SLIP TEST - gen 4 Honda CR-V Real Time AWD - MT vs AT - different results! -

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Four examples of the same model and four different test results - in other words - the fourth generation of the Honda CR-V. First, we check the crucial thing, that is the ability of the rear axle to push the car - MTs have a serious problem with this, ATs cope better. Then, in the side test, we check the rear axle deleay - here again, ATs are better but only the 1.6 i-DTEC BiTurbo 9AT version engages (slightly) the rear axle in the off-throttle position.

[@Adi-s2i]

1.6 160 hp uses a very advanced ZF9hp AT gearbox

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Adi-s2i ​It probably doesn't matter which AT is used. Every AT performs better than MT.

[@mf____]

@@Adi-s2i I guess, it does not matter how advanced the gearbox, but the gear ratio definitely has an effect. zf9hp has a very short first gear.

[@a1naruth]

rear axle delay was supposedly mitigated in 2015 lifting. What I am missing in this comparison is 2.0 VTEC with old 5-gear AT. With less gears it may be worse in distributing momentum from a standstill, than this 9-gear AT paired with the diesel.

[@mf____]

@@a1naruth I guess, it is mainly coming down to the much higher crawl ratio of the zf9, that acts almost like a low range. (Twenty-something as I recall). Also the much torquier diesel has it's benefits. Other than that the programming of the AWD/rear diff is probably the same on the 2 versions. This week I completed some tests on snowy hill slopes and it could climb them slowly and steadily while I guess the older AT either cannot spin the wheel or the wheels start spinning out.

[@hypergolic8468]

Absolutely brilliant and thanks for all the effort you have put in to this (and all the people who've lent the cars :) ). I must admit my Honda CR-v 2014 (manual 2.2 i-Dtec) model is coming up to ten years old, and watching all the stories go back and forth (the famous Swedish test, fix then removing the fix), it's sad that a company like Honda (even with main dealer service bulletins) never really got to grips with this. What I can say (not disputing your tests), is that, running M+S tyres Michelin Tour Latitude HPs / Cross Climate SUV's on it over the years it's got me around Switzerland and Scotland in Winter without issue, it's got me through muddy (really muddy!) fields in the UK in winter, and it's trimmed the car up when I hit black ice. I'm going to run the car to the final big bill however, it's at a 145,000 miles (233354 KM) and it still drives as the day I picked it up. But thanks for doing this.

[@FuriousHondaBoy]

Very good editing video and without any word everything is clear.

[@secret5.]

I like the comparison. It would be fun to see this on the Highlander generations. I've had the first 3 and it's always seemed like the 2nd gen with full time 4wd does the best in our harsh winters.

[@miguelojera2356]

In other markets, this generation of CRV can be had with a 2.4L engine. The pre-facelift version was a 5 speed automatic and the facelifted model was a CVT. Maybe the programming of the AWD system was also different. Great video as always 🔥

[@andreykakitis7025]

Спасибо дружище за обзор.Понятно,что автоматическая коробка и дизель лучше всех!А бензин и мануал огорчили слегка.Но я для себя решил,что лучше брать машины после 2019 года.У них там полный привод организован лучше,судя по тестам.Но там нет дизеля,от которого сейчас все отказываются.

[@LilDiabloRob]

Wish us over here in the USA was able to get a manual 4WD CRV after 2006. I had an 04 4WD CRV EX MT. Had to get rid of it due to rust and rot. To add, 4/AWD CRVs need Helical Diff or LSD center and NOT rely on electrical assists.

[@An.Individual]

Honda win in F1 but these cars seem to struggle with the basic AWD tests

[@FuriousHondaBoy]

This is more 4x4 test then AWD

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

​@@FuriousHondaBoyIf you consider cars with four wheels then it doesn't matter if it's called 4x4, 4WD or AWD, they all may be the same. Definitions are only colloquial, not formal.

[@mf____]

Nice test thank you! This somehow resonates with my experiences, I managed to unstuck myself from deep mud and snow many times with the 1.6 AT AWD. I guess, it is mostly because of the huge low-level torque and the very short first gear of the AT version ~4.7. Only difference I had is that for me the awd engages at start when I put to sport mode, first wheel does not slip at all.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@mf____ Thank you for sharing your experience!

[@Arek771y]

Not great, not terrible. As Honda fan and owner would say that it is on solid Toyotas AWD-i level

[@Adi-s2i]

1.6 i-dtec with zf 9hp is the best gearbox ever fitted to a honda all time

[@cuzar]

Your channel is a serious database - amazing stuff!!! But now Im a bit lost after seeing these CRVs performing so poorly. What do you think - which SUV suitable for family are the most reliable, cheap to run and maintain, have decent awd systems and under 15k EUR ? Thanks!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@cuzar Thank you! Unfortunately I am not able to answer, my knowledge is limited to awd systems, I don't know much about other factors and prices.

[@kenneth2405]

It seems there are two types of AWD systems, one is a dual pump and the other an electronic module. It would be interesting to see the difference of both systems with the 2.4L since is the most popular engine in this model, also both with an AT.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@kenneth2405 There is no dual pump system in gen 4.

[@johnfreeman2956]

hello! I would love to see a 2025 Camry AWD. It has an electric motor on the front and an electric motor on the back, so I think it would be interesting!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@johnfreeman2956 Hello. Not sure if we can find Camry but there are Rav4 and Yaris Cross on our channel, they use similar setup (electric motors).

[@zygmuntzarzecki]

bedzie czesc 2 z 3 kółkami na rolkach?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@zygmuntzarzecki Pomijając i-DTEC AT, to już była 🙂

[@735art]

Test the Toyota Fortuner 4x4 please

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@735art If we only find it...

[@meercm]

Absolute disgrace of a system. Couldnt take me anywhere which my friends subaru xv took him.

[@何文昌-d9p]

All model not

[@FuriousHondaBoy]

Need 2.2 Diesel AT(5 speed) ,U.S. made 2.4 liter AWD 12'-14' automatic and 15'-16' CVT for a complete circle of all model 4th gen CR-V . I offer 2016 2.4 with CVT but he must come to Bosnia

[@7285-g5o]

На 1.6 I-DTEC далеко в грязь вы не полезете! Там стоит проблемный автомат ZF... В отличии от автомата хонда,ресурс у него маленький!

[@Adi-s2i]

not really, the zf9hp had a 10 year warranty with no km limit