Smellin' Better on the Wild Frontier

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[@jerseyred9554]

The first time I heard the term "toilet water" I was probably round age 11 Christmas shopping with my father in the pharmacy in town. I asked him what he thought I should buy for my Aunt and he replied " Just get her a bottle of toilet water." Without missing a beat I said " Do you have a fancy bottle at home I can use?"

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HAHAH!

[@AdaM48state]

🥃🥃🥃

[@Idahoguy10157]

I found the term toilet water equally confusing 😅. Wasn’t just you

[@Sourdo1]

The Roddy McDowell take was worth the price of admission. which wasn't much, I admit. But these vignettes are always informative and very, very entertaining.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you learned and enjoyed.

[@OpieDogie]

Oh the stench of it all . . . out on the coast, the natives (chumash) at the mission would greet the “expeditions” from Mexico with these small pillows made from sewing scraps about 1.5” X 1.5” filled with sage. They would hold them against their noses so they wouldn’t have to smell the stench from the arriving party members. They must have been ripe after months on the trail. Excellent video Santee!!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Fun info! Thank You.

[@OgamiItto70]

That barber in _High Plains Drifter_ cracks me up every time I see that movie.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yep!

[@trynsurviven2440]

It’s bath day again already?? Jeez it’s 15 degrees outside I’m not jumpin in the creek that cold.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Brrr!

[@Devin_Stromgren]

minus 15 where I'm at.

[@trynsurviven2440]

@@Devin_Stromgren it’s going to get colder here over the next couple of days but I don’t think it will get that cold. Somewhere around 0 to -5 next three nights. Brrrrrrr

[@charlesmiller6826]

Thanks, Santee. Missing this episode would have really stunk. Eau d' toilet is a term i haven't heard in a hot minute, and i think we should bring it back.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

It probably is used somewhere.

[@bigblue6917]

Okay. Time to bring out a very old joke. I stopped using toilet water because the seat kept falling on my head. 🤕

[@mistyjames810]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂😂😂

[@marcosaraiva9205]

Great ,be smelly after a good bath! Have a great weekend amigo

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HA! Thanks!

[@AdaM48state]

MARCO!!!

[@marcosaraiva9205]

@AdaMtheNinja76 Hi amigo AdaM

[@AdaM48state]

@@marcosaraiva9205 hi amigo. How was your holiday?

[@marcosaraiva9205]

@AdaMtheNinja76 Great ! Thanks for asking amigo, I hope yours was great has well.

[@sambarnard9628]

I'm not an antique, yet, but vividly remember my grandmother giving my sisters toilet water for Christmas. Great video.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Love that!

[@chubbethsthunder]

Smelly good content. Thank you very much. You and your family have abeautiful and blessed weekend.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank You!

[@AM-lh7rw]

Bay rum, brings back memories of the 70s.😊

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Ahhh, yes

[@Brombear]

An excellent episode Santee! Hadn't heard the term "Toilet Water" or "Eau de Toilet" in a while and brought back some memories from long ago. By the by, you weren't kidding about Ambergris and Castorium - checked them out on eBay and almost spit my coffee out! Have a great weekend, and here's hoping that the upcoming season is safe and prosperous for everyone! Happy trails!

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

Read an history of human personal relations written in the 1970s. The writer recorded studies of perfume. Seems if a person wears the same underwear for a week, exercises pretty hard and doesn’t shower the underwear male or female will get a scent to it. But all the perfumes that are most successful have way down in the scent trail, only discovered on chemical analysis is that same smell. We don’t smell it consciously but when we sniff perfume down deep in our subconscious our most sensitive olfactory sensors picks out that smell and our subconscious likes it.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Why thank you!

[@johnraines4825]

Eau de Horse Stall was a favorite!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Oh yes!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Very interesting video Santee. It also reminds me that Saturday is bath day!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

So true!

[@Aswaguespack]

Already Saturday? Oh wait, I’m retired! EVERYDAY is Saturday!! 😈😈😉😂

[@readytogo6569]

@@Aswaguespack. Then you gotta take a bath everyday!🤣

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

Ambergris! I've been bingeing The Pirate History Podcast for the last few months, and that's something that the buccaneers would collect when they weren't roving. They didn't know where it came from, just that it was used in perfumes. There were theories that it was discharge from beehives, or from a tree. Also, this video made me remember (and going off of memory here) the scene in The Young Riders when The Kid put on some cologne and walked over to Lou (who was a girl passing herself off as a boy). Lou sniffs and says, "You smell like a wh*rehouse." "What? ... How would *you* know that?" "I know a lot that you don't know about," and tells him to get back to grabbing the supplies they came to the store for. Cody walks over and asks Kid, "Something wrong?" sniffs, "Woo! Nobody light a match!" Kid walks over toward Jimmy, who sniffs and then starts trying to wave the scent away.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I remember that scene now!

[@greghardy9476]

I was watching something on the History Channel that said it wasn’t actually legal regular folks to sell Ambergris. They never explained why.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

@@greghardy9476 Interesting!

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

@@greghardy9476 I might have an answer for you, but it's complicated because of the differences between the different colonies and their home countries. In the case of the English and French colonies, they usually set up joint stock companies to administer and run certain parts of the colonial economy and government. So anything that was brought in (slaves, glass, paper, etc) or taken out (ambergris, logwood, sugar, etc) was supposed to be through those company contacts to ensure that the company would make a profit. The companies would usually have royal backing, so cheating the company was the same as cheating the sovereign. So while a buccaneer could collect the ambergris, they had to sell it to the company contact in the colony, who'd have it shipped back to Europe to be processed into perfume. But they could take it to a different colony (each island was run on its own) if they thought they would get a better price. Spain, however, had more of a tight grip on their holdings, with everything being held in the name of the monarch, and everything having to be passed up or down the chain from centralized locations. They didn't want outside traders bringing in or taking out any goods, and if they caught you, it was rough.

[@NGMonocrom]

Well, what can I say.... gotta smell good, for the ladies. 🤠

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yep!

[@LivingHistorysMysteries]

A very...enticing video subject Santee. I use Bay Rum myself and boy does the wife hate it. lol. I tried explaining it was an often used recipe from the old westian era and all she says is use it when ya go to the saloon, but not when we're going to WalMart.. I swear, some people. LOL.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Mine smells good. Rita doesn't seem to hate it. Maybe she's just being nice...

[@LivingHistorysMysteries]

@@ArizonaGhostriders 😂 Maybe. I like the Bay Rum personally. It makes me smell all sexified. 😂

[@TimKoehn44]

Excellent episode Santee! Have a great weekend!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks! You too!

[@jasonhatt4295]

Thanks for the offer, but I’ve already had my bath this year

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

That's good

[@CaliforniaFly]

That cracked me up!!!

[@tomjackson4374]

I remember when I was a kid and we wuz pore (that's how real poor people say it) the bathing facilities was a number 10 tub on the back porch and if you were lucky enough to have a date the smell good was Daddy's Old Spice. And Ma's birthday present was always that cheap perfume from the five and dime that she would act like it was so special. But for all that why do I remember that as the good old days?

[@lightweight1974]

Same here. 'Cuz that's the way we lived.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Those were the good old days for sure. Mine was "Hi Karate"

[@tomjackson4374]

@@ArizonaGhostriders I remember that stuff. That was when David Carridine was Kung Fu fighting. Some guy I was working with tried to give me the "Grasshopper" nick name but, thank God, it didn't stick. But if I got caught wearing that Hi Karate smellum it would have been all over but the crying.

[@lightweight1974]

@@ArizonaGhostriders Old Spice, Hi Karate, Brut. Our dad's sure did smell good. First time I shaved, with my dad's old Gillette razor, and slapped some of his Old Spice on, I thought my face was on fire. I wish I was back there.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

@@tomjackson4374 😂😂

[@johnwolfen4243]

Hmmm? You say-n I sink? Well, the dog does like being close to me.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

🤠

[@nachoman408]

Hey, Santee! I remember a school fieldtrip in either elementary (my dear Santee...lol) or middle school, where we went to a famous city park right here in San Jose, ca. where we all got assigned nicknes by the ranger and they explained how people of the 1800s would use different things in nature. Like there was a plant root that you could use as soap. I dont remember the other nicknames but mine was "cowboy cologne" and it was a certain plant or leaf that cowboys would rub on themselves to smell good!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Cool info! 🤠

[@grahamhorne6956]

That triggered some memories. I seem to recall a light-hearted episode of the Virginian centred around Eau de Cologne and Doug McClure of blessed memory kept referring to it as ooh-ooh cologony with a hard 'g'. Happy New year to all from England.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I'll have to watch that episode! Thanks.

[@gijoe508]

Watching this while my hot water heater is broken. Took a ice cold shower yesterday. Learning the difficulties of bathing in the 19th century. Going to heat water on the stove top next time.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

hope it gets fixed soon

[@michaelpage4199]

You could just get a whiff of history wafting in the air on that one.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂😂

[@Dsdcain]

Too funny. Don't want to sound weird (well weirder) but I thought of your channel the other day when I was watching one of my favorite westerns, High Plains Drifter. Then your interesting video comes out and you have a Clint Eastwood clip from the very same film. Thanks for finding interesting things from the old west for us. Stay safe out there, and take it easy man.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You're welcome

[@Mr.56Goldtop]

AAAAHH, nothing like the sweet scent of a cologne masking the smell of BO (an old boss of mine)! I like Bay Rum, a mild spicy fragrance, I know it's a favorite of the T-REX!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

So good!

[@alan_whoneedstiedye]

A real dandy smelling episode. Thanks!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank You!

[@jeffryrichardson9105]

Wow! Great video!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank You!

[@joelhurley2678]

Very interesting Santee, thank you so much for sharing as usual, you have a great video.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

My pleasure!

[@thebanjooutlaw]

That Ogallala Bay Rum is a fine product!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I like it.

[@victorwaddell6530]

Thanks again Santee & Co.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Any time!

[@victorwaddell6530]

I still have that book The Singing Cowboys to give you . I'm the guy that sent you the case of Cheerwine and South Carolina BBQ sauce . Let me know your post box number and the book is yours . No scam .

[@mathewweeks9069]

Your awesome and awesome video be safe out there

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank You!

[@mathewweeks9069]

Your welcome dude

[@stanley917]

We got wind of it........

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HA!

[@JimBailey]

Thank you so much Santee. Have a great upcoming week. :)

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You are so welcome!

[@daveyjoweaver6282]

A sweet smellin episode fer ser! Thanks heaps! DaveyJO In Pennsylvania

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank You! Hope all is well.

[@scenicdriveways6708]

Great episode Santee, Have a great weekend.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks, you too!

[@mherod51]

There was a time when Americans hygiene wasn't quite as chemically antiseptic & deodorized as it is today. Some Europeans, notably the French, still practice lots of cologne use due to bathing habits we'd consider sub-par.

[@Detman101]

Guess i've got a little frenchie in me then, I always overspray my fragrances 🤣😂

[@Devin_Stromgren]

Fun fact. The reason Americans started bathing every day was due to a propaganda campaign by soap manufacturers in the early 20th century. Their sales had steadily increased all through the 19th century due to the average income also increasing, but by the turn of the century pretty much everyone could afford soap so their sales flattened out. So to increase sales they all got together and ran ad campaigns to convince the American public that if they didn't bathe every single day they were disgusting. In reality unless you are engaging in particularly sweaty labor or the weather conditions result in the same, bathing once a week is perfectly sufficient to keep you from stinking.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

True

[@Backroad_Junkie]

0:49 Heck, I'll supply the line. "When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yep

[@brucelovenite]

another awesome video loved it thank you

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Our pleasure!

[@WhaleGold]

The first time I really became aware of ambergris was in the 1980's reading about some of it floating up on the beach, probably in the 1800's, and the locals thought it smelled so bad they piled it up and burned it; too late did they learn it was worth more than their weight in gold!!! Then later I bought the only season of "The Buccaneers" TV show starring Robert Shaw, before he started hunting big fish. I watched it when I was a kid in the '50s and saw then they did have an episode about ambergris; they called it "whale gold," hence my username for KZbin. Always wondered if anyone knew where it came from.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

There was a study done and one theory is it is undigested squid beaks.

[@Forests0fFantasy]

My Family discovered my Granddad's recipe for "Olde Bay Rum" Cologne that he and fellow sailors would make on the ship during WWII so they could smell better on shore leave. They would buy the ingredients while in Port and put it all in a big container to cure while the ship was on mission. We made a batch using the recipe and it worked really well, might not have the same longevity of modern fragrances, but I still like to splash some on now and then

[@Devin_Stromgren]

I'm guessing it had more ingredients than the most basic recipe of just soaking bay leaves in rum?

[@Forests0fFantasy]

@Devin_Stromgren yeah, it had cloves, peppercorns, a single vanilla bean, and it used "clear liquor" (vodka) and rum as the base. Might have had a few other ones, but that's what I remember off the top of my head

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Wow!!!

[@indigowolf556]

What a great video Santee. When I was little I had heard the term toilet water and of course you always think it's the water in the toilet and why would people want to be wearing that? I don't know how you do it giving us all that information in a short period of time and making it fun and interesting. Thank you for all the hard work that you do.😊👍🤠

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂😂

[@nate2064]

Jockey Club cologne is actually on sale at the Newport Historical Society Museum in Newport Rhode Island and a favorite of JFK

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yep

[@swimasfastasyoucan]

See you on down the trail mate

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You too!

[@danrichmond8979]

I remember a movie clip where Stan Laurel's hat shot up when he smelled something.😅

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

He was such a character!

[@davidfreeman2599]

Pinaud Clubman goes back to the early 1800s, and is still available at your drugstore.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I use it.

[@tedebear108]

😅Good morning. Very cool. Ted from Texas

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Hey there!

[@led8541]

Great video Santee

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thanks!

[@Grizzlybike]

Loved it!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank You!

[@ericruss6734]

Not to partial to lilac water. I prefer gunpowder and whiskey. This video definitely passed the smell test. Thanks, Santee, for more interesting information.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You're welcome

[@GUNMETALGUYUSA]

I know a couple of cowpokes 🐄 that could use some flowery tonic water. 🤠👍🏽

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂

[@martykitson3442]

Got right up to your nose in that one 🤠👍👍

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂

[@nagjrcjasonbower]

Neat! Funny how a cologne in a can spray is called “Axe”. I guess it chops the BO in half?

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Maybe

[@MARIAHElbert]

Thank you Santee I have been wondering about this for a while, just remember scouts!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank You!

[@brianfuller757]

My dad used to call it toilet water as well. And I still use Bay Rum after shave. It's interesting that it both smells good and sterilises.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes!

[@mistyjames810]

Thanks Santee, smell ya later! 😂🤠😁

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Any time!

[@justinweaver8107]

Never knew this santee❤

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Cool!

[@6omega2]

I learned recently that Custer used to perfume his long hair with cinnamon oil.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

No doubt

[@Bucklerbjorn]

Another great episode :) keep em comming Santee :)

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Tak!

[@larry1824]

Soap toilet water any barber shop stuff. Sweet smelling Mr Earp

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes

[@eancola6111]

I learned about ambergris on Murdoch Mysteries, if you haven’t seen that show I think you’d like it

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank You!

[@LionquestFitness]

Just too sweet!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂😂

[@davemorgan9342]

Need smellyvision for this one........ Great vid........

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂

[@wadejustanamerican1201]

Thanks Santee, have a great weekend.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You too!

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

that castor gland from the beaver butt is also part of vanilla extract

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Used to be. Not anymore, I read.

[@ronaldhuss8915]

That really stunk Good job pard, now I'm about to apply ode' the doo da day

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂😂😂

[@Colts4Life100]

Top 3 best western channels

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank You!

[@Colts4Life100]

@@ArizonaGhostriders no thank you

[@notdeaded1416]

Time to get goin for the day and take a shower. Smell ya’ later Santee! 😊

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes please!

[@ralphperez4862]

Dang Dude. You smell. Ha 😂. Great episode. These are great.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

LOL!

[@AmericanOldWestTales]

Frontier Love

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yowza!

[@AmericanOldWestTales]

@@ArizonaGhostriders Can you share email where i can contact ?

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

It's in the channel info section. Thank You!

[@txgunguy2766]

I prefer Ogallala Bay Rum after shave. $20 from Duluth Trading Company, the only place I know of to get it.

[@MikeArnold-i5c]

Been using Bay Rum (and Pinaud brand products) for 40 years. Never considered any other. 🙂👍

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I use Pinaud talc

[@MikeArnold-i5c]

@@ArizonaGhostriders I use several of their products including the talc. Been around for ages, and real barbershops used their product when ii was a kid. Great stuff.

[@alexikoerner8527]

Thank you dear friend for this video, could you tell us about the Monnshiner on the Wild Frontier? love from France.EDIT: I just noticed a video that is 3 years old; cheers!😊🤠

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Great!

[@somekid6718]

Another excellent video from Santee

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@readytogo6569]

Santee, where ya at, Pardner? I would love to see you, your town, and the shows.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Tucson, Arizona

[@cornbread1955]

👍👍👍😎☕

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Thank You!

[@toddstrickland973]

When someone says toilet water, only one imagine comes to mind

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yes!

[@bobbycollings6964]

Keep up the good work! 👍 Also, How about doing a video about the Donner party?

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Will do!

[@Detman101]

Love love loved this episode, as I'm a fragrance maker and occasionally sell my creations.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

That's awesome!!!! Do you make "your" version of Bay Rum?

[@billcarson4187]

Hey Santee ! Could you make a video about the Colt 1860 Army ? -Bill Carson-

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I will!

[@heathboeddeker5401]

Howdy Santee, one ingredient that ya missed to mention is Skunk essence which is still used in high dollar perfumes Sir.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Good call!

[@ponydiehl8775]

Skunk yikes🦨🦨

[@oregonoutback7779]

Imagine the first day on a new job collecting Sperm Whales, only to find out it's the other way around ... Yikes!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HAHA!

[@ponydiehl8775]

this video sure don't stink 😄

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HA! Thank You!

[@EricDaMAJ]

When it comes to being a rough and tumble manly man, vanity is displaying minimal vanity. Given the choice of verbal eloquence, fancy clothes, after shave, cologne, deodorant, well groomed hair, and well groomed facial hair they pick only two. Maybe three.

[@Devin_Stromgren]

Uh oh... I have all of those vanities... Except the well groomed hair. That's getting thin up top now.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

I understand.

[@jacobbarney2924]

You post this video the day I forgot deodorant at work.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂😂 Oops!

[@Mr.Big-Gunz]

I put on some of that "Toilet Water", once, But the Lid fell down, & hit me in the head....🤠

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HA!

[@robertjensen1438]

What would happen if skunks lost their smell? They'd become ex-stinked.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂😂

[@kirkstinson7316]

Aqua Velva

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

1917....maybe a little late but still there.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

The only aftershave that i use is Bay Rum. I just like it as it smells manly to me

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Me too

[@KidYuma1880]

Thanks Santee, as being represented of a highwayman such as myself, not always able to take baths or even rivers. What might work is if clothes pins were invented to hide smell, works might look silly especially for highwaymen. -Kid Yuma

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Ahhh!!

[@KidYuma1880]

@@ArizonaGhostriders :-))

[@PinkertonJM]

A smelly episode, Santee! Hope this one doesn't stink!!? 😂😉

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

😂

[@justinsane7128]

What no Pepe la pew?

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

HAHA!

[@joshuabarnett3639]

Santee, It made me cringe in the good, the bad, and the ugly scene when the ugly is in the bath with his revolver

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Me too!

[@GC-Jo]

His revolver went off, I was thinking sure... maybe Santee can do a video on that!??

[@Devin_Stromgren]

@@GC-Jo When the US military tested cap and ball revolvers prior to adoption, one of the tests they had to pass was they still had to go off after sitting in a bucket of water for an hour.

[@markely7587]

I wear Bay Rum sometimes, and old spice. Nice hat, one of Mike’s?

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Yep!

[@markely7587]

@@ArizonaGhostriders nice! Thought it looked like his work.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

@@markely7587 I have to say, it fits me perfectly. He tried a similar hat on me then just knew the fit. Very pleased with it.

[@anthonyneighbors1932]

I was told the would use animal fat and grease to make perfume and make up. Also bat poop was and sometimes still is.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Interesting.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

ambergris only coming extremely rarely from a highly hunted species on the verge of extinction made it hugely expensive…so cheap alternatives were developed because of it giving rise to most of the fragrances that we know today the old west folks would have hated knowing what was in the expensive French stuff, their homemade smells were better anyway!

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

🥃🦖🦖

[@milahancock6405]

It’s odd that they couldn’t make goat milk soap. Like the stuff you’d find from people who are probably selling them at fairs

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Oh, that was around. I'm sure it was used out west

[@milahancock6405]

@@ArizonaGhostriders Ah!😅

[@philpartin8618]

Santee. Could you do something about the standard footwear in the old west?

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Sure!

[@fireorb2]

Yeah, males defiantly can smell much worse. I used to work at a teen program at a YMCA, and the boys would go play basketball, the aroma and odor in the gym was something to behold. It's kinda hilarious the way guys where given much less stronger scents for colognes in the old west.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Interesting!