The Dark Age of Tamil History and the arrival of the Kalabhras

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Jay Vardhan Singh

Jay Vardhan Singh

5 ай бұрын

Kalabhras are described by some scholars as the dynasty that was responsible for putting an end to the Sangam Age. How true this description is will be analysed in this video.
Reference:-
1. The Dark Period: Myth or Reality? by Valerie Gillet
2. The Kalabhras in the Pandiya country and their impact on the life and letters there by M. Arunachalam
3. Viewing the Kalabhras as a hoax or historical reality by S.C Mishra and Minisha Agnihotri
4. A History of South India by K.A. Nilakanta Sastri
5. South India under the Cholas by Y. Subbarayalu
6. A Concise history of South India Edited by Noboru Karashima
7. Epigraphica India Vol 17
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@srikanthmarakanti276
@srikanthmarakanti276 3 ай бұрын
Real dark age for Tamil is right now politicians want to eradicate local religious beliefs over foreign religions
@jayachandrans.n.2827
@jayachandrans.n.2827 4 ай бұрын
Dark age of Tamilakam was the period between 1323 AD to 1371AD. The period of Madurai suthanate . During that time religious beliefs, culture, language,art forms ,temples were all in a condition of seige. This chapter is put under carpet by all. Bring it to day light.
@keshavsinghal3292
@keshavsinghal3292 3 ай бұрын
So chad
@ogKrisht
@ogKrisht 2 ай бұрын
finally someone with a backbone!
@sathiskumar911
@sathiskumar911 Ай бұрын
After this time Tamil nadu saw a dark age where old Tamil cultural practice were degraded, fully lost of Buddhism jainism ajivikaism in Tamil land. And saw full fledged vedic culture spread.
@adityasharan9568
@adityasharan9568 Ай бұрын
Abe jaa, Sanghi Historian
@ogKrisht
@ogKrisht Ай бұрын
@@sathiskumar911 yes they were trying to get moral victory over turk people who had no morals
@AshwiniKumarS
@AshwiniKumarS 5 ай бұрын
There is one very important contribution of kalabhra period or kalapirar in tamil that makes many to deny the period to be dark ages. The aiperumkapiyangal or the 5 great epics that include silapathikaram was written during this period
@max-cs9ko
@max-cs9ko 4 ай бұрын
Only reason why Kalbhara declared dark age of Tamil by historian because they were follower of Buddhist, tbh that period was golden age of Tamil history
@AshwiniKumarS
@AshwiniKumarS 4 ай бұрын
@@max-cs9ko there are no golden periods in history, both golden and dark periods are contextual
@alpha-vs1fx
@alpha-vs1fx 4 ай бұрын
​@@AshwiniKumarSsometimes there's a period when a civilization thrives and people live good lives , in Indian culture it's known as Ram rajya , in English it's golden age.
@shubhammeena5177
@shubhammeena5177 4 ай бұрын
@@max-cs9ko I don't think we know that for sure, can only speculate, cancelling of land grants to brahmins could be a one-off thing not the norm. maybe these brahmins preffered pandyas over kalabhras.
@shubhammeena5177
@shubhammeena5177 4 ай бұрын
@@max-cs9ko It's called dark age because we have very little extant inscriptions from this time.
@vasudhruw6843
@vasudhruw6843 5 ай бұрын
Sir can you make video on origin of Gujar prithihar and their conflict with arab 😊
@hydraempireff8972
@hydraempireff8972 5 ай бұрын
🍷🗿
@privatechannel875
@privatechannel875 5 ай бұрын
Your videos are valuable for both, those interested in history as a hobby and those looking for a more serious treatment of the subject. Thank you and keep up the good work 👍👍
@vg2812
@vg2812 5 ай бұрын
I was waiting for a proper video on kalabhras for a while now. Thanks for the video
@markaxworthy2508
@markaxworthy2508 5 ай бұрын
Another wonderfully clear exposition.
@shivamvishnu5539
@shivamvishnu5539 4 ай бұрын
Kalabhras were most likely Jains and likely patronized Jain monks instead of Brahmins. Jainism was dominant in this period of Tamil history. Not sure if it was a dark period for Tamil since a lot of literature including Silapathikaram was composed in this period. Unfortunately these guys did not leave behind a lot of records about themselves and hence have been forgotten by history.
@AbhinandanABS
@AbhinandanABS 5 ай бұрын
Its high time that we accept the truth that throughout Indian history & even today. Kshatriyas & Vaishyas are the richest & most powerful Varnas
@vanshbeniwal1662
@vanshbeniwal1662 5 ай бұрын
SUGGESTIONS - History of Karkota Empire And is the extent of empire mentioned in kalhana text real or exaggerated
@contemporarymatters8106
@contemporarymatters8106 4 ай бұрын
We need more such expositions on Indian history from the south which are not widely discussed.
@venkateshu8715
@venkateshu8715 5 ай бұрын
Superb ❤️
@sssun7
@sssun7 5 ай бұрын
Which tamil grammar book you mentioning here as a source of kalabaras? Is it nannool?
@ShivaprakashYaragal
@ShivaprakashYaragal 5 ай бұрын
This is awesome. Even I didn’t know they exist … these are very rare things… even as history of Karnataka we don’t read them
@sunitabajpai4690
@sunitabajpai4690 5 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on the findings in excavations of the rama janmabhumi temple , ayodhya?
@Nritya-Natya
@Nritya-Natya 2 ай бұрын
extremely interesting
@Archi.x002
@Archi.x002 5 ай бұрын
Please make some videos about cheras (first and second chera empires)
@sssun7
@sssun7 5 ай бұрын
There has been quite a substantial numismatic research of this so called dark ages by many well known scholars, like dr. Krishnamorthy, the editor of tamil newspaper dinamalar. Pls refer to those research and expand your aricle. Ty.
@shaktiprasadsethi5914
@shaktiprasadsethi5914 5 ай бұрын
Plz make a video on Temples how did they play important role in Early mediaeval India History.
@JayVardhanSingh
@JayVardhanSingh 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion, will try to make a video on it
@yaminikantasahoo556
@yaminikantasahoo556 5 ай бұрын
Is there any link between Kalabhras and Kalingan King Kharavela? The description of his war on tamil kingdoms in Hathigumpha inscription seems to have some resemblance with kalabhras invason.
@AshwiniKumarS
@AshwiniKumarS 5 ай бұрын
Hathigumpa inscription only mentions chera, chola pandiya and athiyaman kings to be away from kharavela's rule and friendly. Kalabhra in Tamil is kalapirar, in that word you might not see similarity to kharavela.
@shubhammeena5177
@shubhammeena5177 4 ай бұрын
@@AshwiniKumarS What does this word mean?
@AshwiniKumarS
@AshwiniKumarS 4 ай бұрын
@@shubhammeena5177 which word?
@AshwiniKumarS
@AshwiniKumarS 4 ай бұрын
@@shubhammeena5177 I hope you are asking kalapirar. The most accepted etymology is kal`appu eerar, kal`appu meaning mixed, eerar meaning race. Mixed race. Another alternative etymology is kal`am meaning field, irar meaning race, kind of from the fields, this theory sees kalabhra as beginning from peasant movement where smaller tribal lords who served chola, chera, pandya armies revolt.
@AshwiniKumarS
@AshwiniKumarS 4 ай бұрын
Interestingly even kharavela would have a meaning in tamil. Khara means dark usually used to describe dark clouds, Vela is a weapon of lord muruga also, the small royalties are referred as vellir
@shivashankar-xy8zm
@shivashankar-xy8zm 5 ай бұрын
Pandyas seems to be active during that time . Sinhala texts mentions some of thier activities.
@ogKrisht
@ogKrisht 2 ай бұрын
Came across somewhere that the title for one of those Kalabhra kings translated to an idol breaker.
@balakrishnanrajagopal9630
@balakrishnanrajagopal9630 3 ай бұрын
thank you, awesome . when did corruption or anti corruption literature or champions came in please
@akitodaisuke6532
@akitodaisuke6532 5 ай бұрын
He comes when we need him most
@times2508
@times2508 5 ай бұрын
Omg the uninvited seethe on this video is enough for me to judge the people.
@vasuvasudevan1827
@vasuvasudevan1827 5 ай бұрын
My late grandmother use to recall a schism between the Brahmanas of Madurai in the late nineteenth century - one group was called the 'kadaambi' kootam (group) and the other, the 'kalabra" (no extended a in the second syllable) kootam. I've always wondered if this had anything at all to do with the kalaabra of thirteen centuries past. I'll leave out which group she was from 🙂
@elton123432
@elton123432 Ай бұрын
More videos on Tamil history Please ! : )
@shivjogdand3968
@shivjogdand3968 5 ай бұрын
Make a video about mittani and from where they split up from Indo Aryans.
@vinod.19
@vinod.19 5 ай бұрын
Jay bhai ... please make a video on dating of Sandrocottos of Megasthenese.
@ayushkumarsingh3029
@ayushkumarsingh3029 5 ай бұрын
Check Ashoka rock edict 13 It mentions Greek kings of Middle East and balkans ruling in third century bce It helps in dating mauryans
@-rate6326
@-rate6326 5 ай бұрын
Are you trying to say "Chandragupta" by holding your tongue with your fingers
@parjanyashukla176
@parjanyashukla176 Ай бұрын
So the Kalabhras were basically Jain warriors?
@karthikeyantm800
@karthikeyantm800 5 ай бұрын
Kindly do an episode on failed Mauriyan invasion on ancient tamilagam . Read the above information in bits and pieces and found it very interesting.
@bhanupratap1063
@bhanupratap1063 5 ай бұрын
It was not even an serious attempt.
@-rate6326
@-rate6326 5 ай бұрын
We don't have sources. Only propoganda war of Kalinga is best known
@user-kv2hp2oi1g
@user-kv2hp2oi1g 5 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@indianatlarge
@indianatlarge 5 ай бұрын
During War the landowning communities gave Generals who swore the loyalty to different royal clans from time to time ... and when in peace the generals had their foot soldiers working in the farms as peasants ! Is this accurate or a gross generalization
@kalyanidinesh9679
@kalyanidinesh9679 5 ай бұрын
Kalabhras were from tungabadra regions
@Gentleman-026
@Gentleman-026 5 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉
@ayushkumarsingh3029
@ayushkumarsingh3029 5 ай бұрын
Please make a video on why there is no architectural remains from the period of c,1500 bce to 274 bce
@-rate6326
@-rate6326 5 ай бұрын
He already made one. Some were destroyed. Some got destroyed.
@girishk2712
@girishk2712 5 ай бұрын
@JayVardhanSingh It's Kannada You are doing pH. D You should know the pronunciation of KannadA, one of the oldest languages Hind bhash people should Correct it
@Agnostic7773
@Agnostic7773 5 ай бұрын
Canarese not kannada
@t.4999
@t.4999 5 ай бұрын
@@Agnostic7773what next? Canada? Suffering form colonial hangover? Go home Shashi Tharooru
@-rate6326
@-rate6326 5 ай бұрын
​@@Agnostic7773 have some self-esteem
@upbeatpenguin5488
@upbeatpenguin5488 5 ай бұрын
If you make video hindi of bengali.....many people will enjoy it.... because this high knowledgeable video must reach to the general people of India. Please think about it
@laxmivasudevan7576
@laxmivasudevan7576 4 ай бұрын
Pallava dynasty ? . Equally important . Mahendra Pallava and Narasimha Pallava were well known Pallava great kings . Mahabalipuram rock statues stand testimony to Pallava dynasty .
@JayVardhanSingh
@JayVardhanSingh 4 ай бұрын
We will soon cover the Pallava history as well.
@girishk2712
@girishk2712 5 ай бұрын
KaLabhras were from Karnataka they were mentioned as KarNatakAvar They were Jains and supported the Peasants revolutions Their work was destroyed by Cholas
@Agnostic7773
@Agnostic7773 5 ай бұрын
Also shaivas
@hanumanthagnostic4402
@hanumanthagnostic4402 16 күн бұрын
You know one thing, Kalabhras studied Marxism from Russia.... And god support from stalin
@girishk2712
@girishk2712 16 күн бұрын
People with poor history and loads of political exposure will find truth strange
@dhi1083
@dhi1083 5 ай бұрын
Bro, plz you need to work on your pronunciations...
@bhuvaneshkadaraiah3293
@bhuvaneshkadaraiah3293 5 ай бұрын
Its not kannad it is kannada please pronounce properly 🙏🏼
@mahanirvaantantra
@mahanirvaantantra 5 ай бұрын
In hindi it's Kannad not kannada. similarly telangana is telangaan and kerala is keral.
@raghuls1515
@raghuls1515 5 ай бұрын
​​@@mahanirvaantantrait shows Hindi is not fit and non Indian origin language mix of Persia urdu etc😂
@dhruv49039
@dhruv49039 2 ай бұрын
@@raghuls1515cope nobody wants to speak ooga booga kannada
@raghuls1515
@raghuls1515 2 ай бұрын
@@dhruv49039 sry my language is tamil
@Bronsonnarrator
@Bronsonnarrator 2 ай бұрын
​​@@dhruv49039 and what is hindi? Taxi wala's bhaiya language or language of people of sucked up to islamic invaders. You call it hindi really it is hindustani lol.
@AnilKumar-ih7hq
@AnilKumar-ih7hq 5 ай бұрын
Very irritating pronunciation of names
@stealthspider1528
@stealthspider1528 5 ай бұрын
😂V, dark, Tamil people 😁very happy
@thrinethranak5652
@thrinethranak5652 4 ай бұрын
Pandiyan Kings Started Tamil Sangam to Translate Sanskrit Scripts to Tamil Language and more from their own. Tamil Language was Built On Sanskrit Language Only. Even the Word "Sangam" belongs the Sanskrit Language.
@max-cs9ko
@max-cs9ko 4 ай бұрын
Only reason why Kalbhara declared dark age of Tamil by historian because they were follower of Buddhist, tbh that period was golden age of Tamil history
@cokedupnormies2651
@cokedupnormies2651 5 ай бұрын
Sangam age was the OG Sanghi
@-rate6326
@-rate6326 5 ай бұрын
1. What do you mean? 1. Normie, sanghi, Dank, Dark, pi*ce of sh*t. What are you?
@-rate6326
@-rate6326 5 ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@cokedupnormies2651
@cokedupnormies2651 5 ай бұрын
@@-rate6326 Sangam = Sanatan = eternal
@hydraempireff8972
@hydraempireff8972 5 ай бұрын
SIR CAN U MAKE A VIDEO ON "REALITY OF ALEXANDER LOST AT AFGHANISTAN".... TRY TO MAKE IN HINDI , EVEN IF IT WILL NOT IN HINDI, IT WILL BE FINE
@JayVardhanSingh
@JayVardhanSingh 5 ай бұрын
I have made videos on Alexander. Do watch it.
@hydraempireff8972
@hydraempireff8972 5 ай бұрын
​@@JayVardhanSinghsir i think, u didn't seen properly😅
@satyashodhak.ashish
@satyashodhak.ashish Ай бұрын
RS Sharma elaborated kakabhra revolution as need of Adivasis liberation
@cokedupnormies2651
@cokedupnormies2651 5 ай бұрын
Isn't the dark ages the current era? They've turned the south into Mughalistanam essentially.
@ancientminds199
@ancientminds199 5 ай бұрын
Agree
@bhanupratap1063
@bhanupratap1063 5 ай бұрын
Moghulistan is the name of Modern day Xinjiang.
@adityasharan9568
@adityasharan9568 Ай бұрын
Idiot, you are. Stop reading Sanghi Historians.
@TheChintu-il3sq
@TheChintu-il3sq 5 ай бұрын
A proud kannadiga here! its not ""kannad" its KANNADA likewise Hindi is not hind ."The kalabaras where kannada kingdom, actually the whole northern part of modern day tamil nadu historically refered as ""kongu nadu '" region was ruled by Gangas actually the founder of ganga dynasty is ""konguni verma"" hence the region's name and kalabaras for centuries, then by hoysala (Beast killars) empire before mighty karnata empire (vijayanagara).
@raghuls1515
@raghuls1515 5 ай бұрын
Similarly tamilakam which is older than kannada is composed of south karnataka ,south Andhra ,kerala ,parts of srilanka and tamilnadu
@Sakthivel_555
@Sakthivel_555 7 күн бұрын
Gangas Tamil Velir Kings not Kannada Kings
@GIGADEV690
@GIGADEV690 5 ай бұрын
The dark ages is current era with rise of sanghis.
@ancientminds199
@ancientminds199 5 ай бұрын
The rise of Sanghis is a reaction to the rise in pseudo secularism which is Hinduphobic.
@rexxbailey2764
@rexxbailey2764 5 ай бұрын
SELL OFF A FEW SISTERS OR YOUR MOTHER TO THE HYDERABADI OR KERELA MUSLIMS THEN WHY DON'T YOU, I BET THEY WILL BRING THE BRIGHTEST OF DAY'S AND ROLICKING OF NIGHT'S RIGHT INTO YOUR HOUSES FOR THAT SMALL FEE!... EVEN SELLING OF YOUR DAUGHTERS WOULD BE WORTH IT TO BRING IN THOSE GLORIOUS MUSLIMS AND NICE WHITE SKIN JIMMY SAVILLE'S FROM YOUR EVER FAVOURITE VATICAN AFTERALL NOW! ENJOY THOSE " BRIGHT DAY'S " THEN BOUGHT IN TO YOUR LIVES BY THEMM NICELY THEN OKAY!???? 😑😒 HAVE FUN. 👌👍👍
@-rate6326
@-rate6326 5 ай бұрын
Syrian Christians in Kerala? They are foreigner isn't it dark age? Watch the video again. You might be casteist to think that? Casteism is dead. RSS is anti-Caste. Sangam era caste system wouldn't be allowed anymore. But there's new casteism in Kerala. "I am descendant of Syrian Christians" lol. You are guys are real sanghi
@suhash137
@suhash137 3 ай бұрын
Sanghis is original derived from sangha of buddism, so you say Buddhism became the dark age of history, that what you taking about, Because there was no where in history sanghis in current era,😅 ( Gigga chakka sale)
@parikshithj8636
@parikshithj8636 5 ай бұрын
Say tamil nadu, not tamilakam
@mahanirvaantantra
@mahanirvaantantra 5 ай бұрын
cry more, lemur
@suhash137
@suhash137 3 ай бұрын
சுண்டி புண்டே😂
@srinivaskumar232
@srinivaskumar232 5 ай бұрын
Cow belt guy talking about South ?
@t.4999
@t.4999 5 ай бұрын
What are you? Buffalo belt hijda? Thika muchko bosdike. Potthitu poda DMK naiye
@ancientminds199
@ancientminds199 5 ай бұрын
Because no Idli sambar guy talked about it
@srinivaskumar232
@srinivaskumar232 5 ай бұрын
@@ancientminds199 we understand ulterior motives of Cow belt thugs
@ancientminds199
@ancientminds199 5 ай бұрын
@@srinivaskumar232 feel really worried to see people like you becoming victims of the separatist agenda which is filled with hatred and superiority complex.
@times2508
@times2508 5 ай бұрын
​@@srinivaskumar232 shut up dmk cvck
@southpole4776
@southpole4776 5 ай бұрын
Dark ages started when brahmins arrived
@rexxbailey2764
@rexxbailey2764 5 ай бұрын
YES CAUSE BEFORE THAT BOTH YOUR MOM AND SISTERS AND PROBABLY EVEN YOUR GRANDMOTHERS WERE JUST HAVING TOO MUCH FUN ENJOYING THEIR TIME HAVING THEIR HOLES FILLED IN ALL THE GLORIOUS MUSLIM ORGIES ORGANISED FOR ALL ROUND FUN IN YOUR VILLAGES AND THE PALACES OF ALL YOUR MUSLIM KINGS TILL THAT TIME AFTERALL ISN'T IT ??😑😒 PIECE OF FILTH PERIYAR FILTH TRAITORS! 😑😒
@-rate6326
@-rate6326 5 ай бұрын
You are delusional. Watch the video again..
@vimdhayakjigulambipurwale4536
@vimdhayakjigulambipurwale4536 5 ай бұрын
All the ancient tamilkam dyansty claimed their ancestory with Aryan clan like solar and lunar dynasty 😂😂😂.cry more
@southpole4776
@southpole4776 5 ай бұрын
@@vimdhayakjigulambipurwale4536 what is your definition of ancient?
@-rate6326
@-rate6326 5 ай бұрын
@@southpole4776 certainly not medieval. Southern architecture is now dead. Say thanks to communitists (Russia made), pseudo secular leaders.
@maghee83
@maghee83 5 ай бұрын
what is your source off this video, you must quote them in the scribe, else people will sue for spreading mis information.
@mayankdubey2006
@mayankdubey2006 5 ай бұрын
Reference:- 1. The Dark Period: Myth or Reality? by Valerie Gillet 2. The Kalabhras in the Pandiya country and their impact on the life and letters there by M. Arunachalam 3. Viewing the Kalabhras as a hoax or historical reality by S.C Mishra and Minisha Agnihotri 4. A History of South India by K.A. Nilakanta Sastri 5. South India under the Cholas by Y. Subbarayalu 6. A Concise history of South India Edited by Noboru Karashima 7. Epigraphica India Vol 17
@mayankdubey2006
@mayankdubey2006 5 ай бұрын
Have fun
@maghee83
@maghee83 4 ай бұрын
@@mayankdubey2006 you should செ this line in this page, not just the book name
@mayankdubey2006
@mayankdubey2006 4 ай бұрын
@@maghee83 well you should contact jay about this . Yet it is better than providing no source at all
@mayankdubey2006
@mayankdubey2006 4 ай бұрын
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