Skinny Puppy interview: Winnipeg 1985

Filmed for VPW community access television on 12.19.85. This was part of a recorded concert.

[@gabboagonistes]

Same tastes, same goals, same... hair.

[@indiciaobscure]

now I'm imagining them all meeting and coincidentally having the same hair, and from there it was history

[@harrytruax5195]

Hair...there...and everywhere...

[@MrEasye6996]

Lmao

[@lukaskrieger3955]

same name, even. XD

[@colinrussell2017]

"You can't be non conformist if you don't drink coffee!" -Goth Kid on South Park

[@MaraDaCoriovallum]

Skinny Puppy....the soundtrack of my life....now I'm 35 years fan of them.... 🤘😁🤘

[@tylerscots1329]

Yep same. I started listening to them back in 1998

[@childofcascadia]

1994 here

[@rafchak122]

great minds live alike.

[@alexm9582]

Echt jetzt ? Real fucking good !!

[@1HorseOpenSlay]

Cleanse fold and manipulate. The album of my childhood. Thankyou skinny puppy, for making the world a better place

[@dukenukem3dfx572]

Been listening to Skinny Puppy here in 2020. Just putting that stamp here. Because I love this band.

[@mapachesudamericano3923]

What

[@cynthianovoselsky4772]

Kool

[@jprobertson-e1j]

skinny puppy always inspired me to think DIY

[@adamak47miller90]

There one band I still listen to every day and I'm 41 years old. There musical talent has helped me throughout my life. 💀👍

[@RIVALContentJammerz]

I just turned 42. I like Sisters, and Souixie as well. These guys are more down to Earth, personality wise, but their music is wilder

[@puppybrap4524]

I'm 53 and from Winnipeg, home of the video. I first saw the Smothered Hope video on this VPW channel. I was actually just flipping channels and came across this weird music style that I had not heard before. I don't think the concert had happened yet when I saw the video because I recall the host saying the concert was upcoming. I have been hooked to SP ever since seeing the video. Unfortunately, I never did attend the concert and still to this day have not seen my fave band of all time.

[@mola55e5]

Weird. I’m 41. Been a fan since Last Rights. I was 13 when that record came out. My friend’s older sister had it and it changed my life. I went out and picked up Mind:TPI shortly thereafter and I was Hooked for life!!! Such an important group, not just in my life but in music in general.

[@puppybrap4524]

mola55e5 very nice introduction to an artist. I recall getting the Bites album (first one of many) and a Dead Kennedy’s album at the same time. Definitely a life changing band. Who knows what I’d be listening to now had it not been for that one night all those years ago. I shudder to think.

[@nyokoSalome]

;0 if 'too dark park' isn't part of your 'musical break' in industrial-metal... you hafta/// ;0 ('the process" is the next best place to start... RIP sir dwayne ;\)

[@geogecko137]

Jesus why is this the first time I ever noticed Kevin wearing an Einstürzende Neubauten T-Shirt??? I heckin miss these guys so much. Hope there will be one last and final album from SP

[@danadoozer9990]

We need to bring this hair back!

[@kristinharper8226]

We need to bring all of it back! I was the happiest when I had black hair and pale skin caked on eyeliner going to the goth clubs back in the 90's.

[@universalflamethrower6342]

bring back black hair matters

[@jimbothompson6540]

@@kristinharper8226 I wasn't there but that sounds great, but that scene doesnt sound inclusive enough, too many white males... Ever wonder why everything sucks now?

[@wheniwasyourage4418]

Need to bring back real death rock.

[@alukuhito]

Noone's stopping you. You can't change others, but you can change yourself.

[@amberreyes549]

Skinny puppy totally rules!

[@MrJpm1989]

100%

[@jaxager]

Truer words have never been spoken.

[@niellalien]

Thanks for the upload. I wish guys still looked like this, ha. I love how cEvin looks, especially.

[@VivianDanger]

we do

[@christopherluvsaidan67]

Such beautiful men 💋❤❤

[@cjohnson2916]

They all remind me of Morpheus from Sandman with that hair.

[@johnturtle6649]

True, and I was there for both, but this look was theirs and predated Sandman by a couple years. Did you know John Constantine was inspired by Sting of the police?

[@cylerstarr1874]

john turtle that blows me away about Sting makes a lot of sense though when ya think about it

[@MiguelRodriguez-uy5vc]

Morpheus, Dorpheus, Orpheus Go eat some walruses Orifices, Porridges Morpheus, Morpheus Going to the Buffet and Walruses Confidence, Corpseses Worcestershire sauce Go into your orifices Red pill, blue pill Morpheus, Walruses Seashells by the Seashorpheus [Outro] Morpheus drinking a forty in a death basket! -Hannibal Buress

[@evanabbott2737]

“You want ideas? I’ll give you ideas, in ABUNDANCE!”😁

[@rab1ez819]

I think sandman took a lot of inspiration from 80s alternative styles. Death looks like a casual goth

[@adreanagh]

Cool guys! Love their look. HOT!!

[@IanMcCausland]

I was at this show, changed my life!

[@feelingused6421]

I met them at Eaton's place (they were signing albums) where I was (mistakenly) told that it was not an all ages show (I was 11). : ( It was not until 1991 that I got to see them for the first time in Minneapolis. Saw them again in Vancouver at the Commodore a few years ago with Frontline Assembly. Great show!

[@urrrccckostan]

Imagine seeing these guys in a cafe in Milwaukee!!!!

[@NachtSchreck13]

The interviewer asks good questions, thankfully. I really dig the laid back, relaxed vibe. Poor Bill Leeb, though. He is pushed off to the side, barely receiving any camera time, and not one word uttered during the interview. It's almost as if he was already gone from the band in spirit. I do often wonder what SP would have turned out like had he remained in the band. Bites, Remission and Back and Forth are, by far, their greatest releases, in my opinion, and I am a big fan of Frontline Assembly's early albums, like "The Initial Command." I can't help but think that Skinny Puppy would have been much better with Bill Leeb remaining in the band in later years, even with Dwayne Goettel as well (say, a four-piece...well, if you count Rave Dave Ogilve, a five-piece, really). That line-up would have produced some stellar fucking music.

[@markmower6507]

I absolutely agree that would have been great, but unfortunately did not happen. Really makes me want to start up my own band so there would be better music in the world. Granted my opinion of good music is frontline assembly and severed heads and Dimmuborgir, I kind of doubt anyone would pay for me to make original music utilizing those influences.

[@christiangasior4244]

Hm, I consider the only really great work done by Skinny Puppy to be during the Goettel years. VIVIsectionVI was their first great album, Rabies was an interesting Ministry collaboration with too much filler. Too Dark Park and Last Rights are still ahead of time. Goettel didn't have time to bless Process with his mastery, so we have Cevin Key's simple generic Industrial Rock ever since. They try to say some good well meaning political statements, but SP is def visceral, not intellectual. I agree with a lot of their views, but I don't think their music is helping their causes much.

[@lostmedia-e6p]

Nacht Schreck You forgot to mention Too Dark Park, man..

[@lindaymohegan3529]

I thought the same. Remission is my number one. But it might be because it is the first Skinny Puppy album I ever heard, and Smothered Hope is so amazing kick ass number one. It was a time in my life I had never ever heard this type of music, and it changed me immensely. I wish I could go back. Ogre, take me back please.

[@VivianDanger]

I feel like they just kept relying on cEVIN to answer everything as the spokesperson for SP as neither Bill nor Ogre really had any response or input to the quiestions. The questions were good for sure, I just cant help feeling how uncomfortable everyone is in the room and all pretty high. If the rest of your band didnt speak up when asked questions would you take the helm? I've had to before in previous bands and always wished my comrades would do the talking as they were always much more brilliant than I... I won't go into my favorite order of SP records, but I love nearly everything up until 'Greater Wrong' and my interest took a swan dive. Not to say I don't like tracks off of some more contemporary records but I don't think I've heard a single song after 'Mythmaker'. There's something to be said about when a project has run it's course, especially considering the loss of a member who is a third of the thing and enormous element to the sound. I really agree with you though @Nacht at how different and absolutely amazing it would have been as a four piece with Leeb still in play. I love a lot of early FLA stuff as well but it always felt like his time in SP was this 'passing ships in the night' kind of romance. Sorry for rambling there, but I really like a lot of what you said here, it evoked a lot of stuff I hadn't thought about with SP in what feels like a decade. Still remain, to this day, one of my top three all time favorites... Die hard rivethead!

[@velvetbruise]

(sigh) I miss those days

[@dasmegacool]

Sadly back when I got into goth/industrial music I was 199% KMFDM. Kinda missed out on these guys at the time. I lived in OC. It's a really close minded bland place to live. Now I can't get enough of SP. I love their political views. I work at a vet hospital and their animal rights views really inspire me to do what I do. They inspire me everyday.

[@ttebroc235]

wow, wish I saw this on Tv at the time.... must have been out skating

[@mr.bhombasticfuckingfantas9645]

dude is still putting on one hell of a show its not too dark park anymore but beats the hell out of NINs new shows Ogre is boss

[@johnturtle6649]

Welt was fucking awesome for a solo project

[@darkChristian]

I love these gentlemen, they created their own reality and their own MOVEMENT they are unique unto themselves, I had my hair long black and spiked my hair to heaven just like them. I loved it! I had many girlfriends back then, I wore make-up pale and wicked Love to get back those days, A constant party everywhere I went till 95 the Pigs ruined it and made life a hell, they fanned out everybody they could, lets start another decade party maybe this time it will never end?

[@lolliwag]

Bill Leeb of Front Line Assembly & Delerium fame is in full Affect here...so freakin cool & their spiked up hair is awesum...very industrial -reminds me of Al Jourgensen in Ministry video Over The Shoulder!

[@dasmegacool]

What is your favorite Frontline Assembly album?

[@starvingbuddha7622]

Love Delerium...

[@shantytownshipwright7334]

I saw them back in the 80’s

[@jlaur06]

I wish I could have seen them in the 80’s!

[@jaxager]

@@jlaur06 I grew up in New Orleans and they, along with other industrial bands, didn't start playing New Orleans until the 90s for some reason. I got to see Skinny Puppy in 1990 for Too Dark Park when I was stationed in San Francisco. Omg. What I mind blowing show. There were a ton of people freaking out and leaving and some just straight up passing out. It was fucking phenomenal.

[@dj-um7el]

Canada produces a lotta great groups!!

[@archie.ysdays6272]

Great interview! Stan- I learned something today!!!

[@johnturtle6649]

Fuck this takes me right back to high school ..

[@performz28]

I've been a big fan since 1993! 5/27/2024

[@sonsofanarchy5316]

Puppy, great artist, Ogre✌️✌️✌️✌️, thanks for this great video, I subscribe of you

[@antigen4]

... because we share the same hair...

[@vintageragdoll1991]

Seeing them tonight! Can't fuckin wait! \m/

[@SkynetT800]

I learned about skinny puppy in 1993 my favorite song is love in vain

[@jennieanne9]

thanks for sharing

[@occult1390]

bites and remission... peak S.P

[@rafchak122]

sound track to my life.

[@d_walsh]

About to see skinny puppy tonight billed as Last tour 2023, houston TX

[@ambrsanford3703]

It's not depression, it's catharsis.

[@0ne01]

At 1:52 he talks about success as being not pushed in any one direction, but that's exactly what Al Jourgensen did when he produced Rabbies. The turmoil from that and Ogre's involvement with RevCO sowed the seeds that most certainly lead to the band's downfall in the 90s. Dwayne might have still died from his overdose, but I honestly think that if Al had just stayed away from them they wouldn't have broken up before The Process was completed because Ogre and Key's relationship would still have been strong. I love Ministry, but Jourgensen is at his roots a very toxic person.

[@0ne01]

Holy shit, KZbin knew I was referencing the video's timestamp and created a link to the specific time I quoted. That's pretty cool.

[@slipknotboy555]

I think I agree. I find it very annoying he had to be shoe-horned in and force SP into a more guitar-driven sound for Rabies, too. It kinda cheapens it, imo.

[@0ne01]

slipknotboy555 yet through it all, Warlock came from this album and it’s one of their best tracks. One of my favorites for sure. I’m just thankful that they recovered from this because IMO Too Dark Park is one of their best albums.

[@slipknotboy555]

@@0ne01 Yeah, that's true

[@vaprex]

@@0ne01 I basically fell in love with Puppy through Warlock, and then discovered the rest of their 'back catalogue'. I eventually co-formed a very puppy-esque band in my city (Raleigh, NC), with a drummer who played fully MIDI triggered sample effects. It was complete with multiple Mirage and EMAX samplers/boards stacks (I played lead keys and guitar), animated mannequins with gas masks spewing stage blood from homemade internal pump systems, custom lighting, and walls of TV monitors showing ghastly vivisection videos and other disturbing content from shock/horror films... Needless to say, it was *way* too much for the mostly conservative southern city.... We still had a shit ton of fun, and even a respectable fan base.

[@stevenkramer1975]

Static Electricity was outta control in the 80s!!!

[@johnturtle6649]

CFCs from hairspray actually, and if you think puppys bad check out sigue sigue sputnik

[@MannyMarr]

Wow they look pretty cool without a bunch of fake blood on them lol

[@distortomanipulo]

Legendary

[@eyepodwalkman6247]

I love how there didn't used to be the need to always have a big personality or be charismatic in an interview. The artists could just be natural and sincere.

[@michaelgranaldi8109]

"We would never play clubs or two sets or play cover songs unless we mutated them or something."

[@xx_blasphemer_xx8148]

Bill is just a ghost at this point 😂

[@uncleruckus3149]

"Im not an articulate person" 😅😅😅 interviewer is hilarious

[@Demention94]

Genius with hair

[@ns5070]

Damn this must be rare. How did you find this?

[@MrFers18]

That's pretty interesting, however I doubt Brian would have had any means of getting his 1985-working-at-a-cassette-store-in-Florida-self to Canada.

[@paulbyrondesfosses3356]

4:42pm 4/4/2018 birmingham alabama wednesday afternoon .... west south lawson library ... april week 1....

[@MrJpm1989]

What a waste of a perfectly great moment to speak to some amazing artists. Where did they get this guy that did the interview, Sam's club ?

[@ericbryant6097]

cey sporting the neubauten shirt I have the logo on my shoulder

[@grafdracul1804]

This is the look of goth

[@lsb2623]

GOTH!!!

[@johnturtle6649]

Industrial, actually. Goth was more the cure, and souisxie sue.

[@jhonnycagexrage7458]

@@johnturtle6649 I mean yes they are industrial but their looks and aesthetics were definitely goth inspired in the early 80s, cEvin Key said later that they were inspired by the Bat Cave scene in London, they were like the first band to look like that in Canada i think

[@johnturtle6649]

@@jhonnycagexrage7458 Well, their music was definitely industrial, thats what I was commenting on. Goth was a fashion style, not a musical one.

[@johnturtle6649]

@@jackiethedetestator7342 such as?

[@EngelbertHumperdinck86]

I like turtles.

[@80sWavrDude]

Apparently this turned into the cEVIN Key interview.

[@xmalmarkusgalileo5891]

Super Sayjans

[@frankmartell2063]

Thanks rod stewart

[@seagrey75]

Positive resolve

[@БуратиноКарлович-е7ж]

Bill Leeb super!

[@julinarist]

Is Marilyn Manson/Brian Warner the interviewer? I know he was/is a big fan of skinny puppy and he worked with localpapers, interviews and so on in the 80s before he got famous. The interviewers voice reminds me of him even tough his hair is nooot his style xD

[@Purppurahassu]

Coming a few years late, but.. Nope. I'd know the voice anywhere, his is much lower :)

[@vaprex]

I've always found it interesting that cEvin Key (Kevin Crompton) has been the "voice" of Skinny Puppy for *every* band interview I've seen, despite 'OhGr' (Kevin Ogilvie) being the vocalist & main performer / "frontman". After being a die-hard Puppy fan for over 34 years, I've always felt like the existence of the band was very akin to a Yin & Yang scenario. Where, cEvin (and later Dwayne, as well) crafted these beautifully designed horror-scapes and superbly creative drum sounds & dark heavy beats, and then handed a nearly complete "song package" to Ogre, without lyrics or even a song concept (other than perhaps some 'treatments' -- a.k.a. "samples" which maybe (probably?) were added just prior to or during post-production after Ogre added his lyrics). Ogre then took each song in whatever vocal direction he wanted to, which gave the song its ultimate "meaning" - no matter what cEvin (or Dwayne) really intended. I think in a large part this 'odd split' in the way the songs were built created the band's chaos, uncomfortable relationships, and their multiple "endings " of the band Skinny Puppy itself. I can't imagine any of their songs would have the same dark, chaotic, and often uncomfortable 'feel' if they created the songs like most bands do -- working in unison and harmony, side-by-side throughout the process.

[@chrisbryan8117]

I've bumped into a few people who went to that concert here in 1985. I'm not sure I knew it was recorded. You wouldn't happen to have the recording of the concert?

[@chrisbryan8117]

Woops, should have searched first. The concert is already on youtube.

[@alienanxiety]

It’s interesting to see these guys today, now that they got old enough to not care about putting out a fashion image and postering as unapproachable, depressed rebels. I will say though, their music was better back then.

[@Blackhalo1]

Doubtful since he would have only been 16 years old when this interview took place.

[@klik2574]

What Skinny Puppy members are being interviewed?

[@peloquin5652]

Kevin Crompton, Kevin Graham Ogilvie and Wilhelm Anton "Bill" Leeb

[@MrEasye6996]

all of their hair looks the same. but it's awesome. lol they look like Japanese anime characters.

[@kreed1004]

+Eric Albrecht Love and Rockets

[@Thesunshinesinvain]

Goku

[@theprocess4336]

More like the anime characters were influenced by them. Since Skinny Puppy was first ;)

[@headlessdisco730]

I think a lot of 80s punk/goth hairstyles were like that but I could be wrong.

[@weteagle01]

What is Cevin talking about with a documentary

[@ryderhoustonx]

'84, '85, '86

[@christiangasior4244]

It looks like they all tried to do their hair like Robert Smith and gave up in frustration and just said "close enough"

[@rainbowrotcod]

very accurate

[@jhonnycagexrage7458]

Me everyday

[@johnturtle6649]

SP was only four years older than the cure, that hairstyle was actually popular at the time, just look at the dude from the Eurythmics back then, his hair was even bigger.

[@nyokoSalome]

... ;0 and the same hair-dresser.. ;) what cigs? what beer? IMPORTANT Q'S!! ;0 p.s. even for having his face sssplitttt.. ;0 cevin is still a -handsome- specimen! ;O

[@wehavexplosiv23]

Records? Tapes? What the hell are those? ;)

[@EccoLivingLife]

Wtf do you think dumbass?

[@johnturtle6649]

Oh you know, same sorta stuff like reel to reels, DATs, and eight tracks, laserdiscs, and I think one kid was still recording on vellum.

[@stevenkramer1975]

Fat cat vs. Skinny puppy

[@TheHouseAlwaysWins20]

They look like a Crust Punk band lol

[@joseywailer7624]

Right?.....but if you didn't have something going on with your hair in the 80s,you might as well not even try. If my time machine wasn't broke I would go back and invest in bottled water and hairspray.

[@d_walsh]

Is that David Goettel to the right of cEvin?

[@RasMix1]

thats bill leeb.

[@cynthianovoselsky4772]

Theatrics??tux God Alexa

[@cynthianovoselsky4772]

Bill as well as a slew of others FLUk good Dr than innovation

[@telepylus111]

not as good as Robert Plant, but better than Slayer or Pink Floyd.

[@johnturtle6649]

we are leftists, but we anent admitting it

[@peloquin5652]

WAAY different times

[@TheHolyReality]

ahhahahahha 80s

[@alibaba4506]

What is funny with it ?

[@jadeipissedoffnow]

She was probably born in 2000 or sooner...She is clearly very immature..

[@FuckDaGovernment]

they really look skinny

[@JoshLikeCrazy]

and puppy

[@Atoxiccell]

+JoshLikeCrazy hmm

[@riverbastard666]

That hair tho

[@delhidelirium9091]

Exactly, people saw no big difference between a band like Bauhaus, Einsturzende Neubauten, Birthday Party/Nick Cave , The Cure even ... great days

[@jhonnycagexrage7458]

Teased hair