SIMGOT EW300 DSP and HBB Editions - Splitting Hairs

[@stevie_tv]

Thanks for covering this in more depth beyond your initial review! No matter where I was browsing, the same concern most people had between the variations were the same and this clears it up. HBB did touch upon it too but in case for those that don't watch his channel or need more than one source of information - it's great to have someone who understand these products like you talk about it. Cheers :)

[@PaulWasabii]

Thanks, not quite the same but very close

[@EngrRomero]

Thanks for the 5khz observation. I'm too, very sensitive to that area.

[@PaulWasabii]

Also found in the new Ziigaat Estrella

[@SpacedOutDoonie]

I just copped the S08. Gonna wait till black friday to get the HBB EW300. Looking at the graphs the EW300 is super similar to the Cadenza (on your squig, but different on others like HBBs). The Cadenza is fire, and like HBB said the beryllium drivers are really some of the best sounding. You should do the reviews like this 11:43 where you put a paper over the written review and go down along the lines while talking about those points. 12:32 Why do I feel like they got the sets mixed up. If you look at HBBs new target 2022 he lowered the 5k region which is what Simgot did on the standard EW300 but on the HBB set they elevated it lol.

[@PaulWasabii]

In retrospect, I should do what I did for Supermix 4 and EM10, find tips that get closer to SIMGOT's measurements. I am just not sure with 3 sets it will get close enough. For the most part, EW300 graphs are going to be unreliable compared to the tuning intention which is what you see on their graph. I have yet to watch HBB's EW300 video, but I should.

[@TheVeganVicar]

I am wearing the S08 now. 😮

[@la.keeeeee]

How does the ew300 compares to S08?

[@fiddlix]

Great review Paul. I’ve been waiting for your take on these sets. I have plenty of good to great dac/amps, so the standard version for me. I’d rather use my FiiO Q15 and my trusty ifI Gryphon that you helped me get some barely out of warranty repair work done on. Thank you so much for the suppot help and all you do for the audio community. I have a n Aune AR5000 headphones set coming later today….Resolve really liked them and he can definitely be a picky old bastard like me. He liked them so well he said he was buying a set. 😊

[@PaulWasabii]

AR5000 have been on my radar since the release and when they went hard to get. I'll be watching for your thoughts on them

[@Hijynx87]

How do you like the ar5000? A bit boring ? I recommend their 4.4 copper cable, I’m not really a cable believer but it did seem like it helped the dynamics a bit. At least for a portable source.

[@fiddlix]

@@Hijynx87 Really digging them. I have that same cable coming today for them. They are not boring to me at all. I use a FiiO Q15 and an ifI Gryphon as my sources. I am a lover of mids, so the AR5000 is a great complement to my HD490 Pro set.

[@AronAddams7]

Thanks for going in depth. Ageee with everything you said about the ea500LM. I enjoy it, but i can't keep listening to it after 30 minutes.

[@PaulWasabii]

Yes. cool set, great driver, but LM is intense above low volume

[@AronAddams7]

@@PaulWasabii Yeah I agree

[@mayonotes9849]

​@@PaulWasabiiEven with low volume, it's still way too intense in the treble for me. Bass is the highlight but the really bright treble just kills the mood for me.

[@gadgetgenerationspulkit]

Why does the ew300 looks so interesting ?? Good review bro

[@PaulWasabii]

I do think the driver mix is interesting and at the right price. We had a lot of $300-$400 lately so nice to have some affordable sets performing well

[@someoneusa]

Keeping it real as always 💯 I add tiny bits of LdF to almost all my sets now. It improves the sound in a way that's hard to pin point, it's like it polishes the sound without changing it. I'd say it's placebo except for I will put foam in one and blind test and I always pick the foam. 🤔

[@PaulWasabii]

Its not a placebo, just not always enough to show on the graph. Especially the LdF.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

FIRST! 🎉 Paul, thank you for another wonderful review! 👌 Reverend Dr. Thomas, ✝️ The Vegan Vicar 🌱

[@miurasvlamborghini]

You sound sick brotha, hope you get well soon.

[@PaulWasabii]

Nah, sometimes its just time of day

[@AndrewYouTubehandle]

Excellent review. I've got the ea500lm. I don't find them bright (across all genres). There seems to have been a change in tuning at some point. I use the brass nozzles (silver is brighter) and skin fits that give more depth. But we all have different hearing and preferences. I've ordered the ew300 dsp as I wanted a usb c set with mic so I'll see how it compares!

[@PaulWasabii]

Sweet. Bright can also be affected by your listening volume. Some sets are intentionally brighter assuming listening volume is lower.

[@JohnClarkW]

The differences look too small to matter. I too am surprised the HBB doesn't have more bass. The EW200 is half the price, and only a bit brighter than the EW300. I tend to think the Que looks more interesting to me. I tape modded both the EA500 and the EA500LM.

[@PaulWasabii]

Yeah, the differences are there, but you need to hunt for them. But I do wish the HBB was the one that was clearly different in that way

[@ajaymichaels553]

​Hey paul, I'm midbass loving person will ew300xhbb satisfy greatly in that area..? or do u hav any other iem in suggestions under 100usd which satisfy mid bass frequency with same technical details like ew300 or Ea500lm.

[@PaulWasabii]

EW300 is right there for that. The problem with EA500LM is as I said, it is bright. That detracts from the bass presence. I also mentioned the SIVGA Que, that is even heavier. If you never heard the original BLON BL03 and can get it cheap, try that one

[@jhoncc7075]

Hi, hope everything is going well. I didnt quite got the thing about sources make sets sound similar. Maybe you where talking about cheaper dongles/sources. Im interested if the reason you said that was becasue of the power delivered by the source.

[@PaulWasabii]

The best example are the usb-c cables which are basically cheap dongles. Listen to your $10 1DD and your $200 1DD on that, it will sound more similar than you expect. Yes, mainly talking about cheaper sources but you get a bit of the same on warm sources or sources that don't have great extension.

[@jhoncc7075]

@@PaulWasabiiI get it, good point. Thanks for your time

[@Frank_P83]

I have the EM6L and SM4, for gaming purposes, wonder if the EW300 sounds better and which to choose... I get that the DSP model sounds great but I won't ever use a USB cable as I use a dac/amp... any recommendations ? A USB-C to 3.5mm adapter would do the job ? Would the DSP cable work that way ?

[@Hijynx87]

It’s very similar to sm4 (on my btr7 4.4 which is 2.8ohms) a bit richer in the mids and a kiss more midbass. Both sound fantastic, but ew300 is more musical

[@PaulWasabii]

IMO, you have it covered with those two. EW300 slots in almost between them, the bass is closer to EM6l than SM4. If you are looking for 3 similar flavor, it works. You can buy the DSP version and not use the cable, it will be fine on a normal IEM 2pin cable. Or just buy the regular EW300.

[@b4g4b3l]

Question: if you buy the DSP version but change the cable with something without dsp, will the iem still work ? I assume yes, if so, will they sound like the hbb version or something totaly diferent ? (Keep in mind that HBB said in his video that the dsp version are basicaly his colab version but better)

[@PaulWasabii]

He is basically right. The DSP version is like the bonus version, you can use it with the DSP cable or with a regular cable. The sound has a slight difference that you probably won't notice unless you are plugging the analog cable into a dongle that has a more colored sound.

[@faisalfirdausiinn4708]

Happen to know the reason they included so many Rubber O-Ring for the nozzles..? And is there any difference aside from them being color coded?

[@bigbuckoramma]

When they get compressed, they can sometimes tear on the threads. They are essential for sealing the nozzle. So on the off chance one breaks, tears, falls off, gets lost, or otherwise "fails", you have replacements. And I'm all for it.

[@dennisalarcon9175]

​@bigbuckoramma not entirely. On my lm, I had trouble getting a seal even with the replacements. You really got to be careful when replacing the nozzles in the first place.

[@PaulWasabii]

I don't know why they included so many. I know in the past, SIMGOT told me they are very picky on perfect seals so when people were using EA500 nozzles on other sets, that was not something they recommended as it wasn't perfect.

[@faisalfirdausiinn4708]

i appreciate you guys response. KZbin notification seem useless recently hence the late reply from me.

[@karma7128]

Hey paul, is the ew300 hbb sounds like regular planar iems (planar timbre)? Or is it sound like natural timbre? Im allergic to that mettalic sound from planars. i prefer only natural sounding iems

[@Hijynx87]

It sounds natural to me, but I’m not super sensitive to it. Cymbals don’t sound grainy.

[@karma7128]

​@@Hijynx87hey thanks bro, which version u having normal or dsp or hbb?

[@PaulWasabii]

I was expecting HBB version to sound more relaxed as he normally does in tuning but not the HBB version. I'd stick with DSP or regular. I don't notice it like the previous comment, but I think if you are sensitive to planar or piezo, not sure it is a good match for you. I say that as I have friends who said somewhere in the 10k-ish area sounds over emphasized. Not sure I agree, but I think if you are sensitive, might be a wait for more impressions or buy with an easy return option.

[@Divionist]

If I found the hidizs mp145 a bit too harsh in the treble, and a bit shouty, which ew300 version would suit me? I used the rose gold filter and foam tips, but could still notice it, though it was more manageable because of the foam tips. I also listen and like bassy music.

[@PaulWasabii]

I'd still take the regular EW300 and try one or both foams in the nozzle just to see if it works or not

[@samK1XT]

Ew300 dsp vs supermix 4 vs Letshuoer S12 ? Love to hear your recommendations btw them

[@PaulWasabii]

I am a planar boy, S12 Pro. Supermix 4 is technically better than EW300, but I will still take the tuning of EW300 as it is more generally appealing. Supermix 4 is very Harman which if you are familiar with it.

[@rajbasu4801]

Please Help me to describe the sound of the ziigaat nuo, Some people on reddit say that they didn't liked the ziigaat nuo and that it had a flat soundstage (whatever that means) it sounded as if it was mono. That's what they said but you said it's fun and energetic sounding so please describe, does it really has a flat soundstage with mono like sound to it.

[@PaulWasabii]

Eh, the hobby is subjective and when a set like Nuo adds a boost in the upper treble, it either sounds energetic as there is more energy to instruments and harmonics, but that can also tilt balance and flatten stage. The mono part, not sure.

[@Hijynx87]

Mono probably because someone had mono set on their phone for a podcast and never turned it off. I see this post a million times I’m starting to think Reddit is just full of ai posts.

[@EricJorgensen1]

thanks!

[@priyanksaini6177]

Are these better than Moondrop May Dsp ?

[@Hijynx87]

Yesh

[@kassdaa]

I’m split between the zero red and these, which would you recommend

[@PaulWasabii]

The main obvious difference is the bass level, EW300 has more. Zero:Red has an adapter that adds more bass. In that respect, Zero:red might be a better starting point but both are nice sets.

[@kassdaa]

@@PaulWasabii thx

[@Degsterino]

Are these good for gaming? I'm a competitive FPS player and I'm looking for a new iem to use for both gaming & music. I currently have a Truthear x Crin Zero OG and I love it, my only complain is the huge nozzle, so I have to take many breaks otherwise my ears burn

[@PaulWasabii]

Yes they are more comfortable than the Zeros. Generally people seem to prefer less bass for gaming so that would be my only concern. People gravitate to 7hz Zero or Moondrop Chu. You listen to music also so EW300 is better for that.

[@Degsterino]

@@PaulWasabii Thanks, I appreciate it! I also noticed on their website that the EW300 with the gold nozzle and purple ring is 'specifically designed for gamers, tailored for gaming scenarios,' so we'll see haha. Incredible video, by the way! I've been lurking here for a while, and your videos are always amazing. Keep it up!

[@maxbroden2053]

Just to get this correct, is the dsp version and the hbb version the same iem soundwise? So if I smack a 4.4 on to the iems that comes with the dsp version, it will sound the same as hbb version with 4.4?

[@Hijynx87]

Yeah it’ll sound the same.

[@maxbroden2053]

@@Hijynx87 Great thanks! Dsp version it is then.

[@marcswinnen9100]

Hello is the dsp usb c cable better as my moondrop may cable or is the cable soundwise the same or is the dsp separate system and not together in the usb plug a better way to go?😊

[@dylanthomas2109]

This DSP cable should be better than the may dsp because ew300 DSP has a built in dac

[@PaulWasabii]

I never really listened to the May cable. The SIMGOT cable is more like a traditional USB DAC dongle

[@marcswinnen9100]

@@PaulWasabii ok thx

[@TogelLusion-le6xm]

How is it comparing to cca rhapsody? Does it count as an upgrade?

[@PaulWasabii]

Unless you want a metal shell or something really annoys you on Rhapsody, too close to a sidegrade. They will not sound the same but its closer to buying a different flavor than a big upgrade. Rhapsody is very capable for its price.

[@TogelLusion-le6xm]

​@@PaulWasabiiThank you for the answer, sir ❤

[@TogelLusion-le6xm]

@@PaulWasabii pardon me, one more question, sir. From a timbre & technical point of view, which one is better?

[@paulosilva8200]

Strange to see hbb to be brighter than simgot.

[@PaulWasabii]

I have no idea what happened but perhaps it was intentional. I also haven't watched his video

[@miltonwilliams2399]

Have you tried that dsp cord with another pair of iem if so how does the sound change?

[@Musicophile-p5l]

That'll be interesting

[@miltonwilliams2399]

@@Musicophile-p5l will you do a video about it?

[@Musicophile-p5l]

@@miltonwilliams2399 Haha I'm not a reviewer. Just a listener like you.

[@miltonwilliams2399]

@@Musicophile-p5l ohh my bad 😞

[@PaulWasabii]

I have not, but I am assuming there is a small change as there appears to be a change with EW300 vs an analog cable. I am not sure that is intentional though, but it might be. Again, these are small changes, not like the Dusk dsp cable

[@miurasvlamborghini]

Welcum Bach!! 😂 (For some reason I imagined a brain-dead Californian valley girl saying it, made me chuckle.)

[@PaulWasabii]

Totally

[@Finn_923]

do you will review the tri draco

[@PaulWasabii]

Doubt it

[@gerpogi]

How is this vs Celest Phoenixcall or the artti t10?

[@PaulWasabii]

Eh, you are asking the wrong person on Phoenixcall, I didn't like it. And never heard T10. Planars tend to sound similarly bright so if that is your preference, go T10. Otherwise EW300 is a safer choice

[@fiddlix]

I have phoenixcall, would you like to buy it dirt cheap..?

[@gerpogi]

​@@fiddlix sure. How do I contact you

[@gerpogi]

@@fiddlix sure

[@kenjikodai]

I thought the EW300 HBB's FR was the EW300 and vice versa, rip me

[@PaulWasabii]

That is why I said the squigs are going to be more confusing and used the boxes.

[@vizmarkluna4830]

So just go with the DSP version so we can have different tunings just by changing cables.

[@PaulWasabii]

Sure, but if you aren't going to actually use the DSP cable, I'd go with the regular version.

[@vizmarkluna4830]

Thanks. Which do you prefer this or the kefine?

[@Barnsey87]

These are on Aliexpress for £50

[@PaulWasabii]

Between now and 11-11, there will be a lot of sales

[@EstherCampbell-p1k]

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[@cryteslx8554]

worse than em6l

[@leonardodelgado7573]

Why? (Just curious)

[@cryteslx8554]

@@leonardodelgado7573 more jagged frequency responce - worsr sound, you can try it using parametric eq