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@user-sh8rp4ij9d11 ай бұрын
How did you even get sponsored by Morgan and Morgan
@qrygamer3 ай бұрын
@@user-sh8rp4ij9dmy guess is bro fell one too many times
@kadenreeves74349 ай бұрын
When he said: “we fear what we don’t understand and we label what we can’t comprehend” that hit diff 😭😭😭
@dolphin-studio5 ай бұрын
not really
@KaoruSugimura9 ай бұрын
It's still relatively cheap. Not requiring insurance, tags, gas and regular maintenance saves a lot in the long run.
@MrKongatthegates5 ай бұрын
not street legal without those
@grimreefah5 ай бұрын
🤓
@almightywhitey69559 ай бұрын
Absolute complete comparison ya did here, son! And I like how truthful u were about pros n cons of each Excellent job!
@tacticooldennis11 ай бұрын
I think a lot of people lump them into the dirt bike category, but the build quality is not the same. A dirtbike can handle being dropped multiple times without breaking. however a lot of components on a Sur-Ron are carried over from MTB and don't support the weight or speed. Even the Magura brakes; a lot of people pick as the best are not rated for the weight or speed of a Sur-Ron.
@nicgur_69819 ай бұрын
That’s why they have different models.
@capocruzers62010 ай бұрын
I'm really glad u didn't say that they don't ruin jumps or anything because they do I mountain bike and I'm 14, we build dirt jumps not tiny ones, 6 foot tall lips and stuff and surron kids always come ride and destroy them I luv these bikes it's just always the riders that screw up
@cmdr_talikarni9 ай бұрын
Legality for use on the road: most states will classify it as a motorcycle and require motorcycle license and license plates (for the road). Not a bicycle as it doesn't have human powered pedals, and not a moped as it can go faster than 25-40mph (depends on state).
@NatsumeKonno9 ай бұрын
My state dont even wanna register it to anything not even a moped.
@MrKongatthegates5 ай бұрын
Its not street legal in either case. It says its an off road vehicle right on the box. You dont register quads and such@@NatsumeKonno
@cbrjabАй бұрын
@@MrKongatthegatesyou do register quads and such here in California. Not sure about other states. Surron are not street legal here, technically they are unclassified since they do not fall in class 1, 2, or 3.
@kalinww3 ай бұрын
Crazy how big this channel is now. Love the surround content. I'm waiting for my talaria to show up in the next couple of days. Used to think skating was my life
@Grisu. Жыл бұрын
this may not get many views, but its really good info for someone thinking about buying one like me. i really appreciated this vid my friend.
@SkateOrDie Жыл бұрын
Thank you! that was my goal
@truthnpaws3866Ай бұрын
@@Grisu. Your support helped destroy this channel
@carsonkennedy8410 Жыл бұрын
Dude your editing is so good 🙌 Great video!
@GodfatherXXI Жыл бұрын
Dude, you live in Seattle. You should do a "sess" at the skatepark under the bridge in that city.
@JoeStanek-vu7rl3 ай бұрын
In Oregon if it goes over 35mph it needs lights, plate, tags and insurance... so they most definitely are illegal in Oregon
@FREEADAMLANZA16 күн бұрын
bike doesnt go over 30 if u dont cut the governor
@Extrme_sports3858 ай бұрын
My opinion is they should make trails just for moto vehicles and then trails for other stuff like hiking
@Calthecool7 ай бұрын
The problem with this idea is "they", who is "they"? If you aren't out there making trails for motos then you can't expect other people to do it for you.
@MrKongatthegates5 ай бұрын
They do
@jasonschwartz9481 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately even in what were at one time "country" areas, is becoming v harder and harder to find places to ride dirtbikes. Especially if you don't feel like paying to go to a motocross track or park. Soooo, Sur-rons? Talarias? Well worth it to ride quietly on some unique terrain.
@MrKongatthegates5 ай бұрын
If they made it look more like a bmx or 10 speed, you could go stealth on it in town, stay onder 30-35 probably never get pulled over. get rid of the long seat and put a hole in the middle, no lights
@BallBiter56Ай бұрын
I like the part where he said if its a place where noise is not an issue then you are probably better of with a dirt bike. This is because the amount of people that have told me that a surron is better than my dirt bike because its quiet even though in the Utah no body gives a single frick about the noise, its a desert. Great to see a video stating that.
@musicforlyfe1 Жыл бұрын
im happy hes doing what he likes instead of doing what the fans like
@truthnpaws3866Ай бұрын
@@musicforlyfe1 Your support helped destroy this channel
@logan-taylor Жыл бұрын
excellent mythbusting brother
@pleesedont11 ай бұрын
i was wondering what’s your opinion and thoughts on the belt drive over chain for the surron?
@kacsa11 ай бұрын
How is it a misconception a Surron is a motorcycle/dirt bike? Go check the official website and see what they actually sell it as. They list it as a off road electric motorcycle. They can do 0-50mph in 3.6 seconds but you still don't think that's a motorcycle/dirt bike? Yes gas will have more power, more range, but that doesn't change the fact a Surron is an electric dirt bike.
@Calthecool7 ай бұрын
They don't even go 50mph unless you upgrade them
@Justdrinksumtea Жыл бұрын
Dude got a lawyer to sponsor him
@done39609 ай бұрын
one very importantdetail: it's a lot easier to take an electric bike to your 8th floor apt. (via elevator) and service it or do other mechanical things to it. a gas powered bike would attract waaay more attention and i dare you to fire it up. lol.
@bigballa8220 Жыл бұрын
You got the OG Pic of Surronster on the thumbnail!!! 💪💪
@TomTom-gx1sm3 ай бұрын
Nice vid :). Agreed with everything. Keeping my Talaria stock right now (been 800km this way), along with my other bikes. Didn't think about the bearings and stuff, definitely another reason to keep it stock, for me.
@Thomas_8089 ай бұрын
Do you recommend a Soron over a gas dirtbike for a first time bike for a 12-13 year old??
@poganow9 ай бұрын
yea its easier to ride and also the seat height is much lower
@Thomas_8089 ай бұрын
@@poganow ok thank you
@lukeb5905 Жыл бұрын
Why not get an esk8? Stooge raceboards or Diy raceboards can easily beat out a stock surron
@SkateOrDie Жыл бұрын
Cuz I like wheelies and hitting jumps off-road
@lukeb5905 Жыл бұрын
@@SkateOrDie could get an electric mountain board
@swayzerhino26142 ай бұрын
I bought my wife a kukirin scooter for her birthday and now I can’t stop watching SURRON videos 😅
@visionlightlab609411 ай бұрын
Thank you for what I would consider a video with a lot of honest useful information!
@weapon4x243 Жыл бұрын
thinking more about getting a surron after seeing your vids on them
@deborahgoslin585811 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing ! I want one. Now I know about it I've learned alot !
@jackhalverson9962 Жыл бұрын
I agree with all of your info, especially on the setting of where you would want/not want a Surron vs dirt bike but I disagree entirely with the fact that a Surron is more expensive than a dirt bike you compared a brand new Surron to a bunch of used bikes with a filter on a lot of people especially people who race only put a limited amount of miles on a bike to race them and use them to there peak sell the old one and pick from the selection of 20 other dirtbikes a new dirt bike probably runs around 8k a crf150r is about 6k and a crf250 is around 8k and that's not even starting on ktm's or 450's also dirt bikes have been around far longer and are more popular giving them a much larger aftermarket support allowing for way more crazy in-depth and more expensive builds then any Surron. If you don't think I'm qualified to say whats what j letting you know I got like 10 dirt bikes in my garage and have been searching for a Emoto/bike for months.
@TheAntManMan9 ай бұрын
you arent lying, also that discount you can get buying a used dirt bike doesnt seem to translate to these Ebikes... its just about my second month checking marketplace and 9/10 of the posts are about $200 lower than official dealers...more commonly mfs are asking MORE $$ than a brand new one because they did a couple mods. I honestly struggle to trust their parts selection, not to mention their ability to install correctly to guarantee the best functionality/longevity.... best of luck with your search!
@truthnpaws3866Ай бұрын
@@jackhalverson9962 Your support helped destroy this channel
@Insanity_WolfАй бұрын
Honestly i have insurance on all my ebikes. Which your first time getting pulled over you show you have accident insurance and cops will leave you alone. Thats there main concern is if you hit a car or a car hits you there needs to be a liability clause. Otherwise as long as your not cutting up traffic and doing 60 on sidewalks they are cool with whatever.
@Huey42149 ай бұрын
Great video,loaded with good info. Thanks for taking the time
@mitchstarr531711 ай бұрын
Haha it does look goofy but the pedals make it so I can, without ANY worries utilize all the city bike paths 👌 looks goofy but allows me to get around my city faster then by car 👍
@como1loco Жыл бұрын
6:44 water CAN dmg surron motor, when motor is hot and you apply water on it with temp change motor will suck in some water inside, so soon or later it will brake
@140theguy Жыл бұрын
Patiently waiting to meet my first surron rider that doesn't deserve a reckless driving ticket. LOL Surron is not road legal without mods anywhere in the US.
@nk-dw2hm6 ай бұрын
You're not wrong, but he said register it...
@hacker10110003 ай бұрын
@@nk-dw2hm even tho them states dont register it you can't rejester it even if it is required
@Shmack_10 ай бұрын
Basically you can't ride 85 anywhere near public unless it's a high crime city where cops got actual crime to handle and ignore the Karens and bored old people calling in all th3 time
@OKmusi11 ай бұрын
skate or die turning into surron or die
@PRAlSEJESUSАй бұрын
I might get a Surron it’s the light bee s but I’m still hyped
@Benautodesign7 ай бұрын
5:36 Yep... I broke my pinky riding a surron... only my pinky (which literally shattered in 5 pieces) because I had gears on ! Good thing is I kept the bike between my legs and I didn't even scratched it ! Actually, I wish I had scratched the bike instead and kept my pinky straight cause it's all crooked now ^^
@humanblibord7386 Жыл бұрын
Do u prefer making skate story vids or the list/top ten vids? And what do u fans prefer watching?
@SkateOrDie Жыл бұрын
depends mostly on what I'm inspired by. If you sort my videos by most popular its clear to see what fans prefer.
@humanblibord7386 Жыл бұрын
@@SkateOrDie aight
@lxix_010 ай бұрын
remember when this was a skate channel😔
@burn1gotbeats Жыл бұрын
Great points 👍
@je764711 ай бұрын
sur ron on flip flops is what the kings do
@Bill-e-Goat2 ай бұрын
Brother’s bike was in flames so he pulled this app out like it had a fire extinguisher button😂😂😂😂
@kieth7000 Жыл бұрын
Great video I can't argue with you on it at all. 😅
@RadPOV Жыл бұрын
underrated video frfr
@truthnpaws3866Ай бұрын
@@RadPOV Your support helped destroy this channel
@capocruzers62010 ай бұрын
Really cool to hear u build ur own stuff us mtbers get tucked off when y'all come and ruin our stuff so it's cool u can respect that
@tomilee789 ай бұрын
Surron = electric dirt bike It is not about weight, range, or something else. It is the purpose and capability.
@cheshire_3 ай бұрын
I don't know about street "legality" where I live, like I was pulled over on my escooter one even though they're legal, our cops are so outdated on new laws its crazy.... Anyways, I found a seller selling a used Segway X260 with 2x32ah batteries for C$4000, this sounds like a crazy deal think I'm just gonna gamble if I can get away or not riding these on the street/side(I have 0 interest in off roading, anyways we have literally 0 trails within a 25km radius lol) if that doesn't work/I get fined I'm gonna go the legal way and get another escooter I guess, sucks since I've always wanted an e-moto
@maviplayz11 ай бұрын
”He was okey” bro legit went flying wym he was ok💀
@truthnpaws3866 Жыл бұрын
This is slowly turning into a surron channel 😢
@ScottiCammarota. Жыл бұрын
Mate there’s only 2 surron vidios on this Chanel
@arandom_child1534 Жыл бұрын
His last video was a sk8 vid tf this man talking ab 😂
@truthnpaws3866 Жыл бұрын
@@ScottiCammarota. Theres over 5 😭 Dingle berry didn’t bother to fact check before hitting the comments 😂
@Peanutbutterfunds Жыл бұрын
@@ScottiCammarota.🤣
@_Im_Not_Creative_ Жыл бұрын
I know ist sad
@randomgarbage8968Ай бұрын
bro the guy that rode his surron in a pool just killed me.💀💀
@hazze4594 Жыл бұрын
5:10 bro was way to chill with that lmao
@josealago7263 Жыл бұрын
Bro Fr he turned into Superman for a second 😂
@ekoreplayz9925 Жыл бұрын
Can i use it in the snow? Theres is not much snow where i live but i still want to use it to go to my job in the winter could i do that?
@SkateOrDie Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve ridden in the snow/ice before you can definitely do it just gotta be careful tires with a lot of traction help alot
@truthnpaws3866Ай бұрын
@@ekoreplayz9925 Your support helped destroy this channel
@Kevin-dl1nv Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@diesel7549 Жыл бұрын
Im looking into surron supermoto wheels, are thrre any brands you would recommend and how often do you recommended changing them
@ICEYCOKEwastakenwasalsotaken6 күн бұрын
0:40 quote that
@KurushimiVrishraka Жыл бұрын
I was gonna get until I saw this, I need to change what I need now.
@rather_be_a_cat Жыл бұрын
The upkeep puts me off cause I've the engineering skills of a slug. My mountain bike has a 350w front wheel motor that takes me to 30mph without pedalling without the need for all the work.
@Calthecool7 ай бұрын
Got to love hub motors.
@rather_be_a_cat7 ай бұрын
@@Calthecool the only issue I've had with it being on the front wheel is it can wheel spin when going up steep slippery surfaces but apart from that they make everything so much easier.
@Calthecool7 ай бұрын
@@rather_be_a_cat I just built a 2kW 2wd bike with two 1kW kits (vid on my channel if you want to take a look) and it definitely spins the front wheel sometimes, although I mostly ride it on pavement where it isn’t a problem.
@motoreese94315 ай бұрын
Whatever mods you do on your ebike...you do the same mods on your motorcycle...except they are more expensive
@BLKalani Жыл бұрын
where i live in Australia cops don't play with surrons if they see you on one they will try ram you off it and if u don't get away quick enough and get caught say bye bye to ur 4-6k bike cos they resell it in the police auction or crush it😭😭😭😭
@TheSultan1470 Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA
@WondersoftheWildWorld01 Жыл бұрын
I live in far north queensland cops dont give a shit aslong as you dont ride recklessly on footpaths and bike lanes.
@jamesgeorgevellavella196111 ай бұрын
@@WondersoftheWildWorld01unfortunately Victoria is in debt so they'll steal your cash anyway they can literally. Have a good one from Nazi Dan's area lol
@MAsWorld111 ай бұрын
It IS cheap, tell me what else you can get NEW for 4500?? That has anywhere near the fun factor! And mine has No mods & it’s a blast!
@MrKongatthegates5 ай бұрын
A honda rebel 300, Or a Yamaha scooter, both are street legal
@MAsWorld15 ай бұрын
@@MrKongatthegates but your not gunna ride those in suburban woods & bike trails.
@Benjamin.V4 ай бұрын
if a modded surron costs around 12k wouldnt a stark varg be the better option?
@sachlamy8762 Жыл бұрын
I’m in a situation where I have to chise between a moped scooter or a surron what would you say
@Thegoproers18Ай бұрын
what version of surron do you have?
@nathanielflynn16544 ай бұрын
I thought bro was a skater not a biker
@user-zx4td6iy4j2 ай бұрын
2:06 brain activation! (0------0)
@peterstull7874 Жыл бұрын
is it a surron x in the vid? I wanna get an s lb
@SkateOrDie Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s the x the lb is has smaller wheels worse suspension and weaker motor fyi
@davidkirushkin949111 ай бұрын
I know this probably is not the place to stay But I have an electric atv What are 120 amp battery If you can run at least a 90 am battery You will get Far I like the Sarah, it looks good I live in Israel, by the way
@Warzone2273 ай бұрын
Are u running a 72 set up or just a stock battery
@Redfoxsurron19 күн бұрын
Hey I made it in a video hahahah
@TXDYLAN7 ай бұрын
Register it as a Moped or a street legal dirt bike?
@yahya523mahmoud8 Жыл бұрын
dude i want one of these bikes so bad but here on palestine the STOCK ones cost more than a car
@almightywhitey69559 ай бұрын
4500 isn’t hump change
@almightywhitey69559 ай бұрын
Or chump change
@Stinkyman_4000 Жыл бұрын
Yoooooooo i love your channel bro keep it up
@dmvbenz7536 Жыл бұрын
Just got my talaria mx4 yesterday, already rode it a ton, super fun, been riding it everywhere my motorcycle can’t go, only thing is the seat is uncomfortable and it starts to hurt after like 8 min😂
@lostinspace2899 Жыл бұрын
Dont worry your a** will adapt real quick to the seat, so no pain anymore 😅
@shay_mx34 Жыл бұрын
Do the seat mod that lifts up the front part of it
@sjefleenaerts7277 Жыл бұрын
enduro bikes have a tiny range compared to road bikes a hundred miles in extreme riding is pretty rare tbh
@3pound9 ай бұрын
weird seeing my old middle school 9:11 lmao
@benswift21811 ай бұрын
In the uk u get chases and even hit off ur bike if u don’t take off. Bike would be taken and u would loose ur license for 1/2 years
@CokesAndTokes11 ай бұрын
Surons aren't in a gray area they are literally just e-dirtbikes stock. ,there's only 1 gray area one I've seen and it's a pithog max
@Crxckd1 Жыл бұрын
what is the diff between the surron bee x and surron x?
@SkateOrDie Жыл бұрын
Smaller wheels worse suspension and weaker battery and motor
@Manga_TM4 күн бұрын
I got a surron cause im getting into bikes but my parents wont let me ride a gas bike till i get a job to pay for the bike gas and insurance but im 14 and im not waiting 2 years lol
@NatsumeKonno9 ай бұрын
Its a federal law. If there calling it an E-Bike then yes its illegal. The state can override and make there own E-Bike law but most states are if its over 750watts its not street legal. Now if your state can register it as a Moped or motorcycle then your good to go.
@MrKongatthegates5 ай бұрын
It dosent have brake lights or rear signal lights among other things. Its not even trying to be street legal, the laws are different everywhere
@NatsumeKonno5 ай бұрын
@@MrKongatthegates the 750watt ebike is universal but most states will let you register it as an electric moped. Sur ron is in the news in my state now. It's a big topic here as so many people ride sur rons. But the issue in the news call it a Gray area because we do not register sur rons here as moped and people ride it as an ebike. The issue here is 750watts is the agreed ebike max cap. They said in the news it's street legal atm if they limit there power to 750watts. But guess who's doing that. No one is.
@GoofyAhhMods9 ай бұрын
The e ride pro is a dirt bike imo
@Grab23bottles2 ай бұрын
3:48 😂
@Cryptic.-.9 ай бұрын
Do you need a driving lisence for a surron?
@claudiorojas12346 ай бұрын
In most states yes but no ones really follow the rules when it comes to ebikes. You need to check your local laws. But basically if your bike goes faster than 28mph you need to have it registered and you need to have a regular license or a moped license. All vary state by state but this is the basic.
@MrKongatthegates5 ай бұрын
No they are not street legal period. You can use it on private property, the farm, or public trails or a track.
@LTbloxYT5 ай бұрын
5:16 he was ok 😂😂😂😂
@archer_2024 Жыл бұрын
and for racing dirtbikes take it
@Alex-oy6wb5 ай бұрын
What state and city is he in?
@RE4L_XmX2 ай бұрын
2:06 i watched this vid in class and sombody saw… this
@L3on-420 Жыл бұрын
HE UPLOADED
@_ze_zodiac_ Жыл бұрын
But at what cost 👀🥲🤣🤣🤣 jk
@DC-si8xw6 ай бұрын
have to completely disagree, if you. pedals and a tune for 19mph will make that close enough to an ebike. police cant tell the watts, but you can lift a wheel and show the speed. so if you were stopped and put it on eco19mph with pedals, thats close enough to legit
@MrKongatthegates5 ай бұрын
No plate is the big give away. IF you stay under 35 they might leave you alone but it looks like a dirtbike, not a bike, so most cops will be on you
@goneridingparts7 ай бұрын
Great Over View of the surron...
@Fastestgolfkartkid Жыл бұрын
Who renembers when he would post skate content
@Drasticho3 ай бұрын
How can I make a surron street legal?
@IsaiahLimas10 ай бұрын
can you link the link for the surron that was in this vid pls
@truthnpaws3866Ай бұрын
@@IsaiahLimas Your support helped destroy this channel
@mickeythorpe24268 ай бұрын
Boy that really rips. Like a dirt bike. Proof it not a moped or bicycle. Jumps like a dirt bike. Cant get that kind of power out of your e bike or moped. You say it’s not a dirt bike, it performs like one. Definitely not an e bike or a moped. Not a bicycle. Illegal on the street as well.
@alangoodrich65909 ай бұрын
you in seattle area? lets ride. i know those power lines. right by my house. lets ride...
@DannyfMartin Жыл бұрын
I like flip flops no helmet and ripping down forestry roads to remote lakes
@cbrjabАй бұрын
I disagree with the “they are not dirtbikes” argument. That is the closest thing to compare it to, legally. They are just a small, light weight, modern electric motorcycle. And kids/teenagers are not responsible enough to ride them on the roads. I’m talking in general because there are always exceptions. Unfortunately, the education isn’t out there to allow this currently. Smart thing would be to classify them as mopeds and require some type of education and licensing for younger people. But then you are adding cost to owning them. But living here in So Cal and watching so many of these irresponsible teens riding these around is getting stupid. 3 killed last year. All were their fault for not following the rules of the road. These are not bicycles and they need to be ridden far more responsibly. Wanna have fun and screw around, take them off-road! Screwing around on the street has major consequences which most teens are not at a point to accept responsibility for. Popping wheelies in front of elementary schools, on the wrong side of the road doing, 40-50mph, while kids are getting out of school should land you a hefty fine, confiscate your bike and jail time! And yes, I see it all the time as well as them do 40mph+ on the sidewalk! These are the ones ruining it for everyone and the police are starting to crack down.
@nk-dw2hm6 ай бұрын
5:30 wtf is this clip? Dude didnt even try to turn and went straight into the guardrail