Skyrim: 5 Unsettling Mysteries You May Have Missed in The Elder Scrolls 5 (Part 16) Skyrim Secrets

Skyrim and indeed the entire universe in which The Elder Scrolls 5 exists can be a very strange and mysterious place. A realm of magic, odd creatures and supernatural events, it seems anywhere we look in Skyrim, there's bound to be unanswered questions or difficult to explain phenomenon. Mysteries are however, capable of being quite interesting and fun to investigate. So, that's what we're setting out to do today as we explore five more unsettling mysteries you may have missed in The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim.

[@GrandSupremeDaddyo]

I love Tiber Septim lore. He's basically a player character made canon: Shows up out of nowhere, wins every battle, has a random superpower. I think he just went to the emperor to turn in a quest, tried to see if he could kill him, and then realised he hadn't saved in days so had to keep the save going.

[@genderenigma8276]

...I will support this theory with all of my save files.

[@samjones3185]

I, as a fellow dragonborn, can 100% agree

[@carl6780]

I thought you were going to mention one thing, he achieved CHIM. He basically became aware that he was in a dream (game)

[@seelcudoom1]

i mean one common theory is he literally is the player characters, with him and all the player characters just being manifestations of the same oversoul

[@johnd.rockefeller4041]

In their tongue, he is *SPAM ALL THE FOOD IN DAT INVENTORY* kiin....

[@neotheresa]

“A certain annoying Thalmor” that really doesn’t narrow it down

[@Slim2Flo]

😂😂

[@fahxxu4467]

@@kaleidoscope19 Lets not get too hasty there

[@Nami8302_OwO]

@@kaleidoscope19 Yeah I agree, Nazeem deserves to die more than anyone

[@silentxwxlf]

He's referring to ancano

[@acidisprettygood205]

neotheresa ancano

[@sagevoyage]

"No male hagravens-- save for my father in law" lmao

[@adarshkamoda9183]

One of the most powerful destruction spells to have ever been rumored of.

[@kamaunosakhere5487]

It cut to an ad right after and I thought that was his mic drop

[@auru1325]

Nice one but in what dungeons do you find these words it seems they could defeat Alduin and I need to do that

[@ashleynaidoo845]

Um what soul gems do hagravens take again..

[@nedimmrsic4650]

Dragonrend right here.. ..and by dragon i ment mother in law..

[@cooperdennis-smith3284]

“If you’re going to kill people, at least learn how to do it right.” -Gallus, probably

[@AaronDCosta-wk3en]

Based 😂

[@seth1130]

"You killed someone so I'm going to make you live with killers as punishment" Ok Gallus

[@heratha3951]

Skyrim +Logic =Error

[@StacieMMeier]

He wasn't punishing him though, he was protecting him. However, the game does give a better hint if you read between the lines. He is a master fencer, thus it is more likely, Dark Brotherhood used him for gaining special info and being able to move items that they couldn't do themselves. I also don't believe when he says it is like what happed to the Dark Brotherhood, he meant he was betrayed, just that the Dark Brotherhood was betrayed and they were, that's how many of them got wiped out, before Skyrim. He is giving you background info that you couldn't get elsewhere.

[@timtim6373]

Stacie Meier that makes a lot more sense.

[@joshuakim5240]

I'm pretty he did that as a bit of "shock therapy", as in mental shock rather than electrical shock. So it's more like Gallus saying: "You killed someone? I'll show you what happens if you continue to do so by making you live with the most depraved and fucked up murderers of all time to scare you out of ever killing again."

[@WillowIsSleepy]

Leave Gallus alone he's best boi

[@aurochtamer]

I love that Delvin's reaction to you, if you're Guild Master, if you approach him on Dark Brotherhood business is basically just: "You're making friends all over, huh Boss?"

[@SebasTian58323]

Such a shame it's so annoying to actually become guild master for the thieves guild

[@XGrimzukiX]

@@SebasTian58323 their quest line really longer than the main quest line

[@turbofanlover]

@@SebasTian58323 I didn't think it was annoying at all. I really enjoyed the journey. :)

[@starmanda88]

@@turbofanlover same!

[@JokeCubed]

The fact that Sissel seems to be having 'visions' or 'dreams' about Paarthurnax and Alduin just adds to the intrigue. If you speak to Sissel there is the chance that she'll mention having a dream about two dragons, one, black and evil, one white and friendly. Maybe she has some sort of magical powers already and Jouanne is aware of that and is teaching her to control them.

[@giorgosthoma849]

Theres a theory that saids that she a backup dragonborn incase our character faill

[@decimation9780]

giorgos thoma Perhaps, although from all known information about the Dragonborn, they are not aware they will be one, and there are no outward indications about them possibly being one either. Only the current Dragonborn becomes aware of his power, and that usually tends to be the case until his death, mind you there have only been a handful of Dragonborn within The Elder Scrolls as well.

[@lordodysseus]

She might be in TES: VI as part of a side questline.

[@mayuzumiandme]

@D M creation club gets so much flak but i love being able to basically use mods and still grind achievements

[@pinkwings8036]

I always adopt Sissel, protect the little dragon girl.

[@sagarsarkar3941]

Yesterday, I found out that those innocent, peaceful REINDEER creatures in skyrim , who run away when you approach, actually attacks you when you put COURAGE spell on them. Oh skyrim, you are amazing.

[@StarlitSeafoam]

So THAT'S how I can hunt without using a bow. Nice, thanks.

[@lt-ug2pz]

so do bunnies iirc, but they just hop at you

[@madisonsosa21]

Easy way to hunt, yay

[@LnPPersonified]

"It seems there are no male hagravens in the world...save for my father in law." Daaaaamn! Better hope he don't watch your videos.

[@tylerbowers7658]

Pokerface I need a time stamp

[@estellevu8076]

@@tylerbowers7658 15:05

[@BadSageAdvice]

It’s a mystery in a video about mysteries

[@xxvaltielxx1789]

Since Nate is a Daedra he can always escape to his own plane

[@dalion-asn]

@Pokerface plot twist: Nate doesn't have a father-in-law

[@jimbean5962]

The true mystery who shot the arrow that ended a certain guards adventuring

[@yugitrump435]

It was I, Biggus Dickus

[@buttsagonton101]

@@yugitrump435 *LE* *GASP*

[@014Darkness]

not one, but all of them

[@someoneontheinternet1317]

The Blades.

[@haileyjade207]

An “arrow to the knee” basically means he got married 😁

[@ImaginaryTerrie3]

Damn it, Delvin! You're not supposed to kill anyone! You're promoted to Dark Brotherhood. Get out of my sight! Congratulations!

[@mecanwinmac2796]

U gay

[@saturn1594]

@@mecanwinmac2796 duh bitch? everyone who plays skyrim is gay

[@Abigail-qv9wg]

@@saturn1594 I'm Demi-Bi...

[@oldaccount2275]

Ok I have no idea wtf the replies to this comment are, so I'll just say what replies are supposed to be used for, and say that this comment is genuinely funny.

[@anonymousalien7417]

@@oldaccount2275 Damn, a normal person on KZbin? Shut up and take my money

[@GrandSupremeDaddyo]

That conversation in Rorikstead always made me uncomfortable. Really it's wholesome: teaching a child magic safety. But all I hear is "hey kid don't tell your parents what we do when we meet in secret or we'll get in trouble okay?"

[@matthewpaddon3895]

I just beat up the children's' father then, thanks to Amazing Follower Tweaks, took them away to Breezehome to look after them instead. Pretty satisfying tbh.

[@MadeOfHamm]

Yeah it really sounds like an old man who's grooming a child, it's so uncomfortable 😬

[@ChthonianDreams]

Eh, I think he recognizes her potential and Nords typically distrust magic. Also her father is abusive, and her sister treats her poorly too. I think his intentions are good.

[@Gibinhafilho]

"maybe i'll teach you how to put the candles out..." that creeps me out so much!

[@stevieschafer5689]

The dialogue for this convo sounds very wrong. I wonder if the writers intended it to have those overtones.

[@timtim6373]

I always assumed the reason Astrid had connections to the thieves guild was because she was once a member. I mean she doesn’t really seem like brotherhood material she’s too interested in personal gain than serving the night mother.

[@bloodsweatandbeers4684]

1. How Lydia survives being shouted off Throat of the world.

[@yugitrump435]

Could she be a demigod? It seems like it to me.

[@someoneontheinternet1317]

And how come the Greybeards can survive being thrown off High Hrothgar?

[@valtyrvideo4794]

If that actually happened it’s probably the game despawning her before she hits the ground.

[@bloodsweatandbeers4684]

@@valtyrvideo4794 Yes that's pretty much what happens. She's also essential as a follower.

[@KudaKeileon]

She's not Essential, she's Protected. She'll only die if the player lands the killing blow, and while shouting her off a high place is your doing, you don't actually do the last bit of damage to her.

[@yiasemi]

The spookiest clue about Rorikstead is when Jouane and Rorik talk Rorik: "Looks like we're in for quite a harvest. We've had better luck with our planting than any village in the hold." Jouane: "Luck? I think it has more to do with the hard work and good soil." Rorik: "Maybe you're right. Even so, I can't help wondering if some other force is at work here." Hmmm and why is Rorikstead mentioned in 1st and 2nd era books. Well, I'll be leaving now, before the sun goes down and the wickerman comes out.

[@hukares5363]

Sanguine is the Daedric lord of Bounty, or harvest, and you go there during his quest. Maybe that plays into it.

[@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong]

@@hukares5363 Sanguine granting Rorikstead constant plenty so he has a place he can reliably send randos on benders through for a laugh is now what I firmly believe happens

[@offendersofficial]

*Murdered to death*

[@mgunter]

Give a Phoenix Down to an undead an they'll be murdered to life.

[@squeeger]

I see youre a man of culture as well

[@short0811]

mgunter +1

[@RissAwesome]

Literally my favorite thing Nate always says lol

[@heavenbot]

I like how you skirted around spoilers as best as you could while talking about the Brotherhood questline, but jumped straight to major spoilers for the Thieves Guild questline. Stay detailed, Nate 🙂

[@SwooshJush83]

This game has been out for like 9 years if people are still worried about spoilers then that’s on them

[@MrNash1991]

I’m pretty sure every human on earth has played Skyrim at least once. Lol

[@xanderhenthorn596]

@@MrNash1991 I only fully played through it a few years ago🤣. Finished DB quite a few times first, the Mage's guild three times, and I can't count how many times I did the Thieve's guild. But the main questline was always too boring.

[@frostmagemarii]

@@someoneontheinternet1317 But it's the only part that matters.

[@Ravathiel]

@@someoneontheinternet1317 go back to your sand rock, none cares

[@dejavu8982]

"The Imperials think us all lawless beasts. I'm proof of their ignorance."

[@ea.d5485]

@@pasco1182 stormcloaks guards or any guard against the empire

[@hj6507]

@@pasco1182 dude you were literally given the answer. ANY GUARD OR SOLDIER WITH A STORM CLOAK ALLIANCE WLL SAY THAT AS RANDOM DIALOG. Don't be so dense

[@ryanrobinson2522]

pasco none of them bud it ain't about orcs chill out

[@weskintime4177]

@@pasco1182 random unnamed ones ya dunce

[@brianroberts783]

What about the fact that even though Rorik claims to have founded Rorikstead a couple decades ago it's mentioned in tests going back centuries.

[@classydays43]

And that one horse theif at the beginning said he grew up in Rorikstead despite him being in his forties... Something doesn't add up about that place

[@marhawkman303]

@@classydays43 Nate mentioned that in another video. Something doesn't add up, but it almost makes sense if you take "founded" to mean "rebuilt". IE the town got wiped out and he built a new one, and it 's a coincidence they have the same name.

[@classydays43]

@@marhawkman303 Could also be that old man Rorik named himself after the town, or that the town was subject to some time warp - the town we know could be exactly the same, including its people, for many years.

[@marhawkman303]

@@classydays43 Yeah, there's a variety of potential explanations.

[@exantiuse497]

It has a logical explanation. The ancient Rorikstead was quite famous, since it's mentioned in the songs, so Rorik decided to name his home after the ancient location. Pretty much the same as if someone in the real world called Ben founded a hotel or something and named it "Big Ben" after the bell in London, it's just a bad pun

[@chrisppx]

The most unsettling mystery is why I don’t get to the cloud district very often

[@winslowwidd79]

Nazeem in the far distant, "Somebody pick that damn phone up, cause I called it!"

[@offendersofficial]

how did my comment get hearted but yours didnt

[@chrisppx]

memeboi 69 idk bro

[@spicybeantofu]

Funny enough Im up there using the enchanting table all the time.

[@alvesrei5357]

We don't get to the Cloud district very often, but we get to the Throat of the World very often. How about that, Nazeem? 😎👍

[@MLPDethDealr32]

Nate, dont forget though, Sissel is the one that was having dreams about Parthurnaax.

[@aaronbouck7730]

My theory of Delvin's relations with the Dark Brotherhood implies that, as he said, he has witnessed a takeover like in the Thieves Guild before, meaning that Astrid may have killed the previous Brotherhood leader to influence the guild in her own way when Delvin was there.

[@bekywise7245]

I've noted that vampires and people in close contact with vampires all have copies of the book Immortal Blood. I'm assuming it is set as a foreshadowing to the quests and/or hideouts as I have also noticed that specific books pertaining to quests are also in or near areas needed to go to recieve said quests or complete a section of them.

[@RevenantGaming2077]

Found this channel a month or two ago and have been binge watching every video on the channel and of course every new video added and I got to say this is hands down the most compete and entertaining KZbin channel I’ve ever seen in my life from production, editing, content and commentary everything is spot on! Every video is interesting and enjoyable and nothing seems overused or out of place. I can’t praise this channel or it’s creator enough absolutely fantastic work Nate!

[@user-hd7xw9jm9q]

Nate: "We'll be spending 12-15 minutes" Video: *goes almost 20 minutes*

[@WinterPains]

Damn, I'm a bit late but I just commented the same thing a few minutes ago.

[@Wh1ffK1ng]

@@WinterPains I'm about two years later, but it's a shame he couldn't stretch out 10 more seconds of content.

[@whenthemusicsover6028]

Seriously, how DID they manage to transport the Eye Of Magnus out of Saarthal?

[@James11111]

Magic

[@metetural9140]

Magic? I mean Vivec was able to stop a meteor, not saying any of those fuckwits from the college are as good as Vivec, not by a long shot.

[@metetural9140]

@Thibault Derese I would say 99% of House Telvanni agrees with my message

[@Toolgirl64209]

Maybe it’s able to be compressed into a smaller size like the dragon orbs (if I’m remembering that right) from Dragonlance.

[@retnaningheryuanti6008]

Tied it with a rope and walked it, like a dog, a flying dog

[@VerbalDroppings]

I always thought Delvin sounded kind of like Jason Statham

[@brycethegamer7794]

I love you progressively started stating the fact that you are running out of things to say for the intro

[@chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266]

* *Heavy breathing* * Sorry I'm late.

[@charlieclark9552]

You ran your stamina all the way down

[@chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266]

@@charlieclark9552 A small price to pay for a Nate video.

[@ArturoPladeado]

Your fucking profile picture with that name.

[@solitudeguard5688]

ArturoPladeado 😂

[@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy]

If you enter the house in late evening, you can also watch Jouane teaching Sissel.

[@PogromcaDeszczu]

could you at least knock? xd

[@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy]

I would knock, but I specialise in the redistribution of wealth, because people are always misplacing their valuables.

[@rogerw5299]

For the Dark Brotherhood/Thieves Guild one, I think that it might be more of the favoured method for assassins of literal backstabbing. Almost a dark humor joke.

[@nikosetyris]

"Except my father in law", heh.

[@dragonriderabens9761]

“There are no hagravens in this world...save for my father in law” First off, how long have you been married for Nate, and secondly, best hope he doesn’t see this video XD

[@Tautolonaut]

Strange, that a running theme in Skyrim is one of leaders of factions disrespecting traditions and eventually dragging the -company- I mean, faction into disrepute... (Not as strange as my use of grammar here, though)

[@James11111]

So the question then is Who's gonna be the new guy at Bethesda who quickly rises through the ranks and overthrows Todd?

[@mransdell9420]

shadowthehh2 The Ulfric of Bethesda

[@Xolcm]

Whereas Kodlak is the opposite.

[@Tautolonaut]

@@Xolcm Yeah, I feel bad including Kodlak in the above, but he did still want to break with tradition, so it kind of works.

[@Xaveston]

I still prefer Astrid over Mercer, least she gets what she did wrong. Mercer went out blaming you and Karliah

[@Matt-md5yt]

the Talos thing seems like a Propaganda a Thalmor would say, Him being a bad guy and Murdering his King and taking the throne.

[@TheHornedKing_27]

Yup

[@belland_dog8235]

I mean let's not act like the Nords are saints here, they're really fucked up. The Thalmor just make them look good because they're racist genocidal maniacs

[@drewkaufmann8726]

@@belland_dog8235 you mean really hecked up

[@whenthemusicsover6028]

Murdring his King _to death_ you mean. :)

[@James11111]

I read a theory awhile ago about how all 3 of Talos' personalities came up with the plan. Made sense to me.

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

Of course there are no male hagravens. They’d be called geezercrows. 😉

[@TearfulMoon]

We need this in the game

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

Tearful Moon I hereby release this idea to any and all modders who want to have a crack at it. Don’t fail me, Nexus. 😆

[@shannonmoore9981]

Hey I'll take a crack at that mod. Might be a while though, still trying to fix my computer

[@Hawkeye-cm2pv]

That actually doesn't sound too bad...

[@TheBernito2]

You need 3 witches to form a convent so they can turn into Hagravens, there are references to that in letters and dialogs. Hagravens also apear to be the ones turning Forsworn warriors into BriarHeart so these are not different energies.

[@princessbinas]

I am curious about how the process of pregnancy and giving birth goes for female werewolves depending on whether or not they shift.

[@a.sandvliet5102]

good question

[@craig7021]

I just started my Skyrim playthough today. I love this game! Been uploading the past few hours.

[@adarshkamoda9183]

Welcome to the crew. May I suggest the following KZbin channels: Fudgemuppet (for lore and builds of not only the Elder Scrolls and Skyrim), Camelworks (to find unique weapons and items, investigate various mysteries, and more) and of course, Nate. This trio is brilliant for Skyrim. Wind guide you.

[@wanderingedge]

my theory about Delvin is that its possible that maybe Delvin fell in love with Astrid and she wasn't married at the time, its possible the betrayal was Arnbjorn stealing his girl

[@JMulvy]

of all the DB members Arnbjorn scares me too.

[@Cyberwaddles]

I thought that too

[@andrews6411]

I saw this temple on top of a small mountain north eastish of markarth. I managed to hop my way all the way up there just to find its surrounded by an invisible wall. I'd call that pretty spooky. It's just across the river from a mine I cant remember the name of. Its overrun by forsworn. Edit: its Kolskeggr Mine and the location I spoke of is on the island just southeast of the mine.

[@nachocheese3216]

thats skyhaven temple, where the "Alduin's Wall" part of the main quest takes place.

[@asluckdespairs]

Maybe the rorikstead mage "teaching" the young girl magic in secret is a way for him to perform a ritual on her (and all young women before child birthing age) to prepare her to be sacrificed without her realizing she is a target of his magic/rituals. It seems like a great way to keep the victims quiet and willing to participate. Pretend that it's their little secret from the village so the girls wont raise any suspicions towards him, AND under the guise of magic lessons theyd willingly walk in and participate in magical rituals the dont understand. My last point is REALLY stretching but teaching her to "put out candles"... how many times have we seen in movies someone sitting in the middle of a ritual surrounded by candles and when some dark evil spirit shows up ominous stuff starts happening including all the candles getting put out. :o

[@Anthony-qt8cw]

Petition to make me the new courier for Skyrim

[@ModdingNewbie]

Lol

[@yugitrump435]

Seconded.

[@mainaccount3087]

Caught Benny yet?

[@maki49574]

I'm fed up with your ex!

[@Zeivusgaming]

3:57 - I thought it was a nod to Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood quest line.

[@billykidman2091]

I guess he didn't want to Delve into details

[@lacorneillenoire6421]

For the Hagravens, i've always supposed that the ones that made a pact with hircine became werewolves if they were male and hagravens if they were females. Maybe that's it ? Weel, there is the case of Aela but we can suppose she just drank the blood of others werewolves, like we do, instead of meeting Hircine in personn.

[@sandrynvd6003]

That's a good theory you got there...

[@lacorneillenoire6421]

@@sandrynvd6003 Thank you !

[@nishcheta885]

M'aiq was once sent to a different space, one with many lights, and who did he find there, but the ancient dwemer! Sadly, M'aiq could not understand a word they said.

[@c-puff]

Isn’t it also possible Delvin meant “it’s the dark brotherhood all over again” in that he wasn’t responsible for accidentally committing murder but was framed for it, sending him to the dark brotherhood as a scapegoat for something he didn’t do? Much like how the current thieves guild leader got himself where he is. Maybe he did this kind of trick before and Delvin was just the fall guy at the time.

[@frankstarfyre]

Yo!! I'm doing another play through of Skyrim, so I head to Riften specifically to give Ingun BlackBriar them 60 damn ingredients. So for maybe the first time I paid attention to what she says and it seems this young lady is asspiring to join the Dark Brotherhood. she says something about "wanting to ply her trade in darker circles". I wish I could recruit her. Pretty neat.

[@JuanGomez-ri9ok]

Damn!

[@evanklingman9493]

I've always thought of the eye of magnus as a giant battery because the only way to manage the power was to put it through a conduit capable of it like the eye of magnus witch calmed it down but charges up when hit directly

[@_m4tty_]

I feel like delvin’s reference to the dark brotherhood “stabbed in the back, it’s like the dark brotherhood all over again” is just a reference to sneak and stab attacks that the brotherhood are best known for, and is just a play on words rather than a reference to any deeper meaning. But interesting to think something else might be going on!

[@para-mentischannelbypiggsy4240]

Hi Nate, in Solstiem when you complete the chief riekling misson. You find random Riekling warrior join your character in certain quests. It makes a massive advantage in some dungeons.

[@JGregory32]

For the eye of Magnus, it makes more sense if the Snow Elves built the thing, the Nords stole it and then the Snow Elves attacked the Nords to reclaim their treasure, which caused the Nords to flee and then return to conquer.

[@dasik84]

Nords have always hated magic...

[@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895]

@@dasik84good point

[@SelphieTheNutter]

One of the greatest mysteries to me in Skyrim has always been the mystery of Why Bathesta didn't programme the NPC's of Riverwood Mill to use a vacant wood cutting block instead of the one you're using. So many times has fendral pushed me out of the way when I've been chopping Wood for gold to get training in the early stages that it gets annoying. Especially when there's a second chopping block at the mill. Why they didn't program them to use the one you're not using I guess we'll never know 😂

[@kindofsad1159]

“There are no male Hagravens in the world. Except my father in law” *Cuts to an ad*

[@namelastname766]

"have ave a"

[@kindofsad1159]

Fearless seriously why do I need a last name Fixed it :)

[@namelastname766]

@@kindofsad1159 ok cool

[@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895]

Same

[@FIRSTNAMELASTNAME-zt4kf]

Hmmm i always felt he felt bad for sissles situation and he wanted to keep it quiet because nords are a skidish bunch when it comes to magic. But you bring up a very interesting point there nate.

[@cookiewoke1899]

It's been awhile since I was this early. I still think whether or not Todd Howard is a hero or a villain, is the biggest mystery. On one hand he created arguably one of the greatest games of all time... on the other hand fallout 76...

[@plate_fox]

Perfectly balanced. As all things should be

[@ezrabrook1188]

Rorikstead was definitely meant to have more quests behind it. I feel like there's a lot of cut content around it. There's a lot of lines that don't make sense in accordance with others. There was definitely at least meant to be a questline about the soil, and I bet the Daedra worship was supposed to play a big role in it or something to that effect.

[@rgaither88]

I have a mystery I've always wondered about. After you find the Eye of Magnus, and later return, it's now at the College of Winterhold. How did they move it from one spot to the other? It doesn't look like it would fit through any door.

[@sandrynvd6003]

I agree with that statement

[@dasik84]

Teleportation?

[@josephrector8735]

Savos Aren just used 0001C1B8.placeatme MG08 Console commands of course..LOL

[@hollyhartwick3832]

It seems obvious from the suggestive way they talk about each other that Delvin and Astrid used to be lovers. Also Delvin seems to be quite the "player" (or at least tries to be, as suggested by some letters between him and Vex found in the Ragged Flagon). I suspect that relationship came to an end when Astrid settled down with Arnbjorn. There probably was a betrayer in the Dark Brotherhood during his time there, but I don't think it was Astrid. In fact, I suspect it was whoever the leader was that recruited Astrid. She's still fairly young and says she was recruited by someone else. She leads the chapter when we meet her, but she didn't found it. Delvin's comparison to his time in the Brotherhood seems to me to suggest that, just like the Mercer incident, the betrayal came from the leadership. Ironically, if this is true, Astrid ends up repeating history.

[@urmumlol1991]

Murdered to death gets me everytime idk why

[@nicolechristina3282]

Oh Nate, I’ll never cease to love your videos. Your content is phenomenal and your descriptions so entertaining, but pronunciation...?! Nate: “Jo-arn” Npc (2 seconds later) pronouncing the characters name: “Yo-anne”

[@Lemunde]

Regarding the backstabbing in the Dark Brotherhood, it may simply be that Delvin witnessed a lot of backstabbing while he was in the Dark Brotherhood and didn't fall victim to it himself. It speaks to the current state of the Dark Brotherhood in that they haven't been strictly following the five tenets, emphasizing their more thug-like behavior.

[@Spacelozzy264]

I had my theory that Delvin (like his fixation with Vex) had the same feelings for Astrid and instead of shutting them down leads him on.. but still marries Anbiorn (sorry for the spelling).

[@batsspit]

I’m not sure but have you covered the fairy ring, the ring of mushrooms? It’s south of Sungard and east of bilegulch mine

[@gamerwolfKO]

When Delvin mentions about backstabbing, couldn’t he just mean it in a literal sense, like, assassins LITERALLY stab people in the back for a living.

[@Vulpine407]

"There are no male Hagravens in the world. Save for my Father-in-law." *ROFLMAO* Nate, I triple-dog dare you to play this portion of your video to your Father-in-law.

[@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix]

How old are you? Because you sound like a eight year old who’s trying to be cool.

[@Vulpine407]

@@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix I'm a 52 year old who's trying to be cool, thank you very much. What's your excuse? Sorry, sorry. It was a long day at work...

[@kamikoamaya]

@@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix And how old are you? It's quite childish to be rude.

[@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix]

@KamikoAmaya Old enough to know that that phrasing was probably rude, but not socially adept enough to make it sound nice.

[@adutori]

If you’re an assassins who’s name/face is known to history, you’re not a particularly good assassin. They wouldn’t be known even if they put Talos on the throne

[@Ze_Medic]

Tru the day your known as an assassin the day your done in your profession

[@markcarpenter6020]

I always thought the eye of Magnus was something the nords either found or stole and the snow elves were trying to get it away from people who didn't understand it/would misuse it. I also think ysgrmar knew damn well that it existed and that's why the snow elves attacked and that's the real reason he had such a hard on to kill them. He thought they took the eye and was trying to find it again.

[@garymaidman625]

If the other orb from ESO was built by elves and the Eye of Magnus is almost identical, then surely it was elves who built EoM too. Maybe it was the snow elves that built it and maybe it was the Nords that stole it from them and the snow elves were only trying to take back what was rightfully theirs. Maybe the Nords are the true villains and the snow elves got screwed by the Nords before they got screwed by the Dwemer.

[@YaboyLapris]

The delvin quote about the brother hood betrayal in the past I'm pretty sure is just a nod to oblivions dark brotherhood questline

[@ConnorRunda]

I used to be a huge Talos fan. The more I delve into the lore, the less I am a fan.

[@mapleflag6518]

Don’t let that Thalmor propaganda get to you.

[@esutt02]

Even after years I’m still finding new stuff. I was wandering Skyrim through yet another play through. If you encounter a Vigilant of Stendarr, they’ll cure your disease for you, at the promise you won’t deal with any daedra.

[@Turtle_Force]

“12 to 15 min” posts 20 min video 😂

[@maki49574]

@@TaikaJamppa Michael

[@kristopherayotte176]

I feel like the eye of magnus stores magic in it for later use. Especially since the staff drains magic from enemies. It would make sense you use the staff to steal magic then you store mass amounts inside of it holding more magic than a mortal could possibly hold. Kind of my theory

[@cheesebandit5312]

I just "discovered" something.. The symbols in the pages of the oghma infinium and the eye of magnus have the "same" symbols on it kinda and the oghma infinium Is hermaeus mora's deadric artifact 🤔

[@FifteenthApollo]

Now I gotta know what your father-in-law looks like cause that Hagraven diss was straight savage.

[@consulargaming3554]

When are you going to do a Skyrim modded playthrough I would love to see that Like so he sees

[@fugo5464]

Agreed

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Consular Gaming I'm down for that.

[@Xaveston]

Honestly the Astrid/Delvin one is probably simple. Astrid slept with him but Arnbjorn came along, she left Delvin for Arnbjorn, he eventually got over it. It's never said if Arnbjorn/Astrid were before or after Delvin really.

[@paladinheadquarters7776]

I really would like to see that armour from the Talos statue to be added in the game, even through creation club I don’t care, as long as it’s very cheap.

[@Shadowpack95]

the thing about the eye though is that when you and tolfdir are examining it he says it matches no known cutlures recorded, he lists off aeyelid, daedric and falmer

[@totallynotmozziesaccount8506]

The only unsettling mystery is why I didn't watch this sooner

[@jackhuckelberry8405]

A few years ago a friend who is very into Elder Scrolls lore told me the full story about the Eye of Magnus. I heard this through word of mouth, so it will need to be verified, but it's worth looking into. The reason everyone can tell the eye is powerful, yet no one has seen anything like it, and no one really knows what it does, is because it's not actually magic as they know it in the Elder Scrolls universe. Rather, it is technology so advanced that it is indistinguishable from magic. The eye is an asteroid mining machine from the future that somehow got sent back in time to the present day.

[@parumpadump7872]

It's a healthy guess, but I would assume that when Delvin spoke of Mercer's treachery and the Dark brotherhood, he was referencing the events of the Brotherhood questline in Oblivion from 200 years ago, where *spoiler alert* there was a traitor in the black hand pulling strings from behind the curtain, which actually almost lead them to ruin. The Thieves Guild got into a similar enough situation at that moment, so he likely made the natural comparison to an event he'd probably know something about given that he was in the Brotherhood for a time. Buuut depending on when it triggers (after or regardless of completing the Brotherhood Questline), he could be referencing the more recent treachery of Astrid. It'd take some sleuthing to figure out for sure tho :)

[@scorpion0498]

Love that these vids are still a thing, keep up the good work dude!

[@peachy2675]

I SEE VID I CLICK

[@radnaaar]

Delvin uses the same stabbed in the back voiceline when he finds a body which made me think he was just talking about backstabbing as a good way of killing. Now i dont know what to think

[@complexnote1317]

The glowing orb in the middle of that Dwarven city also looks similar to the eye of magnus

[@IanLantz]

I'm fairly certain Delvin's "stabbed in the back" statement is just a joke about literally stabbing people in the back as an assassin...

[@freewilly1193]

Honestly, I always thought hagravens and forsworn briarhearts were essentially gender counterparts. Might have just had a poor impression, but I thought the ritual to make a forsworn into a briarheart had to be overseen by a hagraven. I might need to perform more research on this on my own

[@marhawkman303]

Nate mentioned that in a vid once. We don't know it's actually required, but the one time you see the ceremony there's a hagraven...

[@sandrynvd6003]

Yeah I saw ( while sneaking ) two hagravens making a briar heart

[@modelmajorpita]

The real mystery about Rorikstead is why bards sing that long ago Ragnar the Red rode to "old Rorikstead" when Rorikstead was only founded a few decades ago.

[@KNGHTnGOLE]

Skyrim videos are the best ❤

[@derrickcarpenter8297]

Heres something that always intrigued me. How was ulfric captured when he has the power of the voice? He couldve shouted them to bits like he did the high king

[@Conqueror2077]

The Talos story kind of reminds me of Naruto whenever Orochimaru is fighting the third Hokage, before he died the third Hokage took his arms so he couldn't use his Jutsu so maybe the other guy took talos's voice so he couldn't Shout

[@FantaSea849]

When you started talking about Hjalti, the name sounded a bit familiar. Then I remembered a side quest for a tavern ghost, that asked you to retrieve the sword that belonged to someone called Hjalti. HOLY CRAP, BY THAT LOGIC (and Tiber Septim becoming the god Talos) I RETRIEVED TALOS' SWORD-

[@crypticyeti2231]

I'm pretty early to the video I'm a couple days late usually

[@nighthawkhuntr6128]

Hey Nate! I’m unsure if you had covered this or not in one of your many Skyrim videos. But after completing the quest “Thalmor Embassy”. After waiting a few days the Dragonborn can find Malborn in the inn, located in Windhelm, in the Grey Quarters. After being visibly annoyed at the Dragonborn, Malborn will request the Dragonborns assistance in killing an assassin, sent by Elewen from the Thalmor Embassy. After murdering the assassin to death, reading a note located in the corpse, reveals there may be more to Malborn that meets the eye. Upon returning to Malborn, he was thank the Dragonborn for this and give a small reward, and presumably, begins on his exodus of skyrim. Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this :)

[@Atown0921]

"The next 12 to 15 minutes" Proceeds to make a 19 minute video

[@zeveria7206]

Nords definitely didn't build the Eye of Magnus. From what the College quest line tells us, the Snow Elves and Dwarves were using it in harmony for some time, allowing them to advance well beyond what should have been possible in that era. The snow elves attacked when the Nords stole the Eye of Magnus and locked it in their city.

[@dasik84]

The working theory is that Nords found the Eye of Magnus directly in Saarthal, and the elves stole it.

[@devastatheseeker9967]

"Lives with her sister" are they twins?

[@brianroberts783]

They certainly appear to be.

[@SealiioNahka]

12:27 there’s something in TES 5 (can’t remember what, might be a book) I witch it’s confirmed that both nords and snow elves liven in saarthal. So the eye of Magnus could be snow elven