his body, because he dies, he loses the goddesses favor and protection, so at the end, even his beloved goddess betrays him. Dam thats sad. Or, before he dies, he takes the ring off, for he has lost all hope and it breaks and he dies? because i think you dont pick that ring up where you find his body, and it wont disappear on death, only when removed.

[@SilverMont]

I do believe you're on the right line! I also think I'd be interested to see Lautrec and his two buddies against Ornstein and Smough. He had a pretty good set-up; even had his own ranged caster to pelt Smough with!

[@andrewjames9051]

What an excellent post dude, good read.

[@nicanordawnmourne4443]

I like your thinking on this and I think I could say something which would add to it. So if we go by your theory that he managed to pass through Ornstein and Smough (could happen if his friends distracting them ), he could talk with Gwynevere and realize that he was mistaken regarding his goddess. On his way out though when he finished consulting with Gwynevere he would face with Ornstein, who meanwhile got back to the upper level ( From where he jumps off when they fight against you, in your timeline. ) So maybe he was battling with him and have been gravely wounded and Ornstein just left him since death was already knocking on his doorstep anyway. So he crawled to that corner where we find him and died there.

[@jasonslade6259]

Its pretty clear that several of the NPCs in the game are there to represent types of players that you could meet via online play. There are plenty of occasions where NPCs are used in the exact same context as real people in online play. Perhaps to teach new players how the online functions of the game work. Solarie introduces the concept of White runes and Whine Phantoms helping you defeat bosses, and he is functionally identical to a person summoned with the white sign soapstone. So Solarie teaches the player how co-op works. Red Phantoms like Man-eater Mildred function exactly like an online play Red Phantom (aside from their loot). They only appear when you are Human and only appear in a level where you haven't killed the boss yet. They exist to teach the player how Invasions work. Lautrec represents the 'sinner'. The kind of person that you'd attack using the blue eye orb since he kills a friendly NPCs for loot and references taking humanity from 'fools'. Lautrec's purpose, from a game design standpoint, is to inform the player of how Sin and Blue Phantom invasions work. Teaching the player, in a roundabout way, that there are consequences for killing your NPCs. Likewise the fact that Lautrec "Forsook everything" to follow his goddess is likely is a reference to receiving Sin for abandoning a covenant.

[@SilverMont]

I think I talked about this a little on the Siegmeyer video, but it's def a theory that I quite like! Like how Siegmeyer can represent the player who relies on phantoms/help too much.

[@knightpaladin9841]

let him kill the firekeeper wanted the dingy set 11/10 worth it

[@SilverMont]

+zebro S'a good set

[@knightpaladin9841]

Silver Mont yeh i combine it with the wonderer set

[@knightswhountilrecentlysai77]

+Silver Mont Say, we know that Anastacia's tongue was cut off, and in one of the crestfallen warriors dialogue he says that he thinks it is because she spoke of some divine entity's name in vain and hence was deemed as impure. Could it be that the entity mentioned was Fina, of which Lautrec came to know of and in spite decided to kill Anastacia ?

[@SilverMont]

10zing~ Potentially, yeah. Although nobody else seems to know/care about Fina, besides Lautrec. She's never mentioned all that much!

[@knightswhountilrecentlysai77]

Well, that's true too. It could quite possibly be that Fina is just a figment of Lautrec's imagination. Pretty much every character in the game obsesses over his/her "mission" , Fina could be lautrec's mission ? If that makes any sense I guess. Anyways, love your content . Waiting for Dks3 lore . Cheers

[@larrywolf2509]

To be frank, the simplest option seems usually the most believable... The gods of the world all seem patterned and imitating Greek-style gods in their stories, roles and pettiness (heck, most are just a namechange away). I've always figured that Lautrec worshipped Fina, a goddess of beauty, and hence went around basically acting in a way a chaotic evil man worshipping Aphrodite would... by slaying all the world's beautiful women who might cause his goddess to be jealous or cause other mortals to cast doubt on the goddess' claim to be the most beautiful. Lautrec simply roams about, killing beautiful females, taking their souls and bringing them back to his goddess as proof of his love for her - all the while ensuring that Fina remains the most beautiful female. I believe when you invade him, he's on his way most likely to kill his world's Gwynevere, but you interrupt him... There's nothing terribly mysterious about it, it just isn't spelled out, I guess.

[@IZEROxCOOLI]

Makes far more sense

[@camiloprieto3814]

I would've never though about it in this way. Nice work.

[@KomodoMagic]

Nice theory :)

[@gnuhgnauqneyugn]

@@MatSkanzo Well the whole game is all about whether or not we should sacrifice ourselves to prolong the Age of Fire, going against the natural cycle of ages, or just let the Age of Dark begin naturally. After all, when the Age of Dark ends, a new Flame will rise again.

[@nexuz5507]

"Have You heard Of, Trusty Patches ? If ever a Man has Rubbed me up the wrong way Uurgh! If he comes around again, I swear i`ll have his Hide !" I think Patches locked him up in he Prison, But thats my take On it Though

[@jonathangomez4203]

I want to hear Lautrec say "....I'm Batman..."

[@MrSuvvri]

maybe lautrec didnt want to kill you because you freed him

[@JGrilo]

"Like a moth flittering towards a flame" just like the dark souls II intro

[@Gensolink]

"we just don't know what we entail." *see him trying to cut the gapin dragon's tail* I loled

[@officialREZNIIKZ]

Upon reviewing your idea about Lautrec being a peasant, it seems fitting that his weapons are Shotels. These being curved swords with the same mannerisms of Sickles, and we know that a sickle is used to farm grain or crops. Perhaps he used to have a job that would require such work, and his newfound weaponry seemed the most reliable for him. The Shotel also acts as a metaphor for Lautrec himself, for it is a devious weapon that is used to surpass even the most capable shields, rendering them obsolete. Lautrec of course surpassing the defenses of the Burg, Firelink Shrine etc. And his deviousness does not go unseen either, what with his slaying of the Firelink Shrine firekeeper. A lot of speculation, just food for thought. Great vid by the way. Subbed.

[@NFrk97]

A lot of people hate Lautrec, but you have to give him credit where credit is due. He managed to beat the Iron Golem, and possibly Smough and Ornstein by himself while duel wielding and having a parrying dagger. The guy is an uber badass. Possibly the biggest badass of the NPCs. And for some reason, I feel as though Lautrec might not be an Undead.

[@JohnMcFallumthelordof]

Simp perhaps?

[@fikrynugraha5044]

am i the only one who thinks he's really nice the first time i freed him :O

[@siegmeyerofcaterina1228]

yes you are

[@jones95jb]

No I thought that too :'D

[@crystallizard007]

I know I'm late to the party but concerning Lautrec having a sunlight medal...I believe that it's just a gameplay thing. You free Lautrec and then you fight gargoyles where you can summon Solaire and Lautrec. After successful Gargoyle battle Lautrec received Sunlight medal from Solaire, which he has no use for so he gives it to us. I think that's how you explain him having the medal. Now even if you don't fight gargoyles he still has it but that's just because I don't think you're supposed to travel all the way from Parish to Firelink shrine just to talk to him therefor I don't think he's supposed to award you before the Gargoyle fight at all but since player can talk to him it's just a gameplay consideration that he gives you Sunlight medal even before the fight.

[@paulkokenes6205]

"...her ring, used by so many players, it's quite possibly magical" HAHAHA Silvermont that was some grade A+ tongue in cheek slap-dashery :) :) :)

[@siegmeyeronionbro3609]

There's another prevailing theory about why he killed the firekeeper, It's believed that the firekeeper soul you find in the chapel was going to be sacrificed to Fina by him, (until he somehow gets locked in the cell) but since we take it he kills and takes another one in order to sacrifice that one

[@SilverMont]

That would make sense, as that Soul is directly beneath him, more or less.

[@TheEternalVanguard]

Lautrec was my favourite character, I wish he was in the later installments

[@BetaNights]

This was actually quite interesting. I liked it! One theory, if I may add, regarding the reward he gives you for freeing him. Time is distorted in Lordran, as we all well know. This leads to various time-warped encounters, such as some events/meetings with Beatrice. Given this, is it not possible that because both times Lautrec can be summoned, it is also alongside Solaire, that he could have gained a Sunlight Medal of his own while helping you in some distorted timeline? Seeing as how he would find little use in it (I doubt he would care to offer it to a Covenant that worships the sun/a god other than Fina.), he may have passed it on to you instead. Might just be my own conjecture there, but given what you said about Solaire and Lautrec being summonable together a couple times, it gave me the idea. Thanks for the video!

[@SilverMont]

BetaNights Shows how much he thinks of Solaire's medals, huh?

[@BetaNights]

Silver Mont Pretty much. ^^" I doubt he had any interest in using them for anything. :P

[@Squantoon]

Either way fun to speculate. Love your videos by the way. keep it up.

[@Khamis1203]

I was just looking for lore! Thanks so much this is so perfectly specific for what I wanted haha XD

[@1ozoutlaw969]

Lord Shrek

[@iDarkTea]

Once I heard his laugh in the jail cell I killed him...after 8 tries anyways haha

[@SilverMont]

Such a mean one, you are!

[@Fraggr92]

Silver Mont Considering what he's gonna do, i don't mind being a bit mean from time to time. Nobody messes with my firekeepers and gets away with it, damn it! I only wish i knew before. But now that i do, i'm gonna simply kill him when i see him in other playthroughs, his armor be damned!

[@ryanriley6471]

Fraggr92 After he kills her, if you go and kill him, the fire keeper soul he drops can be used to revive her. Just go to her little cage and you can interact with it.

[@Fraggr92]

FinbarQ Finnigan Of course. I'm just not giving him the chance to kill her in the first place. Plus it saves me the trouble of having to fight his little butt-buddies in Anor Londo :P

[@SilverMont]

I saw a thread about Lautrec after I made this video, and somebody pointed out the Firekeeper Soul in the Undead Parish, which led me to speculate whether or not Lautrec had killed a Firekeeper in the Parish and then been locked up by either Oswald or the Channeler (who we know is interested in such maidens) and whether or not his goal/mission is indeed to kill the Firekeepers! But if that were the case, why didn't he touch the Anor Londo Firekeeper? She is hard to miss! ...But also quite hard.

[@dragonsneedtobereal]

I have enjoyed this lore series so much. Totally sub'd. These have been great listening to in the background as I work in a mundane office. Great work and your voice could easily be a Souls' NPC haha.

[@SilverMont]

Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying them.

[@NinjaFlipsTV]

Good amount of insight.

[@boru1982]

Loved the edited audio of Anastasia's last moments at the end of this video. Fits together very well.

[@SilverMont]

Thanks!

[@john-b2224]

Maybe Patches tricked him and locked him up? That would explain his hate for Patches.

[@dubbeking]

Holy crap, Silver! You got popular! I've watched you since 300 subs, so as a long-time follower, I say congrats!

[@SilverMont]

Thanks! And thanks for watching. And yeah it's pretty crazy... a year ago I had less than 100 subs! I made a vid recently talking about such channel stuff and how it kinda exploded, as it happens.

[@IslanKleinknecht]

Wait, how are his companions not phantoms? They look like summoned White Phantoms to me.

[@SilverMont]

I wasn't very clear when I said that, apologies. What I meant is, as far as we know, they aren't characters from other parts of the game. As in, they aren't phantoms that WE can summon or interact with - they are presumably just other "undead" who he summoned with the white soapstone.

[@IslanKleinknecht]

Silver Mont Ah, I see. Yeah, they're just some random "player" representations.

[@valfalos997]

Silver Mont one of the phantoms is the third sealer of new londo but he doesnt wear his mask since he abandoned his duty.

[@IslanKleinknecht]

Valfalos And where'd you get that one from?

[@willymite4119]

Nick Clinite certain items say that one of the sealers abandoned his post and the phantom is wearing the sealer gear without the mask

[@quetch2]

i'd be quite interested in seeing a part 4 of this series dealing with the darkmoon knightess. she wealds a parrying dagger which is a weapon of carim, and alongside lautrec is one of the 2 shiniest human characters in the game. it's about as solid as cheasters link to carim, and as the only non villainous person from there she's curious by contrast

[@Truecaveman1999]

I believe in ds3 the embraced set mentions that Fina is actually a demoness. Makes sense, she seemed disturbing obsessive for a goddess of love.

[@SilverMont]

Love can turn sour real quick, after all!

[@1128nesecret]

its funny I typed in carim lore and found this I always find your videos in under a day

[@baronteapot4265]

I like this! It may just be idle speculation, but that's what the whole game is based on. :-) You've got quite a soothing voice.

[@arthurkurbedzis]

I like him as a part of DS1, a mysterious villain who strikes from nowhere.

[@SilverMont]

How could we not want to trust a guy with such fancy armour, right?

[@reaper4931]

i love you your voice !! :D you got yourself a new sub ^^

[@SilverMont]

Thanks!

[@roberteppich4046]

his armor and his association with it always reminded me of creighton the wanderer, just as you mentioned the possibility that the sun medal Lautrec gives you might be from a dead sun bro, the armor also might be from someone else he slated, if he is from a low birth as you assume this would make sense since how else would he have gotten it, it also plays into his association with being summoned with Solaire a lot, you look at solaire and see a self made man and self made armor, you looks at Lautrec and you hear his voice and his words and compared to Solaire he is a brute in shiny armor

[@MrSorrycharlie]

Lautrec's armor and ring of favor and protection were given by Fina. Lautrec's actions suggest he is fighting against the gods and intends to end human subjugation and suffering. Killing the firekeeper and fighting his way through Anor Londo, destroying Gwynevere's illusion and bringing darkness to the city of the gods. We fight against him as a darkmoon blade, and he says we are acting like a moth to the flame. He is saying we are foolish to sacrifice ourselves to the gods. He knows something.

[@Kravockian]

I think lautrec is one of the possible candidates for the son of gywn

[@dumbsterdives]

Maybe....... he does seem to want to end the Age of Fire by killing the firekeepers....... maybe to get back at his father?

[@Corundrom]

No one we meet in game is the Son of Gywn, as that was unfinished, if it had been finished, it would have been the blacksmith in the Undead(for some reason spellcheck doesn't know what undead is), Parish(who's name I'm blanking on, starts with an A I believe)

[@dumbsterdives]

Corundrom Ah... Andre of Astora...... never thought about that.....

[@Kravockian]

Corundrom Andre of Astora was "Meant to be a distant blood relative." but this idea was scrapped as it was rushed to market. It doesn't mean that we are or are not introduced to the first born in the game.

[@dumbsterdives]

Peter Rhea Now that i think about it, Andre does have the same scruffy beard syndrome that Gwyn has

[@Guardianshrine]

i think lautrec could have had a 4th purpose. as we know patches hates clerics, lautrec and patches both hate each other but it seems to have been started by patches. the way of white covenant seeks the rite of kindling for the flame... to protect it. and in the description for the estus flask it says "an emrald flask from the firekeepers soul. she lives to protect the flame, AND DIES TO PROTECT IT FURTHER" so maybe lautrec was allying himself with the clerics and killed the firekeeper to protect the flame.

[@raidkoast]

As soon as i saw him, i knew he had som shit up... So i kicked him of the cliff.

[@SilverMont]

Didn't even give him a chance! Poor Lautrec.

[@PanzerIVAE]

THIS!!! IS!!!! LOOORRRDDAAAAANNN!!!!!

[@suburbannegro411]

What happens if you do that?

[@TheSithlord259]

suburbannegro411 lautrec dies and you lose your chances of getting his armor set. the fire keeper never dies and you never get to hear her talk.

[@KungfuKid24]

He probably got the medallion from fighting the gargoyles with you and Solaire

[@lazarmartin5993]

If you free him, then go back to firelink shrine and talk to him he give you the medallion . Before the gargoyles .

[@KungfuKid24]

Time in Lordran is distorted, remember

[@FusterCluck678]

The mage who accompanies Lautrec when you invade him was one of the Sealers of New Londo, who went rogue(it is this one because he took off the Mask of the Sealer but still wears the robes). The second Sealer was a healer and he traveled to Blighttown to help with the blight, you find his robes. The third and final Sealer we meet on the roof and blah blah. But the rogue Sealer probably helped Lautrec along his journeys to Anor Londo (or as I call it Anal Rodeo). The spear guy I have no clue of his story. Possibly maybe perhaps, the rogue Sealer freed him from the cell if you fail to do so?? Or the other guy, idk. But possibly maybe. Carim and Astora are the 2 main places above all others I would absolutely love to visit. Vinheim next.

[@RogueBlood343]

if you notice lautrec's world is dark meaning he killed the illusion of gwynivere, he may have considered her a false goddess or something like that

[@reflexassassin]

Lolwut? It isn't dark...

[@mortemtool1783]

If I don't remember wrong, Patches (I think it's him) warns you about him..

[@sirernest546]

I think the reason he does not consume the Firekeeper Soul is to give it to Fina as a gift. Think about it, he craves her love, even going as far as travelling to Anor Londo, which isn't a small feat. Maybe he felt the need to "buy" her affection with a rare item and when he realised the opportunity, he seized it - taking the life of poor Anastacia. Perhaps he saw this as the only way to win his dear Fina - and deal with his jealousy -, as a gift of such immense worth would surely please a goddess and make her fall for him, right? Well, at least that is what he thinks. His obsession with Fina is probably based on her beauty. That and his armor is evidence enough to see that he is a completely superficial person. He probably does not realise that, although his present is of unimaginable value, his goddess might be appalled by his atrocity that he commited. How could he? After all, he is a Psychopath.

[@SilverMont]

Sir Ernest But as we know, you can't curry favour with firekeeper souls!

[@GreatKingIso]

I live on the streets because of those things

[@PassingNeet]

i believe that the canon in the scenario with the reward is dependent on the time flow of lordran. the most popular and well based series is that (assuming you summon both of them) he gives you the sunlight medal he would have gotten from the bell gargoyle fight. you do have to go to firelink and talk to him first, but the timeflow of lordran is distorted, and such a small loop seems entirely plausible

[@addiccusphinch9172]

There is the theory that Lautrec uses the fire keeper souls as some form of tribute to Fina. He takes Anastacias, but he wont kill her till one of two conditions are met. Either you ring both bells of awakening, or you pick up both FKS in the undead parish, and in blighttown. That cant be coincidence that picking up those FKS make Lautrec needy for another.

[@Dave_Ger]

Silvermont, Carim is an interesting place as well many other places. You should do lore videos about places.

[@SilverMont]

Dman04151 Yeah? Generally I've stuck to covering characters in these videos, as opposed to areas etc. But it might be worth looking into!

[@gavywavy1420]

Silver Mont yeah u should! Davecontrollive did a video on ash lake which was very informative for a starting player like me

[@AbsolXGuardian]

My headcanon/theory is that Fina was Gwyn's wife, based on the fact that Filianore breaks the Gwyn naming scheme, and his first born might have been named Faraam. Part of her divine power was spent to create the firekeepers, before her affair with a dragon resulted in Yorshka and drove the Nameless King to side with the dragons. So it's very fitting that Lautrec wants to offer a firekeepers souls to his dead goddess, who he believes resides in Anor Londo and mistakes Gwynevere for.

[@ArtietheArchon]

Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, the Romulans from Star Trek, all would probably concur with Lautrec's strategy in regards to the acquisition of humanity. The highest reward for the least risk was the Fire Keeper Soul; the player is comparatively a non-starter

[@SilverMont]

+Jadervason Yeah, he just didn't account for the fact that the firekeeper is extremely useful to us. And generally speaking you don't want to piss somebody off who is going to keep coming after you, no matter how many times you kill them. He dun goofed there.

[@ArtietheArchon]

+Silver Mont I don't know, he seems to be as ready for you as possible when you eventually come calling

[@josepholiveira946]

+Artie the Swolest Man in the World Still... We are tecnicaly the worst nightmare of anyone being invaded. We will come back forever. Sleeping ? Invasion ! Eating ? Invasion ! Working ? Invasion! Reading a Book? Invasion! 'We are a nightmare' (Bloodborn reference)

[@ArtietheArchon]

+Joseph Oliveira you raise an interesting point concerning whether or not NPCs invading one another would return ad infinitum as the player can

[@josepholiveira946]

+Artie the Swolest Man in the World It makes me think if Dark Souls is like a... Multiverse (Sorry i am not English). There are infinite universes of Dark Souls next to one another. And Lautrec could be the main character of another universe of Dark Souls. A greed Player (Npc, Human or not Existance).

[@Parallelwarfare]

I did not know that you could find his armor there. I guess it is true that you find something new every time you play :)

[@Trinket_Master]

nice vid thanks for the information from the moment i met laurtrec i had a feeling he was sort of sleezy and sly

[@kanokiljoy5582]

He fights with you in the gargoyle fight. Thus earning sun metals

[@jaymattt8512]

This is old and I’ve seen it quite a few times, I’m just playing through ds1 again. but he clearly killed gwynevere considering the place is dark.

[@SilverMont]

Well, if we go with the theory that he killed a Firekeeper in the Parish, he doesn't use her soul either. He just leaves it there - as a warning? And he carries the Ash Maiden's soul with him until we kill him, likely as a trophy, is my thinking. But why would Fina want to end the Firekeepers? She could have her own reasons, or maybe she is actually an illusion made by Kaathe or some incarnation of the Abyss/Dark.

[@TouhouSignListening]

I think Lautrec was once a henchmen of Gwyndolin. Most people dont know about the Firekeepers being "lumps-of-Humanity" and this stuff. Lautrecs senses seem enhanced. Maybe he can measure about how much Humanity a target has just by looking at it? Also he looked like he was expecting you as Blue Phantom and knew how to summon other Phantoms for help. I guess he was one of the people Gwyndolin tried to use but it backfired and he decided to use everything for himself.

[@givmtheboot1]

I think the "dark player" angle is right. His armor set could have been stolen/pillaged from another npc he killed. This would explain the counter between his demeanor and armor. He is focused on getting humanity, much like the player. Perhaps he is afraid of going hollow, which seems to be inevitable. Eventually, he will run out of humanity. Inevitability seems to be a central theme, such as the fires eventually burning out. Maybe he seeks his god to find a way to live forever/avoid hallowing. Then, after learning that nothing can be done, wanders off and kills himself (so as to avoid eventual hollowing). I assume he locked himself away. Think about it. Channelers don't imprison people. They kill them. I take it he locked himself in the cell to gain the player's sympathy, in hopes he could kill the player for gear/humanity. Alternatively, he sought to use the player as a stepping stone to progress further (the way players often use summons to help them). Isn't it odd, once you free him, he doesn't just walk away? I know that could be a programming issue, but it (along with his relaxed pose) shows he isn't in any hurry. It also explains how he gets out if the player doesn't free him. However, he discovers that the player is too strong and decides to attack with a couple of others later. He may have also been in the parish for the firekeeper soul- only to find out it was guarded by knights and a channeler. So, he just lets you do the work.

[@Carzeyday]

Seems like a darkplayer. Hides behind a small army of 2. Taunts, when he starts losing resorts to running away. Likes to try and get behind you. But, like most..he is weak..3 swings..HE'S OUT!

[@quinteson2853]

Lautrec really sounds like Mark Hamill at times.

[@MrSorrycharlie]

Very good video, at first glance Lautrec seems like a bad guy but I expect there is more to him. I wouldn't be surprised if we learn more about Carim in Dark Souls 2...

[@TheFlamingPike]

If there was a Dark Souls movie, I'd easily imagine him as the main antagonist. But in some way he is exactly what you are - the player - just like the narrator says in this video. He's like the image you'd get if you looked at your own soul in a mirror. I think the truth lies in Anastacia's mysterious backstory. He's the most interesting character in the whole franchise, along with Oswald who seems to know a LOT about what's going on. Interestingly enough, both of them are from Carim.

[@SilverMont]

A Dark Souls movie would be entertaining because there isn't much "good and bad" going on. It's just various shades of asshole. Lautrec and Patches don't get along, after all. And they are both assholes to the player.

[@saltyslug2637]

First time I met Patches was on that bridge in the Catacombs and I knew he was tricky so as I was crossing the bridge I said "Patches I swear to god if you flip this bri-GODDAMMIT PATCHES YOUR FUCKING DEAD!"

[@SilverMont]

"I was resting on the lever and I slipped :^)"

[@1ZombieRob]

as soon as you heard him laugh you were like "this dude is pure 100% evilanium"

[@AcasualGamer1]

Lautrec is the the only hero in Dark Souls. But that's harder to understand. He succeed where Oscar failed. He is a knight but not of noble descent thus using all means necessary to end the curse is acceptable for him even tho he takes no pleasure in his work but he'll do what it needs to be done. Like Alexander the Great, he's cutting the knot by extinguishing the accursed spawn points. No firekeeper enjoys the firekeeping task, Anastacia only wants to die a human and Lautrec gives her that. It may not appear so, but in that cursed world, Lautrec's murder of Anastacia is an act of mercy, he ends her pain, as a true knight should. It is actually the player who is the despicable here by reviving her and denying her the death she actually wanted, re-enslaving her to her eternal duty ... in that cage. TLDR: Lautrec is the good guy in this awful dark story and a successful one at that, until the player comes along. "Appearances can be deceiving" and "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" come to mind.

[@CrayvenCarnage]

I suspected this as well. The part where he talks about humanity while staring at the firekeeper is more of him trying to find some form of justification for it other than mercy. I think this since he takes the firekeeper's soul but he doesn't use it.

[@AcasualGamer1]

CrayvenCarnage He already has the justification (ending the undead curse) which, as noble it may be, still conflicts with his principles. That generates inner turmoil which can be overcome'd by a brave soul and a true knight. that's the true nature of bravery not fearlessness. Lautrec is the only one who shows that. He takes it cause it would be safer with him, otherwise any nitwit would find it, restore the firekeeper and perpetuate the curse. If he would be truly malevolent he would kill you on sight and he could succeed easily especially when you first meet him. The sunlight medals in his and the Gaping Dragon boss fight only reinforce the fact he's a good/helping guy (he fought previously alongside Solaire but his pessimistic attitude throws us off, he actually has it cause he feels that he's fighting a losing battle yet he's resolve is admirable, like a true knight should be).

[@theanarchistcook]

I think Fina is Velka! I think the Fire Keeper Soul in the Undead Parish is there because of him, maybe because he killed a fire keeper there and was caught, or because he offered the soul to the statue there. But I think the statue there and at the other nearby bonfire is of Fina, who is some kind of "mother" goddess, and the wife of Gwyn. I think the baby in those statues is the Nameless King, and that's why Solaire uses the same sword. I like to think of Gwyn as an ambitious man who was twisted by his lust for power, and eventually alienated everyone around him. His firstborn abandoned him to save the dragons from genocide, his wife had an affair with Seath (producing Gwyndolin and Priscilla) and eventually left him because he exiled their son. His daughter abandoned him when it was clear his rule was coming to an end. Ironically, only Gwyndolin remained loyal, maybe even desperate for his approval, even after being treated as a shameful secret. I think his parentage was the reason he was raised as a daughter: so his tentacles could be hidden under a dress. I think once Fina turned against Gwyn she was banished to the Painted World along with Priscilla and became Velka. She dedicated herself to overthrowing her husband, and devised the prophecy as a means to that end. She and her worshippers are based in the Painted World (maybe they created it, maybe they were banished there), and I think they plotted the unsuccessful rebellion against the gods.

[@SilverMont]

That is a pretty good theory!

[@pickleIOfwar]

I really hated the fight with him, i killed him on my initial playthrough after hearing what he had to say about the firekeeper. On NG+ i took him on in Anor Londo and the fight was plain ridiculous (then straight on to Ornstein and smough) i really like his character though, he has a really interesting background and this video describes him perfectly. who is your favourite character in DS1? Mine is either Seath, Ornstein or With of Izalith.

[@LK-cp8re]

Regarding how he got locked up, it's really likely that that was that case when he met Patches

[@MrSuvvri]

+Lll Kk lol this just reminds me about patches locking up the other guy in ds2 before skeleton king fight

[@quetch2]

perhaps fina is gwyns wife. anor londo would indeed be where she resides (or resided, we have no idea if she's still alive), and it would make a certain amount of sense for her to possess "fateful beauty" since gwyn, the most powerful being in the world, fell in love with her. likewise, there could be parallels between her and her daughter, the mother being the goddess of beauty while the daughter is the goddess of fertility. we see plenty of statues of gwyns wife across the map holding her three children, so worship or at least respect of her is clearly widespread throughout lordran. the only bit i can't get to add up is fina's cloying love wherein you're never allowed to leave her; this could have been a trait of gwyns wife but we just don't know. all of this is assuming that fina is the same kind of god as the anor londo lot, but the subject of gods is a little bizarre in dark souls. we have gwyn and his family who are all gods, but then we have others like velka who are completely different. then there's people like allfather lloyed and flame god flaan, neither could be decedents of gwyn so how did they get souls powerful enough to be considered gods? and for that matter, how is it possible for gwyn to have an uncle? i don't believe the pre-fire hollows had any kind of families, they just existed like the dragons; so how did gwyn as the first of his species end up not only with parents but an uncle too? tl;dr, fina might be gwyns wife and dark souls gods make no sense.

[@tysonhardy5970]

"sitting dead across from the fire keeper"... hehe dead firekeeper slick B-)

[@StairFacts]

A bit unrelated, but I think that the location of his armor is related to his intentions to kill the Darkmoon Knightess. Perhaps he assumed that in order to draw the Firekeeper out of her bonfire and to destroy her god, Gwyndolin, he would need to kill Gwynevere, and then Gwyndolin. However, he was pursued and killed by the Darkmoon Knightess or the unknown NPC knights that you find inside the main hall in Anor Londo, hence his armor's location.

[@MikhailDePrivee]

Here's an interesting thought; Lautrec was probably outnumbered and locked up, which could explain why there are so many enemies in that room with the Channeller before the Gargoyle boss fight.

[@Marcushelly]

One of my favorite theories about Lautrec's reason for killing the Anastacia looks at his admiration for a god named "fina" and what Anastacia has done. I forget what the derivation was from, but people found that fina can be translated to some form of "gwenevyre" and that likely it is one in the same. Anastacia is mute because she possesses no tongue, likely punishment for her crime of speaking against the gods. This is why she refuses to speak to you even after having it restored post-Lautrec death. I dont know if this fits in with the rest of the lore around him / her, but I think it's a pretty interesting and solid one on its own.

[@SilverMont]

***** Fina is a shortened form of Josephine/Josefina which itself comes from Yosef or something, IIRC. Gwynevere has some obvious links with Guinevere which meant "white lady" or something, but I'm not sure what the link is between the two. Not that I'm doubting it, because the meaning and history behind names is pretty complex so I wouldn't doubt a connection being present in some form

[@Exnir]

i think its important to mention, that the lore of Lautrec is much more connected to Anastasia than you speak of, for instance the lack of her tongue in the start, where she is utter speechless, That the first npc at the bonfire, the crestfallen dude mentions: "they probably cut out her tongue back in her village, so she wouldn't say another gods name in vain" suggesting that Lautrec is actually a punisher of the unfaithful.

[@SilverMont]

Joe Bastian You think? I'm not sure about that. He says "That Firekeeper has served me well, but... enough with her." Kinda gives me the impression that he was moving on and had no more use for her, so he decided to kill her and take her soul.

[@TheJadeFist]

If you think he represents other players, like Solaire, maybe he's just a player that decided to randomly attack an npc for no real reason, that happens some times. And like the player he starts locked up, and then gets free. And like the player he has an unclear mission.

[@beyond560]

awesome video :D i think lautrec was locked up by patches this would explain how they know each other

[@23lopis]

I theorize that Lautrec was imprisoned by the Balder knights who were in the Undead Parish after he murdered a Fire Keeper, Whose soul we find laying on the slab and being guarded by a Black knight, and three Balder knights and the channeler that was there just happened to be one of many seeth sent out. Upon killing the hoard of undead and channeler and gaining the soul of the fire keeper, you will notice that there is one single balder knight walking away from the direction at which we find Lautrec, when we see it, it is walking down the stairs and toward us as though it were leaving something behind (its shield nor weapon is drawn until it sees us and attempts to stop our action). The knights in an attempt to assure Lautrec would be contained, tactfully hid his cell away so that no one would free him.

[@SilverMont]

Could be the case!

[@j4ckomc]

To add to your thoughts on Lautrec starting out as a peasant is it not possible that he became a knight due to becoming "embraced" by the goddess Fina

[@EvilDoresh]

Maybe he just pretends to be a knight? This might explain his lack of faith in his fighting skills.

[@ThePointlessBox_]

i never completed dark souls since i dont know where to go so i just run in circles,i think im not even close to anor londo but i always look forward to dueling this guy,and i want that swanky armor

[@fatesear2028]

Lautrec. he represents our bad side in dark soul. for example. I would be summoned to the forest as a red phantom and as soon as I bow I get backstabbed by a white phantom or a phantom of the sunlight covenant. all and all Lautrec can't be trusted. the only reason to let him kill the fire keeper is so you can get his armor.

[@AdamStaticC]

Can you show your character eg the spells/miricals/pyromancys and items?

[@abysswatchers6670]

What if when you don't free him, Solaire does and gives him a medal

[@beehivecity]

I think Lautrec is a Chaos Servant, and the Fina he refers to is The Fair Lady. Lautrec is obsessed with collecting humanity, just like Kirk, who we know for a fact is a Chaos Servant. Also like Kirk, Lautrec seems like an evil character but when you look at him closely he might not be...though perhaps misguided. He takes the Fire Keeper Soul from Anastacia, which gives quite a lot of humanity when used, but does not use it himself. I believe he is trying to take it, and any other humanity he has gathered, to The Fair Lady. This might also be why he is so cautious, because he probably has quite a bit of liquid humanity on him and is worried about losing it, just like how a player would. His Embraced Armor Of Favor has arms molded on it to look like a hug, but it is also similar to the pose The Fair Lady's arms are in, though in the later's case it might just be to cover her breasts. As for why he ends up all the way in Anor Londo, perhaps he does not actually know where The Fair Lady/Fina is- she is behind an illusory wall, after all, and we don't even know if he has ever actually met her. If The Fair Lady is Fina, Fina probably is not her real name, as it does not begin with Que like all of the other daughters of The Witch of Izalith.

[@SilverMont]

What would his "business up above (In Anor Londo?)" be, if he were a chaos servant? Assuming he'd find her up there? Perhaps trapped in the painting or something?

[@beehivecity]

Silver Mont Well if Fina is a goddess he would assume she lives in Anor Londo, the city of the gods, like you said. Is The Fair Lady a goddess? The Witch of Izalith is described as a deity so that would make her children ones as well, right? Trapped in the painting is another possibility, that is where abominations like half-spider half-human things seem to be sent, but I don't know if Lautrec knows about that place.

[@drako1251]

Lautrec offers humanity to Fina, and firekeeper souls have infinite humanity. SEE A CONNECTION HEREEEE

[@TheSilversepiroth]

I have a theory about Lautrec. It's only a theory, and I originally thought of it as a joke. However, the more I thought of it, the more I thought that it's a distinct possibility. My theory is that Gwyndolin is Fina. Here's the evidence as I see it. It is uniquely possible that Carim, being such a far away place, has a language all it's own, including different titles for the Gods. Gwyndolin is not only portrayed as a woman, but is also always masked. One of the reasons that a woman (particularly royalty) were masked was to keep commoners from stealing their beauty (yes, that was a thing.) So, since "her" face was always hidden & "she's" a Goddess, it was most likely just assumed by the populous that "she" was beautiful. Finally, Gwyndolin has a tendency to bring in others whom pity would often escape. (see: bronze knightess) Like I said, it's just a theory, but an interesting one to think of.

[@SilverMont]

Could be! I've seen quite a few people speculate that Fina is Gwynevere. But I think that's the first time I've seen it theorised that Fina is Gwyndolin. Although, that might explain why Lautrec seems to have freaked out and died - finding out your Goddess of Fateful Beauty is a man would probably do that.

[@TheSilversepiroth]

Also notice that his corpse is opposite the Princess' Chamber, as if he's searching for another chamber. Perhaps he never found his "Goddess," and went mad because he couldn't find "her."

[@Kravockian]

I believe Fina is the mother of Gwynns children.

[@gabrielwright2760]

I always assumed that the Fire Keeper was cursed by the Goddess Fina and Lautrec found this out somehow and killed her in response. Seeing as he could have no other motive due to the fact that she can't talk.

[@SilverMont]

I wonder if he took her out because he thought it would put us at a disadvantage... or perhaps he knew it might goad us into following him? Who can say! It's odd, as his only real line concerning her is: "She has served me well, but enough with her."

[@DeltaTwoNiner]

Killing Crestfallen Knight and Lautrec with Force Fun times

[@pickleIOfwar]

I'm pretty sure someone may have said this before and its highly unlikely but what if Lautrec is like the "chosen undead". It sort of makes sense, the chosen undead was found locked away and was rescued by someone passing by. Similar to how you rescue him. Also what if lautrec has similar goals, was he trying to get the Lords Vessel maybe? That would explain why he is Anor Londo.

[@SilverMont]

Yeah, there's one theory that I've seen floating around that many of the NPCs represent different aspects of the player, and they are all the chosen undead in their own world, etc. Lautrec representing the opportunist, Siegmeyer the one who relies too heavily on others, etc.

[@pickleIOfwar]

Do you think that Lautrec had similar motives to the players chosen undead, ro reignite the first flame and continue the age of fire? It would explain why he is in anor londo with 2 others, maybe prepping for Ornstein and Smough boss fight? (notice how the sentinels and knight isn't in the room, he must have killed them and summoned those 2). Its also possible he plans on using a firekeeper soul on the first flam to prevent his sacrifice. And since the one in firelink is the most defenseless its an easy steal. Like you said Lautrec is the opputunist. Similar story with Solaire it cant be a coincidence you summon him on some vital boss fights including Gwyn.

[@ChAkEnEx]

I always tought Lautrec summoned the white phantoms to kill Ornstein and Smough and enter with Gwynevere(¿why?), but before entering the fog you invade him and kill him, taking his ring (i dont know why), his humanity and the firekeepersoul, so without humanity he started to become hollow, and couldnt summon white phantoms.When he entered to fight Ornstein and Smough, he was to weak and he failed becoming hollow in a narrow of the room, probably sent flying by the Dragonslayer Spear.

[@Crow12419]

I wonder I haven’t seen him on the jail and I haven’t freed him and the fire keeper is dead. But for me is so weard cuz i have never open the cell Is it that if the part comes and you haven’t freed him he still can get out ? Or something like that.

[@ThePointlessBox_]

he is my favorite Dark Souls character

[@Khotgor]

One of the Two Summons in Anor Londo is one of the three healer sages of New Londo.

[@SilverMont]

Or at least, wearing his robes!

[@Khotgor]

If they wanted it to be just a random mage, they could have done it like they did with the random warrior, and that is to make the summon wear the starting sorcerer clothes. Considering that there were three sealers, and two of them are both found in New Londo (Alive) and Blighttown (Dead), and the third one is not indicated anywhere other than this one NPC that uses A) The Same Clothes except the mask, which considering the mask was worn as a symbol of their duty as Sealers until two of them forsook their duty, it would make sense for them to forsake the mask since they forsake their duty yo protect the Seal, and B) They use the same catalyst as the Red Sealers, unlike the regular Sorcerer Catalyst, or any other Catalyst in general, instead the signature weapon for the Red Sealers, the Tin Banishment Catalyst. It also uses the same magic spells as the Sealers, being both Sealers use the Darker Blue Soul Arrows rather than the light ones nor spells like Soul Spear. More than likely is the third sealer.

[@curtisponder1566]

I got into Dark Souls a lot later than everyone else and am just now looking up the lore, but I've found a huge difference between my original take on the story and everyone else's. So, I thought I'd throw it out there. I never thought that Gywn or those directly linked to him (the Dark Sun or the Princess of Sunlight) were Gods. They were never called Gods in the game. They were Lords. Men (and women) that found great power. The only entities called Gods were Velka and Fina. The fact that you never meet or encounter Velka or Fina lends further credit to them being Gods, since Gods tend to exist in a different way than others. Gywn, on the other hand, IS encountered and KILLED. Not to mention all the other "immortal" people or things the chosen Undead slays.

[@SilverMont]

Curtis Ponder There is some degree of overlap between the two - Flann is described as a god and he is the consort to Gwynevere, daughter of Gwyn. And Gwyn is the "nephew" of Allfather Lloyd, whose name is a bit of a reference to Odin. Either way, the "gods" aren't really gods in the same sense that we would usually use the word - they are more like Greek gods; very powerful humanoids. Or to put it another way, they are Lords. A race of "god-like" beings who tower over the pygmies (humans)

[@Squantoon]

Perhaps Lautrec was born a peasant and Fina is using him as her pawn in a bigger scheme. Perhaps he's not really even a knight of Carim, maybe Fina knighted him to get him to do her Bidding. Maybe she wants all the bonfires extinguished and all humanity gathered up.

[@TroopperFoFo]

He is like a member of the scarlet crusade from wow. Doing holy deeds in their eyes. In other they are Fanatics. in other words Lautrec reminds me of NOBODY SUSPECS THE SPANISH INQUISTITION!!!!!

[@afoninja121]

"how he gets to her through the bars of her prison, we don't know" idk... maybe something like a long sharp piece of steel.

[@sawyerpatton2932]

It is stated in lore, that the Firekeeper of Firelink Shrine had her tongue cut out of her mouth for speaking ill of a god, maybe this god was Fina, and Lautrec sought the Firekeeper to punish her further, then proceeded to Anor Londo to give the Firekeeper soul as a tribute to his goddess after all, Anor Londo is the "city of the gods" where better to find a deity?

[@SilverMont]

Sawyer Patton Hard to say, as we don't know if it was a specific god (and it's not like she can tell us!)