Remove a Generator Head & can Engine be used in Go Karts?

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sixtyfiveford

sixtyfiveford

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@waltoncraghead7422
@waltoncraghead7422 2 жыл бұрын
*100% best **Generater.Systems** I have used. A test for hurricane prep here in Louisiana: three AC units, 5000, 5000 & 8000, 3 fridges, 2 device power setups, 4 flat screens....AND I had 40% of the power meter to spare.*
@kwacz
@kwacz 2 жыл бұрын
if you check the parts manual for the engine itself (not the generator) you will find that this engine has 3 part numbers for the crankshaft. They just put the crankshaft in based on what it is used for. They are keyed shaft, taper shaft or gear shaft. They are a little pricey though, and you will then have to change your gaskets after opening the engine. Not sure if its worth it or not. I guess it depends on the shape the engine is in.
@MC-hs4mf
@MC-hs4mf 3 ай бұрын
Does predator harbor freight engines have tapered shaft? My tecumseh was only 10 hp Harbor freight has 8hp or 13 with electric start.
@kwacz
@kwacz 3 ай бұрын
@@MC-hs4mf I would never buy an engine from harbor freight. They won't last nearly as long as the name brand and it personally I think they're garbage
@MC-hs4mf
@MC-hs4mf 3 ай бұрын
@@kwacz Briggs these days have bad reps, Tecumseh is no longer made. The shops wouldn’t even attempt to disassemble this generator.
@MC-hs4mf
@MC-hs4mf 3 ай бұрын
@@kwacz how do I buy a “new” Tecumseh HM100?
@kwacz
@kwacz 3 ай бұрын
@@MC-hs4mf northern tool has them. Youd have to make sure that it has the tapered shaft if that's what you need. Any small engine repair shop should be able to get you what you need to replace that engine.
@woodaddict1
@woodaddict1 7 жыл бұрын
It can be done. While the motor is running, I used a grinder then a file and ground the shaft to fit a hydraulic pump and used it for a log splitter just a few years ago.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
I figured someone had to had tried it out. Nice work.
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 7 жыл бұрын
sixtyfiveford Gen guy here. What ya did works fine. Briggs makes a kit so I can do the home standby ones in the field. But on these little peashooters you have another option. Support that rotor slightly from underneath with a jack and a block of wood (plywood transmits the force nicely) Then take another plywood scrap and put it on top of the rotor. Whack that sucker with a good sized hand sledge hammer and as ya hit it, sorta put a spin or drag across on the hammer. This will work if you are careful and need to reuse it, but the strike will kill the magnetism for sure. No biggie to fix that though. but if it's going to scrap you don't need to be so careful, just support it good.
@richardnielson3761
@richardnielson3761 6 жыл бұрын
That's what I did with a 8hp generac motor just ran it with a drill press and shaped it to my size that needed for the clutch assembly. Worked flawlessly.
@Y2daT420
@Y2daT420 4 жыл бұрын
What I call the poor man's lathe. Using drill with grinder and files .. ect . Using different type disc and feathering disc. It can work fairly accurately. .
@robconcep644
@robconcep644 5 жыл бұрын
To remove the rotor, gently tap it with a rubber mallet. You may need to rotate it a few times while you tap it. There is no need to extract it with a bolt.
@LEMON-LEMON33
@LEMON-LEMON33 3 ай бұрын
this is true
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 7 жыл бұрын
I've never had a reason to pull a generator off an engine but now I know how to do it. Your a very talented individual!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Man.
@russellstephan6844
@russellstephan6844 10 ай бұрын
Most appreciative! I recently picked up a nearly new and pristine Westinghouse 9500 watt for $150. The gamble? According to the previous owner, the engine was locked up and it had sat for two years. The thing had no dust on it. I figured I'd take a flier of a chance at the price and pray for a hydrolock issue. Sadly, the cylinder is fine. It must be the rod/crank in a very strong embrace. I'm guessing it was a power out purchase and someone started it without adding oil. I've got everything off the chassis except the engine and gen head. I ordered a flywheel puller of eBay. For $20, it's not worth the effort to build my own in the shop. I still need to get a M12x1.75 bolt and come up with a shaft to push the rotor off. Once inside, I'll know for sure what the damage entails
@justin15097
@justin15097 7 жыл бұрын
You're videos are so helpful. I picked up a used generator last year. Motor is locked up and really haven't had time to take apart. Really haven't decided if I want to rebuild old motor or change motors and wasn't sure how to take the generator head off till now. Keep the vids going. Helped out with my snow blower carb and points. Still didn't it tuned right but it did run.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
I generally pick up these with good motors and bad generator heads for free to $50. So it is generally less work for me to put a different engine on, than dive into the original engine.
@Fireship1
@Fireship1 7 жыл бұрын
That was a nice sized generator. Too bad the generator head died. Great tips for repurposing the engine.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 2 жыл бұрын
Those tips work just fine. No need to machine it any better, just make sure engine is hard mounted so it wont vibrate, remove bulk with poverty lathe/grinder, put long bolt on the side so you have hand rest and fine tune with file. Measure the diameter often and spray some water into axle every now and then to keep it cool so crank seal wont get damaged. That should be plenty good quality for go cart or other pulley driven system. For variator with larger diameter there might be some vibrations, but probably nothing major if its done accurately enough and with patience so it wont become uneven or oval. If you want bigger and wider axle, yes use the peace from the core, cutting extra off and pulling it into place with bolt, when its grinded to size make couple holes and with wet rag on the saft to keep it and seals cool, couple quick welds to secure it into place just to be sure. Alternatively new bolt should work too if welding is not a option.
@dandolan3168
@dandolan3168 10 ай бұрын
Start it up and go to town measure a million times
@OldCarAlley
@OldCarAlley 6 жыл бұрын
You can buy a clutch that has a #41 sprocket, with the amount of teeth you want, or a 4L V-belt pulley, that fits the taper shaft. I "think" it is made by Max Torque. The around the $50 to $80 mark. I have bought them in the past, to use on generator engines, that I put on mini bikes. You can find them on eBay too.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've seen the adapters. I think they're a little on the pricey side for what they are.
@andrewhill8289
@andrewhill8289 6 жыл бұрын
Not bad, you can also just put the shaft bolt in, do it up and leave a gap of 1-2mm between the bolt head and the rotor bearing, then gave the bolt a couple of taps with a ballpein (Engineers) hammer. The taper fit generally just pops off
@MC-hs4mf
@MC-hs4mf 3 ай бұрын
My Coleman Devilbiss powerback generator was different . The 4 long bolts only had nuts on one side and threads of not to other side. It may have messed up threads by using a tool to grip threads on the end closest to me that held nuts. And when I put a rod inside and screwed in a boot after creating threads the bolt broke so I had nothing to lose and tapped with a sledge and immediately fell off shaft. I had already tried a rubber mallet. Now I have to go from opposite end and drill an extractor also broke in bolt.
@denseleit
@denseleit 10 ай бұрын
Is that by chance a 1:10 taper shaft?
@gene2200
@gene2200 2 жыл бұрын
Saw a guy tread the end then fill with water, Teflon tape bolt and it popped right off. If you have to keep it horizontal pump it full off grease if a rod isn't handy and tighten up bolt, similar to how I pop out the input shaft bearing on manual transmissions
@bryanrosales1864
@bryanrosales1864 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone in the Austin, tx area? The company I work at is selling all their old 6.5hp motors and non working generators on CL for cheap. I bought a 6.5 hp engine for $10 and got a second one free. Most are missing the carbs and air filters. I do a lot of work on the newer equipment but have had to do repairs on the old generators, pressure washers and air compressors. Only the gen motors have that tapered shaft and the rest are keyed shafts. Check to see if the ad is still up on CL
@leek7412
@leek7412 7 жыл бұрын
Alot of times when the generator isn`t putting out you can take a hand grinder and spin it plugged in to add energy to the feild windings and get it back working.Which you may already know.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. This one was a crispy critter.
@glenharvey7195
@glenharvey7195 Жыл бұрын
I thank you for breaking it down and being descriptive it's much appreciated bud!!!!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын
You bet!
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 7 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Bud!! I think you might have just thrown down the gauntlet for Roadking and the Crew!! We come across them engines all the time!! Now we gotta get one and make a functional crude shaft eh!!☺
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Heck Yeah.
@greasysteve5671
@greasysteve5671 7 жыл бұрын
805ROADKING hey roadking, big fan!
@805ROADKING
@805ROADKING 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!!☺
@archaicengineer6155
@archaicengineer6155 7 жыл бұрын
Could you thread a short bolt into the original tapered shaft tight enough to hold a pulley centered and then run a weld around it to make it solid?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Sound like it would work.
@jackwatkins7382
@jackwatkins7382 4 жыл бұрын
I don't guess you happen to know if that's the same tapered shaft on a 32/4000 Watt generator? My brother wants me to help him put a motor on his Predator generator and I didn't know how those things coupled. I mean everything I'd ever coupled together was on a lot larger horsepower electrical motors.
@doublewide6
@doublewide6 7 жыл бұрын
You can get the aftermarket 11HP crankshaft for under $75 and then sell the tapered one the tapered ones are more expensive. That is probably the easiest way to do it from what I can see.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
That's a good point. I don't think anyone would buy a used tapered one. Seams there are ten fold more generators with dead electrical heads vs engines.
@2ndamendment770
@2ndamendment770 3 жыл бұрын
One thing thats not mentioned is that the output shaft from the Old gas Motor has to have either the Bearing & Housing off the old gas Motor "OR" a Block Bearing so that the Generator Armature can stay exactly inline > I have used the whole crankshaft with the Gas motor housing to insure the Generator Stays perfectly straight as it was when still attached to the Old Gas Motor . Thanks for the Video !!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
@2LateIWon
@2LateIWon 7 жыл бұрын
i like the grinding it with the motor running. and cut/file your own key way
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
I picked up another motor the other day that I'm going to do just that to it.
@matthewwinger6278
@matthewwinger6278 4 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that LOL easy peasy
@nathanhale7444
@nathanhale7444 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel by the way. You've got so much good information and interesting tool and project ideas. My harbor freight tire changer is so much easier to use with my copy of your tire changing bar.
@Micscience
@Micscience 6 жыл бұрын
It can definatley be done especially if you have a lathe which I do. I may just turn down the shaft or I may machine an adapter which seems easier however I have to remove the govenor and I don't remember how much I need to dissemble but it depends on how much work to remove the crankshaft. Mine is a 3/4 tapered to 5/8 I can turn a 1 inch sleeve and press fit it on with a 1/4 inch of material removaed so after it is pressed in I can tig weld the original shaft onto the sleeve and the other half of the part would be solid with a keyway and a tapped hole. Well thats the theory it doesn't seem so hard.
@mindovermatter3988
@mindovermatter3988 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it would be as crude as you might say if you took times patience and use proper tooling. I'm in the same dilemma I'm glad your video explains how to get this rotor off, I was going to use the 10 horsepower Subaru engine for a mini bike
@spanermantim
@spanermantim 7 жыл бұрын
I have a Honda engine running a compressor. I ground the shaft with a grinder with it running it is crude but works.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. I knew someone had to have done it.
@spanermantim
@spanermantim 7 жыл бұрын
Yes several years ago because the electric motor on the compressor was junk and the generator was junk too.
@retrorestore
@retrorestore 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't know how those generators coupled up so thanks for that. Handy to know.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@nathanhale7444
@nathanhale7444 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to figure out if I can use a Gen head off another generator on my diesel generator motor? I've got a couple candidates that have bad motors but their gas and so I'm wondering not only if they'd fit but if theyre built differently than the one on the diesel engine since it seems to have lower rpm
@Y2daT420
@Y2daT420 4 жыл бұрын
The cvt clutch from a golf cart or gator engine also uses a tapered shaft. Not sure about the taper lengths for a easy fit.. another consideration. Is tractor supply outlets have all kinds of shaft adapters , sprockets, pulleys. Ect. So even if the shaft needs to be larger than a go karts 3/4" u can Adapt to a farm sprocket. Then use a piece of 3'4" keyed shaft with a pair of bearings and mounts. To make a jack shaft with another sprocket to work with the motor on One end and kart clutch on the other.. ..
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 4 жыл бұрын
Those tapered shafts on golf carts etc are a completely different taper. Generators have a unique taper style though you can buy adapters, They will run your $75-100+ which generally defeat the purpose of using a second hand engine.
@Counselor77
@Counselor77 6 жыл бұрын
Great information! I have 2 generators with bad engines and I got to get at least one of them working and that is a big help for separating the engine from the generator head.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad it was helpful.
@1970chevelle396
@1970chevelle396 7 жыл бұрын
Way back when I was a teenager I worked at a Lawn and Garden Equipment shop. I worked on those Generators all the time for Home Depot.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Generators are a finicky thing.
@lyles637
@lyles637 7 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if it would be practical to get a pulley machined inside to with that tapered shaft. The tapered shaft is an excellent connection.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
If I had a lathe that would probably be my first option. However, spending a little more time to do the engine shaft gives you more versatility in applications and changing pulley sizes.
@zombieresponder
@zombieresponder 7 жыл бұрын
As a machinist, no. I wouldn't waste my time cutting that pulley for myself. I've lost count of the number of straight shaft engines I've bought for just a couple bucks and put back into running condition in an hour or less...often without spending any more money. Lots of stupid people in the world throwing out perfectly good engine powered equipment because it won't start or doesn't run right....or it just isn't new and shiny anymore. I have no idea why people keep trying to reinvent the wheel. By the time you get through paying a machine shop, you could have bought an engine...or at least a new crankshaft. Doing it the halfassed way with a handheld grinder/file/whatever ends up with halfassed results, and you will never have a standard crankshaft. In addition, if the engine is used to direct drive a pump(hydraulic or pressure washer) you will very likely beat the keyway out of the shaft and pump bore due to a piss poor fit between the two. This will also ruin the pump.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid Moe ! I use those engines all the time , I like to use the gen rotor taper as a start and go from there on the build I am doing .. Thumbs up man !!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
They're great engines that are generally pretty cheap to pick up.
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the center of a motorcycle magneto flywheel would fit that taper. They are often rivited on and perhaps could be fitted to a plain pulley.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea.
@dj5752
@dj5752 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks. I have a Generac gn220cc 4000xl portable Generator. I removed the gen from the motor the same way that you did. I noticed the shaft has a keyway slot in it but I never saw a key and when looking down the gen head I don't see where it would have a need for a key. Do you know if I need a key for the shaft that the gen head goes into when I put the gen head? back onto that shaft. Thanks John.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a generator require a key. They rely solely on taper compression to lock the rotor to the shaft and ensure it's perfectly centered.
@dj5752
@dj5752 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very much appreciated. Keep the videos coming.
@Iatolaazzahola
@Iatolaazzahola 3 жыл бұрын
Good video that gets right to the point, no bullsh^tting around like 90% on here do! sixtyfiveford! Right on bud! BTW, when I tapped my rotor for the puller bolt, it was a 7/16-14 NC thread. I'm sure most of these rotors that aren't tapped are probably the same ID. Carry on!
@cubbeezx
@cubbeezx 7 жыл бұрын
Great info! Would that have the same taper as a snowmobile clutch?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I've torn apart a snowmobile engine, but I believe its shaft is larger.
@chrisn7632
@chrisn7632 17 күн бұрын
Crankshaft seal is leaking slightly on good working Generac 7550 EXL. Now I know what I’m up against to get the seal. 14hp Generac engine model #01470
@kengamble8595
@kengamble8595 7 жыл бұрын
Now that was very helpful ! I've worked on generators before but not to that point, so I think this information will be handy. Thanks for sharing and take care.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
It's never good when you need to go this deep. Thanks.
@2jeffs1
@2jeffs1 7 жыл бұрын
Made a bushing for the Cushman motor, od was 1 1/4. Like you said not practical for a go kart app tho. Always neat to see what you are getting into, being able to re-use things instead of discarding, a great $$ saver!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@robertbowen6610
@robertbowen6610 4 жыл бұрын
They have a conversion for them now with a final shaft size of 3/4 inch just for this application
@aleblanc3547
@aleblanc3547 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Moe. I'd heard these engines were hard to convert from a tapered output, but I bet using a grinder while the engine is running might just get it close enough for government work.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Very True.
@burthabard8316
@burthabard8316 7 жыл бұрын
A LeBlanc then finish it of with a rotery sander as it runs then fine emery wet and dry i did this to mount a cog to run a chain on a old garden dumper cart that had a bsa 175 bantam 2 stroke in it set in a 2 gear box f / r i lost rev but its working 4 years on .
@brandonrayner5253
@brandonrayner5253 4 жыл бұрын
So here’s a question, I just received an electric start diesel generator with a bad motor and I have been trying to figure out if I can simply replace the motor with any other motor or does it have to be a specific kind of motor?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 4 жыл бұрын
It will need to be anther taper shaft motor from a generator.
@JFW1
@JFW1 2 жыл бұрын
Could you add a pulley at the end of one? To use other accessories?
@JFW1
@JFW1 2 жыл бұрын
Not removing generator
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly yes. However generally there is very little shaft to attach a pulley to.
@JFW1
@JFW1 2 жыл бұрын
@@sixtyfiveford I wanted to add a pulley for an air compressor on an old generator I have. Might take some machining. Might be better to just use an alternator as a power supply. It would be easier to achieve both.
@zoltan9760
@zoltan9760 7 жыл бұрын
I havr a wood chipper i havent taking the engine off yet and a push mower (flat head) with a vertical shaft, i know u can make a generator with the lawnmower, but can i incorporate the wood chipper motor or somethong to build me a go kart? Looking for ideas please help
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
The wood chipper will have an ideal motor for a go kart.
@zoltan9760
@zoltan9760 7 жыл бұрын
sixtyfiveford wont need to do all that extra shaft stuff? Is it horizontal already?
@johnsmith-sw7ii
@johnsmith-sw7ii 7 жыл бұрын
Could you secure the engine....set it up like its a lathe with a tool rest and turn down the shaft???
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
I don't see why this wouldn't work.
@gergemall
@gergemall 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, excellent job. Can you switch out a Harbor freight Predator engine or other comparable engine to fit the shaft without too many headaches ?? Machine shop okay....
@selador11
@selador11 7 жыл бұрын
Here I was, about to ask if you could just tear the rotor apart and make your own adapter... And you went and said it. Great minds!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Heck Yeah. I've never seen it done, but I don't see why it couldn't.
@rodneygrover9414
@rodneygrover9414 6 жыл бұрын
How's it going convert mine generator motor using a torque converter clutch and aluminum pipe I picked up from the hardware store at about a 1in OD and .8in ID then tell me a couple washers and a bolt short enough to go in there tighten the hell out of it and it work fine for me so like he says a new video there's options
@projectgrizzly6091
@projectgrizzly6091 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys i need some help. I have a engine that came off of a briggs and Stratton generator and i want to use the engine on a go-kart. I have it mounted on the kart but when i start the engine it runs at high RPM. how do i make it idle?
@gregmccarter2176
@gregmccarter2176 Жыл бұрын
I use a pry bar on the bottom and then use air hammer to pop them off...been doing it that way for 40 years...however I like this method.
@jacobbowen7365
@jacobbowen7365 6 жыл бұрын
I can't seem to get the cover part off. I've taken out ever bolt I can find but it still won't come loose. Any idea what I can do?
@waltschannel7465
@waltschannel7465 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative!! What goes bad on the generator head that creates this type of opportunity?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
The windings short out due to overloading the generator.
@sawomirk4273
@sawomirk4273 4 жыл бұрын
What if i don't have internal bolt ? Do you have some experience in that case ?
@nateross14
@nateross14 4 жыл бұрын
You didn't cover the electrical side of things....how are you going to get spark without a stator since the huge generator stator is now removed?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 4 жыл бұрын
The generator head has nothing to do with engine spark/ignition system.
@nateross14
@nateross14 4 жыл бұрын
@@sixtyfiveford Gotcha, thats awesome! I have a 19hp B&S 570cc twin that I just pulled off a generator a few minutes ago after watching your vid, and you're right it runs and is self contained. I was worried I was going to have to buy a separate stator and cdi,so this is good news. I'm building a snow bike with it with a snowmobile CVT. Thanks for the vid!
@deadcrow6888
@deadcrow6888 3 жыл бұрын
i got a free generator with a sweet running 7hp subaru robin engine. i got on ebay and found a straight 3/4 shaft for the same engine, 25 bucks delivered. not saying that there is straight crank shafts for all genertator engines but its atleast worth the look if you got one for cheep
@shawnchaffee1809
@shawnchaffee1809 3 жыл бұрын
How do you wire the generator run after disconnecting from the stator?
@Goomer
@Goomer 7 жыл бұрын
Is it the same for pressure washers?
@izdeliye-88
@izdeliye-88 7 жыл бұрын
yes
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Every pressure washer I've torn apart has a standard 3/4" straight shaft with a key. They make great engines for Go Karts, Tillers, etc.
@tommy23490
@tommy23490 7 жыл бұрын
No pressure washers are not tapered..
@steve5912
@steve5912 7 жыл бұрын
Goomer Nope all the pressure washers ive worked with Do NOT have tapered shafts in fact i have a gx160 and a gc160 that were pressure washers sitting in my garage that run great and do NOT have tapered shafts
@Mongoosejuice01
@Mongoosejuice01 2 жыл бұрын
So can this be converted into a pressure washer as well?
@RWSBrowning
@RWSBrowning 7 жыл бұрын
How about casting an adapter with babbitt material?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
I would think it would be too soft.
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 7 жыл бұрын
Just use a grinding wheel on an electric drill and grind it down with the engine running... then use a cutoff wheel to cut a keyway in (engine not running)
@qzumacademy9974
@qzumacademy9974 6 жыл бұрын
Hey how can you use the generator with a battery and DC motor? Can you repair the generator and connect a DC motor to make it electric generator instead of gas engine?
@mattmcmillan8920
@mattmcmillan8920 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and glad I came over, just got done watching a video of Zippos and he asked people to stop by and check out your channel and I did and subscribed great Channel.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt. -Moe.
@jimandbrycefrazier7044
@jimandbrycefrazier7044 2 ай бұрын
If you start the engine you can grind the taper shaft down with an angle grinder w/the engine running!
@TheJanticJournal
@TheJanticJournal 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I feel dumb now but when I got the notification I thought you were talking about a cylinder head lol.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Now that you say that, it's all I read in the title.
@shawnsavage9015
@shawnsavage9015 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Are all generator engines crankshaft odd size?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they all have tapered shafts to help center and hold the generator head.
@MC-hs4mf
@MC-hs4mf 3 ай бұрын
My engine slung a rod and I want to replace engine. How to get engine and gen head to reattach?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 3 ай бұрын
@@MC-hs4mf Just tighten the small long bolt down. Doesn't take much. Probably only 30-40 foot pounds. The taper on the shaft locks in super easily.
@dominicgarcia85
@dominicgarcia85 10 ай бұрын
I’ve fabricated something I call a clutch more of a brake but I utilized the threaded tapered shaft cut out part of a gear for chain sprocket for bike basically wasn’t perfect but it spun chain nice wich spun the “rotor” and the “clutch” only engages like a brake so it wasn’t easy to drive or wasn’t easy to get used to and wasn’t very efficient however we had fun breaking it and the clutch setup actually lasted longer than the brake pads it blew through them fairly fast once you had brake locked up you could redline engine and get moving wasn’t great on take off as far as fast or putting power down but over engineered backyard go kart using that generator was fun for me to make however I broke it a lot faster than it took to make i fabbed the whole thing wich was the downfall lol my steering aparatus was obviously not great that was first to go and only had front brakes and a metal tire brake in back since it was impossible to put on the wheel or shaft
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 7 жыл бұрын
Pure genius, thumbs up Moe
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Man.
@iiufair
@iiufair Жыл бұрын
If you want to make a go kart with that weld a gear and connect it with a chain, it's a good option.
@phiphatpongpimboon4941
@phiphatpongpimboon4941 2 жыл бұрын
คุณให้เห็นเพลาข้อเหวี่ยง และ เเกนของโรเตอร์ซึ่งคนอื่นๆไม่เคยให้ดูเลยผมเข้าใจเลยว่ามันเป็นแบบนี้ ขอบคุณมาก
@dbayboyds409
@dbayboyds409 7 жыл бұрын
Such great lateral thinking. I love it
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@aaronwall3187
@aaronwall3187 3 жыл бұрын
What if we put a driveshaft straight on the shaft?
@oloyetaiwo874
@oloyetaiwo874 6 жыл бұрын
Would the alternator amature fit right back in?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can take it off and put it right back on.
@hdman97
@hdman97 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info,you must have pulled a few of these apart.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
It's never a good sign to have to got this deep, but it does happen more often than I would like.
@not2fast4u2c
@not2fast4u2c 7 жыл бұрын
My Idea would be to make a fixture to hold a lathe bit .....or a tool post grinder .and machine the shaft with the engine running
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing last night. There are always 4 bolt holes on the back of the motor that would support a fixture.
@Apex180
@Apex180 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, should be able to get the end part of the genny off now to replace one of the seals thats leaking :)
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@PaulTaylor-ko8jy
@PaulTaylor-ko8jy Жыл бұрын
The three wheeler or four wheeler and use the engine out of it for a generator very simple to do or farm tractor for a boat engine or generator cheap all you need is cheap fuel Willie Nelson gas
@gzdrum
@gzdrum 6 жыл бұрын
May I just weld a clutch there or a kind of sprocket?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 6 жыл бұрын
If you attempt to weld a clutch to the tapered shaft it will more than likely be crooked and wobble.
@BrucesShop
@BrucesShop 7 жыл бұрын
This is an old issue eh!!! (CAN) my friend. Thanks for bringing it forward.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate.
@Vothtrucks
@Vothtrucks 2 жыл бұрын
No..... Bolt the engine down , using a grinder start the engine and while it turns cut the shart to about 3/4 until close. Finer file and paper. I know it works.... did it twice.... easily done.
@robertravena
@robertravena Жыл бұрын
Or If you know someone with a lathe, they can turn an adapter that sleeves on there and use the original bolt to keep it on.
@rushbayou5230
@rushbayou5230 3 жыл бұрын
uggg. i need the opposite.. ist the motor thats dead. i need an adapter for the power head side.
@ChingChang148
@ChingChang148 7 жыл бұрын
Why not just take the engine to a machine shop and have them machine an adapter w/a taper id and a straight od?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
You could, but it would set you back over 100 bucks. It would be cheaper to pull the crankshaft and have it machined down for 50-75 bucks.
@doorguner01
@doorguner01 7 жыл бұрын
where the windings burnt? if not ether the avr or brushes where bad and some times they need to be flashed by using a drill and make a crank handle and chuck it in and crank it and lot of time it will bring it back to life!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, the windings were char.
@doorguner01
@doorguner01 7 жыл бұрын
sixtyfiveford "Crispy motor!
@andrewgreen2626
@andrewgreen2626 4 жыл бұрын
What about the electric motor? Can we use that in an EV Go Kart?
@audiefied
@audiefied 7 жыл бұрын
My Simplicity Baron is driven off the flywheel side, I picked up a 18 hp Robyn Subaru with tapered shaft for cheap and set it up to run off the flywheel. 14 years and still running strong! Why not make a plate to bolt on the flywheel side with the appropriate shaft welded to it.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
Only more robust engines were designed to have a flywheel PTO. Most of these generators have aluminum/plastic cooling fan flywheels that'll never handle a flywheel PTO. My Simplicity also runs a flywheel PTO.
@Knowledgesac27
@Knowledgesac27 Жыл бұрын
Could I use a tie rod fork to get it off
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford Жыл бұрын
I find a pickle fork tends to do more damage than good but I have removed them before with one.
@davidgagnon2849
@davidgagnon2849 3 жыл бұрын
@sixtyfiveford Do you still have this engine? I have a similar Generac generator, which has a B&S Generac engine on it and I cannot for the life of me find the B&S engine numbers. I have a STICKER on the engine just like yours does, but that is NOT a B&S model number. And I cannot find the model type and code in the usual places. I'm hoping you see this and can tell me how you found the model and type to buy parts for it. Thanks in advance!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 3 жыл бұрын
The engine in the video is a Generac / Honda clone. Generac has been doing this for decades now along with pretty much every other manufacturer.
@jjb0894
@jjb0894 6 ай бұрын
I hate wasting stuff that still works. I’m not an environmentalist, but I don’t think we should be throwing away things that can still be used, so I love it when things can be repurposed and used as long as possible.
@IronMan-ml5yi
@IronMan-ml5yi 7 жыл бұрын
I've used a dead blow hammer and hit it side to side and it will come off after the center bolt is removed.
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
It gets it done on a lot but not when they're this tight. I would have bent the crankshaft or damaged the rear bearing with this one.
@nathanstoltzfus4593
@nathanstoltzfus4593 3 жыл бұрын
Would welding a pulley to the shaft work to?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@clydecoffey8815
@clydecoffey8815 7 жыл бұрын
bearing do go bad and there would be an oblong shaft a machine shop can make an adapter to fit and i liked your video just make the frame and idle pulley a little different
@pcguysoffgridcabin
@pcguysoffgridcabin 6 жыл бұрын
does any other company use this kind of engine?
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 6 жыл бұрын
Virtually all generators of all brands use this style of taper shaft engine.
@SteveRobReviews
@SteveRobReviews 7 жыл бұрын
I have the 14 hp generac genset 7000watt , 15 years old and bullet proof. When it exploded off the shaft I thought for sure something was broke. LOL
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
I've been servicing this one for a neighbor for years. He's logged 5000-7000 hours on it since 1999+- so I think he got his money's worth. It's definitely been a great unit.
@allenmckinney9533
@allenmckinney9533 7 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't bother with a keyway. just grind a flat spot and use thread locker on any set screw.
@ShawnCFarm
@ShawnCFarm 7 жыл бұрын
Neat trick. I believe a ski do clutch will fit on that
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 7 жыл бұрын
I think it may be smaller, but it's been a while since I've torn down a snowmobile.
@wesleyweisel134
@wesleyweisel134 5 жыл бұрын
If there are no threads on the outer end of the armature, pry outward on the inside portion of armature and hit the pin inward with a hammer. We could not find a video for if it doesn't have threads!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 5 жыл бұрын
Good info.
@mastermind3565
@mastermind3565 5 жыл бұрын
What is the size of the shaft
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 5 жыл бұрын
It's tapered.
@clydecoffey8815
@clydecoffey8815 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for helping me in fnformation about removing the motor
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