DEBATE : Will Erik Ten Hag SUCCEED or FAIL At Man Utd? 👀 | Saturday Social ft Robbie Lyle & Buvey

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@rehanafzal636
@rehanafzal636 Жыл бұрын
How many times have we blamed the manager in recent years? Some world class coaches took over in the past 10 years but didn't succeed. There is something wrong in the ownership and it needs sorting. Give ten hag 2 or 3 more seasons like arsenal did with arteta and see the results.
@paulstones1451
@paulstones1451 Жыл бұрын
Owners are backing the managers but the managers are buying the wrong players that’s the problem
@rehanafzal636
@rehanafzal636 Жыл бұрын
@@paulstones1451 Ten hags first choice was de jong. We got case Ten hags first choice was timber. We got licha. Ten hags first choice was kane. We got hojlund. Ten hags first choice was caicedo. We got mount. Ten hags first choice was gakpo. We got antony. I'm not saying that these aren't good players but this is nowhere near what his ideal first xi would be
@Helooooaoooooo
@Helooooaoooooo Жыл бұрын
@@rehanafzal636that’s not down to the ownership, those players just didn’t want to join United
@paulstones1451
@paulstones1451 Жыл бұрын
@@rehanafzal636 de jong didn’t want to join Man U and Man U never bidded for Kane stop talking crap lol
@Fin.2821
@Fin.2821 Жыл бұрын
Not every manager gets their targets Arteta wanted Mudryk he couldn’t get him Pep wanted Sanchez he couldn’t get him
@dylanmulroe9978
@dylanmulroe9978 Жыл бұрын
“They’ve won the same amount of champions leagues as arsenal, zero” and then he has the audacity to say to Robbie “I’m not trying to wind you up”😂😂😂😂😂
@cp5589
@cp5589 Жыл бұрын
14:43 “yeah alright Robbie” that was comedy gold😂 love Saturday social 👍🏻
@Jonathan-ug9yu
@Jonathan-ug9yu Жыл бұрын
Tbf to Ten Hag, he's not exactly got a single squad, he's working with four quarters of four different manager's projects and play styles (including his own) and trying to make it work. Spurs feels like a full reset. United feels like a never ending car crash. He should get more time. He should also delete the dead weight
@coldstolen8666
@coldstolen8666 Жыл бұрын
This is ETH's team now. Hojland Onana Casemiro Eriksen Martinez Amrabat Antony Malacia Evans Mount Rashford & Bruno are previous players favoured by every manager. The only player he's playing now that he doesn't want is Maguire. He's had more than enough signings to change his team to how he wants it now. Ange at Spurs has signed 5-6 players or so and they are already playing his way (not to say it will last, but he's performing better in the beginning than any Utd manager has post-Fergie years). What's ETH's excuse?
@meritodriscoll5233
@meritodriscoll5233 Жыл бұрын
Injuries, negative atmosphere due to owners situation and fans not understanding poor performance due to injuries@@coldstolen8666
@flyinggherkin41
@flyinggherkin41 Жыл бұрын
​@@coldstolen8666martinez anothny and malacia are injured or out for most of season and until christmas for martinez. Hojlund and ambrabat were also injured and mount aswell. Proper journalist you are mate
@coldstolen8666
@coldstolen8666 Жыл бұрын
@@flyinggherkin41 antony aint good and martinez injury seems mysterious. i think he fell out with the manager.
@leephelan2837
@leephelan2837 Жыл бұрын
That intro from Buvey instantly rattled Robbie 🤣🤣
@peterkirk123
@peterkirk123 Жыл бұрын
What part of Manchester is he from or is he just a glory seeker who would've supported either Everton / Leeds United if the Abu Dhabi oil went there instead ?
@louisdnd934
@louisdnd934 Жыл бұрын
Can't stand Buvey but I do think he was around in the 2000's@@peterkirk123
@peterkirk123
@peterkirk123 Жыл бұрын
@@louisdnd934 He only became visible to the public 5 years ago max .
@louisdnd934
@louisdnd934 Жыл бұрын
Like all youtubers tbh, like I said I don't like him at all but yeah I don't think that's true@@peterkirk123
@VaeVictis96
@VaeVictis96 Жыл бұрын
Buvey is just a arrogant city fan that no one likes
@darthlovejoy3811
@darthlovejoy3811 Жыл бұрын
Mike artetas first 2 league positions at arsenal were 8th and 8th then 5th in his third season klopps first league position was 8th .where were the debates on their managerial performance
@brandonlawrence55
@brandonlawrence55 Жыл бұрын
those 2 didn’t spent money as much as Man Utd tho plus Klopp first season brought Liverpool to the UEL final, on top of that he took over in the middle of the season
@1nsomniac890
@1nsomniac890 Жыл бұрын
He's won a cup in his first season and tries his best to get rid of maguire, he's a good manager. its not always the manager's fault
@Tails7212
@Tails7212 Жыл бұрын
If the universe decides the club must fail gloriously before it improves, ETH will get us there faster for the sake of the club’s future. He won’t do a quick patch up with older players like Mourinho, nor will he ignore glaring issues with player power like Ole. He’s a far greater tactician than Moyes or Rangnick. Ten Hag in
@firmertee9790
@firmertee9790 Жыл бұрын
This Man City and Arsenal debate aged well.....
@entmeister-general415
@entmeister-general415 Жыл бұрын
Man united missing Fred’s legs in midfield alongside Casemiro yes he was sometimes poor on the ball but in certain games he could be incredibly effective and was a good option off the bench.
@Unscriptedghana
@Unscriptedghana Жыл бұрын
We have to learn to move on from players. Amrabat is an upgrade that's it Fred was a decent player but we have to learn to move on City lost Gundogan world-class player, cfc lost Kante it's part of the game
@cheesball96
@cheesball96 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Fred getting some love
@Nightsu
@Nightsu Жыл бұрын
its nothing to do with "legs" in the midfield alongside casemiro. casemiro should be benched, guy thinks hes a 10 with every ball he gets being hoofed forward. 75% pass accuracy from a supposed DM last season is embarassing
@seb1554
@seb1554 Жыл бұрын
That’s kind of a lazy explanation to blame an entire club in crisis on an average midfielder leaving lol
@entmeister-general415
@entmeister-general415 Жыл бұрын
@@seb1554 When did I say that? the club's position would be not significantly improved with Fred in the team and Fred's limitations are glaringly obvious it's just clear that both Amrabat and Casemiro need an athletic box to box midfielder alongside them in that shuttling role to link up play and provide a more physical/dynamic presence.
@natnaelarwaga6100
@natnaelarwaga6100 Жыл бұрын
Buvey is just pure entertainment. He can wind anyone up if they take him seriously.
@damnft8218
@damnft8218 Жыл бұрын
Thinking that Saka is on the same level as Ronaldo is crazy
@DevonHaigh-if5hk
@DevonHaigh-if5hk Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo scores goals. Saka does it all. Completely different players. But i would have Saka over Ronaldo anyday
@samcocker3225
@samcocker3225 Жыл бұрын
@@DevonHaigh-if5hki feel for you not seeing ronaldo at united before madrid. He had it all
@damnft8218
@damnft8218 Жыл бұрын
@@DevonHaigh-if5hk you must be 15 years old… if you saw what Ronaldo did at United when he was 18-25 you would not be so keen to make such statements. If Saka manages to get to Robben’s levels it’s a success story. Getting to CR7 levels is legendary and Saka has not got legs for that
@thatonebirtyd5058
@thatonebirtyd5058 Жыл бұрын
@@DevonHaigh-if5hkIf you genuinely believe that then you never watched Ronaldo before he fully covered to a goal scoring striker (his playmaking ability although not as strong was still really good after his conversion)
@Olivier2345
@Olivier2345 Жыл бұрын
@@DevonHaigh-if5hk😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂your young
@andrewbowyer5043
@andrewbowyer5043 Жыл бұрын
Still got a lot of work to do, especially with moving players that shouldn't be there or players he just doesn't like, Jadon Sancho, Anthony Martial, Harry Maguire, Scott McTominay should be out the door in January at the earliest
@AG-kx1el
@AG-kx1el Жыл бұрын
Firing Ten Hag might seem like the easy answer, but it's not that simple. As a united fan I think that a few players are purposely not giving their best to make the manager look bad. This "downing tools" tactic can mess up the team and its progress. It's worth noting that this team has done this to many world-class managers in the past. Instead of rushing to change the manager, we should figure out why the team isn't doing well and if the players are really committed. It's important to understand the real problems before making big decisions about the manager.
@Swan94y
@Swan94y Жыл бұрын
Ten Hag cant coach a defence, nor can he coach an attack or get the most of his signings
@AG-kx1el
@AG-kx1el Жыл бұрын
@@Swan94y all our defenders are injured
@Swan94y
@Swan94y Жыл бұрын
@@AG-kx1el Maguire? Dalot? Evans? Lindelof? All first teamers. Whats the excuse? Lets not look past Onana eityer
@Impostor39890
@Impostor39890 Жыл бұрын
Name the players then. McTominay and Maguire, both players Ten Hag tried to offload came as subs and saved the game.
@bf1716
@bf1716 Жыл бұрын
​@@Swan94y the Ajax with "mid class" players under ETH would completely destroy this MU with "world class" players. It's more about certain players and the club's ownership than it's about the manager. Now go back to your room and play more computer games
@ptotheetother
@ptotheetother Жыл бұрын
VAR is needed. Imagine if VAR went back to 1990 and had a look at a game with todays technology and how many mistakes it would pick up. We don't realise how much good it does today. Imagine todays games with 22 different camera angles and millions of people re-watching scenarios on youtube, instagram etc, referees would get so much hate for the amount of calls they miss. It wouldn't work. We need VAR, but it needs to get better. This is just a phase we are going through. And we can't enhance VAR without going through this friction. That's how we know how to improve, by these type of mistakes and learn from it. Get over yourselves.
@AndyBestHP
@AndyBestHP Жыл бұрын
agree, and Robbie made the made the point, as you have, that it doesn't matter about our ideals of the game, every viewer now has crystal clear footage, multiple angles and replays, so it's got to be in the game. There's defo a point where you say no to things that stop the flow to a point where the game is changed, but having VAR is not there yet
@ptotheetother
@ptotheetother Жыл бұрын
@@AndyBestHP exactly, but what we are seeing now is just temporary. AI is already taking over our society and within 5 years that VAR room will not look the same. There might be some controllers. But it’s gonna be AI that judges if it’s offside or not. Closer to what CL got. So we just need to hang tight.
@paulis4u
@paulis4u Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. I don't get people who hate VAR. You wanna go back to the dark ages?
@cypherpleb
@cypherpleb Жыл бұрын
@@paulis4uwhen football had a soul and was fun? Yeah sounds awful
@ptotheetother
@ptotheetother Жыл бұрын
@@cypherpleb you mean like when Brits lost their soul from Maradonas hand of God? Imagine if VAR was there.
@philippeh3904
@philippeh3904 Жыл бұрын
Robbie chatting BS about us having just Wilson out for PSG. We had Wilson, Barnes, Botman, Joelinton and Willock out and still beat the French champions whilst his team lost to 15th place RC Lens 😂
@elvismusolola
@elvismusolola Жыл бұрын
Its the first loss this season😢 lets go to the premier league Arsenal is above Newcastle
@ghettablkgffb
@ghettablkgffb Жыл бұрын
@@elvismusololafor now
@alitalbot
@alitalbot Жыл бұрын
Agreed with Botman one of Newcastle’s most important players
@Lovelydropp
@Lovelydropp Жыл бұрын
Bros naming players that don’t start 😭🤣 ur confused mate. And lens finished 1 point off PSG mate
@novian1452
@novian1452 Жыл бұрын
maan i love the banter between robbie and buvey. see that expression on the hosts when seeing they argues? that's me the whole vid
@Tormented22
@Tormented22 Жыл бұрын
I just don't understand why anyone would want to do away with VAR. This "last minute goal denied" argument doesn't fly. You actively want more errors? That would be a return to the Dark Ages. There's a foul on your keeper, opposition scores, wins the trophy, because the ref didn't see the foul. That's what you want?
@EoinDonnelly123
@EoinDonnelly123 Жыл бұрын
As a specialist, this hurt me deeply
@leroy0151
@leroy0151 Жыл бұрын
amazing content, Buvey and robbie are the perfect combo
@stighelmer1265
@stighelmer1265 Жыл бұрын
LOL. VAR is better than what we used to have. Is it faultless? No. Is it going to take more time to get right? Yes. But people seem to forget that we had the same refs making the same mistakes without VAR as well. At least with VAR we have a higher ceiling of making it right.
@david82724
@david82724 Жыл бұрын
But y aren’t they held accountable… cmonnn it’s stupid … u can get this right by changing some rules and making it clearer … like if u ask 10pm the handball rule u will get 10 diff answers… these rules seem too subjective when they should be objective… offside too… u think a player should be either off or on but now they draw lines to their shoulders and bs like that…it’s stupid… Mike dean proved it too… he said if the ref gave the goal he wouldn’t of been able to ref for the rest of the szn ?!?!? Like they litch have laws in place to STOP u from makin the right decision… never seen this type of stupidity before
@BWart-zp5hy
@BWart-zp5hy Жыл бұрын
Without VAR, decisions were made majority of the time back in those days because we don't have fans who moan at every single decision against their team and pressure referee to favor them
@adjoub
@adjoub Жыл бұрын
The point is that even though there were mistakes before at least the rhythm of the game wasn’t broken every five minutes.
@adjeiboateng6720
@adjeiboateng6720 Жыл бұрын
The answer is a big NO
@O7FTBL
@O7FTBL Жыл бұрын
They haven't won a Premier League match convincingly yet they need to start winning convincingly to succeed
@DevonHaigh-if5hk
@DevonHaigh-if5hk Жыл бұрын
I wish our fans would take this frame of mind.
@DevonHaigh-if5hk
@DevonHaigh-if5hk Жыл бұрын
Most of our fans are okay with us winning scrappy matches
@JamieReynolds89
@JamieReynolds89 Жыл бұрын
@@DevonHaigh-if5hkNo they are not. You’re talking about a select few maybe.
@Lovelydropp
@Lovelydropp Жыл бұрын
@@JamieReynolds89nah they are. Your known as the worlds most shameless fanbase for a reason
@DB-07
@DB-07 Жыл бұрын
@@LovelydroppUnited are the worlds most shameless fan base? Are you joking? City have 115 charges….most of which we all know to be true, yet City fans couldn’t care less. I’d call that pretty shameless. They’ve cheated and it’s widely accepted by their fan base.
@jonasloic4194
@jonasloic4194 Жыл бұрын
WITH ONANA FORGET
@andrewmakepeace854
@andrewmakepeace854 Жыл бұрын
Give him a couple of seasons to get rid of the deadwood and other players he doesn’t want, then bring in his style of player. Can’t expect instant success in a rebuild. Had a good season last year, but half the players aren’t interested in working for the team this season and it’s clear to see. Hopefully we see an improvement after the international break when a few more players come back into the team or at least a left back!
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL Жыл бұрын
The media and United fans are hilariously annoying..Their constant microsropic Fergi comparison to Ten Hag is uncalled for and screams of 0 Ball knowledge.. It took Fergi 7 years before he could win prem title..It took him 13 SOLID good years before he could get his hands on Champions league
@jackhe3209
@jackhe3209 Жыл бұрын
People need to stop saying getting nerd/specialist whatever you wanna call it to referring the game, because: 1.they have no passion, will they do their job properly 2.they wont know the game, they wont know whats a natural hand position, what dangerous tackles are 3.after they been all the trainings, then congrats, we now have a hundreds new mike dean, darren england etc
@Lucas-yo6wf
@Lucas-yo6wf Жыл бұрын
Give it a rest sky. There are 19 other teams in the league to talk about 😂
@mohammedhamza5560
@mohammedhamza5560 Жыл бұрын
As a chelsea fan, ten hag will be good in the long run. Man united fans need to be patient. Which is the hard thing about the game. Mate he delivered your first trophy since 2017
@Marais-cu3vo
@Marais-cu3vo Жыл бұрын
10:00 Buvey made a reference to Monaco playing in the 2004 UCL. Back then City finished 16th in the Premier League. I wonder who did Buvey support back then? Was it United or did he already switch to Chelsea before eventually switching to City?
@manunited1235
@manunited1235 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure he was talking about 2017 when Monaco reached the semi finals
@Yow531
@Yow531 Жыл бұрын
He will succeed, just give him time
@Lovelydropp
@Lovelydropp Жыл бұрын
Yeah give him at least another 3 years! We all want to see that 🤣
@yasheenmahabeer
@yasheenmahabeer Жыл бұрын
It all depends on the take over isnt it? If the take over happens ther is all the possibility that he succeeds. If the take over doesnt happen its another 15 year cycle of the same thing with Manchester United managers
@ashwilliams4959
@ashwilliams4959 Жыл бұрын
Instead of blaming the glazers, the blame should go on whoever thought in 2023 Johnny Evans was a good idea
@yasheenmahabeer
@yasheenmahabeer Жыл бұрын
@@ashwilliams4959 True story, but with the injuries atm he is coming in handy isn't it?
@thomasnielsen5580
@thomasnielsen5580 Жыл бұрын
@@ashwilliams4959 Lol, he is actually one of the few players that actually delivers and he is not even one of the star players. That was a pretty deluded argument.
@Impostor39890
@Impostor39890 Жыл бұрын
United fans will instantly turn on Ten Hag if oil daddy Sheikh Jassim wants him to go.
@ashwilliams4959
@ashwilliams4959 Жыл бұрын
@@yasheenmahabeer true but there's plenty of better options out there
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL Жыл бұрын
Champions league is the biggest and most prestigious club competition.. It's annoying when the media and deluded fans compare the "pReMieR leAguE" to Champions league as if they are SICK in the head..When did they even come up with such conservation??
@adamrawsthorne5341
@adamrawsthorne5341 Жыл бұрын
Newcastle didn’t have Wilson Botman and Joelinton. Imagine Robbie if arsenal didn’t have Jesus Rice and Saliba. He definitely would t be calling it a full strength team
@123kidxpac123pac
@123kidxpac123pac Жыл бұрын
Willock is still out as well, Barnes long term injury, Murphy out too. We had 2 keepers and dummett on the bench. I don't expect them to know it, but just have the expectation they won't say anything if they dont know. High bar I know
@alantheangler6768
@alantheangler6768 Жыл бұрын
I have confidence in Ten Hag. He’s building for the long term. He needs time.
@gazmo71
@gazmo71 Жыл бұрын
Think Robbie is right to say Arsenal will progress further than my team in the CL but he should do a bit of research when saying we had a full team bar Wilson. Could be argued Botman, Joelinton, Wilson, Willock and Barnes would of all started that game on Wednesday vs PSG
@StuTheDon17
@StuTheDon17 Жыл бұрын
It's a bit of a lottery. Arsenal could top their group and Newcastle finishing second in theirs. But Arsenal could draw a tougher side in the next round. It happens every year.
@cardinalultras5484
@cardinalultras5484 Жыл бұрын
How can anyone take that city fan seriously???????? 😂😂
@alexpeasley8241
@alexpeasley8241 Жыл бұрын
Why is that fella with the south west accent a city fan? 😂
@RyanReynolds808
@RyanReynolds808 Жыл бұрын
Onana is 💩 Mount is 💩 Antony is 💩 Those three were Ten Hag signings. And it'll be the end of him sadly
@bonjovi7120
@bonjovi7120 Жыл бұрын
E7H has brought in some really bad players
@mrgamble3866
@mrgamble3866 Жыл бұрын
Keep dreaming fool
@liberalslayer7220
@liberalslayer7220 Жыл бұрын
What’s funny is that the Net spend of Man City doesn’t even put them in the top five biggest spending list in the Premier League in the last 5 years. Arsenal’s spending more in the last 3 seasons than city’s spending in 5
@peterkirk123
@peterkirk123 Жыл бұрын
That explains why Abu Dhabi City have over 100 FFP charges .
@coldstolen8666
@coldstolen8666 Жыл бұрын
It's because City have built winning teams in the past 5 years so their players have high resell value. Every City player can be sold for £40m minimum. Hence why they have good netspend. They'll pay £40m odd for a player and get 4 decent to good seasons out of them, then they'll still be worth that money or more depending on how much they contribute to City compared to the rest. Difference is Man United and Arsenal will pay that money for a player, and they will flop or have below average seasons so their value will deplete. Man United paid £80m for Sancho, he's probably worth half that now. Same with Antony. Pepe and Havertz are probably worth half what Arsenal paid as well, although they overpaid for Havertz in the beginning. Teams that perform better on the pitch will have better netsepend because their players are worth more and balances out with expensive new signings. United and Arsenal's expensive new signings aren't being counterbalanced with their sales because their sales aren't high enough. Even Chelsea know how to sell their underperforming players for a good price.
@Cosmic-Wanderer
@Cosmic-Wanderer Жыл бұрын
You probably think Haaland only cost 50 odd million dont you? Offshore payments and bungs behind backs that deals worth £150-200m easily. Theres a reason they have so many charges.
@coldstolen8666
@coldstolen8666 Жыл бұрын
@@Cosmic-Wanderer They're not being charged for current affairs. Their charges are dating from back when their takeover started to their first 5 or 6 years or so of performing well in the Prem. That's because City magically transformed from a midtable team to a top 4 team to a winning team in the span of 3 seasons so this come-up is being investigated. Their recent netspend being good is because they built a successful foundation off their alleged cheating years. Their current netspend, I highly doubt, involves cheating.
@liberalslayer7220
@liberalslayer7220 Жыл бұрын
@@Cosmic-Wanderer just out of interest what years are those charges for?
@rjScubaSki
@rjScubaSki Жыл бұрын
It’s impressive that Robbie can even make Buvey seem reasonable
@91vanced14
@91vanced14 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't trust buvey around small ppl
@mvp2526
@mvp2526 Жыл бұрын
sir alex ferguson also got this problem when he was man utd coach in the 90s than the rest is history.Ten hag is a good coach or even similar to saf standard,the problem is the glazers and managemnet running the club to the ground.
@sallahudinmehuddin8046
@sallahudinmehuddin8046 Жыл бұрын
Mctomminay showed more hunger in the 10 mins he was on the pitch than most of the players did yesterday.
@DaleHanky97
@DaleHanky97 Жыл бұрын
"Newcastle virtually full strength squad" Harvey Barnes injured Joelinton injured Joe Willock injured Callum Wilson injured Sven Botman injured Just the 5 (FIVE) first team players out 😂
@eamonncairns7487
@eamonncairns7487 Жыл бұрын
Buvey is so unreasonable and it makes for great entertainment value 😂
@etforde
@etforde Жыл бұрын
We need to develop an AI for VAR, and limit the use of it to offsides and in/out on lines. Only then can it become perfect. Immediate decisions and immediate celebrations without being left hanging for many seconds or even minutes. Another plus is that with the offsides and line decisions are taken care of by the AI, the linesmen can spend more time looking at tackles and other things.
@leonpalmer2429
@leonpalmer2429 Жыл бұрын
The club is cursed internally. SAF knew what the club was becoming won them thier ladt premiership and left. Its not a coincidence that every player and manager has regressed in the last ten years. It says alot that dan James is the third highest transfer out post saf
@jpred250
@jpred250 Жыл бұрын
Will he be successful? He already been successful 🤦‍♂️ best manager since Sir Alex, just because he had bad luck with squad injury, sancho, and take over mess doesn't mean he suddenly not 🤦‍♂️
@mj87874
@mj87874 Жыл бұрын
How’s he been successful 😂😂😂 1 trophy isn’t exactly successful
@ragzandragz1224
@ragzandragz1224 Жыл бұрын
Ten hag definitely needs two more seasons. We're in the middle of a process and we need to stick for once and not twist
@mirzaataei4405
@mirzaataei4405 Жыл бұрын
With logic in place, VAR should work 100%!!! But it seems like VAR is implemented just to change the direction of the game to benefit one side, it’s not fairly used! Goal line camera was already there long before VAR, just remember city winning the league against Liverpool in 17-18/ 18-19!
@O7FTBL
@O7FTBL Жыл бұрын
Everyone forgets that he got Ajax to a UCL semi final in 2019 he knows how to do well but he's not showing that for Man Utd
@s.pranavs.pranav4163
@s.pranavs.pranav4163 Жыл бұрын
He took an injuryless ajax to a ucl semifinal we have 5 injuties at rye back and midfield its hard for him but I don't want him to get sacked
@peterkirk123
@peterkirk123 Жыл бұрын
@@s.pranavs.pranav4163 I agree give the Dutch Solskjaer a 10 year open check book contract
@Cosmic-Wanderer
@Cosmic-Wanderer Жыл бұрын
He flapped a 2-0 lead against spurs in a CL semi final. Hes an absolute joke of a manager.
@JohnDoe-qm8ns
@JohnDoe-qm8ns Жыл бұрын
​​@@Cosmic-WandererYeah, because Lucas Moura single-handedly completing one of the best comebacks ever, makes EtH a fraud.
@Cosmic-Wanderer
@Cosmic-Wanderer Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-qm8ns down to Ten Hags tactics of park the bus defend the 2-0, and the worst keeper in the world in goal Banana. Brought the pressure right on. Look at Banana for them goals absolutely awful.
@barca-vibe
@barca-vibe Жыл бұрын
It’s not ten hags fault Individual errors needs to be corrected Manager can’t do anything if olayers make amateur mistakes under pressure
@AnthonyStarrHomelander
@AnthonyStarrHomelander Жыл бұрын
You didn't watch yesterday's game . Lol .
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL Жыл бұрын
​@@AnthonyStarrHomelanderUnited doesn't deserve Ten Hag
@AnthonyStarrHomelander
@AnthonyStarrHomelander Жыл бұрын
@@eL--RaL Ten Haag doesn't deserve Man United* . He is very bad at controlling players. He has the ego of Pep . He got the players he wanted. Spent 200 mil .
@samshyam5347
@samshyam5347 Жыл бұрын
​@@AnthonyStarrHomelanderwhat happened in yesterday's game? Did you watch it? Brentford scored from schoolboy defensive error and then parked a double decker bus. Nothing about yesterday's match refutes what the guy above is saying
@AnthonyStarrHomelander
@AnthonyStarrHomelander Жыл бұрын
@@samshyam5347 and then can't do anything for rest of the game ?? He won by luck .
@lotfi_hosni
@lotfi_hosni Жыл бұрын
Everybody fails at DISunited. That means the problem is the club and not the individuals
@BanoffeeBear
@BanoffeeBear Жыл бұрын
If given time, succeed. Give him time or repeat the same mistakes
@Whatmobiledeal
@Whatmobiledeal Жыл бұрын
The irony that ETH has been kept in a job for another few weeks by McTominay the player that he wanted to see the back of. You couldn’t make this stuff up 😂
@Primitive01
@Primitive01 Жыл бұрын
Nowhere near losing his job..
@Whatmobiledeal
@Whatmobiledeal Жыл бұрын
@@Primitive01 6 loses in last 10 games says otherwise
@Primitive01
@Primitive01 Жыл бұрын
@@Whatmobiledeal So? Are you his boss? You HOPE he gets sacked.
@bendegorro754
@bendegorro754 Жыл бұрын
1. Var ... I believe it can be success. First step, Ref & Var Room communication live & accessible to public, during & after the match. 2. United get better ... Yes & No. Yes they can win against small team, but will not against top 4~8 teams. I believe their won't get top 6. Lack of quality depth squad & stubborn manager with favorite players. 3. Saka need rest ... yes. There's only a few case an agile players can play +30 league matches plus other competition, total +50 matches. Their muscle will be torn at some point if not given a rest. 4. Newcastle better than Arsenal in UCL ... both team will succeed in group phase. After that, real challenge awaits them. They might failed in 16 rounds. 5. Liverpool main City threat in EPL ... no, still Arsenal. Arsenal have more balance squad, Liverpool still rely on Salah. 6. Spurs Top 4 ... yes. Chelsea & United still on bad situation. City guaranteed. Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs & Newcastle are top 4 challengers. Newcastle a few time losing 3 point to weak team.
@Grampz_
@Grampz_ Жыл бұрын
yeah a lot of man city fans have changed their opinion on champs league. Once you win it, its a game changer for you club
@kash18141
@kash18141 Жыл бұрын
Eth trying to make a cake with mediocre ingredients
@aidangriffiths5075
@aidangriffiths5075 Жыл бұрын
succeed, united isn't Arsenal or tottenham or Chelsea, it's a much much bigger job and it needs a lot more time. They didnt give any managers the amount of time thats actually been needed to change the club in every way it needs to be changed, and the owners really really need to go, and quickly
@tomwebster5348
@tomwebster5348 Жыл бұрын
I know he didn’t say Newcastle went against PSG with our full team 😂 this show always exposes how little these guys know about clubs they don’t support… big joe injured, willock injured, botman injured, barnes injured, tonali nursing an injury, Isak also nursing an injury during the game, including Wilson and were talking 7 main players 😂
@CluckyBuba
@CluckyBuba Жыл бұрын
Simply, it was an on field refereeing error.. the game was restarted too quickly for the Diaz goal. Refs are trying to protect their own back after the new rules they bought in for more time ball in play and less time wasted, hence all the yellows they are forking out. If var are checking the goal, you wait. If it's a close offside decision involving a goal, you should wait until it's properly confirmed.
@tufflikeLK
@tufflikeLK Жыл бұрын
as a life long United fan, Bruno Rashford, shaw maguire and the bald Ole before I start watching again. that 7-0 will never be forgive or forgotten.
@3082frank
@3082frank Жыл бұрын
If the players are incompetent and to makes matters more difficult..we have lost all our top left and right back. ETH will succeed but he also needs to stop the biasness of selecting his favourite and not dropping them.
@perspectivefromoba4027
@perspectivefromoba4027 Жыл бұрын
Robbie was wrong there, we had Botman, Wilson, Joelinton Barnes Willock out against PSG, our bench was skinnied
@ninety_ldn
@ninety_ldn Жыл бұрын
I dont think ETH succeeds. Look at Ange, 4 months in to the job with a squad of players who i dont think anyone would say its particularly filled with superstars and they are absolutely cooking. They all work hard, they are well coached, and they have belief.
@okplld
@okplld Жыл бұрын
When Ole tookover after Mourinho he won like 8-10 games continuously if I remember correctly also making a comeback against PSG. After that everything slowly fell apart players lost motivation. So stop judging managers, players on short periods. Let's see how well spurs will be doing by the end of this season. Same with Onana, same with Ten hag. Some fans are constantly flip flopping, being reactionary. There are United fans now acting as if Mctominay is a world class player.
@nxt1990
@nxt1990 Жыл бұрын
Buvey 100% right on VAR. It takes out everything we like about football.
@judzis007
@judzis007 Жыл бұрын
there is toxic negativity, but robbie has toxic positivity!
@Kenneth31allusernamestaken
@Kenneth31allusernamestaken Жыл бұрын
Ice hockey has a rule where the coach can question a offside (or anything else) right before a goal and then they have to check it, called "coaches challenge". If its no offside or anything other the team gets a minor penalty. Why not try out something like that instead of checking every time, and still get it wrong.
@TheBonesReaperShow
@TheBonesReaperShow Жыл бұрын
I think Onana has to be benched. He will cost United points, yes that was a great gutsy comeback but it won’t always be the case. Onana is very consistent with errors, not just ones that lead to goals. If you watch the games he has played there are consistent mistakes, we just remember the ones that led to goals. Just my opinion as a neutral.
@marcus-sky
@marcus-sky Жыл бұрын
Ten hag wanted a midfielder in goal 🥴 what did they expect
@Impostor39890
@Impostor39890 Жыл бұрын
Who would've thought that an error prone De Gea will be surpassed by an even greater buffoon.
@SM_C24
@SM_C24 Жыл бұрын
Man United can turn a corner taking positives and confidence from yesterday’s comeback.
@petterw2332
@petterw2332 Жыл бұрын
Robbie is very reasonable as long as he doesn’t talk about Arsenal
@jamestracey5958
@jamestracey5958 Жыл бұрын
Utd back to their rightful place in history pre Ferguson
@trevg9450
@trevg9450 Жыл бұрын
Stating the obvious. Erik Ten Hag has a big problem. Ten Hag, like any Manager, has his preferred style of play. In an preseason interview with the Manchester Evening News he lays out how he wants United to play. So what's the big problem? His first and only season at United saw him and them finish 3rd, gain a CL spot for this year, make 2 cup finals and win 1 Cup Trophy......all accomplished WITHOUT his preferred style of play. Ten Hag got results by not playing his preferred style of play. After the first 2 games he knew he didn't have the players to play the way he wanted, so he adapted. jetisoned that plan and came up with a way of playing that got the best out of his team. That created a problem for him....does he continue to play in a way he does't want but got him and the team success or does he try and get them to play his style. The first Summer signing of Mount told the story of what he wanted to do....play his style. Mount came in to play a number 8 along with Fernandes and help with the press, the next move verified the direction Ten Hag was going to go. He got rid of his Golden Glove winning GK and brought in a GK who he believe would help with build up play by playing out from the back. And then he added a 20 year old 9 goal scorer with potential to help score goals. Each transfer told you what he wanted to do..........play his style. A classic case of a Manager who choses what's best for the team as oppose to what he likes. The irony is, that the only thing that counts is wins. United had 23 last year. Doubtful Ten Hag will accomplish that this year. A step back indeed. So far I would say, he made the wrong choice and that's all on him.
@Zoro3-3
@Zoro3-3 Жыл бұрын
I’m backing the manager through and through idc. Look at the amount of managers we’ve ran through. Regardless of where we are by the end do the season, I am backing the manager.
@TheIrishKing.
@TheIrishKing. Жыл бұрын
7Hag deserves to keep his job at least until the Liverpool game 🙄
@reallysebas
@reallysebas Жыл бұрын
VAR could be good, but the people using it aren't applying it correctly.
@2Qwuik
@2Qwuik Жыл бұрын
If it took SAF couple of years to build Man utd his way Why couldn't we do it with Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho and Ole? We should let Erik Ten Hag take his time to build the squad his way.
@iraqired
@iraqired Жыл бұрын
VAR just proved and exposed how bad Refereeing was before VAR was introduced
@NealyLL
@NealyLL Жыл бұрын
Succeed 💯, just get rid of Glazers and be careful who replaces them
@hellothere4045
@hellothere4045 Жыл бұрын
Ten Hag will succeed in making United a top 6 team. Ten Hag will fail to eclipse Pep or Klopp
@jjw4646
@jjw4646 Жыл бұрын
The whole man united defence needs to go. Awful. And that GK needs looking into, he’s had been dreadful since taking De Geas spot
@Jobbert85
@Jobbert85 Жыл бұрын
Neither Pep, Klopp or Artetas (•)(•) could take this man-united team top 4. Only ETH can do this with this team.
@Jobbert85
@Jobbert85 Жыл бұрын
@@jjw4646check the stats. Onana has more clean sheat in his first games then David De Gea. You’re just a sheep mate
@jjw4646
@jjw4646 Жыл бұрын
@@Jobbert85 Great…. How long has Onana been there? De Gea much better.
@jjw4646
@jjw4646 Жыл бұрын
@@samshyam5347 Sorry I can’t read
@alexwarren9730
@alexwarren9730 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that the players are just not that good. People overrating the likes of rashford and fernandes is the main misconception at the club. We just aren’t that good and we don’t have the players to play very technical football.
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL Жыл бұрын
The way people are treating Ten Hag is disgusting.. The man singlehandedly built a 7up drink factory at Anfield last season.. His first words in prem "Every era comes to an end" maybe he was predicting his own future but c'mon, gotta give him his dues
@DevonHaigh-if5hk
@DevonHaigh-if5hk Жыл бұрын
I really dont know what point your trying to make
@Jishan-i4s
@Jishan-i4s Жыл бұрын
potch has over 100 players and he is still behind utd@@Cosmic-Wanderer
@Cosmic-Wanderer
@Cosmic-Wanderer Жыл бұрын
@@Jishan-i4s hes been there 5mins at a club where the owner has turned the whole system upside down buying and selling a million players. Ten hag whos been there 15months spent over 400m himself - not the owners. And is 1pt ahead of Chelsea down to the flukiest dirtiest lump the ball football tactics around.
@Jishan-i4s
@Jishan-i4s Жыл бұрын
Potch can spend any amount he wants but will still be behing utd@@Cosmic-Wanderer
@ChubsEdits
@ChubsEdits Жыл бұрын
He needs to flush out the bad and in with the new, as I’ve said Roy Keane had the perfect comment- ‘Leopards don’t change their spots’ United have been backed they’ve spent loads. It’s a internal issue.
@negelieashim9776
@negelieashim9776 Жыл бұрын
This city fans shameless shameless
@liamstringer6877
@liamstringer6877 Жыл бұрын
Honestly Robbie doesn’t have a clue he was saying about arsenal missing more important players than Newcastle were. Newcastle was missing joelinton, Wilson, Barnes, Willock, botman. Arsenal were missing martinelli and timber and timber can’t really be that much of a miss he’s played 1 competitive game (2 if you’re counting community shield as competitive) I don’t even mind the shout of arsenal going further than us in the champions league but just get it right arsenal bottled it and Newcastle stepped with more important players missing.
@EEtix
@EEtix Жыл бұрын
Every manager seems to fail after the first season, then pundits run to blame the coaches and players. It can't be coaches and players everytime. That's an easy answer
@EricusXIV
@EricusXIV Жыл бұрын
The Swedish League, in its steadfast commitment to the integrity of the game, has eschewed the use of the VAR system, uniting discerning fans in their opposition to this technological intrusion. We steadfastly adhere to the time-honored 50%-rule, thus preserving the purity of the sport from the corrosive influence of sportswashing. The League may be imperfect, but I have never experienced greater joy in following it, as I witness the beautiful game being systematically dismantled on the grandest of stages.
@gratefulkm
@gratefulkm Жыл бұрын
Depends if he good enough to get the team to above avg, If the team are almost good, the TV narrative and the PGMOL will ENSURE Man U success Just like they did for 25 years
@DevonHaigh-if5hk
@DevonHaigh-if5hk Жыл бұрын
Its not like he hasnt been given time to rebuild. And the signings he bought anyone who knows footbaĺl knew they were sh*t signings
@lukefegan1893
@lukefegan1893 Жыл бұрын
Wilson willock and joelinton and botman injured we did not have our full squad out yes you have a better squad but i would have to agree Newcastle will get further then arsenal and Manchester
@andrewfernandes5698
@andrewfernandes5698 Жыл бұрын
There is no one fault the coach is good he need to show some people the door he doing good job maguire sancho rashford should be sold right away 0:57
@damianryan3791
@damianryan3791 Жыл бұрын
I’ve accepted we’ll never win anything major until the glazers are gone. Nothing against ten haag.
@Jordan-qj7we
@Jordan-qj7we Жыл бұрын
Newcastle didn't have a full squad so that comment is BS. No Botman, Wilson, Willock or Joelinton.
@cookerdegree4938
@cookerdegree4938 Жыл бұрын
How much time was Arteta given? He had an awful start and finished 8th twice yet Arsenal kept him on. United will never be that low
@sjholmes99able
@sjholmes99able Жыл бұрын
Give him time, Arsenal fans wanted Arteta gona now he's challenging and they love him. Fergie took 5 years to get things going. It's not the manager, Itself the player and the hierarchy that's rotten atm
@steffenbradbury4209
@steffenbradbury4209 Жыл бұрын
Pep took a year despite having the spine already set up Klopp took a few years Arteta took many years Because it’s a Man Utd manager he has to be competing for the league in his second season.. The club was in complete disarray after Rangnick but let’s pretend it was all roses when he turned up.
@Impostor39890
@Impostor39890 Жыл бұрын
Stop putting Arteta's name with managers who actually won the PL.
@steffenbradbury4209
@steffenbradbury4209 Жыл бұрын
@@Impostor39890 exactly I was using it as a example he has done nothing yet despite spending over 400M
@cvmgaming568
@cvmgaming568 Жыл бұрын
Why sack ten hag. Give him 20 mil. Then pay 20 mil for amrabat his player. Spend another few mil on new manager signing on fees and ffp regulations. You're left with 50 mil max out of the original 100 mil ten hag wouldve had. Grow up everyone. This is why i was ole out but glazers first
@saulziyech9710
@saulziyech9710 Жыл бұрын
How ironic is it that a city fan doesn't want VAR 😂😂
@HAWK_H
@HAWK_H Жыл бұрын
And It's not ironic why a varsenal fan supports var😂
@Cosmic-Wanderer
@Cosmic-Wanderer Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable. Fergie time dirty stoke city lump the ball in the box scruffy goals papered over seven hags cracks and all of a sudden its “lets back the manager” 🤣. That result is a blessing in disguise for rivals. Keeps the false hope up around that dire club, squad and manager.
@jakeyg77
@jakeyg77 Жыл бұрын
Robbie talking out his backside again, we definelty didn't have 'virtually' our full team, it wasn't just Wilson, there is also Botman, Willock, Joelinton, Barnes, these are some of our most important players
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