Single Length (One Length) Iron Options You Can Buy in 2021 | Golf Smarter

[@geoffvansickle7370]

14:49 Mazel . I love them.... They manufacture club heads for some of the big companies

[@ThomasHoffDE]

I have used single length irons for 5 years. Had the Cobra F8s and just upgraded to the RadSpeed Graphite. LOVE them. Huge sweet spot, great sound and feel and length. Great looking clubs too. Love single length. can't see myself ever going back. They are selling too - the graphite set I have is back ordered on Cobra's site and sold out everywhere. I found a demo set at a shop and took them (this was the last set they had in stock)

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Awesome! I’m the same way. I’m never going back. The Rad is very popular. I’ve heard that from many people. I’m in the Edels and they’re by far my favorite I’ve ever hit.

[@biggregg5]

Pretty good intro. I can afford higher end stuff, but I have way many more clubs lying around than a reasonable man should. I'm tempted to throw a set together from Diamond Tour Golf. The In1zone line. I thought it was Diamond Tour's own house brand, but it's not. I like the idea of having the option of having a hybrid head option for 3,4,5 iron heads, and they do.

[@tradesmith_yt]

If you have some cash to burn, check out tour spec golfs blanks. You can have them stamped then cerakoted, it’s what I did. My fitter helped grind and weight them to a single length set. It’s some work but it was fun.

[@Midway47]

Excellent report. Provides good information and gives the individual golfer a lot of options.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thank you

[@calvinmaestro3400]

I had Carl's Golfland in Bloomfield Hills build me a custom set, 4-9, all at 5-iron length, using "spare" game improvement iron heads adjusted to 5-iron lie. Epoxy used to even out weights. Cost: $500. JUST as good. Kept PW & SW regular sizes for ability to grip down on delicate green-side shots.

[@biggregg5]

I can't imagine how those would be as good as ones manufactured originally for that purpose. The bending and weighing added and subtracted.....don't know how you can subtract significant weight from a wedge, for instance. But, maybe it's possible. Never mind on the wedge part....saw you just went to a 9. That's still 18 grams, I think.

[@calvinmaestro3400]

@@biggregg5 kept wedges unaltered. Including PW. I CHOSE 5 iron length because I hit my 3 & 5 irons the straightest. I know. Opposite of nl. Others may wish to use 7 iron length - but, graphite shafts actually are .5 inches longer. So, a same length iron set in graphite shafts really are all 6 iron lengths. Like DeChambeau Only added weights as needed to 8,7,6,5,4 irons to maintain same swing weight. Moe Norman actually preferred heavier clubs. Iron heads carefully chosen - not all makes can be bent. FYI, Ping does it all the time. Best...

[@biggregg5]

@calvinmaestro3400 So, 5/6 iron lengths and 9 iron head weight? Did you have them put a much stiffer shaft in them to accommodate the extra head weight? Years ago, before Dechambeau, I was thinking about making my own from regular clubs, but I finally decided against it because I figured there would be too much modification. That is interesting. I'm glad it worked. I tend to like heavier swingweights anyway. Maybe I'll rethink it. About 35 gr to add to your 4 iron... lots of lead tape?

[@David-mu5rv]

Do any of these companies sell components? I'm cost conscience and also enjoy doing my custom fitting. Thanks for the vid!

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Components for custom builds you’d be able to snag from some of the smaller brands: Pinhawk, In1Zone. There’s also Integra I-win. I’m not a fan of the company for a big reason, but monark golf has PinHawks and integra. Diamond Tour golf has the In1Zone components.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

You could also try to reach out to a Wishon rep/fitter to try and get some of their heads. Edel is all built in house so they’re out and Cobra same deal.

[@kmeekins2]

I've had the in1zone set from diamond tour for a few months now and am really impressed so far. They do offer a good bit of customization including lie angle adjustment, shaft selection and grips.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

That’s awesome. I’ve reached out to try to get a set to compare with the other brands, but haven’t heard back. Hopefully someday I can compare them with the big boys

[@kmeekins2]

@@SimplifyYourSwing hopefully they get back to you. I'm so pleased with DTG in general I ordered a few driving irons as well. Really impressed with everything.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

We will see what happens. It was a few months ago, so I’ll probably send another request out in the next few months.

[@AlohaSnackBR]

Hey Craig, love the video as always! Is there any advantage to going forged? I game the f9's, but I wanted to get my lie angles adjusted to 2 degrees upright. I can't find anyone that can do that on a cast club though (unless I custom order new from cobra). Seems like forged will offer the ability to bend the angles as we see fit

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

You hit the nail on the head. A lot of fitters are scared to bend cast clubs, and rightfully so. They tend to not be as solid so a much higher chance of permanent damage or a break. Forged allows for more manipulation in terms of lie and loft angles. In terms of play, they aren’t as forgiving (but close, a lot closer than they used to be). They also tend to allow for you to work the ball more. For some players, that may not be a good thing because it can exaggerate a slice or hook. But when hit solidly, there’s a new meaning to buttery soft. It’s like you don’t even feel the ball when struck. If you’re consistent with your striking and have a pretty consistent ball flight, it would be worth looking into.

[@chex313]

Just was fitted for set of EQ Wishon...5,6,7,8,9, PW, SW, and Gap W. and I have a favorite 64 degree Lob Wedge I had matched up same shaft and grip. The grips are the same thickness top to bottom and fit my hands perfectly. To me it is still all about your short game.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Hey, when you are more accurate and find more greens, there’s less short game to worry about, lol. Good luck! If you have any questions, feel free to reach out.

[@joeb5958]

Hey Craig! Great update from last years video. I see the forge tec blacks made it another summer as the gamers. Curious if you made any lie angle adjustments to your set. Ive been eyeing a set of them on eBay for a while but hate the idea of the lie angle changes they have made after the F7or8’s. Don’t forget to mention the regular forged model that’s been out since the beginning from cobra as well. The new snake bite wedges have caught my eye as well. Maybe see if you can review those if possible.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Hi Joe! Thanks. I did get this video in towards the beginning of the year. There has been a change in the bag however. I’m now gaming the Edels. They sent them out and I fell in love. All my lies are 62.5 with no offset. I’ve seen the wedges but my wife would kill me if I bought them. So unless Cobra sends them, Or I get a student with them, I’m going to have to wait a bit. I liked the Forged Black, but these Edel blew them out of the water. Check out that video!

[@johnhanks4052]

Giga golf are the best OL's I've tried and least expensive. Played Cobra F7 and F8, played 1 Iron Pro's, played Gria's, got fitted for Wishon's new EQ line...at the end of the day, the Giga's felt the best and played the best. The Gria's were really great as well, so easy to hit and hit high, but I already hit the ball high and they cost me a fair amount of distance...yet I would still highly recommend the Gria's.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thanks for the feedback. I’ve reached out to Giga golf a few times to try to get some to test but never heard back. I’m always looking to hear about ones I can’t get my hands on. It helps me guide people who are interested in the switch.

[@brian2973]

As someone who was considering dropping $$$ on getting fitted for Wishons, this is very interesting to hear.

[@brian2973]

John, can you speak a little more about your experience with Giga vs Cobra and Wishon. Very interested to hear.

[@johnhanks4052]

@@brian2973 Here's my experience: -Cobra F7, F8, and Radspeed...not terrible, but not my favorite. Felt clunky, radspeeds with varying lie angles did not feel right. Tried the Forged Tec irons as well, great when struck in the sweet spot, but unforgiving. I'm a good ball striker, currently down to a 6 handicap, but I struggled with consistent center strikes with them. -Gria...love the hybrid iron heads, feel really solid, but the flexible graphite shaft really made me launch them high and cost me about two clubs loss of distance compared to the cobras. I am taking one to get a stiffer shaft put in this week as an experiment because of how much I like the heads. -Giga...these were great clubs, only quit playing them because I stumbled across the Gria's. 5 iron was a little low launching, but was great for a tight fairway tee shot of 200 yards plus. -Wishon EQ1...could not get Wishon to respond to any emails or voicemails...several of each. Only received one response from the 8 fitters listed within 100 miles of me...that one response was "one length clubs don't work". I happened to be out in California for work and found a fitter to go try the Wishon's. The fitter wasn't very knowledgeable, so maybe that was part of the problem. The face of the club felt harsh to me, they went the distance the were supposed to, but I couldn't get past the harsh feel of the face. Currently gaming Cleveland XL Halo Hybrid irons, stupid easy clubs to hit. I do miss the one length set as I struggle sometimes with controlling the 4-6 iron and lost 10-15 yards on my 9, PW, GW. If the Gria's with a stiff graphite or steel shaft don't work, I'll go do an Edel fitting and drop the cash if I like them. Best of luck in your OL journey.

[@diabloflaco7003]

When are we going to see more mainstream manufactures make SL clubs? I have been gaming my Pinhawks, but thinking about upgrades.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Whenever the next pro wanting them signs with a major manufacturer unfortunately. Bryson switching brands would do it as well, but it’s such a niche that no one else is willing to take the risk yet. Might be 4-5 years before we see another.

[@michaelhottman8340]

I play cobra f9 one length (left hand). I’m interested in getting fitted (lie angle, shaft, grip,, etc). Which companies make mid-range single length custom clubs? Also how can you gap them? Or is the gapping done in the original fitting?

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Hi Michael. So if you’re looking for a true fitting, Cobra would be the only brand that offers that in the mid-range. Wishon and Edel do it as well, but they are upper end of costs. 1iron goes off of a wrist to floor measurement. Pinhawk can be contacted to build to specs, so if you had a one length fitting done for Cobra, you could take those and order pinhawk. Same would go for the In1Zone and Giga Golf. Gapping should be handled from the original fitting. Get the lie angle, shaft length and grip then build those brands custom. One thing to keep in mind with shafts is to get a single length or one length shaft so the kick points match with the head. A regular KBS shaft won’t work with single lengths correctly.

[@fitnessrealty]

I am loving your channel, thanks. I just got a set of one lengths... I have a question for you, but I haven't seen it anywhere on your material yet. How do you recommend cutting down a driver, or a 3 wood...I have SW through 4i, my 4i goes about 195 to 250, depending on off the tee, downhill, downwind of course, but typically around 200 off the deck. How would you recommend getting a longer club than a 4i, but still keeping it 7i length? I will keep checking out your channel for something that mentions that, but just figured I would ask here. Thanks.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thanks for the support and awesome to have you on board. In terms of a diver, 3w etc. being cut down to 7i length, there’s a lot of potential issues and a ton of work that needs to be done to get yourself a driver/3w at 7i length that will actually perform. I actually have my Driver and 3w shorter by an inch compared to what’s standard. That allows me a little better control without much distance loss. In terms of companies that offer some shorter Drivers and woods, take a peek at Pinhawk or 1iron. They look like they have some good options. If you’re wanting to cut your current, I highly recommend a fitter as they can make sure the swing weight stays the same.

[@fitnessrealty]

@@SimplifyYourSwing wow thank you for the speedy response!!! You rock. I did notice that, I took an old ping driver, and just lopped off the end, to 37.5, it feels super light, and super weird. It might make for a good side content vid for my channel, but I normally make real estate related content, so not sure I will even shoot it. I love the one lengths though. I am also gonna watch some vids you have about how to chip with them, they are super awkward.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@fitnessrealty that Ping test should give you an idea of the issues you’d face. Feel free to email me anytime [e-mail] for any questions you may have.

[@dj_s6906]

Soo glad I found ur channel

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thank you and welcome!

[@jeffreidenbaughs9707]

I’d love to see you review a company called Giga golf out of Miami...They have a single length set for under 350.00 depending on grips and shafts that are chosen...

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Funny you mention that…I just put my brother in law in a set as he’s starting his golf journey and have another student who got hers through them. Typically I won’t review anything anymore that I’d have to buy. But since they’re in the family, I’ll definitely get one done here in the next few weeks. I’ve got a few other reviews and things to pump out first.

[@Eqnotalent]

Do any of them actually off upright offset like Bryson? Most of them all said u don’t need it, just change your wrist angle

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

For the right price...anyone will do anything you want. Or at least should. I’d say if that’s what you’re looking for, your best bets are fully customize with Cobra or Edel or Wishon. The other brands In not sure could handle that much bend.

[@Eqnotalent]

@@SimplifyYourSwing I already have a set on F7 cobra, sterling, oneIron. Is there actually difference between F7 and the new model? On picture, they look the same.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Between the F7 and new Radspeed, there’s going to be a ton of difference. You’re talking 4 iterations difference. They’ve made a lot of improvements in fixing flight and gapping issues some experienced with the F7 and F8. They’ve also tweaked their lie angles and offsets with the idea of fixing some of the early issues experienced. I’ve hit the Speedzones (last year model) and found them vastly improved over the F7.

[@Eqnotalent]

@@SimplifyYourSwing thanks for your reply. Do you know the difference between rad speed vs speedzone? They both are still available to order online with +4 upright offset.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@Eqnotalent honestly from the conversation I had with their VP of R&D, he said not much. They’re very similar with a couple small tweaks that adds 2-3 yards with the RAD

[@duffypratt]

I’ve been interested in single length as well, but have not had a chance to try them. Wishon strongly recommends having them custom fitted, but the only fitter in the area is not seeing anyone due to the pandemic. (He’s only repairing clubs now.). There are two online options I’ve found - one where you send a video to the guy and he makes recommendations, and one place where you can simply order them. In both cases, I would be worried about getting badly fitted shafts. I might be overthinking it - I’ve only been playing for about 4 months. I’m interested in the Cobras, but I think it odd that they vary the lie angles. I don’t know whether that would have a big impact, but it seems to me that a change in lie angle could easily lead to a change in set-up, which kind of defeats the purpose. I might be wrong on this. The Pinhawks seem to get good reviews, and are really cheap for what they are, but they seem perpetually backordered.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

That’s unfortunate about the fitter... shafts can make a big difference. PinHawks are very popular. Cobra does that because they believe people swing the clubs differently as opposed to the same. So it could cause some slight setup issues, but not major. Maybe speak with Wishon and see if they have a recommendation where you could go to any fitter and send them specs. Or if you have a simulator location near you that uses trackman or flight scope or a higher end system maybe you could video chat them from there for your fitting? Hopefully it can get worked out for you.

[@metalheads-golf]

Hi Greg, ... good summary of what's out there. I'm curious about the Blackstone of 1Iron. I've been in contact with them and unfortunately in Europe The Netherlands there was no other way then buy the set and send back if not to liking. But that's to big of a hassle for me here. Hope you can get a hold of these, really wondering how they perform. Stay metal, Eric. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thanks Eric! Hopefully I can get my hands on some to test when we finally get through Winter here. I just saw your update the other day...excited for the big things you have planned my friend in the Netherlands. Good luck with the lockdown/curfew

[@metalheads-golf]

@@SimplifyYourSwing 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻 thank you and yups ... needed to get some structure and ideas and plans worked out. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻

[@adamosman6417]

I have the 1Iron Proline. They are awesome. I suspect most of these club brands are good, but I can only speak to what I own. Got them last summer (July 2020). Replaced my CF-16's. Felt great from the first swing. If you do make the switch, read and follow all their advice about ball stance and swing. FYI, I was a low to mid 80 player occasionally a high 70 when in the zone. Now I would consider myself a high 70 to low 80 player. It's more about how I'm driving, my approaches are dead on with these clubs. They do have a high flight path, so a little challenging in windy conditions. Definitely more birdie attempts each round, and had a few eagle attempts (didn't make any lol). Any way I like my 1Irons.

[@metalheads-golf]

@@adamosman6417 Sound you had a great fit with those irons. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻

[@jadamane]

They also have Pinhawk hybrid set ... all hybrids from long too wedge

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I forgot all about those...you’re correct. They’re the only ones that do that.

[@jadamane]

@@SimplifyYourSwing I’m your Krutch dawg! Mi love my golf family ! I got your back broski 🤴🏾🤴🏼

[@summerhayscustomgolf9678]

I've tried most of the top mentions. Wishon gets it right. Sterlings and EQ1-NX'S are excellent for improving your game. Also consider the EQ1-NX'S fwy and hybrids - takes SL to a new level.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I’ve reached out to Wishon a few times to try to get a test done, but have never heard back. And the fitters on their site that are around me aren’t in business or won’t do the single length. So I don’t have a personal testimonial to those, but would love to add them in someday and get some filming done with them. Ideally, I’d love to have tested every option out there.

[@jackhlms3116]

Does any1 know if orlimar is a good set 2 get started with single length 🤔

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

I have a student that bought Orlimar 2nd hand. I hit a few with them. If you’re looking to try the concept and get into it for low cost, they do well. As you get better, you’ll definitely want to upgrade. But to start, they’re a good set.

[@kourt2469]

Thanks for the video. I'll chime in on the wishon clubs. I've built a few of these sets, They definitely aren't as expensive as cobra. Probably run you around $100-$125 per club depending on the fitter and shaft grip choice. the Eq1's are definitely a game improvement club not a players club. Longer blade length and a hollow body head. Slightly bigger than the sterlings.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thanks for the info. I’ve not been able to see them in person so always hard to give 100% accurate info. And of course, websites only give so much. Maybe someday I’ll be able to finally give them a run

[@Pentimenti]

@@SimplifyYourSwing I emailed Wishon - nothing. Emailed agian - nothing. I called, and they dont know how much they cost. They want you to go get a fitter: I live in golf capital and got two numbers, only one worked. I dont think they like selling clubs.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@Pentimenti thanks for trying. I’ve heard that they want you to a fitter. So unless they have a fitter wanting to donate, I don’t think that’s going to happen unfortunately

[@Pentimenti]

@@SimplifyYourSwing I hope Sub 70 makes a single length or something....everything else is either crap (Cobra), Overpriced (Edel) and in England....unreal.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@Pentimenti I’d love to see that. Edel are up there in cost, but from all my testing, well worth it.

[@chrisjuhl801]

I have been playing Pinhawk SL irons for 2 years. Great entry pice. Now that I have switched to SL, I will never go back.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

That’s awesome! After 5+ years of trying to convince him, my grandfather just got the PinHawks to start off with. If he’s convinced, he’ll jump up to Edel. He just wanted to make sure it’s right for him.

[@brendam.889]

Gria golf has single length hybrid/irons. They do a floor to wrist measurement. Wonderful clubs.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Thanks for the heads up. That’s the first I’ve heard of those. From the looks of it, they’re a hybrid style set. That would have potential for a lot of golfers that really struggle.

[@brendam.889]

Gria golf also has a 30 day no questions asked try before you buy policy.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

That’s a good deal. They’d be interesting to test against some of the other brands. If they ever offer to send some to test, I’ll take them up on it.

[@colinbelcher1342]

They are somewhat associated with 1iron golf so they are reputable as far as knowledge.

[@kirkhindoien7666]

Waiting for my set to ship this week!

[@jamesclark7630]

Your the single length guy but you can’t spring $200 to test out the PGX irons?

[@adamosman6417]

I have the 1Iron Proline. They are awesome. I suspect most of these club brands are good, but I can only speak to what I own. Got them last summer (July 2020). Replaced my CF-16's. Felt great from the first swing. If you do make the switch, read and follow all their advice about ball stance and swing. FYI, I was a low to mid 80 player occasionally a high 70 when in the zone. Now I would consider myself a high 70 to low 80 player. It's more about how I'm driving, my approaches are dead on with these clubs. They do have a high flight path, so a little challenging in windy conditions. Definitely more birdie attempts each round, and had a few eagle attempts (didn't make any lol). Any way I like my 1Irons.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Welcome to the club and glad you have found success! Same setup and swing for every iron is key. I’ve yet to try any of the 1iron sets, but hope to soon.

[@scottycameron9805]

Biggest issues seems low flights on the longest irons. So who has the highest flying 5,4 irons?

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

Great question. With the 4-5, the company I’ve been able to test that has the best flight with 4-5 is Edel. The shafts they use address that and definitely give the highest flight of the brands I’ve tried.

[@scottycameron9805]

@@SimplifyYourSwing But I like a larger club head. I’ve used blades in the past and not a fan of the feeling when I don’t hit it perfect. Plus the larger club head of “game improvement “ is easier on a 50 yr olds eyes. So.....????

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@scottycameron9805 well that changes the game, lol. So here’s the absolute key when looking for the ideal flights in single length: it’s all in the shaft. To an extent, the club head weighting helps, but after trying multiple companies and multiple shafts, the shaft is the key. You could probably go with a set of Pinhawk and get the closest to the flight you’d expect with variable length. Cobra is always getting better as well. They’re not Edel height, but if you could get those heads with Paderson one length shafts, that could get you there. The other option is always to get a 4-5 hybrid over the irons.

[@georgewheatley9008]

Avoid Wishon SL hybrids. The face finish will show rust spots within a short time due to the poor quality of the finish. The company will not admit to the problem.

[@The1302thor]

I bought a set of Cobra F7 One Lengths and fell in love with them. After a while i sold them to upgrade to the F8 One Lengths. I didnt get along with the F8s at all so i sold them. But ever since I switched back to standard length irons I have wanted to go back to one length. One Lengths just fit my swing and and what my body is capable of. My local club fitter does fittings for the Wishon irons which is definitely the way to go. However this will cost THOUSANDS of dollars for a fitting which practically no one can afford. I stumbled upon this video to hear your thoughts on some of the cheaper models. However, i honestly dont think that the brand matters at all. Especially with one length. After having the Cobras, i think id rather have one of the cheaper sets. The name on the club isnt doing anything for you.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

You make some great points Ethan. Some sets will just be better for guys regardless of the brand. It comes down to trust and being confident. I think in your case, probably something from Pinhawk or 1iron might be better suited, as they have the experience over some of the other less expensive brands. But any way you go, I’d love to hear what you chose and how they go for you.

[@The1302thor]

@@SimplifyYourSwing So, i picked up a set of the pinemeadow pgx1 for $150 on sale. I honestly like them more than the cobras. They feel very solid for such a cheap set of irons. I would definitely recommend these to anyone wanting to get into single lengths.

[@SimplifyYourSwing]

@@The1302thor awesome. Glad to hear they are a quality option. I’ll make sure to pass on the info to anyone that asks. Thanks for getting back to me.

[@jw5491]

Orlimar also makes a budget SL iron set.