The 10 Biggest SURRON Myths

[@SkateOrDie]

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[@user-sh8rp4ij9d]

How did you even get sponsored by Morgan and Morgan

[@qrygamer]

​@@user-sh8rp4ij9dmy guess is bro fell one too many times

[@kadenreeves7434]

When he said: “we fear what we don’t understand and we label what we can’t comprehend” that hit diff 😭😭😭

[@dolphin-studio]

not really

[@KaoruSugimura]

It's still relatively cheap. Not requiring insurance, tags, gas and regular maintenance saves a lot in the long run.

[@MrKongatthegates]

not street legal without those

[@grimreefah]

🤓

[@almightywhitey6955]

Absolute complete comparison ya did here, son! And I like how truthful u were about pros n cons of each Excellent job!

[@tacticooldennis]

I think a lot of people lump them into the dirt bike category, but the build quality is not the same. A dirtbike can handle being dropped multiple times without breaking. however a lot of components on a Sur-Ron are carried over from MTB and don't support the weight or speed. Even the Magura brakes; a lot of people pick as the best are not rated for the weight or speed of a Sur-Ron.

[@nicgur_6981]

That’s why they have different models.

[@capocruzers620]

I'm really glad u didn't say that they don't ruin jumps or anything because they do I mountain bike and I'm 14, we build dirt jumps not tiny ones, 6 foot tall lips and stuff and surron kids always come ride and destroy them I luv these bikes it's just always the riders that screw up

[@cmdr_talikarni]

Legality for use on the road: most states will classify it as a motorcycle and require motorcycle license and license plates (for the road). Not a bicycle as it doesn't have human powered pedals, and not a moped as it can go faster than 25-40mph (depends on state).

[@NatsumeKonno]

My state dont even wanna register it to anything not even a moped.

[@MrKongatthegates]

Its not street legal in either case. It says its an off road vehicle right on the box. You dont register quads and such@@NatsumeKonno

[@cbrjab]

⁠@@MrKongatthegatesyou do register quads and such here in California. Not sure about other states. Surron are not street legal here, technically they are unclassified since they do not fall in class 1, 2, or 3.

[@kalinww]

Crazy how big this channel is now. Love the surround content. I'm waiting for my talaria to show up in the next couple of days. Used to think skating was my life

[@Grisu.]

this may not get many views, but its really good info for someone thinking about buying one like me. i really appreciated this vid my friend.

[@SkateOrDie]

Thank you! that was my goal

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@Grisu. Your support helped destroy this channel

[@carsonkennedy8410]

Dude your editing is so good 🙌 Great video!

[@GodfatherXXI]

Dude, you live in Seattle. You should do a "sess" at the skatepark under the bridge in that city.

[@JoeStanek-vu7rl]

In Oregon if it goes over 35mph it needs lights, plate, tags and insurance... so they most definitely are illegal in Oregon

[@FREEADAMLANZA]

bike doesnt go over 30 if u dont cut the governor

[@Extrme_sports385]

My opinion is they should make trails just for moto vehicles and then trails for other stuff like hiking

[@Calthecool]

The problem with this idea is "they", who is "they"? If you aren't out there making trails for motos then you can't expect other people to do it for you.

[@MrKongatthegates]

They do

[@jasonschwartz9481]

Unfortunately even in what were at one time "country" areas, is becoming v harder and harder to find places to ride dirtbikes. Especially if you don't feel like paying to go to a motocross track or park. Soooo, Sur-rons? Talarias? Well worth it to ride quietly on some unique terrain.

[@MrKongatthegates]

If they made it look more like a bmx or 10 speed, you could go stealth on it in town, stay onder 30-35 probably never get pulled over. get rid of the long seat and put a hole in the middle, no lights

[@BallBiter56]

I like the part where he said if its a place where noise is not an issue then you are probably better of with a dirt bike. This is because the amount of people that have told me that a surron is better than my dirt bike because its quiet even though in the Utah no body gives a single frick about the noise, its a desert. Great to see a video stating that.

[@musicforlyfe1]

im happy hes doing what he likes instead of doing what the fans like

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@musicforlyfe1 Your support helped destroy this channel

[@logan-taylor]

excellent mythbusting brother

[@pleesedont]

i was wondering what’s your opinion and thoughts on the belt drive over chain for the surron?

[@kacsa]

How is it a misconception a Surron is a motorcycle/dirt bike? Go check the official website and see what they actually sell it as. They list it as a off road electric motorcycle. They can do 0-50mph in 3.6 seconds but you still don't think that's a motorcycle/dirt bike? Yes gas will have more power, more range, but that doesn't change the fact a Surron is an electric dirt bike.

[@Calthecool]

They don't even go 50mph unless you upgrade them

[@Justdrinksumtea]

Dude got a lawyer to sponsor him

[@done3960]

one very importantdetail: it's a lot easier to take an electric bike to your 8th floor apt. (via elevator) and service it or do other mechanical things to it. a gas powered bike would attract waaay more attention and i dare you to fire it up. lol.

[@bigballa8220]

You got the OG Pic of Surronster on the thumbnail!!! 💪💪

[@TomTom-gx1sm]

Nice vid :). Agreed with everything. Keeping my Talaria stock right now (been 800km this way), along with my other bikes. Didn't think about the bearings and stuff, definitely another reason to keep it stock, for me.

[@Thomas_808]

Do you recommend a Soron over a gas dirtbike for a first time bike for a 12-13 year old??

[@poganow]

yea its easier to ride and also the seat height is much lower

[@Thomas_808]

@@poganow ok thank you

[@lukeb5905]

Why not get an esk8? Stooge raceboards or Diy raceboards can easily beat out a stock surron

[@SkateOrDie]

Cuz I like wheelies and hitting jumps off-road

[@lukeb5905]

@@SkateOrDie could get an electric mountain board

[@swayzerhino2614]

I bought my wife a kukirin scooter for her birthday and now I can’t stop watching SURRON videos 😅

[@visionlightlab6094]

Thank you for what I would consider a video with a lot of honest useful information!

[@weapon4x243]

thinking more about getting a surron after seeing your vids on them

[@deborahgoslin5858]

Thank you for sharing ! I want one. Now I know about it I've learned alot !

[@jackhalverson9962]

I agree with all of your info, especially on the setting of where you would want/not want a Surron vs dirt bike but I disagree entirely with the fact that a Surron is more expensive than a dirt bike you compared a brand new Surron to a bunch of used bikes with a filter on a lot of people especially people who race only put a limited amount of miles on a bike to race them and use them to there peak sell the old one and pick from the selection of 20 other dirtbikes a new dirt bike probably runs around 8k a crf150r is about 6k and a crf250 is around 8k and that's not even starting on ktm's or 450's also dirt bikes have been around far longer and are more popular giving them a much larger aftermarket support allowing for way more crazy in-depth and more expensive builds then any Surron. If you don't think I'm qualified to say whats what j letting you know I got like 10 dirt bikes in my garage and have been searching for a Emoto/bike for months.

[@TheAntManMan]

you arent lying, also that discount you can get buying a used dirt bike doesnt seem to translate to these Ebikes... its just about my second month checking marketplace and 9/10 of the posts are about $200 lower than official dealers...more commonly mfs are asking MORE $$ than a brand new one because they did a couple mods. I honestly struggle to trust their parts selection, not to mention their ability to install correctly to guarantee the best functionality/longevity.... best of luck with your search!

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@jackhalverson9962 Your support helped destroy this channel

[@Insanity_Wolf]

Honestly i have insurance on all my ebikes. Which your first time getting pulled over you show you have accident insurance and cops will leave you alone. Thats there main concern is if you hit a car or a car hits you there needs to be a liability clause. Otherwise as long as your not cutting up traffic and doing 60 on sidewalks they are cool with whatever.

[@Huey4214]

Great video,loaded with good info. Thanks for taking the time

[@mitchstarr5317]

Haha it does look goofy but the pedals make it so I can, without ANY worries utilize all the city bike paths 👌 looks goofy but allows me to get around my city faster then by car 👍

[@como1loco]

6:44 water CAN dmg surron motor, when motor is hot and you apply water on it with temp change motor will suck in some water inside, so soon or later it will brake

[@140theguy]

Patiently waiting to meet my first surron rider that doesn't deserve a reckless driving ticket. LOL Surron is not road legal without mods anywhere in the US.

[@nk-dw2hm]

You're not wrong, but he said register it...

[@hacker1011000]

@@nk-dw2hm even tho them states dont register it you can't rejester it even if it is required

[@Shmack_]

Basically you can't ride 85 anywhere near public unless it's a high crime city where cops got actual crime to handle and ignore the Karens and bored old people calling in all th3 time

[@OKmusi]

skate or die turning into surron or die

[@PRAlSEJESUS]

I might get a Surron it’s the light bee s but I’m still hyped

[@Benautodesign]

5:36 Yep... I broke my pinky riding a surron... only my pinky (which literally shattered in 5 pieces) because I had gears on ! Good thing is I kept the bike between my legs and I didn't even scratched it ! Actually, I wish I had scratched the bike instead and kept my pinky straight cause it's all crooked now ^^

[@humanblibord7386]

Do u prefer making skate story vids or the list/top ten vids? And what do u fans prefer watching?

[@SkateOrDie]

depends mostly on what I'm inspired by. If you sort my videos by most popular its clear to see what fans prefer.

[@humanblibord7386]

@@SkateOrDie aight

[@lxix_0]

remember when this was a skate channel😔

[@burn1gotbeats]

Great points 👍

[@je7647]

sur ron on flip flops is what the kings do

[@Bill-e-Goat]

Brother’s bike was in flames so he pulled this app out like it had a fire extinguisher button😂😂😂😂

[@kieth7000]

Great video I can't argue with you on it at all. 😅

[@RadPOV]

underrated video frfr

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@RadPOV Your support helped destroy this channel

[@capocruzers620]

Really cool to hear u build ur own stuff us mtbers get tucked off when y'all come and ruin our stuff so it's cool u can respect that

[@tomilee78]

Surron = electric dirt bike It is not about weight, range, or something else. It is the purpose and capability.

[@cheshire_]

I don't know about street "legality" where I live, like I was pulled over on my escooter one even though they're legal, our cops are so outdated on new laws its crazy.... Anyways, I found a seller selling a used Segway X260 with 2x32ah batteries for C$4000, this sounds like a crazy deal think I'm just gonna gamble if I can get away or not riding these on the street/side(I have 0 interest in off roading, anyways we have literally 0 trails within a 25km radius lol) if that doesn't work/I get fined I'm gonna go the legal way and get another escooter I guess, sucks since I've always wanted an e-moto

[@maviplayz]

”He was okey” bro legit went flying wym he was ok💀

[@truthnpaws3866]

This is slowly turning into a surron channel 😢

[@ScottiCammarota.]

Mate there’s only 2 surron vidios on this Chanel

[@arandom_child1534]

His last video was a sk8 vid tf this man talking ab 😂

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@ScottiCammarota. Theres over 5 😭 Dingle berry didn’t bother to fact check before hitting the comments 😂

[@Peanutbutterfunds]

@@ScottiCammarota.🤣

[@_Im_Not_Creative_]

I know ist sad

[@randomgarbage8968]

bro the guy that rode his surron in a pool just killed me.💀💀

[@hazze4594]

5:10 bro was way to chill with that lmao

[@josealago7263]

Bro Fr he turned into Superman for a second 😂

[@ekoreplayz9925]

Can i use it in the snow? Theres is not much snow where i live but i still want to use it to go to my job in the winter could i do that?

[@SkateOrDie]

Yeah I’ve ridden in the snow/ice before you can definitely do it just gotta be careful tires with a lot of traction help alot

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@ekoreplayz9925 Your support helped destroy this channel

[@Kevin-dl1nv]

Great video!

[@diesel7549]

Im looking into surron supermoto wheels, are thrre any brands you would recommend and how often do you recommended changing them

[@ICEYCOKEwastakenwasalsotaken]

0:40 quote that

[@KurushimiVrishraka]

I was gonna get until I saw this, I need to change what I need now.

[@rather_be_a_cat]

The upkeep puts me off cause I've the engineering skills of a slug. My mountain bike has a 350w front wheel motor that takes me to 30mph without pedalling without the need for all the work.

[@Calthecool]

Got to love hub motors.

[@rather_be_a_cat]

@@Calthecool the only issue I've had with it being on the front wheel is it can wheel spin when going up steep slippery surfaces but apart from that they make everything so much easier.

[@Calthecool]

@@rather_be_a_cat I just built a 2kW 2wd bike with two 1kW kits (vid on my channel if you want to take a look) and it definitely spins the front wheel sometimes, although I mostly ride it on pavement where it isn’t a problem.

[@motoreese9431]

Whatever mods you do on your ebike...you do the same mods on your motorcycle...except they are more expensive

[@BLKalani]

where i live in Australia cops don't play with surrons if they see you on one they will try ram you off it and if u don't get away quick enough and get caught say bye bye to ur 4-6k bike cos they resell it in the police auction or crush it😭😭😭😭

[@TheSultan1470]

HAHAHAHA

[@WondersoftheWildWorld01]

I live in far north queensland cops dont give a shit aslong as you dont ride recklessly on footpaths and bike lanes.

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

​@@WondersoftheWildWorld01unfortunately Victoria is in debt so they'll steal your cash anyway they can literally. Have a good one from Nazi Dan's area lol

[@MAsWorld1]

It IS cheap, tell me what else you can get NEW for 4500?? That has anywhere near the fun factor! And mine has No mods & it’s a blast!

[@MrKongatthegates]

A honda rebel 300, Or a Yamaha scooter, both are street legal

[@MAsWorld1]

@@MrKongatthegates but your not gunna ride those in suburban woods & bike trails.

[@Benjamin.V]

if a modded surron costs around 12k wouldnt a stark varg be the better option?

[@sachlamy8762]

I’m in a situation where I have to chise between a moped scooter or a surron what would you say

[@Thegoproers18]

what version of surron do you have?

[@nathanielflynn1654]

I thought bro was a skater not a biker

[@user-zx4td6iy4j]

2:06 brain activation! (0------0)

[@peterstull7874]

is it a surron x in the vid? I wanna get an s lb

[@SkateOrDie]

Yeah it’s the x the lb is has smaller wheels worse suspension and weaker motor fyi

[@davidkirushkin9491]

I know this probably is not the place to stay But I have an electric atv What are 120 amp battery If you can run at least a 90 am battery You will get Far I like the Sarah, it looks good I live in Israel, by the way

[@Warzone227]

Are u running a 72 set up or just a stock battery

[@Redfoxsurron]

Hey I made it in a video hahahah

[@TXDYLAN]

Register it as a Moped or a street legal dirt bike?

[@yahya523mahmoud8]

dude i want one of these bikes so bad but here on palestine the STOCK ones cost more than a car

[@almightywhitey6955]

4500 isn’t hump change

[@almightywhitey6955]

Or chump change

[@Stinkyman_4000]

Yoooooooo i love your channel bro keep it up

[@dmvbenz7536]

Just got my talaria mx4 yesterday, already rode it a ton, super fun, been riding it everywhere my motorcycle can’t go, only thing is the seat is uncomfortable and it starts to hurt after like 8 min😂

[@lostinspace2899]

Dont worry your a** will adapt real quick to the seat, so no pain anymore 😅

[@shay_mx34]

Do the seat mod that lifts up the front part of it

[@sjefleenaerts7277]

enduro bikes have a tiny range compared to road bikes a hundred miles in extreme riding is pretty rare tbh

[@3pound]

weird seeing my old middle school 9:11 lmao

[@benswift218]

In the uk u get chases and even hit off ur bike if u don’t take off. Bike would be taken and u would loose ur license for 1/2 years

[@CokesAndTokes]

Surons aren't in a gray area they are literally just e-dirtbikes stock. ,there's only 1 gray area one I've seen and it's a pithog max

[@Crxckd1]

what is the diff between the surron bee x and surron x?

[@SkateOrDie]

Smaller wheels worse suspension and weaker battery and motor

[@Manga_TM]

I got a surron cause im getting into bikes but my parents wont let me ride a gas bike till i get a job to pay for the bike gas and insurance but im 14 and im not waiting 2 years lol

[@NatsumeKonno]

Its a federal law. If there calling it an E-Bike then yes its illegal. The state can override and make there own E-Bike law but most states are if its over 750watts its not street legal. Now if your state can register it as a Moped or motorcycle then your good to go.

[@MrKongatthegates]

It dosent have brake lights or rear signal lights among other things. Its not even trying to be street legal, the laws are different everywhere

[@NatsumeKonno]

@@MrKongatthegates the 750watt ebike is universal but most states will let you register it as an electric moped. Sur ron is in the news in my state now. It's a big topic here as so many people ride sur rons. But the issue in the news call it a Gray area because we do not register sur rons here as moped and people ride it as an ebike. The issue here is 750watts is the agreed ebike max cap. They said in the news it's street legal atm if they limit there power to 750watts. But guess who's doing that. No one is.

[@GoofyAhhMods]

The e ride pro is a dirt bike imo

[@Grab23bottles]

3:48 😂

[@Cryptic.-.]

Do you need a driving lisence for a surron?

[@claudiorojas1234]

In most states yes but no ones really follow the rules when it comes to ebikes. You need to check your local laws. But basically if your bike goes faster than 28mph you need to have it registered and you need to have a regular license or a moped license. All vary state by state but this is the basic.

[@MrKongatthegates]

No they are not street legal period. You can use it on private property, the farm, or public trails or a track.

[@LTbloxYT]

5:16 he was ok 😂😂😂😂

[@archer_2024]

and for racing dirtbikes take it

[@Alex-oy6wb]

What state and city is he in?

[@RE4L_XmX]

2:06 i watched this vid in class and sombody saw… this

[@L3on-420]

HE UPLOADED

[@_ze_zodiac_]

But at what cost 👀🥲🤣🤣🤣 jk

[@DC-si8xw]

have to completely disagree, if you. pedals and a tune for 19mph will make that close enough to an ebike. police cant tell the watts, but you can lift a wheel and show the speed. so if you were stopped and put it on eco19mph with pedals, thats close enough to legit

[@MrKongatthegates]

No plate is the big give away. IF you stay under 35 they might leave you alone but it looks like a dirtbike, not a bike, so most cops will be on you

[@goneridingparts]

Great Over View of the surron...

[@Fastestgolfkartkid]

Who renembers when he would post skate content

[@Drasticho]

How can I make a surron street legal?

[@IsaiahLimas]

can you link the link for the surron that was in this vid pls

[@truthnpaws3866]

@@IsaiahLimas Your support helped destroy this channel

[@mickeythorpe2426]

Boy that really rips. Like a dirt bike. Proof it not a moped or bicycle. Jumps like a dirt bike. Cant get that kind of power out of your e bike or moped. You say it’s not a dirt bike, it performs like one. Definitely not an e bike or a moped. Not a bicycle. Illegal on the street as well.

[@alangoodrich6590]

you in seattle area? lets ride. i know those power lines. right by my house. lets ride...

[@DannyfMartin]

I like flip flops no helmet and ripping down forestry roads to remote lakes

[@cbrjab]

I disagree with the “they are not dirtbikes” argument. That is the closest thing to compare it to, legally. They are just a small, light weight, modern electric motorcycle. And kids/teenagers are not responsible enough to ride them on the roads. I’m talking in general because there are always exceptions. Unfortunately, the education isn’t out there to allow this currently. Smart thing would be to classify them as mopeds and require some type of education and licensing for younger people. But then you are adding cost to owning them. But living here in So Cal and watching so many of these irresponsible teens riding these around is getting stupid. 3 killed last year. All were their fault for not following the rules of the road. These are not bicycles and they need to be ridden far more responsibly. Wanna have fun and screw around, take them off-road! Screwing around on the street has major consequences which most teens are not at a point to accept responsibility for. Popping wheelies in front of elementary schools, on the wrong side of the road doing, 40-50mph, while kids are getting out of school should land you a hefty fine, confiscate your bike and jail time! And yes, I see it all the time as well as them do 40mph+ on the sidewalk! These are the ones ruining it for everyone and the police are starting to crack down.

[@nk-dw2hm]

5:30 wtf is this clip? Dude didnt even try to turn and went straight into the guardrail