Skips case annealer V1.6 final build.

Update:10/2015
Skip here,
I am building V2.0 for those interested ( See this vid's description for further details • Skips case annealer v1... )
My DIY home made case annealer v1.6 final build.
I have a little left to do but this is pretty much it. I'm happy with it. But this is what i did for 4 hr's today with hand tool's and some power tools.
90% of parts sourced for the build come from eBay and most of it came from china. ( I know it's not the same gear i had ) If i used the same gear the build cost would of been less.
12 volt PSU ( $16 ) it's for led light strips, can use just about use any 12 volt power supply.
2x 25rpm 8mm shaft 12 volt motors ( $16) ( if your using just large cases then the 8rpm version will be better, also cheaper.
2x on/off + turn pot digi read out speed controller ( $16 ) not really needed if using just large cases but I would recommend for doing all sizes of cases.
5" ( 125mm ) cake tins ( ally ) $2 each ( I brought 4 ) $8 total
Blots+nuts ( $5 )
Everything else I had laying about to use for the build like wire,screws,liquid nails,tools to make this annealer. Tools used were a jigsaw,drill,drill bits,screwdrivers,spanner,grinder,hammer,hand files,ruler,pencil,dremmel for the finer touch ups. Mostly all tools you can find in the shed. The case feeder drum was milled out using a jig and a bench vise with a router bit on the dremil ( takes longer to do then on a mill ) it's just 50x50mm cheap plastic round bar I got for a few bucks. ( 300mmx50 $10 ) enough to make a few of them.
As to plans well no plans all off the head as I went, thanks Greg and Adam for the brainstorming. I'm happy how this turned out, now just for the finer touches. But this is the final build for me :)
For about $60 you can build your own auto annealer. But it's about $20 to built the manual feed like my first video.
So you can go and build your own annealer for cheap and with a bit of time on your hand's. Or you can spend big $$$ on a factory built one.
Again i want to thank Mr Longrange for his inspiration on the annealer and to the guy's on our forum. Loved working on this project it's been fun.... But now she is almost done. :)
If you would like to read and see more.... Visit us at www.shootingaustralia.net

[@robinsnodgrass260]

I decided to build mine with a single motor, a timing belt and 3 geared pulleys....this keeps everything in perfect time.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Robin Snodgrass be interesting to see how yours turned out, link to vid

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Skip here, I am building V2.0 for those interested ( See this vid's description for further detailskzbin.info/www/bejne/Zl6mXpxmgNdloLc )

[@fastr144]

you should just make some and sell some =] i'd love one of these but dont have the time to make one

[@Aceref1]

Thanks Skip. Just the info I needed. Assembly to commence shortly.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Steve Fenech all the best with your build.

[@redrumm101]

Very impressive. One of the best home built ones i have seen so far.

[@dannywarren1549]

I'd love to build my own... but this type of thing is where I'm f hopeless... a build video would be so awesome champ

[@poorbobbascaraquet2567]

simplicity at it's finest...keep up the great work love it!!

[@seabeeaj9698]

Greetings Skip, frist off im very impressed with your ingenuity. This build is absolutely incredible, yet very simple in design. You have beaten the big boys at there game. This design is much more efficient and affordable than the four and five hundred dollar machines. please if you would make a list of all materials and part numbers needed to purchase to build. I love the fact that you can load it up and let it run, nothing like the flat wheel where you have to consantly feed it brass. Good o

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

A.J. Schilli Hi Mate There is a build thread in the link and posted the material's a number of time's. Also there are a few Yanky forum's that have started build thread's and also posted vid's of there build's. Some have also posted up better instruction's/documented build's. Just google DIY case annealer. There will be a number's of forum's and build's. Regards Skip

[@michaeltaggart9940]

Very nice build - I like your automation add-ons I'm going to build one myself, in fact have ordered much of the materials. Only difference, I'll use a metal enclosure. Thanks for the great video and ideas!!

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Michael Taggart thanks, have a great build. That’s the thing with DIY, make it your own.

[@68pitty]

Finally got around 2 watching it Skip, nice job !

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Pitty Mark Hey Pitty, Glad you liked it ;) BB has a sister that's bigger and a bit more updated V2.0 ;)

[@68pitty]

Thanks mate. Look forward to watching it.👍

[@juliusjames5577]

Good video ! Cheers mate!

[@paltryengineer]

Awesome job mate, bit more refined than the biscuit tin. I Might have to knock up something similar myself Good stuff.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

LOL The biscuit tin did the job alright for awhile LOL. But yes this one is nicer :) I might even give it a lick of paint yet to tart it up a bit more :D LOL I've gotta scrounge up a bit of plate to make the back over and seat the digital read out's and the turn pot's and on?off switches. But i think that's it for me on making the annealing machine's. Ive got two drum's 1x 50mm thick ( for doing large cases ) and 1x 35mm thick ( the silver ally drum's "Cake tins " ) for doing smaller cases like .223 - .308 . I just have to change the case feeder drum ( The white drum you see feeding case's ) for running .223 and everything else run's with the .308 case feeder drum. When i run my larger cases like 300 win mag i just use the larger case drum.

[@paltryengineer]

SKIPPYISAAUSSIE I like it, looks like a winner mate, quick question for you, how were you getting your speeds and feeds for proper annealing? just use some of that tempilaq gear and record the settings on the digital read out? Ive had a bit of a play myself with a deep socket, blow torch and some old scrap brass but it felt a bit hit and miss and I was certainly never game to put my Lapua brass through. If i still had acess to a machine shop at work with a decent mill and indexing head i might have made something more like the commerical machines out there but since im back to limited equipment that design looks to be the ticket, just need to slot a piece of nylon and bore it for a shaft. Youve certainly given me something to think about. Cheers mate

[@crosstimbers2]

I have been using 4 seconds with the same distance you use for about 20 years.

[@Annealeez]

HI Skip, just wanted you to know you were my inspiration to make my machine, thank you very much.. also, I have a DIY version, made out of a wood box, that will be posted on the website as soon as the engineering drawings are complete. Thank you for all of your positive comments. I hope you don't view this message as spam, I didn't make it a public message. I won't bother you anymore..

[@UltimateArms]

how did you attach the drums to the motors??

[@captainron8231]

Great job bud... I've been trying to figure out how to build an inexpensive annealer? I'm just going to copy yours as it's really cool! Thanks a ton for sharing everything you did to get there....

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

No problem mate, got a few more diy's in the pipe line to come in the new year :)

[@EndingTimes0]

I've got 2000 556 brass to anneal... I'll definitely be making one of these lol. Did about 50 by hand and said no way.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Squid Master you’ll knock em out in no time. Most I e done in a single sitting was 223,300blkout,17 Fireball. 3000 cases

[@Darkhalfcustoms]

Nice

[@UltimateArms]

how many amps is that power supply

[@uechikid8088]

Nice job. Where did you get the white plastic rollers.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Don't know exactly where you can source them. But they are just acital,delrin,nylon,pvc extruded machinable plastic bar stock. EBay, machinest suppliy shop etc you can source. A fellow Aussie named Cheng has done a cheap machine available in some countries he has suppliers in the US. It's called the ugly annealer. He is supplying nicely built machines for the same cost as I was building them for when I made v2 of black Betty annealers.

[@TehBr0]

Very smart!

[@unapro3]

Mate, what a brilliant setup. I was watching a few of the shop bought ones and I was thinking there had to be an easier way, then I found yours, love it. Does your missus know you cut her cake tins??

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

unapro3 haha yer not her cake tins, I actually have some for parts bins when I am pulling small components to bits for fix or repair. But she did swipe a few when I had brought another lot

[@cogunlover5550]

Very nice!!

[@omnivore2220]

Brilliant, mate! Really first class idea. But why the two motors? Why not one motor driving two identical pulleys or sprockets, so the two rotors always stay in time with one another? Surely there’s no point in having them rotate at different rates.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

It's been mentioned time and time again. It was just for the simplistically. Without having to make standoffs, pulleys belts bearings etc. The later version added just a inductive sensor that turned the feeder drum off and worked off the single pwm.

[@nathanhudelson4935]

Is there any bearing supporting the pieces on front, or are the directly on motor shaft?

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Directly on the shafts the motors have bearings already. I just made my bits shouldered so they used the whole shaft. How you go about it, is entirely up too you mate 👍

[@nathanhudelson4935]

@@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE thanks appreciate the help

[@U812GREEN]

Why not belt drive feeder (o ring) 1:1 and use one speed controller, reduce the cost by one readout and motor? Just a thought. Great design!

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

U812GREEN watch other vids ;) of its progression

[@eliphantvideo]

I like your design. Why did you use two motors rather than one motor with both drums tied together with gears or a belt in order to insure that they stay in sync?

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Hi Mate It was just ease of build, If i wanted to wait longer for more part's from china then i would of went the belt and or chain drive. I have another build planned for the winter. But at the moment im happy with mine, Good luck with your build how ever you approach it. Skip

[@njneer7511]

Great work! Love it. One question. Ive seen various vids of similar builds and a lot have the same white rotary block that grabs a case from the auto feeder. What is that and where can I get one?

[@Later2u]

Looks to me to be white delrin/acetal?

[@njneer7511]

Thanks thats what a few people noted as well. Not cheap though.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

erik e You could make it out of timber if you want to save a bit, I've seen a few builds like that. or you could go and get yourself a off cut from a machinist shop some will most likely give it to you a off cut or scrap for free, Plenty of ways to skin a cat. Just limited by your imagination

[@thevacuumtubejunky9774]

Very nice, I like your design over the "Annealeeze" which is extremely "LOUD and ANNOYING", and expensive to boot. Great job. Where did you aquire the two electric motors if you don't mind me asking?. kind regards! Eric Dee.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Eric Dee eBay Upgraded motor is the 10 rpm worm gear 12vdc the one in vid is a 25rpm 8mm shaft 12vdc

[@thevacuumtubejunky9774]

SKIPPYISAAUSSIE " thank you for your time in response. your design is superior to the "Annealeeze" in my opinion, keep up the great work, and thank you for sharing. good luck to you in the future. I would like to see your design on the market. you take pride in your craftsmanship. Kind regards! Eric Dee.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Eric Dee If I wanted to market it, I wouldn't of made it open source and gave it freely out to the world. Just proves you don't need to spend mega bucks on a tool to do a simple job. With a little time and some tools you can build your own auto annealer for $100. Now I do make V2.0 see the other vids. In my spare time for local guys and have made parts for people who are local Aussies, kiwis area. I don't make it for free, I do charge a hobby rate for that.

[@nosecret999]

brilliant!!!

[@johnhorton720]

Are the motors brushless? I have two gear drive 10 RPM motors. to build on. What is the pan you used.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

5"

[@dougkapounek9024]

Hi, Could you please tell me were you got your parts ( Motors, Power Suppl and Speed Controllers ) I would also like to build my own. The price some company's are asking is ludicrous.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Hello. Please read the description and comments on the vids. You will get your answers your looking for. Also google is your friend. There are many of these out there that people have built since i made my first. All have there own twists, perks, negatives. Skip

[@geraldmichrina4529]

Skip is it? Skip your freaking brilliant. Any idea if you are going to make the plans available for those of us who are DIY people/shooters? I would love to build this. It looks as effective as the commercial models yet so much simpler. Simple and effective is the playing field for genius.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

There are plans available, also others that have built the same or similar are also documenting there builds. Like the guys on AR15com and livingoutdoors here on you tube built a good one and well documented build, better then how i could document it. :) Good lick with your build.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Plans are on the internet and also on our forum see description. Plenty of copy's out there and some with there own twist. Few other forums have also there own build threads on the annealer. Thanks Skip

[@markboon5]

Hi Skip, It looks awsome. Can you please provide me with some measurments? And the backboard, is that mounted backward to elt the cases not fall of the spinningwheel? how much degree backwards is it? I want to make one for all case dimensions as i have different calibers. Would be nice if you could send me some data.., like also the measurments and places on the board. Thank you greetings from Holland Mark

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Everything is posted in the forum, or you can visit other sites that have taken on the build. Many clones have been built all over the world, each have there own marks. Skip

[@user-hk7ob8ri2b]

I love it. Great work. Do you know if this would work well for .300 blackout? I ask because the blackout cases are smaller and can overheat easily. Thanks in advance. Keep up the awesome ingenuity.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Cut drum to suit. Smallest case ive done is 22 hornet

[@user-hk7ob8ri2b]

+SKIPPYISAAUSSIE Thank you. Can't tell you how excited I got when I found this video. Great thinking.

[@michaeltaggart9940]

What Diameter did you use foir your nylon roller that picks up the brass from the feed chute? Thanks

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Hi mate I used 40x45mm for mine but the one's i have made up for a few guy's on the forum is 50x50mm ( It's a double slot for both sized case's ) I have added screw's to act as stopper's and that can be swapped around should you switch from small - Large case's If you are interested it's all written here on our forum ( You will have to join to see though ) shootingaustralia.net/forum/roll-your-own/9587-skip-s-case-annealer-black-betty

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Mine 40 mm for others 50mm

[@fmsol08]

Where did you buy the 50x50mm cheap plastic round bar? I see a few places online but it is $20+

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

I got the round bar from a mate ( off cuts bin ) from his shop. If your kind enough they might give it to you for free. If no machine shops close by, try Ebay, you can get off cuts cheap enough.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

I found a heap on ebay from a cnc shop that had them up for sale ( offcuts ) which i brought and then machined up for the local aussie guys in the group buy.

[@Madmick82]

Taking orders? lol. Top work mate

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Sorry mate no order's this is a DIY kinda deal. It's simple enough to make, almost all of it can be made with hand tool's.

[@Aceref1]

Hi skip, any guidance on wiring up the motors and their respective controllers?

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Hi mate The digital controllers used in the build of v1.6 came pre wired with the turn pot and on/off button. ( not bad for $8 ) Only really need to connect the -+ to the controller and the -+ to the power supply. 3mm auto cable will do fine red for positive and black for negative. As for the AC power, a sparky should do it. Im not liable should you decide to wire the ac too dc up yourself. Each country is different like in Aus, its green yellow ( ground ) red ( positive ) black ( negative ), yanks have different colour cable codes. You don't need a lot of power to run both motors and controllers, you could find a dc power supply that runs off mains then you could just cut the cable and connect the +- cable to the controllers. Or another option is a small 12v battery to run it off. ( plenty of ways to skin a cat ) just have to find a way that suits your needs.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Anti clockwise. If using the same. Wire up power to controller correctly then from controller too motor switch it around. ( you can pause the vid ) you might see the wires how i have it wired up.

[@Aceref1]

Skip, could you please let me know what size tin you used for the drum?

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Its all in the build thread.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

5" cake tin ( ally ) from china $2 each.

[@aceprecision1681]

Skip, love engineering and utilitarian abilities, but not to state the bloody obvious .........wouldn't it be easier and more cost effective to buy another box of cases ?

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Depending on how much you shoot! For me i shoot a lot, also i have some hard to source/find and expensive brass. I anneal for brass life, also consistency in the brass. Example: Aid's in groupings, also a much lower ES and SD spreads. Different strokes for different blokes, anneal or don't the choice is up to the user. Skip

[@cafux78]

+Ace Precision its cheaper to reload your own ammunition, you have to buy all the stuff, but any way is cheaper

[@1BeGe]

...no?

[@mr.chisels729]

Hey Skip, Thanks for he great Video! Can you please tell me what the diameter of the two cups (brass feed cup & annealing cup) are? Thanks from Canada!

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

5" cake tin and the case feeder ( mine is 40mm ) ones i made for others in the group buy of some parts for aussie locals i made outta 50mm

[@robinsnodgrass260]

how did you find center for the hole in the cake pan? my little lathe (harbor freight) is not big enough to grab the outside....any ideas?

[@bigbear4x43]

can you post what you got on ebay and what im looking for to get what you got exactly

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

See build thread or search the web. Many sites and vids on this build and some like it now days. Infos there, if your willing to look.

[@royvketringiii5439]

Would it be possible to give us the dimensions of the Case

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

No, but if you go googling I have had that info pasted all over the Web and on a few sights as to the build and future builds like 2.0 etc. There's a massive thread on AR15. Com

[@Puggernaught24]

Wish I had the skills to build this

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

David Navarrete I’m sure you’ll do fine, diy means you can make it anyway you like and take as long as you like building it.

[@MrAwsomeshot]

what size and rpm motors did you use?

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

5" cake tin $2 25rpm motor $8 from china

[@cafux78]

whats the diameter and the speed of turn of the wheel? please answer

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

5" drum, 25rpm motor.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

5" drum, 25rpm motor.

[@charleshetrick3152]

...why is everything $16 dollars?

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Thought it was self explanatory. In the video. Because at the time of buying and building it with shipping that's what I spent on buying the perticular components. Your mileage may vary,

[@frank64409]

Hello Skip. Would you be interested in selling this as a kit ? Just the required parts and a schematic diagram for assembling. Thank you!

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Hi Mate Sorry i am not making part's for this build. It's a DIY deal, the plan's and such are on the forum to build your own "Black Betty " :) There are a number of forum's and build's of the same annealer on youtube and on other shooting forum's. There is one bloke that has done a fantastic job on detailing his build for him and his forum, you'll find his annealer posted up here on youtube in the last few month's. Good luck with your build.

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

Sorry mate no plans on making a kit form. This is DIY, plenty of copy's of the build and build threads on the Internet. Some really neat builds and great little add ons also by others. I wish for this to remain open source for all. To gain access to a cheap auto annealer. Thanks.

[@MrBenski81]

Nice work bud!!! You in Vic yet?

[@MrBenski81]

+SKIPPYISAAUSSIE sure is bud 👍

[@SKIPPYISAAUSSIE]

+MrBenski81 Send me a pm through the forum, i'll give was a buzz on the blower :)

[@MrBenski81]

+SKIPPYISAAUSSIE I'll do it tonight bud. at work atm 👍

[@maxcoatlhunter4322]

Sell me one!