Skyrim - Alteration Perks - Worth It?

[@thorstenheinke1705]

"The best Perk in this whole tree in my opinion is the Atronach Stone..."

[@DanTKD87]

._.

[@PierreLucSex]

I was about to reiterate.

[@alexanderstilianov]

Praise the stone

[@tyminator8176]

Legit, scrolled down here, haven't started watching the video, just to comment this, and you are the first comment. GOD, DAMN YOU

[@dismayedtrinket2518]

@Zxylo 5 - Necro-Mage makes spells more effective on undead, so if you are a vampire that also includes yourself. If you have the following you will have 100% absorption: -Vampire -Necromage perk -Atronach perk -Atronach stone Make sure you are a Vampire and have Necromage before getting the other two effects.

[@reapy_s0ul26]

You forgot about the best spell in the entire game, Candlelight; never worry about the darkness again!

[@mrsquid6990]

Darks0ulreaper very true

[@Calvert1212]

I prefer magelight, btw you can abuse magelight to trigger traps

[@fionnmcglacken35]

Lemmy Winks OMG GENIUS

[@lordyasha5944]

unless u got the cat with night vision or a torch

[@Reinreith]

@@lordyasha5944 a torch takes up a weapon or spell slot, or a shield, and unless you're playing a thief build and want that option of when to see vs stealth in a emb modded game, it's not that useful in comparison to everything else

[@randybobbi4495]

The slow time shout is considered an alteration spell and it's affected by stability. I had a character who would use slow time, dragonhide, and then dual bound sword and still take down a couple enemies before slow time wore out. After I got next mage there were points where slow time slowed itself down too, and wouldn't wear out until I reloaded my save or waited twenty minutes. I cleared all of the volkihar castle with one use of slow time.

[@NarutoUzumaki-jg4pw]

You thought it was the Dragonborn, but it was I; DIO!

[@elirantuil5003]

this

[@pranakhan]

Alt Pots also work for this; This feature of Alteration should always be considered when deciding whether or not to spend pts. in the Alt tree. Surprised they didn't mention it in the vid.

[@Doralga]

Za Warudo

[@sukirai3238]

Is that a motherfucking JoJo reference?

[@James--Parker]

I may be in the minority here, but in my option the "magic resistance" perks are 100% worth it. Unlike spell absorption they work against dragons, and a permanent 10% damage resistance against a huge range of appoints is deferentially worth a single perk.

[@zaklee3291]

? Spell absorption works on dragon shouts tho

[@yawnosmannonen4934]

Spell absorption works with dragons breath attacks, all spells, and enchanted weapons effects, also all poisons and possibly even diseases can't be applied the the character either as they are considered magical effects by the game engine when it happens, dragon breaths will even regenerate your magicka while actively casting a spell I've found on several occasions( but that might be a glitch).

[@rheiagreenland4714]

You are right my clever sir! It is great for all characters. In fact, as a warrior, the most likely school to do if you do any is alteration, and warriors certainly enjoy that extra magic resistance. Mages like it even more as they have low health pools. Great perks to get once you've got all the major ones that you can get at that level, and it's convenient as you're not too far away from high-level magic users. Another one of the reasons why Bretons are quite possibly the best race in Skyrim.

[@kaylethejudicator2368]

Spell absorption earlier I would say is not as great. Thing with absorption is that you either absorb, or you don't. and if you don't, you take full damage minus racial resistances. Additionally, due to lack of proper gear and enchantments, the reduction on magicka regen hurts any character that has any minimal amount of magic as part of their gameplay. Spell absorption becomes more useful imo once you can offset the negatives, get a bit of resistances to survive the rng & get your alteration to 100 so you can use Atronach perk with the stone, giving you 70% spell absorption in unmodded skyrim. The amount of damage enemies do earlier game with magic due to lack of points in health is just not worth the rng yet.

[@theshadowyparasite9448]

The biggest issue with Spell absorbtion in vanilla skyrim is that it effects conjuration, it has a chance to absorb your summoned creatures.

[@Unprotected1232]

Is alteration worth it? Yes. Trolling my follower with paralyse or Ash shell is the greatest thing ever. It is the only way to discipline followers who stands in your way and blocks the door.

[@Yive.]

Nah just use fus ro dah

[@syxoed]

@@Yive. it still doesn't help all the time when you have a mod that lets you get over 1 follower (or if you conjured multiple allies)

[@analyticalalchemist3298]

Alteration is far and away my favorite school of magic for Skyrim. Magic Resistance is just useful for anyone to have, and the Flesh spells let you get away with having characters that don't necessarily need to be wearing armor. Like a Redguard in Hammerfell Garb, Alik'r Hood, etc.

[@StyxTBuferd]

I can never decide between Alteration, Restoration, and Illusion. The first has the best passives and makes the early game a breeze, and even lets me ignore Smithing. The second is so useful that I almost always end up relying on it at some point with every character. The third is both incredibly convenient (pacify to skip enemies, or pickpocket their clothes away for the lols) and hilarious.

[@daytwaqua]

How do you do a video on Alteration & never even mention the transmute spell? Heading to Halted Stream Camp & getting the ability to turn iron ore into silver ore, then turn silver ore into gold ore is one of the first things I do as a new character. It starts paying dividends right away, helping your smithing by having a bunch of gold to make into jewelry, & only having to buy super cheap iron ore in order to do it.

[@shadowstrider5033]

Daytwa Qua It's one of the best way to level up smithing , enchanting and get tons of gold... coins.

[@durkadur27]

once you get the banish enchant its best to just keep iron and make daggers imo

[@LaFlairdom]

durkadur27 It may be more tedious I haven't crunched the numbers but if you want to use the gems you collect like rubies and amethysts you can transmute the iron into silver and then drop the silver. It frees up space and the gemmed jewelery can give you some good xp and COINZ

[@diamondflaw]

I really just wish there was an easier way to just transmute to silver.

[@LaFlairdom]

the fucking truth. The transmuting needs to change priority. Iron to Silver should be the first check Silver to Gold should be the second. Not the other way around like it is because if you're transmuting to gold you're already going to do the whole stack.

[@AlterMythic]

Ordinator perk overhaul makes it damn well worth it

[@AlterMythic]

You essentially become god

[@infinitedeathloop5517]

I thought i could become a stripper.

[@lul6124]

2/2 intuitive magic with dual casted fast healing turns any character into a god basically. With respite you basically never run out of stamina either.

[@thosebloodybadgers8499]

LUL the problem with Skyrim is that any character becomes a god at some point, it's just a matter of time, unless you restrain yourself to some really basic gear or spells Who needs to put any effort in fighting when you can just spam m1 and healing potions anyway, right?

[@lul6124]

I actually use immersive potions, so you cannot spam potions constantly to get the healing effect. Its also really tedious to collect so many ingredients just to do that. Moreover, you require investment in the alchemy tree to constantly produce potions at top level strength. Since ordinator has over 400 perks, perk points become very valuable for someone who caps themselves at level 81 (like me). Hence the perk investment is simply not worth it compared to casting a spell (IMO at least, unless you play an alchemist type character). IIRC you cannot upgrade the alchemy station from fabricate object (apocalypse spell) either so technically your potions are never at full strength even with perk investment. 80 alteration for 2/2 intuitive magic and 40 restoration for respite and 2/2 mastery isnt a lot of heavy investment. With 2/2 restoration mastery and 40 restoration, I already have 20% restoration magnitude. With sailors repose, I have another 10%. With wild shrines, I have another 15%. With welloc, I have another 10%. With dual casting I have 2.2x magnitude. With 100 magicka and 2 spirit tutors, I have another 1.05*1.05 magnitude. With 50 base heal from fast healing, I end up with a free dual casted heal for approximately 183 hp. This should mostly heal me to full HP or at least even half HP for a level 10 character. But then again this is why you download mods like wildcat, with injuries and stagger. Combat mechanics become more important and you actually need to git gud a little instead of spamming healing spells to survive every fight.

[@SevenThunderful]

Alteration is usually my number 1 magic school. If you do ebony armor dual casting and have mage armor it lasts quite a while and is sufficient for most mage builds. But the real bonus is the fact that you don't have to carry around all that heavy equipment. Add in conjuration with bound bow and bound sword and you don't have to carry around weapons either.

[@liamhorgan7366]

Who's this Al Turation you keep mentioning?

[@RemingtonSteel]

Liam Horgan He's the son of Ma Turation and the student of Master Bation

[@joseamaya2697]

@@RemingtonSteel this comment hasn't gotten enough love.

[@RemingtonSteel]

Jose Amaya IKR

[@kaarpiv375]

I think he was the drummer...

[@elvenbredx6012]

actually his name is Altur Ation he is red guard :))

[@aidens3578]

What he fails to mention is that when you get the atronach perk it has a chance of "eating" your summons. Ie: not summoning them and giving you part of the magicka for the spell back.

[@PrutteHans]

Who doesn't want to use telekinesis? like cmon.

[@grrumakemeangry]

star wars style :)

[@treysevy5079]

I saw somebody beat the game with telekinesis

[@ddmacc]

@@treysevy5079 same the vid randomly popped up in my reccomendations, ive been watching skyrim vids since

[@Awsomememes]

Im using Telekenesis to level up, all it takes is time and magicka, no enemies needed. It increases alteration really fast

[@wildhogs2849]

@@Awsomememes if you can beat the unearthed side quest, there's a black book just before the exit which one of the options is to cast any spell for 30 seconds using 0 magic! You can then use telekinesis hold an item in the air, pull up your map and fast travel a far distance (keep buttons held down) then you alteration skill will instantly be 100. So easy.

[@jessemccormick5623]

I think the mage armor perks are great from a roleplaying perspective. It makes a pure mage playstyle actually viable as opposed to just playing another battle mage in Daedric armor. Also, I think Dragonhide works great as long as you have the Become Ethereal shout.

[@mr.nugget7237]

Yeah i play a dunmer spell sword and it's fun and he looks cool.If you're just wearing heavy armor you don't look like a mage

[@rheiagreenland4714]

They are complete GARBAGE!

[@jeffloud6180]

I feel like they coulda made the dragonhide one take a little less time so you dont have to just waste a shout

[@duncanharrell5009]

I wish they boosted the armor they gave and also made the wards feel more like magic shields.

[@pootypotputt]

Use ethereal shout to make yourself invulnerable to buy time for dragon hide spell.

[@shreddman8704]

I still get killed with that 1 second gap, cuz it doesn't work while ethereal. Paralyze, unrelenting force/ pacify are a bit more consistent.

[@ArturoPladeado]

I would say Dragon Hide sucks, but master spells in general sucks aside from master Conjuration spells that give you permanent summons. Especially destruction, like hey let's just damage everyone even friendlies and make them pissed off at me.

[@kaylethejudicator2368]

Only useful master destruction is the Lighting Storm, even then only really good for dragons since it has ridiculous range & stops their shouts. Vitality drain shouts from dragons can be a game ender

[@James--Parker]

Stability also increases the length of the "slow time" shout. Slow time is the best shout in the game for duel wielding builds, so the stability perk is 100% it in my option.

[@Trickytickler]

Transmuting mineral ore is baller for my argonian thief though. The spell might wear off and turn the gold back to iron eventually. Does he care? Hell nah, he pawned those badboys and now he is swimming in septims.

[@snappletrolling2485]

that's the only other use for alteration spells besides equilibrium, which is also only used for grinding. that also doesn't make the perks useful since you can cast transmute at fairly low levels. you can make arguments for necromage vampire builds and such, but ten times out of ten, I find it much easier and much more rewarding to craft my own set of armor with fortify destruction enchantments to lower the cost of those spells to 0.

[@amandeepbaghiana4510]

2:13 . That was one mighty shield bash O.O

[@Hrothgrar]

Paralyze is worth building alteration alone. Use that with some cost reduction enchants and a slow time shout and you can kill spam it on a room and kill anything in the game unless it resists paralyze.

[@yawnos]

Alteration + Restoration = the best possible mage build in the game bar none. seriously. In this order become undead (vampire), then get Restoration necromage perk. this increases ALL spell effects on undead even buffs and your now an undead vampire. This is when you want to select the alteration perk atronach to get magic absorb now go get the atronach stone buff. this will both be buffed up by necromage and now together equal >100% magic absorb. Congratulations​, you are now immune to all magic/dragon shouts/poisons and will have unlimited magic when fighting mages or dragons. so now your only fear is melee and arrows. also your basically an undead Demi god at this point. also all your spell are more powerful because of the interplay between being a vampire and necromage.

[@snappletrolling2485]

Heavy armor, enchanting and destruction essentially does the same thing without losing your regeneration during the day, and you won't die to draugr deathlords with ebony bows from hell. Heavy armor first off all blocks loads of melee damage, and can be enchanted to decrease magicka usage to 0 for either destruction or conjuration. It can also be enchanted with other things to reduce magic damage if mages are really giving you that much trouble. Even if magic isn't your thing, you can just swap those enchants to buff your weapon or blocking skills, or even sneaking skills if you really wanted to. Any build I do tends to rely on heavy armor, although that's because in the event I run out of magicka or get caught sneaking by an army of bandits, I'm not automatically fucked because my defense is super low. End-game it doesn't matter as much and I find myself using the black book to reset my skills to play as different builds on the same character. Either way, it's mostly just preference. Most people playing vanilla Skyrim end up becoming a demigod by the end regardless of their build.

[@StyxTBuferd]

Necromage was patched in the Unofficial Skyrim Patch, as it should be, so that you can't exploit it as a vampire. Even still, Rest+Alt is a fantastic combination.

[@sotired2245]

@@StyxTBuferd What about xbox or without unofficial patch?

[@sotired2245]

Thanks! If this works you have given me a god-tier build idea!

[@StyxTBuferd]

@@sotired2245 If you don't have the unofficial patch then yes it still works. It's such a broken exploit though and was clearly not intended to happen.

[@nikfisto4100]

Guys, could you gather all the "worth it" vids in one playlist? That would be awesome

[@Trephining]

Awesome indeed

[@marcmalloch4797]

It is absolutely worth. I made a "Detroit PD" build where I use paralysis on Redguards then use pugilist gauntlets to beat their limp bodies on the ground.

[@zopheir5019]

😂 oh nah

[@titanbrogamer2216]

When I fought morokei I had the atronach perk and when he used the staff of Magnus on me I would just absorb it so I had spells ready to cast

[@sikklegaming8415]

TitanBro Gamer , nice man, gg

[@elirantuil5003]

ggwp

[@treysevy5079]

When I fought him he did no dmg to me and I have no idea why and the staff of Magnus was also doing no dmg

[@OBM22]

this dude really just saw morokei sap his mana, and just said, fuck you my sapping now and sapped his sapping.

[@goldenmantis5564]

the only problem I have with with using mage armor is that when you are just traveling through skyrim, and you have no armor, those Saber cats fucking one hit sneak kill you from behind.

[@davidstratton696]

The Golden Mantis Do u have a follower? Cause if not I suggest getting one cause they'll alert u if enemy's r nearby by drawing there weapons/magic.

[@nooneknows7268]

The Golden Mantis I just spam aura whisper so nothing can sneak up on me

[@draconia4489]

This is my favorite magic skill! Thanks for the video!

[@danielhounshell2526]

Mass paralysis is great for taking on large groups, you can literally end a battle in seconds. Dragon flesh is amazing, but you would typically cast it in a place where you're currently safe, but expecting combat in the area.

[@liampouncy7808]

Alteration Perks - Worth It? THE ATRONACH STANDING STONE IS THE BEST IN SKYRIM! xD Great video guys, but you just can't help bringing it up, can you?

[@weckar]

But, but.... TRANSMUTE!!!

[@MyNameIsBucket]

I get it for every character. Level up Smithing, Enchanting, and Speech in no time.

[@AshbeeGaming]

I find alteration essential for my light armour builds 👍

[@sikklegaming8415]

Ashbee Gaming, hello again, btw I loved your new vid, keep them coming! 😘❤

[@AshbeeGaming]

Hey! fancy meeting you here :P New video coming in the next few days :)

[@hiimconnortheandroidsentby4722]

Ashbee Gaming Hey, love your channel!

[@sikklegaming8415]

Ashbee Gaming , Oooo I can't wait!!❤😘😍😍😍

[@russianspy5307]

Wait are you saying you don't even get your dragonscale armour to the armour cap?

[@GuileastosGui]

Didnt mention Alterations perks effect on dragon shouts which is note worthy if considering worth of the perks for your build.

[@HeisBeppo]

I tried doing an Alteration one handed build, with the flesh spells and heavy armor. Became a tank against practically everything.

[@dallasfischer6164]

Hey I like using my alteration skills for my bard character, no armor, or even robes for that matter. Just clothes because he needs to keep his look at the tops to attract the laddies, and magic for pretty much everything. So alteration can be really good for roleplay builds.

[@khodorhassan5318]

Watching this video after years of its release, just realized how great this game is

[@plumsink]

About the mage armor perks- you have to have a very high enchanting level in order to enchant armor with anything like the same kind of magicka regen and magicka fortify enchants you get with robes. So if you aren't going to invest heavily in enchanting, or if a high enchanting level is much further along in your future, the mage armor perks are super. Sure, at higher levels those robe enchants make a lot less of a difference (if you have been investing in magicka when you level, and also because of spell cost reductions in whatever school you are good at) and you will have tied up 3 perks in Mage Armor, but if you are a classic destruction mage at that level nothing will live long enough to get through your flesh spells anyway. For that matter, I have had level 40+ mages whose health and magic absorption was so high that I didn't bother casting flesh spells anymore so at that point you could take Alteration Legendary and get all your perks back. But at lower levels, when you really need the help, the Mage Armor perks are great and you won't be able to enchant armor with anything like the same levels of magicka regen/fortify as you get with for example the Arch-Mage robes. So they make sense.

[@NobodyDungeons]

The perks alone are worth going into alteration because 30% magic resistance might not seem like much, but it is more than you think because that potentially frees up an enchanting slot and in combination with things like the agent of mara passive effect along with other things it ends up being very good especially since leveling alteration is extremely easy even more so with 100 enchanting so the perks you'd spend in alteration are gotten from leveling alteration.

[@vowgallant4049]

Alteration is my favorite school of magic for the simple reason that utility spells are the coolest.

[@CyberJellos]

detect life in one hand and ash shell in the other is a great setup for thief characters.

[@JAMIIEW05]

Always wondered why this series stopped, keep them coming

[@KurwaRomek]

The passive 30% bonus in magic resistance is a must have for all classes IMO. Especially if you fight up close and personal and don't want to get raped by Ice Storms.

[@DottaNatural]

There should be a spell that lets you levitate or fly while consuming mana during it's duration.

[@20jamjar]

I think you should put up the name of the perk and maybe its description on the screen or a quick glimpse of the actual skill tree

[@oscara8454]

Playing a battlemage using heavy armor on my hands, feet, and head. Alteration is a must so I don't get one shotted. Super fun since I need to use it so I don't get bored with it.

[@EF-kk3vh]

This was actually really helpful, thanks guys :)

[@liamrobert2460]

You need level 100 alteration to get the atronach perk plus the spell absorption screws over your conjuration spells because it absorbs them once you cast them which is only made worse with the atronach stone so its probably not worth it for conjurers to get the atronach perk as it requires max level alteration. The stability perk though doesn't only affect alteration spells but also other things like shouts(ex: slow time) plus it only requires 70 alteration so its easier to get which makes it worth a lot in my opinion.

[@syntheticscary7518]

Liam Robert if you have at least one perk of "Summoner" you can cast your summon farther then you absorb my guy.

[@gunnar2321]

It could have been a 2 second video of you saying yes.

[@Guille2033]

Gunnar Clingman he needs to explain why. Saying only yes or no is a shitty opinion

[@gunnar2321]

I know, im just kidding. Its hard to show emotion through text.

[@themattheweffect4870]

That's Twitter dude

[@pissmanipulator]

@@Guille2033 no its based

[@diobrando2160]

@@pissmanipulator yes

[@adamthompson6669]

Thank you fudge muppet another awesome video

[@harmonicaman4782]

Magic absorption also effects positive spells, like healing, summons, and even flesh spells. I prefer resistance, because it has no downsides. And as you mentioned, you can have max magic resistance (85%) without equipment and potions, with only passive effects. And it stacks with elemental resistances, up to around 97% reduction. This is especially useful because armor doesn’t effect magic resistance. On a side note, flesh spells are for the most part really weak on their own, and mage armor perk is useless. Highest you can get is 300 from ebony flesh with mage armor, which is about 30-40% damage reduction, including the lord stone extra 50 armor. The armor cap is 80% damage reduction. However, you might have noticed I didn’t mention dragon hide. Dragon hide gives you 80% damage reduction, or more accurately, a .2x multiplier to damage. And this stacks with armor (but not flesh spells, which is kinda dumb), so long as you don’t change armor after casting the spell, letting you surpass the cap and reach 96% damage reduction. But it is noticeably not effected by mage armor perk, which is why mage armor is mostly useless once you have the spell. However, the weakness of this spell is it’s high cost and low duration. The duration is offset by the stability perk, and dragonhide is also one of the only two master level spells that can be dualcast. This brings it up to 99 seconds, compared to the 30 it has by base. And this can be further increased by alchemy, since alteration potions increase duration. However, the cost is still an issue, even more so if you dual cast it. This can be bypassed either by enchantments or secret of arcana. So if you wear enough armor to reach armor cap (this can be done with light or heavy armor, with or without smithing. I’d suggest light armor but that’s less cool so you do you), have enchantments and potions to max elemental resistances, have max magical resistance, and us dragonhide, you can have 96% physical reduction and 97% elemental magic reduction. If you wanna take it a step further, use spell breaker shield and never take damage again. I’ve never fully tested this build, although I’ve been meaning to. I have a alteration character but they don’t use armor so I’m going to start again. I haven’t tested the dragon hide stacking with armor, but it seems true according to most sources I’ve seen.

[@paxtonhayes7822]

I stay up until 9 every day fudgemuppet uploads just for these videos haha

[@fatpanda3305]

Let's see if Mage Armor perks are worth it. Ebonyflesh is the second best Mage Armor spell in the game. It gives the caster 100 armor. Getting all three Mage Armor perks triples the effect, bringing it up to 300 armor (which absorbs roughly 50% of all physical damage). The best Light Armor set in the game is Dragonscale Armor. Without the shield, it gives you a total of 82 armor. If you have level 100 in Light Armor, the armor rating is increased by 40%, bringing the total to 114,8 armor. If you use 3 perks in the Agile Defender perk to raise your Light Armor rating by 60%, this, combined with the 40% increase from skill level, gets you 164 armor. Combine that with the Ebonyflesh spell without the perks, which gives you 100 armor, and you end up with 264 armor, which is less than the armor you get just from the spell with perks. Of course, there are other perks, enchantments, and smithing to raise your armor rating way higher, but these require a lot more time, investment in other skills and usage of perk points on other skill trees. So while, in the end game, where you've got pretty much everything maxed out, the Mage Armor perks might not be so good, in the early and mid game they're really good.

[@JacobEllinger]

past level 60ish mage armor is complete trash. Everything that hits you feels like someone dropped a truck on you.

[@Lucas-en8vp]

Remember, I'm almost curtain that stability means you reduce your alteration leveling by %50 obviously since you use it less often. Unless there is a hidden compensation.

[@Leto85]

Stability combined with Slow Time is truely amazing.

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

Fun Fact: The Ayleids are responsible for the creation of Alteration.

[@alessiom3859]

Last Dragonborn and the psijic for misticism spells

[@yawnos]

Alesskyrim2001 Account actually the psijics don't use magic at all, they use a meditative process and mental training that allows them to "bind the universe to their will" basically the are using CHIM to reshape the universe around them. literally bend the laws of nature but they don't expend or manipulate Magicka at all. it's still tires them but not in the same way. basically they are using the same thing Tiber septim used to become a god simply rewriting the universe to make it so.

[@kbm989m9]

yawnos so it’s similar to the methods the dwemer used for building, or sword singing for the yokudans, and shouting?

[@ArturoPladeado]

@@yawnos So, Phijic Monks are basically gods. Damn, never knew that, Where the hell do I sign up.

[@yawnosmannonen4934]

In short Psijics aren't gods, but are extremely powerful, Its said the Psijic endeavor would end with Mastering CHIM, but i don't think they actually take it that far or if they do they don't do a lot with it that we know of. We know they can stop time both in person and via a form of astral projection, we know that even the master alteration mages can barely notice when this happens as we can tell well Tolfdir only is vaguely aware of something having happened, and he is a expert / master of alteration magic. We know they can teleport themselves and even other objects,, they even reveal that they are able to see into the future and see possible timelines of future events. when they reveal that events are already spiraling out of control and that it will be up to the player to decide the events to come, and that even warning you of that is breaking thei rules of non-interference. The psijics clearly view themselves as somehow above or outside of tamriel. considering that they can makes their island vanish from the face of tamriel is not surprising that they see themselves in that way. and one thing you can't forget is that Mannimarco was a Psijic monk who got kicked out of the order for necromancy and the man who started the original mages guild and invented the spell creation altars and item creation altars so magic could be "cheaply" available to the masses for the firsrt time, was also a Psijic monk

[@Lolersters]

It should be noted that Dragonskin is able to reduce damage beyond the damage reduction cap that armors provide.

[@shreddman8704]

I like Dragonhide. Mix with Dragonskin and you have a matching set! Of course Bretons are renowned for abstract thinking... and frailer bodies. I don't blame Fudgemuppet. His name sounds like an object often stored in a box.

[@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg]

Alteration holds one use to me and that’s transmute! Nothing better for all that iron and silver ore than making it into gold for the purpose of smithing! 👌🏻

[@fireblast133]

saw a mod that made it so mage armor perks only increased the strength of flesh spells by 33% each (+100% max), but removed the 'when not wearing armor' requirement

[@dirkmgurk9263]

alteration is low key they best sub class for any build

[@ishmaelmuhannad8975]

What you call a tall scrawny elf that uses Alteration spells A Altmer. (Thanks for likes my guys)

[@sikklegaming8415]

Ishmael Muhannad ,xD nice one!

[@vick0527]

Ishmael Muhannad ?

[@aestus187]

I think you should've said Altmeration.

[@DoReMi123acb]

Ishmael Muhannad is Elder Scrolls popular in the Muslim world? I assumed it wouldn't even be allowed there cause of all the content and censorship.

[@ishmaelmuhannad8975]

I'm Black from US my guy

[@jordanhoman0212]

spell absorbtion also causes you to absorb your own spells (such as conjuring atronochs)

[@jordanhoman0212]

for stealthy players, spell absorbtion can also absorb your invisibility caused by the lv. 100 perk in the stealth tree

[@anonymous99632]

Can anyone tell me if shields affect the mage armor perks?

[@spoingus69420]

they do not.

[@windhelmguard5295]

one thing i'd liek to add to the atronarch perk is that it not only works iwth the atronarch stone but also with miraaks robes which further increase your magic absorption. i laos think that stabillity is worth it just for the sake of me not having to change my equiped spells as often. also teh best alteration perk is candlelight, it's actually really good especially for those black books where you take damage when in the dark, cast magelight and just walk through it at your own pace.

[@azk12k11]

'Liek' I understand, it happens, I've made that typo way too many times on mobile

[@gloves_ow3107]

spell absorption is funny cuz it counts spells cast on you, so healing spells, conjuration spells and other may not activate and you get a ton of magicka back from it, usually more than you had to use but its a weird quirk

[@picklesthehobo6173]

With the Ordinator per overhaul mod it is great plus you just put your most used melee spell on 1 and then best alteration flesh spell on 2 and boom easy to use for a good 120 armor from one of the lower ones because the mod is fucking great for mages.

[@CorpsmanUp93]

Players don’t give dragonhide enough credit. Sure it has a wind up time and it only lasts 30 seconds. But what makes dragonhide unique is that it’s one of the only master level spells that CAN be dual casted. If you enchant your way to 100% alteration casting cost reduction, invest in the dual casting and stability perks, and become a necromage vampire, dragonhide can last for nearly 3 minutes. That’s plenty of time for preparation and most enemy encounters. PLUS it saves you 3 perk points since you don’t have to spend them on the Mage Armor perk for Ebonyflesh.

[@peckish_tooth6515]

What are the pros and cons of completing the skill tree, including all Magic Resistance and Atronach perks?

[@themattheweffect4870]

Alteration is one of the best trees imo, magic resistance is huge in Skyrim

[@SageAmariKeyes]

Yep but it’s best as a sub class than a main class.

[@henroda1]

if you get the ordinator perk overhaul mod alteration makes you godly if you master it

[@trevorv7868]

Once you get enchanting to a 100 you can make your spells cost nothing and have unlimited destruction magic or fortify which ever magic tree so you don't need the perks that make things cost less

[@JACKxTHExRIPPER]

Nice alteration alliteration with penny pinching with perk points. 👍👍

[@morrigankasa570]

The best alteration spell is the ore transmutation

[@DiligentD]

Alteration duration also effects shouts like Slow Time

[@antimonycup7066]

Spider scrolls - worth it?

[@juicypineapple6995]

Magical Armor looks cool and it's weightless and gives you decent protection = Worth it! Paralyze is super powerful and turns the fierces Draugr Death Overlords into little bitches = Worth it! Candlelight helps you find valuable items and potent healing potions that save your life in the next fight = Worth it! Detect Life helps you make a strategy before the fight in terms of positioning and who to attack first, etc. Plus it looks cool and helps your characters level up crazy fast = Worth it! Telekinesis is just super fun = Worth it! Mass Paralysis turns you into the tenth Divine = So fucking worth it! Alteration Perks such as Magic Resistance are generally good = Worth it!

[@poporiporo]

(yeah, responding a comment from 4 years ago, who cares?) I never use mass paralysis because if affects followers even with the black book that makes so you can't hurt your followers in combat. I don't want to turn my boy Stenvar into a vegetable 😢

[@juicypineapple6995]

@@poporiporo Well, Stenvar is already a vegetable, so as long as you paralyze every enemy, too, then nobody can hurt him when the spell has been cast.😋

[@williamstark6162]

It's worth it as amage with ordinator. Especially the perk that automatically uses your strongest flesh spell

[@MojaKann]

5:20 winding a disposable camera?

[@hawihawi1734]

You can get a huge magika cost reduction using robes and enchanted gear, which makes the armor boost nice, as I'm not sure if armor can be enchanted that well. I'm talking like 100% magika reduction.

[@NobodyDungeons]

The answer is yes get alteration perks because it is stupid easy to level up, and its perks will almost always be useful because what build in skyrim can't use 30% extra magic resistance, and unless your playing a conjuration mage 30% spell absorption is going to be useful to. Also, if you use shouts at all stability will be useful for those to making elemental fury, and slow time last 50% longer.

[@SpaceAngelMewtwo]

Ever considered doing these videos for Ordinator, PerMa, or SkyRe? Because those trees make Alteration perks hella worth it. I always use the Mage Armor spells when playing PerMa since the perks will provide armor rating benefits so long as you are not wearing an armor piece in your chest slot, which lets you benefit from those perks and wear some armor at the same time. That and PerMa also has a perk in the Alteration tree to make all spells that are cast with two hands be cast with only one while retaining full movement, which can make the master spells worth it (Especially Lightning Storm, holy fuck), the Master perk is required for the powerful Focus perks as well as the perk that lets you take a second Focus perk, and there is just a wide variety of new and interesting spells added to the Alteration tree by a lot of mods that can benefit from these perks, such as spells from Apocalypse or Forgotten Magic.

[@neinneinnein379]

Alternation is one of the coolest Magic Shools

[@likeagrape57]

I only use it for leveling up insanely fast using the detect life spell.

[@kon0079]

Equilibrium is a great restoration leveling spell or if a vampire use the vampire drain spell and it to get destruction up

[@callumunga5253]

Stability affects certain spells etc. outside of alteration.

[@Drescher1984]

Damn now I want to redo my mage from a high elf to a dark elf, even though the high elf race perks are so beast.

[@Mr._Anderpson]

Does the stability perk affect other alteration-related abilities? Will it increase the duration of your "Slow Time" shout?

[@GGamrz]

John Harrison yes it will

[@Mr._Anderpson]

Thanks.

[@GGamrz]

np

[@thefreindlywolf]

I usually use alteration when I don't want to put a shit ton of points into smithing

[@noahneukom]

i really like alteration but i think when it comes to perks it has two major flaws: mage armor and dual casting. because dualcasting only improves the duration and not the armor rating that the flesh spells provide. and mage armor is useless as soon as you wear one piece of armor. because if you think about it if you have all three ranks ebonyflesh gives you 300 armor. which is just a bit more than half the cap. since i‘m roleplaying a character that doesn’t use smithing i wanted to use alteration to boost my physical defense. but since i‘m wearing armor as well the max armor boost i get is 100 which is pretty mediocre in my opinion. i understand that if they had done it like i say then dual casting ebonyflesh would give 660 armor so way beyond the cap. then the only benefit of using dragonhide is that it actually can be stacked with armor. but the master spells are bad anyway so i don‘t think anyone would be upset.

[@MR_Nickanator]

Dual casting mass paralysis is more affective. It's like you are not aware you can dual cast master spells

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

i think it’s stupid it only works with clothes i get it would be op i just wish they did it differently it feels like you have to force yourself to not use armor

[@rickytan9370]

Does Atronach and Magic Resistance help if your a vampire?

[@guyturguy9985]

What happened to fallout redemption? I really enjoyed that series

[@omegagilgamesh]

No mention of how Stability affects both Quick Reflexes from the Block tree and the Slow Time Shout? You have half-again as much time to dodge when using Quick Reflexes and between an Amulet of Talos, Blessing of Talos, and lvl 3 Dragon Aspect Shout, using a lvl 3 Slow Time Shout you only have to wait like five seconds before you can use Slow Time again when the effect ends.

[@danieltaylor4185]

Stability has one very practical use and that is the fact that it increases the duration of the Slow Time shout which just makes you feel like a living god while it's active, and I love it. Too bad late-game magicka in general is very underpowered.

[@That_Guy_Ty]

I love mage armor, I play wizards who wear cloaks, hoods, and other clothing. And at least for me I use ebonyflesh and dragonskin before I enter combat.

[@temperingtantrum]

Ha, I misread the title several times as alliteration. I was so curious about casting spells alliteratively.

[@markflavell5782]

I always seem to max out my alteration tree. If you defence and resistance is covered then you can focus on offensive items.

[@vokun864]

The atronaic standing stone the alteration spell that absobes 50% magika then add that to your Breton character u basically absorb almost all spells

[@michaelbanks1820]

30% magic absorption AND resistance, I thing it's worth it

[@CamSiv996]

In my opinion it works for me because of Spell Absorption, Magic Resistance, and Mage Armor.

[@Apollo-71]

I found that with the Atronach perk when I wanted to conjurer something the spell would cancel and I would absorb it 30% of the time and as a conjurer it would get annoying when being overwhelmed. For me it's not a good perk, I just stick with Magic Resistance perks.

[@dialaskisel5929]

Still think it's silly to ignore conjuration: Absorb magic makes it harder to raise your fancy atronachs and Dremora Lords. Which, as a mage, I've always found incredibly useful. Mage armor just makes me sad. Early game, it's not too bad, but later on Ebonyflesh doesn't scale or anything, meaning it quickly falls behind the damage curve. It only has something like 300 armor with mage armor and all, it doesn't hold up. I guess it's enough not to be killed by stray arrows (sometimes), but you are still forced to rely on summoned creatures to tank for you.

[@tungstencrack3896]

You guys should do one on Vamparism and Lycanthropy

[@christopherhall5361]

try the Ordinator Perk mod, it changes all the skill perks and you can make some crazy powerful mages that can summon armies of skeletons/zombies/daedra buffed by your own power, alteration perks make you damn near un-damageable and destruction perks help you blast through your enemies pesky elemental resistances