OG King Has Entered The Chat - Razer Deathadder V2 Pro

Razer Deathadder V2 Pro Review. Finally, you palm grippers have a premium mouse you can call your own with Gen 2 optical switches, the best sensor on the market, 100% PTFE, wireless, and an ergonomic right-handed shape. It's an excellent mouse for right-handed users that have medium to large hands and use a palm grip. For others outside of that it may vary.
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DIFFERENCES BETWEEN DEATHADDERS:
The Deathadder Essential is their base model at $49.99 and is overpriced for subpar tech and should be avoided. In my mind it doesn’t exist. The Deathadder Mini also costs $49.99 but comes with improved internals and beats the Deathadder Essential in every category but is smaller in stature compared to its siblings. The Deathadder Elite has now been replaced with the Deathadder V2 that costs $69.99 which comes with the best specs they have to offer and is the one I recommend if you are going wired. If you want wireless we are now onto this mouse which is the Razer Deathadder V2 Pro.
CURRENT VERSIONS:
Razer Deathadder Essential ($49.99):
- Wired
- Mechanical switches rated for 10 million clicks
- Sensor: 6,400 DPI Sensor. 220 IPS. 30 G.
- Weight: 96 Grams
- Feet: Standard PTFE
- Cable: Standard Braided Cable
- Buttons: 5 fully programmable buttons
- Lighting: Green LED Only. DOES NOT SUPPORT RGB.
Razer Deathadder Mini ($49.99):
- Wired
- Optical Switch (infrared light beam), response time 0.2 milliseconds, no debounce rate, immune to double clicks, rated for 70 million clicks
- Sensor: Optical. 8.500 DPI Sensor. 300 IPS. 35 G.
- Weight: 62 Grams (Made for small to medium sized hands)
- Feet: 100% PTFE
- Cable: Speedflex Cable
- Buttons: 6 fully programmable buttons with 1 onboard profiles and instinctive scroll wheel tactility
- Lighting: Full Chroma RGB lighting
- Accessories: Grip Tape.
Razer Deathadder V2 ($69.99):
- Wired
- Optical Switch (infrared light beam), response time 0.2 milliseconds, no debounce rate, immune to double clicks, rated for 70 million clicks
- Sensor: Focus+. 20,000 DPI Sensor. 99.6% Resolution accuracy. Intelligent functions (Smart Tracking, Asymmetric Cut-off, Motion Sync). 650 IPS. 50 G.
- Weight: 82 Grams
- Feet: 100% PTFE
- Cable: Speedflex Cable
- Buttons: 8 fully programmable buttons with 5 onboard profiles and instinctive scroll wheel tactility
- Lighting: Full Chroma RGB lighting
(THIS VIDEO) Razer Deathadder V2 Pro ($129.99 - $149.99):
- Wireless: Hyperspeed Wireless: 25% faster than any other wireless. 3 modes of connection (HyperSpeed, wired, Bluetooth 5.0).
- Battery life: 70 Hours Hyperspeed wireless. 120 hours Bluetooth.
- 2nd Gen Optical Switch (infrared light beam), response time 0.2 milliseconds, no debounce rate, immune to double clicks, rated for 70 million clicks. Greater tactile feedback, every click now feels more satisfying.
- Sensor: Focus+. 20,000 DPI Sensor. 99.6% Resolution accuracy. Intelligent functions (Smart Tracking, Asymmetric Cut-off, Motion Sync). 650 IPS. o 50 G
- Weight: 88 Grams
- Feet: 100% PTFE
- Cable: Speedflex Cable
- Buttons: 8 fully programmable buttons with 5 onboard profiles and fine-tuned scroll wheel tactility
- Lighting: Full Chroma RGB lighting
- Accessories: Chroma Dock: Sold separately for $49.99 or can bundle with it for $30 off.
- Injection-molded rubber side grips. Never peel off.
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TimeStamps:
Intro: 00:00:00
Four Versions of Deathadders: 00:44
Quick differences: 01:04
Buttons: 01:24
Gen 2 Optical Switches: 01:35
Compared To Mechanical Switches: 01:47
Click Overview/Test: 01:55
Side Buttons: 02:21
Razer QA: 02:40
Scroll Wheel: 03:00
Weight: 03:16
Weight/Shape Compared To Others: 03:21
How Important is weight? 03:41
Build Quality: 4:10
Shape: 04:59
PTFE Feet: 05:24
Battery Life: 06:04
BS Marketing: 06:27
On/Off Switch: 07:29
Speedflex Cable: 07:39
Razer Mouse Dock: 07:58
Mouse Dock Bundle Prices: 08:16
HyperSpeed Wireless: 08:55
HyperSpeed vs Lightspeed Wireless: 09:17
Cons of Lightspeed Wireless: 09:28
How to Maximize LightSpeed Connection: 09:38
Razer Synapse: 10:18
Focus+ Sensor Tech: 11:10
Smart Tracking/Asymmetric Cut-off: 11:18
Motion Sync: 11:42
Focus+ Sensor Performance: 12:02
Focus+ vs HERO Sensor: 12:23
Conclusion: 12:27
Why I Bought This Mouse: 12:59
Works Great On 2 PC Setups: 14:15
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[@ElephoontOfTheShapes]

Wow, I just bought this mouse 30 minutes ago. Then I went on KZbin and this video came up in my recommended videos. And I'm not complaining

[@ThomasMuehler]

Sounds like fate. It was destined to be. lol

[@anthonym7804]

appreciate how thorough and concise you are with your points man, nice to see how in touch you are with your community. think i'm gonna pick this mouse up, thanks for the amazing review!

[@ThomasMuehler]

I really appreciate the kind words! Also, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it once/if you pick it up and have had some time to try it out.

[@FriendNotFoeBand]

You can totally get insane movement and aim with this mouse at almost any sensitivity. In fact, for fine aiming, this is one of the best large ergo mice. Many pros use the Deathadder. The way it puts the balance of your hand over your fingers make centering around the map at chest/head height very steady, and the lack of rear palm contact makes it easy to flick off of your center quickly and accurately. The sensor is about 50dpi fast on average like most Razer mice, but it is uber responsive and consistent. My only beef with the shape, and where the EC1 improves on it, is the top of the right flare is somewhat sharp and digs into my ring finger right at the nail. Kind of a deal breaker for me, but just wanted to set the record straight that this is one of the sweatiest FPS mice, period, and probably the most technologically sound large wireless ergo on the market.

[@ThomasMuehler]

Oh man, absolutely loved the rundown! I appreciate you taking the time to share. Shape is so critical and little tiny things really do make or break a mouse. I've been a huge fan of the Focus+ sensor because the performance you can get out of it is absolutely insane. Mice are just now starting to catch up and it's still holding top spot.

[@dradis1]

Yup, this is what I need today :D Thank you for the review!

[@ThomasMuehler]

Glad to hear it!

[@xJoyy]

good in depth video if you remember me i actually went with the g pro x superlight since its the best mouse for valorant and every professional valorant player uses it

[@ThomasMuehler]

Yep I do remember! We kept going back and fourth between the Viper 8k or the Viper Ultimate. Sounds like you ended up with the G Pro X Superlight which is another excellent option and choice!

[@cablair]

Got mine coming in tomorrow. Have the viper ultimate already so I have the charging dock but haven’t used a da in a long time. Looking forward to it!

[@ThomasMuehler]

Oh man I'm excited for you! I'd love to hear your thoughts on it once it comes in.

[@cablair]

@@ThomasMuehler gotcha my friend. I love the viper ultimate but I really miss the ergo shape of the deathadder so I’ll mess with it for a few days and let you know

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@cablair I feel you on that one. That's one of the reasons why I picked it up. Just wanted something more ergonomic.

[@GanDtech]

I think the front side button being more stiff is by design if I had to guess. They both still feel really good and I’ve never been let down by the DA side buttons on any model.

[@ThomasMuehler]

I would tend to agree with you. But I tend to try and be as specific as I can in my reviews just in case that is someone's pet peeve.

[@Unavenged]

Great video, cant believe I never saw this one from you. This is my main and I love it. The only mouse that can take me away from this is a wireless MM720. Oh and Pancakes.

[@ThomasMuehler]

I'm glad you enjoyed it! It's a fantastic mouse. I have an MM720 but I haven't had time to get around to actually testing it yet. But I've heard good things based on the unique shape and it being very comfortable. Specs are good too. Maybe here soon they will come out with a wireless variant. Also, I appreciate the support my dude!

[@RandomZeroGravity]

12:59 It's true, the viper ultimate is not comfortable for me after using it, I feel like it's too small for my grip. Great review btw. I am definitely buying this mouse with confidence. Thank you so much to review it.

[@ThomasMuehler]

I'm glad it was beneficial. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it once you have some time to try it out.

[@pazonk4376]

@@ThomasMuehler my hands and roughly 17cm x 7cm. Do you recommend the viper ultimate or the b2 pro?

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@pazonk4376 I don't know what your grip style is. If it isn't palm then the V2 Pro is not going to be a good choice. If it is palm I still worry that the mouse may be a bit too large for your hand to be comfortable (but I wouldn't know for sure until you tried it). The Razer Viper V2 Pro just dropped. Like literally a couple of minutes ago. I just ordered one. But with the Razer Viper Ultimate being one of my favorites of all time and it now having new updates that will hopefully address the very small shortcomings it's hard for me not to recommend that one. The RVU tends to be more of a fingertip/claw grip mouse. But with your hand size palm may also work. If you don't care about the new updates you can probably find the RVU for cheap as it will likely be going on clearance.

[@pazonk4376]

@@ThomasMuehler I do use palm grip. I should’ve also mentioned that I am currently using a Deathadder Elite and it fits my hand pretty well, although it is a bit bigger than my hand being fully spread out on it. I probably will check out the VU as I’ve heard great things about it and it comes with the charging dock instead of having to buy it separately. Thanks for the review and the response!

[@darkaheart]

how does the mouse perform when dragging items across the desktop/multiple monitors, selecting text, or just making select boxes on the desktop? does it stutter or is it fluent like a wired mouse?

[@ThomasMuehler]

It does beautifully without any issues whatsoever just like a wired mouse. You won't be able to tell a difference. If you do notice stutter then you've got a defective unit. It's actually been found that a lot of the top tier wireless mice (which this is) actually perform faster and better than a lot of wired mice.

[@F4LK3N893]

Sir i ordered a razer viper 8k is it better as the deathadder v2? I jope i didnt make a mistake. I loved my old dethadder and the form fits for my hand so i hope the viper 8k will not be too small X(

[@ThomasMuehler]

I main a Viper 8K. As I think it is the better mouse for my preferences. I would also say objectively the Viper 8K is better than the Deathadder V2 (wired variant). Since the Viper supports 8,000 Hz and is lighter. But otherwise they have the same specs outside of shape. Compared to the Deathadder V2. Again I think the 8k is better. But it comes down to personal preference again. The Viper is lighter, supports 8,000 Hz, and has the same specs as the Deathadder outside of not being wireless and having a different shape). But if you palm grip, have a large hand, and hate cords then the Deathadder may be a better fit. I'd also argue that the side buttons are better on the Deathadder. I wouldn't have too much buyers remorse. But my recommendation would be to try out the Viper 8k. Compare it to your other Deathadder in comparison to shape. If you end up really liking the Viper 8k then keep it. If you hate it then return it and buy the Deathadder V2. For example if you think you preform better with the Viper 8K (at 1,000 Hz) because it feels more responsive but can't stand the shape then you'll probably prefer the Deathadder V2 as it has the same internals but a shape you like. The caveat here would be if you feel a huge difference between 8,000/4,000 Hz and 1,000 Hz. As you can't get that on the Deathadder. Which is why I personally use the Viper 8k more than wireless mice. But prefer the freedom of wireless mice. So I tend to switch back and forth depending on what I am doing and how I am feeling that day.

[@Bilkkis]

i want to move to all wireless setup (mouse, keyboard and headset) is it a good idea to buy a USB hun and place it right under my monitor to be as close as possible to the devices ?

[@ThomasMuehler]

I think with Razer's newest wireless devices you can connect two devices to a single dongle. Plus they come with extenders making it so you'd only need two things plugged in instead of three. I think some other companies do something similar but can't remember off the top of my head. I think I've read somewhere that you should try and keep distance between your wireless dongle and USB Hubs/PC. But I'd recommend researching that further yourself for confirmation. I think it says in the actual documentation it comes with. My thoughts on why that would be are: 1. With so many devices next to each other (either on PC or Hub) and depending on the build quality/components of the USB hub/PC it can add interference. Just like when it is connected to your PC. Which is why they tend to give extenders. Which I think would be fine if plugged into a Powered USB Hub. As I personally haven't had issues with my devices when plugged into a USB Hub that is away from my computer but all my USB Hubs are powered. I have had issues with it plugged directly into my desktop PC (without the extender) but not laptop. 2. If you have a non-powered USB hub it may not be able to provide enough stable power to all your devices which can cause abnormalities to happen. So you'd want to get a powered USB hub you'd have more than enough. I suppose maybe if that power being delivered to the Hub isn't being regulated well that could also add inference but I'm grasping at straws there. 3. Technically, USB shares bandwidth and usually isn't on separate lanes. But especially, with a HUB it will be sharing the bandwidth with whatever else is connected. If you had a stupid amount of high powered devices plugged in at the same time it may over saturate that lane and cause abnormalities as well. But that is pretty hard to do. But barring you don't have any issues then yes, if you bought a POWERED USB Hub and kept it under your monitor it would help assure you don't run into any issues. However, I'm not sure if you need that added cost (depending on what you buy) as most wireless gaming peripherals come with a USB-A to USB-C cable -> USB-C to USB-A adapter. Which allows it to get distance from your PC (and other electrical interference) to give you the best signal. If you buy a product where you can pair both say the mouse and keyboard to a single dongle then you'd only need two ports on your PC open for it instead of three. Making the need for a hub less likely. That was a super long answer for a simple question. Sorry.

[@Bilkkis]

@@ThomasMuehler Big thanks for the time ❤️💪🏻

[@imanoli.8343]

This or VPU??? LOVE your videos

[@ThomasMuehler]

The specs are going to be pretty similar between the two. The biggest differences are going to be shape and weight. With mice being personal I can't really tell you which to get. As it comes down to what you are looking for. I've heard some users absolutely love the Razer Viper Ultimate. I've heard other who report that they prefer the Deathadder because they perform the best with it. I guess my recommendation would be it depends on your grip style and hand size. If you have a larger hand with more of a palm grip you'll probably prefer the Deathadder. If you are more of a claw or fingertip grip and play super competitively the Razer Viper may be best for you. I think either way you win as they are both great mice.

[@markschwacofer1802]

I have the cheap Basilsk x wireless it randomly shuts off even though im using it, does this do that? the other thing i was wondering if you had any thoughts on the after market charging stands? i bought this mouse over the roccat kain 200 because it has bluetooth and im looking for a bigger mouse because i have big hands. I bought a new sealed box 1 on ebay for 58 including shipping. i mostly just play mmo's .

[@ThomasMuehler]

Your Basilisk X shouldn't randomly shut off when you are using it. I'd recommend going through the RMA process (if applicable). I'm not sure if that will work since you got it off Ebay? But it would be worth checking out regardless. No, this mouse does not do that and no wireless mouse should. As that means it is defective. You mention Bluetooth. You should make sure to be using the HyperSpeed Wireless when gaming. As that will give you the lowest latency. Also, you want to make sure the wireless dongle is as close as possible. As if it is too far away it can cause drops. You can also use Bluetooth during normal browsing as that will make your battery last a lot longer but has higher latency. As for the aftermarket charging stands. I've never even heard of them. I thought the stock charging dock was $30. Looks like it is $50. That's outrageous. WTF? An aftermarket one should work just fine. As pogo pins with the correct current shouldn't be an issue. But I didn't think the Razer Basilisk X had pogo pins on the bottom for that to work in the first place. Or did I misunderstand your question? Also, if you end up buying the Deathadder V2 Pro directly from Razer for full price. I'd recommend buying the BUNDLE which makes the dock $30 over $50 so the Mouse and the Dock would be $150. Alternatively, if you are going to go full price, it may be cheaper to go to Best Buy or Amazon (depending on where you live) and get the Razer Viper Ultimate and Deathadder V2 Pro (as they are both on sale for about $80). Then you would get the RVU w/ charging dock and Deathadder V2 Pro for about the same price. Two mice is better than one for the same price? Otherwise finding a cheap Deathadder V2 Pro right now is doable as I think they are on sale for a great price at Amazon ($52 for renewed or $75 for new) and Best Buy ($89 which will price match Amazon FYI) assuming you live in the US. If you happen to get it off Amazon (and only do that if you were going to anyways. As I want you to do what is best for YOU. I'd love for you to use my affiliate link so I can get a small commission which is linked in the description).

[@GanDtech]

Thats a common issue on that model in particular I'd exchange it out for something else if you can. I had that happen to me right away when I tried it out, no other wireless Razer mouse I've used had that problem besides the Basilisk X.

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@GanDtech Interesting. I didn't know that.

[@scxr1526]

Mr Galahad i just found a person selling a huntsman v2 analog for 72 dollars in the Philippines I checked his store to see if it was fake and i saw so much 5 star reviews from him and somehow he has so much keyboards mice basically gaming gear and he has a yt channel should i buy it or not to test my luck?

[@ThomasMuehler]

So, if he has a KZbin channel he may be selling products he bought or got for free at reduced prices. Especially, if he is a popular KZbinr (by that I mean high subscriber and view count) as selling a product would mean less as the money he would make off the video would be good enough that selling the product to recuperate loss would be less needed. But $72 is like unbelievably cheap for that so that makes me highly suspicious. My thought process is if you can see the product before buying then I'd go for it. As then you can verify it is legit. If you can't see the product before buying then I guess it depends on how much you value $72 and are willing to sacrifice it in the case of it being a scam. I think things look encouraging but scams have gotten super good these days and $72 is super cheap for that keyboard which sounds a bit too good to be true which usually means it is too good to be true. The only reason why I'm supportive is because he has a KZbin channel and sometimes like I said people sell things for way reduce prices just to get rid of them. But man it's a hard call. I'd be interested to hear what you decide to go with and if you buy it and it ends up being legit what you think of it.

[@scxr1526]

@@ThomasMuehler imma skip it for now since my keyboard is still performing well thx for your answer mr galahad

[@pressingrock]

hey there, you may remember me i was asking for the stifness of the viper 8k' s scroll wheel, sadly it didnt suit me and i had to return it, a friend of mine owns a RVU and the scroll wheel while being stiff it isnt as stiff as in 9k's, what about deathadder v2 pro? how would you say it is? stiff smooth light compared to ie roccat burst pro or other razer mice thanks in advance

[@ThomasMuehler]

Hey pressingrock! I sure do remember you. Sorry the 8k's scroll wheel didn't work for you. I do agree the RVU scroll wheel is also stiff but not as stiff. As for the Deathadder V2 Pro I think you would really enjoy it if my model is the same as others. As I've been paying more attention to scroll wheels since our last conversation and think it is ideal. It is lighter than both the Viper 8k and Viper Ultimate. I forgot what the Roccat feels like but I'd go off my last comment as that stands. But the scroll wheel force to move is light, it is very smooth, but you still have very defined steps. It also isn't very loud. Middle mouse click is also good.

[@pressingrock]

@@ThomasMuehler thanks for the response man, ill note it, bad thing is that rvu is on sale for 99 euros while DAv2 pro costs 140 :S, is it huge the difference between scroll wheel's smoothness ???

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@pressingrock I see the Deathadder V2 Pro on Sale for 103 on Amazon and Best Buy. I think that started yesterday. With that said, if I had a rough guess, I would almost say that the difference between the Razer Viper 8K to the Viper Ultimate is the same difference from the Viper Ultimate to the Deathadder in regards to smoothness and lightness. If that makes sense.

[@pressingrock]

@@ThomasMuehler hello thanks for your response, sadly here in europe i cant find it for such low price. anyway i just got to know about new roccat's release kone pro air wireless mouse, i think i will go for that one since they have implemented the new PMW3370 sensor, and im sure its pretty much on par with razer's focus + sensor.

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@pressingrock Oh how frustrating! As for the Kone Pro Air. I heard it is based on the PMW3370 sensor which is close to the Razer Focus+. But I'd still argue that the Focus+ is a step up. As the specs are still a step up in all regards and the Focus+ has some other tech that makes it more accurate outside of the specs that the PMW3370 doesn't have. However, I'd also argue at this point we are splitting hairs as both of those sensors are a 10/10. Assuming the spec sheet is correct without any significant issues like we have experienced with the MOW BAMF sensor. Also, I think the Roccat would likely be a better choice for you anyways since you really enjoy the Burst Pro already and this new mouse looks very similar. I also much prefer the pre-heated PTFE feet and overall feel of the Roccat over Razer. As I think their products feel a bit more solid and premium. Especially the coating. But the specs and actual use of Razer has continued to impress me compared to other mice. I think I may also be looking at the new Roccat mouse when it comes out. But no guarantees but it does have my attention which means I'll probably check it out.

[@mtbboy1993]

apparently, there was a Left-handed version of the regular mouse. But not seen it sold in Norway. But maybe razer discontinued it. But see it online in some places.

[@ThomasMuehler]

Interesting. I'm not sure if I knew that or not. If you are still looking for a new mouse. You may want to check out the Corsair Sabre RGB Pro (or wireless but you don't like wireless). I'm trying that out for a review and find it to be very comfortable and it's an ergo right hand mouse like your old mouse and the Deathadder V2. Top of the line specs as well.

[@mtbboy1993]

@@ThomasMuehler I am not looking for a mouse for me now, but my dad got my old mouse now but its only a temporary solution until we figur eout which mouse is best for him, my old mouse doesn't fit him well, but OK. So we suspect the Deathadder v2 might be too big, but he might try mine someday. But he liked the smaller mice. But I am not sur eif it's only size or shape Tha ti's the issue. My old mouse was quite tall, and had steeper palm rest. So not optimal fit.

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@mtbboy1993 Gotcha that makes sense. I'm sure you'll figure out a good one for him.

[@sedliska]

No matter which mouse I try, I keep coming back to Deathadder V2 Pro. But ROG Gladius III wireless is next. Should come out this month. I have 2nd generation wired version and I gotta say it has the best shape I have ever tried. Palm grip books might get rewritten very soon!

[@ThomasMuehler]

Huh, I haven't heard of the ROG Gladius. But after looking in to it I am very interested in trying the newest version out when it releases. Especially, with your high praise. Appreciate the heads up.

[@sedliska]

@@ThomasMuehler The newest version has slightly different shape though. Hopefully they didnt screw it up very much.

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@sedliska Good to know. I'm assuming since you like it so much you'll end up picking it up. If so, and you remember I'd love to hear your thoughts on it compared to the previous generation.

[@sedliska]

@@ThomasMuehler I will let you know. The 2nd generation had its flaws. Bad skates, bad side grips, bad cable and not the best build quality. But the shape fit me so well that I ended up using it for 2-3 months. Even tho I had plenty of "better" mice. I have new ROG Keris wireless (too small for me) and it seems that Asus has figured it out. So we will see... because of the Keris, my expectations are big.

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@sedliska ROG Is a good brand. And I think a lot of companies are now coming into the modern age of mice (meaning good shapes, sizes, skates, sensors, etc.) I am very much looking forward to your impression on it.

[@PhewgeeRyu]

Can you tell me how not to make a mistake and take Deathadder V2 with GEN2?

[@ThomasMuehler]

I have no idea. As there isn't a way you can guarantee it. They slowly made changes to the switches and are still making changes to make them better. Plus if your clicks feel good then there is no reason to be concerned about it. If they don't then I'd exchange it. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

[@PhewgeeRyu]

@@ThomasMuehler Oh, anyway, thanks for the answer.

[@visit2000]

Aerox 3 wireless va deathadder v2 pro for craw ?

[@ThomasMuehler]

I find the Aerox 3 to be better for claw. I like the shape, size, and weight more. I would say the clicks (primary) are better. But the side clicks and sensor (by a mild amount) are better on the Deathadder. Also, Deathadder is optical switches over mechanical if that matters to you. So my pick would be the Aerox 3 Wireless. I'd love to hear which one you went for and your thoughts on it.

[@visit2000]

@@ThomasMuehler thank you so much

[@MrStarz-jh7wl]

this or orochi v2 or deathadder v2 x?

[@ThomasMuehler]

Honestly, that's a hard call. I can confirm that the Orochi V2 and Deathadder V2 Pro are both excellent mice. As I've tried them. I actually have the Orochi V2 review dropping tomorrow (9 am). With that said the Deathadder V2 X could be fantastic as well if it is similar enough to the Orochi V2. As the mechanical switches are really nice and consistent on the Orochi. The Deathadder V2 Pro has better specs but I'm not sure if it would be worth the extra money at retail cost. But the Deathadder V2 Pro is $69.99 at Best Buy right now. Which is an incredible price. And is probably my recommendation (as looking at two Deathadders makes me think that is more your jam). I think it comes down to your hand size and grip. As the Orochi V2 and Deathadder are dramatically different shapes. The Orochi is a small mouse best for fingertip/claw. The Deathadder is a extra large mouse best for palm. Orochi (depending on battery) weighs a lot less. I'd love to hear which one you go with and your thoughts on it (good or bad).

[@MrStarz-jh7wl]

@@ThomasMuehler HOLY this is a detailed information. Thank you so much

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@MrStarz-jh7wl Happy to help. Let me know if you have any other questions!

[@crazyeyecarl]

This was the first wireless mouse I tried. After the first charge I unplugged it, and it never worked right again.

[@ThomasMuehler]

Did you plug in the wireless dongle and USB receiver that came with the mouse to the charging cable that was plugged into your mouse?

[@vegangainer1305]

Glorious D- is up there also.

[@ThomasMuehler]

I was not a fan of it. I'd be interested to see if they improved the Model D Wireless with the updated specs of the Model O - Wireless. As I found that mouse to be excellent.

[@angelomiguelramirez8214]

The smiley face mouse skates 👀

[@ThomasMuehler]

It's next level. lol

[@angelomiguelramirez8214]

What mouse could you recommend for me? I play fps games (valorant/csgo) and have 18x10 hands relaxed claw grip

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@angelomiguelramirez8214 Mice really come down to personal preference. So, I would recommend getting together your check boxes (weight, shape, size, clicks, buttons, etc.) and then watch reviews and see which checks the most of the boxes. My recommendation for you since you do a lot of FPS games and have a relaxed claw grip with medium sized hand would be either the G Pro X Superlight or the Viper Ultimate (or Viper 8K if you want to save some money, get 8,000 Hz polling, and wired). As those are two of the best FPS mice that mostly mainly support medium size hands with claw grip and are lightweight with other good specs. This particular mouse also wouldn't be bad but is really mostly made for palm grip.

[@angelomiguelramirez8214]

@@ThomasMuehler thank you so much for this!

[@pointmanschlappey7686]

I like pancakes too 🥞👍🏻

[@ThomasMuehler]

Mmm Pancakes.

[@enkvlogs]

Pancakes. 🥞

[@ThomasMuehler]

Oh heck yeah dude! I appreciate the support. Now pancakes sound bomb.

[@halldor8878]

Hello 👋

[@ThomasMuehler]

What's up my dude?! I appreciate the support.

[@loy5800]

You haven't uploaded for a month, kinda worried lol

[@ThomasMuehler]

Yeah, I know. I'm so sorry. I've been super busy. But I have been testing products and have a bunch of them in the pipeline. I'm not going anywhere.

[@loy5800]

@@ThomasMuehler alright that is good to hear man! have a good one!

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@loy5800 Thanks man you too! Appreciate the call out. I'll try and do better.

[@spidyspiderman_nfts6653]

I wove u

[@ThomasMuehler]

*Bro fist, chest bump, secret handshake.

[@spidyspiderman_nfts6653]

@Sir Galahad LOL love to see it

[@captainaxlerod1297]

PANCAKES

[@ThomasMuehler]

Oh heck yeah! Pancakes are delicious. Appreciate the support!

[@captainaxlerod1297]

@@ThomasMuehler 😋 how's the mouse going? Just ordered it, gonna be replacing my looong line of EC1/EC2 A's... They keep breaking after a year of heavy use

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@captainaxlerod1297 I still like it a lot and it's going strong without any issues. I do switch mice a lot though just due to having a lot of them. But I still think when it comes to a top of the line palm grip mouse this one is the best or at least fighting for top spot. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it once you get it in.

[@rodrigofernety]

thought you already reviewed this

[@ThomasMuehler]

Nope, I've done a bunch of other Razer mice reviews and they are all super similar so it may seem that way.

[@spidyspiderman_nfts6653]

2nd daddy

[@ThomasMuehler]

I appreciate the support my dude!