🥊 Election Debate: ActionSA vs Rise Mzansi on Oppenheimers, immigration, coalitions, economy, jobs

In the second instalment of our SMWX Election Debate series, we are joined by representatives of Action SA and Rise Mzansi who debate around the theme; why South Africans should vote for their parties.
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In this debate, areas of focus include immigration policies, social justice & ideologies, service delivery, the economy & jobs, party funding and so much more!
💡 Special Guests - Action SA Ekhuruleni Leader: Siyanda Makhubo & Rise Mzansi National Leadership Collective member: Irfaan Mangera & Moderated by Mighti Jamie
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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:04:12 - Opening arguments
00:09:43 - Response Round One
00:16:37 - Response Round Two
00:23:05 - Open Round
00:57:45 - Closing arguments
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Director: Bongani Nkosi
Producer: Oratile Kekana
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Sound: Kgothatso Senne
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About me: Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh is an author, scholar and founder of the Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh Xperience (SMWX), a digital, youth-centred current affairs platform. He holds a DPhil in International Relations from the University of Oxford and is a Lecturer in International Relations at Wits.

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

Who won this debate? 🤔

[@selbybopape23]

They might as well work together, they are the same shem..

[@MDUization]

❤

[@KazieD]

ActionSA ❤

[@NinohBrown]

I think the question should be : " have Action SA/ Rise Mzansi convinced us ordinary to citizens to ditch our votes for ANC/DA/ EFF?" My answer would be NO! They are still political apprentices, with a lot to learn. These two guys would get eaten up in a debate with an ANC or EFF counterpart, not a fault of their own but through the parties they represent and their policies. I don't get what Action SA and Rise Mzansi will bring that will shift the needle of Inequality and Poverty.

[@treasurem2491]

ActionSA!

[@rtlesupi]

ActionSA is a capitalist patriotic party- South Africa needs them. RiseMzansi is clearly still learning about what South Africans need- they need to do more research.

[@buyaza8918]

Absolutely 🎯

[@treasurem2491]

I agree 100%

[@intrepidrockstar]

ActionSA is exceptional in this debate, cool, collected, well informed and unapologetic about its values ✅

[@baraksiera2879]

ActionSA. Our Ekurhuleni Caucus leader represented us well. South Africans first. Its non negotiable we are unapologetic on this stance. Well articulated. What a leader

[@refiloemudzomakhuvha355]

Life beyond ANC looks very bright.

[@giannamokoka8212]

Life beyond ANC will be green and fertile

[@lwanda_bini]

ActionSA ✍️✍️🤞🤞

[@sazimkhwanazi]

ACTIONSA 🏆

[@KazieD]

ActionSA 😍😍😍😍💚💚💚💚 we are led sana

[@TshedzaMadula-wl5ne]

I hope action sa does well in the election

[@buyaza8918]

​@TshedzaMadula-wl5ne THAT IS MY PRAYER 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@mbusosiera1648]

Was the rise guy being whatsaaped answers

[@treasurem2491]

Listen🎉🎉🎉

[@sasha8664]

These two individuals are already 3× smarter and capable from what I can judge than our old madala cadres in parliament.I see this time period is the darkness before the dawn .😊

[@lovethyneighborx3]

I had never heard much about the ActionSA party, so this video was incredibly helpful. Well spoken representative with a clear vision for the future. I am sold! 🇿🇦🙏🏽

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Action SA for President in South Africa a great leader with a fresh and clean mindset to build South Africa ❤❤❤❤❤

[@siyathandwagomo6138]

Siyanda is very well spoken and represented Action SA very well. Enjoyed this debate - hoping to see more parties join or even panel discussions with 4 parties would be interesting.

[@TheBuhlebezwe]

Thank you 😊✊🏽💚🇿🇦

[@benedictseptember2761]

Proud of both gentlemen. They are quality humans. That is leadership

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Herman Mashaba is a business man with due respect he will only allow those in need to do farming for thier living and just a few unemployed can work accordingly, Vote Action SA for a better change in living condition Dr Herman Mashaba has no mercy for criminals that's very good and closing boarder's

[@thatoqebengu6373]

that is funny, He left the DA and called it names, now wants to partner with them but also if his such as good business man why is he in politics ? why is he not running those business and create employment he claims he will create through a political party ? I think you should apply your mind first before asking others to vote Action SA that is funded by those who have created the system of black poverty as it is ...

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

@thatoqebengu6373 we really need a mediators to monitor and interview parties that on the wining list I cannot urgue with you it could be the reason Can you please inform me who is the winning party I will not vote 🙏👍❓️❓️❓️❓️❓️❓️❓️

[@omnihein9322]

No mercy for criminals isn't an effective way of governance. Take America(prison system you're mentioning) vs Norway (rehabilitation prison system) which one is more effective? The Norwegian one, by far. (Norway's prison system has a 80% effectiveness, America has a 25% effectiveness.)

[@buyaza8918]

​​@@thatoqebengu6373bro!! It's not about bloody parties anymore but to save our country, you need a broad mind.

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

@omnihein9322 really don't know what to think anymore I think DA split and under different names they voting talking on media that's now the worsed crime before the others fid I hear correctly about coalitions so they split under different names

[@mmd1314]

ActionSA clearly won due to the speaker being more direct and having more tangible solutions.

[@JabsMajozi]

I love the calm tone and sobriety of the conversation. It is seasoned and allows us into the the "mind" of the political parties. I don't particulary appreciate the "fighting" and shouting tone of our politicians.

[@UhuruUhuru]

When the shouting starts the thinking stops.

[@MKL_D]

Mean and green machine. 💚

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

We deeply appreciate what Action SA will be offering from social grants to jobs Land distribution with small tender gor those cannot afford certain important equipment for farming for business purposes also schools and hospitals

[@hemphillmatyeka2487]

I enjoyed this episode. Both parties made compelling points. My national and provincial votes will most likely be split between them. Please consider having parties with differing views in the future as well.

[@mthokongwenya3331]

Dress Code - Action SA Body Language - Action SA Clarity of Ideas - Action SA Articulation of Manifesto - Action SA Tangibility of Solutions - Action SA Putting SA first - Should i even say it The Rise Mzansi guy doesn't seem like he knows what the party stands for. After this debate Rise seems like it's just there to distract Action SA potential voters. What solutions are they putting forward?

[@starknight1244]

I agree, he jump from topic to topic and he sound like he focus too much on playing the blame game rather then providing solutions and displaying the party plans, something tell me they don't have or he not awareness of them

[@treasurem2491]

ActionSA was so good. Im definitely going to vote for them.

[@olwethumhaga2033]

South Africa is ready and hungry for a new politics as the mess we are in was brought by the political establishment not just the ANC alone. #VoteRiseMzansi

[@mmd1314]

Your profile clearly shows that you work and run KZbin videos for Rise Mzansi, so of course you would say this. 😂😂😅

[@olwethumhaga2033]

@@mmd1314I made that video because I believe in what Rise Mzansi is doing. Although I’m a lawyer I took the time and effort (with the little spare time that I had) to inspire others towards this new and compelling vision.

[@YolieGM]

ActionSA was 100%. Cool, calm and collected guy.

[@user-fk4hz4bp1x]

Risemzansi new ideas New leadership. Great debate it was

[@pieterjordaan73]

Fresh ideas...new parties...all welcome...voters must pick n choose...

[@giannamokoka8212]

ActionSA 💚✊🏽 we are led

[@Lebesee]

We needed EFF and Action SA debate...listen how well Action SA is well represented. Everything is clear and makes sense.❤

[@ktheko]

Its so refreshing to see new faces in politics, and different perspectives from other parties, awesome hosting by Jamie....

[@mmd1314]

The problem with Rise Mzansi is that they sound like ANC without corruption. No real and firm policy postion that differentiate them from ANC other than they are new and young.

[@TheeSouthAfrikan]

Well if we're honest most of the ANC's policies are good, it's a pity they never bothered to implement most of them. I don't support ANC but I believe the country would be in a far better place had they stuck to their manifesto.

[@TshedzaMadula-wl5ne]

Nice debate. We need more debates to get more south africans to be involved. Thank you jamie for hosting. I love both parties messaging.

[@tshidiso9653]

love this debate, well done Jamie!! We should have more debates of this kind.

[@blacksands93]

The citizens of a nation must function as board members, with the country operating akin to a corporation and the president serving as its CEO. Currently, we are in the process of selecting the next CEO to lead the nation forward. Board members should base their selection not on popularity, appearance, or rhetoric, but rather on achievements, ability to inspire productivity, and a forward-looking personality. When casting your vote, consider this: Will the CEO you choose be able to maximize the potential of our nation? Action SA seems right to me thus far.

[@selbybopape23]

i agree with U. but these gentlemen, didn't display any energy of understanding the gravity of the war declared against the Board by the CEO and Staff..

[@JabsMajozi]

Absolutely love this observation.

[@selbybopape23]

The right way of campaigning is finslly happening this year. Thanx Jamie. now we need to facilitate these debates with the public in those communities, with the stakeholder in addition to such conversations. what my issue is with these 2 gentlemen, is that none of them seem to display any conviction in what they are saying and how they answer, it's like another high private school debate, sometimes \\\\\\u doubt if they even believe the rhetoric they talking, it's the party script for campaigning . it's ohkay, they are clear presenters for their parties. 10/10. effective in convincing a really desperate South African youth on the ground...Naaah. but well done to the 2 gentlemen.. they are gentle in a hungry, angry frustrated community.

[@dianeandrews6764]

Selby, if I'm looking for a surgeon to operate on my sick and suffering relative, I want someone who knows what to do and reassures me with a calm voice.

[@selbybopape23]

Fully Agree. Not Even the Pope will want to go between Palestine and Israel, He's too Calm withing the Noises of angry soldiers

[@nokuthulamsibi4107]

this is content worth watching 🔥

[@emperorkaygee9104]

Personally I would like to see a 3 way debate with EFF,DA and ANC

[@UhuruUhuru]

We need more debates!

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

Stay tuned! 😁

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

The rich is getting more rich the poorest of the poor suffering a heartfelt pain😢

[@pieterjordaan73]

The multi party charter to rescue and save South Africa and its citizens... Hope other parties with like minded ideas to join you...

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Trust Honesty, Truth is very important it takes you a longer journey....

[@NormanKgaphola]

Hi, it is very unfortunate for RISE to send someone who is not glue up about what is happening on the ground,how can one planning/IDP with estimated numbers fluctuating stat as is happening in our country,foreigners comes in and out as they wish so budget need correct stat and closed/well control borders is a way to go. RISE Mzansi go back to drawing board, so I personally support the ACTIONSA position to well controll borders

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

We need global economic development in South Africa 🇿🇦 yes RISE Mzanzi 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤you are brilliant articulated informative gentleman 👏 is very important however your party will 🏃‍♀️ to the polls 😀 👍 👏

[@Lungile_Adams]

Ever wonder why did the Oppenhimers only fund Action SA, Rise Mzansi and DA. For some reason, they don't support parties that talk about land or the needs of the majority. They are very specific...

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

Action SA has spoken about land. It's in the manifesto.

[@baraksiera2879]

Eff is funded by the illicit cirgarate smuggling ting leader Mazzoti who is actually charged with tax aviation and money laundering. So you can't scare us into voting for thrm using funding as a scare tactic. Zimbabweans will vote for them and their open border nonsense not us

[@theonly6359]

Exactly

[@phumzilensele302]

Rise mzansi support open borders policy .......its no no for many poor south african

[@im0bilizer]

A quick read on their manifesto regarding immigration clearly states the opposite. There is a strong emphasis on managing immigration effectively

[@KazieD]

@@im0bilizer They are against deportation of those already here illegally, their leader said that himself

[@im0bilizer]

@@KazieD disingenuous to call it an "open border policy" when it's clearly not the case. Your statement has nothing to do with what I responded to

[@KazieD]

@@im0bilizer it is exactly the same thing, if there are not consequences for illegal foreigners or immigration then you are as a good as a having an open border policy. 🙂

[@siphesihlembi8632]

Siyanda representing Rhodents kahle👌🏽

[@hlokomani]

Rise Mzansi needs to prove they can run a local government first. Lovely discussion though, guys vote for either one of these please!

[@giannamokoka8212]

ActionSA is more mature and practical. I'm voting for ActionSA

[@siyabongandaba8023]

Action SA won this debate ...

[@libumbelufundo6118]

The chap from Rise Mzantsi made some good points. Their policies are least likely to widen inequality. ActionSA is still oblivious to the dynamics of this country. It looks like they haven’t figured out why the ANC has been running the country for the past 30 years.

[@sifisomthokozisimofokeng3906]

The dude from Rise Mzansi said he lives in the South of Joburg, I'm sure he lives in Lenasia. You can ask any South African citizen who reside in areas around Lenz, they will tell you that low paying jobs like domestic work, handyman and other are reserved for Lesotho, Zimbos and other illegal immigrants. So one can't expect this guy to say anything about illegal immigration. Secondly, the moment a person enters a foreign country illegally, that person is breaking the law. I agree that the department home affairs shoulders blame but I can't agree with the idea that a person who is in this country illegally is innocent like Rise Mzansi suggest. I mean what is next, if someone steals my phone can i say the thief is innocent and be more angry at the police?

[@mtha4996]

Foreign nationals account for less than 10% in south africa. In the uk about 15%, the US 20% and Qatar close to 90%!!! And yet these countries are doing incredibly well. There is nothing like a job reserved for a foreigner wena The real deal to be worried about is a working economy. Don't scapegoat foreign national for the incompetence of ANC. An economy should work with or without immigrants... rise mzansi is on point on this issue. Fix the economy by bringing investment and better jobs than being gardener will be abundant and will be taken by us who won't need a work permit to find a job!!!

[@sifisomthokozisimofokeng3906]

@@mtha4996 1st of all the minister of home affairs has said, on record, that nobody knows the exact number of illegal immigrants in this country so I don't know where you got this less than 10% number that you are referring to. I mean when almost all SADEC and indeed most African countries are close to being failed state, add to that a couple of Asian countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh one can reasonable conclude that the number of illegal immigrants is way more than 6,2 million. 2ndly, no one is talking about foreign nationals in general, I don't have a problem with legal immigration. I'm not sure that you follow US news because if you did you would know that the issue of illegal immigration is a huge debate there, so much so that the governing party has realized how much important this issue is for ordinary Americans and will definitely be a deciding factor in the upcoming election they have decided to drop this open border policy.

[@mtha4996]

@@sifisomthokozisimofokeng3906 Fair point. However, I still stand by the point that an economy should be functional with or without foreigners and that it's not true that if they are to be chased out that will solve 70% of our problems. A whole chunk of disaster here is a direct mismanagement by the ANC government not economic refugees

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Spread the 🔥 Mzanzi 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦you are 200 % Correct

[@lucymacks2256]

Thank you👏

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Rise Mzanzi🎉🎉vote 🗳 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@kgomotsomfisa7038]

Vote EFF to he'll with Oppenheimer political parties.

[@buyaza8918]

Eff my foot

[@kgomotsomfisa7038]

@@buyaza8918 voetsek

[@theonly6359]

EFF has my vote 🗳️

[@eliudnkuna3930]

Mazzotti party

[@theonly6359]

@@eliudnkuna3930 apartheid(Oppenheimer) beneficiary owned parties(DA, Rise Mzansi, ActionSA).

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Rise Mzanzi ❤❤❤❤vote 🗳 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎤💯🏃‍♂️🇿🇦

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Lead Mzanzi. My 🗳 for you❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@philamahlangu3465]

I need to see this Wits study saying that "closing the boarders solves 70% of South Africa's problems" 😮

[@buyaza8918]

Google is your friend, why would you expect somebody to spoonfeed you?

[@philamahlangu3465]

@@buyaza8918 Says everyone who cites research that doesn't exit.

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

You speak with open minded you on the point👈

[@seitlhamophefo]

Action SA won as soon as he said "South Africa " first . Saying illegal immigrants is a scapegoat is just mental we have an actual problem in our country that isn't being solved or even addressed. As we stand as a country currently we need to fix our own issues before we can think about the rest of Africa. Right now we need to fix South Africa . We can't welcome people into our country and we ourselves can't eat that makes no sense

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Action SA we eith you we love your terminology and ideology well done❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉all the infrastructure well be sorted out a new part arise new face of South Africa ❤❤❤❤❤🌹🌹🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🌴🌴🌴🌳🌳🌾🌾🪺🪺☘️🍀we want to see you Thabo Mabaso you a brilliant young man keep it going 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

[@WILLIAMCHALAKA]

I AM VOTING MR 100 DAYS PA 4 ME

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

Just so we are all clear, "good governance" for this fill, means listening to business dictates even at the expense of the bottom line of the government.

[@sasha8664]

Kwere,dont cause havoc here.

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

@@sasha8664 ao sorry wena mlungu wam.

[@sasha8664]

Lol tsotsi taal

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Please can we bring Russia, India, China, and Brazil Also Pakistan all presidents yo be mediators as DA bringing Israel to South Africa to declare that DA can hovern South Africa we ate tired of hearing of threat and war can we have peace and stability in South Africa 😢

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Mr Herman Mashaba will experience as time goes on simple , appropriate adequate fair living clean and comfortable breathing fresh air change of Atmospheres refreshing South Africa 🌹🌹🌹🌴🌴⚘️⚘️🪻🪻🌿🌿🌵🌵🍀🍀❤❤❤❤❤❤Herman Mashaba you for President ❤

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

This is to experience first 5years if served well always vote the same party why not

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

With matric and full highly skilled workers young people have workings for justice department should be considered first with decent salary

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

This time the young people with skills must be elected to wirk in government

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Justice department is the main source of people who have skilled workers with matric finalizing documents gor courts for 9 province about do many hundreds of courts give them first priority instead of teaching people its in tier best interest

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Small business can be a huge problem because government must distribute land to create jobs with small tender

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Rise Mzanzi is high in 🗳 😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😂

[@moragbell]

Why does the analyst mainly speak to Action SA?.

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Sll money used from social grants must be honestly repayment must be made they can use thier money for business purposes and depts and seek quality health service

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

What about Lesotho, Zambia 🇿🇲

[@bokamososenatle5616]

I am still between my brains here and I stand to be corrected. What is the objectives for these rich families funding most of these political parties. So you have one master but different roles & responsibilities. Can we argue that this funding compromise and undermines democracy? I think there is no political party that is going to tell us here are the objectives of my funders and here are mine. I agree we still need to redefine and re structure the funding and donations policies. Let's us not forget typical form government can be relatively influenced by outside players. Outside players played a big role in orchestrating Apartheid governments. The outside players are still the same even today in the new government system. Other question in concern, is it always possible that this donation can be used as a form of money laundering scheme & investment hiding behind political parties?

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

Rise Mzansi is failing on immigration, telling us that the ANC’s attitude is the cause of of Zimbabwean illegal immigration. I disagree with Rise that a criminal is not responsible of a criminal acts just because the government failed. I will not vote for Rise Mzansi for making excuse of illegal immigration. I agree with their approach on social democracy but I reject it for its cosy stance on illegal immigration. I cannot compromise that.

[@watchingforvibes]

Refreshing to see younger people in the arena. A nice change from the usual dusty political rhetoric from the bigger parties.

[@dorrienvenables3057]

There is no evidence that the DA is declining as a party, as the ActionSA representative states, in fact the latest polls are showing quite the opposite. Both ActionSA and Rise Mzansi have insignificant numbers in the polls.

[@okellolester1631]

Impressed with Rise Mzansi. prefer their position on borders and the role of the state.

[@MalibongweNombande]

Now that we have established where the money to fund these political parties is coming from, it would make sense to trace who are the people behind the companies that get the contracts to create the marketing materials for these same parties. The hands that end up with the money spent on this campaigns will help us understand the monster we are dealing here.

[@HouseofIbisYoga]

uLife unjalo, friends 💜

[@The.mamamama]

omg i thought i was seeing things! it really is him 😂

[@ItuMona]

Close the borders and 70% of the problems will be solved???! 🥴Yikes! Nothing of structural racism, rampant corruption and corporate greed?! Our problems are deeper, complex and interrelated and to highlight one hot-topic issue as the cause of 70% of our problems speaks to the lack of understanding of the actual challenges South Africa faces. #VoteRISEMzansi because the leaders actually understand the problems, and have solutions and a willingness to serve.

[@buyaza8918]

Closing borders will deprive evil employers to stop abusing illegal migrants but emnpoy south africans, if these people come legally they'll be treated with respect.

[@lekgwarengsehlodimela572]

Not sold on both those parties

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Too much of empty promises people are tired and killing thier children and their self they can not bear the hunger they feel its the best solution sad🥺🤢

[@mhlengingcobo-zb9pu]

Where is eff

[@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh]

Check the first election debate we did.

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

The ActionSA has no choice but to remain a lapdog of the DA. It will keep on been its partner whether the DA is coalition with the ANC or not.

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

China is already recruiting people for jobs what about Russia 🇷🇺 Brazil 🇧🇷 Irag can also observe the voting 🗳

[@kopanokhumalo4344]

Honestly for me it's between DA and BOSA....it's not that I want them to win majority I just want hthem at the table...

[@sinoxolobooi4448]

Yho hayi, rather BOSA

[@kopanokhumalo4344]

@sinoxolobooi4448 yaz there's nothing wrong with DA, ebile that's why we need them here to adress misconception

[@KazieD]

The DA is already at the table and doing nothing for you! Give other people a chance, especially people who look like you and understand your struggles

[@kopanokhumalo4344]

@KazieD at the table as food.. at 20% there's not much you can do

[@KazieD]

@@kopanokhumalo4344 they are over 50% in WC and are doing nothing except cater for the rich and well to do

[@anonduckduck]

I think a lot of people don't understand Irfaan's point about Zimbabwe. As a national government, foreign policy is one of the primary responsibilities. The ANC has been in bed with ZANU-PF for years and both conspicuously and covertly, have been propping up a government with very little claim to legitimacy (and before that, endorsing a highly authoritarian government). As _the_ hegemony within SADC, South Africa is highly responsible for minimising the migratory pressure by ensuring (to the best of its ability) that due process is being followed by union states. Simply put, South Africa's inaction is culpable in the Zimbabwean crisis. It matches logically to Ifraan's main point on the topic, that being that illegal immigration is a symptom of more systemic issues and a focus must be put on addressing those underlying issues (whilst also taking short term measures to curb the inflow of people). Very much appreciate the debate, a good showing from the two. Will be sharing!

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Please 🙏 mention 🙏 Eskom will still stages will rise, and cost of living, however those from the poor 😢 will thier social grants be increased hence the amount or billions in politians accounts can be utilized

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Land distribution for people who interested gor locals people from other neighborhoods succeeded not locals South Africans they don't pay taxes people need land can be Indian's, black or White's farming is the main priority with a small tender

[@siyabongamazibuko7368]

lol swack, 20min in.....swack, these leaders are pap their contributions really don't move us.

[@JabsMajozi]

How is democracy expensive when the funds received are used for posters and airtime? If parties used the funds to pay staff and volunteers, or run projects in communities, we could call that expensive. But parties are spending millions of rands putting the pretty smiles of their premier and presidential candidates to advertise?? What exactly is a picture of Malema, Zibi or the Honorable Ramaphosa supposed to trigger in my conscious until I cast my ballot for that party?

[@xoleladouws2073]

It’s disheartening how parties can’t articulate how they can create jobs for anyone regardless of age or gender or sector. I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s probably hard for some people to think outside the box in creating jobs to stimulate our economy because they too don’t understand poverty at its core. Whether we like it or not, this is the states duty before private business to ensure that there’s work for all.

[@katenkosi1389]

These two parties they here to serve their masters not all of us special the actions SA chasing foreigner and they are not in mission to achieve our country as well as the continent

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

We are happy to see what the new party fo st the moment social grants people suffering they losing hope they curiously await to see pay back the money and 5000 for local citizens need the money the foreigners are doing well selling food in street corners selling second hand furniture they here to make money and safe to sent home we as locals no dpace fir anything

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

IEC is not an NGO let Russia ,China, India ,Pakistan Moscow and Brazil come as mediators South African's suffered more than enough , country is destroyed more crimes no hospitals functioning education fell apart.........Vote Action SA the paty for all no racism strict law all live equally ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Foreign nationals are more in jobs then locals they have own businesses and White's, locals still suffering to get a tenter to open business, this country is full with Foreigners not paying SARS they hide at night they out what is the chance of locals suffer more..... it will be unfair to anyone, South Africa is choosing a party to establish a new era for the poor the rich is ok they foing fine ,poor people need land distribution for farming of age they will not get jobs SARS will be appreciated with local contributions of Refunds after a 6 months period of time it must be considered what is the outcome of the business funds must be assisted to grow economy

[@ZulumanNdodana]

Mnxm Any debate without the EFF is so lame...

[@eliudnkuna3930]

The content and respect demonstrated here is too high for u hence u want chaos.

[@TheUsworldwide]

Rise shoulda had someone else representing

[@gommabangani6441]

Waste of wifi, fresh puppets

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

Poor GOVERANCE will break the foundation however then South Africa collapse 😢😢

[@user-yp1pu8kj7p]

For jobs young people can hire some unemployed people to do farming age descriptions 40 to 45 years to provide fir thier families yo get jobs people working with high shills earn peanuts banks robbing them they left with nothing to provide for their families all goes toward depts. Its difficult therefore they looking for positions in government for a better salary and working hours