SM64 Speedrunning just had 3 Big Discoveries…

[@Chazzza]

Can't wait to start spamming "ASSLESS modCheck" in all of Simply's 120 runs from here on out

[@halfaheartbongobongo]

people have already started doing this OMEGALUL

[@phoneticfinatic2710]

Don’t forget to spam “NEW ROUTE modCheck” after dark world

[@omniferousswan593]

When he said the game is 26 years old my brain went, "That's not possible, because I'm only... oh shit"

[@iansarsenal]

yeap... it really do be like that

[@LanceWillMakeIt]

Dang lol

[@bigpapapage7165]

Lol you and me both my friend…I was like wait how old was I when i got it for Christmas???

[@beardalaxy]

I'm 26 ;_;

[@LieseFury]

26 gang

[@tanmanharris4820]

2:10 had a crazy nostalgia moment hearing that Bomber Man 64 music. I always find it crazy how music can become so deep rooted in our brains that you can hear a song that you haven’t heard since you were a child and immediately be transported back to that moment

[@bobsmith93]

The song is Blue Resort, and same here. Huge nostalgia dose every time I hear the music from that game

[@BASEDSAKRI]

bomberman hero might be my fav game ost, never played 64 tho

[@JusteazyGames]

"We all know and love carpetless!" Me, someone who knows nothing about this but was recommended this video for whatever reason: Ah, yes, I sure know what that thing you just said is!

[@coleRG]

It's a wonderful speedrunning game and a great community, you should stick around! :)

[@tomhammond3495]

Carpetless is a super hard way of doing the magic carpet star without the use of the magic carpet.

[@spimbles]

yeah, i, too, wish that people wouldnt reply to a joke with genuine attempts at trying to inform you and get you reeled in. cmon niggas if this person cared enough to find out what it meant, they woulda done it long before your input 💀💀💀

[@denest8537]

You kids are too young to know what carpetless ACTUALLY means 🐱

[@morenoh149]

Never gets old

[@mysteriousghosts935]

this new route is really hard but getting so much hard thing in the start of a run is really smart Like if in the future we could get a better carpetless setup it would be insane cause we got all the level available and maybe do some minor change depending of who is playing

[@Elijah-ed5xk]

You do add sblj early on so even more resets (independently of carpetless which is bonkers obviously)

[@mysteriousghosts935]

@@Elijah-ed5xk yes obviously it’s gonna be so frustrating but it could be a good thing

[@zachrohbock6821]

It’s not practical. I think it took the first person months just to do carpetless. And I’m pretty sure only 1 or 2 people have ever done it. You need to preform multiple glitchy wall kicks, which involve colliding with a wall on your first quarter step, then having the perfect angle and position to collide with a different wall on a later quarter step. If a runner ran that route regularly and practiced a ton I would imagine they’d still only get through RR less than 10 times a year. These tricks are just that precise. No one will likely finish an RTA run of that route

[@mysteriousghosts935]

@@zachrohbock6821 yes but if we could find a better setup with less hard input it " could be " considered

[@Squavez.]

@@mysteriousghosts935 bruh

[@jacksonsmith2955]

Super Mario 64 is now too old to date Leonardo DiCaprio.

[@ianschwartz08]

LMAO

[@alexpotts6520]

That first trick is the sort of thing that will occasionally get discovered and prevent an optimised 120 TAS from ever existing. They'll get ten minutes from the end of the TAS and then a new trick will be discovered and they'll be like, "hold up, we can save 11 frames in Jolly Roger Bay." Then they'll edit the Jolly Roger Bay segment and everything after that will desync so they'll have to redo it...

[@pedlar6839]

I feel like this comes from personal experience

[@Numberplay]

@@pedlar6839 this is why 100% TAS are so rare because there are always new tricks found

[@AspectCave]

@@Numberplay the reason there is that if you save a frame, you cant simply copy the other inputs that doesnt affect the movie itself, you gotta do all the way back and create a new one

[@abcdefghilihgfedcba]

@@AspectCave That depends. I’m pretty sure SM64 TASing has gotten to the point where desyncs aren’t an issue anymore, but I could be wrong. Anyway desyncs usually happen due to RNG changing when you improve an ealier segment, but depending on how the RNG behaves in a game you can either manipulate it or just by luck it can sync anyway so it’s not always a problem.

[@anthonyrebuffo9509]

IT STILL HAS SAUSE?

[@MrLee64]

Damn that's a lot of sauce

[@lagspike7763]

A lot of sause you mean

[@sonyabladesbooty3890]

Why doesnt my dad love me

[@Pitau87]

@@sonyabladesbooty3890 because your real father doesn't even know you exist

[@lagspike7763]

@@sonyabladesbooty3890 Maybe working on your spelling will help

[@tim..indeed]

Imagine having a thousand attempts at the last route only to get carpetless once and then you fall down the very next stage losing the 17s advantage.

[@jimmyewald]

Update: Carpetless is real and repeatable. This is the reality we now live in.

[@towioida]

its so crazy how he talks about carpetless being a distant dream, that has now become a standard-strat for top runners😂 amazing!

[@pukalo]

You don’t have to imagine a consistent carpetless anymore lol

[@Viva04]

I absolutely love 1:34 :-D Thats the kind of content i like! Totally got me offguard and made me laugh

[@dreamisover9813]

Great narration and pacing. I had never heard about Swim Strength Preservation or Assless despite watching some people speedrunning the game.

[@ValeryValWho]

I've never speedrun the game, not even watched a full speedrun of it... and yet, I found your video fascinating!

[@fernandogarciadeviedma2009]

This new route is made strategically so runner's have a more broad selection of routes since they are indeed going to be getting the hard things out first and then doing the rest.

[@asKleip]

Awesome video guys! Great explanation and editing. Wondering how SSP is allowed for single star attempts since it requires a setup from a previous interaction with water (outside of the single star in question). Or am I missing something?

[@mclainv]

My gut is telling me that this is something we already do. For instance, any star that uses wing cap means that Mario has to interact with the wing cap switch already. To even enter vanish cap means that the mote has (in all likelihood) already been drained, outside of the stage. So maybe setups before a level are just a thing that's already allowed

[@ziwuri]

I guess stuff before the star is allowed in order to simulate a full run.

[@rosilinathedragon4382]

even today i can’t believe this game STILL has new strats being made, it’s awesome

[@PhantomFox77]

If Summoning Salt videos have taught me anything, a new strat will be used no matter how hard, once everything else has been squeezed dry for timesaves.

[@GTM_]

yeah maybe not for a while, more likely ever, in this game's cas e

[@iwersonsch5131]

I frankly don't see Carpetless being done without Early VC. Now early VC is a whole nother beast, I think it's 14 frame-perfect BLJs with a setup that hasn't been looked into yet (I think TAS rapidly moves the joystick so copying that exact strat won't be viable), but the thing is that without early VC, any early carpetless route has to go to DDD twice and that's just not worth it cause it eats up too much of the timesave. On the other hand, early VC and nothing else would probably save as much as that entire early carpetless route, and the trick would be in the first minute of the run (and it would even excuse noping out of LBLJ since you'd have 1 star for WF and wouldn't have to visit BoB twice)

[@seranyaa]

🤓

[@TheGaming100]

just getting into VC by itself would save a large amount of that time, even without being able to enter basement early

[@iwersonsch5131]

@@TheGaming100 Absolutely yes, entering the basement early would likely not make sense in 120 since you need BitDW reds and VCutM reds at some point anyway

[@1gnore_me.]

honestly I could see the new route becoming the new standard when/if we find a more consistent and reliable way to do carpetless.

[@mookymookymooo]

I appreciate this type of content a lot more than just edited VODs

[@luckiertwin2]

I like both. I think Simply’s personality is entertaining.

[@Blernster]

Yeah I haven't watched one of cheeses videos in a while because that's all they are

[@retrix2843]

What was that song at the end it feels so familiar

[@regulator062]

I don’t think Carpetless early will be the standard route for top runners unless a setup is found for the trick. However if that is the case one nice part about the route is you don’t just get carpetless done early, you get other hard stars over with such as DDD100, Firesea, and SBLJ. Not to mention the rest of Rainbow Ride. Would be a very interesting route if Carpetless becomes more viable one day for sure.

[@Enuchful]

Yeah. Granted, if a new setup is found, it will have to be no less than 17 seconds slower than doing it the current way.

[@regulator062]

@@Enuchful Right. Not only that, if a setup was found that was at least decently consistent it might be more likely runners would just do the standard route instead, as it saves more time.

[@JavaScripting64]

Can’t just tack on SBLJ like that, it’s such a low percentage trick which is not currently in 120. That plus carpetless 120 star runs reset rate would become unbearable.

[@CarlosHernandez-el4oc]

You might as well do the rest of tippy as well while you are there

[@sheltongolden4394]

0:18 My socks are still thoroughly on. Give me my money back! *realizes he didn't pay any money* Okay, we're settled then..

[@sniglett7581]

"Imagine the Nerves" soulless 4 flashbacks

[@azmodaus1647]

does anyone know the music that plays at 3:30 til about 5:15

[@mt2r-music]

I’ve got a question for all these speedruns. How do you prove someone is using a tool assistant? Im not too deep into speedrunning but I often see runs of runners who do not show their controller inputs.

[@S0ME_GUY]

If the video says TAS its a tas, if they do inhuman inputs its tas

[@AndrewBlechinger]

These days the TAS and RTA communities tend to work together, so as such it's considered unethical to use tool assistance without disclosing stuff. But as to your question of how they're caught, I can't really tell you how the sausage is made there.

[@jtaiv2798]

It's hard to fake imo

[@LazurBeemz]

What's the music at 5:55?

[@HitoHitoNoMiChromosome]

That carpetless was fkin sick! I'm about to add that to my 16 star run for swag

[@rubixtheslime]

Well go beat Bowser, but first, this run was sponsored by Raid Carpetless

[@nhooj8882]

I... I hope you're joking.

[@LanceWillMakeIt]

This video is fire. This is the best vibe from KZbin Simply

[@-dash]

Question about SM64: for the input viewer in the bottom-left, how many possible x/y coordinates are there? In other words, what’s the resolution for the analog stick? I’m used to SNES, which in some ways is easier to reproduce inputs, but other ways it’s harder since it’s 60 FPS and very punishing

[@renakunisaki]

The stick itself has 256 possible values for each axis. I don't know if the game discards some of them.

[@TheFinalChapters]

If you can do carpetless early, you can do carpetless late. The time save compared to early carpetless would be massive. Sure, you'll lose a lot of runs to failing carpetless, but you just need that one god run...

[@ziwuri]

You get an exponential amount more attempts at it if you do it at the start. To me (someone who's never played mario before) it seems obvious to farm early carpetless attempts and once you get it, do safe strats and claim your 5+ second wr.

[@TheFinalChapters]

@@ziwuri Yeah, but that's the problem. You can't just "do safe strats" for the rest of the run and expect to still get the world record. I readily admit that early carpetless would take less time to get a run going that includes carpetless. But it would also have far more runs that die *after* already getting carpetless. It also sacrifices a ton of the time gained from carpetless to do this. If you're banking on carpetless either way, you might as well go all in on it and do it when you get to the level normally.

[@Taygon45]

@@ziwuri But once a player does early carpetless enough times they start getting confident in doing it late. It's a long time in the future, or it's in a few weeks. Speedrunners are a different breed.

[@Agent5061]

I thought the same. The time save is alot better doing it later for sure

[@riverm5889]

carpetless late in a real run is literally never happening in our lifetime without a better setup. Realistically you could probably get a consistency at carpetless of 1/200 for the best players on a really good day. If you are spending 10 minutes for every attempt to get that 1/200 attempt, it would take about 2000 minutes to even get an attempt going, let alone the fact you have 90% of the run left. Also its not even that significant a time save of 20 seconds. The best players can save 20 sec in easier places. If you did carpetless late into your run with nerves on a decent pace, it takes about 90 minutes to get to RR. Someone like Liam who has taken nearly a year to even get a NORMAL route wr/pb means you multiply 200 more times he would have to get a pb pace run to RR and thats like 200 years. Im usually a believer in impossible feats but late carpetless is just on another level of impossible.

[@Camp_Dogs]

i remember buying this in 1999 on my birthday thinking it was brand new on the shelves. So confused.

[@AeroOnly]

My socks are still on my feet. Where is my money?

[@Londowa]

Pop filter ModCheck 😂 great video as always Simply!!!

[@Chillgolfer9664]

I remember back then when Xiah pull off Carpetless with a full segment run without saves states. I could be wrong, but god damm this is hard.

[@antwilder]

I'm glad ppl still keep these games alive...I have a PS5 but I always go back and play the older Gen

[@chanceForNotBeingRapper]

it indeed has high popularity some retro games on steam only had 1-5 players daily, assuming only speedrunners played them often, even on sale the player base is under 50 sm64 is hell of an achievement for being a retro game on modern streaming platforms

[@LowPoly64]

I used to always wonder how some glitches were actually discovered. But very recently I've accidentally encountered the bob-omb acceleration and the moneybag clone.

[@iss2075]

Yeah, as a child I clipped through the Chain Chomp gate in Bob-Omb Battlefield, and it was without using the bob-omb strat which speedrunners used, I just ran at the gate for ages at different angles and eventually went through it. The reason I did this was because I had no idea how to get the star. And I could never replicate it again, to the point that I started wondering if I dreamed it lol. But then many years later I saw it done in a TAS video on KZbin.

[@natebit5781]

@@iss2075 Do you by chance know what TAS it was from? I'm very curious, I didn't know you could clip through by running into it.

[@dv_xl]

I like these highly produced and technical videos Simply my man

[@sagacious03]

Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@SlowChemicalXV]

I'm not sure if it's an issue with my device or on my end, but the ad frequency on this video is insanity

[@rogersasanka3408]

What if I used A Button Challenge strats in speedruns? Frame Perfect Squish cancels, Spawning Displacement, cloning, etc.

[@superdejan64]

i've thought about this but tbh i don't see where it could be useful

[@music-channel69]

Nice touch with the Bomberman 64 Blue Resort BGM. My fav game.

[@kchrules775]

Over 26 years old? Doesn’t have a chance with Leo now

[@TheCJRhodes]

Hello you absolute legends.

[@thomasfessler1109]

hey does someone have the name of the music we hear at 5min54 ?

[@murderedx8018]

My socks are already off simply. What now?

[@JanjoZone]

SM64 just won't quit.

[@Pokepunk]

so hyped every time a video like this comes out even though ill never do it

[@Cooltigerkook]

Love these type of videos

[@lxdicrous4413]

If rr early ever gets implemented it would probably be the hardest strat in any speedrun it would be insane

[@antilarge7860]

M64 and OOT continue to have new things found. Absolutely wonderful

[@Druckerpatrone]

So because carpetless is a thing now, does it mean the carpetlessroute is possible? 2 BLJs and a SBLJ doe not seem impossible

[@thornesse]

Its possible, but doing carpetless at the end like we do now saves 50 seconds so there is no reason to do it early because it will possibly end like cannonless consistency.

[@perks6292]

I WAS thinking breasts... how did you know?!

[@backtre8776]

Dude that Bomberman 64 music , gave me way too many unexpected emotions

[@D_Winds]

What a time to be alive...

[@Jadenity]

More of these types of vids, please!

[@RobotProctor]

Assless becomes more viable with the new route, too And any other ultimate strat in tippy you want to use.

[@sumerhays]

Thanks for breaking this down, and every discovery is a big deal!

[@hectorg5809]

simply my man, love the videos. just wish you would have reacted a little harder for these pretty big discoveries. looking forward to more vids

[@ismaeeeeeeel05]

i think circumark also showed a new carpetless route that uses HOLP

[@po1sonseede9001]

Huh, I've been doing assless for years, I assumed people knew it existed already. Of course I didn't call it assless.

[@Chillgolfer9664]

I love Mario64 techniques because of bismuth's every glitches and technique video, thanks to him, it inspire me to learn each technique and watch runs to pull off even lower, I like Speed runners achieve their goals, not a speed runner, but I'm entertain. P.S. Simply is a god. 🙂

[@Chillgolfer9664]

one more thing I think this 120 star route might be one of the hardest route now at this point. Legend of Zelda Wind Waker 😞

[@Chillgolfer9664]

at this point

[@Chillgolfer9664]

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[@TheKDX7]

Are the first technique usefull for TAS ?

[@alexiscarvajal4304]

Man i give it max 7 years before we see a tryhard early carpetless run, maybe not wr but i can see desperate people among the top 15 speedruners that are willing to try

[@ludwigpaulsen1707]

Chatting Liam does this

[@newts6402]

This game gets manipulated so much, terminal montage is gonna have some fun with this knowledge.

[@aurafox1]

As cool as these discoveries are, my socks are definitely still on my feet, sir.

[@bloodwolf2609]

Maybe Carpetless is harder than I understand, but after 20 years of infinitely resetting the first 3 stages theres gotta be thousands of hours of practice in the first few stages, compared to carpetless not even bothering to attempt it in a run because of how late it is, it seems like if you do choose to go for carpetless and reset hundreds on times there, or at least a similar amount of times that already get reset for cannonless owless and whatever else, might end up being worth a 17 second cut, but obviously relearning a new route is already tricky from muscle memory by default.

[@Elijah-ed5xk]

Carpetless is insanely hard even in single star, too hundreds of hours to do even once by top runners

[@bloodwolf2609]

@@Elijah-ed5xk ah ok, ty

[@Benjamslikestrains]

here's the thing, with a lot of other strats you can get consistent, like cannonless for example. you use the same exact texture, ledge grab, hold down and get it every single time. but in the same stage, there's a strat with an incorner gwk that can save time. it's not done in fullgame, because it's precise down to the quarterframe, and it's pretty much impossible to get it consistent, and theres no way to make a setup. for carpetless, not only is there no way to make a setup, you have to do 2 gwks back to back, so it's insanely unviable

[@bloodwolf2609]

@@Benjamslikestrains why do people talk about it like its a reasonable thing to expect? is it just a meme "haha let me do carpetless" because I feel like people talk about it like its viable

[@Benjamslikestrains]

@@bloodwolf2609 i feel like it's just the hope that it could be viable one day, since its a huge 57s timesave if you manage to do it late and that could absolutely destroy the WR, though part of it is definitely people memeing. i am usually someone who is very optimistic about these sorts of strats, but it being one of the hardest things to do in the game at all makes me think that stuff like lbljing multiple times will happen before carpetless will be performed in a fullgame run once. at most, if someone is less than a minute behind they might throw an attempt at it and miraculously get it, but that's the only way i see it happening

[@Cosmalano]

We’re learning a lot about sblj itself rn, stay tuned!

[@PerfectlyLost]

but i dont want to lose my socks :(

[@shinobiqueenv6583]

I thought the ENTIRE hatred of carpetless was that its not worth doing THAT LATE in the run. If being able to go there first, saves almost 20 seconds, why not make that the start point?

[@gaysfortrump2024]

because you still don't do it first thing in the run lkke simply said there's still some stuff to do first. then doing it is still nearly impossible. so you're spending like 10 minutes before you get there for like 1/1000 chance to pull it off.

[@shinobiqueenv6583]

@@gaysfortrump2024 yeah but 10 mins of cakewalking to that attempt, would be better than an hour and change. Plus, you say 1/1000, but it's not like it's that impossible. It's only that hard because NOBODY commits to learning it, BECAUSE it's so late. Like, LBLJ isn't easy at all, but if you're doing it early in the run you got plenty more practice. Just imo.

[@alexpotts6520]

Pretty sure still only one person has achieved carpetless in real time, and it took him thousands of attempts... so realistically you're looking at grinding for weeks just to get past the first ten minutes of the run.

[@saltytech5546]

People don't like change. As people get better at the game your only option is to do the new route. All it takes is one person to do it to set the standard.

[@jadedjade64]

@@saltytech5546 until theres somehow a setup for carpetless that doesn’t take weeks of nonstop playing to actually get it in real time without savestates no one will do this route. not to mention that only 1 or 2 (can’t remember exactly) people have actually done carpetless without savestates. it already takes long enough on a bad day to get a run out of dark world, so to add sblj and carpetless to that would be absolutely insane at this point in time.

[@colin_henry1]

Reminds me of Minecraft. By far the most popular speed game ever and has over 200 million players, but we just discovered last night you can avoid fall damage with a glitch in (almost) any scenario

[@randoprior4130]

There has been a glitch to avoid fall damage since 1.9. nobody uses it though because it would then not be RSG. It would just be RS. Is this glitch different? Why would it be used in RSG if you can already do the quit and load glitch?

[@FishBias]

MY SOCKS ARE KNOCKED OFF

[@dextersdead]

me looking up “how to do carpetless” after this video, see you in 2030

[@Cracks094]

I didn't wear socks when watching this video, so you couldn't knock them off. I want my money back please, ty!

[@GrahamSiggins]

my favorite part was when he said "Breast" at 1:02

[@torreywhiting5402]

Will any of these help in ABC?

[@jazzensemble]

Imagine the nerves! 😂 carpetless will never be done in a 120 star WR. Oh god, I’ve heard this before. This means we might be only two years out from it happening 😅. Kinda ridiculous to think though. I’m sure a carpetless 120 star run is way harder than an FC of soulless 4 though, lol.

[@TheThirdPrice]

Well now I have no socks and no money, but hey, the video was great

[@alessio6880]

Loved the video

[@heyTachi]

Chatting Carpetless

[@Cainb23]

when i realized speedruns just wanted whatever the record is and not to push the game as much as possible no matter how hard the trick is, i lost a lot of interest in speedrunning

[@frkieran]

what

[@foreignuser_]

lmao this guy channels the 90s later afternoon local variety talk radio host so well. love the bad-attitude-with-plausible-deniability going on. gonna guess the owner of the channel is from the northeast. could be wrong but idk

[@ravssb]

1:34 how'd he know?

[@danield6740]

This is awesome!!

[@ozziegarceau-holmes4475]

The end of this reminds me a lot of acai soulless 4

[@kaugh]

I checked my bank account and indeed got my money back.

[@Tailsbot98761]

Sm64:LET ME DIEEEE Speedrunners: no lol

[@LucidMakesVideos]

WOAH? This video was edited by OKNEM? THE OKNEM?? Famous DE BLOB WORLD RECORD HOLDER? FROM AUSTRALIA?

[@synx6988]

why not mention the downwarp for DDD chests. Havent seen anyone except the new guys do that. It is clearly faster

[@bluewuppo]

didnt he make a seperate video dedicated to it?

[@RayAkuma]

Assless. I love Speedrun naming sometimes xD

[@MetaKnight68]

"Imagine the nerves" lol ok Acai

[@joebert7255]

Carpetless chatters will never shut up now

[@avalean]

Great video as always, but can I recommend a pop filter for next time? Cheers!

[@frequensea9434]

Now my question is… what if you just flat out did carpetless as the LAST star. How much time you saving

[@cmundhe]

0:50

[@cloud1641]

Ease up on the blurred scenes. My eyes kept dying lol

[@sparrowhawk3486]

Never gonna take back that 120 record with that attitude😜