Confused by the Control Menu? | MSFS 2024 | Config Your Devices Like a Pro!

[@Cellinsky-2302]

Best guide to controllers so far. Actually explaining things and not just rant around like others do. Thank you for that!! The new layout has a lot of potential once the obvious bugs are sorted. Inline with other sims like DCS or X-plane. I like it.

[@herwighermans5210]

Thanks for the clear explanation. The three layers of controls is a good approach , once UI is a bit refined and the bugs solved. I would like to be able to generate a pdf that allows a better overview of all controls combining the various peripherals. You are my first go-to for flight sim tutorials. Thanks for your efforts!

[@mikemcgonegal1616]

Make me feel good that it's not just me! Thank you!

[@micgrech]

Thanks for the video. A few improvme ts can be made 1. Add Filter based on the 3 profile types. 2. The white circle with the number covers your joystick button number so you can not see what button has been mapped. This one is a no brainer and should have been picked up prior to release 3. 2020 had a picture of your peripheral with the button nunbers displayed. Would be really handy as i haven't memorised all the button numbers for each piece of hardware as yet 😂

[@seriouslyvideoproductions4664]

Mark, I can't thank you enough for your excellent tutorials, and now, especially since the premature release of MSFS 2024. I am new (1 year +) to MSFS, and as a senior citizen of 76 years old, with some learning disabilities, your easy to follow and understand videos are the best of all I've found on KZbin, in regard to setting up and enjoying Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 and 2024. Please do keep up the great work sir.

[@EnsiFerrum]

You are the first one I've seen who explains the categories and recognizes the big advantage of this approach 👍

[@alpinebravo7090]

As always Mark, your videos are the go-to for working out how to use a sim - you got me started on 2020 and now 2024. I appreciate just how much effort it takes to do these rather unglamourous but absolutely vital videos. So a huge thank you for this and your continuing support to the community.

[@jamessimmons8352]

Being an old timer IT guy, we had a saying to users... RTFM. However now days it's too expensive to develop FMs and you're on your own to figure out (aka trial by error). In this case it's quite powerful, if not intuitive, but trying to figure it out is a challenge when parts of it are clearly broken. I agree it's a rushed to market implementation.

[@johngorbley8818]

Thanks for the video. I'm patiently waiting for the velocity settings video

[@SimHangerFS]

Coming soon

[@LWJCarroll]

Fyi I bought Velocity rudder pedals to go with my Velocity One Flight yoke but they (rudder pedals) The yoke is running appear to have failed after approx 10 mins flying on my XBox-X. Tried the TB apps firmware update which responded Firmware update failed. The supplier has offered to get them back to investigate. The yoke is still running ok. So will be returning the pedals to get them checked etc. Laurie. NZ.

[@francoisdyckmans1210]

Again a big thank you from Normandie, Mark. 😀 Your videos are always xtal clear, quite informative and helpful. You made clear what was so messy at first glance. Kind regards. Francois

[@OldManGoatHair.6985]

Thanks for the video Mark. Yup, the menu is a bit confusing at first. But I kept playing around with it and found it will be very useful once the bugs are sorted out.

[@mesillahills]

Thanks for your efforts. I have not downloaded the new sim yet simply because I know what new start-ups are like. It is best to let things sort out and allow videos like yours develop. Frankly, this thing looks so complex I am not sure about going to it at all. Were it not for VR, I probably would. I do see why it was done the way it was, but MS fails to provide instructions on how to operate it. They want to show you how to fly an airplane but now how to fly through their own program.

[@acidburstman]

Yay I am so glad you’re doing this. Very helpful.

[@kenbarthSimAV8tor]

Thanks for this Mark! Quite the learning needed for 2024

[@tasercs]

Thanks Mark, all help to understand the new sim is appreciated and makes me feel a little less 'alone'. OK, some comments suggest the way they have implemented this is good and they can't see what all the fuss is about.... But Microsoft have been 'doing' software for 40 years. They pretty much invented software. But a user interface where (as someone else mentioned) the white circle 'controls duplicated' number actually appears over the joystick button number, or text that deson't quite fit in the box allocated to it etc..etc... are all schoolboy errors. We are dedicated to our hobby though, and we expected a bit of a rough start. We will weather the storm but considering the storm lasted throughout 2020's reign and many of the issues were just carried over to 2024, you can't help feeling like we have paid a lot of money to start from the beginning of an uphill journey - again. Luckily, we have you to share the journey and to help guide us through it. 👍

[@briancrawley8440]

Thank you Mark another brilliant video.

[@LimitlessHorizonVRSimrigs]

Awesome video as always Mark 😊

[@sascenturion]

Excellent mark ..just what i needed thanks... The control menu is a real pain 😢 ,hopefully once weve "beta tested" (🙄 ) ..the sim they will come out with fixes.

[@paulphibbs7162]

Thanks Mark. Always appreciate your efforts to clarify processes in the Sim.

[@ErikLegerstee]

Another great vid mate!

[@get_outdoors]

Thanks Marks, still messing with VR benchmarking so this is my next up, I thought in one of the Dev streams there was mention of auto select profile although I’ve seen no hint of it.

[@SimHangerFS]

Set as default and the profile will follow similar aircraft…single prop etc.

[@DarkAngel-yu1ye]

Great tutorial Decision point is to make comparison with Spadnext and decide which to use.

[@Petercrossed]

This game is advanced.. While flying, I don't even need to escape and quit to desktop....it does it for me....

[@Delboyii]

@@Petercrossed Whilst you may not be I am really happy to hear this as it means I am not alone 😁

[@jajamuc]

Thank you Mark! I hope they will bring the reactivity setting back. This made a big difference to me in 2020, especially for the yoke axis. Just reinstalled 2024 yesterday after a lot of frustration. Things are running much much better now. Still haven't been able to properly configure the condition levers for all my favorite turbine props in the Bravo yet. Would be great if you could address that in the future.

[@SimHangerFS]

Will do. WIP

[@brendan6672]

Thanks Mark for all your hard work, Im looking forward to your Bravo specific planes settings as I have trouble with the jets to configure.

[@jay-rus4437]

Because of many of the reasons you’ve stated, Ive been seriously considering learning Spad.next. If Im going to have to re-learn how to bind controls with a new system, I may be better off using spad

[@eracer1111]

I've been using SPAD for two years. In FS20 I kept most of my keyboard/mouse controls, but had all my other peripheral control profiles blank. I plan to do the same with FS24. On the surface SPAD is not too hard to use. Just know that it's quite deep, and can be quite daunting once you really get into it. Even after using it all this time, I still consider myself an 'advanced beginner.' Having individual profiles for each plane in SPAD is a godsend. It's nice to see that FS24 is adopting that model as well.

[@LowViz82]

Setting a profile in any of the categories you create as default assigns that profile to the plane you're working in. So, as an example, a HC Bravo profile called "GA single prop with mixture" in the Airplanes category can be set as default to planes where that makes sense (GA planes with a throttle and a mixture lever eg C172), and it will load when you get in a plane where assigned as default. If, on the other hand, i get in the A400M, that profile would not be assigned as default and as such would not be loaded. Assign to all would, of course, assign a profile to all planes.

[@cammy9r]

Yes , as clear as mud. Once you play about with it though it becomes easier but this guide has been helpful thank you. I wonder if the GUI was designed by an ex employee of Egosoft, Their gui's are legendary in WTF..why that way?

[@lynchie6844]

Thanks Mark, I have order the CLS-120 and am eagerly waiting for it to arrive. I hope by the time it arrives the Sim will be in a far better state.

[@SimHangerFS]

Enjoy it

[@brianracz2553]

Thanks!

[@SimHangerFS]

Thank you so much for supporting the channel. 🎉😊

[@JamesStevenson-c5p]

now were talking THANK YOU

[@yams900]

Well explained mate ! It is much clearer now :) I've just installed FS2024, didn't want to rush at day 1. The new SIM has potential and will be good, just patience :)

[@koneofsilence5896]

great work - thats for this guide

[@tomc1380]

Very far from intuitive, but thanks for trying to explain this. I'm still having a lot of problems assigning controls with Aircraft vs Heli's. Some need inverted settings but some don't, lol!

[@guillaume_69]

Thank you Mark, I was waiting for this. What a terrible implementation. It's hard to believe it's the same developer that did MSFS2020 UI. And perhaps it's not. Perhaps MS outsourced this, away y from Asobo, somewhere cheaper. I'm hesitant to configure all my peripherals at this point, because I fear it might be for naught if they do some fixes/changes that break the current one.

[@DarthPlaya]

🤬You couldn't have put this out a couple of days earlier? JK😊 It only took a little less than 2 hours to download FS2024 ... BUT it took over 4 hours trying to get my controls set up like I had them in 2020 (and it STILL needs tweaking) This video surely would have saved me some time. Although it did in fact give me a far better understanding and insight into some of the intricacies and those *damn bugs.* I really appreciate the time and effort I know you put into this video. 👍🏽Given!

[@Lozenayla]

thank you, this helped a lot

[@julianneale6128]

Thanks Mark. This channel is very often a bit of a life saver. Unlike the MSFS products, you make a lot of sense.

[@SimHangerFS]

Great to hear!

[@emirgokcen1906]

Thanks a lot for the explanations and the video. There is no calibration check in the settings at all and when you roll out on a runway plane starts to go one direction even tough rudder set up should be OK with the hardware I am using in MSFS 2020 😄 Such a joke that Microsoft and Asobo put together another Map Simulator instead of a decent Flight Simulator. Still looking for FSX days.

[@MartinGraeff]

Great intuïtive video again. Thank you very much. How do you get your avatar face on the 'career-menu' tab? I couldnt find it.

[@stevengunard8135]

Really helpful video, Mark (as always!). I was just wondering if you've managed to get your LoupeDeck Live working in 2024 yet?

[@LWJCarroll]

Thanks and surprised they sold me a product with some parts that just don’t work! Laurie NZ. 😊

[@wings6499]

Thanks Mark. Another interesting video. Are you able to advise on hierarchy of the three sets of profiles? Does a setting in Specific override one in Aircraft and again in General or must one be careful not to have conflicts across levels?

[@SimHangerFS]

The categories don’t have a hierarchy as they are completely separate bindings…aircraft control and non.

[@ianturner2229]

Recently I have been "binge" watching many of your videos as I really appreciatge the detail you provide on things like this one, Controls in 20204. I am really hoping that you might be able to answer my question on my new 20204 installation of the "Aviator Edition" under Steam on my I9 14900 machine with 64Gb ram and of course, an RTX 4090. It is my mouse that is causing me all my the problems.& making flying anything in 2024 impossible for me. In 2020 I have set th emouse up so the Right click is not used except for Secondary, so I can right click controls in the cockpit and make them respond (radio settings etc) and it all works great, I have the middle button set to provide Freelook (HOLD). In 2024 my mouse sort of works and lets me view around the cockpit, but as soon as I even just stop moving the mouse (even though I still have the middle button pressed down) it returns to straight ahead out of the cockpit all by itself in a sort of controlled pan over perhaps a full second or less. I have tried to edit my mouse settings in 2024, but ALL the fields briefly flash up "Scanning" and then return to normal, giving me no chance to even click any button on the mouse, so that is a complete washout. I really hope you just may be able to give me a pointer as to how to sort this out. I am real,l.y desperate to sort it out, as I have used 2020 for the last xx (too many to count) years, and FSX before that, and I also happen to be a licensed PPL, although now sadly lapsed so would love to have the added realism the 2024 apparently offers. It even does it in Photograpy mode etc, so it is pretty universal across 2024 as far as I can see. and I have an empty community folder so nothing is intefering. Sorry for the long message, but PLEASE, if you can, put me OUT OF MY MISERY !! Many thanks for all your work on your channel, it is a really great resource for flight simmers everywhere. Ian Turner

[@PuffZ102]

Thank you Mark for the explanation. A big fan of your videos! I know you fly a lot with VR and I was unable to try and replicate the VR experience I have in msfs2020. Specifically, using the controllers thumb X axis for cockpit knobs interaction to increase/decrease values like heading, altitude etc. The new way of selecting and moving my hand away from the button is neither convenient nor accurate. We're you able to crack that? If so, do you mind having a short video for VR specifically? (I'm using Oculus and I know you use the Pimax but I assume it might be the same...) Thank you!

[@billjones6128]

Mark, a hint to pass along regarding the C208B throttle mapping. I use a Bravo Throttle Quadrant and configure "complex singles" throttles by mapping "Throttle 1 Axis" as usual and "Throttle 1 Decrease" for reverse thrust. It worked for everything but the Caravan. The lever did drop into the first detention but no beta response. If one manipulates the lever with the mouse, you'll notice there is now a second detention position that activates reverse thrust. This position was not on the FS2020 version on the Caravan. Simply by trial and error I found that also mapping "Throttle Previous Detent" now works in activating reverse thrust on the Caravan. Don't know why but it works. Also, one has to taxi the new Caravan with the "Fuel Condition" lever (i.e. Mixture) in the "low" position while on the ground. In the high position, the plane taxis too fast and overpowers the breaks.

[@SimHangerFS]

Thanks, yes I noticed the reverse anomaly myself yesterday. 👍

[@prosperow]

excellent

[@uriahmayo106]

Thank you for the video! Will it take time for peripheral to come out? I currently have the logitech radio panel, the realsimgear GNS530, and bravo throttle quadrant.

[@RedRuffinsore]

Very helpful Is your CLS-60 actually doing FFB? I have a CLS-120 and the yoke works, but not FFB. My other big irritation is that my Tobii just barely works.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@RedRuffinsore download the latest FFB Tools and your done (includes firmware update). Tobii update still in the works

[@saleasylum]

Going back to 2020 is like going home. It's so much better, and it seems like the graphics are better now too. Maybe integrate the new features into 2020? I hate 2024.

[@arescyp]

Thank you for your video👏 Just wondering how fsuipc will work on both 2020 and 2024 same on both hd ?

[@howardbloom7926]

Hi Mark, I really like and appreciate all of your videos. One question, my Saitek Trim Wheel is listed on the left side of the screen but I cannot make any changes or programming. Any ideas? Thanks, Howard

[@fastfiddler1625]

I was just trying to assign hide yokes with keyboard assignments. It inexplicably kept setting my mixture to cutoff with any keyboard press. H, Q, W, T, it didn't matter, even when I deleted all keyboard engine controls. No conflicts listed. Cutoff. Then it suddenly started behaving. Then shortly after that, the whole thing crashed to desktop. That's after I gave up trying to fly the six pack C172 because the electrical system is broken. But at least now I know how the control menu is SUPPOSED to work. 😬

[@StickyMorty]

When you do step by step guide can you do one for the TCA Captain A320 Edition please

[@RiverboatDave]

Can anyone tell me what mouse control setting I should use to be able to move the view around the cockpit? Somehow I've managed to foul things up and the view won't move regardless of which mouse buttons I press. Thanks!

[@SparkySven]

Hi Marks as always you are a pro when it comes to assigning, binding controls. But when you showed the clear profile bug I think it will work but you always have to go back out the menu's till you see exit and save before any settings are saved, as long you did not save then it did not perform it what you wanted. It's clumsy and time consuming to always exiting the contols menu's and go back in but then is it saved and you can continue.

[@SimHangerFS]

Thanks, I’ll try that💯

[@jonasfogelberg9300]

Can you now assign the various buttons and rotaries on the GPS units? Previously you had to use SPAD.next, Axis and OH’s and such.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@jonasfogelberg9300 yes, to a limited degree.

[@Dimebonics04]

For Xbox users. If you’re using multiple wireless devices with dongles for ( Keyboard,headphones,mouse,etc) they will get swapped unknowingly and cause a nightmare. Do yourself a favor and hardwire everything. You’ll also experience this when using multiple xbox controllers.

[@rosscorr]

Mark thanks for the video. I will need to watch this a couple of times for it to sink in! Mark do you know what the Control listener function on the Hardware settings icon means? Unless it is just me it currently does not appear to do anything. Really slack of Asobo/Microsoft to launch without a complete manual for this software. As far as I can see there are some rudimentary guides and explanations at Microsoft Flight Simulator FAQ but it is very general. I really wish they would take a leaf out of xPlane's control setup procedure that any fool can use.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@rosscorr I am not sure, but I think it is designed for showing (highlighting) on screen the selected action when a button is pressed etc. I could also be used to show button/axis information on the peripheral graphic perhaps.

[@meljnik86]

Hello. I have custom Fenix A320 in MSFS 2024 and I cant to start moving the airplane on the ground. Looks like the chocks still installed! But I dont know how to remove them. Can you suggest anything?

[@GHQSTXX]

Not sure if you'll know what's causing this but my cockpit camera moves up to the left continuously. I also can't activate cockpit freelook with my right mouse button. I have checked all settings and can't find a fix. Any advice?

[@otronomas]

Can you make a video how optimize the VR experience?

[@beauthompson5338]

hi Mark Great video I am having one problem when I was trying to set the control up on the Xbox it keeps getting stuck in the search box and I cannot figure out a way to get out of the search box to be able to move down to the category that are directly underneath the search box any ideas?

[@simflightpro]

Behold... The savior has arrived!

[@greenminer255]

good video thanks ! My entire control setup is a mess, does anyone know if there is a RESET TO DEFAULT button to start over? I cannot find one. I think I have to reinstall again just to reset to default

[@SimHangerFS]

@@greenminer255 you can not overwrite the default profiles. Just delete all others.

[@paulfoster575]

Mark have you tried the Logitech flight panels the switch the radio panels in 2024 if so did u get them to work thx 🙏🙏🤞

[@SimHangerFS]

Not supported yet. Needs new drivers, Recommend use SpadNext.

[@kimghanson]

How do I assign a particular configuration to a particular aircraft? I'm guessing you save to the current plane each config you want for that plane. You could make others configurations but as long as they are not displayed when you save, they won't be copied to the aircraft. But these answers are just guesses. If you use "assign to all aircraft" but later find you want to change that for a specific aircraft (ie: helicopter) will the "assign to all aircraft" command allow it?

[@j_london9791]

I had the same question! Would have been nice if SOMEONE replied. WTF.

[@SimHangerFS]

Set as default profile will follow similar aircraft…single prop etc.

[@kimghanson]

@@SimHangerFS Really? That kind of behind-the-scenes categorization is unexpected.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@kimghanson yes, very useful, if only it worked as intended.

[@mistyx1914]

Hi Mark great video... I have one question... do you think is a good upgrade buy Honeycomb Charlie ? I have T rudder of Thrustmaster... thanks

[@guillaume_69]

Mark did a review video on the Charlie, you should look for it. But in summary, for this amount of money there are better options.

[@trevorpalmer5669]

Hi Mark . In the columns with indicating which buttons are assigned to each action, where multiple button presses are assigned the column isn't wide enough or doesn't scroll to see the entire entry. Is this a bug or am I not doing something?

[@SimHangerFS]

@@trevorpalmer5669 it is a bug.

[@ceegnz]

"These types of videos by their very nature are somewhat boring to watch". Mmmm. I would say when people try to do something that has no instructions or documentation but should be fairly intuitive, and are then faced with .... well, this! these types of videos become must-watch, more than one, and more than once. I've watched a few now, a bunch of them from different creators suddenly appeared all at once, and while the basics are pretty same-same once you go beyond that they are all worth watching because no two are the same and no two explain things the same way.

[@aspide4799]

Hi, I didn't understand if it's possible to create a personal profile for each aircraft and therefore directly linked to this (like on xplane) or if we can only create profiles for aircraft category and then have to select them each time

[@SimHangerFS]

@@aspide4799 set as default - eg single prop. It will follow.

[@aspide4799]

sorry, I didn't understand. Can you explain it better?

[@SimHangerFS]

@@aspide4799 default will follow similar aircraft , eg single props. It is not working fully at the moment.

[@justinallen2285]

Even though I save my profile after making changes it resets my controls every time I restart and wont save the profile for that category. It must be some kind of bug. Could be specific to the game pass version of the game.

[@Petercrossed]

For my needs I keep the mouse settings on Legacy.

[@SiMsIMs-1]

Do you know why the logitech switch panels are not working with 2024

[@ironknobair]

I have got most of the settings correct but the rudder pedal settings have me stumped. there are X Y Z axis if you use X and Y axis for the brakes then Z axis for trim there is a conflict in 2020 Z axis is used for both left and right trim with no conflict. When I re enter the plane there is no brakes and no trim. Can you tell me what I am doing wrong.

[@SimHangerFS]

The axis for rudder should be as shown in this video

[@JM1701ABCD]

But you can just plug your turtle beach peddals and yoke and just play right?

[@hardleftbank]

Mark, thanks for the video. Could you point me in the direction on using a xbox360 controller in msfs2024? I can not even get mine to show up in the controls menu. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

[@SimHangerFS]

Sorry I don’t have that controller

[@kenbarthSimAV8tor]

Any idea on how to make the Logitec Flight Panels work in 2024? They still work in FS 2020; so I added the same Plugin and instrument Panel driver that works in 2020 to my 2024 community folder and no sucess. Maybe a good tutorial on your You Tube channel? Stay well and Happy American Thanksgiving eh

[@Delboyii]

So frustrated, I uninstalled FS2020 to ensure I had a clean setup for FS2024 and whilst I have it running, including reasonable performance in VR my efforts to configure any of my peripherals have been a disaster. The new Control panel UI is fine after a few minutes experimenting with it, my issue appears to be having a very large number of bindings to one control, which I suspect is cuasing total PC lockups on occaisons. For example the default Mouse profile lists 19 bindings for the right mouse button. Only 2-3 of the bound buttons seem to work on my setup and multiple button presses usually results in the PC locking up requiring crashing and performing a hard restart. Before I spend any more time on configuring my ageing X56 throttle/stick can someone confirm whether my Logi mouse behaviour is the same for everyone, ie many of the functions assigned to the secondary (right) button do not work or do I have a broader issues with my peripherals?

[@SimHangerFS]

I have had no issues with the mouse

[@Delboyii]

@ Thanks, just wasted another day trying to figure out whether these are general problems or just my config. I would really like to know if everyone’s default mouse profile has the high number of assignments to the right mouse button?

[@jakefischer2557]

Can people share controller configurations? For example I’d like to set up my yoke the same as my son has his but don’t want to go through the work to program everything again.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@jakefischer2557 no, not as far as I am aware.

[@magicnorm2036]

Can’t do much. Each time I try to "Delete" a profile or "Apply to all aircraft" MSFS 2024 crashes.

[@Petercrossed]

I'm using my own Keyboard settings. Started scratch. However, for the life of me, I can't seem to save a camera cockpit view and assign it to a view and then use my Hat on my Hotas stick. Is it just me or am I missing something ? And my Tobii5 is not working like it should. Edit: ok after installing a 3rd party software, Tobii Tracker now works.

[@guillaume_69]

Same here. The hat switch assignment doesn't stick for me either

[@stevetam2030]

Sorry 2020 for me in the meanwhile, until i can import my bindings so it just works the same as 2020 i will stick with that. Paid for the aviator edition. I was looking forward to playing an updated edition with the same control settings and can't be bothered spending hours on something that just doesn't work with the current settings.

[@jdavis460]

Cannot get into cockpit of most aircraft. Cam view will only give the rear view on the runway driving me crazy. Pity no online chat groups to discus problems.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@jdavis460 have keyboard in controls set to 2024…then shift+C

[@jdavis460]

@ Many thanks for the reply. Shift-C did not work for me. I found solution in the early hours this morning which involved deleting a file deep inside msfs. I understand something to do with the cloud. Will post if you wish. Now have another problem of the mouse pointer seemingly going behind msfs 2024 screen after a few minutes use. 2024 in windowed mode.

[@Ken_McIntosh]

I am surprised people are finding the Control Menu difficult. I love it, extremely versatile.

[@Dimebonics04]

I agree. I think the bugs are causing people to believe they are not using it correctly. The profile not clearing is a big one.

[@prosperow]

yawn'

[@chrisgard4076]

it is a total clusterfuck, how to you get the profiles you make for each aicraft to load automatically after you have made the controls profiles . This is a infuriating mess

[@speedbird8326]

MSFS2024 is an utter disgrace. From the launch when they should have known about server loads to the hundreds of bugs in the program. They rushed it out and they knew it wasn't ready. It's going to take a full year before it's even close to fixed. If you're wondering who the beat testers are, it's you. I got a refund.

[@rickbii63]

this program must really be a piece of work if all these guys have to have videos to just get the thing to work/

[@Ron-u1k]

I just want my money back

[@itstheclarks]

i need helicopters

[@caskraker]

It is official. I am a PRO. To be honest, the Control settings are not hard to master at all. Did all this and more on day two. But hey, I am a PRO! 😂

[@carpless]

thx, i have 2024 now, but cannot get any of my panels t work, so will have to wait untill your series of tutorials start as with 2020. google etc has given some solutions but not working for me, and i'd rather use 2020 instead of wasting hours on this garbage