SLEIGH RIDE PARTY 1897 Columbia Brown Wax Christmas Cylinder Played on EAGLE Graphophone Phonograph

[@Kristo99]

Its good to know that there are people out there who care about old things.

[@therestorationofdrwho1865]

I love old things! I love fixing them and making sure they work as they did many years ago. But sometimes I like keeping them aged to show how special they are.

[@markostermayer3614]

Kartul2 I do and I just turned 14

[@gjacobson76]

I have to say, these old recordings are a part of history, and should not be forgotten. Thank you for sharing, now younger generations can enjoy them for many years to come.

[@tuileriesantiques9057]

i’m an antique clock and phonograph collector woth many more types of antiques i collect. i’m 13. yes it’s sad that it’s so rare to see people who care about these things.

[@wachamcaulid]

I’m young and a casual enjoyer of them. Since I don’t own records and other old things, I just plan on putting some of my favorite old songs into a midi and score video.

[@jjobie]

Astonishing. It really is basically a time machine. There are no words for how cool this is.

[@racheln8563]

Isn’t that the truth? I’ve always liked this kind of hands-on history over dry textbooks.

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way. We deserve Hell because we've sinned. Lied, lusted stolen, etc. But God sent his son to die on the cross and rise out of the grave. We can receive forgiveness from Jesus. Repent and put your trust in him. John 3:16 Romans 3:23❤😊❤❤😊

[@AidanTheLoverBoyOhDwyer]

one of the clearest sounding copy from the 19th century.

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way. We deserve Hell because we've sinned. Lied, lusted stolen, etc. But God sent his son to die on the cross and rise out of the grave. We can receive forgiveness from Jesus. Repent and put your trust in him. John 3:16 Romans 3:23❤😊❤❤

[@Kennephone]

I love the open mechanism and the key that unwinds as it plays.

[@blockygamer1]

I make it a tradtion to come back to listen to this every Christmas. Nothing beats a good old fashioned festive recording!

[@jonathannocon]

Snap crackle pop & wobbles kinda adds to the charm of these vintage machines imo

[@stevebengel1346]

I would like to thank you for sharing this with the world. I'm going to make listening to this a Christmas tradition from now on with the young ones

[@camfg8908]

What a beautiful old machine that is. And incredible how we can hear people who lived 200 years ago.

[@ergiel]

Wow, American education system in nutshell.

[@angelagraves1435]

Yea! If someone was in their 70s on this recording, they were technically alive 200 years ago! That’s so cool

[@Mr.Petlover]

So funny after over 120years ago. At this time Christmas was Christmas and holy, not like now. Good old times.....

[@Ciclopea2]

So cool, i hope those people knew how special this recording that they made actually was, it lasted for generations all the way to this era with people like me listening to them with headphones and a laptop, crazy, thank you for this.

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way. We deserve Hell because we've sinned. Lied, lusted stolen, etc. But God sent his son to die on the cross and rise out of the grave. We can receive forgiveness from Jesus. Repent and put your trust in him. John 3:16 Romans 3:23❤😊❤😊

[@kelhard5632]

Wow, sound is quite good for an acoustical wax cylinder.

[@Elvisultimatefanchannel]

That machine is a thing of beauty. So much more classy than the technology of today

[@robertmoore8076]

I am so glad that you have this uploaded on KZbin. I get chill bumps thinking the people who did this recording have been dead for at least several decades now. I believe this is as close as a time machine we will get. I am very blessed to hear this and I thank you once again for uploading this for our enjoyment and pleasure...

[@flaviocorreadosanjos6575]

Wonderful it's like a time machine. I'm só glad to see and listen it in 2022!

[@pgh45rpms]

Len Spencer 1867-1914.

[@shorty332]

You know, I never thought of it that way, and it is one.

[@Andy-im3kj]

I'd also like to say that I love this video because of how jolly all of the singers sound in this recording. Thank you for uploading this! I also play this back every Christmas since 13 years ago and now have my kids listening to it in amazement!

[@stuartcath1]

This is a wonderful brown wax cylinder one of my personal favourites. it is an absolute joy to see and hear it play on an original graphophone. Thank you once again so much!! - a real pleasure

[@davidseannelson]

Absolutely amazing sound quality for a 113 year-old record! Thanks for posting!

[@nosferatu8530]

This is absolutely amazing equipment....... Dreaming of owning one someday. Amazing technique all handmade without any electricity.. I am blown away...

[@RetroFan]

I love these old recordings. I have downloaded many but don't own any. I'd love o eventually.

[@MrDaiseymay]

Wonderful sight and sound. My dad was one year old at this time.

[@MrCristoforoantonio]

I am truly impressed this still exists! Not bad for a recording from 1897!! This must be the oldest recording I have heard on youtube!

[@MarkMphonoman]

Beautiful sounding machine.

[@Celluloidwatcher]

Thanks for uploading a clear sounding acoustic recording made before 1900. Wonderful reproduction for its time.

[@thedogdogification]

Wonderful! The sound is unbelievably clear. What a privilege to get to hear something like this after so much time. Thank you for sharing.

[@gretchenthies4909]

This was very fun. I am delighted. Thank you.

[@alexrodgers1501]

Wow! This is the best sounding cylinder I’ve ever heard, it’s better than many low end modern microphones.

[@kitterfoxx454]

Amazing that this cylinder still exists

[@EricJamesHanson]

Just a wonderful recording and a wonderful machine too!

[@TechTins_Projects]

Wow I love this stuff. Up till today I did not even know that I did.

[@danielarick2105]

Quite a good sound for a record of 120 years age hope that is still around in another 120 years Good Luck Music Box Box.

[@Kennephone]

The physical record, sadly won't be around then, brown was is very prone to molding, and it's a matter of when and not if. If kept in a room with minimal humidity it'll help, but it'll still happen. In 120 years there probably will be no brown wax left, except for maybe some in museams and those recorded in the modern day.

[@fluffydacutedog2065]

I love Christmas 🎄🙂

[@caspence56]

There is a wonderful collection of these incredible old Edison Christmas recordings available for your listening enjoyment....just type in "Voices of Christmas Past". I love to hear the music my Grandparents were listening to in the early years of the 20th century. I truly hope these vintage treasures are preserved and cherished forever.

[@chompo7]

that was really fun and such a beautiful machine too!

[@pgh45rpms]

The one who sings "Jingle Bells" sounds like Henry Burr. Likely played at Christmas back then.

[@scotnick59]

Simply a fascinating "experience"!!!

[@elizabethmurphy4880]

WOW just WOW! Amazing

[@Doorkicker505]

Wow!! That sounded pretty good.

[@williampalenik7306]

Sounded great neat how these cylinders still sound good for how old they are

[@Andy-im3kj]

I think one day very very soon we could scan these records into our national archives and we could all have access to those recordings. I can't imagine how many more historical records are out there just waiting to be found!

[@GeorgeTheGentleman]

I do my own transfers on my channel to try to achieve this! I have some Christmas ones I’m getting to

[@dajser]

holy shit this recording is very good quality

[@paulj0557tonehead]

Oh' so much more than just a novel contraption. It's a time machine! I highly recommend the book - ' From Tin Foil To Stereo ' by Oliver Read & Walter L. Welch 549pp published 1959, and I have the 2nd edition from 1976 I'm reading. Don't know if there was a publication after that, but it tells the whole history of the phonograph, including it's opening chapter which explains mans fascination with sounds before the phonograph... and has a chapter on the Bettini Story too:) Merry Christmas Everyone!

[@smadaf]

At last! Someone else who knows From Tin Foil to Stereo. There is a modern edition, which is supposed to be a big improvement on the old one. The modern edition is awful compared to the old one. Stick with the one from 1959.

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@transformingArt You are most welcome! Always nice to see your comments. This cylinder plays best at about 130 rpm. I have a number of slightly earlier brown wax cylinders that play best at 120 rpm! I've never found any Bettini cylinders so you're very lucky to have found one.

[@jameswyma9849]

how is this so clear sounding?!?!?!? dang this is amazing

[@bobbyroy84]

awesome! AWESOME!

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@WinterHaven Thanks for your comments! This particular cylinder is actually pretty clear from beginning to end. As far as fixing, I do any required mechanical repairs on my own machines but the records themselves really cannot be repaired, generally speaking.

[@therestorationofdrwho1865]

Looks like an old style bread box when it's closed haha.

[@therestorationofdrwho1865]

Also, how do you clean a wax cylinder? Does the max have a high melting temperature?

[@martycouser6098]

rush b

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@WinterHaven Thanks for the nice comments. I learned little by little by disassembling a few of my music machines and putting them back together long ago to see how they worked. It was fun for me (and still is) and I learned a lot as I discovered the subtle differences among the different machines I own.

[@johnm893]

wonderful......

[@johnnietocuellar742]

muy buena y nostalgica con la navidad de antes

[@gramaphoneman1]

No sir, this is most likely 1899 but is not earlier than 1898. The Paris office was opened in March 1898 and all previous Columbia recordings stated, "for the Columbia Phonograph Company of New York City". These are much rarer, lower in volume, and very difficult to find today.

[@brucestinchcomb6673]

New York and Paris brown wax cylinders are (mainly 1898, "99. 1897 Columbia brown wax are also not so strongly recorded as this. Earlier than 1897 Columbia cylinders are Washington D. C., before they moved to N Y C.

[@Paul1963music]

Está súper genial !!!!! Me encantó !!!!

[@MichaelBeeny]

Sound is much the same as a modern mobile phone!

[@VanGak]

Fantastic upload! Had a mysterious song named "Quartet - Sewage Party" that appeared to be this one. Lord knows how many ways you could misinterpret the words on these old cylinders.

[@yy19aos]

i want one of these machines and an edison 4 minute player

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@chompo7 Thanks chompo7! I'm pleased that you enjoyed this one and your comments on the Eagle are much appreciated as well. I'd not yet featured this machine on KZbin. I was pleased to find such a nice original example with an unusually quiet motor for such an early machine.

[@tuxiclassicpage]

3:09 "Sleigh Ride" conversation and song begins. Merry Christmas 2022 (Early, but coming soon enough!)

[@trailkeeper]

About how many inches per second does the cylinder rotate? I'm thinking that matters besides the revolution speed, because cylinders could in theory be larger or smaller in diameter and the inches persecond would change. I'm guessing it would be something like the circumference measured in inches times the (revolutions per second).

[@khurramhasan7036]

The typical speed for wax recording cylinders is 120RPM

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@WinterHaven Yes. Just about anything mechanical that needs repair on my machines I can fix. I don't ever touch the original finish on the machines though.

[@Crazy4Collins]

Amazing!

[@MarkMphonoman]

Love Len Spencer!

[@MusicBoxBoy]

You are very welcome. Thank you for the nice comments.

[@gjacobson76]

That sounds a lot like Arthur Collins, he was America's first pop singer. Do you know who is on the recording?

[@Crazy4Collins]

It's not Arthur Collins.

[@autisticrebel1253]

does it that Columbia eagle have a double spring motor? because the size of the drum that the spring is in it looks like there are two springs in there. It runs very well.

[@ozone_stuff]

Wow, it sound really cool! KZbin really is a time machine huh

[@saradamoni9783]

It is regrettable that great men and women of that time did not record their voices or did record but were not properly kept for posterity.I know one instance of Swami Vivekananda an Indian monk who did record his lecture in 1900 on a cylindrical record but was mutilated for inadequate care.

[@TheJoeyNinja]

Does the main speaker/singer roll his Rs for distinction?

[@troysvisualarts]

Amazing quality sound for mechanical means of recording/playback, thanks for sharing. BTW I notice you have a stuffed Tweety Bird toy on the floor partially in shot at 5:00 lol ;)

[@TechTins_Projects]

Is there any information any where about the players on this music? Would love to find out who they were. or just more info on this recording.

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@EdisonSquirrel Thanks for your much appreciated and interesting comments, Rocky!

[@Nostalgico80]

@EmmetEarwax It's not fully exact. Until a fifteen recorders per session were used. On tinfoil.com you'll see interesting pictures of that era showing this way of recording.

[@2fast4you25]

I have a none working one. Im looking to get it restored, seen this is a shame to have it not working. Its the exact same model and set up. 👌👌👌👌👌👌

[@HappyDiscoDeath]

I don't know which is cooler, the recording or the phonograph! I also must admit that it's interesting that the song was found by the copyright filter; one would think that a song this old would be in the public domain! *shrug*

[@MusicBoxBoy]

@philt666 Thanks phil! Good to know that information. I often wonder what buildings and so forth are left from the times since these early recordings were new. Thank again for sharing the info!

[@theechickengamerz]

we need restored audio

[@nikos8247]

Phonograph: from the greek words phoni (φωνή) = voice and graph (γράφω) = write or copy. So it's the one that can copy (write) the voice..

[@MrGer2295]

Merry Christmas everyone :) :) :)

[@Muswell]

The thing with these cylinders is that they only recorded 4 live performances at the same time (ie a recorder with 4 funnels). . So, to produce quite a few dozen or more, would have taken endless performances.

[@Kennephone]

They also would dub them pantographically, which is basically a combination cutter/player to transfer the vibrations directly from a master, but I don't think they did that until about 1900.

[@edgarallanpoestheblackcat6613]

I wish they would had made a disc version of this

[@MagicofIreland]

Amazing bends your head as was said a time machine

[@jerryking45]

Anyone know what year the absolute oldest recording is??

[@AidanTheLoverBoyOhDwyer]

i know how prerecorded vinyls and prerecorded shellacs were made from the masters but have no ides how prerecorded wax cylinders were mass produced from the masters? Please enlighten us?

[@thenorthamericanphonograph1039]

The master cylinder was made a larger tpi, 97 1/3 tpi for 100 tpi product, or 194.6 for a four minute record, it is recorded on a studio phonograph, at the time An Edison Triumph (a model up from the one used, the Home was $30.00 and the Triumph $50.00) and the recorder floated on the record, called a trailing recorder, it had an advance ball, and super sensitive gaskets and diaphragm, you could manually change the depth of cut, the machine also had a flywheel for smoother speed. Next the cylinder master is put on a mandrel in a vacuum. The top of the mandrel has an iron disc, and a huge magnet spins around the outside of the bell jar. Also in the bell jar is two strips of pure gold, the wires lead to an induction coil (about 10,000 volts DC), the magnet is spun by a motor, the cylinder spins inside the jar, the induction coil energized. The gold molecules want to go from one leaf to the other; however the master is in the way, it gets a thin coating of gold, making the non conductive metallic soap master conductive to electricity now. The master is put in a holder, and attached to a motor, and put in a tank of copper sulfate, distilled water, and a little sulfuric acid, the master has a wire and a copper brush connected to it, and then anodes of copper, as the record turns, a shell of copper forms around it. After about a 1/16" of copper forms around the master, it is put on a lathe, and the thin end trimmed until the end of the cylinder is seen, and then put in an ice box, the wax master shrinks leaving the grooves in the metal cylinder master mould. The master mold is used to make mother cylinders, and these plated to make working molds. A machine had a heater, and the moulds heated until about 120F, then they were put down a chute, an automatic charger, squirted 130 grams of 290 F molten, liquid, hard, black, aluminum metallic soap and wax into the mold. The mold whirls down the machine, which is long enough for the wax compound to cool enough to retain it's shape, on 3 rubber rollers, the machine is slanted downward. The molds then are put on a lathe, with water cooled tools that make ribs on the inside, a taper to fit the mandrel, and trim the thin end and cove it. After this they are put in a water cooled cage the copies shrink out of the mold, and then put on warm (100F) metal cores on boards, the cores are long enough for these to be stacked in a warm room. After two hours the metal cores are pressed out with a hand press and the records are ready to box and ship. This process was used about 1902, previous to this, blanks were made and recorded upon like above, or were put on a pantagraph machine, that had a recording and playback stylus, a master cylinder on the top and blank on the bottom the master played with a sapphire ball, and the copy cut with a round scoop shaped sapphire. the weights and springs copied the grooves from one record to another.

[@thenorthamericanphonograph1039]

Sorry the above explanation was for Edison and Columbia Moulded records made after 1902. These brown metallic soap records (1889-1901) were made by the pantagraph as stated above, or were recorded by the round, the artist sang into the horns of several recording phonographs, vibrated a .005-.0085" glass diaphragm held in natural rubber gaskets, on the bottom of the recorder diaphragm is a .039" sapphire recording stylus or knife, when sounds hits the diaphragm, it vibrates to the frequency and amplitude of the sound, and a feed screw drives the head along the record, making the groove spacing. The record is brushed off, boxed and sent to dealers. On my channel is the full chemical composition of these cylinders made, and shows the master recorder cutting the brown wax records. I make the compound (aluminum soap) and mould the blank records, shave and record upon them.

[@RalphDratman]

@@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 That is a remarkable explanation! Thank you. I had no idea the process was once so complex.

[@meagain2222]

I can't believe the low background noise level.

[@jmj4879]

très beau!

[@Hendo56]

Looks a lot more compact than Edison's machines. I still don't see... how putting grooves in a wax cylinder captures one's voice or music.

[@romeodeglispiriti4376]

When everyone use their smartphones but you re stuck to your fav ipod.

[@Oldtimemusiclover]

Is this record for sale?!

[@DixiesNewSong]

They sell a reproduction of this exact cylinder on Vulcan records www.vulcanrecords.com/shop/brown-wax-era-records/sleigh-ride-party/ if you live in the U.S the total cost of record and shipping is about $85

[@annawitt8794]

good slection i have a bronewax cyilender arkinsawtravler played by len spencer

[@BlazeMaster]

Was this like a series of recordings ?

[@carlosp2806]

I wonder if an Ipod can survive 120 years

[@DougMcDave]

How did you clean up the sound so well?

[@ThanhNguyen-pg6pc]

Đo hoai co that tuyet voi

[@reitweg]

Cudne. Super eksponat.

[@waderaney7]

👍😀

[@yaboimaxwell9031]

Are these windup graphophones cheap?

[@HazelTheHare]

+dalekman tardis No. Depends how old and how rare they are. On average ive seen Edison cylinder phonographs run around £250 - £500 and 1920's - 30's disc gramophones for around the same price.

[@yaboimaxwell9031]

Dang. Maybe I'll find one at a garage sale someday.

[@HazelTheHare]

You'd be very lucky. I'd recommend antique fairs. Are you after a cylinder machine or a flat disc (record) machine?

[@yaboimaxwell9031]

Any of them.

[@HazelTheHare]

Portable gramophones are probably best and cheapest for starters. But remember these things are old and will probably require some work if you want them to play nicely.

[@theechickengamerz]

why uploaded on halloween

[@judahsmall3023]

A year after this was filmed, Dr. Denmark was born. She was a famous pediatrician; who is the co-founder of the whopping cough vaccine. She died in 2012 at the age of 114. Sad to know that people born in her time and the time this was filmed are deceased.

[@christianweatherbroadcasting]

Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way. We deserve Hell because we've sinned. Lied, lusted stolen, etc. But God sent his son to die on the cross and rise out of the grave. We can receive forgiveness from Jesus. Repent and put your trust in him. John 3:16 Romans 3:23❤😊❤❤😊

[@theechickengamerz]

POWERED BY A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE???????

[@lowlightpiano7110]

Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven. John 3:16 Romans 3:23❤😊❤😊

[@danielthompson5785]

People were so weird back then.