The History Of Picross (Nonograms)

[@nuclear_pigeons8762]

Came for deep rock, stayed for griddlers hate.

[@Solysis5]

griddle me this... batman

[@DesperateDirt]

I feel like this proves you can talk about anything and make it entertaining.

[@nopeishope9988]

I blame you sniss, my addiction to picross is all your fault.

[@cakes1831]

He got me addicted to it just by playing it once in stream

[@nopeishope9988]

@@cakes1831 yup same

[@sonynicolson6983]

How this channel doesn't have all the KZbin users as subscribers by now. Discovering you on this site was one of the coolest things that happened to me this year

[@daizbid]

Came for the Deep Rock, stayed for the picross

[@tripledyou9580]

My friend posted this video in a discord server we share and I immediately started ranting about picross. Thank you for this.

[@lit7117]

this is just an excuse to get mathematicians to make pixel art

[@teze2284]

Bro did you just reduce this puzzle's whole history to a bunch of nintendo games? I cant be mad tho cause you are clearly passionate about this puzzle (which I totally agree on) and this is by far the most love this game got on youtube

[@bobbymiller7242]

Its hard to explain, but the design of mario piccross is so unbelievably satisfying. No other piccross game i have played has been more so.

[@artvandelay2873]

I had never heard of Picross until we got Mario's Super Picross on Switch Online last year. Now I'm obsessed with these puzzles. I've played through all of the SFC game and Picross S on Switch, and I'm working on Picross DS now.

[@thantus9315]

Just found this video, nearly 3 years after upload, yet i still find myself disappointed that Nonograms Katana was not mentioned at any point in the video. That game is pretty insane

[@zulianfr]

I've discover Picross with Pokemon Picross and while I understand the criticism it is still a fabulous game with multiples modes and a fun pokemon abilities gimmick Thanks for your video I've always wonder where the heck does Picross comes from I love theses puzzles and it seems like litteraly nobody know about it This, with that editing and all, sould definitively have more than a thousand views

[@Memtheturtle]

Just a note about Pokémon Picross on 3DS. The game caps you out after you spend $30 and lets you have infinite of the currency, or you can use a modded 3ds to get the currency, so it is still playable despite the awful free to play model

[@cultist5769]

Fun fact: In Russia this puzzle just called "japan crossword" :D

[@bland9876]

But I hate about the name is that I don't like word puzzles and here we are using a logic puzzle and calling it a word puzzle no thank you. Funny enough my grandma and my mom are super into word puzzles. Also there are some games that are very similar to each other like Quiddler and Phase 10 yet one is word based and the other is not

[@pandalionful]

This was so interesting! If you haven’t seen it, I also recommend Piczle Cross Adventure on the Switch, it’s kinda like open world exploration with picross! It’s very cute.

[@johnesco]

Thank you for making this. I somehow started with Picross 3D on the DS then later got into the apps and eventually getting a copy of Mario's Picross on Game boy. It's hard to convey how much I enjoy nonograms and the Picross series.

[@Qauludols]

That new intro is killin'

[@McLort]

Dude your videos are super entertaining and well researched. Keep em coming! Rock and Stone!

[@electrum5579]

Oh god I remember the 2015 Pokemon Picross. I remembered it fondly when you brought it up, I was like "I remember that, that was fun. Good times" and then when you elaborated I remembered the FUCKING ENERGY METER and the GODDAMN PICRITES. Thanks for the video, I enjoy picross and was disappointed that I couldn't find any puzzles when I did a 4-second search. Will check some of these oot Also I pronounce it pie-cross. I'm so confused how picross became a thing pie-cross sounds so much better to me

[@bland9876]

Picture + crossword Also he said "me cross" no it's "my cross" micro + Picross

[@tonyzambone762]

So glad I found you from DRG! Your videos fantastic, I love your editing style. Can't wait to see you grow!

[@bland9876]

The Griddler sounds like a bad guy from Batman.

[@bland9876]

There is now a Wario Ware style Picross game on the Switch and unless im wrong it's made by Jupiter themselves.

[@clowntainment]

This video got me addicted to picross and i've been happily addicted for 2 years now. Thank you.

[@TangibleTravis]

This is an excellent video! You did a great job blending education and entertainment for such an obscure genre of video game I’ve seen around for years but have only just decided to try with Picross S7.

[@digiorniboy]

As an avid Picross fan and a ZEALOUS LOVER of Picross 3D and 3D Round 2, phenomenal phenomenal video!!! I absolutely loved every second of it!! Part of that is definitely the bias of hearing someone talk this in-depth about a somewhat niche special interest of mine, but even putting that aside, the video was really well made!! Looking forward to seeing more stuff from you!!

[@popixel]

My first experience with Picross was on the Gameboy with Mario Picross.

[@MiraiND]

This is a puzzle game that I have been a fan of since I started Mario’s Super Picross on the Switch and eventually got that magical 300 on my save file. Small correction about that game: the NSO release bringing the game to the west only applies to North America. Europe and Australia got the game on all three Virtual Consoles prior (Wii, Wii U, and New 3DS). I suspect the reason Jupiter pumped out so many Picross games on the 3DS and Switch eShops is due to the lack of replayability in nonograms. Once you solve a puzzle, the solution is the same every single time you go back to it, and the only incentive to do so is to clear it in a faster time. Essentially, a long time would have to pass for the player to forget the puzzles for the experience to be somewhat fresh again. There actually are two free Picross browser games that solve this by featuring randomly generated puzzles. The obvious downside is that the vast majority of solutions are incoherent dots instead of actual pictures, but almost no two puzzles are the same. It’s awesome that even a series as overlooked as Picross can have a history video like this. The only pitfall here is that I discovered that someone actually thought it was a good idea to call these griddlers. Like, what the hell?

[@pixelbit5]

Hey. As someone who plays a decent number of these, thank you.

[@jonothanrennert3098]

For mobile, I like Nonograms katana. It has a bunch of customization, a ton of levels, and a cool aesthetic

[@matthewl8647]

i hope and pray that the algorithm helps your channel out. your videos are top notch buddy

[@mrhenderson9261]

update 35 lookin hype😳

[@ultra1259]

I love nonograms, sitting and waiting in any place while playing it, and not in a shitty social app it's a relief in todays days.

[@Enderspearl184]

Pokémon picross is good if you hack ur save to make it think you spent the max amount of money on it

[@AkiraWilson]

awesome video dude, I love picross more than anything. Looking forward to checking out your other stuff

[@TheDario64]

Thank you for this video. Picross 3D is one of my all-time favorite DS games and puzzle games period, was really cool seeing at least 1 other person on the planet is familiar with that game!

[@sarahk6353]

There's an alternate universe where the Zelda one is called Twilight Picross and that's one I want to live in

[@NATE-op9tq]

such a chill video good work

[@timothyshoup5044]

I feel you were too harsh on the Switch Picross S for its aesthetics. The puzzles themselves are really well made and that's what really matters in the end.

[@kommstein5692]

2:46 also known as WAP (Window Art Puzzles)

[@kazy8029]

I got into picross with Super Mario Picross on the switch and got addicted to it without knowing anything about it or understanding Japanese during the early months of the pandemic. It really helped keep me sane.

[@MediaMunkee]

I'm not sure why the algorithm brought me here today, but this video reminded me that the Picross NP puzzle sets and Logic Pro arcade games exist, and introduced me to the Dark Souls of Color Picross (which _can_ be figured out, it's just a bastard), and the Final Fantasy one (which it turns out has a translation patch; which I would heartily recommend were it not for the process of patching it). Solid stuff. FWIW, Pokemon Picross at least had the saving grace of being subject to Nintendo's usual purchase cap on their freemium titles; if you spend about the full sticker price of a retail 3DS game, you're locked out of spending any more, and you can just refill your energy for free, "buy" any remaining items for free, etc. Between that and getting to unlock Pokemon and use special moves to help solve the puzzles, it was actually kinda novel, and the puzzles were solid. And it was also the easiest vector with which to jailbreak a 3DS! Logic Pro (arcade) and Logic Pro Adventure (PSX) are also pretty solid and have the unique concept of an adaptive timer; solving tiles refills it, so long pauses are your biggest threat. Logic Pro 2, though, my GOD I've never seen a more infuriating approach to these games. Enemies spawn on the field at an utterly merciless pace and will run around randomly sweeping up your X'd tiles or detonating and clearing your marked tiles. You can't spare the time to chase after them, but you also can't _not_ spare the time because they erase your progress faster than you can undo the damage! This could possibly have worked as a DS adaptation because of the efficiency of using the stylus, but when you're having to maneuver the cursor around to chase after stuff it's an absolute nightmare. edit: Nevermind, the original Logic Pro is also some advanced garbage for having completely unsolvable puzzles that force you to guess starting with level 5. I guess that's their version of Arcade Difficulty.

[@Source_of_Sanctuary]

Hopefully this video doesn't get completely ignored by the drg subs

[@bergermeistermeisterburger]

Awesome topic for a video essay. Niche enough to be interesting but broad enough that most people know what it is but haven’t played themselves, like me.

[@Scubacathat]

My friend got me into picross recently, so I was excited to see you do a video on their history

[@PhilipLL]

Still rock and stone for the outro. I like it rock and stone B)

[@biblequotesdaily6618]

griddlers sounds like a breakfast menu item

[@sniss]

you are 100% correct Bible Quotes Daily

[@ruxcooking]

I only discovered picross on the DS so this video is a retrogamong gold mine for me

[@muffincatgames]

I will only refer to these as Griddlers from now on

[@sniss]

oh no. what have i done

[@Wince_Media]

Thank you for making the exact video I wanted to figure out right now. I love picross so much!

[@nngnnadas]

I did play all of picross DS (it's strong stuff) and I totally blanked when you mentioned there were minigames.

[@Encorous]

Literally what. I hit my DGR craze and find your channel. Go on a DGR break. Get on a picross craze. Click on a single picross video. Your channel. Get out of my head.

[@Cam_K9]

I wasn't expecting downloading Pokemon picross to mod my 3ds to lead to a new obsession

[@honeyhiveunderscore]

we love to see a sniss video, especially one thats about picross

[@N8-Squared]

21:50 Pokemon Picross got me into the series but I agree that it seems like toxic waste. I will say that the fact that you could build a party and use abilities in the picross game itself is really damn cool.

[@lampdevil]

A great overview of things, thank you for this video! I will say that your assessment of the Picross S series (and in general Jupiter's aesthetic approach to the games) is not at all wrong, but it is actually something that I LIKE about them. They've got a polish to them that shines amidst a lot of crappy mobile shovelware nonogram games I've experienced. (Love Picross S5's citypop vibes, too, woo.) I devour picross puzzles like potato chips and the ones in the Jupiter-made games have a feel to them that's a nice balance of challenging and fair, and the art style of the puzzle results is classy and clear. Meanwhile I've played cheap games that gave me five damn mugs in a row, but one was a stein and one was "beer" and one was "coffee" and one was "tea". Picross S and its variants and precursors are the *baseline* for good nonogramming, as far as I'm concerned.

[@wickn4849]

just got this video recommended to me today, love seeing the series (or genre?) get the recognition it deserves! one note about pokemon picross; it's so good, if you just hack your save first. i used an online save editor with my modded 3ds to get infinite currency so i could buy infinite energy. when you do that, the game actually has a super interesting powerup mechanic with the pokemons that you equip to your "party". can definitely recommend it, and basically all other 3ds picross games. the 3ds is the perfect picross machine, and i love it dearly. also, super mario picross on the snes is the best picross game ever, i will not debate this.

[@cavifax]

They ruined Falcross with an energy meter too and lots of ads, so sad.

[@sniss]

nOoooo

[@twobadour]

Had his pop up in my recommended. Glad to see some appreciation for my favorite puzzles! I got into the series thanks to the Twilight Princess one, and since then I’ve played S Series 1, Pokémon Picross, and 3D Round 2, with S Series 1 being my most played out of the bunch. Definitely will give series 3 and onwards a shot - color picross sounds fun!

[@angle6895]

There's a game called Across-Stitch which combines this premise with cross-stitching!

[@sweir7720]

I searched up Picross Origins looking for the jerma video, and now I cant take my eyes off this instead

[@baging1]

12:12 real missed opportunity to say the cream of the picrop

[@nickramsey9362]

I used to do Paint by Numbers in Games magazine in the late 90s. Loved it then, love it now!

[@decoy3540]

New viewer here (I think?) the Rock N Stone thrown in at the end really caught me off guard as I didn't know that you even made Deep Rock content

[@maziar_d]

great video 👍enjoyed the reggie reference in the end

[@MACIEJ454545]

Monogram Katana players are shook to their bones, there are dozens of us! Dozens!

[@shybandit521]

Pokemon Picross is my introduction to Picross lmao, never finished it because I lost my 3DS, but Picross has been one of my favorite puzzles ever since.

[@DonjiPicudo]

I'm so happy to have found this channel, this my ish 😁

[@Mittens_McG]

I had never heard of this game before. I thought I would try it out. Its been hours. I can't stop. Send help.

[@cakes1831]

Finally not busy to watch this master piece

[@brotherscarecrow]

Recently started Picross e on a whim and was curious about the history of these games, glad i stopped to research because Picross DS looks great. Gonna jump straight into that one

[@friedtomato7067]

All I know is jerma is addicted to this

[@VictorTheVictini]

My first interaction with Picross was with Scott the Woz- In videos where he made jokes mentioning Picross DS. I got the game for myself as a joke of some kind (I do that-) but I actually kind of like the game when I tried it. Fast forward a year now I have all 8 Picross e games released in North America plus Sanrio Picross- (I made myself a mission to complete all of them, all 2.1k puzzles.)

[@lostandlikingit]

I learned things today, thanks.

[@pelaajacreeper]

19:30 ඞ AMONG US ඞ

[@Silver-Rexy]

I've lost sleep over picross3D, thank you for enabling me further Mr. Niss

[@UnknownFlyingPancake]

I actually got into the series because of the 3DS' Pokemon Picross. There was an option to just buy the game outright at least.

[@primeflyhigh2648]

Oh my god this video was so good

[@sollysion]

Man, Picross 3D is such a good game

[@vealchop2490]

I thought I was the only one who enjoyed picross this much... I've had Logic Pic on my phone for probably 5 years and I play it for at least 30 minutes a day, sometimes longer. Its one of the only things I use to put my mind in zen mode

[@Peztllence]

How did you make me unwittingly watch a 30 minute video about picross, something I only looked up upon seeing the announcement community post?

[@cheychc]

great video! thanks for the rundown :D

[@davidconde2100]

i enjoyed the video, thanks for taking your time researching abut this, my first picross game i played, was the picross 3d on the 3ds, and i loved it

[@nerro984]

Game Maker's Toolkits sent me here

[@magnetic9089]

I love the style of your videosman

[@matt25675]

I have never heard of the satellaview, that’s fascinating. It was basically the forerunner of the E-shop

[@DodgeThatAttack]

12:12 I guess you could say... cream of the picrops :>

[@Arkantolas]

god i love picross so much

[@SnakebitSTI]

26:50 It's a baby carriage! ... allegedly. I don't see it, to be honest, but that's what the label says. 26:55 Stilts. It actually does look like stilts, but wow that is underwhelming. One recommendation I'd add is "Illust Logic DS + Colorful Logic". It's got regular, color, and mosaic modes.

[@Wubbman18]

This was a great watch. I bought s4 to get into it and ive had a blasr

[@sniss]

glad to hear that :)

[@briochebananabread]

i only ever played the demo of pictoss 3d and pokemon picross and im still only on area 5 because i never bought some of them and im not super great at them but ive been playing mario picross on the switch and i really like BGM 1 for Wario its one of my favorite songs :)

[@FordFocus-fi9om]

!fill a5

[@sniss]

ford focus

[@knobbly]

I'm here because of Jerma playing Pickman 2 and the youtube algorithm suggesting this video

[@Mumble8988]

I just recently started getting into picross puzzles. I went from finding it boring to finding it kind of addicting haha.

[@rodgermccallister1606]

You should check out the new Zachtronics game called Last Call BBS. It's a puzzle game collection, and the one called Dungeons and Diagrams is inspired by picross. As a fan of picross, it changes the formula just enough to be really refreshing.

[@SpacedogD]

PicrossDS got me into picross and i love it

[@TamsmitSam]

Wonderful video, deserves way more views 👏

[@R2-T4two]

I feel like the perfect picross game for a nintendo console would instead of having sequels having DLC packs and a online sharing feature so everything is in one game instead of having like 15 sequels on the same console.

[@SuperFruitbat99]

When you said "cream of the picross crop" you missed out on a chance to say picrop

[@mr.pyroland4144]

You forgot that was the year of the bite of ‘87

[@azurecorviknight4189]

My Sonic project is pretty much sonic Xtreme's reboot, the special stage is Picross, with the most relaxing special stage music.