Smurf accounts doing bad things! | iRacing Fixed Ferrari at Spa

[@ridinggreen1361]

Hi Dave, really glad you raise the point of smurf accounts, and iracing needs to implement a form of decay system. The higher your irating, the quicker it decays. It is especially bad in the Porsche Cup series, since you have people aspiring for PESC. It is breaking both the irating and the safety rating system as high IR people never race officials with their main account, thereby pulling up the ladder behind them. It's very hard to achieve 6-7-8k as a 5k driver when the strength of field is listed as 2-3k, but in reality is 7k.

[@the_real_beaker_]

the best thing I could think of was that the 2 accounts share SR so they can still be in lower splits, for whatever reason, and they can keep their high iRating on the other. but you will get demoted if you are an asshole haha

[@FG_SIMRACING]

Why iRating hunting or SR hunting so badly ? Makes no sense.

[@the_real_beaker_]

@@FG_SIMRACING 99% of people that have Smurfs are content creators or legit pros because they have to maintain a certain license and SR to compete. So they make a Smurf account and just don’t care. It’s in the sporting code you aren’t allowed to tank your iRating in order to gain an edge. How this isn’t it idk other than iRacing doesn’t care because they are making twice as much off one person

[@koshkelley4566]

@@the_real_beaker_ because it’s technically a new acc so you can’t be tanking your other acc….they do need to do something about it tho as people do drive different on there spares, I understand pros not wanting to lose a license and unless a stupidly high sof they lose irating even by winning, but that’s not everyone else’s issue

[@the_real_beaker_]

@@koshkelley4566 no I get that it’s a loophole I’m just saying that if they have that rule then they should do something about just having a second account.

[@indritademi9073]

That overtake at 12:04 was like Hakkinen overtake on Shumacher at Spa in 2000.

[@tonyf9076]

Ive never heard the term "smurf" acoount Dave, i rocked up expecting a blue fella with a white hat to do some racing for us 😮

[@AntikerTealc77]

We did, blue lighting and the white shiny bald head.

[@koshkelley4566]

It’s a high ir driver using a second acc and usually they do stuff on it they wouldn’t with there proper acc

[@MrKrampyHands]

Yeah this is the first time I'm hearing Smurf account myself as well it's comical sounding

[@atlantic_love]

​@@koshkelley4566how would you even prove someone's doing that?

[@koshkelley4566]

@@atlantic_love ip address

[@PeterBee911]

Pretty happy that the guy who tried to put the other dude into the wall by squeezing him, got himself wrecked. Play stupid game, win stupid prizes.

[@davidius74]

It was good to see that but unfortunately because of that stupidity the yellow and white car got damaged as he couldn't avoid it and his race got ruined which is the point Dave was making.

[@Brooker0013]

Smurf accounts shouldn't be allowed. To me it says " I don't need to be careful or respectful cos it not my main account" ✌🏼

[@Mysterion157]

Genuine question Dave, if the irating on your other account doesn't need protecting, why use the alt account all the time anyways? I trust that you drive the same on either account but is there really a need for a 2nd account in the first place?

[@davecamyt]

Tbh not at all, but this is just the I've been racing on.

[@bertram-raven]

"Mac From The Back" is a really a Smurf account! Not an evil Smurf. More like a slightly annoying child in a Halloween Smurf costume coming up behind you and shouting "boo!" 😜

[@mr1k666]

😂😂😂

[@nazart7830]

Ferrari challenge is always a shit show with overly agressive drivers

[@bertram-raven]

If you see a Ferrari with Red Bull livery, .... well you can guess the rest.

[@Enjoying-Life]

Hey Dave, do you use filtering or do any post edits? Looks great while mine is so-so

[@Ivanoskyao]

Even dragging brakes dont work anymore. Previously you would see temps rise but if u notice they don’t anymore.

[@kevinmurray1764]

Great video again Dave im amazed at how much time you make uo on the brakes against other drivers. You mentioned adjusting the brake Bias on the lead up to the chicane do you put it more to the front ?

[@davecamyt]

For braking super hard in a straight line with minimal trail braking I move it towards the rear 👍

[@steve196134]

Iv'e seen guys start in the back and drive like animals to get up front. I think they challenge themselves but its not right .

[@TheFrontyer]

People who dont qualify should be forced to start from pits and not released before rest of the field passes turn 1 to avoid this issue.

[@thefourfourfour9512]

@@TheFrontyer ive been in a few lobbies where even if i qualified, the best i could hope was 1 position gain from my car number. i.e dead last. I shouldnt be penalized for not qualifying in such a scenario or when I legit dont have time to qualify cos I signed up for the race with under a 1 minute to go. B.w necessities, grabbing a drink and what not ... im not making the qualifying session and Im clicking grid up with under a 1 min to go.

[@TheFrontyer]

@@thefourfourfour9512Neither is a valid excuse to not qualify. If you dont have time to race properly, then dont do it at all. Games like GT7 or F1 may suit you better as theyre less serious and more casual.

[@SiCaRiI_DaGgEr]

@@TheFrontyer You do know Dave normally does not qualify so would you say the same applies towards him? I do the same to avoid the mayhem but if I get caught behind slower drivers so be it, but I find I tend to have cleaner races doing so in comparison to doing a quali and started in th e middle of the field only for my race to end in the 1st corner because of idiots.

[@thefourfourfour9512]

@@TheFrontyer its not all about you. The way it is now is great.

[@andrewnz2025]

I watch every video you make; I have for years. I remember the first video of Mac Evad for iracing getting out of rookies, and then Mac from the back. My personal opinion is that account has run its course once you got up to near abouts your true iR But it’s your money; do what you like, I’ll keep watching because I’m a fan of your work. But yeah alt accounts ruin the experience for the average sim racer when they’re not in parity with their true iR

[@MarkPentler]

Last incident, guy on the right hits the curb and gets pushed over to the guy on the left it seems, but he absolutely pushed a bit too far to the right after that.

[@mmartineyes]

Dave from his Smurf account: other smurfs are bad.

[@davecamyt]

Not once did I say that. I said whatever account you're on you can't drive like a dick

[@cdeppracing216]

the last couple days of Ferrari's at SPA was filled with the worst drivers

[@Dadpoolmusic]

I can't wait to start racing. I'm so excited. I need a setup so bad lol

[@TheFrontyer]

Used G27, about $50

[@Dadpoolmusic]

@@TheFrontyer yeah I'm looking for anything in my area for pickup and Amazon seems like the only options

[@hotstepper887]

@@Dadpoolmusic Costs a couple grand to have it reasonably good.

[@Dadpoolmusic]

@hotstepper887 yeah saving penny's rn

[@mattanderson9375]

I don't care for smurf accounts, goes against the whole point of having an iracing and safety rating.....

[@viperion_nz]

I *think* I've seen Laurent's other account around the place and IIRC they do, in fact, drive like that on there as well; at least, when the race started I was trying to figure out which driver with a number after their name was going to be the offender, and Laurent's name jumped out at me as one I recognised as a troublemaker from past races (not just yours). So I think maybe it's more just their driving "style" rather than it being on their alt. Inexcusable _either_ way, of course

[@logo8009]

As I said before there is no reason for anyone to have more than one account. Yes, Dave I watch your channel,but still not a fan of two accounts because of this very reason. Not everyone has integrity 100% of the time. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy your content.

[@Skullmember]

Though race Dave, I never understood smurf accounts. Nice to see another video so quick after the other one

[@crazyoliver7877]

17:30 OH! That's where the youtube short came from the other day.

[@richdudecamaro]

Hey Dave. What are your computer specs that are running these triple Monitors? What fps are you getting and are your settings fairly high in iracing? Thanks my friend.

[@spikes_818]

I'm not quiet sure, but dave said in a video lately (where he switched to a single monitor) that he uses a 1080TI (i believe) and an i9? Edit: I9 10900K with RTX 3090. just looked up the video that he posted 2 weeks ago

[@Conrad711]

Typical driving standards lately...wish that wasnt the case! Dives and not leaving a cars width are every race incidents i come across now.

[@geoffheard5768]

It's the problem with the hot lapper fueled system. Thousands of laps BY THEMSELVES on the 'racing line' to achieve those fastest laps. Throw these drivers in among other cars and....dumbfounded. There's another car on MY bit of track. 'What do I do now??' Consequently, we have the current driving standards.

[@buttz]

Some people seem to have too much money and time using Smurf accounts.

[@LearnToRace]

Would have been interested in seeing Laurent's onboard to see what his steering wheel does

[@davecamyt]

He was streaming. I watched it after this race. His car didn't just drift over to the right 👍

[@lorenzorubino2195]

Hi Dave, by looking at your telemetry I noticed that the throttle takes so much time to hit 100%, it stays at 97-98 for a while. Maybe change the max calibration to hit 100% sooner.

[@davecamyt]

They've been off for adjustments and back on. Thanks for the heads up 😁

[@AntonSergienko]

Nice save last lap

[@PeagmaticDreamer1199]

I am new to iracing but using the track map overlay frawned uppon in the iracing community (or considered cheating somehow)?

[@davecamyt]

No it's just personal preference 👍

[@richdudecamaro]

What was with the cars flying in the air at the beginning of the race????

[@davidius74]

Poor connection to the race server and high ping time.

[@MasterDeroy]

I recently switched to iracing from Acc, but it's difficult to have a clean race in group D, as there is at least always 1 person that is a complete idiot. I got dq'd recently as several people drove into me on purpose. Hurts the rating so bad, and I cba, to record and send off complaints. I've learned that qualifying is very important to stay away from the backpack.

[@robcampbell6099]

Key to D license is drive around everyone else expecting that at any minute they may spin themselves or someone else. ie leave more than normal space to allow for the inevitable error. Remember it's D class that's only 1 license removed from rookie.

[@jedijon1228]

Nice drive again Dave, shame about the blockage at turn 1, I noticed that your FPS were back up over 100 again, have you changed anything as mine have dropped to about 60 - 65??? Have a great day buddy

[@davecamyt]

Made some changes and compromised some of the graphical extras. Not sure if you can see what's missing

[@jedijon1228]

@@davecamyt Thanks for the speedy response any chance of a heads up what you changed as I am having big frame drops too...

[@davecamyt]

@@jedijon1228 crowds and grandstands mainly. 👍

[@jedijon1228]

@@davecamyt Top Man many thanks. 🤙

[@Billybaka]

was a good race , unfortunate that guy got punted infront of you , but good races always have a bit of drama 🤨 🍺

[@Koopid]

How do you know he was a smurf? My account has a 3 at the end of the name and I only ever had one account

[@davecamyt]

Because he streams

[@arekdbz3]

I hate smurfs. I am around 5k irating but then sometimes I see some 2,5k-3,5k drivers and they are doing some alien times. And it is confusing and makes me doubt myself, but then I am beating them sometimes and I do have still some world records and I was 2nd in general IMSA season, so I can drive. But everytime I see something like that I feel sad

[@TheDoggy50]

I think that if you focus more on the slipstream you can get more pace and improve your positions

[@davecamyt]

Tell me more

[@TheDoggy50]

well, the slipstream from what I understood it works like DRS. So, if you focus on getting much slipstream you can get faster. (I am only 13 by the way, I don't know if I understood this correctly but if you use my recommendations, I think you can get faster)@@davecamyt 😁

[@justinkrizenesky]

I am a 'proud' smurf account owner, but not because I am trying to cheese the sim or anything. 90% of my iRating came from the Solstice. No idea why I was so good in that car, but I was. In all reality, I am a 3k-4k driver at best, so the alt helps me to have competitive, fair races without needing to race certain content, or practice a zillion hours before I race.

[@paddyredmond3039]

I see 'pot & kettle' here Dave. 🤨

[@inpayne]

My name on iracing shows as *3* but it’s my only account. Someone else has the same name as 1 or 2 I guess.

[@davidpetts1548]

Yeah that was really dirty driving from that guy

[@davidius74]

On the subject of smurf account, originally my account had 30 something after it as it is a common name. I immediately requested a name change to include my middle name so I wouldn't have a number after it. Doesn't mean I have 30 smurf accounts though, just depends on how common the name is. Now take John Smith for example, if you see Johnsmith2 in the race server, is this necessarily a smurf account. It is likely someone different and the real smurf account could be Johnsmith126 because of how common a name it is amongst the english speaking world. Having said all that, I have seen Laurent driving before with not only this account but also the other one and the driving style was similar and identical custom paint jobs though his main account was slightly more cautious but only just. He is quite an aggressive driver but usually quite clean. I think this incident was out of frustration as they made contact and he got a slow down and while he went across and slowed a little I don't think he realised the other car was slowing also to give the position back (you can see them both slowing slightly) I think it was more a case of misjudgement than a deliberate act, though he did move across more than he probably should have.

[@LJMRACING]

Not condoning his actions but I wonder if Laurent reacts like that because the guy on the right bumps into him, causes him to miss the corner and gives him a slow down which effectively ruined his race

[@davecamyt]

Maybe, but doesn't excuse it.

[@LJMRACING]

@@davecamyt Agreed

[@IOByrne]

i really hate the smurf accounts but i understand why they exist

[@matthewbarrett8859]

⁠@DaveCamYT Hey mate, do you have two accounts because you’re a business? It makes total sense for me if that is why. You need to protect yourself so you can make content at the end of the day. As long as you pay for both all us golden. The issue like you say isn’t Smurf accounts, it’s people driving differently on the second account - which having watched your videos is NOT something you are guilty of.

[@eje005]

"Took him out because it didn't go his way two wide through Eau Rougue." Actually, that was Raidillion.

[@davecamyt]

They were two wide through both but yes he came off worse in Raidillion 👍

[@willlive6845]

Going to be honest it has been hard trying to race lately, I’m between 2-3k fluctuations and I’m just not competitive at all anymore. I’m running 1-3 seconds off the pace of guys that are the same irating. I don’t necessarily believe it’s people doing this on purpose. It’s like CSGO where a lot of people play face it and when they hop into regular match making with maybe a few friends they are OP. There seems to be a lot of very fast drivers in this game that just don’t race official a lot and it really seems to be dragging down the experience for the average racer. Especially when sometimes over half of the field is not qualifying and then trying to Verstappen their way through the field.

[@doug_vickers]

Unlucky that the guy got turned at T1 and you couldn't avoid the contact but it happens unfortunately. Nice to see the FPS holding steady thoughout the race. Keep it up. 👍

[@rememberthefuture944]

Sim-racing needs Hardcore-mode.

[@jassonco]

Savvy old dawg!

[@ghastous]

back to triple screens again?

[@davecamyt]

Yes, performance issues fixed 👍

[@ghastous]

@@davecamyt good to hear as I run triples on a 3080ti with no issues

[@marijn17s]

You are driving on your smurf too....

[@davecamyt]

Did you listen to the intro?

[@marijn17s]

@@davecamyt Yes... 5k compared to 4k is still a considerably higher irating

[@davecamyt]

@@marijn17s only if irating bothers you. I'm not too fussed tbh

[@superandre96]

4k vs 5k it's not such a big difference, and most importantly you always get in top split, so it's not like he would be racing different people!

[@marijn17s]

@@superandre96 20% difference isn’t negligible

[@martin-hall-northern-soul]

Smurf accounts suck eggs!

[@studlydudly]

Where are the Smurfs?

[@BigMeanyVids]

I’m still confused why Dave has two accounts? My guess one was given to him free as all the content would be too much to go buying twice.

[@davecamyt]

Nope, both paid for 👍

[@mrj3217]

SMURF accounts should not be allowed. To register and race on iRacing it should be photo ID confirmation that you are who it says you are.

[@Dyslexiccarrot]

👍

[@sdickinson64]

I do agree that the action was uncalled for, however, I believe the incident to be misjudged. It was the other driver Alex that did not leave space. He should have gotten his line right and not bumped Laurent straight off the track to get the slow down. That or apologized right afterwards and gave the position to him due to it being a dirty move. It isn't advised to go through that corner 2 wide, but is possible and you even did it cleanly in the race with another driver. Unfortunately I bet they are both Smurf accounts and both to blame for this happening and unfortunately ruining other's races.

[@Greg-GT1]

What a shame a good race was ruined by that rubbish

[@TheBigAWC]

Always annoys me slightly when you complain about smurf accounts doing stupid things when you yourself are on your smurf.

[@BigFatCock0]

He says he doesn't drive any differently on his smurf. But then what's the point of it?

[@GRamerDim]

​@@BigFatCock0what do you mean "drive differently kn his smurf", I thought the whole point of smurf accounts in online games was to just play in lower ranks (iRating) and dominate each online match/race

[@davecamyt]

But I don't do stupid things

[@peadookie]

I feel like they should allow Smurf accounts, but enact penalties across them. I ran into a guy I reported that I _know_ had been banned and he just went and set up a different account. That was frustrating.

[@sprolyborn2554]

​​@@GRamerDimhes not really in lower lobbies. It's a 4k acct. His main is 5k. People do it the way he's done it because they want an account for official events. Farm the irating, make it look pretty, and only pull it out for special stuff. The 4k acct is the daily driver so to speak. The higher acct is the second acct so to speak. It's like the inverse of a Smurf.

[@pt4430]

Your colours are that of a surface. Ironic?

[@davecamyt]

Not sure what you mean

[@deanrobinson51]

I’ll be honest I don’t get why people have 2 accounts, including you, like I just don’t get it

[@davecamyt]

I created this one to do some content for iracing and just kept using it.

[@deanrobinson51]

@@davecamyt that’s fair, but why would you not just use the main account? I love the content, I watch all the videos, I just really don’t get it 😂 buying everything twice if nothing else it’s a fortune as it is 😂

[@marcospatrocinio6562]

Pena que não gosta de ganhar corrida

[@eddiesmith5559]

Why do you think it was a Smurf account? Do you know the person? Just because his name has a 2 on the end of it it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the same person (Smurf account). Just trying to understand

[@davecamyt]

Yes it's the same person. 👍

[@Dan80Racing]

I don't even understand why you have a smurf account unless you're an eSports driver

[@Dan80Racing]

@@Formaldehydex haven't I?

[@rafaeldts8980]

First 😅

[@Pezby69]

WooHoo , your parents must be so proud. You finally won something.

[@flinfaraday1821]

lol this game looks like it has infinite tc with no power cut... ;D