Lutron’s NEW 2022 Smart Dimmers Fix ALMOST Everything!

[@MikeSmartCastle]

Looks nice, LOVE the slider, nice features, and the tactile touch doesn't bother me. But the price, I just can't see paying double, sometimes triple the price. Just bought some Zooz dimmers for $23. Granted, these are better, but 3 times the price better, nope.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

All right who all is going to be a Diva here? 🙋🏻‍♂ You can get these at Home Depot starting today if you’re interested: homedepot.sjv.io/a1gx1Y

[@topperdude2007]

About time! I have been quite critical of their old Caseta dimmer switches here and elsewhere as being too cheap and not at all well designed. Also wondered what was holding them back from integrating the smart technology into the Diva design that has been around forever to begin with - maybe they wanted to have a "disruptive design" but I feel if it ain't broken, don't fix it.. If they had introduced the Smart switch in the Diva form factor sooner, I would have invested in those and NOT have as many Kasa light switches in the house. And even now, I would hesitate switching over since the value of the Kasa switches is much better than the Lutron. Will be interesting to see how well these new switches are adopted with so much competition already in the smart switches space. BTW, are these (or going to be) Matter compatible?

[@katherinesalas2878]

It’s not online ????

[@269Ski]

What's the model number for the dimer and on/off switch or link to Home Depot?

[@cfletch85]

I just bought a GE Cync that's a no-neutral wire as well. About 60% of the price.

[@saultrecktom]

@@marcesw35 any link?

[@eddiejimenez3283]

I'm in the process of swapping out my dumb switches for these. So far have two installed and they are amazing. I think they're worth the money with the value you add to your home.

[@KyleSchiebel]

This looks like a nice update! And I'm with you on the "where was this a year or two ago" comment since I have like 20 of the original switches installed. I still have a few rooms I have not made "smart" yet, so I may try a couple of these switches and swap them with some of my more frequently used switches. At $70 each, I won't be buying them in bulk, that's for sure! As for the three way compatibility and not needing a Pico, I actually liked the Pico solution because it was much cheaper than buying two switches.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Also you can also use the Pico as a three way switch with these new ones too. Sorry if I wasn’t clear about that in the video. But I might be doing the same thing as you.

[@GoFastGator]

Not needing a Pico (still have that option but Pico remotes use Maestro aesthetics, not Diva) drastically reduces the device count. Also, the companion dimmer/switch is roughly the same $20 that a Pico remote is so cost wise, it’s a wash, worst case.

[@handcoding]

With all of these awesome improvements, I think that the only thing that I’m left wishing for is to have Lutron-or any of the other major smart-home brands-offer a smart dimmer switch with a built-in motion sensor? Basically, if some brand were to make something similar to the Lutron Maestro Occupancy/Vacancy Dimmer Switch-but with built-in ZigBee or Z-Wave support-I think that could be just about perfect.

[@saultrecktom]

Lutron has an add-on motion sensor for there caseta line.

[@alanmoore2197]

You can pair a Lutron Maestro Occupancy/Vacancy Dimmer Switch with a Lutron Caseta switch in a 2 way configuration to get part of this functionality (not particularly cost effective agreed). The Occupancy sensor status can be seen from the Lutron App and the state can be changed but you don't have app control of the sensor parameters or the dimming level and you can't within the Lutron ecosystem trigger events from it (from other integrations you may be able to).

[@paulnsharon5641]

Tp- link Kasa makes a single pole motion dimmer switch

[@handcoding]

@@paulnsharon5641 Ah-thanks for the tip! As it would happen, I don’t believe that there’s full Home Assistant support for those, but other than that, those look pretty promising.

[@TheMaximumguppy]

Not sure if it helps, but I think Leviton makes a Wi-Fi Decora dimmer with motion sensor

[@Fitzgerald52]

I had converted almost every switch in the house except the bathrooms due to the prior dimmer buttons. I'll likely be getting some now with the physical slider. Thanks for the great review!

[@nkuete]

I have no experience with either of them, except at work where I've clicked one or two of them and agree they're squishy. but fixing the dimming setting issue is absolutely worth it to me, even if the new ones are squishier than the old

[@B.Miranda94]

Currently slowly upgrading all our switches to Caseta switches. So far, the switches that are currently smart switches have been awesome and work flawlessly with Alexa and Homekit for me. Definitely worth it for me.

[@narc407]

At this point I’m more inclined to go with Inovelli Blue Series Zigbee switches. Seems to have all of these features for the most part with the added benefit of zigbee and having a smart bulb mode.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I'm planning to try that out soon when it's available!

[@gerryf7015]

@@SmartHomeSolver please do a review and compare. The Inovelli has a smart bulb mode to work with smart bulbs. Can also bind to zigbee smart bulbs elimination that Huu

[@narc407]

@@SmartHomeSolver looking forward to your thoughts on it!

[@kofther1344]

Preordered an Inovelli white dimming switch. It’s Matter over Thread.

[@JhonPereda]

The price is outrageous. As much as I'd like to get it, the price makes it an unreasonable purchase for my budget, specially when compared to competing products.

[@n2vxc]

Your not wrong...there beyond crazy money now..and this isn't new technology..I mean it has nice features but how often do we really change the brightness level. Usually set it and forget it...sorry lutron

[@letsgoOs1002]

I just use non smart dimmers now. So much better than smart for most situations.

[@ToddLagerberg]

Absolutely agree. The price is outrageous.

[@USNEM]

this crap is a straight rip off lmao.

[@antonioterrell354]

@@USNEM ; While I wouldn't call it "crap", if its as good as the current Lutron Caseta line which I consider among the best. Installed many of them here and they've never given me any problems. But I certainly do agree that price is ridiculous.....

[@gwmattos]

I'm installing a replacement 3-way and for the outside front door and the entry on the inside of the front door I do not need a dimmer switch and I'm not going to pay $70 to put a dimmer switch either outside the front door or inside the front door it's either off or on. Your presentation was very professional and to the point.

[@b16crxt]

I LOVE the leaving the room feature. If this was $50, I'd consider it. $70 is too much. My traditional dimmer switch with a Shelly 1 behind it is just fine.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I love that feature too! But yeah the price is definitely steep.

[@curtisbme]

No way it stays at this level as that is crazy price vs the many, many competing options. Imagine it will be $50 or less very soon.

[@damonwynne2098]

Chris - is there a wiring diagram you could share? Had an electrician try to wire traditional dimmer with sonoff mini2 and couldn't get it to work.

[@b16crxt]

@@damonwynne2098 The Hookup has done a couple of good videos on this. It doesn’t control the dimming functions though. Just the power. www.thesmarthomehookup.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Shelly1.jpg www.thesmarthomehookup.com/beginners-guide-to-shelly-relays-choose-the-right-relay-for-the-job/

[@GoFastGator]

@@curtisbme I doubt anything is changing in the near future. Caseta has always sold on reliability and connectivity. The VAST majority of competitive devices are WiFi and that just isn’t a good solution for dozens of low-bandwidth devices. We are just beginning to see Thread switches and dimmers trickle out and they do not offer much in capability or companion devices compared to Lutron.

[@LifeWithMatthew]

I love the design and hope more smart switch designers go this route, but $70 is ludicrous.

[@JasonBrown527]

LOL, $70 is waaaay less than anything from Lutron's RadioRa 3 line, or their QSX line. It is also less than anything from Vantage or Control4 or Crestron by at least half. Sure there are some off-brand products that are cheaper, but they don't work as well. These things are a bargain at $70.

[@LifeWithMatthew]

@@JasonBrown527 I have to disagree, there are a lot of very good smart switches out there if all you are grading it by is functionality of controlling lights. When comparing good switches to good switches what benefit is Lutron offering? Brand name and cosmetics? That's not worth $70 to me.

[@JasonBrown527]

@@LifeWithMatthew Those cheap $20-30 dimmers typically use wi-fi to communicate. Not a big deal when you only have a few. But Caseta, which is Lutron's smallest system, supports up to 75 devices. Wi-Fi based switches would significantly slow down most networks if you had even 20 or 30 devices. ClearConnect operates at 434 MHz which does not interfere with Wi-Fi or Bluetooth or Zigbee, which are all sharing the same RF space. And Lutron has been making dimmers longer than anyone. They actually patented it in 1959. They have tried and tested more light bulbs for compatibility than any other manufacturer. Chances are that if you buy a dimmable bulb that lists any known compatibility the list of verified dimmers will be 70% Lutron devices. So if you want to buy something and know that it will actually work, but a Lutron. If you want to save a few bucks and roll the dice, have at it. Either way, $70 for this dimmer is NOT "ludicrous".

[@GoFastGator]

@@JasonBrown527 happen to know what an RA3 Sunnata dimmer goes for? I’m starting to think Lutron is intentionally withholding the Sunnata devices from the DIY market but then again, it’s available as a “dumb” switch/dimmer for $40. Considering the $10 price difference between Sunatta and Diva dumb devices, and the $10 hike for Diva aesthetics in a Caseta device, I don’t understand why we couldn’t have Sunatta devices on the Caseta platform.

[@LifeWithMatthew]

@@JasonBrown527 Hey, I'm glad you found a brand that you love and trust, but you're not going to convince me that my own smart home set up, with quite a few devices, that is stable and very responsive is in fact broken and has huge delays. The only benefit to the Lutron I see over an equivalent device, of which there are quite a few, is the brand name and slightly superior cosmetic design. And since I can easily have equivalent devices for 1/3 the cost ludicrous is the only adjective I feel adequately describes that price point. But you do you, man.

[@Zoooks]

Man, I wish I had found your channel when we moved into our house in the same neighborhood! I'm catching up on your videos and found something I need to get in addition to so many things that we have in common.

[@paulclement1025]

I'm in the same boat - bought almost all of my Lutron dimmer switches last year for my new house, although I haven't installed them all yet. Most of my switches are on/off but if I need any more dimmers, I will definitely use these instead. I'm willing to pay for Lutron. The TP-Link Kasa dimmer switches I have in my condo don't click either - can't say it ever bothered me. Hopefully it won't bother the next owner. 🙂

[@hodgesmt]

This is perfect timing. We just built a new home and I think I will go with these...

[@GoFastGator]

I really expected any design updates for Caseta to use the Sunnata design. At $70 per device, I'm disappointed they do not as it solves the design conflict of having remote software controls AND a physical slider for the light level. I am glad they are offering an alternative to the Maestro design however and would still consider going the Diva route if I'm not able to justify going all-in on RA3.

[@GetMeOutside]

I agree fully. I have Sunnata and Caseta switches and really wish I could make them all smart Sunnatas. The form factor is incredible.

[@DrawTheLine35]

Yes! Give me smart Sunnatas!

[@GoFastGator]

@@DrawTheLine35 they exist, but only in the RA3 and HomeWorks product lines.

[@DrawTheLine35]

@@GoFastGator Good to know!

[@progression_decibel]

@@GoFastGator quick question - in a 3-way switch config, can you have a Caseta Wireless Diva Dimmer on one wall and a dumb Sunnata dimmer on another wall and still control that light remotely via Caseta? I'm assuming yes?

[@djRoyalTee]

We've had the regular version for 15 years...still works and has a remote control. FYI, there's an auto off time feature, if you hold the down button it will turn off the lights after you release it. The longer you hold it (Indicated via the led) the more time until it turns off..

[@victorpascual3375]

Hi there, could you confirm if I need to buy/install the lutron hub for that feature or with the switch dimmer is enough?

[@stephenmg12]

My only complaint with the old ones has been the price and these are about $20 more. My current ones are fine. I only have 4 but plan to expand them to the rest of the house soon. I think I'll stick with the cheaper ones.

[@reallyanti]

I wish they had a pico remote that matched this button style. I have a remote on the wall right next to my kitchen light switch since the other switch is so far away, and it's going to look dumb having the two switches be mismatched. The current caseta switch is hard to hit as you walk out of the room, so it would be nice to upgrade to the Diva.

[@djofulll]

I presume they will be coming out with those soon. I'm in the same boat.

[@STXVIEC]

I installed all Lutron Maestro Switches back in 2016 and they worked perfectly with 0 issues. My house does also have a lighting panel which controlls certain main areas with keypads, but I think I will be replacing all the Maestro dimmers with the new Sunnata dimmers as they do look much nicer.

[@slowboy89]

These are definitely an upgrade from the old casseta dimmers. Now I just have to figure out if it is worth $70 per switch to upgrade, when I barely touch the switches as is...

[@alanmoore2197]

I'm sure it won't be $70 for ever - caseta came down significantly in price if you shop for bargains on eBay - it will just take time for them to deploy widely enough for that.

[@WeaponsArtist]

The answer is no 😂. That adds up so much....

[@russojar]

I converted all my original Casetas to these. The sleek look is much nicer and easier for house guests. I got tired of too many people visiting and not being able to figure out how to turn the light on.

[@luke9822]

What I was waiting for was an updated dimmer switch that was the same as their pico format. I never understood why the pico was more advanced and easier to use than the main switch. This new format does make sense for people who want limited Caseta control but a consistent look throughout their home.

[@the4ner]

The Caseta ELV+ dimmer (PD-5NE) has the same button layout as the Pico and can handle a 250W LED load

[@zoe7657]

@@the4ner and have you seen the price is double! ? Should be included.

[@kenbrown2808]

Maestro pairs with a wired companion switch, a standard snap switch or a pico switch. but of course, if it is more important to you to play with the switches from your smartphone, Maestro doesn't do as much with the smartbridge system.

[@xarm2]

Reed. So just wanted to let you know. You can set a scene via lutron app and you can set the lighting % to let say 1% ( so I have as ‘Good morning’ ) when you press the arrow up on your caseta it will activate the scene. And if you press regular ON it will go to the maximum brightness. I hope this helps.

[@EdgeOfFuzz]

Makes sense that I would convert 90% of my switches to Caseta only for this to come out a year later

[@KYHB-q2i]

Yep Raj … I’m in the same situation. Ugh

[@bobhenry8807]

I just spent under a grand for all new Caserta. 😳

[@luke9822]

@@johndoe6032 this decora form factor for lighting switches has been around for a _very_ long time - well before smart switches were a thing - so I think you're safe with this look.

[@anthonywall1228]

Raji, just because they made a new version doesn’t mean you have to convert to it.

[@EdgeOfFuzz]

@@anthonywall1228 I understand that. I’m just saying I would’ve like to have had this version to begin with, but such is life.

[@zul448]

My electrician installed the old Caseta switches with some kind of remote to extend my basement lighting to three total switches instead of just one, and my biggest complaint is how crappy it is to find the on/off buttons. This new style looks like a perfect replacement... but $70!?? Lutron must be out of their minds. I'll wait until the price comes down.

[@kumarsalib722]

This is definitely closer to what I want for my home lighting solution. That price is still absurd.

[@pdmark311]

time of day dimming is still the thing I need. so I can set the bathroom light to 10% from 11pm-5am

[@rjbrowning85]

Game changer! I have been dying for a smart switch with a physical dimmer... Now if it was only ZigBee or Z-Wave.

[@gerryf7015]

Inovelli Blue 2-1

[@aurvaroy6670]

This and the new smart Claro switches are awesome. I wish Lutron made the original Caseta switches exactly like these or at least like the Maestros. Hopefully the prices will go down so that I'm able to replace my current Casetas with these.

[@JBK63]

I would have liked to see the switch hooked up in a standard three-way configuration, using a mechanical switch

[@jonathanzappala]

If it does that, which it sounds like, that’s what I have been waiting for. The only smart switch I purchase wouldn’t so it sits in a box.

[@davidschlemmer4115]

Cheaper to go the eBay route. Love the new design. I had no idea about the delayed off feature until you showed us. That’s so cool

[@heybravo23]

You can use Home Assistant to control a Lutron Pico remote to do whatever you want. I have a pico that turns on and off my Govee exterior lights, another pico for turning on and off lamps and I use HA to connect them to Lutron scenes as well. I also have a Pico that turns on and off my fireplace with bond. The Picos are really handy if you use HA.

[@thegreyspectre9838]

$70 per switch is nuts…I would love to integrate them, but I’m not spending over $500 to layout my house with them.

[@andrewk9267]

Watching this video after buying a bunch of now "old" Lutron switches is very frustrating lol. These look amazing

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I feel your pain!

[@dpoff13f45]

I could have sworn the light Lurton switches I had in my old house had the delayed shutoff. As you held down the off button the green lights would start to light up and the longer you held it would dictate how long it took them shut off.

[@macgyver03ga]

Definitely getting some of these. I wasn’t a huge fan of the caseta look, and radioRA is significantly more expensive. For Those complaining about prices, their price increase is pretty consistent with the inflation we have been seeing in the building materials market. I’m a full time house flipper and I just finished building my personal home a couple months ago. We saw a 20-30% increase on average of construction costs YoY. Heck, electrical wiring basically doubled in cost from 2021 to 2022. I put Maestro dimmers everywhere in our new build and I love them. I was planning on doing caseta for select switches in the house but ran into some supply chain shortages and couldn’t get enough so I opted for maestro everywhere because I needed to finish our house so we could move in. I’m gonna use these caseta divas for all of our exterior lights to begin with.

[@rick_in_MN]

I like my Feit Electric 3 way smart dimmers (neutral required). 2 pack at my Costco was $30. Added to Google Home with ease.

[@twosawyers]

I had the Maestro for years I just wish they would go ahead and make the Maestro light switches wireless.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

That's what I want too.

[@jessmac1893]

Sounds like a great switch. You had me until the price. Yowza. I finished upgrading everything to the Leviton smart switches, and the whole time I was thinking a slider would be great. Now Lurton comes out with one.

[@getwiredms]

We installed a ton of Radio RA systems back in the day. The three way switches and dimmers all had the blue wire. Glad to see them incorporate them into the new stuff. Personally if you are building a new house and can afford it go for the Lutron Homeworks if you can find a reputable installation company. Its expensive, but seamless and removes the clutter.

[@imjackbaker]

The best you can get but if people complain about $70 then $300 per load is sticker shock. Worth it for those who can afford it.

[@boyer193]

Worth it until it’s “obsolete” or discontinued like many of there other systems and devices

[@keningilbert]

Awesome improvements. Sucks they are ignoring coming out with a fan & light combo smart switch.

[@devinhedge]

This is a step in the right direction. I think Zooz is still a better switch because they can operating in different modes: direct control of traditional lights, or control of smart lights via a hub while maintaining power to the smart lights in the circuit. Also Zooz seems to be able to do 3-way and 4-way circuits using the existing "traveler" switches as trigger devices... which is a quite brilliant design.

[@davidc-l9174]

I had high hopes for Zooz, but I just returned a bunch of them and opted for a Caséta system instead. The Zooz switches were a PITA to connect to my smart home, and I gave up after the first few that all gave me trouble. My Caséta switches, on the other hand, all connected immediately to their hub.

[@alanmoore2197]

Lutron's Caseta (and I assume new Caseta/Diva) switches can do this too. They show instructions for 2-way wiring set-ups with traditional 2 way switches - but don't advertise 3+ way because the Caseta switch cannot be in the middle - however it can be placed at either end (hot feed or load end) and the instructions apply. Realistically it doesn't matter where it is.

[@devinhedge]

@@alanmoore2197 I can’t thank you enough for sharing this. I’ve always liked their build quality and was frustrated that it felt like I was being locked into their ecosystem. Thank you!

[@devinhedge]

@@davidc-l9174 my experience was different. I have heard others state the same, so I’m wondering what I did that others didn’t, or maybe what I didn’t do that other did. Tough to know. Are you using the Lutron hub or something else?

[@AdamB5000]

The improvements are great. In my next house I had planned to use Inovelli, but this is now a consideration. But $70? I don't see myself dropping $70 per switch. That's a tough pill to swallow. I'll get my rear end off the couch to flip lights on and off. It'll keep me young and I'll pocket the hundreds or a thousand dollars. That or roll with Kasa.

[@The-Friendly-Grizzly]

My next house I want to reduce the number of hubs and other devices. I use the Hubitat C-8 as my main system, but having another hub for Hue, and another for Lutron seems overkill and it is leading to conflicts. I likely will narrow it all down to Zigbee devices and call it a day. That, and unless they come out with rocker style Picos as opposed to what they have now, I am done. I love Lutron's virtually bullet-proof designs but from the standpoint of consistency I will go elsewhere.

[@fancyhandlegoeshere]

I might have to try these, though I'm not a big fan of the price. I currently have no smart switches and have been doing everything w/ smart bulbs. Guess time will tell.

[@Bill-ions]

$70 is a bit much but I would pay it knowing it is compatible with Apple, Amazon, and Google. I bought a few dimmer switches from C by Ge, which promised Apple HomeKit compatibility. It never happened and I’m still waiting years later..

[@ShyamRonline]

Already have tons of lutron switches and now this. oh man !

[@jimalix6270]

I’m glad I waited a beat to buy the Caseta switches! These seem so much better!

[@Dr.Schlitz]

I just installed one of these and will be installing several others. This switch is so much better than the old switch, that complaining about “squishiness” is like complaining that your portion of caviar is just a bit too small. Give me a break!

[@steven.h0629]

Hmmm.. I wonder if this would tie into my existing old school triple switch hallways.. I have all the same features but no smart.

[@chadmason8526]

I did not buy Lutron no neutral dimmer switch because at the time it was not able to remember the last setting. I bought Leviton because it worked correctly and also has matching no neutral on/off option, not just dimmer. The brands look similar but the Leviton is also more affordable. If Lutron had this out earlier I would have bought it then realized they did not have a simple smart on/off no neutral offering to match it. I had Lutron non smart switches in my house and switched to Leviton smart devices for this reason. I loved my old Lutron dumb switches but I am also happy with my new Leviton's.

[@matthew.datcher]

I had been a fan of the Lutron Maestro before switching to Caseta for home integration. I always hated that I lost features during that move. But, it looks like the Diva brings back the features I wanted (remembers previous fade settings, double-tap to full, and long-tap to delay) plus a feature I didn't know I wanted (physical fade slider and paddle switch). I always thought that it should have been possible to upgrade the Caseta with the Maestro features with a firmware upgrade (but, what do I know about the hardware limitations they built into the dimmer). Considering the Caseta was already about $60, the price of the Diva is no problem for me.

[@LeonC75]

I am changing from all the Kasa and zooz ones to Lutron, the fact that it is easily compatible with smart things and home kit

[@charlesnicholson3189]

I like the looks of this switch allot better then the older one. I do wish they would release a Sunnata Touch Dimmer in the Caseta line.

[@stevenmoomey2115]

If you have the LED’s with Zero to 10 Vdc Dimming, there is a “Blink’n’Dim” Switch that wires in at the Light Fixture. No 10 Vdc wire in the walls. You will have three light levels, by turning the wall switch on and off. Bit pricey at around $70, though.

[@mattskillman]

I'm not a fan of the slider. It's quick, but with kids and guests, I don't want them messing with that. I'm still very happy with my Inovelli switches, clean look without the slider. Press and hold up or down to select your brightness, and its set.

[@benhaze1010]

In Canada pricing is around $85 if you can find any any. That is crazy expensive; too bad.

[@bboi]

Looks like there’s no matching accessory dimmer for 3-way configurations, so you’d have to use a Pico. Uniform switches with status lightbars is my favorite part of my RadioRa3 Sunnata switches.

[@curtisbme]

Yeah, seems like they are going to keep Sunnata locked to RadioRa3 to appease their customer installers. Bad for everyone but the few of you willing to deal with creating and maintaining RadioRa3.

[@jeffreymayes907]

I'm at my 75 device limit, so having 3-way switching is fantastic. I might restore one or two of my 3-way circuits back to 'normal' by removing the Pico remotes so I can free up some of my device count for circuits that are not on Lutron yet.

[@SoCalVipers]

This makes me appreciate how great Instreon was. I've had all my lights on Insteon switches for over 15 years. Their functionality is amazing, but the reliability was not so good, but they always had good sales so I could stock up for cheap. Insteon also had the most complete product line - switches, dimmers, leak sensors, door sensors, motion sensors, relays, remotes, and a hand full of other helpful devices. I'm able to have my water main automatically turn off if a leak is detected or Alexa turn on or off my water main when I know I'll leaving the house for a long time. It's easy to program timers, my IR remote control can also control insteon devices. I need to decide if I want to keep my Insteon going in the hope that they come back, or if I should switch to Lutron. Replacing all that stuff is a daunting task!

[@peterh222]

Totally agree. The biggest problem with Insteon was the garbage software. Otherwise it was a great system.

[@SoCalVipers]

@@peterh222 I use the ISY, and it's hard to use, but does everything. I do wish they had a good app though.

[@junkins]

Looks great but you should look into the new Inovelli Blue series. They are a bit cheaper and have a whole lot more features.

[@SmartHomeSolver]

Yes I'll be looking into those as well! I really like Inovelli too!

[@clellbritt3434]

gonna have to wait for those to go on sale.

[@TriCkYiCe]

Liked the video but would have left without clicking the like button...........the dad joke about the name of the switch being Diva got me to come back. Very funny and cute bit. :-)

[@5280Woodworking]

Fantastic addition to the Caseta line-up. I love my RA2 Select + Caseta integrated home. I might be the minority but the fact that it can work with existing or complementary 3-way switches, operates on an FCC licensed band for reliable communication that just plain works, $70 seems like a very reasonable price. You get what you pay for IMHO. Go ahead and roll the dice on other switches that will work "most" of the time.

[@nicholasthon973]

If you only want one, $70 is acceptable. It’s way to much for any average homeowner to entertain outfitting a house. They’re pricing themselves out of the larger market.

[@parrottm76262]

Lutron is nuts! That price is outrageous. No sale here.

[@samsquires2877]

This is the best smart dimmer on the market by far.

[@nateb_inovelli]

I'm a bit biased but I would say it's not the best smart switch you can buy and $70 seems a bit pricy. I think I'd prefer something that was $50, could be used as either a dimmer or on/off, has an RGBW light strip with notifications, and also gives you scene control with tap commands. 😉😉

[@akilfahd]

🤣😂

[@BallsworthBallsbury]

.... Inovelli also has the ability to integrate seamlessly with smart BULBS. For those who don't know, Inovelli offers a setting on their smart switches where the power never gets cut, and the switch sends software commands to control the bulbs or (literally anything else in the smart home, for that matter). It's the best of both worlds: smart switch, smart bulb. No limitations. I have Inovelli's control Phillips Hue in my house and it's... chefs kiss. Lutron is great even you just want basic control of brightness, but I'm a huge fan of Inovelli if you want anything more than that (e.g. color and scene control). You guys don't get enough love in the smart home space, IMO

[@akilfahd]

Inovelli blue seems ideal but it’s too late for me I went all in on Leviton 2nd gen because of support for both Alexa and HomeKit and I don’t think that Inovelli supports HomeKit

[@GoFastGator]

HomeKit or Matter support in the near future?

[@nateb_inovelli]

@@GoFastGator Blue Series can be upgraded from Zigbee to Matter. We're also exploring a Thread switch for HomeKit but are still in the very early stages of development.

[@tomlyger]

I've been slowing upgrading my switches... but i don't think i'm going to change not worth the added expense... And I love on my 3ways that the pico remotes can do so much more with the smarthome and still be something my family can understand

[@harrywensel8456]

Very nice video. I am going to try one of these in my rental and see how it holds up. In the past renters would give a good hard fist to the paddle dimmers I had. Eventually they would crack or stop working. Very frustrating. But why not update if they can withstand the punishment.

[@GTechno13]

Do they allow you to have a logarithmic dimming curve for LED lights? Can you change the ramp rates? These are both HUGE issues for me. With my LED lights, they reach 90% apparent brightness at probably 25% in the dimming range. Only solution is to set a lower maximum which seems a bad solution. They also ramp down too slow because of this so you have to stare at the lights for a second to know if you actually hit the off button since the layout and squishiness are awful.

[@devocracy1089]

This may be a stupid question but is your dimmer currently rated for LED's or is it one made for Incandescents? I only ask because the issue you're describing I've seen in the past be a result of LED's not on a universal-style dimmer so it doesn't ramp appropriately. If yours is already universal I hope you find one that fixes your issue!

[@VLS-Why]

I used to work at Lutron engineering. Some of their biggest markets are mansions and yachts... The $70 price tag doesn't surprise me

[@stevenw3393]

Thanks for the video. Does this work with HomeKit or is a hub still required?

[@flametiger74]

Ahh!!! I just finished putting the old Caseta switches all over my house!

[@SmartHomeSolver]

I feel the pain!

[@EsotericArctos]

I don't think they are worth the price for my situation. The squishy feel isn't the issue though. More just the price to functionality, even though they are reliable. I do really like the actual physical dimmer control and that it will go to that set level when the light switch is turned on, while still retaining the ability to remotely control brightness from the app or another switch. The physical control lets you see where the level is set to and makes it more intuitive for guests (or the wife) to use.

[@MicahFunk]

I'm using the Meross switches. I've been really impressed with their products 👍

[@DctrGizmo]

I wish they had something like with a fan speed combo. Having trouble finding one.

[@porkchopsandwiches8363]

I am one who prefers the current caseta style and the aesthetic with the picos vs the older style paddle switches

[@jayf6741]

Finally, Lutron listened! Does it have the various dimming timing of the maestro?

[@usa-earth]

Reed, Have you looked at Feit Electric WIFI dimmer switches? I put a whole bunch into our new home build and so far they are working really well. They are cheap too! Oh and BTW, every woman is a Diva, but don't tell Allie I said that....

[@holmesphillip]

$70 is just too expensive for a single dimmer switch. I have quite a few Kasa dimmer switches that work flawlessly. Yes, they're wifi but I spent a lot of time making sure I have a solid mesh wifi network. Is there a longer delay in automations? Yes, but when I can get them for under $15 each, I'll accept the extra 50-100ms. In Homekit via HomeAssistant.

[@BallsworthBallsbury]

Extra 50-100ms of latency.... compared to what? Are you saying WiFi is 50-100ms higher latency than other wireless protocols like zigbee, zwave, etc... If so, you're wrong.

[@holmesphillip]

@@BallsworthBallsbury not saying that at all. I’m saying with a scene that contains Lutron and Kasa switches, the Lutron switches turn on faster but not by much(under a quarter of a second). I was taking about perceived delay, not communication protocol latency.

[@filefolder3]

My perfect smart switch would a something that looks exactly like a normal light switch, but it has a motor so when you turn it on or off remotely, it physically moves the switch. Same for the perfect dimmer switch. I have found that when elderly people use our smart switches they get so confused because it doesn’t flip positions like a regular switch.

[@savagelettuceofficial]

I always laugh at the 'suishy' button comments when it comes to these smart switched. Since I've installed mine a year ago, I use the voice command over 95% of the time when turning these lights on and off or dimming to whatever percentage I want. I don't even notice the lack of loud 'click' when I do press the switch the other 5% of the time, so to me, it really is a non-ssue. Can't wait to try these out!

[@CannabisTechLife]

The tricky thing I found with Lutron is that I invested into them specifically because they claim to not need a neutral switch. However, it's only a FEW of their models that don't. I found this out when emailed customer service. If the model has an N in the name, it needs a neutral apparently. After learning this, I realized it's rare to find a model of their switches that isn't neutral based. If you are lucky enough to find one, it's usually sold out, or double the price of a neutral switch. Really unfortunate. I hope this new model helps with the non neutral switch inventory.

[@cmonteiro128]

What are you talking about? Their most commonly sold dimmer, which is literally always in stock everywhere, does not need a neutral.

[@hamdude2109]

Hmm, impulse decisions associated with cannabis. Who knew? LOL

[@CannabisTechLife]

@@cmonteiro128 Ah my bad, I forgot to clarify this was for the simple on off switch, no the dimmer. The dimmer gave issues with my lights when at lowest power. The lights would flicker even though they are dimmable lights

[@JasperJanssen]

@@CannabisTechLife not needing a neutral makes the circuitry significantly more complex, so yes, they’re gonna be the more expensive variant.

[@CannabisTechLife]

@@JasperJanssen but double?

[@Wilsondmwjr]

Do you know of a “smart” MLV dimmer ? Looking for one for my under-cabinet lights in new kitchen. Thanks. Love your content

[@watuzi]

Thanks for the review man, but no way in hell I'm paying $70 for only one smart switch!

[@ironqqq]

Lutron Caseta switches still can't control other lutron devices like the Smart Plug and Outdoor Plug, so you're still have mount an extra Pico remote. So I can't walk into a room, hit a single hardwired switch and turn on overhead lights with a Caseta dimmer and also turn on bedside lamps with a Smart Switch. Still have to use that extra wall mounted Pico. Same thing in any room where you want multiple light sources turned on without having to wall mount an extra Pico.

[@msbgone]

Does the old remote work the new Diva one??? Ahhahaahhaha, the ending!! You need to make a new comedy channel with the fam, or just post it on here! :) Thanks for the review!

[@TazExprez]

I live in an old home and the lack of a neutral wire drove me to Lutron years ago.

[@andrewseltzer1145]

Imo, they should have made the sunnata the smart switch instead of the diva. Looks and works so much nicer.

[@Imbatmn57]

I personally hate dimmer switches of any kind because i had a nightmare where my light was stuck at really dim but not completely off, but these switches look cool, i also like it when light switches don't need an app to turn on/off the light.

[@BallsworthBallsbury]

"Needing" an app to turn the lights off is a completely fabricated "problem" if you're talking about Caseta, and just about any other modern smart lighting solution. You CAN use an app to control the lights. But you don't HAVE to use the app.

[@TheRubernck21]

So, you live in Arizona, right? Have you had any power issues, power outages/brownouts, etc? Im planning on moving to the Chandler area in a couple of years, so curious how these switches would be affected. Also, these Lutrons, do they require a web service like Hue bulbs?

[@acohen4]

For me it’s mostly about the look. I have ELVs in most of my locations, because that’s how PICO remotes look. Having to another casetta look unfortunately would not work for me. I really wish lutron would extend devices to 100 fro 75, as I have two hubs as a work around right now.

[@WeaponsArtist]

Love the videos! Relatively new here. A home assistant beginners guide, adding ZigBee devices, etc would be super helpful. Point me to one of your videos if already created please. Saw the NFC video now I'm hooked on figuring it out

[@ozmaile7938]

2 points: The first is that the physical 3way is important as some local codes DONT ALLOW (pico) non wired remotes (won't pass inspection/ 3 pole most be hard wired) The second is that they need to come out with ELV and MLV ASAP. hate having to spec different styles of dimmers in complex lighting situations

[@JLLG2]

I did not understand the three-way not working reference on the previous models. One could make the argument The Pico remote solution is more flexible because you could turn about any circuit into a three-way or multi-location dimming solution. This new solution requires two $70 switches and three-way wiring, apparently. Pico remotes are cheaper than $70 along with the blank plate and you don't even need a box in the wall for the remote to make it look like a light switch. They just need that little middle button on the primary casita dimmer switch. Just like the Pico remote, that's what I want 🙂

[@Pi5hvi]

Please take a look at FEEIT electric's dimmer switches. They're available at costco and when on discount, its $20 for 2. THEY ARE AMAZING!!! I put them throughout my house and they have all the essential features, including minimum light level adjustment for non dimmable LED lights. The cons: They are wifi only, need a neutral, the app sucks (although it works great within google home or with alexa), the dimmer switches only work as "lights" in the google home app. I have a fan that I attatched them to and every time I say "hey google, turn the lights on", the fan turns on too. Not sure how they work with alexa

[@Vlican]

the TP-Link dimmers remember the last brightness setting, has clicky switch, has LED to denote current brightness, has double tap delay on/off, is cheaper. they don't look as nice though...

[@islandsnow]

Yeah I’m mad like you. I just upgraded about 10 of my switches to Lutron and now they come out with diva which fixes a bunch of my complaints

[@edwardsmith7131]

What I want, and unfortunately it seems that I will have to make myself, is a 3-way (or even 4-way) dimmer switch that allows seamless dimming from all physical dimmer switches. Not requiring the use of an app. In other words: at one end of a room I can change the light level and at any other dimmer switch I can also change the light level without sudden changes. I've gotten stuck on the idea of hiding this interface behind an old fashioned looking rotary dimmer knob switch. Instead of directing controlling the power directly each dimmer sends "up" or "down" pulses to the dimmer controller which does the actual dimming. This would work well with most of the aftermarket 0-10V LED power supply "ballasts". The dimmer knob would not have a stop so it would spin freely. On / off would be achieved by pressing the knob. This type of rotary encoder switch with an additional linear "push knob" switch actuation is fairly common since iPods and this switch was easy to find on Amazon. If I had time: I would slap a few of these together with I'm guessing an arduino controller to translate between the switches and the ballast. It really doesn't need even that much cpu power but it would be easier to prototype. Note: the push button actuation could also be used in a long press mode to allow for temporary control of color temperature adjustment. I'm imagining a light fixture with warm white and cool white LEDs. Without an app you could: turn on the the light, dim it, then long press to change the color temperature. After a few seconds the dimmer defaults back from color to intensity. Alas, no one makes this yet.