Snapdragon 8 Gen1 Review: A piece of sh*t with cherry on the top

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Geekerwan

Geekerwan

Күн бұрын

We did some test on Qualcomm's latest smartphone platform! Unfortunately it's not performing well in terms of power efficiency.
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VIDEO CHAPTERS
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00:00 Intro
00:51 Architecture
05:35 Testing - Geekbench
07:19 Testing - GFXBench 5.0
08:05 Testing - Stress Test
09:12 Testing - Mid-level load
09:56 Gaming - genshin impact
12:46 Conclusion

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@hoangd4132
@hoangd4132 2 жыл бұрын
we need more reviewers like this in english speaking world. 90% of them are just running geekbench and Asphalt 9 for 5 minutes and call the chip "amazing".
@calvindon2584
@calvindon2584 2 жыл бұрын
Preach. Actually chinese tech medias are doing so many tests and benchmarks to test a new chip. They usually review a phone like a laptop or desktop. They not only focus on daily uses but also on detailed things like thermal or push it to the limit and see what it capable of. we see those kinda of reviews a lot in China but not very often on KZbin or more specific on English speaking KZbinrs. Yeah, we definitely need more.
@SunnySzetoSz2000
@SunnySzetoSz2000 2 жыл бұрын
Geekerwan is the top tech media in china, they did this type of testing many years , recently they start this youtube channel.
@TheLemonyOrange
@TheLemonyOrange 2 жыл бұрын
And they start the video off in English for the first few sentences and then all of a sudden they are speaking Hindi or Indonesian or something else
@SunnySzetoSz2000
@SunnySzetoSz2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLemonyOrange Geekerwan target is to reach LTT level. Please don't compere Geekerwan to those you mentioning. LOL
@TheLemonyOrange
@TheLemonyOrange 2 жыл бұрын
@@SunnySzetoSz2000 I wasn't comparing to them, more of a contrast
@MaxTechOfficial
@MaxTechOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome! So glad you made an English account!
@basantatamang2249
@basantatamang2249 2 жыл бұрын
So what's the name of there Chinese Chanel?
@dinkarfowkar999
@dinkarfowkar999 2 жыл бұрын
heyy you iSheep! GET OUT OF ANDROID AND WINDOWS CHANNELS
@HoloScope
@HoloScope 2 жыл бұрын
That's makes a lot more sense. I was wondering why they're production quality was so good.
@TheBf666
@TheBf666 2 жыл бұрын
Hey max, I bet your bias towards apple will gobble this up. The phones that are out with SD 8 gen 1 now have poorly optimised software and are rushed to the market. Let's wait till more more companies release their phones with better software like samsung, and then criticise it if things don't change.
@HoloScope
@HoloScope 2 жыл бұрын
@@dinkarfowkar999 What is wrong with you? Just stop dude, it's not that serious.
@Tatar_Piano
@Tatar_Piano 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like a university lecture in terms of depth compared to american reviewers, i really liked it, thank you sir
@bobbyc1120
@bobbyc1120 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously. Anandtech is the only American reviewer with this type of stuff.
@darshanvaja3896
@darshanvaja3896 2 жыл бұрын
Truly said
@Anonymous-qb4vc
@Anonymous-qb4vc 2 жыл бұрын
Compare to Indian reviewers it feels like whole new realm of phone knowledge as most Indian creators just recite specs and call it a review..
@rimondas6729
@rimondas6729 Жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-qb4vc laughs in India More mega pixels= more dslr quality photo Indian tech scene is preety new and most of the smart phone buyers are teenagers (mostly) . Well of millennials buys iPhone. And they test( lol play) pubg because it's popular and people buys mobile phones solely because of it. The annoying part is that you can't search a KZbin video by country it's just annoying. I don't watch Indian tech youtubers but many people do with little to no tech knowledge
@benjoshd3386
@benjoshd3386 Жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-qb4vc Some Indian reviewers doesn't even have the device itself .They most likely just reading the phone specs from website lmao
@tsalapbeew
@tsalapbeew 2 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon this review due to YT recommendations and I can say that I'm happy that this was recommended. Compared to the usual phone reviews, e.g. Marques Brown Lee's channel, these types of reviews talking about the CPU itself will make me really think twice about buying a new phone. I don't care if the phone has all the latest and greatest features available if the CPU is not worth upgrading to compared to my current phone running SD 865. Keep on doing what you do best guys!
@Some-guy-on-the-internet
@Some-guy-on-the-internet Жыл бұрын
If you have an 865 then there's no need to upgrade anytime soon. That chip will keep performing great for years to come. I'm on an 855 (technically an 860 but it's the same chip essentially) and I don't intend to upgrade within at least the next 6 years. Ideally, I'm gonna try to keep my current phone well into the next decade. Throwing away a perfectly good phone just to have the latest chip is extremely wasteful.
@justindemoude520
@justindemoude520 Жыл бұрын
@@Some-guy-on-the-internet Unless your phone company simply turns your access off. Spint stopped giving my Note 5 access in 2020 after four years and I was forced to upgrade, choosing LG ThinQ with the 865. I may upgrade now to position myself for a better upgrade in a year or two, knowing a newer phone will rate a better trade-in then.
@Some-guy-on-the-internet
@Some-guy-on-the-internet Жыл бұрын
@@justindemoude520 I don't buy phones on contract with a carrier, so that's not a concern for me. I also use custom ROMs.
@razgriz1214
@razgriz1214 Жыл бұрын
Even my rusty 835 chipset still able to take on everyday tasks and gaming (still able to get genshin class game @highest setting 30fps), and I'm still using it till today. You with your 865 should not be worry about changing your phone anytime soon.
@sahibpreetsingh5514
@sahibpreetsingh5514 Жыл бұрын
That's because he reviews stuff based on average daily use, not technical benchmarks which most users except the hardcore gamers don't even care about. If your phone can still run your day to day stuff smoothly, there is no need to upgrade.
@lawrencechen7521
@lawrencechen7521 2 жыл бұрын
从没想到老哥英语也这么溜,没有一点违和感。三连。 Never ever wonder Yunfei got such fluent English. Bravo, man
@pp1942
@pp1942 2 жыл бұрын
He sounds like chinese version of Linus when speaking english lol
@rayw3329
@rayw3329 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he did a relatively good job in my opinion, but I think this is mainly due to his great work on copywriting (plus I've watched the Chinese version of this video beforehand). If im being honest, it feels weird if u don't turn on subtitles cuz he's not pronouncing everything properly especially when he gets excited. Anyways, not a bad start overall but if they wanted to be another version of linus, its necessary to get a fluent speaker in the first place. 倒是我也没想到他还做了个英文版本,就是吐字不清影响观感,得开字幕缓解
@zarent01
@zarent01 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you had so much details covered in the original Chinese review but I didn't expect there was an English version, cheers. In regards to the topic of the video, Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 is yet another letdown from Qualcomm, thinking that they'd realise their mistakes. It'd be more suitable to be put in a tablet rather than a phone. Now I'm hoping they can make a successor to Snapdragon 778G.
@petouser
@petouser 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 778G is perfectly fine and I don't think it needs a successor per se. There isn't much too improve. It's probably the best chip in terms of performance to money ratio, and that's basically what they aim for with that SoC. Rather there should be a strong premium chip based on TSMC's 6nm process. Basically a Snapdragon 870 but more modern and with TSMC's 6nm process. They should call it Snapdragon 875, and it could be Qualcomm's most efficient SoC.
@zarent01
@zarent01 2 жыл бұрын
@@petouser Sure it is fine, I'd say even Snapdragon 730 is more than enough but that shouldn't be an excuse for Qualcomm to remain stagnant. What I liked about the Snapdragon 778G is that the clock speeds are modest but still performs well and has the latest features along with being efficient on 5nm Samsung EUV. The weakest point would be its GPU perf. However, the existence of 870 is strange which is essentially a rebranded S865 aimed to compete with the likes of slightly revised Dimensity 1200 and Exynos 1080. Now that there are small leaks of upcoming midrange chipsets from Mediatek and Samsung tuned for the best nodes, Qualcomm will be playing catch up if they do not release an updated chipset. Snapdragon "875" on 6nm TSMC would be better but it wouldn't sound as good on paper as chipsets on 5nm even if those did worse plus S888 and 8G1 are on 5nm. But if they don't upgrade, it might not matter considering Qualcomm's marketing and market share. All of this is merely theorising anyways.
@theistnate
@theistnate 2 жыл бұрын
@@zarent01 870 is a overclocked 865+
@anmolagrawal5358
@anmolagrawal5358 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the link to his Chinese channel?
@xerogue
@xerogue 2 жыл бұрын
Mid range chips suck.
@keltonhuang9541
@keltonhuang9541 2 жыл бұрын
Applause from a Bilibili follower! Glad that you made another version of English for worldwide geeks. Chinese KZbinrs can also make great English IT videos. Come on you Geekerwan! Follow the channel guys.
@user-qq1ke4gz6l
@user-qq1ke4gz6l 2 жыл бұрын
我一直以为他们做英文内容也会大受欢迎的,大部分英文评测几乎是念参数,根本比不上中国的创作者有深度。
@Dan-co4zl
@Dan-co4zl 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you release more english reviews as your reviews are in depth and far better than what the bulk of most "youtubers" release as reviews
@mktxmilktea
@mktxmilktea 2 жыл бұрын
上部片想起頻道密碼之後 就可以開始陸續發片了
@DSDSDS1235
@DSDSDS1235 2 жыл бұрын
English version? Delicious. Now I can spam this to English based forums without translating half the video myself! Absolutely based.
@DSDSDS1235
@DSDSDS1235 2 жыл бұрын
Please do an english version of the D9K video too.
@basantatamang2249
@basantatamang2249 2 жыл бұрын
@@DSDSDS1235 lmao I had to look up for D9k and soon realise it's dimensity 9000.🤣
@andersgale9544
@andersgale9544 2 жыл бұрын
Gen 1, very fitting name. As the first generation of anything usually sucks.
@LightingX
@LightingX 2 жыл бұрын
Its gen 1 Its just a rebrand other than in 5 years time "snapdragon gen 6" instead of "snapdragon 80945"
@DeathStriker88
@DeathStriker88 2 жыл бұрын
@@LightingX they could've named it 899 or 899+ as they always did before
@LightingX
@LightingX 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeathStriker88 it would have just gotten bigger and bigger Its nothing but a rebrand The only meaningfull thing thing thus soc adds on top of the 888 is that it being Arm v9
@DeathStriker88
@DeathStriker88 2 жыл бұрын
@@LightingX hmmm so... Will it be good if I went with a 860 or 865 SoC phone? I am trying to upgrade from a Mediatek Helio P60 from 2018
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeathStriker88 It always depends on your demands. I have an 860 smartphone and i am pleased, sure you can't get 60fps and high details on the 2 or 3 most demanding titles like Genshin but in the end nether does 8 Gen 1 really does it anyway.
@theJesai
@theJesai 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Finally a reviewer who's actually info the nitty gritties I like, not reading out a spec sheet :D kudos!
@patana256
@patana256 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Really changed my mind on the latest android chipset.
@ChiekoGamers
@ChiekoGamers 2 жыл бұрын
I traded my Xiaomi Mi 11 (SD888) to an Asus ROG Phone 3 (SD865+). The Mi 11 heats up really fast, even while just casual use like browsing, to the point where it is aleady uncomfortable to touch. I already tried flashing a custom ROM and playing around the kernel settings, downclocking, still heats up fast. And now we have benchmarks proving that the latest Snapdragon chip suffers the same issue of the SD888. I am glad I chose to downgrade to SD865+. It is really a stable chip, especially on sustained performance.
@exe9790
@exe9790 2 жыл бұрын
why 888 heats up faster than my 855+
@sokool3994
@sokool3994 2 жыл бұрын
@@exe9790 I'm sure that's because of the power-hungry Cortex-X1 core and the Samsung process node (though, I'm sure that even if SD855 and SD865 was made on a Samsung node, it's still wouldn't have been this hot)
@notagain2856
@notagain2856 2 жыл бұрын
The Adreno 660 is maybe one of the reasons for the 888's heating issue. Its clock speed is much higher than Adreno 650 (587 vs 840MHz)
@exe9790
@exe9790 2 жыл бұрын
@@sokool3994 855 and 865 is TSMC btw
@sokool3994
@sokool3994 2 жыл бұрын
@@exe9790 Of course, I'm just saying that if the 855 and 865 was made with Samsung, it still won't be as hot as the 888.
@bahoaday
@bahoaday 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I like how you present the CPU architecture in a very easy to understand way. Thank you.
@Antagon666
@Antagon666 2 жыл бұрын
It's really awesome to see someone discuss the instruction set/ architecture for once. Not just how it performs in stupid mobile games.
@denmendoza9373
@denmendoza9373 2 жыл бұрын
bro you nailed it! We want more quality content for the upcoming dimensity 9000 and comparison with the crappy SD 8 gen 1!
@omerfarukerdal
@omerfarukerdal 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like 2022 is going to be a year full of 5000 mAh phones getting 3 hours of SoT...
@V4VideoGamer
@V4VideoGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Laughs in iPhone Pro Max 13
@carlocarnevali7790
@carlocarnevali7790 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like 2022 is the year I switch to iPhone
@elimalinsky7069
@elimalinsky7069 2 жыл бұрын
We'll see how the Dimensity 9000 and the Exynos 2200 perform. The thermal situation might just be Qualcomm's implementation of the new ARMv9 cores, and does not represent the architecture at all. It's like the Snapdragon 810 fiasco all over again, which was specifically an issue with Qualcomm's own design.
@pikaachoo3888
@pikaachoo3888 2 жыл бұрын
Its snapdragpn 810 all over again
@hijacked6663
@hijacked6663 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlocarnevali7790 mediatek still exists, the tensor chip from Google still exists, kirin still exists, anddd Samsung is gonna do something with amd apparently for exynos so even tho this chip is a disappointment, there still alot of options and things to get excited for.
@ravishjoshi9262
@ravishjoshi9262 2 жыл бұрын
This video encompasses all the reasons why I didn't bother waiting for next year's flagships. I don't really understand much of this very well but Qualcomm needs some kind of overhaul to pull their shit together. This is the 3rd or 4th chipset in a row that's just terrible but what I'm most surprised about is the fact that they managed to make one that's worse than the SD 888.
@clarencewong9254
@clarencewong9254 2 жыл бұрын
Think we just found Steve's GN counterpart for phone hardware review. Good stuff
@Jack_Krauzers
@Jack_Krauzers 2 жыл бұрын
I was an ex SD888 user and downgrade to SD870 and I'm glad I did and probably I'm gonna skip this one.. more heat, more battery life.. Qualcomm needs to turn back to TSMC
@amermeleitor
@amermeleitor 2 жыл бұрын
SD865 / 865+ / 870 are the best SD SOCs
@shikitono5643
@shikitono5643 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I'm using Blackshark 4 and it's a great cheap gaming phone with a decent camera.
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 2 жыл бұрын
I think they were kind of forced to use Samsung because TSMC was drowing in chip demants and would probably have a hard time fullfilling their wishes. Smartphones sell tons now our days and Qualcom will need very big quantities. TSMC is making sao many chips for so many companies right now that It will never manage to fullfill them. Evev as it is plenty of 2021 model smartphones are out of stock due to chip shortage.
@Enforcer901
@Enforcer901 2 жыл бұрын
@@shikitono5643 hey about bs4, how is joyui for you? I know it is just a reskinned miui, but does it have miui issue? Bloatwares, ads and stuff running in background? Idk why it's hard to find information on bs4.
@michaelweeks9273
@michaelweeks9273 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely I just got the Motorola that uses that chip it's fast
@saktibiswal6445
@saktibiswal6445 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation and tests!! Really loved the architecture behind the chip.
@Garrettdx1988
@Garrettdx1988 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your in depth SOC analysis. I've been looking for content like this for years.
@JVBenchmarks
@JVBenchmarks 2 жыл бұрын
Using Geekbench 5 to compare CPU it's not in depth... The GPU analysis was in depth though.. I guess we will have to wait for anandtech to get a in depth CPU analysis..
@Jeton6
@Jeton6 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this incisive analysis! you have helped me consider my smartphone purchasing trajectory for the next 12 months.
@prestongower7800
@prestongower7800 2 жыл бұрын
Same here I was going to update my note 20 ultra 5g to the note 22 ultra but I'm just going to keep my note 20 ultra 5g if I do upgrade I'll get the s21 ultra
@ryanramadhan7133
@ryanramadhan7133 2 жыл бұрын
Got it in my recommendation, watching the video and immediately subscribed. Technical aspect described heavily and so detail and elaborate us not to be trapped on marketing bullsh°t. Thank you and please keep on making this type of video!
@MIUISYSTEMUPDATES
@MIUISYSTEMUPDATES 2 жыл бұрын
Just Awesome review which is everyone wanted to see. Very detailed review, good job
@natsukirei2016
@natsukirei2016 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most detailed review i have ever seen on this specific chip with relevant information that makes everything make more sense
@jakodel3202
@jakodel3202 2 жыл бұрын
great review, I havent seen anything as good as this one in years
@depresseddude12
@depresseddude12 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I found this channel. It’s so much different than regular phone reviews. You really set the bar high for others. I cannot wait for you to review the Tensor chip, I’m sure that’s going to be a very interesting video. Subscribed!
@Pridetoons
@Pridetoons 8 ай бұрын
Agreed 👍
@gourabasis
@gourabasis 2 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness i found your channel, so much research and detailed info!
@Jnikumatti
@Jnikumatti 2 жыл бұрын
Very good and on point content bro! Keep doing these!
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very impressed with how far smartphone chips have come, especially the single threaded performance is great and soon better than my old desktop gaming PC in that regard 😆
@squidscrew1339
@squidscrew1339 2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays smartphone processor are faster than Many of the old pc processor both in single and multi thread.
@christiangonzalez6945
@christiangonzalez6945 2 жыл бұрын
@@squidscrew1339 if you are speaking about old pentium 3 555hertz or even a 1 gigahertz old computer I can see your point. But I have seen this comment with people thinking that their 2020 phone with 32 cores and 4gigahertz, it's somehow more powerful than their 2018 16 cores 2 gigahertz pc.
@squidscrew1339
@squidscrew1339 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiangonzalez6945 why u are going for 16 cores ? I think most of the guys will be using PC with 8 cores or less. Even i3 is still 4 cores. before some years ago even i3 was 2 cores and 4 threads. And if u look into laptop still both Intel (i3 11th) and amd have 2 core processor (ryzen 3). Btw there is no 32 cores smartphone processor..bt 8 cores flagship smartphone processors are better than 5 year old i3 2 cores & 4 thread processors(like i3 7100u ).
@iikon01
@iikon01 2 жыл бұрын
Yup the a15 bionic is better than the i3 gen 10 and that's impressive
@fawnkhawn
@fawnkhawn 2 жыл бұрын
BRO. That was a really good review. Hats off🔥🔥
@j.aadithya2593
@j.aadithya2593 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is amazing, he provides actual comparisons of chipsets rather than phones and over that he explains the power consumption and throttling effects in detail... these are things that you are actually supposed to know about a chipset rather than its peaks. Keep up the good work my g
@James.576
@James.576 2 жыл бұрын
I love your super detailed breakdown of the new chip. Definitely subbed ☺️
@Thyme53
@Thyme53 2 жыл бұрын
没想到云飞的口语还不错 👍
@nakmario
@nakmario 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Very thorough and engaging.
@Tennila2
@Tennila2 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review. Very good detail that is easy to understand. Hats off to you guys!!!
@drmbilals
@drmbilals 17 күн бұрын
amazing video we need more comprehensive mobile chip reviewers like you
@da14a49
@da14a49 2 жыл бұрын
You should be bigger for sure! The quality of just this video is 10x better than any other YTer reviewing mobile tech. Great job on explaining some of the more technical stuff to a generic audience as well!
@waryachi
@waryachi 2 жыл бұрын
Man !! Keep up the good content 🔥🔥
@user-yp9mj3vr1g
@user-yp9mj3vr1g 2 жыл бұрын
It feels so good to see you guys put things in English! 期待小米最新旗舰的评测
@krtaxl6963
@krtaxl6963 2 жыл бұрын
That video title really does hook in viewers! I would know, cause I got hooked.
@rgtube240
@rgtube240 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to see , win-11 gaming test on this new chip , and I knew you can do that for us 👍
@davidwu111111
@davidwu111111 2 жыл бұрын
這個英文口說能力太猛了
@SaransCortex
@SaransCortex 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, loved the amount of love and effort that you put into it, Subbed !!!
@Mehrdad995GTa
@Mehrdad995GTa 2 жыл бұрын
Very in-detail and informative, thanks a lot ❤️
@makwanasujal8957
@makwanasujal8957 2 жыл бұрын
No one has gone this in detail about cores!!!! Damn!! You nailed it 💥
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed!
@kharis6770
@kharis6770 2 жыл бұрын
This is so comprehensive, thank you man! 🙏
@Divergent19
@Divergent19 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review mate👍🙌. Keep it up. Subscribed.
@cwk18
@cwk18 2 жыл бұрын
这英文真猛,接近本地水平,加油!! LinusTechTips的老招牌就靠你来拆了!!
@kerian1140
@kerian1140 2 жыл бұрын
Hi🙂, i discovered your channel just now. It's been years now that I was convinced that the snapdragons were amazing with huge improvement every year... What a disappointment, how is that possible that your channel is the only one that talks about the reality beyond? Anyway, thanks for the videos and you got a new subscriber 👍🤝.
@drunkmaster7789
@drunkmaster7789 2 жыл бұрын
Man! You are the reviewer I was searching for all those years.. keep it up man!
@MultiFandom8isFate
@MultiFandom8isFate 2 жыл бұрын
Saw in my recommendations. Detailed observations. Liked and subscribed. ❤️
@Bazsy92
@Bazsy92 2 жыл бұрын
A correction: A510 cores are not always configured as twins. Eg. the Dimensity 9000 supposedly has 4 individual A510 cores.
@bobbyc1120
@bobbyc1120 2 жыл бұрын
11 watts! That's approaching the infamous Snapdragon 810, which topped out at 14 watts.
@tomgreen2058
@tomgreen2058 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed these hot takes, keep up the good work!
@Abd121
@Abd121 2 жыл бұрын
you just got one more enthuiastic sub! it's rare to see insightful analysis on phone hardware!
@Draculachan
@Draculachan 2 жыл бұрын
I like how genshin is like the top of the curve for newest processor
@da14a49
@da14a49 2 жыл бұрын
Genshin doesn't have the best optimisation so it can push the processor's performancd compared to something like Asphalt 9.
@fa14bi-78
@fa14bi-78 2 жыл бұрын
@@da14a49 Genshin's Optimisation is fairly good. Even My Snapdragon 765 can hold 29FPS average for 6 hours at maxed out settings. It's not the game being unoptimized, it's the Chip having the same power consumption as your average Notebook CPU, they don't even have a air cooler. My CPU is a 3W at max CPU, And my phone can get also rid from 3W of heat. However, the Snap 8 gen 1 peaks at fukin 15Watts. Throw that thing into a Notebook, but who's Idea was it to use that in a phone? Genshin isn't perfectly optimized, there are some minor grafic glitches, and some Lags after Teleport that can be blamed to it. Otherwise, how good Genshin runs is half depending on your CPU Performance, but also equally as much the power consumption of it. And 3W CPU really seems to be the limit. If you turn your Flagship phone in a low performance mode, you will see it actually running Genshin better long therm.
@HarunaKaiNi
@HarunaKaiNi 2 жыл бұрын
I just really liked that he went for a Liyue Harbor test instead of Windrise Most reviewers just avoid going to Liyue Harbour because it got lots of buildings and most chips perform poorly there
@somayough
@somayough 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, this confirms a lot of the earlier rumors about this chip. At this point, qualcomm should just pair that gpu with the 865's cpu and we'd have a chip with reasonably high specs all around. They released the 888 and 8 gen 1 cpus just have an unreasonable power draw and thermal management.
@shinobi_endure
@shinobi_endure 2 жыл бұрын
At this point, qualcomm should just pair that gpu with the 865's cpu and we'd have a chip with reasonably high specs all around. This won't help as he showed that in Genshin Impact, the GPU utilization didn't go above 50-60%. Meaning it is the CPU that is holding fps back. If you pair 865's CPU with 8G1's GPU the GPU utilization won't go above 35-40%. It is better to pair the 865 CPU with a GPU which is less powerful. If you do that.. you will get S865 CPU with S865 GPU. So.. yeah. Android flagships' chipsets haven't improved much since 2019 when it comes to performance at a reasonable power consumption.
@somayough
@somayough 2 жыл бұрын
@@shinobi_endure You may have a point. I based my better gpu + 865 cpu = good argument on the cpu/gpu utilization numbers from game turbo/armory crate. On the mi 10T pro /mi 11 / ROG 5, the utilization percentages show 60% cpu, 80-something gpu so I assumed the gpu is the cause for the bottleneck. I didn't fully account for the inaccuracy of built in monitoring apps. We are on the same page with qualcomm's extremely inefficient chips tho.
@michaelweeks9273
@michaelweeks9273 2 жыл бұрын
My new phone has that new 870 chip it's basically an overclocked 865 chip it's fast
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 2 жыл бұрын
It seems they are suffering with the Samsung cooperation. They got better SoCs when TSMC was making them. Notice how Exynos is also known for heating too much and throttling and this was actually the weakness of Exynos against Snapdragon when TSMC was producing Snapdragon.
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelweeks9273 Poco F3?
@TheAkdzyn
@TheAkdzyn 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Was super excited for snapdragon 8 gen 1 after the hype it got. Thanks for a clear and objective review. I'm off to binge more content from your channel.
@Jad042
@Jad042 2 жыл бұрын
Love the details you give about the arch
@SpykerSpeed
@SpykerSpeed 2 жыл бұрын
This is good English! I'm impressed. Also the review was quality. I think I'll keep my S21 Ultra for 1 more year.
@crazyproducts76
@crazyproducts76 4 ай бұрын
Wanna buy your S21 ultra. Let's deal! 😊
@Dottorilla
@Dottorilla 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna see how the S22 handles the Gen 1 with optimization, colling etc when it comes out as if it sucks I may either got team apple for first time or wait till S23
@kei-kumanai7672
@kei-kumanai7672 Жыл бұрын
dude ur videos r awesome plz make video about 8+ gen 1
@justindemoude520
@justindemoude520 Жыл бұрын
SUBSCRIBED! Great review...no BS, just the facts! TY
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 2 жыл бұрын
So I should keep my SD865 phone for a while? There would need to be some interesting camera upgrades or other stuff anyway I think.
@Valhalla.Studio
@Valhalla.Studio 2 жыл бұрын
We need more videos like this so that companies don't get lazy, Qualcomm SD8GEN1 and Samsungs Exynos 2200 had massive hype behind it before release but they both fairly lackluster so far, I hope they can improve things with software updates.
@Sharkie1717
@Sharkie1717 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing review. Great work!
@johnquedi01
@johnquedi01 2 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews. Keep it up!
@suntzu1409
@suntzu1409 2 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see Snapdragon 870 and Dimensity 1200 in the charts.
@moisterrific
@moisterrific 2 жыл бұрын
you should add a test beyond "nightmare": 30 degrees C, 500 nits, 5G, Genshin max settings 60fps
@herdysukma3966
@herdysukma3966 2 жыл бұрын
i like this kinda review.. keep going mate, you doing a great job
@amirulhusni2085
@amirulhusni2085 2 жыл бұрын
I just found out about your channel. it is so amazing. I wish I met you guys early
@CallOn84
@CallOn84 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the early Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 was made by Samsung, and they've always had thermal throttling issues in the past. Because Apple booked majority of TSMC's 5nm process, they didn't have much of a choice. Good news is that Snapdragon will slowly move to TSMC as more slots are available.
@regepod
@regepod 2 жыл бұрын
If next year's 8 gen2 is built with TSMC's 4nm process (like the Dimensity 9000 chip), maybe the power consumption can be improved, but it doesn't rule out that Qualcomm Snapdragon just doesn't want to do it well
@TechSpaceCowboy
@TechSpaceCowboy 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man Fellow tech KZbinr here. Just discovered your channel and well done. Love your content, keep it up!
@sathwikkuncham
@sathwikkuncham 2 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with the details you have brought here. You got a new subscriber :)
@deeactive1329
@deeactive1329 2 жыл бұрын
It's good to get actual indepth analysis. Just shows that geek bench tells very little about how it will actually perform. Sad thing is I' don't think snapdragon will ever catch up to apple. Unless they actually get competition from other Chip makers to force the innovation. Here's hoping the Mediatek chips gets in more phones
@user-qq1ke4gz6l
@user-qq1ke4gz6l 2 жыл бұрын
非常可惜HUAWEI的麒麟9000之后就没有了
@petouser
@petouser 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! I appreciate it! It's just me thinking but you probably used a prototype phone. So I guess there is a good chance that the phones sold are getting optimized better. The Xiaomi 12 is already released in China but I guess it will receive some software optimization. Anyway, it's funny how the Snapdragon 865/865+/870 is still the benchmark as the most efficient qualcomm phone. In my opinion, Qualcomm should make a flagship chip based on TSMC's 6nm process since that's the best what they can get from TSMC currently. I'm looking forward to how the MediaTek 9000 will compete.
@imwsss726
@imwsss726 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, the 8G1 on Mi12 is … a slightly better shit.
@rahulk2633
@rahulk2633 2 жыл бұрын
The Snapdragon 778g is also really good and stable.
@ChristianBrugger
@ChristianBrugger Жыл бұрын
Amazing review, please more of this!
@MapaMundi-YT
@MapaMundi-YT Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I like this kind of indepht analysis style. I wish you more success
@bigoof9170
@bigoof9170 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why i use an attachable cooling fan on my phone i never have any of these problems
@blitzer25blitz62
@blitzer25blitz62 2 жыл бұрын
the last good snapdragon was the 870. or basically 865+. 888 series repeating the dreaded history of 810
@danieltosic6213
@danieltosic6213 Жыл бұрын
But for perfomanse fps better is 888
@LhawangPoSherpa
@LhawangPoSherpa Ай бұрын
​@@danieltosic6213for like 2 minutes.
@LTEAndroid
@LTEAndroid 2 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing please make more!
@notificationguys5128
@notificationguys5128 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man I just stumbled upon this video by KZbin algorithm But after seeing your video.. I didn't even skip a beat, 3 minutes in and got some useful information I didn't know before Instant subscribe
@Webpageisnotavailable
@Webpageisnotavailable 2 жыл бұрын
Feels so good I still didn't change my SD865 phone
@crovian1985
@crovian1985 2 жыл бұрын
The snapdragon 865 was an excellent chip
@shamhosein770
@shamhosein770 2 жыл бұрын
Best break down on the 8 gen 1. What a disappointment. Waiting for a dimensity 9000 one and if that's not up to standard then I guess next year might be better. Or just go for a new iPhone with the new A16 towards the end of the year. Still stuck on a snapdragon 865 device cause of these shitty 888 and 8 gen 1 chips.
@kensabotage2492
@kensabotage2492 2 жыл бұрын
nice review! kudos to you sir
@lola2lola321
@lola2lola321 2 жыл бұрын
We need a video like this on the Tensor chip!
@rishadanwar8430
@rishadanwar8430 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a comparison video Between snapdragon 8 gen 1 vs Dimensity 9000 which chip better overall..
@Khiengh_Then
@Khiengh_Then 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6fIpGSDaaacY6s If u understand Chinese. Or there may be an English version in several days as well.
@HasimFN
@HasimFN 2 жыл бұрын
Dimensity better
@umu8934
@umu8934 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping the Nuvia acquisition become fruitful and they can bring Snapdragon Nuvia level to combat Apples M1 and A15 bionic plus Mediatek Dimensity series....
@theistnate
@theistnate 2 жыл бұрын
They don't need to combat M1. That's a desktop chip
@gsc-lol-islem6494
@gsc-lol-islem6494 2 жыл бұрын
@@theistnate but i have the M1 on my iPad already.
@sorryi6685
@sorryi6685 2 жыл бұрын
Nvidia acquisition is not good. It will lead to less competition
@GiraffeApocalypse
@GiraffeApocalypse 2 жыл бұрын
I loved how simple this video is and easy to understand
@leudysbarrenasperez1305
@leudysbarrenasperez1305 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Channel, I loved it, thank you
@sumit180288
@sumit180288 2 жыл бұрын
Better to go for mid performance chips like sd 778
@icecraft6730
@icecraft6730 2 жыл бұрын
Make video with the dimensity 9000
@jimi2008kumar
@jimi2008kumar Жыл бұрын
Now this is the channel which gives information with knowledge 👍👍 . . Different from all thoose same type of tech channel running around...who are just there to endorse product. . U have done a good job here 👍
@kapilbusawah7169
@kapilbusawah7169 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely subscribed!
@VhsssTv
@VhsssTv 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm I want to see how well Samsung manages to optimise the chip first. Given it's brand new in so many ways it might just be too difficult for other company's to utilise properly. Saw the Sam thing last year with the 888 where the performance of the chip was SIGNIFICANTLY better on phones launched towards the end of last year. If that's the case then I guess I'm expecting 1300 single core & 3900 multi core
@imwsss726
@imwsss726 2 жыл бұрын
No. It’s just slightly better thermos control on the later phones… For example Galaxy S21 Ultra has one of the worst thermos design among all SD 888 Phones, with extremely conservative software strategy and very good screen refresh rate management, so at least the basic experience is smooth and customers won’t feel that hot/power-hungry. But the price is for example the significant worse gaming frame rate, and overall power efficiency is still worse than SD865/870 phones, software management can’t change it.
@feratube
@feratube 2 жыл бұрын
Samsung will ruin it 😅
@ratlingzombie8705
@ratlingzombie8705 2 жыл бұрын
As a european I'm more exited for the exynos 2200 anyways, with its AMD GPU and presumably even higher clockspeeds than snapdragon although power efficiency was never good on exynos chips. But lets see... maybe they did some great work
@Young_Dab
@Young_Dab 2 жыл бұрын
Since when did cell phone manufacturers have to cater to the incel cult 🤔 It's a cellphone!!! Not a gaming device!!! What the hell is all this complaining about??
@ravishjoshi9262
@ravishjoshi9262 2 жыл бұрын
@@Young_Dab Looks like those 'incels' are out-purchasing gigachads like yourself seeing as how the market dances at their fingertips. Why don't you guys try to be less poor and buy more so you can influence decisions that manufacturers make?
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