Adrien WILL Get Akumatized Again (And Why That's A Good Thing)

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Smarty Pants

Smarty Pants

Күн бұрын

It’s pretty clear amongst the fanbase that Season 5 of Miraculous didn’t exactly favour the beloved Adrien Agreste. It quite frankly slaughtered his character and made him out to be a pathetic wimp with no agency. Now truth be told, this video could largely be a copium rant, inventing a storyline where we could actually get some kind of band-aid and justification for what happened at the finale. That’s it really. But just for a minute imagine this storyline. I think it’s pretty good and maybe, just maybe has a chance of happening. We’ve been surprised before! (Felix anyone?) So who knows?! Enjoy.

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@EvaOliver-hf1mn
@EvaOliver-hf1mn 6 күн бұрын
Please raise your hand if you're also afraid that if he gets akumatized he'll end up with an ugly costume like ephemeral 🤚🤚😭
@plushmakerfan8444
@plushmakerfan8444 6 күн бұрын
Lol
@Shinotheblackcat
@Shinotheblackcat 6 күн бұрын
✋️ 🖐 🙋 🙋‍♀️
@MarinetteWinters
@MarinetteWinters 6 күн бұрын
New fear unlocked
@awwallawal7095
@awwallawal7095 6 күн бұрын
🙋
@Glitchwings
@Glitchwings 6 күн бұрын
@peterjones819
@peterjones819 6 күн бұрын
Season 1 Adrien/Cat Noir is peak. Bring him back.
@cheyennecedeno6867
@cheyennecedeno6867 6 күн бұрын
Com-paw-letety agree, tho I'd add Season 2 mainly. Not because of introductions to His Kagami nor Marinette's Luka. The akumas of S2 were by far the very best and truly entertaining ones. The series going into S6 only hope is indeed being our Cattastic Kitty back from his former prime. 😻😻 Everyone have a blessed Thursday September 12, 2024 at 8:22AM. 🔥🌸🔥🌸
@Keith_Norman
@Keith_Norman 6 күн бұрын
I hope season 4 and season 5 cat noir never come back
@cheyennecedeno6867
@cheyennecedeno6867 6 күн бұрын
@@Keith_Norman Com-paw-letety. It was a train wreck, so horrible yet I couldn't look away. Everyone have a blessed Thursday September 12, 2024 at 10:18AM. 🌸🔥🌸🔥
@Keith_Norman
@Keith_Norman 6 күн бұрын
@@cheyennecedeno6867 which is most of miraculous
@cheyennecedeno6867
@cheyennecedeno6867 6 күн бұрын
@@Keith_Norman I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're asking. 😅
@dspace4514
@dspace4514 6 күн бұрын
And if he does get akumatized, i dont want him to apologize. Nothing about this situation is his fault and its all on Marinette.
@mrenergy5364
@mrenergy5364 6 күн бұрын
Not like when Marinette tried to kiss him thinking he was a wax model.
@Andovers848
@Andovers848 6 күн бұрын
Yeah, like Kagami in protection : "yes, you desakumatize me, but it doesn't solve my problem..."
@dangerbuffrocky
@dangerbuffrocky 6 күн бұрын
How is it all on Marinette when Nathalie and Felix are gatekeeping the exact same information as well. Not to mention, it's even worse since they've known Adrien since birth
@josratubangura
@josratubangura 6 күн бұрын
Why is it only Marinette’s fault when EVERYONE in his life is lying to him? Especially his family Felix and Nathalie who actually helped his terrorist dad?
@dangerbuffrocky
@dangerbuffrocky 6 күн бұрын
@@josratubangura because people have an irrational hatred for a fictional character.
@njivwathomassilavwe2056
@njivwathomassilavwe2056 6 күн бұрын
Without time shenanigans preferably
@sebastianaristizabal3871
@sebastianaristizabal3871 6 күн бұрын
He has every right in the Universe to be mad, to be angry, to go wreck everyones shit. ESPECIALLY WITH THE ONES THAT LIED INTO HIS FACE ABOUT GABRIEL
@LaBellesGrace
@LaBellesGrace 6 күн бұрын
Season 6 is definitely looking very interesting. So many possibilities, and yet this show has had so many chances. Adrien needs to *FEEL* it all and not let go. Third times a charm?
@whiteimposter9304
@whiteimposter9304 6 күн бұрын
Did you forget who the writer is ? He will take whatever the fandom wants and give them the exact opposite, he did the same thing since season 4, am surprised Adrien still has any screen time at all, this is a show about strong independent women, and men are just dumb and side characters, will see
@MohammedOmarFCB
@MohammedOmarFCB 6 күн бұрын
@@whiteimposter9304I really hope Astruc can shush you, but I myself agree with you. I think we will get more shit out of Adrian in season 6 than any other season and the fandom will probably burn the whole thing over Astruc's head.
@whiteimposter9304
@whiteimposter9304 6 күн бұрын
@@MohammedOmarFCB we said the same thing in season 4 and 5, for me it's when the show started to meet it's downfall, but am not sure what to expect from someone who portrait his EX personality on fictional characters 🤷🏻‍♀️
@LaBellesGrace
@LaBellesGrace 6 күн бұрын
@@whiteimposter9304 nope, I certainly have not forgotten who’s in charge of the show. I’m not getting my hopes up, but I’m intrigued to see where this goes either way…
@Rebecaelisie
@Rebecaelisie 6 күн бұрын
I doubt they will give this much thought. I'm guessing they'll just forget Gabriel completely and focus on new stories, which is a shame. I would love to see Adrien deal with everything that happened, especially since he wasn't part of the finale. He deserves more!
@d4red3v1l8
@d4red3v1l8 6 күн бұрын
I think getting Mari AND Adrien akumatised at the same time would make season 6 more interesting.
@SamuelaKelia
@SamuelaKelia 6 күн бұрын
Wouldn't it be impossible to capture the akuma then ?
@d4red3v1l8
@d4red3v1l8 6 күн бұрын
@@SamuelaKelia If they both give up their miraculouses like they did before it wouldn’t be.
@duusu2608
@duusu2608 6 күн бұрын
It could also work if Adrien keeps his miraculous and is akumatised as Cat Noir, then Mari blames hersef and gets akumatised without her miraculous (she throws it away before being fully akumatised or gives it to Alya or something)
@muichirotokito5624
@muichirotokito5624 6 күн бұрын
@@SamuelaKelia imagine bunnix getting past or future versions of themselves to fight
@levievil9220
@levievil9220 5 күн бұрын
@@muichirotokito5624that bunnix goes and grabs the future selfs of ladybug and cat noir and we get to see how they’ll handle their past selfs being akumatized
@_MyNameIsAJ_
@_MyNameIsAJ_ 6 күн бұрын
I'm just hoping the episode would actually be canon and not reversed at the end because the writers are scared of taking risks. Cat Blanc and Ephemeral were terrible episodes.
@archermania9314
@archermania9314 6 күн бұрын
Ok lemme say this, I WAS disappointed when Cat Blanc was revealed to be a time episode but it's not a bad episode at all. It has more detailing, seriousness and depth than any episode put together. Ephemeral on the other hand is extremely unwatchable to the point where I watched it only twice.
@redrawnation6072
@redrawnation6072 6 күн бұрын
As a person who likes the show, I am also on board to seeing Adrien learning the truth about his father resulting in an akumatisation because of all the lies. Like you said any normal person would feel angry, distraught, sad, frustrated and confused if they are lied to and kept in the dark. I just hope that Astruc understands that and doesn't come up with some dumb stupid reason why Adrien would not feel that way. "Oh because he's a senti-monster that means he isn't really a normal person..." I want to see a reaction to this realisation PLEASE Astruc!!! Bro. My ideal plot line for where this should go, is that Adrien gets to know the truth by someone telling him or him finding it out himself transforms into chat noir and Cataclysms that Gabriel Agreste Statue because we ALL know for sure that Gabriel does not deserve to be called a hero. Adrien renounces his Miraculous knowing that the one person he is close friends to him as lied to his face about his father (I'm talking about Ladybug) vowing to never work for a liar like Ladybug again and then he gets akumatised by Lila. No time travel shinanigans just the truth revealed please!
@KiaraGroves
@KiaraGroves 6 күн бұрын
that but instead chat blanc as an ACTUAL villain
@little.prince
@little.prince 6 күн бұрын
They’ve already said they won’t focus on Adrien in the same way as Marinette. It’s really disheartening
@fatherplatypus2316
@fatherplatypus2316 6 күн бұрын
Its tbh sad that every good things we talked about for the show is really just a huge stretch bcs we KNOW none of those will happen in a way that will be bare minimum satisfying
@everythinggirly916
@everythinggirly916 6 күн бұрын
I'm convinced that if Marinette ever gets akumatized, it's gonna be Alya who saves her, not Arien.
@analyticofexistance7847
@analyticofexistance7847 6 күн бұрын
I feel like Lyla will use Marinette's lie to Adrien as the catalyst to akumatise him. A perfect way to stir up their relationship even after he's deakumatised and have them split up at least temporarily. In the mean time, he consults Marinette (as herself) and lies that Cat Noir told him the truth, which then causes Marinette (as Ladybug) to get frustrated at Cat Noir for exposing her lie, creating an even bigger divide between them. Then when Marinette (as ladybug) is most vunerable, he can save her. They later work out their differences and team up to take down Lyla. It's a poorly executed setup that I think will pay off in the season they beat Lyla.
@mariamandthebirds9236
@mariamandthebirds9236 6 күн бұрын
Amazing concept
@muichirotokito5624
@muichirotokito5624 6 күн бұрын
I doubt Lila would know anything, apart from Gabriel being hawkmoth.
@mallieposkas3581
@mallieposkas3581 6 күн бұрын
I want his akuma persona/power to be to turn people into porcelain dolls. Very “sit still look pretty,” because that’s what everyone has done to him and how they see him. It’s also a smart power in that porcelain dolls can have accessories, like jewelry, and so it’s an akuma that can actually claim the miraculouses if he gets you, while you’re helpless as an EXTREMELY breakable, non-moving display piece. You don’t just vanish or go into a picture. Through in his acting ability and he could totally double cross Lila and steal Marinette’s villain from her the way she soloed Gabe while he was sidelined in London. There’s your Chad moment. And you said in another video that the akumas dress themselves, Adrian could go with the most low key transformation if they established that he Already Sees Himself As A DOLL! He keeps the same look, just with weird joints, and maybe extra shiny skin. People wouldn’t even realize he’s been akumanized because he’s already hot and walks around with a painted smile. Imagine how terrifying and effective he could be in this scenario. You know, as long as they don’t nerf him with Agrest Smooth Brain Syndrome. Assuming they even do in the first place.😔
@jellychaser7011
@jellychaser7011 6 күн бұрын
OKAY I HAVE A REALLY COOL BUT MIGHT BE STUPID IDEA. What if his power is giving the victim constant schizophrenic attacks. But they can still move around causing them to do stuff like jump on fake buildings, and try to save people who aren’t real or aren’t needing help. So while his friends and family gave Adrien a make believe fantasy world where nothing bad happened he does the same thing where they don’t know what’s real. And the schizophrenia is constant and can even make the victim not see things and always hear voices. I just thought of that idea and I’m very proud of it.
@andreasmeelie1889
@andreasmeelie1889 6 күн бұрын
Wow! You should be! I’m super impressed!🤩
@alliskye3996
@alliskye3996 8 сағат бұрын
Cool Power! Sad I didn't think of it lol. I wish the writers of this damn show would be this creative.
@jellychaser7011
@jellychaser7011 7 сағат бұрын
@@alliskye3996 Thank you 😊
@Icy-be5vl
@Icy-be5vl 6 күн бұрын
More like I hope that Adrien will join to Lila and this will be his own will choice. He will do that because he's gonna hate Marinette after she lied to him and this will be so satisfying.
@n.abookgirl2457
@n.abookgirl2457 6 күн бұрын
After HE breaks up with her!!!!!! Seriously, Astruc do us all a solid and swallow your darn PRIDE.
@ItsJae_37
@ItsJae_37 5 күн бұрын
i feel like there will be a possible breakkup happening, or a break, and I think it will be adrien that breaks up with marinette
@galaxystargazer8910
@galaxystargazer8910 6 күн бұрын
their going to need to make adrian akumatization flippin huge to make up for that finale for season 5. I hope he rips everyyyyyyone a new one
@lasseehrenreich5502
@lasseehrenreich5502 6 күн бұрын
I think it would be a very interesting story especially if they did it with out reverting it with time travel BS and it would be interesting to have Marinette face the fact that she made a horrible decision lying to Adrien and give Lila a chance to be a delightfully evil villain. Maybe they could even connect it to Tomoe somehow
@Marigold-h9f
@Marigold-h9f 6 күн бұрын
Adrien is my favorite character from the show, and for gods sake if another one of my favorites gets annihilated by the writing… it happened to my other two favorites Luka and Kagami when they weren’t needed for drama anymore and my heart can’t take it again.
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 6 күн бұрын
Hm, I see, this is a very interesting idea, I have actually been wondering how a Akumatization based on more Deep-Rooted Negative Emotions, instead of the usual Daily Surface-level Negative Emotions based on whatever happened on that said particular Day, would be like and how it would play/work out, I really hope they go this direction, at least to a certain extent.
@maryshashaw2895
@maryshashaw2895 6 күн бұрын
Plagg knows and I would hope he could say something
@AnimationStation3000
@AnimationStation3000 6 күн бұрын
I believe the magic works where they can't reveal their own holder's name. Even if I worked for all current holders, Gabe isn't a holder anymore.
@Junoisverysleepy
@Junoisverysleepy 6 күн бұрын
You know what? Let him cook. I think Marinette getting akumatized HAS to happen because of the reveal. At this point we’ve gotten THREE semi-successful reveals where it’s a happy moment between them and all is well before someone else ruins it and resets everything. A Marinette gets Akumatized because of all her lies and secrets finally getting out (of her own volition or not) is exactly what needs to happen for her character. Ignoring some of the shows cringey writing with her characterization, she’s Just a “normal girl with a normal life” who had literally had to hold up the fate of the UNIVERSE since she was 14, having to regulate her negative emotions to an insane degree in order to not crumple under that pressure and accidentally make things worse by getting akumatized. Not to mention that the only adult in her life who knew her secret and was supposed to be mentoring her got his memory WIPED and the same thing WILL happen to her one day. She is a ticking time bomb of stress, guilt, and anger. I think that’s what the fans need, and I think for extra tension it needs to be a finale where her role as the guardian, and therefore her memories, are at stake.
@frog-bucket
@frog-bucket 6 күн бұрын
Based on the actions that the writers have taken so far... I honestly think there's a strong chance that Adrien will never find out that his father was HawkMoth. He'll never know that Ladybug lied to the world. Gabriel will be forgotten and the story will move onto other drama. Hot take? Idk but I suggest not to get your hopes up.
@muichirotokito5624
@muichirotokito5624 6 күн бұрын
I don't know why everyone is putting so much emphasis on two minutes of the entire show, when we have an entire season along with a movie that explains the aftermaths of the wish and the complications it has created.
@aliahmedbanoo69420
@aliahmedbanoo69420 6 күн бұрын
It's more likely to happen now coz Gabe b4 never wanted to Akumatize adrien but Lila might
@njivwathomassilavwe2056
@njivwathomassilavwe2056 6 күн бұрын
Gabe definitely wanted to. In the episode where they gave up their miraculous and was sad Gabriel was ready to Akumatize him
@ojouu0
@ojouu0 6 күн бұрын
@@njivwathomassilavwe2056Gabe Is inconsistent anyway it doesn't matter
@Icy-be5vl
@Icy-be5vl 6 күн бұрын
Or better idea Adrien will join Lila by his own will and Lila might actually care about Adrien unlike Gabriel and doesn't want to akumanizate him. That would be a good plot twist. Good for me. Bad for you.
@njivwathomassilavwe2056
@njivwathomassilavwe2056 6 күн бұрын
@@Icy-be5vl Lila does not have the capacity to care about anyone but herself. Would honestly be a pretty lousy twist
@Icy-be5vl
@Icy-be5vl 6 күн бұрын
@@njivwathomassilavwe2056 If you think like that then you are as toxic like Marinette is.
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 6 күн бұрын
I think it's time for Marinette to be akumatized and reveal what she has always been on the inside: a neurotic with low self-esteem who wants to control everything.
@Icy-be5vl
@Icy-be5vl 6 күн бұрын
And Lila is the evil one? Huh!
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 6 күн бұрын
@@Icy-be5vl Meh, Lila is not a character. Is a mess.
@muichirotokito5624
@muichirotokito5624 6 күн бұрын
@@Icy-be5vl wtf r u even saying? Compared to whatever the frick Lila has done to what Marinette has is literally insane. Lila manipulates people, doesn't give a crap about them, tricked 3 women into thinking she is their daugher, causes multiple akumatizations on purpose, altered the school forms of her classmates, accusing people, getting people expelled with no remorse. Marinette is just keeping a secret from her boyfriend which she always had to do. Marinette will have to evantually tell Adrien about what happened, wheter he is as himself or as cat noir. The fact that you are justifying Lila, shows everything someone needs to know about you.
@Icy-be5vl
@Icy-be5vl 5 күн бұрын
@@muichirotokito5624 And that's why I love Lila. Lila is feminine. Girly. She's ambitious. Marinette is not feminine. She's the worst. I hate her.
@muichirotokito5624
@muichirotokito5624 5 күн бұрын
@@Icy-be5vl what does that have to do with anything? that you only like female characters?
@cristianlancaster1645
@cristianlancaster1645 6 күн бұрын
I've seen Adrien get akumatized 2 times in cat blanc and ephemeral but I really want to see Marinette akumatized someday in season 6
@ducki5218
@ducki5218 6 күн бұрын
Hear me out, adrien tells Nathalie because he feels like that's the only person he can even trust
@MelodyMeadows11037
@MelodyMeadows11037 6 күн бұрын
I love BOTH episodes! And to be honest, I love your idea. Let's see where the story goes!
@SamuelaKelia
@SamuelaKelia 6 күн бұрын
Tbh your ideas for season 6 and probably 7 are WAY better than Astruc could ever make
@jedemu
@jedemu 6 күн бұрын
Just something else that should get him akumatised: He cataclysm'ed his own dad, causing his dad to die
@bdariamihaela
@bdariamihaela 6 күн бұрын
2:00 MAKE US TWO. I LIKE EPHEMERAL AS WELL
@plipploup2142
@plipploup2142 6 күн бұрын
I didn't even know it mostly had haters!! I thought it was super cool and intense
@Superheroes_rule
@Superheroes_rule 6 күн бұрын
Hopefully they give Adrien something to do next season other than being the love interest
@everythinggirly916
@everythinggirly916 6 күн бұрын
If Adrien finds out that all the people closest to him had been lying to him, he'll break down for sure. The key word being "if" because I don't think it's going to happen. After all, that would mean that Marinette made a mistake.
@muichirotokito5624
@muichirotokito5624 6 күн бұрын
Marinette literally makes so much mistakes and she has to pay the consequences for them. Key examples being the finale of both season 3 and season 4. In season 3, marinette's jealousy caused her to give the miraculous to kagami instead of chloe to prevent the adrigami ship, this in turn left to chloe betraying ladybug, all the holders identities being revealed, master fu retiring, hawkmoth gaining access to the translated grimoire, and her being placed as the guardian of the miraculous. Season 4 on the other hand, her love for adrien and her constantly sidelining cat noir caused her to lose all the miraculous. :/. I don't really get what you are trying to say here? Maybe its that Marinette doesn't make mistakes? Which is clearly false, I have so many examples of her making mistakes and the consequences for it.
@user-yw8ys4kq5x
@user-yw8ys4kq5x 6 күн бұрын
@@muichirotokito5624 she still stakes adrien
@everythinggirly916
@everythinggirly916 6 күн бұрын
​​@@muichirotokito5624 Yeah, I guess I didn't explain it well. I just don't see Cat Noir getting angry at Ladybug for those mistakes, so I can't picture him getting akumatized over this. (I'm also upset that the writers tried to excuse her stalking Adrien.)
@21Hugues
@21Hugues 6 күн бұрын
I always thought there should be an episode about marionette and Adrien both getting akumatized at the same time and watching as Rena leads the team to victory it will give more development to the other pawns, I mean super hero people
@gamerhero9559
@gamerhero9559 6 күн бұрын
Adrian being lied to about his horrible father doesn't sit well for me. So having him akumatized again when his "soon-to-be-ex" girlfriend failed to tell him the truth. I'm more curious on how "Lila" will be the next major villain. Like what's her endgame?
@CK-solutions
@CK-solutions 2 күн бұрын
I think you're right in part. Adrien will be the first person Lila akumatises in the upcoming special. Because he's the most grieved over his father dying for something he saw as his mission - taking out Monarch. So sad at dad's departure, and mad he didn't prevent it as Cat Noir. Lila wouldn't turn that down, when he's the boyfriend she can mess Marinette up with. Only it doesn't go to plan, and Lila learns never to target Adrien again.
@maybe8985
@maybe8985 6 күн бұрын
Honestly, just exploiting his entire potential might be the best solution. Give him to actually talented writers.
@cutiepie120048
@cutiepie120048 5 күн бұрын
If everything that happened to Adrien happened me, I would be straight up traumatized - my goodness 😭😭😭
@whatslife2840
@whatslife2840 4 күн бұрын
Make a two part episode at the beginning of season 6, where Lila reveals the truth about Gabriel, making Adrien get akumatized, and when Adrien gets de-akumatized, he doesn’t apologize to Marinette like Kagami did in perfection. Adrien quits working with Marinette, taking the cat miraculous with him and either joining Lila or going off by himself and going against both of them. During the rest of season six, all of the other heroes and Paris civilians start to abandon her. And at the end of the season, Marinette is abandoned by everyone around her, making her get akumatized, leading off to season 7. If they can't even do something as simple as that, or anything actually decent, there's no hope for this show
@AbsolutelyAri1
@AbsolutelyAri1 4 күн бұрын
YOU COOKED THAT DISH EVENLY AND I WANT SECONDS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Bellatrixie98
@Bellatrixie98 6 күн бұрын
One thing I can't get in my head is, that it is established in Feast i guess, that the holder of the peacock can feel sentimonsters so Natalie as Mayoura should have felt that Cat Noir is a Sentimonster. That is a Plothole.
@zorospirit3794
@zorospirit3794 6 күн бұрын
Why does marinette think it's a good idea to hide his father being Paris biggest supervillian and being a senti- monster.
@dangerbuffrocky
@dangerbuffrocky 6 күн бұрын
Same reason why Nathalie and Felix aren't saying anything
@josratubangura
@josratubangura 6 күн бұрын
@@dangerbuffrockyfinally someone who mentions them 😭😭 it’s not just Marinette
@dangerbuffrocky
@dangerbuffrocky 6 күн бұрын
@@josratubangura people in the fandom love demonising Marinette for some reason as of she's the cause of all wars or something.
@littlesparrow303
@littlesparrow303 6 күн бұрын
Yeah I can defiantly see Adrien go down the villain path due to Marinette/Ladybug hiding secrets from him & all the anger he has shown in S5. Also it would be interesting to see him changing sides for a while. For Nino nah I wouldn’t say love him 😂 He revealed his & Rena’s identities & secrets between him & Ladybug to Adrien. I don’t think he can keep a secret
@shaykhmhssi3246
@shaykhmhssi3246 6 күн бұрын
I mean Marinette told Alya her secret identity, why can't Nino tell Adrien?
@littlesparrow303
@littlesparrow303 6 күн бұрын
@@shaykhmhssi3246 I mean true
@IsmaelCiulla
@IsmaelCiulla 6 күн бұрын
Will it actually stick? Will it not be a ‘What if’ episode?
@maryshashaw2895
@maryshashaw2895 6 күн бұрын
Chat is our boy ❤
@marz_suprimest
@marz_suprimest 6 күн бұрын
I'm sorry but with Thomas Astruc's influence it just wont happen because he just wants his sunshine boy to be protected and side with Mari/ladybug because she's "so great"
@AstraWonder
@AstraWonder 5 күн бұрын
Great idea! Love the part where while he’s akumatized he crawls towards marinette saying “I’m in love with a girl and her name is CHLOEEEEEE”
@infinityandbeyond2680
@infinityandbeyond2680 Күн бұрын
tell that to harry osborn, dad dies, hero lies, ends badly
@lloydxaria
@lloydxaria 6 күн бұрын
This is an amazing story. So amazing i want it in the show to make up for the past!
@maestrulgamer9695
@maestrulgamer9695 6 күн бұрын
8:20-OR,Lila finds out,Ladybug has no choice but to replace Cat Noir and no miraculous will be touched by him or anyone from his messed up family again!
@madrat8060
@madrat8060 6 күн бұрын
Astruc will probably never let this idea form in his head, but I'm willing to give him a chance to do the right thing and make Mari Sue suffer real consequences for her actions.
@Pythagoras180
@Pythagoras180 6 күн бұрын
It's kind of hard to take any of Smarty Pants's takes seriously when he continues to insist that there was nothing wrong with Adrien's character until the season 5 finale. He was already damaged beyond repair, the finale just made it obvious.
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF 5 күн бұрын
Hmm. Is that so? I’d say season 4 is where Adrien’s character went to shit! Season 5 was the final nail in the coffin.
@muichirotokito5624
@muichirotokito5624 4 күн бұрын
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF honestly i agree. Season 4 was not a good time for adrien and in season 5 it got a bit better. He was able to carry in certain episodes and even got the grown up buff in revolution. Sad it all went to crap in the finale
@aromaladyellie
@aromaladyellie 6 күн бұрын
I would love for them to akumatise marinette but she's so perfect and pure that the show would never allow it. Marinette's akumatisation would have to happen when Alya has the earrings for whatever reason- Alya offers/insists Marinette let Scarabella take care of Paris for a little while because she needs to relax, or she can't even spend any time with Adrien anymore because Lila has run them so ragged. I think also Luka should just *admit* he knows who Cat Noir is so Adrien has a confidant, it's so dumb that he can't have one. An episode where both Alya and Luka have the Ladybug and Cat Miraculouses where Marinette gets akumatised due to the misunderstanding you mentioned where she thinks Adrien is breaking up with her, and Adrien *can't help her* because Luka has his Miraculoous would be so... pleasing to the fandom I think? Adrien deserves so much more from this show. Him getting spotlight doesn't negate Marinette.
@clementine_icepepper
@clementine_icepepper 6 күн бұрын
Ya I thought was weird the story makes him to have zero to no guilt over his secrets even though martinet does makes him seem poorly written. it would be good plus we would see more of his perspective on all the event of the story
@Ryan-q2f
@Ryan-q2f 4 күн бұрын
Ok forget Adrien being akumitized Marinette needs to be akumitized the most the fact that her plot armor keeps that from happening is absurd
@clementine_icepepper
@clementine_icepepper 6 күн бұрын
Honestly it seems like at this point Adrian as a character as little to no agency and is hanging on the edge of being a side character I thing it would be good for the story to see him take more control the story arc’s
@Johanjannes
@Johanjannes 3 күн бұрын
At this point the only person adrien can trust is Felix kagami and Nino
@megarotom1590
@megarotom1590 Күн бұрын
I thought it was just Felix that was a sentimonster
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer 6 күн бұрын
Not a fan of akumatizing Adrien because it always takes away his agency and Marinette has to save him.
@melaniedwarka4665
@melaniedwarka4665 6 күн бұрын
True, unless he’s able to break free from the akuma like Chloe, Alya, and Nino did.
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer 6 күн бұрын
@@melaniedwarka4665 Kinda hated how that became a random thing with no further analysis. Chloe did it first and Hawk Moth remarked that she was unique, but that went nowhere.
@melaniedwarka4665
@melaniedwarka4665 6 күн бұрын
I agree. And if Adrien was to get akumatized, then he of all people should be able to break free from it on his own. But I feel like the writers/creators are too busy trying to make Ladybug/Marinette look good to consider that. In addition to Chloe, if Alya, Nino, and even Kagami can break free from an akuma, why not Adrien?
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer 6 күн бұрын
@@melaniedwarka4665 Adrien at this point is a love interest; his power as Ladybug's counterpart is never explored (nor the concept of destruction being just as important as creation), and his personal life had so much potential that they didn't capitalize on.
@melaniedwarka4665
@melaniedwarka4665 6 күн бұрын
That’s right. Marinette/Ladybug’s character got all the glory while Adrien got pushed to the sidelines, even though the villain they were fighting was his father! Adrien became nothing more than a love interest for Marinette. His father being the villain, he and Felix being senti monsters, Adrien wanting freedom, there was so much buildup centered around Adrien that the writers did absolutely nothing with in the end in favor of Ladybug/Marinette!
@generalkenobi2287
@generalkenobi2287 6 күн бұрын
Honestly if they do u timey-wimey reversing when arian get acumatized, I kinda wanna see what would happen if a humanlike sentimonster got their amuk a but broken to see him go crazy or sm
@Johanjannes
@Johanjannes 3 күн бұрын
Car noire in the show the character with the most reasons to be akumatized
@Keith_Norman
@Keith_Norman 6 күн бұрын
If he does get akumatized will the Senti monster theory will have to be proven true
@leonecore
@leonecore 6 күн бұрын
ten thousand times yes!!! i really like all the ideas listed in this video, and it actually inspired me to write a fanfiction about it. let's be real, it's not happening, but it's okay to hope that it does!
@shadowjelly2052
@shadowjelly2052 6 күн бұрын
Adrian akumatized? Sign me up. And I hope no time shenanigans occur
@SarcasticLoner14d09m2020y
@SarcasticLoner14d09m2020y 6 күн бұрын
Okay so brain? check heart? check excitement? check...hope I'm not missing anything. Let's buckle up once again!
@mimiquoi7380
@mimiquoi7380 6 күн бұрын
Adrien will probably get akumatize, but I really think everything is set for Marinette to also be akumatize. With Lila in the picture, all the pressure she will have and all those secrets she had to keep I those nexts seasons is the time for this akumatization.
@godzilla6461
@godzilla6461 6 күн бұрын
Cat Blanc is my third favorite vilain white suits him.
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 6 күн бұрын
If it "makes sense from a meta and narrative view" then chances are they won't do it. XD
@melodystarlight7933
@melodystarlight7933 6 күн бұрын
If we start something to make this happen in the show canon, do you think the writers would do it? Cause if so, I’m gonna start watching the show again. I stopped when I was 9 cause the cringe was too much and I got tired of the Will they won’t they bullshit but this would *actually* get me back into watching the show!
@victoriak3486
@victoriak3486 6 күн бұрын
I’ve been saying I really want a cat noir villain/anti-hero arc. I want Lila/Cerise to tell Adrien the whole truth, which would be interesting since she’d be telling the truth for once while revealing that Ladybug was the liar this time. This would also create a new dynamic for the love square: adrienette are dating and in love while ladynoir are enemies
@maestrulgamer9695
@maestrulgamer9695 6 күн бұрын
4:26-Talking about Lila,this could be worth a video on it's own! At first she wanted to be with Adrien,but Marinette found out she is a liar and got him instead. But now that she doesn't even want Adrien anymore,what is her motivation?Just being petty?That's not fitting for a good main villain!
@blorbo5537
@blorbo5537 6 күн бұрын
I think the only way Marinette would get akumatized is if alya or adrien takes her earrings off as it happens
@Neukarsmell
@Neukarsmell 4 күн бұрын
Sooooo here for Angry, Angsty Adrien!!
@KittMouri
@KittMouri 6 күн бұрын
I mean, the object of my aluma killing me if it breaks wouldn't be as upsetting to me as the controlling aspect. I mean, a bullet is also a thing that can kill me if it breaks into my body. And it's not exclusive to me. But, someone being able to find this thing and subsequently mind control me would be terrifying.
@user-wr8yu6nl6j
@user-wr8yu6nl6j 5 күн бұрын
I really don’t think they will do an identity reveal without some time related bs
@DZ_Mania_2024
@DZ_Mania_2024 6 күн бұрын
Honestly I thought season 6 would end with Marinette getting akumatized for the pure shock value. I did not think about how Chat Noir could be that event that leads up to it as a mid season or even close to end arc. That’s a whole other realm of possibilities where the heroes have to bring down their leaders. Or even more…what if Adrian’s amok cracks and Lila gets one half of the miraculouses and they have to retrieve it to make a wish. Maybe it leads to them learning each others identities. Something that makes Lila an even greater threat than Gabriel. You have seemingly unlocked a lot of potential thoughts for a good Season 6. Color me excited. Then again I still planned on watching because it’s one of my guilty pleasures where I don’t analyze all the bad choices and see the positives so who knows?!
@alguinyuannamor117
@alguinyuannamor117 6 күн бұрын
Miraculous ladybug & cat noir writers locking in for season 6
@Bob-x3u
@Bob-x3u 5 күн бұрын
I wish the senti-theory isn’t true but it isn’t
@LivinGacha-oh1we
@LivinGacha-oh1we 6 күн бұрын
i thought only felix was a senti-monster
@jellychaser7011
@jellychaser7011 6 күн бұрын
The drama that Felix and Kagami put on for Marinette indirectly directly confirmed Adrien and Felix (maybe Kagami) as sentimonsters.
@seanchernov7178
@seanchernov7178 6 күн бұрын
His arc is over though with him doing nothing. His enemy gone. Lila is fully for Marinate. He has and won't have anything to do. At least not as a companion hero... He has to radically change
@Rage3998
@Rage3998 6 күн бұрын
It's a good possibility I like that idea
@catofchaos
@catofchaos 6 күн бұрын
I didn't like what they did the first time it's one of the coolest things they could do so i hope they do it again
@wordsmith6154
@wordsmith6154 6 күн бұрын
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I actually like Ephemeral better than Chat Blanc. The story is just better, in my opinion. As opposed to Adrien loving Marinette right away because he learns she's Ladybug, I found it interesting and sweet to see Marinette learn to love Chat Noir as a part of Adrien and recognize those sides of him.
@meygana
@meygana 5 күн бұрын
Tbh I need Marinette to get akumatize somehow! They can make any excuse for her not having the miraculous, like idk... She took them off because Adrien gave her a new pair of earing for their month anniversary or something like that.
@cdbsstudios4456
@cdbsstudios4456 6 күн бұрын
Personally I like the idea and think it would finally get the show back to good. Personally I think if they do have the both akumatized they could have either them remain in control and use the Miraculous for evil or have the kwamis take them as they're akumatized and then give them to someone else. Have an episode where Alya and Nino become Miraculous holders. Heck with them now permanent holders of their own Miraculous have them unify and use that to take them both down.
@madhutekur1530
@madhutekur1530 6 күн бұрын
VIDEO IDEA: LOTR ROP SEASON 2 EP. 1,2,3,&4
@user-qw8yl9pr3u
@user-qw8yl9pr3u 6 күн бұрын
yeah but marinette akumatized means before the finale like finale part 1 before fight against lila
@clarisacalderon9555
@clarisacalderon9555 6 күн бұрын
Honestly....I want to see what would happen of adrien got akumatized and did a wish that reversed the wish but fixed his mom and dad and everyone but at the cost of himself....like what happens if he snaps out of existence? What if he gets controlled by someone who gets his ring? What if we see adrien akumatizedcwhere he is actually allowed to get angry and grieve hjs family properly? Or what if he isn't even made about nari not telling him but finds out that nathalie knew?
@Pan_Svichka
@Pan_Svichka 6 күн бұрын
Ho be honest i also had similar thoughts to you, and i guess im gonna cope as well
@user-qz5iz9zh3v
@user-qz5iz9zh3v 6 күн бұрын
Thomas .....c said adrien is not a main character
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF 5 күн бұрын
And Thomas is a sack of rotting garbage!
@plushmakerfan8444
@plushmakerfan8444 6 күн бұрын
Lila will 100% chance he will get akumatize
@Icy-be5vl
@Icy-be5vl 6 күн бұрын
No? She actually cares about him and doesn't want to hurt him like that but yes. For you it's easy to call her pure evil and think that Marinette is a hero.
@plushmakerfan8444
@plushmakerfan8444 6 күн бұрын
@@Icy-be5vl fair point.
@alexbynkov3887
@alexbynkov3887 6 күн бұрын
If there is anyone in the show who will definitely succeed in akumatizing Marinette it will definitely be Cerise
@plushmakerfan8444
@plushmakerfan8444 6 күн бұрын
@@alexbynkov3887 fair point
@archermania9314
@archermania9314 6 күн бұрын
Ngl, I hope Adrien gets Akumatized. That is smth I need in my lifeee. I want to see him either obsessed or mad at Marinette similar to Cat Blanc. Our boi has been through the ringer these last 3 seasons so him being akumatized and actually being given at least 5 minutes of screen time expressing his anger or sadness will be very enjoyable compared to the writers pathetic attempts to make Marinette seem flawed 🙄. I love Mari and all that but u falling down, obsessing over ppl and not using ur brain are not legitimate flaws.
@mvpbeam8918
@mvpbeam8918 6 күн бұрын
W
@Junoisverysleepy
@Junoisverysleepy 6 күн бұрын
You know what? Let him cook. I think Marinette getting akumatized HAS to happen because of the reveal. At this point we’ve gotten THREE semi-successful reveals where it’s a happy moment between them and all is well before someone else ruins it and resets everything. A Marinette gets Akumatized because of all her lies and secrets finally getting out (of her own volition or not) is exactly what needs to happen for her character and the show, otherwise it’d just be too repetitive. Ignoring some of the show’s cringey writing with her characterization, she’s Just a “normal girl with a normal life” who literally had the fate of the UNIVERSE on her shoulders since she was 14. Having to regulate her negative emotions to an insane degree during puberty and high school in order to not crumple under that pressure and accidentally make things worse by getting akumatized. Not to mention that the only adult in her life who knew her secret and was supposed to be mentoring her got his memory WIPED, and the same thing WILL happen to her one day. She is a ticking time bomb of stress, guilt, and anger. I think that’s what the fans need, and I think for extra tension it needs to be a finale where her role as the guardian, and therefore her memories, are at stake. I feel like that has to be addressed, and Adrien finally truly understanding Marinette and talking her off the ledge is the kind of angst the fandom will eat up.
@doodica1308
@doodica1308 6 күн бұрын
Hey mate you did see the comment Astruc made that he will always be a Ken?
@coursefearwell4847
@coursefearwell4847 6 күн бұрын
How much you wanna bet they’re gonna pull a “Ladybug didn’t tell Chat Noir about Gabriel being Hawkmoth because Plagg asked her not too” Plot, so it won’t be her fault?
@Kadel___
@Kadel___ 6 күн бұрын
I think Chat Blanc is going to be coming back eventually. Marinette has already had a nightmare about it before and continues to worry about it. Adrien had a nightmare about it at the end of season 5 well he was facing his father as well as when he was locked up. There's no way the writers would put that in if they weren't hinting at doing another episode of Chat Blanc. It just has too much potential.
@maestrulgamer9695
@maestrulgamer9695 6 күн бұрын
6:21-Bro,u judge in every video about the show.
@Owell_Owl
@Owell_Owl 6 күн бұрын
This could be interesting if this is the route they have decided to go with maybe make it a special episode like Kwami's Choice or The Queens Battle and they would need Marinette as a joke as they would need the episode not to be too dark like Her breaking into the party in Gabriel Agreste or Her Depressed Voicemail in Transmission
@JillStearnes
@JillStearnes 6 күн бұрын
Earlyyyyyyyy
@OMGgamer3rd
@OMGgamer3rd 6 күн бұрын
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